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From YouTube: Hyperledger Career Fair 2022 - Part I
Description
A virtual meetup hosted by Hyperledger Denver. This initial session will provide insight into the Blockchain job market, What skills are needed for these positions. We will have an initial presentation around getting prepared, followed by a Panel Discussion around hiring in the blockchain space.
Panel Members from top hiring Blockchain companies, including Accenture and DTCC will discuss the skills required and the types of projects available within the blockchain space.
Panelists:
Christine Sanni - Sybal, CEO
Bill Izzo - DTCC, Director Information Technology Security
Tracy Kuhrt - Accenture, Associate Director, Blockchain and Multiparty Systems Architecture
Nicko Guyer - Kaleido, Senior Full Stack Engineer
Kamlesh Nagware - Snapper Future Tech, CTO
Valentijn den Braven - IntellectEU, Blockchain Business Development Manager
Topics include:
The demand for blockchain-related skills and roles.
How companies define roles and opportunities.
How candidates can build their skills, and brand for roles.
How candidates find companies that are hiring.
Note that this is a two part series. You're also welcome to join for part 2 of the Career Fair on Oct 26. Details about that event are at:
https://www.meetup.com/hyperledger-denver/events/288977081/
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A
A
B
To
you
thanks
John,
so
there
we
are
so
a
couple
of
things.
As
a
Linux
Foundation
meeting,
we
have
an
Anti-Trust
policy.
We
want
everybody
to
be
aware
of
so
sometimes
in
these
meetings
we
have
people
who
represent
organizations
who,
maybe
in
a
sense
in
competition
with
each
other,
and
it's
Our
intention
with
the
Linux
Foundation
that
any
event,
including
this
one,
would
not
violate
any
antitrust
laws
or
policies.
B
So,
if
you're
aware
of
any
way
in
which
your
participation
would
violate
those
antitrust
laws
or
regulations,
then
we
encourage
you
not
to
participate
in
the
meeting.
But
that
said,
there's
more
information
on
the
nhrust
policy
out
at
the
Linux
Foundation
address
here
and
then
code
of
conduct
is
always
very
important
to
the
Linux
Foundation
we're
an
open,
inclusive
community.
We
wanted
to
provide
a
hassle,
have
harassment-free
experience
for
everyone
for
all
participants
at
all
of
our
events,
whether
they're
in
person
or
virtual.
B
So
we
do
want
to
have
an
open
exchange
of
ideas
and
expressions,
but
we
require
that
the
environment
recognize
the
value
of
every
individual
and
group
and
that
we
want
to
be
sure
that
we
treat
each
other
with
respect
and
professionalism
at
all
times.
So
it's
fine
to
disagree
with
each
other,
but
let's
you
know,
do
it
in
a
professional
respectful
way.
That's
all.
We
ask
more
on
the
code
of
conduct
at
the
Linux
validation
site
as
well.
B
B
B
C
B
It's
like
my
keyboard's,
not
working
well
apologize
for
that,
but
some
basic
concepts
on
blockchain,
one
of
the
major
things
blockchain
is
offering
is
I'll
call
it
help
with
the
major
problem
that
basically
trust
fuels
the
world
today
period
and
so
I
use
the
slide.
Just
as
trust
yields
the
world
and
the
problem
is
we're
low
everywhere
and
Trust.
It
doesn't
matter
what
the
domain
is.
B
You
could
be
talking
about
relationships,
countries,
technology,
you
know
social
media,
anything
US,
Congress
and
trust
is
a
challenge
everywhere
today,
and
one
of
the
things
that
blockchain
can
help
with
is
automated
digital
trust.
It's
not
the
only
part
of
that
equation,
but
it's
it
offers
some
unique
capabilities.
Let's
put
it
that
way,
which
is
one
of
the
reasons
that
blockchain
is
of
interest
to
many
organizations
for
sure.
B
That
said,
the
concept
of
what
a
blockchain
is
just
briefly,
these
five
things,
sort
of
set
it
apart
compared
to
I'll
call
it
existing
solutions
that
are
out
there.
So
there
are
plenty
of
existing
ways
to
integrate
organizations,
data
and
operations
across
networks.
That's
not
new
at
all.
In
the
blockchain
space
we
call
it
DLT
as
well
for
distributed
Ledger
technology
they're,
similar
in
concept
not
so
different,
but
they're,
basically
about
trusted
shared
data
across
a
network
and
there's
five
characteristics.
B
I'll
say
that
are
common
to
all
blockchain
networks,
regardless
of
how
different
they
are
and
their
massive
differences
just
like
there
are
types
of
databases
or
any
or
programming
languages
as
well.
When
you
get
to
blockchain,
there's
some
basic
differences
across
all
of
them,
but
most
of
them
have
in
common
these
characteristics
that
you're
dealing
with
a
peer
Network,
there's
no
Central
manager
to
the
network.
It's
usually
a
peer
network
of
organizations
on
what
they
call
nodes.
B
If
I
have
permission
to
with
a
blockchain
you
can't
edit
or
change
or
delete
data,
you
can
only
add
new
data,
which
is
very
different
than
a
traditional
database.
The
other
thing
is
that,
in
a
sense,
this
Ledger
is
shared
across
the
network,
so
each
organization
that
hosts
a
note
on
the
network
will
have
its
own
copy
of
the
blockchain
and
that
blockchain
copy,
if
you
will,
is
synchronized
every
time,
I
add
a
transaction
as
part
of
a
block.
B
We
write
that
block
of
transactions
out
to
the
network
and
all
of
the
nodes
on
the
network
will
wind
up
adding
that
block
to
their
copy
of
the
shared
Ledger.
And
then
we
have
something
called
smart
contracts,
so
a
smart
contracts.
We
have
basically
a
what
I
call
secured
program
that
implements
a
contract
between
different
parties.
B
So
an
example
would
be
I
worked
on
an
auto
Marketplace
using
hyperledger
Fabric,
and
in
that
case
we
had
dealers
that
were
buying
and
selling
automobiles
new
automobiles
used,
automobiles
and
so
on,
and
in
that
model
we
implemented,
basically
the
sale
and
the
transfer
of
ownership
as
smart
contracts
on
the,
in
this
case,
the
fabric
blockchain
we
worked
on,
and
so
they
basically
write
transactions.
You
could
have
a
and
the
transactions
are
not
so
different
in
some
cases
than
traditional
transactions
you
do
maybe
on
an
Erp
system.
B
The
only
difference
is
that
their
these
transactions
are
in
a
sense
across
the
network,
in
a
sense
in
near
near
real
time.
I'll
say,
which
is
nice.
So
if
I
was
selling
a
car
and
my
car
Network
the
fact
that
John
bought
that
car
everybody
who's
connected
to
the
network
at
what,
through
whatever
node,
is
going
to
realize
as
soon
as
John
buys
the
car
that
that
car
is
no
longer
available.
B
That
transaction
has
gone
through,
it's
been
in
a
sense
approved
by
the
network
and
once
that
transaction
is
now
complete,
that
in
a
car
is
in
a
sense,
no
longer
available
for
sale
to
anybody
else
in
the
network.
So
it's
very
similar
to
traditional
systems,
except
for
the
fact
that
we
have
this
availability
of
I'll
call
it
current
state
for
everybody,
that's
connected
to
the
network
and
then
consensus.
What
is
that
about?
Well,
in
a
traditional
system,
we
have
transactions
that
we
just
write.
B
So
if
I
was
taking
an
order,
my
application
might
write
to
an
Oracle
database.
You
know
the
disorder
from
John
I
just
took
the
order,
and
now
I'm
posting
the
order
of
the
database
so
other
than
having
the
authority
to
write
that
transaction
theoracle
database
after
I
validate
it,
there's
really
nothing
else
needed,
but
in
a
blockchain
network
we're
saying
No.
B
This
is
more
of
a
decentralized
model
for
governance,
over
transactions
and
in
that
concept,
what
we
do
is
the
nodes
all
execute
their
copy
of
a
smart
contract
on
their
copy
of
the
shared
Ledger
and
so
who,
whatever
organizations
in
the
network,
are
responsible
by
policy
for
approving
or
validating.
If
you
will
or
endorsing
the
fact
that
that
transaction
is
valid,
those
organizations
collectively
will
do
that
and
that's
what
we
call
consensus.
B
So
they'll
come
back
and
say
either
this
transaction
is
approved
based
on
policy
or
it's
rejected,
based
on
policy
by
the
whole
network,
so
you're
getting
the
network
in
a
sense
to
make
that
decision,
not
one
single
node,
that's
a
difference,
and
then
the
last
thing
is
because
it
is
a
different
type
of
a
shared
network,
real
time
that
governance
services
are
really
really
important.
So
every
blockchain
implementation,
that's
out
there
will
Define
for
their
Network,
what's
appropriate
on
how
to
manage
that.
B
So
a
lot
of
the
platforms,
whether
it
be
Bitcoin
ethereum,
whatever
the
public
ones,
already
have
baked
in
governance
models.
For
that
when
you
take
a
I'll
call
it
a
permission.
Blockchain,
like
a
hyperledger
fabric,
if
you're
setting
up
your
own
version
of
that,
then
you
get
to
decide
the
governance
services
and,
if
not,
if
you're
joining,
say
a
fabric
Network
that
exists.
There's
again:
governance
Services
out
there.
So
the
concept
of
what
those
governance
services
are
and
how
you
manage.
B
B
We
have
the
identity,
it
says
an
application
developer
identity,
but
in
reality
it's
going
to
the
contract
is
going
to
be
deployed
onto
a
blockchain
network
and
here's
the
contract
on
the
network,
and
once
you
execute
the
contract,
which
is
here,
it'll
write
transactions
into
a
block
that
get
added
to
the
Ledger
here,
showing
you
the
blockchain
down
here
once
you've
written
a
transaction
and
the
block
is
completed.
What
you'll
come
back
with
most
blockchain
networks
will
return
back
the
status
on
the
transaction,
update
back
to
the
in
a
sense
application.
That's
sent
it.
B
The
important
thing
is
that
with
a
blockchain,
the
transactions
are
always
signed,
so
we
know
in
a
sense
who
is
the
in
a
sense
party
that
initiated
the
transaction?
Sometimes,
transactions
even
require
multiple
parties
to
sign
the
transaction
because
they're
digitally
signed.
We
can
identify
in
a
sense
who
initiated
that
transaction,
which
is
important
in
most
blockchain
solutions.
B
There's
also
the
concept
which
isn't
really
well
defined
normally,
but
we
have
logical
networks.
So
as
an
example,
most
of
us
can
get
onto
Facebook
or
Instagram
or
whatever
you
want
to
join
on
a
social
media.
Network
there's
lots
of
networks.
Many
of
them
are
public.
Many
are
private,
but
whatever
the
network
is,
there's
a
logical
Network
that
both
people
here
as
individuals
and
organizations
can
access
in
a
logical
network.
But
when
you
actually
look
at
any
blockchain
network,
you
say
yeah,
but
how's.
B
It
actually
implemented
well
down
here
in
Gray
I'm,
showing
this
conceptual
Network.
That's
in
this
dotted
green
circle
here.
My
particular
example
only
has
three
host
organizations
in
Gray,
so
this
is
an
unusual
Network.
There's
only
three
companies
hosting
my
blockchain.
If
you
notice
two
of
those
are
on
cloud
one,
maybe
that's
AWS,
maybe
Cloud
2
over
here
is
the
IBM
Cloud.
So
you
can
see
that
in
a
sense
in
a
blockchain
network,
the
physical
Network
I
could
have
multiple
organizations
even
in
different
clouds
that
are
all
connected
into
one
physical
Network.
B
Potentially,
on
top
of
that,
though,
I
have
a
logical
Network
and
what
that
means
is
logically.
I
can
have
lots
of
organizations,
even
individuals
that
can
participate
in
that
blockchain
network
based
on
how
it's
set
up
so
something
like
ethereum
or
Bitcoin,
or
public
networks
that
are
available
in
a
sense
for
anyone
to
access,
there's
other
ones
as
well,
that
are
public.
But
then
you
have
private
networks
as
well.
So
in
business
we
have
lots
of
private
networks
in
blockchain.
It's
not
hard
to
replicate
those
as
well.
B
B
B
You
know
they
probably
track
everything
I've
ever
done
through
a
browser.
So
the
deal
is
in
the
current
world.
Of
course,
Google
can
make
money
off
of
the
data
they
have
about
me,
but
I
don't
get
any
I
can't
participate
in
that
in
any
way.
At
least
they
give
me
some
controls.
I
can
go
into
Google
or
not
Google,
Google
and
I
can
go
into
some
of
the
other
networks.
B
You
know
social
media
ones
like
Facebook,
and
they
give
me
some
level
of
today
probably
ability
to
control
certain
preferences
about
what
data
is
shared
or
not,
but
a
lot
of
that
is
out
of
my
control.
If
you
read
the
terms
of
their
terms
of
use,
if
you
will,
but
what's
different
in
the
blockchain
world,
we're
saying
data
has
high
value.
In
fact,
trusted
data.
That's
been
verified
on
a
blockchain
network
with
can
what
we
also
say:
consent
management
is
a
very
big
Market
going
forward.
B
Is
this
notion
that
if
we
have
data,
that's
been
verified
and
trusted
and
the
right
parties
have
consented
to
a
certain
use
of
that
data
that
there's
actually
high
value
for
that
so
A
best
example
is
I
worked
with
Moby
on
mobility
and
we
were
looking
at
car
data
and
whether
it
be
accident
data
or
trip
data.
If
you
are
trying
to
issue
car
insurance
policies,
they
do
it
through
standard
underwriting
today
to
figure
out
what
standard
classes
or
risks
are.
B
But
if
you
can
get
live
data
from
a
vehicle
in
terms
of
who's
driving,
how
safe
is
the
driver?
Where
are
they
going?
What
kind
of
accidents
have
they
had?
What
kind
of
accidents
are
going
on
in
the
area?
Do
you
take
all
that
live
data
and
actually
use
that
you
could
actually
come
up
with
a
far
better
model
for
assessing
risk
as
an
insurance
company
when
John's
driving
around
Denver,
then
using
what
I
call
the
current
models
for
assigned
risk?
B
If
you
will
so
that
data
has
potentially
High
economic
value-
and
that's
just
one
example
of
you
know
quote
thousands
of
examples
like
that
so
anyway,
Annie
Martin
has
this
little
view
showing
you
a
network
where
we
have
a
blockchain
network
and
we're
getting
information.
In
this
case
about
a
buyer
and
a
seller
for
a
digital
asset,
we
say
calls
it
a
digital
twin,
but
you
can't
sell
physically
a
car
in
a
network.
B
You
have
to
sell
I'll
call
it
the
digital
twin
or
the
concept
of
what
that
car
is
the
identity
of
that
car.
Second,
though,
Andy
goes
on
to
Define
use
cases
for
blockchain
in
a
token
economy.
We
call
it
where
you
have
tokens
like
not
only
cryptocurrencies,
but
other
kinds
of
tokens
that
can
represent
any
asset
could
be.
A
piece
of
art
could
be
music
a
ticket
to
a
concert.
B
Those
can
all
be
represented
by
tokens,
electronic
tokens
or
digital
tokens
on
a
network,
and
so
you
can
trade,
these
digital
assets
as
tokens,
or
just
maybe,
trade.
The
rights
to
those
on
a
network
and
the
smart
contracts
enable
us
to,
in
a
sense,
Define
the
rules
of
how
those
assets
are
traded,
processed
and
so
on
between
parties
and
then
finally,
the
blockchain
becomes
that
shared
Ledger
of
trusted
data
and
source
of
the
truth,
because
we
know
you
can't
change
the
data
on
the
blockchain.
B
B
The
network
agrees
its
valid
data,
but
they
still
write
it
out
there
if
they,
if,
if
I
priced
you
know
whatever
in
order
for
John
wrong
as
long
as
it
follows
the
rules
of
the
smart
contract,
that
Network
would
write
that
transaction
out
there
I
would
have
to
issue
a
quote:
a
corrected
transaction
or
an
adjustment
or
full
credit
to
the
order
John
to
get
the
right
data
out
there.
So
it's
no
guarantee
that
the
source
date
is
perfect,
but
at
least
the
data.
A
B
Goes
out
there
we
know
is
shared
and
it
can't
be
changed
a
couple.
Other
things:
identity
is
evolving
and
in
the
world
we
started
off
here
on
the
left,
with
what
I
call
siled
identities,
which
is
usually
the
user
ID
and
password
for
security.
So
I
identify
myself
to
a
system.
They
say:
Jim
we're
going
to
enroll,
you
give
you
an
account
like
the
electric
company,
I
have
a
user
ID
and
a
password
I
can
log
in
there
and
manage
my
account
at
my
electric
company.
What's
different?
B
Is
we
have
this
thing
called
Federated
identity
based
on
oauth
architecture,
which
says
we
can
share
identities
that
might
be
accepted
by
different
organizations?
So
I
have
a
LinkedIn
identity.
I
have
a
Facebook
identity,
I
have
a
Google
account.
You
could
have
an
Apple
ID,
a
Samsung
ID.
You
can
have
lots
of
different
identities
from
these
I'll
call.
It
identity
providers
and
different
organizations
to
accept
those.
B
B
The
only
problem
is
I
wind
up
using
my
Facebook
ID
or
my
Google
account
or
or
Apple
ID
everywhere,
and
if
that
is
hacked
or
stolen
or
whatever
now,
instead
of
just
having
one
place
where
that
identity
has
been
compromised,
I
might
have
you
know:
30
40
50
in
100
different
places
that
have
access
to
that
shared
identity.
So
the
Federated
identity
model
was
convenient,
but
not
particularly
secure.
In
many
cases
it
added
more
risk.
We
now
have
a
new
thing,
called
self-sovereign
identity
as
an
architecture
and
blockchain
kind
of
fits
that
really
really
well.
B
There
are
some
examples
around
the
world
of
countries
that
have
started
implementing
blockchain,
with
self-sovereign
identity,
for
stronger
security,
cryptographic,
security,
better
digital
identity
and
so
on.
On
a
blockchain
best
example
of
some
of
the
places
in
Canada,
British
Columbia
Ontario,
some
of
the
other
provinces
up
there
have
done
a
lot
with
self-serving
identity
in
the
U.S,
the
state
of
Rhode
Island
actually
succeeded
in
completing
a
POC
with
self-sovereign
identity
and
they're
moving
into
production,
their
plan
to
start
a
production
project
on
that
in
2023
to
roll
it
out.
B
But
this
is
different
form
of
identity.
You
actually
hold
the
identity
yourself
in
a
digital
wallet.
The
government
doesn't
hold
the
identity,
you
do
what
they
do.
Is
they
issue
credentials?
So
if
I
had
my
own
self-sovereign
ID
I
get
a
credential
from
the
federal
government
that
says:
here's
your
Social
Security
credential
to
prove
that
I
have
a
Social
Security
number
same
thing.
With
a
bank
I
get
a
credential
there.
I
can
get
an
employment
credential.
All
of
those
credentials
in
effect,
earn
store
installed
in
your
digital
wallet,
which
you
think
can
easily
use.
B
B
I
can't
emphasize
enough
how
one
of
the
big
things
that
blockchain
brings
to
the
table
for
existing
Solutions
and
new
ones
is
the
concept
of
automating
digital
trust.
So,
in
this
little
simple
diagram
here
we
have
an
issuer.
In
this
case
it
might
be
Cornell
University
issue
a
diploma
I'm,
the
holder
in
green
I
have
a
diploma
from
Cornell.
B
B
It's
a
lot
easier
if
I,
whoops,
sorry,
if
I
have
a
digital
credential
and
in
the
digital
credential
from
Cornell
all
I
have
to
do
is
present
that
credential
from
my
wallet
consent
to
show
it
to
John
and
he's
the
verifier
in
the
lower
right
there
and
John
will
look
at
that
and
say:
okay,
your
your
college
degree
from
Cornell
has
been
verified
digitally
so,
if
John
and
his
company
trust
that
Cornell
is
a
valid
college
or
university.
If
they
have
that
trust
line
there,
then
John
will
say.
B
Yes,
this
is
a
valid
degree
from
Cornell,
and
so
that's
one
fact
about
you
that
we
had
verified
automatically
digitally.
So
that's
the
advantage
of
this
digital
verification
concept
and
Trust
last
thing
I
want
to
show
you
is
this
in
this
diagram.
This
is
not
a
physical
diagram
of
a
network,
it's
more
of
a
conceptual
diagram
to
say.
B
B
We
can
push
to
IBM
Cloud
AWS,
Azure,
Google,
Cloud,
on-premises
clouds,
other
clouds
and
so
on
on
the
bottom,
lots
of
different
places
to
deploy
blockchain
Solutions
but
I
have,
in
these
boxes,
lots
and
lots
of
different
types
of
software,
and
so
on,
not
even
looking
at
the
hardware
side
of
the
network
and
what
you
see
is
the
Box.
In
Orange,
there
was
a
hyperledger
fabric
blockchain
and
that
had
a
bunch
of
capabilities,
smart
Ledger,
distrib,
smart
contracts,
distributed
Ledger
and
a
bunch
of
other
features
that
are
part
of
fabric.
B
But
if
you
look
that
Orange
Box
isn't
the
only
box,
that's
the
blockchain.
Everything
else
is
other
software
and
other
network
components.
So
if
you
think
about
implementing
a
blockchain
solution,
the
blockchain
part
itself
is
really
in
that
Orange
Box,
whether
it's
hyperledger
fabric,
Corda
ethereum,
whatever
it
is
it's
in
The
Orange
Box.
B
If
you
will
so,
if
you
think
about
getting
a
job
in
blockchain,
if
somebody's
rolling
out
some
organization
or
a
group
of
organizations
is
rolling
out
a
new
blockchain
solution,
it's
not
just
The
Orange
Box,
where
there's
going
to
be
work
and
job
opportunities.
So
there's
I'll
put
job
opportunities
technically
across
every
one
of
those
boxes.
B
For
all
of
the
skill
sets
that
you
need
there,
on
top
of
which
there's
also
different
roles
in
blockchain
Solutions,
not
only
to
deploy
them
but
to
manage
them,
maintain
them
and
support
them.
So
if
you
think
about
that
life
cycle
of
rolling
out
a
blockchain
solution
and
look
at
all
of
the
stuff
that
goes
in
there,
blockchain
adds
to
it
doesn't
sort
of
take
away
from
what
existing
Technologies
are.
So
if
you
have
a
technology
background,
my
argument
is
going
to
be.
B
You
probably
already
have
skill
sets
that
are
useful
if
you've
been
managing
technology
or
supporting
it
or
operating
it.
You
also
probably
have
skill
sets
that
are
useful
to
people
in
the
blockchain
space.
Does
it
mean
you're,
an
expert
in
blockchain?
Not
at
all,
but
at
least
you
have
a
starting
point
that
says:
hey
wait,
a
minute
you
guys
are
looking
at
either
rolling
out
a
blockchain
solution
or
supporting
one
and
I
do
bring
something
to
the
table,
even
though
I
don't
know
anything
about
ethereum
or
quarter
or
whatever
the
blockchain
is
specifically.
B
So
in
that
sense,
you
really
want
to
build
upon
the
knowledge
you
already
have
as
a
starting
point.
And
yes,
it
would
be
great
if
we
all
learned
more
about
blockchain
and
that's
the
idea
of
some
of
the
resources
we'll
talk
about
later
so
John
I'm,
going
to
turn
it
back
to
you
to
talk
more
about
industry,
use
cases.
A
So
what
I
want
to
do
is
kind
of
just
do
a
little
overview
here
focused
on
you
know
both
hyperledger
projects
and
then
also
companies
that
are
here
to
present
and
get
on
the
panel
discussion.
What
they're
doing
in
the
space
and
I
think
it's
really
exciting
work
and
I
think
that
everyone
here
who
wants
to
get
into
blockchain
and
be
immersed
in
the
space,
there's
a
wealth
of
opportunity
and
I'll
just
kind
of
talk
about
some
of
these
projects.
A
That
I
think
would
be
relevant
to
you
if
you're
interested
in
getting
into
the
space
or
changing
jobs
within
space.
So
first
thing
I'm
going
to
do,
is
look
at
some
of
the
case,
studies
that
we
have
for
hyperledger,
so
there's
LACC
chain,
which
is
basically
using
hyperledger
bessu
to
create
the
largest
permission.
Public
blockchain
and
you
can
see
that's
for
government-
has
a
industry
Focus
and
it's
all
about
financial
inclusion
and
public
pick
and
what
I'll
do
is
as
we
move
along
here.
A
I'll
share
some
of
these
links
that
I'm
going
through
for
you
to
go
ahead
and
reference
later
on,
but
I
think
that's
a
great
project,
Hitachi
and
well-known
brand.
He
is
streamlining
their
procurement
and
they're
using
hyperledger
fabric.
So
those
who
are
you
know
immersed
in
the
community
know:
hyperledger
fabric
was
really
kind
of
the
core
kickoff
of
hyperledger
and
it's
you
know
really
going
into
another
long-term
version
now,
but
this
is
used
for
their
contracts
and
document
management.
A
Another
great
company,
that
is
a
well-known
brand,
is
Bosch
and
they
have
you
know
working
with
hyperledger
Labs
on
the
economy
of
things
and
looking
into
using
this
for
iot,
which
is
another
exciting
industry
vertical.
So
anyone
who's
interested
in
the
Internet
of
Things
and
how
blockchain
applies
to
iot.
A
A
A
A
A
A
We
got
hyperledger
fabric
here
for
Dubai,
and
then
Kiva
has
done
a
great
project
and
I'm
more
familiar
with
the
Kiva
project,
offering
Africa's
First
National
digital
decentralized
ID
system
and
they've
used
hyperledger
indie,
which
is
an
identity
platform
using
hyperledger
and
they're
doing
a
great
work
for
that.
So
that's
covering
financial
services
and
banking,
as
well
as
decentralized
ID,
Walmart
they've
been
an
early
adopter
of
hyperledger
as
well.
Everybody's
familiar
with
Walmart
and
they've
done
a
lot
with
their
supply
chain
and
focused
on
hyperledger
fabric.
A
So
you
know
a
few
years
ago
they
were
talking
about
tracking,
you
know
produce
on
their
hyperledger
fabric
instance,
and
that's
really
kind
of
grown
up
with
Hyper,
Leisure
and
Walmart
is
really
a
great
project
got
some
other
ones.
Here
we
got
insurance,
that's
something
that
we
haven't
really
talked
about
yet,
but
it's
a
great
way
of
using
blockchain
to
talk
more
about.
You
know:
how
do
we
pay
out
insurance?
How
do
we
ensure
that
whoever's
coming
to
get
it
claim
is
actually
insured
and
it
really
can
reduce
a
lot
of
the
overhead?
A
You
know
we
have
these
claims
adjusters
that
have
to
come
out,
but
there's
some
Innovations
around,
you
know
being
able
to
say:
okay
you're
in
a
designated
Disaster,
Area
Therefore.
Your
claim
is
valid
and
we're
going
to
issue
you
your
insurance
claim
via
blockchain
pharmaceutical
change.
This
is
another
one,
that's
right
for
innovation
and
making
sure
that
you
have
the
right
prescription
it
comes
through
and
we
have
all
the
provenance
for
it.
A
They've
done
something
with
the
National
Bank
of
Cambodia
and
they're
using
hyperledger
Roja.
So
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
projects
that
constitute
hyperledger.
It's
not
just
one
blockchain
there's
a
lot
of
different
projects
under
here
on
joystyle
did
around
document
management,
which
is
another
perfect
use
for
blockchain
and
data
privacy,
Mind
Tree
back
to
finance,
and
then
some
of
the
other
players
that
we
have
is
chain
yard.
They're,
focused
on
supply
chain
and
I
know
that
they're
also
interested
in
recruiting
as
well.
A
A
All
those
details
and
using
you
know,
hyperledger
project
is
the
way
to
really
have
the
best
provenance
for
those
type
of
high
quality
and
very
valuable
Aerospace
parts,
and
then
change
Healthcare,
another
great
one,
btp,
here's
one
that
Jim
talks
about,
which
is
great.
You
know,
British
Columbia
has
really
been
at
the
Forefront
of
adopting
hyperledger
indie
and
really
trying
to
promote
open
source
and
digital
identity
and
basically
really
trying
to
embrace
being
able
to
say
if
you
have
one
identity
with
British
Columbia
use
it
to
go
into
your
tax
account.
A
You
can
use
it
for
your
driver's
license
and
you
can
really
you
know,
begin
to
have
control
over
what
Jim
talked
about,
which
is
self-sovereign,
identity.
I.
Think
that's
one
of
the
great
use
cases
for
blockchain
is
you
know
you
control
your
identity
once
you've
established
it
and
then
who
has
access
to
it
and
what
part
do
they
have
access
to?
So
you
know
you
don't
have
to
give
them
everything
each
time
you
only
have
to
give
them
what's
relevant
to
that
certain
government
agency
and
needs
that
data.
A
Here's
another
look
at
Walmart.
We
already
talked
about
their
food
supply
chain.
That's
a
great
use
case
circular.
We
got
mining,
so
you
know
being
able
to
track
and
make
sure
that
there's
no
conflict,
minerals
for
supply
chain
and
really
to
know
where
you're
pulling
stuff
out
of
the
ground
is
done
in
the
right
Manner
and
in
the
right
location
without
conflict
scan
Trust,
here's
another
one,
National
Association
of
Realtors.
A
This
is
great.
There
you
can
see.
Real
real
estate
is
really
one
of
the
emerging
Tech
sectors
for
taking
advantage
of
blockchain
bars
is
another
one
using
it
for
financial
services,
and
then
you
know
so
many
Global
education
same
type
of
thing.
You
know
looking
at
what
is
your
credentials?
What
are
your
degrees?
A
How
do
we
share
those
securely
but
effectively
with
whoever
is
looking
to
hire
you,
and
you
know,
that's
something
as
we
move
forward
here
with
the
hiring
process
we're
talking
about
in
blockchain
space.
You
know,
maybe
these
companies
will
get
on
board
with
that,
and
you
know
look
to
adopt
some
of
these
Technologies
for
that.
A
A
A
You
know
post-trade
processing,
we've
done
things
with
both
hyperledger
and
ethereum
through
the
Enterprise,
ethereum,
Alliance
and
I.
Think
they've
also
worked
with
R3
Corda
on
projects
as
well,
but
they
definitely
you
know:
they're
settling
quadrillions
of
dollars
worth
of
stock
and
bond
transactions
and
they're
the
go-to
agency
to
do
that,
and
they
really
want
to
make
sure
that
going
forward.
They're,
you
know
set
up
for
the
21st
century
to
really
handle
those
transactions
Jim.
You
have
anything
specific.
You
want
to
actually.
B
Know
that
I
will
I
so
there's
a
bunch
of
like
a
lot
of
large
organizations.
Now
ours
is
heavily
focused
on.
We
have
all
large
companies,
I'll,
say
organizations
of
any
kind,
have
huge
digital
transformation
initiatives
going
on
to
try
to
shift
what
they're
doing
from
prior
systems,
I'll
call
it
web
100
or
web20
onto
newer
Technologies
and
so
on
and
newer
ways
of
doing
business,
newer
ways
of
integrating
with
everybody
and
more
accurate,
more
secure
all
that
stuff.
B
That
said
well,
we
work
with
I'll
call
it
a
lot
of
Service
Partners
to
get
our
Solutions
out
like
most
big
companies
do
so
actually
Accenture
is
one
of
the
major
partners
for
us.
So
we
just
completed
something
called
the
lithium
project,
which
was
with
Accenture,
actually
doing
the
coding
for
us
on
a
what
we
call
it.
It
was
a
digital
dollar
project.
So
if
you
think
about
Central
Bank
digital
currencies,
if
Federal
Reserve
in
the
U.S
is
asking
well,
what
would
that
look
like?
B
And
so
the
digital
dollar
project
that
Accenture
helped
found
is
trying
to
answer
that
question
for
different
use
cases,
and
so
when
they
came
to
security
settlement,
they
said.
Okay,
let's
talk
to
dtcc
and
see,
if
you
guys
can
do
a
project
which
we
did
called
project
lithium,
to
try
to
figure
out
how
that
works.
B
But
it's
a
common
thing
for
a
lot
of
these
bigger
organizations
now
to
say:
gee,
blockchain
figures
in
the
Technologies
we
need
and
we
need
people
that
can
help
us
deliver
those
projects
and
then
the
reverses
you
have
the
companies
like
Accenture
and
other
service
providers.
That
say
we
have
those
kind
of
skill
sets
and
they're
also
trying
to
grow
their
practices
as
well.
So
that
gives
you
a
little
flavor
how
that
worked.
A
Perfect
thanks
Jim
the
final
one
I
want
to
go
over
here
and
then
I'm
going
to
turn
it
over
to
Jim
is
going
to
be
collido
and
kaleido.
We
have
Nico
on
from
collido
and
they've
really
done
a
great
job
of
being
a
blockchain
as
a
service
infrastructure
provider
and
I've
had
the
pleasure
of
getting
on
with
the
hyperledger
Firefly
calls
and
hearing
the
great
presentations.
A
You
know
they
continue
to
upgrade
hyperledger
Firefly
as
well,
but
if
you
want
to
work
with
a
company
that
you
know
understands
how
to
deploy
blockchains
effectively,
and
you
want
to
focus
more
on
your
solution
than
really
trying
to
get
down
into
the
weeds
of
setting
up
your
entire
blockchain
infrastructure.
Collido
is
a
great
company
to
work
with
and
they
can
really
set
up
your
blockchain
ecosystem,
really
at
a
very
effective
cost
structure
and
very
quickly
as
well.
A
Okay,
that
sounds
perfect,
but
you
can
see
a
lot
of
these
great
companies
that
they
work
with
Citibank
Kroger
shell.
These
are
all
name
brand
companies,
Humana
worldwide
leg,
Foundation
T-Mobile
ing.
So
you
know
really
a
great
company
doing
wonderful
work
in
the
blockchain
space
and
definitely
a
great
supporter
of
Piper
Ledger
as
well
so
Jim
at
this
point,
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
turn
it
over
to
you.
B
B
C
B
I
guess
I'm
stuck
with
that
for
the
time
being,
so
this
is
what
we'll
build
yeah,
that's
what
I
don't
want
to
do
with
the
office.
Let
me
go
down
here,
okay,
so
a
couple
of
things
we
have,
first
of
all
the
panelists,
so
John
gave
a
quick
overview
of
who
the
panelists
are
Karen
or
Tony
can't
be
with
us
tonight
from
Michael
Ledger,
but
we
do
have
the
others
here.
B
First
I
want
to
give
each
of
the
panelists
a
shot
to
tell
us
a
little
bit
in
their
own
words,
what
they
focus
on
for
their
company.
In
a
sense,
where
does
the
company
Focus?
What
do
they
do
so
Christine?
If
you
want
to
leave
it
off
with
Sybil,
and
you
know
the
fact
that
your
CEO
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
civil
and
what
you're
doing
there.
B
Right
so
I'm
dtcc,
but
I'm
already
the
moderator
here
so
I'll
don't
have
to
work
as
a
panelist.
I
won't
be
double
DD
tonight,
but
dtcc
is
the
past
story.
Trust
in
Clearing,
Corporation
and
bill
is
director
of
Information
Technology
security,
I
work
in
the
DLT
space
for
them
and
they
have,
as
I
said,
a
lot
going
on
digital
transformation,
especially
in
the
finance
industry,
doing
all
kinds
of
projects
so
I'm
guessing
we
have
the
nature.
B
I,
don't
know
five
ten
projects
currently
in
blockchain
alone,
so
Tracy
I
want
to
hold
on
to
you
so
Tracy.
You
have
quote
an
extensive
background,
not
just
an
Accenture
but
tell
us
a
little
bit
about
your
background
and
specifically
Accenture,
which
is
probably
the
largest
organization
I
know
of
on
the
planet.
I,
don't
even
know,
I.
Think
and
I'll
make
this
up.
What
do
you
have
600
000
employees
or
something
second
to
Walmart
and
planet
Earth
or.
C
Something
like
that:
700
700,
000.,
okay,
hello,
all
Tracy,
Kurt
I-
do
work
for
Accenture
I
have
been
with
Accenture
since
2019,
but
I
got
my
start
in
blockchain.
Back
in
2015
at
PayPal
was
taking
a
look
at
the
IBM
open,
blockchain
platform
which
later
became
hyper
Ledger
fabric,
so
I
guess
I've
been
dealing
with
hyperledger
since
2015.
C
I
used
to
be
a
community
architect
for
hyperledger
for
a
couple
of
years
and
I
am
currently
the
technical
steering
committee
chair
of
hyperledger
foundation
at
Accenture.
I
am
part
of
our
metaverse
Continuum
business
group.
It's
I
am
specifically
focused
on
technology
architecture
and
specifically
with
a
focus
on
blockchain
decentralized
identity.
C
A
universal
wallets
things
of
those
nature
so
definitely
have
a
wide
kind
of
varied
background
in
the
different
sorts
of
blockchain
technologies
that
exist
out
there.
Not
only
hyperledger,
but
Accenture
is
very
much
technology
agnostic
and
focuses
on
a
number
of
different
blockchain
platforms
that
exist
out
there
so
happy
to
be
here
and
happy
to
discuss
as
we
go
through.
What
Accenture
is
working
on
and
and
how
you
might
get
involved
with
Accenture
as
a
potential
future
hire.
B
Great,
thank
you.
Tracy,
that's
awesome,
yeah
and
like
I,
say:
Accenture
is
just
enormous
in
terms
of
the
things
they're
focused
on
on
blockchain,
it's
it's
yeah.
We
could
do
I,
don't
know
two
or
three
days
on
just
briefly
going
through
all
of
the
work
they
do
in
that
space,
so
Nico
Guyer.
You
want
to
give
us
a
background
on
collido
yourself
and
what's
going
on
there.
D
Sure,
thanks
Jim
appreciate
it
yeah
my
name
is
Nico
Guyer
I'm,
a
full
stack,
senior
engineer
at
collido
and
collido
is,
is
a
really
cool
startup,
a
headquartered
in
Raleigh
North
Carolina.
We
also
just
recently
opened
an
office
in
Winchester
UK
as
well,
so
we're
growing
quickly.
We
have
quite
a
few
different
positions
open.
So
if
you're
looking
to
start
your
career
in
blockchain
I
would
love
to
talk
to
you,
but
yeah
just
a
little
bit
about
collido.
D
You
know:
John
did
a
great
job
introducing
it
a
minute
ago,
but
you
know
kaleidos
started
out
as
a
just
you
know,
blockchain
as
a
service
was
kind
of
our
our
core
product.
In
the
early
days
from
there
we
developed
a
really
robust
Consortium
as
a
service
product
as
well.
So
you
know
lots
of
different
companies
that
want
to
come
together
form
a
Consortium
and
use
blockchain
to
integrate.
We
provide
that
as
a
service.
D
We
also
will
oftentimes
work
with
the
Consortium
to
help
either
design
or
build
certain
applications
for
them
and
then,
through
the
Journey
of
building
many
of
these
Consortium
multi-party
networks,
we
just
we
saw
many
different
common
patterns
in
a
lot
of
the
the
different
networks
and
applications
that
we
were
building.
We
said
boy,
wouldn't
it
be
really
nice
if
there
was
an
open
source
platform
that
had
all
of
these
building
blocks
in
it?
These
patterns
that
we
keep
seeing
in
Project
after
project
that
was
a
common
that
we
could.
A
D
B
D
Collido
contributed
the
original
source
code
for
hyperledger
Firefly
to
the
foundation,
and
many
of
the
maintainers
are
our
employees
at
collido,
including
myself,
and
so
that's
what
I
do
day
to
day,
I
both
contribute
code
to
the
various
Firefly
repos
and
I'm.
Also,
the
open
source
Community
lead
for
Firefly
as
well
so
I
go
to
events
like
this
talk
to
a
lot
of
people
on
Discord
help
them
learn
about
Firefly
and
how
they
can
use
it,
and
that
sort
of
thing
so
I'm
really
glad
to
be
here
today,
thanks
yeah
thank.
B
B
So
when
I
go
to
work
with
companies
most
of
the
time
they
say
you
know,
it'd
really
be
great.
If
we
could
build
things
that
are
reusable
so
they're
always
talking
about
gee.
This
is
great.
Let's
build
something,
that's
reusable
and
it's
whatever
it
is.
They
invest
in
so
again,
I
walk
into
my
latest
company
dtcc
and
they're,
always
saying
yeah.
We
got
this
whole
system,
we
want
to
improve,
reuse
and
then
I,
say:
okay.
B
Well,
if
I
start
measuring
reuse
here,
why
don't
you
start
out
by
telling
me
what's
the
open
source
stuff,
you
reuse
and
they
go
what
I
said?
Well,
that's
where
I'm,
starting
from
what
didn't
you
have
to
pay
for
that
you
are
using
for
free
and
the
answer.
They
go.
Oh
okay,
well,
I!
Guess,
there's
a
few
things
and
I
said:
well,
maybe
that's
a
problem.
The
benefit
from
an
economic
perspective
is
when
you
go
to
some
place
like
hyperledger
lumens
foundation
in
Apache,
there's
plenty
of
other
ones
as
well.
B
And
so
you
tend
to
look
like
a
genius
they're
going.
Oh
gee
that
guy's
really
smart.
What
a
great
idea
so
I'll
call
it
with
open
source.
You
have
what
I
call
a
shopping
exercise.
The
other
side
of
it
is
I'm,
looking
at
Firefly
right
now
for
something
and
saying:
well,
okay,
if
we
want
to
use
Firefly,
they
have
this
model
that
has
interfaces
for
all
kinds
of
services.
Well,
if
we
want
to
use
something
that
Firefly
doesn't
provide
on
our
end
of
the,
we
could
create
an
adapter
for
that
interface.
A
B
Know
let
Nico's
team
decide
if
that's
useful
or
not
as
a
plug-in
if
it
is
incorporated,
if
it
is
it's
a
one-off,
but
that's
a
way
to
contribute
back
for,
in
a
sense,
all
the
savings
that
we
would
get
from
using
Frameworks
like
hyperledger
projects
and
Firefly,
and
so
on.
So
there's
a
whole
economic
model
there.
That
I,
don't
think,
is
advertised
well
enough.
So
anyway,
I
just
did
the
advertisement
for
that
all
right.
That
said,
the
format
we're
gonna
go
through
upload,
a
short
list
of
questions.
B
If
you
have
that
into
the
chat
and
John
will
take
care
of
making
sure
that
your
information
gets
distributed
to
all
the
companies,
so
the
first
question
I
have
and
I'll
start
Tracy
with
Accenture,
because
your
company
has
a
quote
a
broad
Focus
everywhere,
what
business
cases
and
Industry
Solutions
has
your
company
adopted
or
supported,
which
obviously
I
know
I
already
gave
the
answer
that
I
think
it's
a
three-day
answer,
but
I'll?
Let
you
take
a
crack
at
it.
C
C
So,
as
you
probably
are
all
aware,
Accenture
is
focused
on
our
clients
and
developing
the
solutions
that
they're
asking
for
in
the
the
business
cases
that
they're
asking
for
I
see
that
we
focused
pretty
much
on
the
identity,
space,
financial
services
and
supply
chain,
as
the
kind
of
industry
use
cases
as
John
was
mentioning
when
he
went
through
the
list.
So
we
have
obviously
a
number
of
different
sorts
of
solutions
that
exist
out
there.
We
did
contribute
as
well.
C
You
mentioned
a
couple
open
source
projects,
hyperledger
bevel
and
hyperledger
Cactus,
so
we've
contributed
focused
on
blockchain
employment
and
blockchain
interoperability
respectively.
But
you
know
really,
it
is
what
are
the
clients
looking
for
and
what
are
they
looking
to
do
and
how
we
find
that
it
really
falls
into
those
three
categories
of
identity,
financial
services
and
supply
chain.
B
A
B
D
Sure
yeah
so
a
lot
of
different
applications
in
production
today
in
a
bunch
of
different
Industries
I.
Quite
a
few
different
Consortium
networks
in
Industries
such
as
Healthcare
Finance
supply,
chain
insurance
and
there's
probably
a
few
that
I'm
forgetting
as
well
so
definitely
like
our
our
bread
and
butter
is
sort
of
these
Consortium
networks
and
lots
of
those
are
there's
new
ones
being
built
on
Firefly
now
and
we've
upgraded
some
of
the
old
ones
to
Firefly.
D
B
And,
of
course,
he
did
forget
one
so
I'm
going
to
pick
on
that
and
it's
a
swift,
cbdc
POC,
so
Swift
that
does
the
cross-border
payments
around
the
world
internationally
they
do.
Most
of
them
has
actually
used
a
colloidal
and
Firefly
to
build
out
one
of
those
Consortium
networks
for
testing,
cbdc
and
so
I'm,
actually
part
of
the
group.
That's
doing
that
kind
of
testing
right
now,
So
that
obviously
went
well
because
I'm
testing
it
and
I
can
tell
you
it
works.
B
So
that's
good
news
all
right
so
again,
Focus
back
to
hyperledger
Tracy
hit
on
this
a
little
bit
and,
as
you
know,
hyperledger
projects
and
other
blockchain
deployments.
What
are
you
using
and
why
and
Tracy
I'm
going
to
ask
you
to
start,
because
it's
not
just
that
I'm
sure
Accenture
uses
a
lot
of
these
projects.
The
reverse
of
it
is,
as
you
mentioned,
you
also
contribute
to
these
projects
as
well.
C
C
Exactly
I'm
not
going
to
try,
but
we
definitely
do
use
the
majority
I.
Think
of
the
different
hyperledger
projects
that
are
out
there
in
different
ways.
We
have
obviously
have
projects
that
use
fabric.
We
have
projects
that
use
Basu.
We
have
projects
that
use
Indie,
which
of
course
brings
in
Aries
and
Ursa.
C
Of
course
we
contribute
to
Bevel
and
Cactus
I
I
know
that
in
the
past
we
have
used
potentially
early
versions
of
firefly,
so
I
think
that
they're,
you
know
if
we
look
at
kind
of
the
different
hyperledger
projects,
there's
there's
a
number
of
different
deployments
that
we
have
We've
really
moved
into
what
I
would
say.
Production
type
deployments
at
this
point,
which
is
why
we
created
bevel,
which
was
to
allow
for
those
production
type
deployments
of
different
blockchain
networks.
C
As
I
mentioned,
we're
we're
technology
agnostic,
and
so
we
don't
focus
on
just
one
of
these
Technologies.
We
just
don't
focus
on
hyper
Ledger.
We
actually
Focus
across
the
board
on
a
number
of
different
sorts
of
blockchain
projects,
and
it
really
is,
you
know,
choosing
the
right
tool
for
the
right
job.
So
we
look
at
the
requirements
of
the
projects
that
are
coming
in
and
determine
what
the
right
platform
is
to
to
use.
B
E
Yeah
so
we're
specifically
looking
at
fabric-
and
we
are
looking
to
record
these
governance
components
to
directly
to
the
blockchain
and
provide
that
as
a
retrievable
data
source
for
for
our
clients,
so
we're
excited
about
you
know
what
blockchain
has
to
offer
in
that
particular
space
of
recording
our
use
case
for
blockchain
is
is
very
centralized.
It's
a
private
permission
based
a
little
bit
different
than
you
know
other
public
projects,
but
we're
excited
about
the
opportunity
to
provide
that
as
a
mechanism
for
recording
governance,
components,
yeah.
B
And
I'll
say
so:
I
know
you
use
hyperledger
fabric,
but
I'll
say
you
also
civil's
role.
If
you
think
about
a
network,
is
that
they're
called
a
level
two
service,
so
you
think
of
running
a
blockchain
network
or
any
kind
of
a
network
whatever
it
is,
doesn't
have
to
be
be
blockchain,
but
any
network
that
involves
managing
policies
and
governance
and
so
on
and
you'd
say.
Oh
I
could
use
civil
civil
as
a
governance
services
provider.
If
you
will
to
that
Network
at
a
level
too.
E
Yeah,
so
just
sort
of
going
off
of
that
the
layer
to
governance.
Typically,
what
you'll
find
within
an
organization
is
their
layer,
one
governance,
so
that
starts
with
the
policies
and
the
procedures
and
typically
includes
a
a
platform,
a
software,
what
we
call
GRC
tools,
your
governance,
risk
compliance
tools
that
are
assessing
risk
based
on
attestation,
where
we
are
different
and
where
we
sit
on
top
is
that
we
are
not
allowing
our
software
to
be
a
place
of
attestation.
E
B
D
D
D
B
If
you
will
the
concept
that
you
define
interfaces
for
all
the
services
in
effect
and
if
I
found
one
missing,
I
could
say:
gee
I
would
Implement
my
own
adapter
or
driver
for
that
interface,
and
then
I
have
the
opportunity,
as
I
said
earlier,
to
contribute
it
back
and
say:
hey
we
built
this
thing:
do
you
guys
have
an
interest
in
sharing
it?
You
know
as
part
of
the
Firefly
Network
or
not.
So
that's
a
pretty
cool
architecture
that
allows
for
things
to
grow,
which
I
really
like
anyway.
C
Yeah
so
at
Accenture,
I
already
put
in
the
the
links
for
all
of
the
different
career
pages
and
and
whatnot
that
we
have
so
we're
hiring
not
only
for
blockchain
but
also
for
metaverse
skills
as
well.
So
as
I
mentioned
I'm
part
of
our
metaverse
Continuum
business
group,
that's
focused
on
you
know
the
internet
of
place
and
the
internet
of
ownership.
C
So
if
we
look
at,
you
know
tell
your
XR
skills
that
would
kind
of
cover
the
internet
of
place
and
if
you
look
at
the
the
blockchain
digital
objects-
digital
identity,
digital
money,
right
that
that
would
be
more
focused
on
on
the
blockchain
space.
And
so
you
know
as
far
as
skills
across
the
board
right
it
doesn't
matter
if
you're,
a
technologist
or
if
you're
somebody
who
has
some
sales
experience
right.
Accenture
is
looking
to
fill
roles
within
the
organization,
and
so
you
know
I
think
it's.
It's
really
I.
C
Think
I
said
this
last
year
right!
It's
it's
really
up
to
you.
As
far
as
the
the
sort
of
thing
that
you're
interested
in
when
it
comes
to
the
type
of
work
that
you
would
want
to,
you
know
suggest
for
yourself
with
an
egg
Century
since
you're,
as
you
mentioned
right,
very
large
company
has
a
number
of
different
sorts
of
aspects
and
and
pieces
and
parts
that
that
kind
of
fit
in
together.
B
Excellent
yeah,
that's
great
and,
like
I,
said
Tracy's
right,
it's
Accenture
is
huge,
so
it's
not
just
their
organization
but
they're
connected
to
so
many
other
projects
around
the
world,
which
is
big
and
then
Christine,
I.
Think
in
your
case,
you
have
use
cases
that
you've
already
gone
through
I
guess
it's
civil
trying
to
figure
out
Solutions
these
different
problems
and
if
I
asked
you
to
say,
if
you
look
at
some
of
the
clients,
you've
been
working
with
hey.
E
Their
needs
we're
a
little
bit
different
in
that
we're
not
offering
blockchain
as
a
service.
We're
not
a
blockchain
as
a
service
organization.
Civil
again
is
very
specific
to
helping
entities
understand
how
well
they're
governing
and
measuring
that
and
providing
the
analytics
behind
that,
but
there's
so
many
different
organizations
and
I
think
for
those
that
are
in
the
audience
that
are
looking
to
get
into
blockchain
as
a
career.
I
think
to
your
point
earlier:
Jim:
it's
not
just
about
building
the
blockchain
itself
being
the
coder
and
developer
behind
it.
E
But
there
are
so
many
other
needs.
These
organizations
will
have
operating
it.
Managing
first
line
second
line
defense
of
it,
so
it
really
just
depends
depends
on
what
you're
passionate
about
I
think
that's,
really
an
important
component
Beyond.
Just
what
organization
you're
planning
to
apply
for?
Are
you
really
passionate
about
the
specific
area
that
you'll
go
into,
because
that
passion
will
lead
to
you
thinking
outside
of
the
box
and
continuing
to
develop
and
and
grow
that
specific
area
of
the
business?
That's
really
aligned
with
the
bigger
goal
of
the
organization.
D
Yeah,
absolutely
so
you
know
the
question:
what
what's
the
demand
for
blockchain
related
skills
and
roles,
100
of
our
roles,
all
of
our
roles,
whether
they're
engineering
or
designers
or
marketers,
they're,
all
related
to
blockchain.
So
collido
is
a
blockchain
company
cool.
We
have.
We
have
a
lot
of
different
roles
in
engineering
specifically,
and
you
know
I
think
one
of
the
I
I
won't
lead
into
the
next
question.
But
I
I
will
say
that
you
know
primarily
we
looked
when
we
are
looking
to
hire
Engineers.
D
We
look
for
great
Engineers,
first
and
foremost,
and
so
having
specific
industry
experience
in
in
a
in
a
blockchain
company
or
having
built
blockchain
projects
is
not
necessarily
a
prerequisite
for
for
all
of
our
roles,
some
of
them
it
might
be
there.
You
know
some
roles.
We
have
are
very
like
blockchain
engineer,
protocol
specific
those
you
probably
have
to
have
some
experience,
but
I'll
say
before
I
joined,
collido
I
had
not
done.
D
I
had
not
written
a
a
web
3
app
or
built
anything
on
a
blockchain
before
so
I've
done
a
lot
of
learning
on
the
job,
which
has
been
great
and
I've
loved.
It
but
yeah
the
the
need
is
there,
but
we
also
recognize
that
there's
not
a
it's.
It's
a
very
specialized
industry,
and
so
there's
there's
not
just
a
large
pool
of
very
experienced
blockchain
Engineers
that
are
out
there
that
show
up
up
every
day,
looking
for
a
job
at
collido.
So
primarily
we
look
for
for
great
engineers.
B
Yeah,
it's
a
phenomenal
point
because
it
I
guess
I'd
say
it's
the
opposite
of
the
Mainframe
CICS
kobold
Marketplace
today,
where
there's
a
lot
of
people
with
those
skill
sets,
many
of
them,
of
course,
are
retiring,
but
at
the
same
time
the
demand
is
going
down
fairly
rapidly
in
this
space,
because
blockchain
is
one
of
those
core
Technologies.
That's
in
high
demand
right
now,
the
shortage
of
blockchain
in
a
skilled,
blockchain
Engineers
leads
to
exactly
the
kind
of
situation
you
talk
about.
B
Where
companies
will
hire
you
and
say
hey,
you
know
what
you
bring
a
lot
to
the
table
already
you
just
don't
bring
that
piece.
We
figure.
You
can
learn
that
piece
and
that
gets
into
the
kind
of
resources.
We'll
talk
about
later
that
both
within
an
organization
like
Accenture
or
collido,
they
have
internal
training.
We
do
with
dtcc.
A
lot
of
companies
will
do
that
now,
but
outside
of
that,
there's
also
great
training.
B
So
if
I
want
to
learn
Firefly
or
some
other
hyperledger
project,
I
go
out
to
the
hyperledger
site
for
that
project
and
I
go
look
and
sure
enough,
there's
tutorials
on
starting
points
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff.
So
there's
a
lot
of
resources,
we'll
talk
about
that,
so
we
actually
hit
this
one
already
I.
Think
I
won't
repeat
the
question,
but
it's
just
what
roles
and
and
opportunities
has
your
company
find
I'll?
C
So
yeah
I
guess
potentially
they
I,
did
see
a
question
about
cdbc.
Yes,
we
do
cdbc,
we
found
it
helped
find
the
found
the
digital
dollar
project
we're
working
with
another,
a
number
of
central
banks
on
their
cdbc
projects.
So,
oh,
that's
definitely
in
space
right,
I,
I,
I
think
it's
very
difficult
for
me
to
list
all
of
the
different
types
of
opportunities
that
exist,
because
there
are
so
many
and
so
you'll,
probably
like
ask
me
a
question:
do
you
guys
do
this
and
I'll
be
like
yep?
C
B
B
E
D
B
Good
excellent
and
then
the
other
side
of
this
for
I'll
say
even
civil
who's,
newer
to
the
game,
but
I'll
say
certainly
Accenture
on
the
big
end
and
collido,
probably
in
the
middle,
all
of
the
client
companies
they
work
with
probably
need
help
too
on
a
lot
of
the
initiatives
they're
working
on.
So
it's
not
just
with
those
organizations
how
to
can,
from
your
point
of
view,
Tracy,
how
do
candidates
build
their
skills
for
blockchain
roles.
C
Think
it
doesn't
exists
out
there
that
the
Linux
Foundation
offers
there's
some
edx
courses
that
exist,
that
that
are
offered
looking
internally,
maybe
within
your
own
company,
depending
on
what
company
you
work
for,
they
may
actually
have
some
training,
material
and
training
courses
on
different
sorts
of
blockchain
roles.
I
know
at
Accenture
we
have
a
number
of
different
courses
focused
on
solidity
development
and
focused
on
important
development,
focused
on
basically
architecture,
blockchain
architecture,
and
you
know
the
trade-offs
that
exist
with
the
different
sorts
of
platforms
that
we
typically
work
with.
C
So
you
know,
I
I
think
that
there's
there's
a
misconception
potentially
and
I
could
see
the
one
question
about
a
good
way
for
a
developer
to
make
the
move
into
blockchain
like
if
you're
a
developer,
you've
got
the
skills
right
developing
for
other
applications
that
you
may
be
doing
now.
The
blockchain
piece
is
a
small
piece
of
an
overall
technology
architecture
that
exists
for
a
blockchain
project,
and
so
you
may
already
have
the
skills
available
to
get
involved
with
the
blockchain
project.
B
Yeah,
that's
an
awesome,
a
couple,
a
lot
of
awesome
points
there,
but
I'll
say
one
of
them.
Even
in
my
own
company,
when
I
started
DCC,
they
were
saying.
Oh,
we
have
these
learning
pads
Jim
for
DLT
and
blockchain.
It's
like
I
looked
at
it,
it's
like
okay.
So
why
do
we
build
these?
So
we
get
to
reinvent
the
wheel
award
because,
as
Tracy
said,
there's
a
lot
of
free
stuff
or
you
can
get
like
the
edx
courses.
That
Tracy
was
talking
about
that
hyperledger
supports.
B
If
you
want
a
certification
in
that
course,
you
pay
for
the
certification
which
is
relatively
affordable
for
sure
compared
to
normal
education.
But
if
you
just
want
to
get
the
skill
sets-
and
you
don't
worry
about
the
certification-
it's
free,
you
know
for
those
edx
courses
that
Linux
Foundation
supports,
and
that's
really
great.
B
But
when
you
look
at
the
blockchain
thing
and
I
go
back
to
that,
little
diagram
she's
right
that
there's
only
a
small
subset
of
people
either
setting
up
the
infrastructure
of
the
blockchain
or
writing
the
smart
contracts
and
that
the
bulk
of
what's
going
on
in
many
cases,
is
around
the
rest
of
it.
And
that's
exactly
the
value
proposition.
I
think
that
Firefly
is
trying
to
hit
say,
wait.
A
second
I
think
we
can
make
a
dent,
in
quote
all
of
that
other
stuff,
that
you're
spending
money
and
time
on.
B
D
D
Look
at
it,
like
every
industry
has
domain
specific
stuff
that
you
have
to
learn
like,
for
instance,
I
was
in
communication
before
I
moved
into
the
blockchain
world
and
sure
I
had
to
learn
all
the
Telecom
terms
and
how
SMS
messaging
works
and
how
VoIP
calls
get
established
and
all
that
stuff
that
was
great.
But
what
I
spent
most
of
my
time
doing
was
just
solving
big
engineering
problems
like
how
do
how
do
we
scale
this
web
service?
D
Make
it
reliable
make
it
you
know,
make
it
multi-tenant,
make
it
secure,
and
how
do
we
launch
this
new
product,
like
those
are
the
types
of
problems
that
you're
going
to
encounter
in
in
the
blockchain
world
as
well
sure
there's
the
domain
specific
stuff
of
like
well?
How
does
this
particular,
how
do
I
get
a
transaction
on
this
particular
chain?
D
Or
how
does
this
one
emit
events
or
how
do
I
write
a
smart
contract
for
for
this
type
of
chain,
you're
going
to
learn
those
and
and
like
Tracy
said,
if
you've
learned
a
programming
language
already,
it's
not
that
hard
to
pick
up
another
one
and
the
the
specific
tools
and
Technologies
and
domain
specific
stuff
are
like
you
can
pick
up.
But
you
know
really
like
solving
hard
software
engineering
problems.
B
Yeah
yeah,
and
so
that's
actually
a
great
point
because
I
I
know
in
my
own
world,
yeah
I.
Well
all
right,
so
I
apologize,
I'm,
probably
the
oldest
person
I
ever
know
that
still
codes,
which
is
actually
an
unfortunate.
An
unfortunate
part
of
my
background,
I
guess,
because
I
started
coding
before
Steve
Jobs
and
Bill
Gates
and
look
at
me.
I'm
still
coding.
Isn't
that
sad?
So
they
went
on
to
much
greater
success
than
I
have.
B
But
having
said
that,
what
I
look
at
is
people
I
know
who
are
not
in
the
space
of
actually
coding
but
back
to
Nico's
point.
They
are
brilliant
Engineers,
so
you
can
have
an
engine
believe
it
or
not.
You
can
have
a
great
engineering
mind
for
analyzing
problems,
defining
Solutions
constraints,
all
kinds
of
things.
If
you
think
that
way
in
a
sense,
you
usually
can
add
value
a
lot
of
those
people
don't
start
out
as
developers
at
all.
They
start
out
in
other
roles.
B
They
might
be
a
tester,
they
might
be
somebody
managing
requirements,
documentation
all
kinds
of
stuff,
maybe
even
a
a
scrum
master
or
even
a
project
owner
or
something
like
that.
But
at
the
end
of
the
day
they
slide
into
that
stuff
easily
because
they
have
the
mindset
for
it.
They
have
I'll
call
it
a
natural
affinity
and
a
passion,
as
Tracy
said
earlier,
for
that
kind
of
stuff
too.
So
there's
lots
of
ways
into
that
funding
roles.
B
One
other
thing
that's
a
little
unusual
and
that
actually
I
guess
this
Separates
Me
from
the
rest
of
the
what
I
call
crypto
world
in
the
crypto
world
you
hear
about
D5,
decentralized
finance
and
there's
no
regulations,
it's
all
Bitcoin,
it's
all
dark
money,
blah
blah
blah
blah
and
so
back
when
Bitcoin
was
first
starting.
That
was
the
attraction
is
like:
oh
yeah,
the
whole
world,
some
game
someday
going
to
involve
the
Bitcoin
and
while
Bitcoin
May
last
forever,
honestly,
because
there's
I
think
a
value
proposition
for
it.
B
That's
not
going
to
exactly
be
taken
away
by
other
cryptos
to
some
degree,
but
certainly
you
know
blockchain
as
a
Technologies
going
to
evolve
and
mature,
but
as
it
does
sort
of
the
value
space
of
Bitcoin
and
things
like
it,
cryptos
have
will
remain
in
some
flavor
or
fashion.
I
can't
predict
it
exactly
so
it's
not
going
to
go
away,
but
what
I
do
see
in
the
blockchain
space
since
I
started
back
in
2017.
B
Is
that
there's
a
massive
shift
that
blockchain
has
blown
up
as
value
propositions
in
all
kinds
of
use,
cases
and
industries?
And
while
that's
happening
at
the
same
time,
guess
what?
In
the
real
world,
we
have
regulation
compliance
and
governance
everywhere
and
what
actually
makes
the
things
work
is
the
fact
that
you
can
look
at
these
use
cases
and
say
gee
if
we
were
regulating
these
things,
they'd
be
more
widely
accepted.
So
Christine
actually
flip
it
to
you,
because
you
had
the
great
line
and
that
that
about
leaning
in
on
regulation.
E
It's
so
so
so
important
that
these
projects
are
very
focused
on
solving
a
big
problem
right
A
lot
of
it
has
to
do
as
you
highlight
it
in
the
financial
sector
and
in
bridging
a
lot
of
the
gaps
with
financial
services
and
access
to
those
financial
services
and
the
transparency
of
those
financial
services
and
offerings,
and
so
there's
a
requirement
that
there
must
be
a
preparation.
Proactive
measures
taken
to
have
strong
governance,
I
will
say
and
just
sort
of
level
set
and
say
code
is
not
governance.
E
E
Governance
again
goes
back
to.
How
are
you
protecting
the
consumer?
What
policies
are
in
place
that
set
the
rails
around?
What
should
or
should
not
happen,
and
then
the
active
measurement,
action
and
proof
of
Effectiveness
that
you
can
share
with
your
community
to
to
elevate
trust
across
the
operations
and
across
the
project,
and
so
when
we
look
at
what
are
the
challenges
perhaps
and
opportunities
that
are
created
when
you
are
thinking
about
governance
of
I'll?
E
First
start
with
the
challenges
of
just
like
we're
here
right
at
this
career,
fair
to
saying
how
do
we
get
into
to
blockchain
it's
very
similar
where
you
have
to
find
talent
that
focuses
solely
on
the
compliance
piece,
so
I
think
that
could
be
a
challenge
in
in
navigating
how
do
we
bring
in
the
right
Talent
that's
committed
to
the
project,
but
is
solely
focused
on
making
sure
this
project
serves
the
community
and
serves
it
well.
The
opportunity,
though,
is
you
getting
compliance
experts
into
this
industry?
E
The
regulation
is
coming,
it's,
it
needs
to
come,
but
I
think
there's,
there's
there's
a
requirement
to
create
that
peace
of
of
the
project
in
parallel
with
building
out
the
mechanism,
so
lots
of
opportunity,
I
think
that
that
will
bring
to
this
industry
and
rightfully
so,
as
we
are
working
directly
with
consumers,
it's
important
that
we
think
about
that.
That.
C
C
D
Yeah,
it's
a
it's
an
interesting
topic,
so
one
of
the
things
that
occurred
to
me
as
I
read
this
question
that
we
haven't
talked
a
lot
about
tonight.
Is
our
private,
blockchains
and
private
permission
chains
offer
both
a
unique
solution
and
and
and
I
guess,
opportunity
and
challenge
all
at
the
same
time.
But
you
know
most
most
of
us
and
I
I'm
speaking
for
myself
here
before
I
really
got
into
the
world
of
blockchain
per
se.
D
Just
like
didn't
even
know
about
private
blockchains,
just
I
always
thought
blockchains
were
only
public
and
like
everybody
could
could
see
it
and
anybody
can
can
do
transactions
on
them
and
it
turns
out
actually
for
for
Enterprise.
A
a
private
permission
chain
is,
can
be
a
really
compelling
thing
and
for
several
reasons,
one.
It
lets
the
the
Enterprise
or
a
Consortium
of
companies
Define
the
rules
around
governance,
and
so
they
can
they
get
to
make
the
rules
of
who
who's
allowed
to
do
transactions
on
this
chain.
D
You
know
Layer
Two
Chains
that
may
may
even
Bridge
a
gap
between
a
private
chain
and
public
changes,
all
kinds,
there's
a
whole
spectrum
of
like
public
and
private
chains
as
well,
so
I
would
say
that's
Pro
in
terms
of
challenges.
That's
probably
the
the
new
big
one
around.
This
is
like
okay,
when
we're
when
we
start
looking
at
doing
stuff
cross
chain,
how
does
that
change
the
game
and
there's
there's
all
kinds
of
new
opportunities
and
challenges
there
when
we
start
looking
it
up?
B
Like
travel
like
me,
traveling
to
Europe
doesn't
happen
a
lot,
but
across
Border
in
a
sense
or
across
jurisdiction,
happens
all
the
time
and
the
one
thing
I'll
say
you
know.
Just
if
you
wonder
where
your
tax
dollars
go,
is
that
the
world
I
think
thank
all
the
governments
in
the
world
for
wanting
to
make
the
world
more
complex
because
they
certainly
don't
the
net
thing
is
that
they
keep
adding
more
laws
every
year
in
every
jurisdiction,
so
I'm
on
the
European
blockchain
Observatory
in
form.
B
We
do
research
for
the
European
Council
on
how
they
put
up
new
laws
in
the
U.S
I'm
connected
to
a
lot
of
the
states
and
stuff,
and
the
work
they've
been
doing
to
implement
new
laws
around
blockchain
and
technology
and
privacy
all
kinds
of
areas.
And
so
what
you
recognize
is
the
legal
complexity
of
the
world
is
exploding.
I
mean
it's
not
quite
as
fast
as
covid
was,
but
it's
not
far
behind
in
terms
of
complexity,
and
then
you
say
well
how
do
I
effectively
manage
that?
B
You
cannot
handle
it
any
other
way,
but
in
a
sense
through
automated
digital
trust
and
Automation,
and
if
you
don't
automate,
nothing
in
a
sense
would
get
done.
They
talk
about
supply
chain
and
how
covet
showed
how
weak
supply
chain
links
were
well,
if
you
think
about,
in
a
sense
certain
Technologies,
blockchain
being
a
key
one
and
AI
another
and
some
of
the
other
ones
as
well.
B
Other
career
paths
might
be
lawyers
because
outside
of
blockchain,
we
certainly
have
more
regulations
going
on
everywhere
and
more
compliance
to
manage
so
there's
an
endless,
unfortunately,
I
guess
an
endless
and
growing
demand
for
compliance
and
regulation
for
sure,
and
so
that
does
lead
back
to
blockchain,
automation,
Ai
and
a
whole
bunch
of
other
technologies
that
can
help
address
that.
So
thank
you.
Everyone
for
that.
B
A
B
C
I
I
would
say,
bring
your
questions
right.
The
last
time
that
I
participated
in
this
and
and
we
had
the
kind
of
virtual
tables
it.
It
was
really
valuable
to
hear
the
questions
that
people
had
to
talk
through
the
specifics
of
what
it
is
that
they're
interested
in,
and
you
know
in
in
my
case
right.
What
Accenture
could
do
for
that
right
and-
and
you
know
just
be
curious,
I
think
is-
is
the
best
piece
of
advice
that
I
can
give
you
great.
E
E
If
you
are
disaligned
with
that
you
will
you
will,
if
you're,
if
you're
hired
there
or
if,
if
you
get
a
position
there,
it's
going
to
be
a
job
to
you
and
I.
Think
it's
so
important
with
the
climate
changing
with
hybrid
Workforce
model
that
you're
working
in
an
area
that
you'd
care
deeply
about
and
is,
is
part
of
a
much
bigger
goal,
bigger
picture
than
yourself
yeah.
B
Great
point
because
you're
right
everything
all
of
these
in
a
sense
organizations
operate
inside
of
communities
and
a
sort
of
a
context
and
it's
they're
adding
value
or
delivering
value,
hopefully
for
those
communities
in
those
contexts,
whatever
they
are
and
so
yeah.
If
you
you're
right,
if
you
align
with
those
or
value
those
problem
areas
and
want
to
see
them
solved,
then
you're
going
to
be
passionate
as
Tracy
had
said
earlier,
and
that's
a
lot
to
bring
to
the
table
that
you're
going
to
add
as
a
candidate.
D
Yeah,
but
both
really
great
thoughts
from
both
you
know
Tracy
and
Christine.
There
I
just
Echo
that
and
just
to
repeat
some
of
the
was
said
earlier
too.
You
know
don't
sell
yourself
short.
If
you,
you
may
not
think
that
you
are
qualified,
but
you
may
actually
be,
and
so
so,
as
Tracy
said,
be
curious,
ask
questions
and
you
know
have
that
conversation.
We
would
love
to
chat
with
you
about.
D
You
know
what
what
the
day-to-day
in
a
software
engineering
role
at
a
startup
working
in
as
a
blockchain
infrastructure
provider
is
actually
like.
You
know
that
sort
of
thing,
I
guess
one
one
other
suggestion
that
I'll
throw
out
there
too
hyperledger
has
a
great
Discord
server.
That
has
a
bunch
of
us
in
it
and,
if
you
think
of
you
know,
maybe
you
can't
make
the
next
session,
but
you
still
want
to
stay
in
touch
yes,
I'm
on
LinkedIn,
no
I,
don't
check
it,
frequently,
sorry,
but
I'm
on
Discord
every
day.
D
B
Thanks
actually
yeah
great
Point
Nico,
because
I
will
say
for
everybody
who's
listening
if
you're
interested
it
never
hurts
to
go
through
this
kind
of
a
process,
not
just
the
career
fair,
but
talking
to
these
companies
engaging
them,
as
you
can
see,
they're
all
interested
in
what
I
call
Outreach
and
looking
out
to
find
out
who's
out
there.
What
are
you
interested
in
and
how
can
we
find
what
I
call
matches
and
Alignment,
even
if
I
don't
want
if
I
go
through
that
process?
B
That
Tracy
was
talking
about
bring
my
questions
talk
to
people
at
Accenture.
If
nothing
happens
out
of
that
I'm
still
better
for
having
gone
through
the
process.
I've
learned
a
lot.
Let's
put
it
that
way.
Every
time
I've
gone
to
this
kind
of
a
process,
whether
it's
interviews
or
whatever
I
was
doing
I
did
come
back
learning.
A
lot
didn't
always
have
a
job
offer
at
the
other
end
of
the
day
and
I
wasn't
always
looking
for
that.
But
I
always
did
learn
a
lot
from
the
process.
B
So
I
would
encourage
you
all
to
think
you
know
about
that
second
session,
that's
coming
up,
because
that's
your
real
opportunity
to
go
one-on-one
and
start
asking.
You
know
questions
of
these
companies
and
get
some
real
feedback
and
some
thoughts
which
would
really
be
great.
So
all
right
that
said,
I
wanted
that's
the
end
of
the
questions
we
had
tonight.
I
do
want
to
open
up
briefly
just
for
any
q,
a
anything
that
anybody
has
that
I
didn't
or
we
didn't
cover
that.
You
want
to
ask
a
question
about
from
a
career
perspective.
B
So
yeah,
if
you
want
to
unmute
yourself
and
let
me
take
a
look
at
the
audience,
if
you
want
to
unmute
and
ask
a
question:
that's
fine
too,
if
not
I
do
at
the
end.
I
do
have
this
presentation.
John
and
I
are
both
going
to
put
our
presentations
up
on
the
YouTube
site,
where
the
recording
will
be
posted.
I
will
say:
I
appreciate
the
chat,
we'll
pull
the
references
out
of
the
chat
for
resources.
We
got
a
lot
of
good
ones
in
there.
I
know.
B
John
will
pull
those,
but
I
do
have
in
this
presentation
a
bunch
of
links
out
here.
The
Linux
Foundation
site,
there's
tons
of
projects
out
there
hyperledger
site
the
hyperledger
wiki
site,
where
all
the
work
groups
are
the
greenhouse
video.
That
sort
of
shows
you
what
hyperledger
is
about
with
all
the
projects
where
you
can
find
hyperledger
on
YouTube
the
global
forum
sessions
we
just
did
in
Dublin
hyperledger
is
nice
enough
to
push
those
all
out
there.
You
can
learn
a
lot
from
those.
We
have
meetup
groups
all
around
the
world.
B
You
know
David
Boswell
knows
I'm
sure
they
count,
but
I'm
I'll
say
it's
in
the
neighborhood
175
plus
groups
that
are
out
there
around
the
world.
So
there
probably
is
a
Meetup
Group
in
your
area
geographically
that
you
can
join
if
you're
interested,
but
we
do
a
lot
of
virtual
Meetup
stuff
now
after
covid
and
so
you're
really
welcome
to
join
meter
groups
anywhere.
B
You
want
in
the
world
there's
plenty
of
hyperledger
tutorials
and,
as
Tracy
said,
there's
not
just
tutorials
for
each
of
the
different
projects,
but
there's
actually
courses
that
Piper
Ledger
has
worked
with
Partners
to
put
out
on
the
edx
site
that
you
can
at
least
take
the
courses
free.
If
you
want
to
get
certified,
you
pay
for
the
certification
piece,
what
I
call
an
affordable
price?
B
At
least
the
courses
are
free,
so
I've
actually
taken
some
of
those
I've
paid
for
the
certification,
so
I've
taken
three
just
because
I
want
to
learn
the
stuff
and
then
there's
plenty
of
hyperledger
events
all
the
time.
So
all
of
those
are
resources
on
this
one
slide.
There's
if
you're
looking
at
other
things,
I
will
say:
one-on-one
blockchains
has
some
good
stuff.
That's
free
a
lot
of
good
free
content
out
there.
If
you
wanted
you
to
open
up
an
account
for
free,
you
don't
have
to.
B
They
have
courses
as
well,
but
you
don't
have
to
pay
for
their
certified
courses.
There's
plenty
of
good
free
content
out
there
as
well.
If
you're,
just
looking
for
basic
academic
stuff,
Khan
Academy
is
fine.
If
you're
looking
for
actually
coding
skills-
and
you
don't
have
money
to
pay
for
it-
a
free
code
Camp,
you
know
I've
participated
in
them
for
a
long
time.
I've
actually
contributed
over
there.
B
There
there's
plenty
of
other
code
camps
out
there,
but
this
particular
one
doesn't
charge
any
tuition.
So
it's
free
IBM
has
some
basic
information
out
on
their
site
on
what
is
blockchain
and
then
just
this
last
one
I
put
it
this
query:
when
you
click
it
I
know,
we
don't
have
12
000
people
on
call
tonight.
The
good
news
is
when
I
put
in
the
word,
blockchain
and
I
said.
Show
me:
jobs,
I
thought,
12
000
hits
tonight
on,
indeed
indeed.com.
B
So
I
can
say:
there's
more
jobs
out
there
in
blockchain
than
there
are
candidates
here
tonight.
For
sure
the
last
thing
I'll
say
is
I
got
some
other
things
out
here.
These
are
links.
One
of
them
is
IBM's
former
CEO
Jenny
rometti,
who
pointed
out
that
the
importance
of
a
college
degree
isn't
as
high
now
for
these
six-figure
jobs
in
what
they
call
New
collar
technology
space.
So
if
you
listen
to
what
Nico
was
talking
about,
you
know,
they're
not
saying
you
need
a
four-year
degree
from
Cornell.
You
know
to
qualify.
B
That
would
make
them
interested
in
wanting
to
engage
with
you
further,
but
you
know
they
weren't
saying
you
needed
a
four-year
degree
for
a
lot
of
this
stuff,
and
so
the
good
news,
that's
good
news
for
almost
everybody,
because
if
you
don't
need
a
college
degree
to
do
well
in
this
space,
it's
if
you
have
it
great
if
you're
going
to
invest
in
it
great,
but
it's
not
required
anymore
for
a
lot
of
the
roles
which
is
nice.
The
other
thing
we
talked
about
was
the
governance
issue.
B
Even
if
you're
not
going
to
work
in
blockchain,
be
a
security
engineer
to
me,
one
of
the
guaranteed
things
on
the
planet
that
will
always
grow
is
the
need
for
security
is
never
going
to
get
less
every
year.
It'll
only
increase,
so
there's
always
going
to
be
roles
in
that
space.
The
other
thing
we
talked
about
Christine
mentioned
at
leaning
into
regulation.
Just
this
week.
The
financial
stability
board,
which
is
the
financial
arm
for
the
G20
Nations,
that
sort
of
control
local
world's
Finance
pretty
much.
B
They
have
said
that
they
want
to
they're
proposing
directions
on
what
they
call:
governance,
rules
for
cryptocurrencies
and
digital
assets,
all
kinds
of
financial
assets,
and
so
regulations
going
up
not
down,
and
the
complexity
of
managing
and
administering
those
regulations
is
going
up
not
down,
and
then
the
last
thing
was
U.S
treasury
had
blacklisted
one
of
the
exchange,
crypto
exchanges,
claiming
that
they
were
violating
AML
rules
on
money
laundering,
and
so
that
was
an
extreme.
You
know
enforcement
action
by
the
U.S
treasury.
B
All
it
points
out
is
that,
in
a
sense,
the
ability
to
operate
free
of
Regulation
is
not
something
that
you
can
expect
to
see
much
of
in
the
future
going
forward.
So
those
are
just
some
upload
thoughts
out
there
as
well
and
there's
a
lot
more
resources,
but
I
think
that
I
called
this
thing
as
a
good
Gateway,
certainly
go
to
the
Accenture
site.
B
B
A
I
would
just
say:
Jim,
we
had
a
great
session
here
and
definitely
everyone
who
attended
this
session
should
definitely
attend
the
26th
session.
That's
when
we're
really
going
to
have
much
more
of
an
interactive
session
where
you
can
take
all
the
takeaways
from
this
event
and
apply
them
toward
really
getting
in
front
of
these
great
companies
and
interacting
with
them
on
a
one-to-one
basis.
So
we'll
have
virtual
tables
on
the
26th
it'll,
be
at
this
exact
same
time
as
this
session.
So
I
look
forward
to
seeing
everyone
on
the
26th.