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The first meeting in 2023 to kick off the year.
Agenda items:
-Survey Results
-Next steps
-Decide 2023 schedule of events
-Opportunities to get involved
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C
Big
Man
on
Campus
for
a
few
seconds.
Okay,
so
welcome
to
the
12th
of
January,
2023,
hyperledger
supply
chain
and
trade
Finance
special
interest
group.
Sorry,
we
got
going
a
little
bit
late
here
with
a
little
mix
up
for
once.
It
wasn't
us
so
we'll
get
that
straightened
out
for
the
next
time.
We
have
a
session
here,
thanks
for
joining
here,
either
live
or
and
listening
to
the
recording
here.
C
What
we
thought
we'd
do
today
between
myself,
Eric
Andrea,
we've
talked
a
couple
times
over
the
holidays
Alicia
when
she's
able
to
join
us
here
in
a
second,
we
put
out
a
survey.
What
was
it
right
before
Christmas
I
believe
to
try
to
gain
some
input
from
folks?
Where
should
we
should
go?
If
you
remember
back
in
when
was
it
I
guess,
early
December?
C
We
had
talked
about
what
what
get
trying
to
get
some
ideas
of
where,
where
we
could
add
value,
Beyond
webinars
in
the
new
year,
and
there
were
some
thoughts
around
use
cases
or
some
thoughts
around
governance
or
some
thoughts
around.
What
was
the
last
one
Eric
up
beautiful
you're,
going
right,
where
I'm
going
to
throw
it
to
you,
man,
that's
great
so
anyways
we
had.
We
had
this
little
survey.
Eric
put
it
together
here
using
fancy,
Zoho
technology
and
no
no
blockchain.
In
there
Eric
you're
on
mute
you're
on
mute,
Eric,
you're,
really
unmute.
D
C
B
C
18.,
okay,
that
that's
good,
so
in
just
in
the
interest
of
full
disclosure.
Here
we
had,
we
had
a
goal
of.
We
were
talking,
25
40,
but
you
know
the
reality.
Is
we
wanted
to
have
enough
responses
so
that
it
was
something
that
was
relevant
as
opposed
to
you
know?
We
got
three
people
responding
and
then
just
for
to
kind
of
give
you
numbers
got
107
people
that
are
on
the
Sig
mailing
list.
Obviously
we
have
want
to
get
more
people,
and
we
put
put
it
also
out
on
LinkedIn
I.
Think
Andrea.
C
C
Build
this
so
there
you
go
and
that
that
is
good,
so
we
so
we
have
a
lot
of
people,
especially
now
that
we're
getting
it
out.
Hopefully
we'll
get
some
more
responses
on
this
Eric.
You
want
to
take
us
through
what
we
have
so
far
here
and
I.
Don't
know
if
we
can
make
some
final
determinations
today,
but
let's
take
this
and
then
I
guess
what
makes
sense
to
me:
Eric
and
Andreas:
let's
go
around
the
horn
and
see
what
people's
thoughts
are
from
that.
What
do
we
take
away
from
it?.
B
Yeah,
so
on
screen
are
the
results
of
this
survey
that
we
put
out
a
bit
before
the
holidays
and
for
those
who
did
send
submit
an
answer.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
input.
It
is
all
about
the
community
right,
and
so
that's
what
we
wanted
to
do
is
reach
out
to
the
community
to
see
what
the
community
wanted
us
as
a
Sig
leadership.
B
I,
guess
you
want
to
call
us
or
the
save
you
a
bunch
of
clowns
here
but
to
to
work
on
and
to
focus
on
moving
forward
so
again
yeah
we
do.
We
did
get
a
bit
of
answers
and
we
threw
out
a
few
examples
or
a
few
suggestions,
but
not
limited
to
first
one
was
to
again
look
at
what
use
cases
were
out
there
so
either
working
on
a
specific
use
case
or
surveying
the
use
cases.
So
what
are
people
working
on?
Is
it
agree?
Is
it
traceability?
B
Is
it
the
trade
Finance?
Is
it
something
else?
A
second
so
suggestion
that
we
gave
was
governance,
best
practices.
I,
know,
Tom
is
very
much
involved
in
that
and
with
the
the
bad
news
about
trade
lens
and
sorry.
If
I'm
throwing
anybody
on
the
bus
here,
but
the
bad
news
that
trade
lens
was
closing
down,
we
wanted
to
look
at
governance.
It
was
that
was
it
a
governance
issue.
What
are
people
looking
at
at
in
the
governance?
B
Fear
of
Interest
out
there
and
the
third
was
standards.
A
lot
of
people
are
working
on
a
whole
bunch
of
different
standards,
I'm
involved
in
ISO
Tom's
involved
in
IEEE.
You
have
dsca,
you
have
gsbn
that
has
their
stuff.
You
have
a
whole
bunch
of
different
people
working
on
a
whole
bunch
of
different
standards.
So
how
do
you
reconcile
all
of
those
standards
as
it
relates
to
supply
chain
and
blockchain?
B
So
that
being
said,
most
people
and
yes,
you
could
vote
on
on
many
different
or
you
could
give
many
different
answers,
which
explains
these
numbers
here,
not
equaling
18,
but
most
people
want
to
work
with
65
on
governance.
The
other
one
is
second
place
is
use
cases
standards
and
we
had
a
couple
of
others
which
I
can
bring
up
on
screen
here,
emissions,
which
is
something
that
we
have
talked
about
in
the
past
for
sure
business
process.
B
C
Yeah
I
think
we.
If
we
got
3
000
people
we
can,
we
can
drive
it
out
a
little
bit
stronger
on
LinkedIn,
hopefully
yeah
you
know.
Maybe
if
we
got
3
000
I
think
getting
100
responses
would
actually
be
a
reasonable
goal.
I
mean
that
that
feels
to
me
I
mean
I'm
open
to
other
people,
but
we
gotta
I'm
glad
we
almost
got
20.,
let's
go
to
100
and
let's
see
what
we
get
yeah.
A
B
C
C
E
C
A
That,
oh
I
would
rather
say
Development
Bank
Jeff,
to
be
honest,
should
be
seeking
for
the
angios.
That
sounds
more
supply
chain
stuff.
But
if
you
want,
if
you
go,
if
you
want
to
glance
yeah,
it's
merely
Financial
stuff
development,
Banks,
very
good,
fit
and
I
think
if
you're
in
Washington
DC,
that
could
be
the
place.
C
Right
and
elsewhere
odd
Jeff
along
that
line.
This
is
Tom
Klein,
so
as
as
Eric
mentioned,
I'm
very
involved
in
governance,
I'm,
a
very
active
member
of
the
IEEE
p2145
blockchain
governance,
standard
committee
and
we've
come
out.
We've
finished
up
our
initial
set
of
work
and
we're
going
through
now
the
approval
process
with
inside
of
IEEE.
So
we
got
a
document.
That's
pretty
much
ready
to
go.
E
E
C
With
that
portion
now,
I
was
just
on
a
call
on
Tuesday
we're
looking
okay.
Where
can
we
apply
this
and
confirm
that
it
actually
has
has
some
validity
so
I?
We
there's
a
couple
people
that
are
on
the
committee,
a
professor
from
Tuskegee
Institute
and
a
guy
from
who
has
a
lot
of
experience
with
some
drug
Supply
chains
over
in
Basel,
the
three
of
us.
We
worked
on
a
a
reverse
Logistics
use
case
that
we
dreamed
up
basically
around
t-shirts,
and
you
know
how
do
you?
C
How
do
you
return
t-shirts?
So
you
end
up
basically
in
landfills
and
we
time
boxed
it.
We
didn't
build,
build
it
out
a
whole
way,
but
basically
build
out
a
take
to
the
use
case
and
try
to
apply
blockchain
governance,
our
standard
to
it.
Now
we
also
would
like
to
do
that
to
examples
where
blockchain
governance
maybe
was
already
done.
C
It
could
be
the
trade
lens
example,
as
you
know
something
you
know
the
counter
factual
right
that
didn't
quite
work
out
for
whatever
reason
or
it's
ASX
or
what
whatever
out
there
or
ones
that
actually
did
work
out.
So
the
group
at
IEEE,
when
we
were
on
a
call
on
Tuesday
I,
mentioned
that
we're
looking
for
you
know.
Governance
is
one
of
the
things
that
may
be
of
interest,
and
so
the
offer
from
that
group
at
IEEE
is
to
work
together
with
us.
C
C
D
C
C
C
And
I
guess
I'll
add
one
other
thing
here.
Unfortunately,
Enterprise
blockchain,
the
the
the
words,
haven't,
been
very
positive
in
the
media.
Recently
yeah
every
day,
I
get
a
I
get
a
new
one
in
my
Google
alert
that
I
have
set
for
blockchain,
you
know
about
it,
hey
you
know,
trade
lens
didn't
happen.
If
everyone's
kind
of
forgotten
about
we
dot
trade,
Etc,
there's
still
positive
things
going
out
there,
we
just
gotta
fare
it
ferret
it
out
and
I'll.
C
Tell
you
on
the
governance
thing,
the
biggest
thing
we
we
can
figure
out
or
we
could
bring
the
table
as
how
does
governance
be
a
catalyst
because
gutter,
governance
and
Sofia,
you
might
be
able
to
say
this
or
maybe
not
you
know,
governance
is
usually
after
the
fact,
as
opposed
to
how
does
it?
How
do
you
use
it
to
actually
get
a
blockchain
project
going
there?
C
F
F
F
Indeed,
but
the
we
we
will
I
as
far
as
I
understand,
depending
on
my
experience
that
we
will,
we
will
still
rely
the
our
today's
world's
tools
for
the
coming
periods.
That's
why
we
are
in
the
between
the
two
periods
and
the,
but
still
we
need
to
make
the
some
kind
of
the
constant
Bridges
between
the
these
two
worlds.
F
C
Thanks
ion
so
so
my
takeaway
from
that
is
try
to.
If
we,
if
we
go,
do
go
down
the
use
case
path,
try
to
have
something
that
has
both
flavors
the
supply
chain,
actually
moving
the
physical
Goods
as
well
as
the
money
that
gets
moved
with
it
all
right.
Thank
you
right.
Okay,
good,
let's
see
who
else
is
on
here?
D
D
D
D
D
G
C
D
C
G
I
mean
there's
plenty
going
on,
but
there's
not
enough
talk
about
it.
In
my
opinion
and
just
hearing
the
challenges
that
organizations
are
going
through
with
making
blockchain
systems
a
reality
with
with
really
implementing
the
technology
into
their
Solutions,
regardless
of
of
the
application,
I'd
love
to
find
out
some
more
just
know.
What's
going
on
across
the
industry,.
C
G
G
G
B
C
Right
interesting
enough,
probably
two
years
ago
it
was
right
after
I
started
joining
this.
This
crowd
got
involved.
We
did
a
EDI
in
blockchain
session.
We
had
a
couple
companies
that
had
done
some
work
in
that
area
on
it
and
like
maybe
what
I'll
do
is
I'll
I'll
I'll
put
that
link
if
it's
still
out
there
I'll
put
it
in
the
wiki
for
people
to
look
at
and
then
maybe
we
could
have
an
updated
session
on
that
I
kind
of
like
that
idea.
Eric
and
Sophia.
C
Oh
no,
oh
no
one
other
thought
here
interesting.
You
say
you
know,
Sophia
about
you,
know,
blockchain
and
how
to
get
started
and
everything.
That's
one
of
the
things
that
really
got
me
going
in
governance
because
I'm
like
okay,
why
aren't
these
projects
taken
off
as
quickly
and
as
easily
probably
easily
is
probably
more
part
of
it
as
they
should
and
the
conclusion
I
came
to
at
the
time
and
what
got
me
involved
with
governance?
Is
that
all
the
governance?
How
do
you
work
together?
There
wasn't
a
good
process
to
do
that.
C
It
was
kind
of
hey.
Let's
get
together
in
a
room,
let's
figure
out.
If
we
can
do
something
here
and
it
felt
like
putting
some
structure
around,
how
do
you
get
started
would
be
very
effective
and
helpful
to
maybe
you
know
not
have
so.
Let's
take
ASX
and
Soviet
from
ASX
is
on
the
call
here.
You
know
Australian
stock
exchange.
They
started
changing
out
their.
They
said.
G
C
We're
going
to
use
blockchain
and
we're
going
to
do
settlement
and
clearing
system
new
one,
and
when
people
figured
out
what
was
going
to
happen
and
they
might
lose
Revenue
et
cetera,
Etc.
All
of
a
sudden,
all
the
people
come
out
of
the
woodwork
and
say
no,
you
shouldn't
be
doing
this
and
ultimately
the
project
died
just
to
hear
at
the
end
of
the
year.
C
So
an
example
of
if
they
have
involved
people
earlier,
they
probably
they
may
not
have
had
quite
the
same
amount
of
Knives
Out
for
themselves
as
they
went
along
I'm
sure
they've
made
some
mistakes
like
every
project
does
along
the
way,
but
that,
just
to
back
to
my
Catalyst
statement,
why
governance
I
got
involved
in
that.
So
let's
go
on
here,
who
did
I,
say
next
I
think
I
said
Michael
next
I
think
you
did
as
well
I'm
ready
ready
to
roll,
and
if
you
look
up.
H
C
So
if
you
look
at
this
Eric
Michael
close
to
his
heart
there,
where
it
says
ISO,
8,
000,
119
for
a
transportation
unit,
ID
Michael
that
that's
his
life
there,
so
Michael
well,
I
just
wanted
to
call
out
so
that
you
know
what
Michael
is
interested
in
and
you
can
contact
him
afterwards,
but
also
Michael
will
let
you
share
based
on
what
you
see
here
on
the
projects
and
what
we're
talking
about
here.
Well,.
H
E
I
am
Jeff,
so
I've,
even
coded
blockchain's
ethereum
using
solidity,
so
yeah
I
know
the
technical
aspects
of
blockchain,
but
even
before
I
get
to
it.
I'm
sure
Tom
probably
knows
a
lot
of
blockchain
projects,
the
failure,
I,
don't
know.
If
it's
technology
or
if
it's
politics,
politics
should
be
taught
on
a
blockchain,
especially
at
the
permissioned
ones.
Right.
H
The
collaborative
governance
model
where
votes
and
working
groups
and
steering
committees
are
built
inside
of
a
platform
as
a
service,
and
we
basically
built
it
as
an
Ubuntu
instance
that
allows
for
deployment
in
a
cloud
environment
of
any
flavor
and
can
basically
flow
connections
of
data
of
hashes.
Of
of
what
we
call
tuids
those
transport
unit,
identifiers
amongst
the
parties
that
have
deployed
one
of
these
networked
Solutions
and
it's
very
much
like
hyperledger
and
and
blockchain,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
have
where
everybody
stores
a
copy
of
the
full
set
of
the
data.
H
H
They
all
share
the
ownership
of
it
because
of
the
fact
that
they're
all
pumping
the
same
thing
through
it
and
how
many
gallons
of
it
you
got
is
how
many
gallons
you
got,
but
they
share
the
expense
and
forming
that
sort
of
an
entity
that
can
be
owned
by
the
industry.
That
has
a
project
plan
that
identifies
the
industry.
Participants
are
engaged
and
vested
and
bought
in
that's
what
it's
going
to
take
for
projects
in
blockchain.
H
To
be
successful,
I
mean
one
of
my
first
project
management
books
was
the
Harvard
Business
School
managing
projects,
big
and
small,
and
it's
it's
a
40-page
book,
but
it's
a
reference
Manual
of.
If
you
don't
do
the
homework
and
identify
who
the
champions
of
the
project
are
and
who
the
stakeholders
of
the
project
are
and
what
the
defined
outcomes
of
the
project
are.
Then
it's
difficult
to
be
able
to
build
feedback
loops
that
are
meaningful
and
I.
H
Think
in
today's
world
we
really
need
to
get
to
the
the
human
experience
of
being
able
to
have
a
social
I
can
update
the
information
when
it's
convenient
for
me
to
be
able
to
do
in
a
platform,
but
that
my
voice
is
also
heard
and
my
confidential
information
is
protected
and
there
needs
to
be
a
buffer
kind
of
on
both
sides.
So
my
just
one
last
minute
and
then
I'll
kind
of
shut
up
and
open
for
feedback,
but
the
piece
that
we
built
with
this
Ubuntu
environment.
H
We
called
the
anonymizer
because
it
has
a
translation
layer
that
basically
allows
for
the
governance
to
establish
what
the
language
for
the
canonical
is,
and
then
the
parties
to
be
able
to
just
write
an
interface
to
that
canonical
and
from
that
canonical
and
not
have
to
really
put
all
of
their
data
any
place
just
simply
to
be
able
to
label
it
in
a
consistent
way.
So
that,
from
the
bill
of
lading
from
the
purchase
order,
we
can
extract
the
unique
identifiers.
C
H
H
You
you
guys
are
are
really
right
sniffing
around
the
right
things.
There's
you,
you
really
are
you're
looking
for
how
to
establish
what
a
meaningful
project
is
to
be
able
to
do,
and
that
requires
the
governance
and
the
use
cases
and
the
governance
in
the
use
cases
are
are
where
the
foundation
for
project
successes
take
place.
So
those
were
the
two
places
that
that
I
voted
on
I
think
they're.
H
4
but
when
hyperledger
jumped
to
2.0
from
1.4
it
was
a
disconnect
and
my
team
kind
of
of
separated
from
from
that
work.
So
I
I
got
a
little
frustrated
with
the
hyperledger
side,
but
have
always
stayed
engaged
with
you
know
it's
it's
a
cycle.
You
learn,
and
sometimes
you
sometimes
the
plane
crashes
and
you
got
to
put
the
pieces
back
together
and
take
off
again.
E
H
H
C
H
Where
you
basically
just
say,
here's
the
recipe
to
be
able
to
make
a
tuid.
We
all
have
the
same
information
for
it.
We
just
don't
have
a
standard
way
to
format
it
so
that
it's
in
a
sequence
that
everybody
who
knows
what
the
sequence
is
can
say.
Well,
that's
the
origin,
that's
the
destination,
that's
the
status,
and
this
is
who
it's
assigned
to,
but
we've
never
really
defined
that
and
that's
what
we
were.
We
have
been
working
on
on
the
iso
8000
side.
H
C
E
So
I'm
actually
located
in
Chicago,
so
I'm
in
the
federal
Chicago
Branch,
not
DC,
so
I
worked
in
the
oil
industry
for
decades.
Also,
all
all
aspects
of
it
and
so
I
was
there
a
long
long
time
with
a
very
big,
very
one
of
the
big
Majors,
the
giant
majors,
and
so
my
last
20
some
years.
There
was
all
on
I.T
but
I
just
sent
me
back
to
school
to
get
an
I.T
degree,
but
probably
the
last
five.
E
Six
years
we
started
looking
at
blockchains,
and
so
the
blockchains
were
focused
on
really.
What
kind
of
this
was
a
use
case
around
material
movement
globally,
and
so
that
is
a
very
complex
part
of
the
yellow
drilling
business.
When
you're
talking
offshore
when
you're
moving
Parts
Source
parts
around
the
world,
we
looked
at
hyperledger
because
the
chain
code
inside
it
put
some
government
rules
in
there
around
imports
and
exports
very
tough
to
do
when
you're,
putting
up
a
10
billion
dollar
offshore.
Well
somewhere,
let's
say
Angola.
E
E
E
E
But
when
you
have
permission
on
the
blockchains,
where
crypto
doesn't
come
into
play,
I
don't
understand
the
the
fretting
around
it
or
people
steering
away
from
being
scared,
I
mean
you
put
up
a
traditional
database
I
find
that
much
more
complex
than
putting
up
a
blockchain,
but
so
being
yeah.
I
just
think
blockchain
is
still
an
Elixir
for
a
lot
of
people.
I
was
offered
less
than
a
year
ago
to
be
the
NFL's
blockchain
strategy
developer
working
with
the
the
president
of
the
NFL.
E
E
It's
just
been
very
bizarre
and
their
issue
with
again
is
you
got
this
NFL
central
office,
which
is
a
licensing
group?
Then
you've
got
32
teams
out
there
who
have
their
own
ideas
around
what
their
blockchain
should
look
like
because
again,
as
you
probably
know
in
that
space
nfts
are
huge
and
billions
can
be
made
on
nfts,
but
you
need
a
blockchain
solution
to
manage
an
nft,
so
the
NBA
is
very
far
ahead
and
NFL
still
is
under
a
lot
of
heat
because
they
don't
have
nfts
on
the
tickets
and
things
of
that
nature.
E
E
You
know
I,
don't
want
to
work
that
many
hours
first
of
all,
again
I
I
laughed
and
so
I.
Don't
I,
don't
need
that
I!
Don't
need
that
job.
I!
Don't
need
a
job
anymore
and
you're
looking
to
do
that
job
properly,
you're,
looking
at
80
hours
a
week,
huge
amount
of
money
to
do
that
job,
but
the
politics
I
talked
us.
E
They
gave
me
every
single
phone
number
to
contact
their
I.T
had
in
every
single
football
team,
and
everybody
had
their
own
ideas
about
what
they
should
look
like
and
when
it
comes
to
nfts
they
have
Revenue
sharing.
So
they
had
to
buy
some
of
the
blockchain
solution
on
board
that
I
proposed
when
it
came
to
nfts
they
wanted
to
own
those.
They
just
became
a
political
mess,
and
so
I
said
no
thanks
and
I.
Just
this,
they
look
at
it
and
say:
I
think
their
issue
with
blockchain
was
just
they.
E
A
E
E
The
other
company
that
tried
to
hire
me
was
Amazon
and
Amazon.
Amazon
worldwide
is
clueless
about
the
blockchain
they
they
were
going
to
make
their
own
coin
at
one
time
which
became
a
you
probably
I,
don't
know
if
you
remember
that
that
became
a
disaster
they're
still
looking
at
blockchain,
but
they
just
seem
to
flop.
You
know
I
think
you
guys
had
it
on
at
the
beginning.
You
hit
it
on
the
head.
This
is
all
about
governance,
it's
not
tactical!
E
Yet
it's
all
about
governance,
and
so
that
is
an
issue
with
I
work
for
BP.
So,
no
matter
what
you
say
about
oil
companies
BP
that's
going
to
be
one
of
the
best
companies
on
Earth
to
work
for
the
benefits
and
where
they
treat
people.
But
governance
is
just
an
issue
with
NFL
governance,
Amazon
governance,
yeah.
That
just
seems
to
be
such
a
core
because
blockchain
Solutions,
this
governance.
H
D
E
Yeah
so
right
away,
the
NFL
said:
well:
we've
been
exploring
with
our
consulting
firm
the
fact
that
we're
gonna
have
to
issue
an
NFL
coin
to
put
our
nft
solution
and
who
told
you
that
why
would
you
need
an
NFL
coin?
No,
you,
don't
you
got
a
permission
blockchain
and
it's
just
so.
This
is
their
consulting
firm
in
Miami
somewhere,
but
anyway,
okay,
yeah.
C
E
E
C
E
And
the
reason
why
they
have
to
do
that,
because
there's
so
much
money
involved
currency
fluctuations
can
impact
a
project
of
these
magnitudes
when
you're
talking
about
something
that's
a
5
or
10
billion
dollar
project.
What
currency
is
are
being
used
depending
on
what
region
you
are,
and
so
they
have
to
do
a
lot
with
they
actually
do
a
lot
with
the
trade
Finance
part
of
it.
But
currency
fluctuations
can
really
impact
the
profitability
of
a
project.
Yeah.
A
A
D
A
And
you
see
the
process
that
are
laying
behind
because
of
what
creations
of
the
currents
of
this
so
they're
Maybe.
It's
always
good
space
for
the
ghost
kind
of
topics
that
you
mentioned.
That
could
help
in
some
way
in
sorting
out
of
troubles
you
don't
you
would
never
get
a
documentary
credit
unless
you
have
old
and
much
more
than
the
total
amount
and
the
deal
Frozen
and
bank
accounts
even
the
dabble
of
the
taller.
Now
so
that's
an
issue
think
about
small
and
medium
companies
now
that
they
have
awesome
projects.
D
C
C
We
got
going
a
little
bit
late
with
the
we'll
figure
that
out
for
next
time
with
things
here,
both
on
the
LinkedIn
side
as
well
as
within
hyperledger,
so
that
we
have
the
right,
Zoom,
link
or
others
don't
get
onto
our
Zoom
link,
how's
that
out
there
so
great
great
input
from
different
folks.
Hopefully
it
Sparks
some
thoughts.
I
would
look
for
us
to
get
together
again
on
January,
what's
14
days
from
now,
January
26th.
A
A
Yeah
exactly
as
soon
as
ready
by
the
way,
that's
let's
upload
the
meeting
recording
on
the
same
media,
so
I
can't
reshare
the
community
on
linkedin's
right
place
for
bringing
attendance
and,
as
we've
noticed,
we're
a
small
group
today
with
dedicated
professional
that
can
bring
good
topics
on
the
table
to
go
further
with
this.
By
the
way
we
have,
if
I'm
not
wrong,
we
have
Jonathan
my
friend
Jonathan
from
UK,
which
is
John
ciao
Jonathan
nice,
to
see
you
by
the
way
you're
on
the
phone.
C
C
A
No
speak
to
us,
as
Tom
said,
this
is
going
to
be
slightly
different
compared
to
what
we
have
been
doing
during
the
last
three
years.
Less
speeches
by
industry
stakeholders
more
activities
within
a
group.
We
would
need
a
group
to
stick
together
to
consolidate,
bring
more
of
dedicated
professional
to
bring
some
results.
This
challenge
of
223
and
I
would
love
to
to
get
to
some
results.
C
And
I
think
what
also
since
we
didn't
have
Daniella
on
this
time,
do
the
mix-up
we'll
have
Daniella?
She
said:
she'll
come
out
next
time
on
the
26th,
so
we'll
spend
the
first
few
minutes.
Having
her
give
us
a
give
us
a
couple,
thoughts
on
2023
in
hyperledger
overall,
so
with
that
I'll
close
out
again
thanks
everybody
for
sharing
your
background,
your
thoughts,
your
interests
across
the
board.