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A discussion at the Hyperledger Media and Entertainment Special Interest Group on August 24, 2021 with Dr. Ali Emdad is the Associate Dean of the Earl G. Graves School of Business and Management and Founding Director of the Center for the Study of Blockchain and Financial Technology (The FinTech Center) at Morgan State University in Baltimore and , Maryland. The discussion focused on blockchain studies at historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs).
More about the Morgan FinTech Center is at: https://fintech.morgan.edu/
More about the Hyperledger Media and Entertainment Special Interest Group is at: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/MESIG/
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A
A
Social
networking
and,
let's
say
journalism
out
to
the
other
end
of
the
spectrum,
which
is
entertainment
which,
as
you
can
imagine,
includes
related
challenges,
vis-a-vis
piracy,
intellectual
property,
copyright
and
so
forth.
But
today
I'm
at
ucla
myself.
So
occasionally
topics
float
to
the
top
relating
to
to
higher
education
specifically
and
how
we
can
actually
promote
and
disseminate
and
teach
some
of
the
technology
that
we're
interested
in.
A
So
on
that
score,
and
as
a
consequence
of
some
recent
conversations,
we've
had
here
at
hyperledger,
I'm
very
lucky
to
have
as
our
special
guest
today
for
a
very
loosely
defined
chat.
Dr
ali
m,
dad
excuse
me
who
currently
is
associate
dean
at
the
earl
g,
grave
school
of
business
and
management
at
morgan,
state
university.
So
expanding
that
context
a
little
bit.
That
means
we're
talking
about
the
the
teaching
and
the
success
stories
in
hbcus
or
historically
black
colleges
and
universities.
So
welcome
to
dr
slash
dean
m
dad
thank.
A
B
B
His
history,
I
received
my
phd
from
caseless
reserve,
taught
at
a
few
different
universities,
including
penn
state,
when
I
came
to
morgan,
to
create
the
department
of
information
systems
and
and
then
build
that
program,
and
then
later
on,
I
became
the
dean
associate
dean
of
the
business
school,
and
that
leads
me
to
the
to
the
creation
of
the
the
center
for
the
study
of
blockchain
and
financial
technology
or
fintech.
We
call
it
the
fintech
center
in
2016
2017
time
frame.
B
We
noticed
a
lot
of
interest
from
students
meeting
informally
around
the
campus
at
morgan
and
and
talking
about
cryptocurrencies
interest
was
bubbling
up
from
the
the
student
side
and
and
then
we
decided
that
we
need
to
do
something
more
constructive,
more
or
organized
kind
of
event
forum
to
to
bring
the
students
into
in
touch
with
some
of
the
digital
asset,
community
and
and
crypto
economics.
Folks.
B
So
we
organized
the
the
first
panel
discussion
and
national
panel
discussion.
We
invited
matthew
green
who
was
on
the
development
team
for
zcash,
and
he
came
over
and
talked
as
part
of
that
panel
discussion
and
we
noticed
the
the
blockchain
club
was
being
formed
by
the
students
at
that
point.
So
we
became
really
interested
in
developing
our
offerings
on
campus,
so
we
offer
the
first
course
on
blockchain
at
any
hvcus,
any
historically
black
colleges
and
universities
around
the
country.
B
Princeton,
cornell,
utr,
texas
university
takes
us
at
austin
and
many
many
other
universities
around
the
world.
Where
part
of
this
initiative
that
dripple
had-
and
we
were
fortunate
to
be
one
of
those
universities
to
receive
funding
that
supported
our
center
and
as
part
of
our
mission,
I
think
I
I
would
like
to
share
my
this,
my
slides
that
would
make
it
a
little
bit
easier
to
follow
what
what
the
course
of.
C
B
B
B
B
We
we
thought
that
the
center
should
have
education,
research,
outreach
activities
and
on
the
education
side,
we
focused
on
developing
the
the
so-called
train,
the
trainer
kind
of
approach
of
developing
the
faculty.
First
and
in
2019
we
through
a
very
sort
of
competitive
process.
We
brought
in
45
faculty
from
30
hvcus
over
a
three-day
period
to
new
orleans,
and
we
had
support
from
duke
law
and
university
of
michigan
and
uc
berkeley.
B
The
faculty
from
these
universities
came
to
new
orleans
and
we
had
a
very
productive
three
days:
collaborative
environments,
encourage
development
and
encourage
sharing
of
ideas,
and
that's
what
the
goal
was
and
we
had
after
we
finished
the
institute
that
we
had
in
new
orleans.
The
faculty
actually
left
with
the
syllabi
for
courses
related
to
blockchain
modification
of
existing
courses
and
a
few
of
them
actually
had
started
developing
new
courses
and
they
finished
it
up
at
the
institute.
So
that
was
one
of
the
activities.
B
B
B
B
The
the
activities
every
year
we
we
have
a
conference
that
that
brings
together
all
of
the
researchers
and
people
that
were
part
of
our
activities
and
and
developed
different
projects.
They
make
the
presentation
at
a
conference
that
we
have
in
november
this
year,
is
it's
also
in
november
thursday
and
a
friday
in
november.
B
So
the
we
also
did
did
a
number
of
things
in
support
of
our
students,
seminars,
podcast
social
media
campaign,
to
to
attract
members.
We
supported
the
students
in
providing
the
technical
support
if
they
needed
logistical
support
when
before
the
pandemic,
when
they
wanted
to
have
events
on
campus
and
after
the
pandemic,
we
helped
them
with
speakers,
and
they,
even
I
think
david
boswell
was
kind
enough
to
help
him
with
with
some
some
of
the
events
that
they
had
in
terms
of
some
experiential
learning
activities.
B
We
wanted
to
make
sure
that
our
students
get
involved
in
in
something
very
innovative
and
when
the
former
ceo
of
binance
u.s,
was
willing
to
support
us
by
providing
actual
funding
in
in
the
students
wallets,
we
went
with
the
idea
of
creating
a
crypto
challenge
and
we
called
it.
The
hvcu
students
battled
for
the
kryptos
and
and
through
that
process
we
were
able
to
bring
in
in
the
first.
B
Catherine
coley,
who
was
the
ceo
at
that
time,
was
gracious
to
come
to
different
meetings.
These
are
all
virtual
and
actually
answered
questions
when
the
students
were
talking
about
their
how
to
form
their
portfolios
in
in
crypto
funds.
How
do
they?
What
sort
of
system
should
they
use
and
what
sort
of
the
the
ups
and
downs
of
using
one
compared
to
another
learning
how
to
use
and
maneuver
through
an
exchange
it
was,
was
very,
very
beneficial
to
the
students.
B
B
B
We
continue
offering
our
immersive
workshops,
boot
camps
and
other
learning
opportunities
for
our
students
and
faculty
and
staff,
and
we
want
to
also
build
a
sustainable
partnership
with
various
fintech
financial
companies,
government
agencies
and
and
others
who
are
interested
in
working
with
us
and
moving
our
goals
forward.
So
at
this
point
I
want
to
just
to
stop
and
see
if
there
are
any
questions
I
can
answer,
and
I
want
to
say
that
this
is.
This
is
a
growing
area
and
there
are
so
many
different
aspects
of
it
that
we
can.
B
We
can
focus
on
the
university
environment
or
the
higher
education
environment,
as
maybe
jeff
can
talk
to
that
from
from
the
ibm
perspective,
but
the
the
university
environment
moves
slowly
in
adopting
change
and
we
wanted.
The
whole
purpose
of
this
fintech
center
was
to
to
be
able
to
put
new
material
in
front
of
our
faculty
students
and
staff
as
soon
as
possible
and
get
them
interested
in
learning
and
integrating
and
incorporating
into
their
courses
and
their
curriculum.
B
A
C
Yes,
my
name
is
malik
armstead,
I'm
an
alumnus
of
morehouse
college
and
I've
recently
been
in
touch
with
for
professor
juliet
ilu,
the
head
of
the
business
department
there,
and
I
recently
had
a
big
speech
presentation
to
the
incoming
class
freshmen
and
sophomores
just
a
few
weeks
ago,
and
we
concluded
that
that
we
wanted
to
start
an
online
club
sometime
as
far
as
excuse
me,
this
fall.
So
I
would
love
to
know
how
could
potentially
collaborate
or
you
guys
can
support
us
and
launching
cryptocurrency
club.
B
B
C
B
Malik
for
that
question,
let
me
let
me
say
that
we
have
actually
supported
professor
ilo
on
a
paper
that
she
submitted
last
year
to
to
our
research
group
for
for
funding
and
for
for
support,
and
we
did
that
last
year.
She
is
a
great
person
to
work
with
and
we
would
be
very
happy
to
connect
with
you
so
feel,
free
to
email
me,
my
first
name,
ali
dot,
m-e-m-d-a-d.
B
At
morgan.edu
and
I'll
be
happy
to
connect
you
with
the
team
at
the
fintech
center
and
they
can
they
can
help
you
in
any
way
possible.
We,
our
goal,
is
to
help
students
and
situations
like
this.
When
you
want
to
get
started,
we
can
connect
you
with
our
with
our
club,
the
blockchain
club,
which,
by
the
way,
when
we
started
it,
was
only
a
few
people
that
were
showing
interest
in
it.
B
Now
we
have
close
to,
I
believe
there
I
was
told
that
about
60
students
have
joined
the
club
and
they're
actively
pursuing
different.
The
the
president
just
got
a
job
with
tito
price
and
left,
but
we
have
that's,
that's
the
nature
of
the
the
student
organizations.
New
leadership
is
gonna,
come
in
and
and
move
the
the
goals
forward
so
feel
free
to
contact
us.
C
Thank
you
and
I
will,
and
I
and
I
saw
that
you
guys
have
that
the
battle
of
the
kryptos
club.
I
did
discover
that
online
and
I
think
it
would
be
a
great
incentive
by
starting
a
club
in
the
fall
with
preparation,
trying
to
put
a
team
together
for
morehouse
to
come
in
and
try
to
take,
take
the
lead
or
or
when
on
the
top
places
in
the
20
22
spring.
So
thank
you
very
much
and
I
definitely
I
will
be
in
touch
absolutely.
E
B
E
I'm
doing
fine,
how
are
you
yeah,
I'm
good?
So
it's
it's
so
exciting
that
you
know
I
have
a
chance
to
join
your
talk
and
then
here
in
in
midwest
and
then
the
so,
so
it's
very
exciting
that
you
know
that
you
know
you
are
so
so
fast
in
terms
of,
like
you
know,
catching
up
the
speed
of
the
the
blockchain
along
with
the
hyperledger
communities,
and
here
I'm
I'm
teaching
mis
and
innovation
courses,
and
then
here
I'm
probably
the
first.
E
If
I'm
one
okay,
try
to
incorporate
blockchain
material
into
my
teaching,
for
example,
this
semester,
I'm
teaching
systems
and
medicine
design,
which
is
important,
important
mis
course
and
then
and
I'm
hoping
to
incorporate
project
into
my
teaching.
You
know,
however,
and
there
doesn't
seem
to
be
any
textbook
or
ready
material
available.
So
I
end
up.
I
I'm
sorry,
you
know
I'm
hoping!
I
hope
you
can
see
me,
but
my
camera
just
act
up.
Okay,
so
I'm
sorry
that
you
cannot
see
me
and
then
so
I
I
so
I
end
up.
E
E
Examples
you
know
like
in
a
trained
student
to
know
about
the
tenants
of
systems
and
design
and
then
so
and
also
I'm
now
working
on
the
new
research
agenda
regarding
the
different
kind
of
a
digital
asset
or
like,
or
here
now
the
the
doctor
of
mcfadden
in
the
expert.
You
know
for
applying
the
the
digital
currencies
into
the
entertainment
culture
or
show
business
and
so
forth,
and
so
I
see
there's
a
great
potential.
You
know
to
explore
the
potential
of
the
permissioned
chance
and
also
the
nft.
E
You
know
non-fundable
tokens,
you
know,
try
to
export
the
opportunity
as
well.
So
here
you
know
things
you
know
here
we
are
a
little
bit,
you
know
lagging
behind,
and
so
I'm
just
wondering
if
I
have
an
opportunity
to
join
your
group
and
then
to
exchange
materials
or
exchange
research
agendas
even
like
to
collaborate
with
you
or
you
with
your
faculty.
You
know
for
research.
B
Sure
sure,
michael,
if
you
check
the
chat,
you
see
my
email
I'll,
be
happy
to
connect
you
and
share
some
materials
with
you,
but
also
see
the
chat,
and
I
I
believe
david
must
have
posted
this
or
someone
else
at
hyper
ledger
that
there
are
several
areas
in
the
hyperledger
site
that
you
can.
You
can
actually
access
a
lot
of
information.
B
Yes,
and
but
in
addition
to
that,
for
a
specific
topics,
the
fintech
center
has
created
a
an
area.
We
can
share
that
with
you.
For
instance,
there
is
a
legal
aspect.
There
is
a
financial
aspect.
There
is
a
technical
aspect.
What
language
is?
What
coding?
What
all
of
these
things
articles
related
to
these
are
available,
that
we
will
be
happy
to
share
with
you.
E
A
Thanks,
michael
we've
got
three
contact
possibilities
already
in
the
chat.
If
that
helps
you
to
reach
out
afterwards,
I
put
my
email
there.
We
have
alize
and
also
judith
who's
the
program
coordinator
at
morgan
and
fintech
center.
So,
depending
on
your
needs
and
your
desires,
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
any
of
us.
We
have
here
a
question
from
eugene
who
I'm
presuming
as
a
student
eugene.
Maybe
you
could
say
where
you
are
because
that
might
help
to
answer
your
question,
which
is
how
to
join
this
student
club,
fantastic.
A
E
Yes
of
these,
oh
okay,
fantastic
and
then
so
david,
you
know
I
haven't,
sent
you
an
email
a
while
ago
and
then
thank
you
so
much
for
your
nice
word
and
then
it's
it's
it's
a
breeze.
I'm
really,
I
feel,
excited
to
connect
with
you
again
and
then
so
here
you
know
you
meet
with
us.
You
know
I'm
trying
to
start
from
the
ground
up
and
then
build
materials.
You
know
hire
students
to
join
the
project
and
then
export
in
a
research
project
and
then
to
call
authors
in
particular.
E
A
B
The
the
events
that
our
clubs,
our
club
at
morgan,
offers
the
the
events
are
open
to
other
hvcu
students,
okay,
and
we
a
lot
of
times
through
the
fintech
center
of
either
judy
or
tainisa.
One
of
one
of
the
two
program
coordinators
would
would
actually
reach
out
to
other
universities
to
participate
in
the
club
activities.
B
A
One
of
the
things
I'd
like
to
come
out
of
this.
This
conversation
is
for
more
people
to
reach
out
to
you
and
actually
be
involved,
so
we've
just
had
judith
posting
a
a
useful
link
for
both
instructors
and
students
regarding
an
upcoming
educational,
video
competition,
so
obviously,
no
matter
which
hbcu
campus,
you
have
happen
to
be
at
or
affiliated
with
that's
a
competition
in
which
you
can
take
part.
So
before
I
get
to
some
concrete
questions
about
what
people
are,
what
kind
of
people
would
be
your
best
collaborators
either
intellectually
or
professionally?
A
B
A
That,
okay,
sorry
yeah,
so
my
basic
question
was
before
I
ask
about
who
your
best
partners
might
be
for
future
collaboration
yeah?
How
is
before
I
get
to
that
one
foundational
question
might
be:
how
has
work
been
with
ibm
and
what
is
that?
How
has
that
helped
you,
and
how
has
it
helped
your
students.
B
Faculty
and
students
we
thought
about
reaching
out
to
the
to
the
group
from
the
hyperledger
community
that
has
an
interest
in
the
education
side,
presenting
and
explaining
the
the
technical
materials
to
the
faculty
and
students.
Okay,
that's
that's
one
side
of
it.
On
the
development
side,
we
would
love
to
have
some
discussions
with
the
community
hyperledger
community
members
developers,
for
instance,
in
developing
apps,
and
these
apps.
B
But
there
are,
there
are
other
use
cases
that
we
want
to
explore
and
we
want
to
be
able
to
create
the
use
case
so
that
we
can
share
with
the
hvcu
community
the
faculty
that
want
to
take
those
use
cases
to
their
classrooms
and
they
want
to
put
them
in
front
of
the
students.
Maybe
they
can.
These
students
can
follow
and
use
those
as
as
models
that
they
can
build
some
new
ones.
B
So
nft
right
now
is
top
of
mind.
A
lot
of
people
are
interested
in
learning
about
it,
so
creating
tokens
understanding
explaining
the
nft
environment
would
be
another
area
that
people
again
from
the
hyperledger
community
are
interested
in
that
in
terms
of
working
with
ibm
directly
in
any
of
these,
we
haven't
done
any
and-
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
we
we
will
not
do
any
collaborative
work.
There
are
some
opportunities
that
ibm
opened
up
to
all.
B
Hvcus
and
morgan
is
part
of
that
group
and
we're
hoping
that
we
can.
We
can
have
some
further
discussions
on
specific
projects
that
we
can
get
involved
in,
although
ibm
as
jeff
said,
there
are
skill,
building
kind
of
workshops
and
courses
that
they
offer
and
we
have
opened
those
actually
recommended
those
to
our
network
of
hvcus
that
they
should
participate.
Because
learning
is
learning,
you
know
you
have
to
show
interest
and
they
have
to
participate.
C
Well,
there's
several
aspects
of
the
word
work
here
within
our
global
university
programs.
We
run
eight
different
courses
free
for
transferring
technology
from
ibm
to
professors
when
they're
going
to
teach
the
courses
and
we
provide
all
the
material
and
even
the
online
exams
and
so
forth.
One
of
those
is
blockchain
of
those
eight
courses.
I
put
a
link
in
earlier
about
that.
C
C
He
was
the
dean
across,
I
think,
all
seven
other
campuses
and
he
asked
us
to
run
some
classes
just
for
people
in
southern
just
so
the
remote
learning
environment
was
more
collegial
because
everybody
already
knew
each
other.
I
I
know
you
mentioned.
Somebody
mentioned
the
chat
southern,
so
I
I
thought
it
would
bring
that
up.
I
mean
you
know,
there's
a
lot
of
effort
ibm
has
within
blockchain
on
on
the
commercial
side,
and
that's
also
why
it's
one
of
the
eight
areas
that
we
emphasize
in
our
global
university
programs
department.
A
Ali
one,
I
think
one
question
that
needs
to
be
asked
at
some
point
is:
what
do
your
students
want?
What
what
what
are
their
career
plans,
because,
obviously,
when
you're
speaking
about
such
a
broadly
applicable
technology
like
either
like
hyperledger
or
you
mentioned,
that
crypto
was
the
original
sort
of
spark
of
inspiration.
B
Well,
the
the
the
students,
whether
morgan
or
at
other
hvcus,
have
repeatedly
asked
for
material
that
they
can.
They
can
understand
and
learn
something
that
would
give
them
a
general
understanding
so
that
they
they
may
not
be
coders.
They
may
not
be
developers,
but
they
have
to
really
understand
what
this
technology
brings
to
the
table.
B
What
it
offers
and
understanding
of
that
is,
is
the
most
fundamental
thing
that
we
can
do
to
make
him
knowledgeable
and
not
necessarily
programmer
of
some
sort
but
knowledgeable.
When
we
talk
about
the
different
different
areas
of
the
the
space
from
blockchain
to
to
the
to
nfts
or
use
cases,
they
are
familiar
with
it
when
we
say
smart
contract,
they
understand
what
it
is
and
what
it
brings.
B
B
They
may
go
into
the
development
aspect
of
it,
the
the
technical
computer
science
and
is-
and
I
t
and
engineers
will
find
their
own
niche
and
the
the
more
you
know
business
types
find
their
own,
the
more
the
ones
that
are
more
centered
on
the
economic
theory.
They
may
find
their
own
tokenization
and
why
and
how
and
all
of
that,
so
it
is
the
you
know,
understanding
the
general
if
one
one
one
thing
that
we
can
do
when
students
at
hvcus
leave
or
at
any
university.
B
I
always
say
that
it's
you
know
the.
How
long
did
it
take
for
object,
orientation
to
become
known
and
accepted
or
4gls?
I
I'm
dating
myself
on
some
of
these
things,
but
to
become
accepted
for
many
many
many
years
we
focused
on
hierarchical
models,
for
instance.
How
long
did
it
take
from
the
change
from
one
language
to
another?
Now
there
are
so
many
different
languages
that
your
students
are
faced
with
and
learning
on
all
of
these
impossible.
B
But
if
you
give
them
the
fundamentals,
if
you
give
them
build
it
on
a
solid
foundation
that
they
understand
it,
then
they
become
more
interested
later
on.
When
they
are
working
at
a
jp,
morgan
chase
or
a
bank
of
america
or
some
other,
I'm
mentioning
these,
because
some
of
them
are
on
campus
visit
visiting
regularly
and
wanting
students
with
these
kind
of
backgrounds.
D
I
can
go
that'd
be
great
all
right,
so
I'm
chitavi,
I'm
excited
to
be
here.
Thank
you
for
inviting
me.
I
have
a
comment
and
a
question.
So
the
comment
is
just
basically
to
say
thank
you
for
the
work
you're
doing
and
the
ideas
and
the
just
getting
this
center
set
up
and
really
moving
towards
the
hbcus
and
specifically
for
the
space
of
the
minority
and
the
unbanked.
D
So
the
unbanks
are
big
space.
We've
been
looking
at
this
for
the
last
seven
years,
particularly
in
the
us,
but
comparatively
with
global,
with
a
global
view
of
what
others
were
doing
in
terms
of
one
bank,
then
what
can
be
done
to
advance
the
economics
of
the
unbanked
and
we're
doing
this
through
chicago
state
and
we're
doing
it
all
by
your
hands
and
they're
all
alone
outside
in
the
rain
and
cold.
So
it's
nice
to
see
that
the
other
people
thinking
about
the
same
things
and
doing
something
about
it.
D
So
thank
you,
but
then
the
question
I
have
is
related
to
the
sandbox
sandbox,
the
cftc
sunbox,
and
that's
why
I
found
this
conference
through
the
to
the
director
there.
She
posted
it
on
linkedin
and-
and
I
wanted
to
just
find
out
if
you
are
doing
anything
in
the
sandbox
or
if
you're
planning,
to
do
anything
in
the
sandbox.
B
We're
we're
opening
all
possibilities
to
our
member
universities
and
we
support
them
if,
if
you
are
at
an
hvcu
and
you
have
an
idea-
and
you
want
to
to
work
with
it-
we
want
to
support
you.
We
want
to
review
and
see
what
sort
of
impact
it's
going
to
have,
and
we
encourage
that
right
now,
we're
working
with
this
ex
company.
It's
a
company
that
develops.
B
So
the
the
pi
in
that
project
was
needing
some
some
assistance,
so
we
were
able
to
connect
them
with
the
company
that
provides
the
technical
assistance
and
help
with
the
development
process
we
are
now
all
of
us.
The
fintech
center
is
part
of
that
development
and
we're
working
on
a
proof
of
concept
for
that
use
case
that
we're
hoping
that
within
the
next
few
months,
it's
going
to
be
ready.
A
A
No
must
been
cross
lines.
What,
if
somebody
would
like
to
help,
it
would
appear
that
institutionally,
you
use
the
term
mentor.
So
obviously
we
have
a
guest
speaker,
but
the
next
stage
of
commitment
or
involvement
might
be
somebody
being
a
mentor.
Could
you
just
explain
that
term
a
little
bit
and
what
it
requires
in
terms
of
time
or
effort?
If
people
are
interested.
B
We
went
in
a
partnership
with
them
to
be
to
ask
them
to
be
mentors
to
our
faculty
when
they
want
to
develop
courses,
because
these
individuals
had
already
developed
courses
and
workshops,
and
they
were
familiar
with
the
with
the
ups
and
downs
and
and
do's
and
don'ts.
So
we
in
the
in
the
practitioner
community,
I
think
the
the
mentors
can
help
the
student
projects.
A
B
David,
you
you-
and
I
started
talking
about
this
because
of
the
interests
that
we
had.
We
have.
I
think
judy
mentioned
it
in
in
the
chat
that
we
have
a
competition
right
now
as
an
example
that
there
is
interest
in
the
media
aspect
of
things,
especially
at
least
in
this
respect,
the
social
media
and
how
we
can
use
the
video
as
a
medium
for
communicating
an
idea
in
in
a
short
burst
in
60
seconds.
B
Can
you
explain
a
concept
related
to
fintech
or
or
blockchain?
Can
you
explain
it
so
that
other
fellow
students
quickly
can
grasp
it
and
use
this
medium?
The
video
and
put
it
in
the
social
media
context,
so
there
is
a
on
a
on
a
practical
level.
That's
what
the
interest
is,
and
we
know
that
there
is
interest
in
learning
and
and
being
involved
now
as
an
industry.
B
They
express
the
same
thing
they
want.
They
want
the
students
to
be
knowledgeable
in
these
areas
and
if
we
can
connect
with
the
community
that
you're
involved
you're
chairing
this
special
interest
group,
it
would
be
fantastic.
It
would
be
very,
very
helpful
for
for
the
students
to
learn
and
be
involved
and
enjoy
that
network
that
you
have
created
so
that
they
can.
A
Actually,
just
as
I
was
about
to
say
thank
you
and
goodbye,
jim
jim
sinclair
here
in
the
chat
jumped
on
with
a
very
final
and
an
important
question,
which
is:
is
there
any
established
pipeline
to
recruit
these
students
so
once
you
know
once
they
finish
their
studies,
how
do
you
go
about
actually
advertising
their
skill
set?
Okay,
conversely,
how
much
much
have
you
been
contacted
by
industry
to
take
those
students?
Yes,
the.