►
From YouTube: Hyperledger In Depth: Alastria– Understanding their mission to promote the digital economy
Description
Alastria is a non-profit association that promotes the digital economy through the development of decentralised ledger technologies/Blockchain. During this session, you will get an overview of Alastria, learn about the work the Alastria consortium has been doing since 2018, the benefits of using the Alastria networks, learn about production use cases and see how you can get involved. You will also get an overview of their platform agnostic approach, and specifically Network-B (Hyperledger Besu released Feb 2020) and Network-H (Hyperledger Fabric release March 2019) that is available to Alastria members.
Brian Behlendorf, Hyperledger Executive Director will moderate the Q&A session-
Download slide: https://www.hyperledger.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/Alastria_Hyperledger-_Member_Webinar_Series-May5_2021.pdf
----
Hyperledger – Open Source Blockchain Technologies
Hyperledger is an open source community focused on developing a suite of stable frameworks, tools and libraries for enterprise-grade blockchain deployments.
It serves as a neutral home for various distributed ledger frameworks including Hyperledger Besu, Fabric, Sawtooth, Indy, as well as tools like Hyperledger Avalon, Cactus and libraries like Hyperledger Aries, Ursa. Learn more about Hyperledger projects: https://www.hyperledger.org/use
Case Studies: https://www.hyperledger.org/learn/case-studies
Training & Certification: https://www.hyperledger.org/learn/training
Tutorials: https://www.hyperledger.org/use/tutorials
Webinars: https://www.hyperledger.org/learn/webinars
Events: https://www.hyperledger.org/events
Vendor Directory: https://www.hyperledger.org/use/vendor-directory
Subscribe to the Hyperledger Newsletter: https://www.hyperledger.org/newsletter
Follow-us on Twitter @Hyperledger
Learn about Hyperledger Membership: https://www.hyperledger.org/about/join
#Hyperledger #Blockchain
A
All
right,
let's
go
ahead
and
get
started.
We
have
attendees,
I'm
gonna
go.
My
name
is
daniela
barbossa.
I
am
the
vice
president
of
worldwide
alliances
here
at
hyperledger,
so
welcome
everyone
to
the
hyperledger
in
depth
and
hour
with
our
members
today,
we'll
be
speaking
with
alastria,
who
is
one
of
our
new
hyperledger
associate
members
on
understanding
their
mission
to
promote
the
digital
economy
and
how
the
hyperledger
is
involved
and
how
you
can
be
involved
as
well.
A
I'm
in
san
francisco,
so
welcome
everyone
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started
and
let's
do
just
some
little
housekeeping.
Like
all
hyper
ledger
events
that
we
have,
we
do
have
an
anti-trust
policy.
So
all
our
meetings,
you
know,
involve
participation
by
industry
competitors.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we
conduct
all
activities
in
accordance
with
the
applicable
anti-trust
and
competition
laws.
Please
do
read
the
full
policy
on
our
website.
A
If
you
have
any
questions.
Do
let
us
know
please
note
that
this
is
being
recorded,
so
this
video
is
being
recorded
and
the
webinar
recording
will
be
available
in
our
webinar
library
and
there's
a
lot
of
other
great
content
there
as
well.
After
the
session,
we
will
also
provide
these
slides
to
be
downloaded
so
that
you
can
have
access
to
that
once
again.
If
you
have
any
questions,
just
let
us
know
in
the
chat,
so
these
hyperledger
in-depth
are
really
ways
for
our
communities
to
learn
what
hyperledger
is
working
on.
A
What
our
members
in
our
community
is
working
on,
but
also
to
share
the
work
that
you're
doing
to
ask
questions
so,
as
I
said,
we'll
have
some
q
a
time
and
we
look
forward
to
it.
If
you
are
new
to
zoom
there's
a
couple
features
that
you
can
use.
You
can
use
the
raised
hand
feature
and
to
get
promoted
to
speak.
You
can
also
use
the
q
a
feature
in
the
webinar
to
ask
questions
or
the
chat,
and
I
will
be
monitoring
all
three
of
those
and
making
sure
that
your
questions
get
answered.
A
B
Okay,
thank
you.
You
should
be
looking
at
my
screen
right
now
correct
okay,
so
let
me
minimize
everything
and
then
put
the
cursor
here
just
to
help
me.
Okay,
so
thank
you
everybody
good
morning,
good
evening,
good
night
or
whatever
is
applicable
in
your
time
zone
for
giving
me
the
opportunity
to
explain
what
we
are
doing
in
austria.
B
The
definition
of
public
data
network
implies
that
any
natural
or
judicial
person,
without
any
discrimination
or
arbitrary
rules,
can
contract
access
to
the
network
and
use
it
for
any
use
case
that
they
want.
This
is
not
the
current
definition
that
was
done
at
the
at
that
time:
okay,
public
data
network,
but
which
were
the
countries
pioneering
the
public
data
networks
in
the
world.
Well,
spain
deployed
in
1972
the
first
public
data
network
in
the
world
six
years
before
france,
nine
before
germany,
and
even
three
before
the
us.
B
Incredibly,
that
was
done
in
an
environment
where
the
spanish
investment
level
in
research
and
development
was
five
to
ten
times
lower
than
the
other
countries
mentioned
currently,
and
despite
many
many
problems
in
spain,
the
public
administration
of
spain
is
one
of
the
most
digitalized
in
europe.
According
to
some
official
rankings
and
the
penetration
of
fiber
to
the
home,
stt8
is
one
of
the
highest
in
europe.
B
This
may
be
the
reason
why
spain
did
it
again.
Spain
has
been
the
first
to
implement
a
general
purpose:
blockchain
network,
with
the
so-called
public
permission
model,
trying
to
get
the
best
of
two
worlds:
first,
a
decentralized
governance
model
ensuring
that
anybody
can
participate,
and
second,
a
permissioning
system
like
in
the
private
consortiums
of
bank
banks,
energy
companies,
energy
companies
or
internet
was
dedicated
to
specific
use
cases
like
food
traceability
or
any
other
techniques.
B
This
is
what
we
call
the
manifesto
of
public
permission:
blockchain
networks.
This
is
the
idea-
it's
almost
impossible
to
do
this
right
now
with
the
current
technology
and
the
current
processes.
But
this
is
aspirational
the
target
first,
anyone
can
participate
and
use
it,
and
there
are
no
artificial
barriers
of
entry
or
arbitrary
exclusivity.
B
There
is
no
anonymity
for
businesses
and
other
juridical
persons-
privacy,
yes,
anonymity,
no
like
in
the
real
economy
and
in
the
real
society,
at
least
when
we
are
talking
about-
and
probably
I
had
to
say
that
most
of
the
things
that
I
share
based
on
the
values
of
the
european
region,
the
european
union
and
any
other
countries
or
regions
in
the
world
which
assume
the
same
values.
Okay,
then
also
protection
of
the
citizen
and
the
consumer
is
essential
and
embedded
into
the
system,
not
something
after
the
fact.
B
The
model
is
in
reality
like
a
common
pool
resource
which
is
not
controlled
either
by
the
state
or
by
the
invisible
hand
of
the
market.
I
said
again,
we
don't
want
this
to
be
controlled
by
one
state
or
by
the
invisible
hand
of
the
market
and
common
pool
resources
have
existed
for
centuries,
but
they
have
been
normally
reduced
to
the
management
of
natural
resources
and
in
a
limited
geographical
scale.
B
For
the
first
time,
the
blockchain
can
be
considered
as
a
technosocial
scarce
or
limited
resource,
where
the
principles
of
common
pool
resources
can
be
applied
very
efficiently
by
encoding
most
of
the
rules
into
the
blockchain
infrastructure
that
was
impossible
under
until
until
the
blockchain.
Of
course,
speculation
should
be
taken
as
far
away
as
possible
from
this
infrastructure.
B
If
we
let
the
traditional
market
rules
or
the
new
game
theoretic
rules
to
govern
a
limited
resource,
we
already
know
what
happens
with
prices
and
inclusivity
and
if
putting
together
the
worst
permissioned
and
decentralized
seems
strange
to
you
think
twice.
There
is
not
real
decentralization
in
an
anonymous
network.
B
Think
about
the
internet,
backbone
about
the
real
economy,
almost
anything
in
the
real
economy,
about
any
essential
public
service
like
public
health,
public
education
or
the
public
roads
of
a
country.
They
are
all
permission
because
if
there
is
a
common
good
which
is
not
infinite
is
limited
and
you
needed
to
be
inclusive,
fair,
neutral
and
not
subject
to
strength,
extreme
speculation
and
dominated
by
the
rich
and
powerful.
Then
you
needed
to
be
permissioned,
but
both
a
good
governance
model,
a
decentralized
governance
model
and
permission.
B
That's
the
challenge
and
that's
the
challenge
that
in
alaska
we
started
three
years
ago.
Alastair
is
a
non-profit
association
which
was
created
three
years
ago.
We
are
right
now
more
than
500
entities
and
with
a
heterogeneous
composition,
even
though
we
it
started
mainly
with
big
companies
as
attractors.
B
It
is
critical
to
empower
small
american
enterprises
to
participate
actively
in
the
evolution
of
blockchain
applications
and
use
cases,
and
this
is
one
of
the
missions
of
the
association.
Sorry,
it
is
also
very
important
to
collaborate
with
public
administrations,
research,
centers,
universities,
etc.
Participation
is
open
to
everybody
and,
for
example,
existing
members
cannot
arbitrarily
exclude
other
entities
from
joining
as
long
as
some
rules
are
followed,
which
has
to
be
which
are
transparent,
fair
and
inclusive.
So
existing
members
cannot
say
I
don't
want
this
competitor
to
enter
the
association
okay.
B
This
is
like
in
the
reaction
by
the
way,
in
addition
to
being
a
normal
association
normally
in
the
sense
that
is
a
a
way
to
exchange
to
network
between
members.
One
of
the
main
objectives
is
to
promote
the
creation
of
actual
working
and
operational
public
permission
networks,
and
here
we
see
one
of
the
networks,
the
the
oldest
one,
okay,
which
is
operated
by
the
members
of
alaska.
There
are
others
growing,
based
on
hyperledger,
bezel
and
hyperledger
fabric.
B
Okay,
we
are
agnostic
to
the
technology.
Is
the
members
who
want
to
do
something
with
one
technology,
the
ones
who
are
going
to
take
the
initiative?
And
I
want
to
stress
the
point
that
the
association
does
not
operate
any
single
node
or
service
on
the
network,
the
association
as
legal
entity?
Okay,
the
association
just
promotes
the
network.
The
network
is
completely
operated
by
the
members,
and
anybody
can
participate
in
running
the
network
if
they
comply
with
some
operational
rules
that
have
been
set
up
and
accepted
by
all
members
of
the
community.
B
The
rules
are
transparent
and
non-discriminatory,
even
though
we
still
have
a
long
way
to
go
in
order
to
make
it
as
decentralized
as
we
want,
because
the
target
is
really
challenging
by
the
way.
There
is
no
business
modeling
operating
development.
This
is
not
a
blockchain
as
a
service
or
similar
things.
Okay,
the
money
for
companies
is
in
the
applications
on
top,
so
the
companies
want
the
network
to
exist
because
they
want
to
deploy
some
use
cases
and
they
need
a
network
with
these
characteristics.
B
B
They
are
much
easier
to
implement
than
the
use
cases
where
interchange
of
digital
value
is
involved,
but
this
is
natural,
because
the
focus
is
on
the
real
economy,
because
everything
is
important,
but
a
special
focus
is
on
the
red
part
of
the
economy.
This
is
trying
to
represent
the
whole
economy,
and
this
is
just
focusing
on
the
real
economy
versus
the
financial
economy.
The
real
economy
is
the
part
of
the
economy
that
produces
goods
and
services,
rather
than
the
part
that
consists
of
financial
services
such
as
banks,
stock
markets,
etc.
B
In
reality,
the
financial
economy
should
be
at
the
service
of
the
real
economy,
because
the
people
are
in
the
middle
and
it
makes
sense
because,
in
general,
the
quality
of
life
of
europeans
is
very
correlated
with
the
gross
domestic
product
gdp
of
the
region,
which
is
the
real
economy
and
the
efficient
and
transparent
functioning
of
its
public
administrations.
I
have
painted
in
blue,
basically
the
arrows
which
are
most
important
in
this
complex
cycle
of
the
real
economy.
B
Unfortunately,
one
of
the
biggest
problems
we
have
now
is
the
growing
disconnect
between
the
financial
economy
and
the
real
economy.
We
all
know
that
in
principle,
the
financial
economy,
as
I
said,
should
be
at
the
service
of
the
real
economy,
but
lately,
especially
with
digitalization,
it
seems
to
be
an
independent
animal
which
serves
only
a
few
leaving
most
of
the
people
underserved
in
the
real
economy.
Most
essential
needs
of
human
beings
are
physical,
not
digital.
B
If
you
don't
eat,
you
die
the
same
with
water,
electricity
and
clothing,
people
need
vaccinations,
medicines,
hospitals,
doctors,
machinery
instruments,
etc.
People
need
roads,
vehicles,
boats,
planes,
etc.
Can
you
imagine
tokenizing
everything
and
then,
following
on
the
steps
of
the
bitcoin
and
skyrocketing
the
prices
of
all
essential
services?
This
is
one
of
the
major
challenges
of
tokenization.
Its
focus
should
be
on
the
real
economy
and
enhances
the
quality
of
life
of
all
citizens.
B
It
should
not
be
centered
on
the
financial
economy
in
an
insulated
way,
and
let
me
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
real
economy,
because
a
common
theme
in
the
blockchain
space
is
we
have
to
decentralize
this.
We
have
to
decentralize
that,
but
the
real
economy
is
already
very
decentralized
and
we
need
the
blockchain
to
coordinate
efficiently
all
the
activities
of
many
different,
independent
and
autonomous
entities.
B
Think
about
local
governments
in
small
villages.
Decentralization
is
a
good
way
to
be
in
direct
contact
with
their
citizens
and
provide
better
services
which
are
relevant
to
them.
The
real
problem
in
the
real
world
is
how
to
act
efficiently
and
in
a
coordinated
way.
So
we
have
two
two
apparently
conflicting
goals:
better
services
require
the
centralization,
but
efficiency
and
control
require
centralization
and
blockchain
can
help
coordination
of
the
centralized
services.
That's
one
of
the
main
challenges
but,
as
I
said,
the
problem
is
general
everywhere
we
look
and
scratch
past
the
surface.
B
B
The
problem
in
the
real
economy,
the
one
which
is
most
important
for
the
people,
is
not
decentralizing
things
but
to
coordinate
efficiently
things
which
are
already
very,
very
decentralized
for
each
pair
of
entities
interacting
in
the
real
economy.
You
see
the
centralized
workflows
between
them,
basically
registering
compromises,
agreements,
promises,
certifications,
etc,
and
with
current
technology.
Many
things
can
go
wrong
because
there
is
not
a
single
source
of
truth
and
reconciliation
and
inefficiency
represents
a
significant
cost,
both
monetary
and
for
quality
of
service
and
the
young
customer.
B
The
citizen
is
the
one
suffering
and
paying
for
that
inefficiency
and
many
times
there
is
to
the
health
or
physical
integrity
are
very,
very
high.
Think
about
food
traceability
or
vaccination
logistics
in
this
pandemic
or
thousands
of
other
use
cases
not
related
to
a
speculation.
For
curiosity.
You
don't
see
payments
in
this
picture.
Okay,
because
normally
the
payment
is
performed
several
weeks
or
months
after
the
actual
transactions
have
taken
place,
and
we
can
see
also
that
volumes
of
transactions
due
to
workflows
are
much
higher
than
the
number
of
payments
or
actual
asset
transfers.
B
So
you
see
in
the
use
cases
that
I
displayed
before
a
typical
trend
in
the
real
economy:
okay,
because
in
the
real
economy,
the
real
problem
is
selling
not
getting
paid
and
continuing
with
the
story.
Let
me
talk
a
little
bit
about
fc,
okay,
because
the
european
blockchain
services,
infrastructure
or
fc
and
alastair
are
completely
interrelated.
Fc
is
a
joint
initiative
from
the
european
commission
and
member
states
to
deliver
european
white
cross-border
public
services
using
blockchain
technology.
B
The
main
objective
of
fc
is
to
enhance
the
provision
of
cross-border
services,
including
the
mobility
of
citizens
and
enterprises,
and,
at
the
same
time,
it
will
be
a
key
enabler
for
the
digital
transformation
of
the
whole
european
economic
area.
The
network
and
initial
use
cases
are
approaching
production
state
which
is
planned
for
2021
and
guess
what
two
technologies
are
being
used
for:
two
types
of
blockchain
networks,
hyperledger
bezu
and
hyperlaser
fabric,
both
hyperledger.
So
this
is
good
news,
and
these
are
the
use
cases
currently
being
implemented
in
fc.
B
One
of
them
is
much
more
than
a
use
case.
The
european
self-serving
identity
framework
or
asif
in
short,
is
a
key
enabler
for
all
the
other
use
cases
now
and
in
the
future,
remember:
500
million
people,
citizens
and
330
million
companies
or
businesses.
Okay,
these
are
new
use
cases
already
accepted,
but
not
yet
ready
really
really
really
started.
B
Okay,
now
trust
we
all
know
is
a
key
component
of
society
and
the
economy,
the
lower
the
trust
among
participants,
the
higher
the
cost
of
transacting
among
those
participants
and
the
future
is
not
going
to
be
a
single
network
dominating
the
whole
world
and
for
all
possible
use
cases.
The
future
is
going.
We
all
know
a
network
of
interoperable
networks
and
centralized
systems
and
at
the
top
of
the
figure.
Okay,
you
see
a
blockchain
network
that
the
european
commission
and
the
members
they
start
building
the
fc
okay
and
putting
into
production
this
year.
B
As
I
said,
the
network
is
called
fc.
Okay,
because
the
s
is
for
actual
services,
not
just
a
void
thing.
Okay
and
the
main
objective
is
to
enhance
the
provision
of
cross-border
services.
As
I
said,
even
though
is
fc
is
a
network
of
governments
and
public
administrations.
The
new
digital
identity
system,
developed
by
the
28
governments
and
the
european
commission
will
be
useful
outside
of
fc,
especially
by
the
private
sector.
B
We
all
need
this,
and
I
think
that,
in
order
to
cross
network
boundaries,
I
have
represented
here
alastria
networks,
then
fc,
but
other
countries
are
doing
the
same
thing,
but
you
can
have
private
consortiums
and
existing
systems,
even
even
though
they
are
not
blockchain
networks.
Okay,
in
order
to
cross
boundaries
in
a
secure
and
efficient
way,
many
independent
networks
will
use
fc
as
an
anchoring
mechanism
to
share
trusted
facts
about
participants
in
different
levels
and
the
new
pan-european,
blockchain
digital
identity
system
is
going
to
play
a
crucial
role
in
this
interpretability.
B
By
the
way,
fc
is
another
instance
of
a
public
permission.
Blockchain
network,
like
some
of
the
emerging
national
blockchain
networks
like
ipsy
from
italy
and
the
network
from
slovenia,
and
some
other
national
blockchain
networks.
They
are
all
basically
following
the
same
public
permission.
Blockchain
networks
and
digital
identity,
as
I
said,
is
the
killer
application
to
facilitate
interoperability.
This
is
not
just
digital
identity
which
is
important
is,
is
the
one
of
the
enablers
for
many
many
use
cases
of
interoperability.
B
We
need
a
trusted
common
digital
identity
for
natural
persons,
for
businesses
and
also
for
things
and
processes
or
workflows.
Okay
and
given
that
credentials
flow,
mainly
outside
of
the
blockchain,
the
service
provider
receiving
and
verifying
them,
could
be
in
any
part
of
the
world
as
long
as
it
trusts
on
the
origin
network.
Okay,
if
they
trust
on,
let's
say
a
decentralized
blockchain
network
built
by
the
european
commission
and
28
members
and
all
the
public
administrators
that
will
join
the
network.
Okay,
with
the
same
public
permission
principle
where
nobody
can
control
the
network.
B
The
service
providers
can
be
anywhere
in
canada
in
latin
america
wherever
okay,
and
this
is
how
a
network
would
achieve
interoperability-
and
I
talk
about
interoperability,
because
this
is
one
of
the
main
themes
that
we
want
right
now
to
pursue
in
alaska
interoperability,
not
just
with
pepsi,
but
also
with
other
blockchain
networks,
specifically
the
other
national
blockchain
networks
appearing
in
in
europe
and
in
other
parts
of
the
of
the
world.
But
they
have
to
be
compatible
at
the
governance
level.
B
B
The
citizen
can
onboard
a
bank
banking
other
in
in
whatever
country,
okay,
without
connecting
the
infrastructure
without
having
the
bank
to
participate
with
a
node
in
the
network
where
the
credential
is
generated
and
by
the
way,
this
is
essential
to
any
wide-ranging
tokenization
initiative
to
facilitate
exchange
of
tokens
in
a
compliant
way
and
with
minimal
friction.
Okay
and
at
the
end-
and
I
am
almost
finishing-
this-
is
to
ask
the
right
way
to
describe
interoperability
across
blockchain
networks
when
the
citizen
is
involved.
B
Who
is
the
most
important
thing
in
the
world
again,
and
it
is
up
to
the
leaders
and
participants
of
the
different
networks
and
applications
to
enable
this
future
a
feature
where
identity,
decentralization
and
interoperability
play
a
crucial
role
in
facilitating
the
future.
I
will
say
it
again
because
they
are
both
together.
Identity
identity
actually
is
a
human
right.
Okay,
the
centralization,
the
real
decentralization,
not
what
many
people
think
decentralization
is
and
interoperability.
B
B
B
C
Thank
you,
jesus
hi,
everyone,
brian
billandorf,
here
from
the
linux
foundation,
from
from
hyperledger
as
well.
We
are
really
looking
forward
to
your
questions.
If
you
can
drop
them
into
chat,
I
think,
although
are
we
going
to
keep
the
q
a
tool
live
and
want
them
to
drop
it
in
there
or
should
they
just
drop
it
straight
into
into
chat.
A
C
C
If
you
do
want
to
ask
your
question:
live,
raise
your
hand
and
I'll
keep
an
eye
out
for
that
raised
hand
thing
and
certainly
happy
to
bring
you
on
I'd
love
to
take
the
liberty
of
starting
with
the
first
question,
though,
I'd
love
to
know
just
like
some
more
operational
details.
If
you
don't
mind,
so
I
you
showed
one
of
the
one
of
the
alaska
networks,
you
have
multiple
networks
right.
A
couple
different
protocols
in
use
you
mentioned
fabric,
is
one.
C
B
Well,
that's
right
now:
it's
qualm
okay,
because
we
started
a
long
time
ago.
Then
we
have
bezu
as
a
smaller
network
but
growing.
But
our
strategy,
I
would
say,
is
to
to
mix
both
in
the
ethereum
side
of
technologies
is
to
mix
quorum,
bezu
and
other
clients,
because
we
think
diversity
is
a
must
for
for
for
a
network
which
cannot
be
put
behind
fireballs
or
whatever.
B
This
is
like,
like
ethereum,
let's
say
but
permission,
so
you
can
think
of
of
this
network
like
ethereum,
so
it's
open
to
attacks
from
everybody.
So
we
need
diversity.
We
we
need
bison,
tinfoil
tolerance
and
so
on.
Okay-
and
I
see
that
in
the
audience,
there
is
whole
foods
of
us
okay,
who
can
talk
about
this
fabric
network,
okay,
better
than
me
because
he's
leading
the
the
one
of
the
of
the
persons
leading
this
this
network.
This
is
just
a
new
network.
B
But
you
know
that
when
you
can
do
this
at
the
end,
there
is
a
very
limited
set
of
the
of
data
centers
in
europe,
and
you
see
some
concentration
of
nodes
in
some
nodes,
for
example
in
germany,
in
france,
in
ireland
and
and
so
on.
Okay,
now,
if
I
answer
from
the
european
union
perspective,
okay,
we
are
setting
up
rules
where
we
try
to
avoid
concentration
on
data
centers,
okay,
because
otherwise
they
could
choose
all
aws,
for
example
azure.
We
don't
want
that.
B
C
Sometimes,
there's
a
challenge
in
supporting
that
mode,
though,
which
is
I
mean,
even
if
they're
all
in
the
same
continent,
latency
can
be
a
real
killer?
For
you
know
the
byzantine
fault,
tolerant
algorithms
is
there,
have
there
been
upper
limits
that
you've
hit
with
just
the
existing
sets
of
nodes
in
terms
of
performance
and
and
suitability
to
purpose.
B
That's
a
good
question.
We
haven't
found
any
major
problem
related
to
this.
I
I
know
that
in
many
many
papers
and
so
on,
they
talk
about
the
latencies
and
so
on.
In
our
experience
the
connectivity
between
data
center
to
data
center,
because
you
have
to
take
into
account
that
this
is
not
consumer
grade
things.
These
are
typically
deployed
on
data
centers.
We
have
found
that
from
data
center
to
this
data
center
is
not
the
same
as
when
you
are
deploying
inside
a
data
center.
B
C
B
Well,
yeah:
well,
actually,
actually
we
started
trying
to
expand
the
network.
We
have
had
several
companies
trying
to
do
not
just
the
typical
ethical
hacking
and
so
on,
but
trying
to
to
to
take
the
network
down
and
then
the
network,
of
course,
is
not
the
same.
But
okay.
I
have
been
15
years,
sorry
in
bangkok
and
thunder
okay
technology
and
so
on
and
well
30
years
in
banking,
okay,
before
joining
united
first
in
ibm
and
so
on.
Just
for
retail
banking.
B
I
can
tell
you
that
I
have
never
ever
seen
such
a
robust
technology
for
such
a
low.
Let's
say
you
need
to
do
things
in
a
different
way,
but
I
have
never
seen
any
other
way
to
deploy
an
infrastructure
which
is
so
resilient
and
so
robust
as
this
now.
Having
said
that,
the
speed
is
just
very
bad:
okay
as
a
database,
it's
horrible,
okay
as
a
write-only
database
for
read-only
or
for
read
and
queries
it's
incredibly
resilient.
Okay.
So,
from
the
point
of
view
resiliency
I
have
never
seen.
B
I
mean
it's
impossible
that
a
single
company
can
deploy
something
like
this
impossible.
Okay,
if
you
do
the
right
things,
this
is
much
is
better,
is
has
a
much
higher
resiliency
than
what,
for
example,
amazon
can
do
or
google
alone
I
can.
I
can
say
that,
okay,
I
know
this
is
pretentious
okay,
but
no.
C
Yeah
and
when
you're
thinking
about
the
the
amount
of
volume
anticipate
clearly,
a
related
question
is
what
kind
of
use
case
is
this
suitable
for?
Because
if
it's
a
financial
services
use
case,
then
you're
going
to
start?
If
it's,
if
it's
like
immediate
settlement
on
all
retail
payments
in
europe,
that
would
be.
You
know,
tens
of
thousands
of
transactions,
a
second
you'd
have
to
support
right.
C
B
Okay,
let
me
just
start
saying
that:
okay,
I
understand
why,
but
we
are
focusing
on
one
of
the
networks:
okay,
but
fabric
is
another
thing
and
then
probably
some
other
technology
will
come
because
in
the
same
vein,
that
we
think
that
the
world
is
not
going
to
be
done
by
one
single
network.
The
world
is
not
going
to
be
dominated
by
a
single
technology
and
there
may
be
different
technologies
for
different
problems,
so
you
may
have
one
problem:
one
solution
like
in
the
real
world:
okay.
B
Now,
having
said
that,
my
opinion,
because
alastria
okay,
I
am
board
member
of
alaska,
but
you
can
have
a
lot
of
opinions.
Actually,
we
we
are
500
entities
or
more
than
500
and
as
we
say
in
spain,
if
you
have
500
spanish
people
who
have
500
different
opinions,
okay,
so
this
is
just
my
opinion.
So
my
opinion
is
that
the
network
that
we
are
talking
about
red
team
okay,
is
suitable
not
for
every
use
case
that
you
can
drop.
B
I
I
see
this
like
like
also
an
anchoring
mechanism,
and
I
have
already
talked
to
some
entities-
okay,
businesses
in
in
the
in
the
alaska
association,
because
the
network
is
permission
only
for
joining
the
network
for
putting
a
node.
Once
you
have
joined
you
can
deploy
it's
like
in
ethereum,
then
you
can
deploy
whatever
use
case
so
deploying
this
use
cases
and
smart
contents
and
applications
is
not
permissioned.
Okay,
it's
only
putting
your
node
so.
B
We
we
are
we're
on
the
process.
Right
now
is
for
free,
because
the
network
is,
we
have
only
three
million
transactions
per
month.
Okay,
so
this
is
not
enough
to
to
to
bring
the
the
network
on.
So
we
want
to
to
to
keep
this
as
free
and
cheap
as
possible,
and
then
we
are
prepared
for
the
future.
Where,
if
congestion
comes,
then
you
will
have
to
pay
for
the
network.
Okay,
okay,.
C
B
At
network
prices,
okay,
so
so
it
is
like
telcos,
okay.
Now,
having
said
that,
I
see
alaska,
this
network
more
as
an
anchoring
mechanism,
so
you
can,
for
example,
build
private
consortium
and
then
you
can.
You
can
basically
notarize
every
night
or
every
hour
on
this
network,
okay,
instead
of
ethereum
here,
because
then
you
have
all
the
all
the
illegal
things.
Okay,
because
that's
to
me
the
only
way
to
achieve
real
scalability,
okay,.
C
Okay,
so,
if,
like
an
nft
use
case,
popped
up,
a
public
entity
use
case
popped
up
on
alastria
and
suddenly
started
driving,
you
know
tens
of
millions
of
transactions
a
day.
Your
recommendation
would
be
use
the
elastria
blockchain
as
an
anchor
but
set
up
a
private
set
of
nodes
between
a
couple
of
other
parties.
I
mean
it
does
affect
decentralization
a
little
bit
right.
C
The
nice
thing
about
exchanging
nfts
on
the
ethereum
blockchain
is
you
can
do
it
atomically
with
payment
right
which
it's
harder
to
do
in
kind
of
a
subtree
kind
of
arrangement?
But
but
that
certainly,
is
you
know
kind
of
it's
almost
like
manual
sharding.
In
a
way
you
know
kind
of
like
manually
kind
of
dividing
out
by
by
busyness
or
use
case.
I
guess
it
just
is
a
function
of
how
easy
is
it
to
set
up
these
these
sub
trees,
these
side
channels?
B
You
have
to
take
into
account
something
okay,
because
in
alaska
all
the
nodes
are
typically
deployed
by
individual
natural
persons
are
businesses,
so
they
have
identities
so
the
the
the
blockchain
networks.
In
reality
I
mean
some
new
business
models
can
be
appearing
okay,
but
for
making
more
efficient
existing
processes.
B
Okay,
then
you
don't
really
need
to
do
what
you
will
have
to
do
when
you
have
to
operate
with
a
chinese
guy,
okay
from
the
us,
because
you
are
inside
the
european
union
or
inside
a
trade
corridor
where
you
already
have
solved
this,
so
you
have
identities,
you
have
digital
signatures.
You
have
the
ability
to
go
to
the
to
the
jurisdiction
or
to
to
whatever
okay
to
to
the
to
the
legal
system,
so
the
legal
system.
B
We
have
to
avoid
this
as
much
as
possible,
but
it's
just
there
just
in
case
you
need
it
because,
then
you
have
all
the
traceability
or
the
immutability
because,
contrary
to
what
people
think
in
a
permission
network,
if
you
do
the
right
things,
you
have
immutability.
Okay,
because
you
have
digital
signatures.
Come
on.
Okay,.
C
Do
you
do
you
have?
Do
you
have
the
ability
on
the
on
the
alastria
network
if,
if
one
node
is
being
a
bad
actor
and
is
pumping
out
lots
of
you
know
transactions
kind
of
swamping
the
capacity
or
I
I
you
know
otherwise,
trying
to
do
things
that
the
rest
of
the
community
doesn't
feel
is
right?
Is
there
a
governance
mechanism
by
which
the
other
illustrious
nodes
can
vote
and
have
that
one
removed.
B
C
B
Well,
we
can
do
this
okay,
but
we
have
not
automated
this
okay,
but
basically
we
have
the
rules,
because
the
rules
I
mean
the
rules
are
there,
so
the
tools
can
be
implemented.
Remember
we
are
a
non-profit
association.
Our
muscle
is
very,
very
limited
because
it's
non-profit,
so
actually
the
association
is
leaving
from
there
from
the
members
everything
in
alaska.
Almost
everything
is
done
by
the
members,
so
the
members
can
say
we
don't
want
this
guy
and
we
have
committees
of
of
members.
The
validator
knows,
for
example,
okay.
B
There
is
a
committee
of
validators
that
decide
several
things:
okay,
for
example,
upgrading
and
so
on,
but
in
a
transparent
way,
because
we
don't
want
any
any
black
box.
Okay,
so
everything
is
totally
transparent.
Of
course,
we
are
far
from
let's
say
the
the
the
the
vision
that
we
have.
Okay.
Why?
Because
it's
difficult
come
on,
I
mean
this
is,
but
what
we
have
implemented
is
a
decentralized
model.
Okay,
where
many
many
things
are
still
manual
and
we
are
doing
steps
into
these
objectives.
Okay,
but
the
rules
are
already
set
up.
C
Yeah-
and
this
is
something
that
then
the
open
source
community,
we
think
about
all
the
time
is
you
know,
even
though
it
feels
like
the
at
the
root
of
open
source
software
is
the
license
and
is
obviously
the
software
itself.
These
communities
work,
because,
because
the
the
the
license
gives
you
the
right
to
fork
and
that
ultimately
holds
those
in
power
with
to
check
if
linus
torvalds
ended
up
making
a
series
of
bad
decisions
right,
the
rest
of
the
linux
community
can
take
his
kernel
project
in
a
different
direction.
C
They
might
have
to
change
the
name
right,
but
that
that
right
to
fork
is
like
core
to
the
concept
of
open
source
software,
and
it's
interesting
that
it's
a
part
of
the
the
public
blockchain
space
where
you
know
when
there
is
that
debate
in
the
ethereum
ecosystem
about
reversing
the
the
the
dow
hack
right.
You
know
that
spawned
the
ethereum
classic
kind
of
thing
that
right
to
fork,
I
mean
it's
a
pretty
impressive
thing
to
watch.
C
Do
you
think
on
either
elastria
or
in
general,
on
on
kind
of
public
permission
to
blockchains?
We'll
see
this
kind
of
right
to
fork?
Is
that
important?
Is
that
part
of
your
governance
model
already
like
what
happens
if
there
is
a
really
bad
dispute?
Inside
of
you
know,
your
board
inside
of
the
validator
network,
could
two
networks
come
out
of
that.
B
Yeah,
of
course
I
mean
this
can
happen
actually,
actually,
even
more
than
that,
I
mean
the
existing
network.
Okay,
the
red
team,
because
I
am
representing
a
company
which
is
in
the
validators,
so
it
doesn't
belong.
The
network
does
not
belong
to
alaska
alastra
promotes
that
the
members
generate
the
network,
but
if
we
this
is,
this
is
not
going
to
happen
because
it's
a
win-win
relationship.
Okay,
it's
a
symbiosis,
but
if
the
network
wants
to
go
away
from
alaska,
they
can
do
that.
B
A
C
It's
controversial,
it's
it's,
you
know
and
there's
certainly
other
blockchain
governance
networks.
I
can
think
of
where
that's
not
allowed,
because
the
premise
is
like
no,
the
data,
that's
written,
maybe
it's
sensitive
data
or
you
know
I
I
you
know
it's
just
people
are
more
used
to
a
top-down
structure
in
their
governance.
They're,
not
students
of
eleanor
ostrom
like
like,
like
you,
are
in
others,
and
so
that's
why
I'm
really
really
passionate
about
seeing
illastria
succeed
and
hopefully
ebsy
can
also
incorporate
many
of
these
many
of
this
thinking.
B
B
Okay
with
a
much
more
resilient
infrastructure,
but
the
level
should
be
there.
You
shouldn't
be
creating
different
networks
like
with
the
internet,
so
you
shouldn't
be
asking
to
another
company.
Okay,
let's
try
to
build
these
use
cases
like
a
consortium.
Let's
try
to
build
our
own
infrastructure
because
otherwise
it's
not
possible.
No,
no,
the
network
should
be
there
and
then
you
can
deploy
many
different
use.
Cases
like
in
the
internet,
okay,
so
the
internet
is
something
that
is
out
of
discussion
right
now.
You
assume
the
internet
to
exist
and
everybody
to
have
access.
C
I
want
to
remind
the
folks
listening,
you
know.
We
really
welcome
questions.
I
and
if
you
want
to
ask
a
question,
live,
feel
free
to
raise
your
hand
and
I'm
watching
kind
of
the
participant
list
to
look
for
raised
hands.
I
haven't
seen
any
yet,
so
that's
cool
also
feel
free
and
chat
to
send
a
message.
C
If
you
have
a
question
to
ask
so
far,
there
was
one
submitted
from
marta
picarska
asking.
How
will
these
mixes
work?
How
can
a
network
handle
many
types
of
nodes,
and
let
me
actually
extrapolate
upon
that
to
ask
kind
of
a
two-part
question.
One
is
you
know
when
you
have
lots
of
different
protocols?
You
support
right
bay,
zoo
and
quorum
are
pretty
close
and
I
think
there's
there's
even
a
chance
that
they'll
get
even
closer
to
being
truly
compatible
clients
on
the
same
networks.
You've
got
fabric,
which
is
a
very
different
approach.
C
B
I
think
that
at
the
end
again,
the
decision
is
not
taken
by
a
last
three
associations,
but
the
members-
and
you
see
a
concentration
like,
for
example,
with
databases.
Okay,
so
you
had
many
relational
databases
40
years
ago
and
so
on
coming
and
then
at
the
end
you
had
only
three
okay.
Basically,
then
the
nosql
databases
appear,
then
you
have
fillions
and
then
at
the
end
on
the
real
use
cases,
you
have
a
limited
choice.
So
this
is
natural.
This
is
going
to
happen
so
which
ones
are
going
to
be
the
survivors?
B
We
don't
have
corda
well.
Is
this
a
choice
of
choice
of
alaska?
No,
I
mean
we're
agnostic,
but
the
members
of
alastair
have
not
requested
corla.
Okay,
that's
that's
yeah,
and
then
and
then
let
me
let
me
also
say
something
about
the
mixing
protocols.
Okay,
because
one
thing,
as
you
really
mentioned,
is
to
mix
different
client
implementations
of
the
same
protocol
like,
for
example,
ibft2
or
whatever,
which
is
happening
in
the
ethereum
base
or
enterprise
ethereum
alliance.
B
Okay,
because
then
you
have
bezu
quorum,
they
are
going,
you
have
from
other
clearmatics
and
so
on,
they're
joining
forces
to
define
a
common
protocol
and
then
different
implementations.
Now
fabric
is,
as
you
said,
it's
a
different
animal.
Okay,
but
my
opinion.
It
would
be
fantastic
to
have
different
implementations
of
the
same.
Let's
say:
client,
okay,
peer
notes
with
different
languages,
for
example.
Instead
of
go
to
have
one
go,
and
one
in
in
rust,
for
example,
okay,
but
why
this
is
complex,
but
this
is
adding
diversity.
B
Now,
if
this
is
not
possible,
then
you
have
to
add
diversity
by
not
using
the
same
data
center,
so
you
mix
amazon,
azure
and
so
on.
Different
companies,
okay,
because
the
critical
thing
is
that,
if
a
bad
actor
enters
into
one
node
controlled
by
one
entity,
the
idea
is
that
this
f4
cannot
be
replicated
to
the
other
nodes.
So
they
have
to
do
another
effort
and
another
effort
and
every
company
has
to
have
different
policies.
Okay,
so
diversity
is
critical.
B
C
Yeah,
no,
I
I
I
it
does
it
does
surprise
me.
I
would
have
expected
to
see
a
an
implementation
of
the
fabric
protocol
in
rust,
you
know
or
or
python,
or
something
like
that
in
other
languages
as
a
emerge
eventually
over
time.
Maybe
we
will
maybe
that's
the
way
we
actually
look
at.
You
know
evolution
within
the
fabric
community,
but
it's
interesting
interesting
point.
C
Have
these
different
networks,
but
in
the
early
days
of
the
net
it
would
not
have
worked
if
we
had
different
dnses
or
different
systems
for
allocating
ip
addresses,
and
I
kind
of
think
you
know
those
early
institutions
on
the
internet,
first
iana
which
allocated
addresses
and
and
then
the
network
solutions
contract
which
eventually
became
icann
for
the
domain
name
system,
those
all
kind
of
emerged
long
before
we
realized
how
important
all
of
this
was
right.
I
think
it'd
be
hard
to
reinvent
some
of
those
today.
C
If
we
had
to
come
up
with
an
institution
to
fairly
allocate
new
ip
addresses,
it
would
be
intensely
political
and
be
very
hard
to
get
consensus
on.
So
I
think
the
good
news
is
because
we
have
icann
and
ways
of
doing
you
know
ip
addresses.
We
can
actually
support
lots
of
different
options
at
the
levels
above,
but
there's
still
the
law
of
network
effects.
There's
still,
you
know
all
the
power
that
google
and
twitter
have
is
because
every
that's
where
everybody
is
right,
and
so
I
think
there'll
be
this
tension.
B
See
you
know
and
that's
a
very
good
point
that
you
made,
but
let
me
let
me
also
speak
about
another
blockchain
network
that
appears
in
one
of
my
slides
is
blockchain,
which
is
a
a
latin
american
and
caribbean
blockchain
network
promoted
by
the
idb,
okay,
the
the
the
the
the
development
bank
there,
okay,
which
is
not
a
bank,
it's
an
institution
with
the
purpose
of
developed
countries,
okay
and
the
original.
So
it's
very
interesting
that
okay,
I
I
am
also
participating
there.
B
Okay,
so
we
need
something
like
the
internet
with.
Is
it's
a
different
animal?
Okay,
it's
a
completely
different
animal,
but
the
principle
should
be
the
same.
That's
the
key
thing!
Okay,
as
you
mentioned,
it's
impossible
to
replicate
these
institutions,
but
this
is
this
is
a
problem.
Okay,
it
would
be
fantastic,
but
but
again
the
internet.
B
C
Yeah,
well,
we
certainly
all
want
to
do
things
on
a
shorter
amount
of
time
frame
too
than
the
40
years
the
internet
has
had,
and
hopefully
avoid
some
of
the
mistakes
from
the
internet
architecture
like
the
cookie
header
that
led
to
so
much
damage.
Let
me
ask
kind
of
what
I
think
is
an
implicit
second
half
of
marta's
question,
which
is
around
interoperability
and
integration.
C
Are
there?
Are
there
tools?
Well,
let
me
ask
this:
are
you
tracking
any
of
the
efforts
like
cosmos
or
the
the
ibc,
the
or
or
even
things
like
in
hyperledger,
like
cactus
as
potential
toolkits,
to
make
it
easier
to
do
cross-chain
kinds
of
transactions?
Is
there
anything
that
the
the
membership
that
the
last
gym
membership
has
gravitated
towards
as
a
way
to
to
do
this.
B
Yeah
well,
there
is
an
interoperability
work
group
because
in
alaska
you
you
do
things
in
in
world
groups:
okay,
where
the
members
collaborate
virtually,
and
there
is
an
interpretive
one.
Okay
and
then
in
this
interoperability
work
group.
There
are
some
themes:
okay,
one
of
the
main
things
is
cactus,
okay,
based
on
characters.
So
so
we
have
splaying
cactus
and
then
there's
activity
around
cactus.
Now,
having
said
that,
interoperability
is
is
very
complex
and
I
have
well
tomorrow.
B
Tomorrow
I
go
to
the
european
commission
for
for
explaining
the
approach
you
have
different
layers.
Okay,
cactus
is
basically
on
the
lower
technical
layers,
but
the
interoperability
initiatives
that
we
are
starting
with
some
other
networks
in
europe
is
starting
from
the
top
okay.
So
without
interconnecting
the
networks
for
use
cases
that
are
not
exchange
of
value,
which
are
just
proof
of
something
in
the
past,
so
they
are
just
notarizations.
B
Interoperability
is
much
easier
to
do.
Think
about
a
diploma.
Okay,
a
diploma
a
diploma
can
be
registered
in
one
blockchain,
basically,
a
hash,
well,
it's
more
complex
than
it
has
in
in
the
use
case.
But
at
the
end
you
write
once
and
then
you
you
query
many
times
in
many
places,
so
you
don't
have
to
exchange
value.
There
is
no
trading,
there
is
no
exchange
of
value.
So
so
it's
a
proof
of
thing.
Okay,
actually,
in
the
real
economy.
B
Many
things
are
like
that,
so
the
interoperability
actions
are
starting
in
many
layers,
but
where
you
will
see
actual
use
cases
being
put
into
production
is
going
to
be
first
in,
let's
say
notarization
or
workflow
use
cases,
because
they
are
much
simpler
and
we
don't
use
anything
like
cactus.
Okay,
so
I
I
don't
know
if
I
explained
this
thing,
but
yeah,
but
different
types
of
use
cases
have
different
problems
and
then
using,
for
example,
self-serving
identity.
You
can
make
interpro
many
many
applications
wherever
they
are.
Okay,
yeah,
for
example,.
C
Yeah,
I
know
a
lot
of
important
things.
I
think
the
like
the
most
frequent
use
case
for
this
kind
of
cross-chain
integration
that
I
can
think
of
is
you
know
paying
for
for
goods
and
shipment
right.
You
know
where
you've
got
one
ledger,
that's
tracking
supply
chain,
another
ledger,
that's
tracking
that
that
is
designed
for
payments
right,
you
know,
might
even
be
ethereum
or
bitcoin
or
something
like
that
and
just
wanting
to
make
sure
those
transactions
are
atomic
so
that
you
know
I'm
paying-
and
I
now
have
title
to
that.
C
You
know
on
the
on
the
second
ledger,
so
lots
of
stuff
being
worked
on
in
this
space.
It
is
actually
interoperability
month
at
hyperledger,
so
on
our
on
twitter
and
our
social
feeds.
We're
trying
to
highlight
examples
of
where
this
is
happening
and
cactus
is
actually
one
of
two
projects
right
now
inside
of
hyperledger
there's
another
one
called
weaver,
that's
in
labs
and
we're
seeing
some
interest
in
potentially
more
code
coming
in
that
might
bring
us
closer
into
the
cosmos
kind
of
ecosystem
around
ibc.
C
There
was
a
question
in
q
a
about
how
do
we
address
the
risk
of
turing
completeness
of
eth-based
smart
contracts,
which
I
think
is
a
related
question
to
the
gas
fees,
question
and
bad
actors
question,
because
I
you
know,
I
know
eth
contracts
are
designed
to
try
to
not
be
infinite
loop
and
and
and
keep
going,
but
I
think
the
question
material
completeness
is
that
there's
the
possibility
of
you
know
it's
it's
the
what's
the
halting
problem
right.
You
know
that
might
keep
contracts
running
forever,
consuming
resources.
C
B
Okay,
because
the
initial
implementation
of
quorum-
and
back
when
I
was
still
in
in
santander,
didn't
have
implemented
gas
okay,
so
they
eliminated
completely
gas
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
made
a
fix
in
santander
and
then
we
asked
for
the
implementation,
for
the
real
implementation
is
please
re-enable
gas,
but
the
cost
is
not
zero.
Okay.
So,
basically,
when
you
execute
a
transaction
in
alaska,
you
need
to
supply
an
amount
of
gas.
B
C
B
B
It,
has
a
freemium
model,
let's
say:
okay,
so
you
can
experiment
for
free
and
then
you
can
you
can.
If
you
want
the
production
level
things
and
then
you
can
you
want
sale
and
so
on.
Then,
of
course
you
will
have
to
pay,
but
paying
for
a
share
infrastructure
is
much
less
than
paying
for
a
purpose-built
infrastructure.
Okay,
so
this
is
available
for
any
anybody.
Anybody
can
join
alastair,
so
you
have
to
join
astra.
You
need
to
join
alastair.
If
you
are
an
ngo,
you
pay
nothing.
B
If
you
are
a
startup,
you
pay
500
euros
per
year.
If
you
are
a
medium
enterprise,
smaller
meal
enterprise,
say
5
000
euros
per
year
or
if
you
are
a
big
ten
thousand,
so
this
is
and
then
you
can
use
the
networks
so,
depending
on
your
use
case
fabric
ethereum,
you
can
join
alastair
and
deploy
your
networks
there
and
by
the
way,
join
other
members
with
interesting
use
cases
in
an
actual
set
of
production,
ready
networks.
Okay,.
B
Thing
is,
if
you
have
another
network,
with
the
same,
let's
say:
compatible
objectives:
let's
talk
and
let's
talk
about
interoperability,
but
real
interpretation.
Let's
get
use
cases
real
use
cases
and
then,
let's
see
if
there
are
enough
members
in
alaska
and
enough,
let's
say
resources
in
in
your
network
and
let's
try
to
make
a
real
interoperability
use
case
because
we
have
to
to
do
things
practicing.
Okay,
so.
C
A
Yes,
so
a
couple
more
things,
so
thank
you.
Jesus
and
alastria.
Just
a
couple
of
things
we
will
be
taking
a
month
from
these
hyperledger
in-depth,
webinars
and
we'll
be
returning
again
in
july,
with
dlt,
global
bonifay
and
mytree,
but
there's
plenty
of
content
for
everyone.
We
are
hosting
our
annual
global
forum,
which
is
a
virtual
event.
A
This
year
june,
8th
through
the
10th
we'll
have
two
global
segments
for
asia,
pacific
europe
and
the
americas,
and
we
have
three
days
of
content
with
over
a
hundred
different
talks,
including
another
one,
from
alastair,
going
a
little
bit
deeper
into
the
topic
that
we
discussed
again.
So
please
do
join
us
there.
We
have
a
lot
of
pride
project,
hyperledger
project,
technical
talks
and
developer
talks
and
lots
of
different
topics
and
feel
free
to
use
the
20
discount
code.