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A virtual meeting of the Trade Finance Special Interest Group on February 11, 2022. This included a presentation by Mr Tomasch Kubika, Policy Manager of ICC Paris and Ravi Hanspal, Partnere at BCG, had a speech on ICC sustainability standards for Trade and Supply Chain Finance. The second part of the meeting saw a presentation by Andrea Frosinini, Tom Klein and Erik Valiquette on the merging process between Hyperledger Trade Finance and Supply Chain SIGs with the steps they will undergo through. Also, they touched on the topic on the current Hyperledger Challenge 2022 and the way to accept it.
More about the Trade Finance Special Interest Group is at: https://wiki.hyperledger.org/display/TFSIG/
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B
So
let's
see
you
all
here
on
this
occasion
and
it's
very
first
missing
of
john
1.,
first
of
all,
meeting
pleasure
to
peak
starvis,
one
holston
speech
by
mr
thomas
kubia
from
icc
policy
manager
of
icc
in
paris
pleasure
to
have
you
here
thomas
today.
I
think
we
can
avoid
reading
the
whole
policy
by
the
way
you
will
find
it
on
the
wiki
page.
B
C
C
You
probably
know
that
the
icc
is
a
century
old
institution
regrouping
more
than
45
millions
of
members
corporates
from
almost
around
all
countries
in
the
world,
and
our
task
is
to
facility
trade
and
companies
developments
a
standard
setting
institution.
We
took
over
the
task
to
set
definitions
for
what
is
sustainable,
trade
and
and
sustainable
trade
finance.
C
C
C
So
in
the
what
section
we
were
so
meeting
the
paris
agreement,
requirements
where,
where
obviously
very
needed,
contributing
to
reaching
the
unsdgs
and
and
bridging
bridging
the
gap
in
in
current
standard
framework
and
and
clarified
between
between
the
various
initiatives
we
have,
we
have
currently
the
how
to
do.
It
was
how
to
create
clear
definitions
to
support
businesses.
C
C
C
So
what's
the
purpose
and
and
the
end
use
and
as
you
can
see
well,
yeah
from
the
seller,
the
buyer,
the
way
to
transport
it
or
the
transition
side,
each
have
a
specificity
and
and
where,
when
needed,
to
be
to
be
analyzed.
For
for
this
thorough
study
we
were
able
to
frame
and-
and
we
believe,
understandable,
scoring
metrics
and
discuss
how
to
to
use
them
and
further
develop
them
for
for
end
product.
For
for
it
to
be
to
be
used
and
be
and
be
and
be
useful.
E
A
given
trade
has
so
many
different
elements
that
count
or
cannot
be
sustainable.
What
is
the
actual
good?
What
is
the
behavior
of
the
seller?
What
is
the
end
destination
in
use?
Is
it
being
transported
like
by
air
by
ship
by
road
and
then
also?
What
is
the
purpose
you
know?
Are
we
buying
solar
panels
to
put
on
top
of
factories
with
portal
labor
practices
that
all
these
different
elements
that
make
actually
defining
sustainable
trade
extremely
complex
and
one
of
the
big
challenges
we
got
was
well?
E
Are
we
over
complicating
the
problem
and
many
times
we
thought?
That
is
the
case.
The
problem
is
that
what
we
don't
want
to
do
is
put
a
sustainability
stamp
on
a
certain
transaction
where
very
unsustainable
activities
can
slip
through
the
net,
and
I
think
trade
is
a
prime
example
again.
One
of
the
simplest
is
you
know:
if
you're,
if
you're
going
to
have
the
most
ethical,
you
know
raised
meat
or
dairy,
etc,
but
then
decide
to
ship
it
across
the
world
by
air,
so
it
arrives
the
next
day
in
a
high-end
supermarket.
E
You
can't
call
it
sustainable.
I
think
this
is
where
we've
got
all
these
different
dimensions.
So
what
we
actually
did,
there's
sort
of
two
outcomes
to
the
overall
icc
framework,
and
you
know
by
all
means
some
disclaimer.
We
don't
think
this
is
something
we
can
do
tomorrow.
This
is
an
end
state.
This
is
where
we
want
to
get
to.
E
We
would
score
it
basically
on,
I
suppose,
four
levels,
so
one
does
it
actively
contribute
to
economic,
human,
social
or
environmental
sustainability?
Does
it
meet
sustainable
standards?
Does
it
know
significant
harms,
because
it's
like
a
sliding
scale,
or
does
it
actually
not
meet
the
minimum
requirements
at
all
I.e?
It
does
significant
harm
and
this
effect
effectively
lets
us
create
a
matrix
that
we
can
then
summarize,
depending
on
how
sustainable
it
is
across
the
transaction,
so
that
we
have
a
simpler
way
of
determining
okay.
Well,
this
is
the
school
card
for
a
given
transaction.
E
For
us.
We
wanted
something
quite
simple,
quite
machine
readable,
but
also
something
that
gave
enough
transparency,
because
one
of
the
big
debates
we
had
is
that
actually
it's
not
that
useful
to
have
a
binary.
This
is
sustainable.
This
is
not
at
a
transaction
level,
because
different
banks,
different
buyers,
different
suppliers
will
have
also
their
own.
I
suppose
thresholds
of
what
they
want
to
do
business
with
or
who
they
want
to
do.
Business
with.
E
E
So
I
guess
this
is
where
we
want
to
get
to.
I
think
when
we
can
sort
of
move
on
to
now
is
sort
of
what
that
really
means
in
practice,
because
clearly,
yes,
this
is
many
people's
dream
and
being
able
to
have
the
stage
at
their
fingertips.
In
reality,
the
reality
is
quite
different.
Thomas.
Can
you
move
forward?
One
page,
please
suppose
the
challenge
number
one
is
what
we
really
want
to
avoid
is,
as
the
icc
be
drawing
up
new
standards,
there
are
huge
amounts
of
sustainability
standards.
E
Iso
bci,
the
un
ones,
fair
trade,
and
actually
the
last
you
want
to
do-
is
give
banks
or
corporates
smes.
Any
new
work
to
do
in
terms
of
we
need
to
avail
with
this.
We
need
to
comply
with
that,
so
our
plan
is
to
actually
take
existing
standards,
map
them
and
effectively
use
them
as
different
levels,
whether
they're
the
minimum
standards,
icc
recognized
or
active
contribution
standards,
enabling
actually,
hopefully
quite
a
data-driven
and
straightforward
way
of
scoring
transactions
based
on
information
already
available
today.
E
E
Now,
I
think,
back
on
the
theme
of
practicality,
I
think
there
are
sort
of
three
key
sets
of
considerations.
We
move
towards
implementation,
so
one
is
a
kind
of
infertile
one.
A
lot
like.
How
will
this
work
in
practice?
What
are
the
standards
we
need
to
use?
How
will
this
actually
be
right?
Who
will
do
the
measurements?
E
What
sort
of
scrutiny
will
be
applied?
How
do
we
actually
make
this
relatively
automated,
because
the
last
thing
we
want
to
do
is
invent
kyc
all
over
again,
so
it's
kind
of
bucket
one
bucket
two-
and
I
imagine
for
this
call.
The
very
interesting
bucket
is
what
will
be
the
role
of
technology.
I
think
just
building
my
last
point.
E
E
Is
there
going
to
be
some
central
repository
of
this
sustainability
data
and
trade,
and
is
there
some
sort
of
order
mechanism
we
need?
How
that's
going
to
work
out
is
a
big
question
and
then
also
like
what
are
banks
or
corporates
actually
going
to
do
with
this
information?
Is
it
going
to
be
used
just
for
reporting,
ideally
we'll
see
financial
institutions
actually
guiding
their
portfolio
decisions
based
on
sustainability
of
transactions?
E
E
F
Oh,
thank
you
very
good
as
well.
Well,
thank
you.
First
of
all
for
the
the
call
so
far,
you
know
very
topical,
absolutely
love
this
topic
for
myself.
I
just
had
one
question
for
either
ravi
or
thomas.
Basically,
I
mean
what
is
that?
How
are
you
planning
to
drive
adoption
around
this,
especially
because
you
know
sustainability
definition
does
differ
from
country
to
country.
F
So
is
there
a
tie
up
somewhere
with
industry
bodies
or
governments
to
see
because
the
beauty
of
trade
and
also
the
complexity
associated
with
trade,
is
that
it
crosses
borders
right?
So
what
might
be
sustainable
in
one
country
needs
to
be
sustainable
across
the
entire
end-to-end
chain.
So
have
you
given
this
some
thought.
E
Yes,
so
that's
permanent!
That
is
one
of
the
crux
of
the
problem.
So
completely
completely
agree.
I
think
what
we
haven't
started.
Yet
that's
that's
really
going
to
probably
start
next
month
is
this
process
of
taking
existing
standards
and
mapping
them
to
the
icc
criteria.
If
you
meet
standard
x,
does
that
mean
you
meet
our
minimum
standards?
You
encounter
sort
of
the
sort
of
standard,
sustainable
standards
or
you're
actively
mitigating
the
sustainability
dimension.
E
Now
that's
easier
said
than
done,
because
it
will
require
quite
a
lot
of
governance
and
the
right
standard,
setters
and
industry
professionals
to
really
make
some
of
those
calls.
I
suppose
the
way
I
describe
the
output
of
that
is
almost
like
a
globally
recognized
hierarchy
of
international
sustainability
standards
and
how
they
compare
against
each
other.
E
E
The
reason
being
is
that
eight,
we
all
know
that
complying
with
standards
from
an
industry
perspective
just
as
a
huge
amount
of
pain
and
cost
and
needs
no
like
adoption
is
a
massive
challenge.
The
second
is
that
actually
you're
right
in
sense
that
different
standards
are
relevant
to
different
countries.
You
know
we
always
use
example
of
if
you
insist
that
everything
is
transported
by
eevee
in
sub-saharan
africa.
Well,
you
know
you're
creating
the
world
for
your
back.
E
So
that's
the
plan.
The
the
other
overall
part
of
the
answer
is
like.
If
we
want
to
increase
adoption,
we
need
to
listen
to
banks,
we
need
to
listen
to
corporates
and
therefore
we
we
are
engaging
closely
and
we'll
continue
to
engage
closely
to
actually
make
sure
that
we
reach
that
common
ground
where
actually
corporation
banks
think
this
is
workable,
because
by
having
the
the
most
complex
framework
that
nobody
actually
wants,
people
are
going
to
ignore
it
and
we're
fully
aware
of
that.
F
B
This
is
a
very
good
point
and
he
pointed
out
currently
how
complex
is
trade,
but
often
complex
solutions
find
pretty
pretty
simple.
Complex
pictures
sometimes
find
pretty
easy
solution
to
be
breeding,
pretty
simple
solutions
so
sorry
for
interrupts.
You
know
I
saw
that
ricardo
here
in
the
attendance,
because
the
cardi
raised
his
hands
to
make
a
question.
Then
there
is
another
question
by
sherwood
moore
ricardo.
B
E
So
we
said
in
the
multi-year
piece
very
much
agree
with
with
badness
point
around
start
small
expand
wide.
So
I
think
where
we
plan
to
get
to
probably
for
the
unga
later
this
year
is
a
very
simple
bare
bones
framework,
but
something
that's
workable
and
I'd
like
to
take
the
challenge
of
having
at
least
one
works
more
complex
example
as
well,
but
but
within
quite
an
industry
nature.
So
that's
kind
of
the
first
milestone.
D
B
G
See
you
oh
thank
you,
andrea.
It's
very
it's
a
pleasure
to
be
on
and
thank
you
for
inviting
me
to
today's
seminar.
Webinar.
It's
been
very
interesting
so
far.
I
had
just
one
simple
question
as,
as
you
know,
I'm
an
honorary
member
of
baft
and
baft
has
actually
created
a
sustainability
working
group
that
is
looking
at
a
number
of
issues
around
sustainability
in
trade
and
trade
finance,
and
is
very
interested
and
keen
to
work
alongside
and
in
close
cooperation
with
icc.
G
On
this
effort
that
tomasz
and
his
colleague
described
to
us
today.
It
sounds
most
interesting
and
also,
of
course,
so
relevant
for
bafts
and
its
members,
and
I
just
wanted
to
ask-
is:
is
this
part
of
the
plan
of
icc
that
they
would
be
very
pleased
to
work
with
organizations
like
bafta
on
on
these
issues?
C
Hey,
thank
you,
john,
so
it's
it's
definitely
not
an
a
task
where
we're
taking
by
ourselves.
First,
it's
it's
a
it's
the
icc,
with
throughout
its
mem,
it's
membership.
So
so,
like
I
I
said
during
the
presentation
we
have
like
already
like
more
than
200
members,
which
are
in
various
corporations,
banks
involved
in
the
project
and
and
we
received
actually
no
later
than
two
days
ago.
We
received
the
baft
comment
on
on
the
paper
so
and
we
will
like
obviously,
closely
cooperate
and
and
work
together,
yeah.
C
This
is
really
exciting
to
see
that
this
is
attracting
a
lot
of
attention.
A
lot
of
comments,
sometimes
some
harsh
questions,
but
that's
how
how
we're
going
to
develop
the
the
framework
further
and-
and
we
happy
I
think-
to
have
to
have
left
attention
on
this
so
yeah
this.
I
can
already
spoil
it
to
you.
It's
going
to
be
further
cooperation
with
other
institutions.
G
G
H
Your
thing
thanks,
ravi
thanks
tomas,
here,
quick
question
here.
It
sounds
like
you
guys,
are
being
technology
neutral
in
implementation
here,
but
I'm
wondering
if
you
have
blockchain
as
a
consideration
for
technology
or
have
you
started
down
that
path
there
notice
do
we
need
a
central
repository
as
opposed
to
a
decentralized
repository,
so
you're
smiling
there
ravi.
So
I'm
giving
you
a
loaded
question.
E
I
should
be
more
careful
with
words,
because
the
word
central
definitely
didn't
mean
not
decentralized.
That's
a
very
good
question.
So
we
have.
We
really
haven't
delved
into
the
tech
side
of
things.
I
think
where
we
are
from
a
tech
perspective
is
kyc.
Is
such
a
such
a
pain
for
everybody?
It
doesn't
really
work
it.
Basically,
it's
every
financial
institution
doing
doing
the
same
work
repeatedly.
E
So
there
is
a
certain
there's
certain
activity
around
collecting
information,
storing
information,
bringing
back
up
that
information
and
using
it
that
there
have
to
be
synergies
about
doing
it,
smartly,
from
tech
perspective,
so
that's
kind
of
one
number,
two,
the
less
work
it
is
to
comply.
The
more
corporations
and
banks
will
comply.
E
So
there's
really
quite
a
strong
case
to
get
tech
right.
Central
repository
is
one
sort
of
idea.
It's
effectively.
I
think
the
big
questions
I've
got
are
is
a
common
data
model
and
is
there
a
way
to
share
this
sort
of
data
and
record
it
centralized
decentralized?
Haven't
given
that
too
much
thought,
certainly
across
our
minds,
that
there
is
a
dlt
type
possibility
to
this,
but
it
I
think
it
has
to
be
subsumed
also
into
the
broader.
H
E
And
there
are
examples
I
don't
know
if
you've
seen
opensc
before,
which
is
yes,
wwf,
it's
yeah,
that's
a
prime
example
of
that
is
dlt,
and
it
would
actually
answer
a
lot
of
the
questions
on
on
the
page
for
very,
very
niche.
I
think
it's
like
prawns
or
something
where
it's
live.
Very
very
new
transactions,
good.
E
So
the
prior
question
probably
answered
where
we
are
from
the
the
tech
and
data
side
not
yet
need
to
look
into
stuff
like
that.
So
I
appreciate
the
the
recommendation.
I
think,
if
anything
it
stresses,
we
need
to
get
this
tech
group
set
up
with
people
who
are
really
close
to
us,
but
it's
something
we'll
look
into
and.
D
E
So
where
is
it
so
our
general
sort
of
mentality
here
and
so
much?
I
know
I'm
speaking
about
the
icca,
so
they
do
chip
into
disagrees.
We
want
to
create
quite
open
working
groups
to
to
really
capture
the
best
of
the
industry
minds.
So,
yes,
we're
open
to
collaboration.
The
only
sort
of
point
I'd
sort
of
pick
on
is
in
we're
not
yet
at
the
stage
where
we
even
have
anything
to
implement
from
a
tech
side.
So
I
think
it's
cracking
the
problem,
understanding
the
solution
and
then
thinking
about
implementing.
E
C
D
Yes,
thank
you
yeah,
so
robbie.
Thank
you
very
much.
This
presentation.
I
have
been
able
to
catch
the
very
beginning
of
it,
so
I
I
apologize
if
you've
already
answered
this
question,
but
the
challenges
that
you
are
tackling
our
challenges
that
we
are
also
kind
of
considering
how
to
approach
in
the
climate,
action
and
accounting
sig
and
we're
actively.
You
know
kind
of
recruiting
corporate
partners
to
try
to
kind
of
focus
on
individual
use
cases
to
kind
of
figure
out
how
to
kind
of
tackle
some
of
these
things.
D
D
E
That
is
stuff.
That's
already
recorded
or
reported
against
in
the
industry,
and
the
other
is
things
where.
Actually
you
can
do
in
quite
a
data-driven
way
certain
businesses
already
looking?
How
can
we
actually
measure
disabled
carbon
as
an
example
right?
Actually,
carbon
transparency
has
skyrocketed
in
recent
years?
Is
there
something
we
can
do
that?
I
imagine
we
will
start
with
just?
Are
there
any
elements
that
are
recorded
today
by
the
relevant
parties
of
trade?
E
I
imagine
we
might
need
to
actually
start
in
something
that's
far
more
measurable
in
the
corporate
world
than
the
sme
world
just
because
of
the
commonality
of
of
reporting
and
read
from
there.
But
to
be
honest
in
the
first
few
iterations
we're
going
to
prioritize
simplicity
and
implementability
over
rigor
just
just
to
get
somewhere.
D
E
So
the
way
the
first
paper
was
written
was
very
much.
There
was
a
stakeout,
the
stakeholder
chosen
by
icc,
and
we
took
on
board
feedback
from
about
200
banks
and
corporates
moving
forward.
As
we
actually
start
to
set
standards,
we
need
to
have
representatives
through
industry
bodies
to
really
ensure
that
it's
everything
is
fairly
represented.
E
D
B
C
B
B
So,
within
this
framework
major
framework,
we
found
space
collaboration
and
one
of
these
realized
at
the
end
of
2021
that
one
of
these
could
be
emerging.
Hyperledger
trade
funds
say
well
supply
chain,
say
this.
Two
topics
been
pretty
intimately
entwined.
If
you
look
at
what
trade
finances
is
so
closely
inclined
with
logistics
or
supply
chain,
of
course,
with
foreign
investment.
H
Can
can
we,
let's
also
do
some
introductions
here
for
those
who
are
from
the
trade
finance
world
and
they
know
you
andrea,
but
they
don't
know
and
the
same
thing
from
the
supply
chain.
Sig.
They
don't
know
you,
so
this
would
be
good.
So
folks
we
we've
decided
two
thing.
We
said
one
thing:
it
took
us
a
lot
longer
on
name
and
thank
you
for
the
people
that
submitted
some
some
thoughts.
H
We
we
really
thought
hard
about
global
trade
as
one
option,
but
we
wanted
to
get
the
logistics
and
domestic
markets
and
those
kind
of
things
into
it,
so
we're
staying
so
the
name
is
going
to
stay
forward
as
supply
chain
and
trade
finance
and
the
wikis
will
be
coming
together
and
all
that
kind
of
stuff-
and
eric
will
talk
a
little
bit
about
that.
So
quick
I'll
do
an
introduction
myself.
I
was
one
of
the
co-chairs
for
the
supply
chain
special
interest
group.
H
H
Certainly
we
we
understand
and
want
to
work
with
the
technology,
but
I
like
the
fact
that
there's,
okay,
here's
something
that
where
we
can
apply
some
use
cases-
and
we
all
know
that
they're
thinner
on
the
ground-
there's
not
as
many
as
we'd
all
like
them
to
so
I
I
got
involved
with
the
supply
chain
sig
and
became
co-chair.
I
guess
late
late
into
2020,
it's
hard
to
believe
all
this
kind
of
stuff
here
and
I've
been
involved
since
I'm
excited
for
us
coming
together.
H
H
Basically,
it's
a
governance
standards
group,
so
I've
been
doing
some
work
with
that.
I
also
am
have
a
working
on
a
startup
around
social
impact
and
specifically
around
youth
and
how
to
get
global
or
how
to
get
youth
who
are
not
going
to
college
into
the
workforce
more
easily
and
then
help
them
stay
in
the
workforce
and
provide
future
ready
pass
going
forward.
H
So
those
are
some
of
the
things
and
I'm
all
I'm
thinking
that
blockchain
is
underneath
a
lot
of
these
in
order
to
make
these
things
go
a
lot
smoother
here
for
those
of
you
from
the
trade
finance
side.
I'll
point
you
to
the
23rd
of
october.
Last
year
myself,
I
saw
jeff
stulman.
We
did
a
presentation
for
the
hyperledger
washington
group
on
introduction
to
supply
chain
and,
if
you're
interested,
you
can
go
back
and
look
at
that
on
youtube
that
video
to
understand
a
little
bit
more
about
what's
going
on
supply
chain.
A
Well,
thank
you,
sir.
I
appreciate
everybody
coming
together
today.
My
name
is
eric
betty
getz.
I
come
from
the
logistics
and
supply
chain
world,
so
I
grew
up
in
freight
forwarders
and
customs
brokers
and
what
got
me
interested
in
blockchain
a
few
years
ago,
pretty
much
the
same
time
well
been
interested
in
blockchain
for
a
while,
but
came
to
the
hyperledger
sig
about
two
years
ago
was
the
frustration
that
I've
been
living
for
the
last
30
years
around
bad
information,
bad
data
in
the
freight
forwarding
worlds.
A
For
those
who
know
the
the
logistics
world
a
lot
of
different
parties,
a
lot
of
data,
that's
exchanged!
A
lot
of
you
know,
goods
being
flowed
around
the
world
by
these
companies
and
not
a
whole
lot
of
them
have
technology
on
the
roadmap.
Well,
not
you
know
up
to
up
to
the
pandemic,
at
least
before
that
they
were
not.
The
industry
was
not
a
very
technology
savvy
industry.
So
that's
why
he
became
involved
in
in
blockchain.
A
He
became
interested
started
an
industry
association
to
bring
the
supply
chain
world
around
blockchain,
so
that
was
started
here
in
canada
about
two
years
ago
as
well.
Canadian
blockchain
supply
chain
association
and
now
we're
growing
globally
into
the
blockchain
supply
chain
association.
Just
an
overall
industry,
neutral
party
industry
association
just
to
build
communities
and
build
interest
around
blockchain
for
the
supply
chain.
World
happy
to
be
here
as
well
and
now
andrea.
A
B
No
I've
been
running
the
city
two
years
nowadays
by
now,
so
we
went
deeply
into
this
last
year.
Those
all
of
us
have
been
following
us
through
the
journey
that
we
had.
So
unlike
tom,
I'm
not
a
technical
guy.
I
don't
have
a
technical
background.
I
come
from
the
straight
trade
finance
world,
not
even
banks,
because
I've
been
working
basically
into
multinational
companies,
so
deeply
exposed
to
all
the
problems,
all
the
features
by
create
violence,
and
I
have
natural
pensions
for
innovation.
B
So
my
biggest
goal
is
to
let
not
only
merging,
still
safe
but
step
by
step.
Enhancing
collaboration
intra
saves
so
not
only
supply
chain,
not
only
trade
funds,
but
all
social
impact,
climate
change,
because
you
could
see,
we've
been
looking
at
these
sustainability
goals
and
looking
gsg,
especially
during
the
last
meeting
that
we
have
been
mr
alexander
market.
B
That's
a
game
sport
just
like
block
chains,
so
c900
brought
a
picture
in
my
understanding.
This
merging
will
lead
to
enhanced
collaboration
with
of
the
sixth
of
the
hyperledger
and
that's
my
very
primary
goal.
This
year.
This
is
just
the
beginning.
This
is
kickoff
meeting,
hopefully
more
in
the
future
will
come.
We
will
have
special
meeting
like
we
did
by
the
way
in
2021
and
can
see,
can
convey
to
you
to
go
for
that.
H
Good,
hey,
andrea,
can
I
add
a
little
bit
to
that
yeah.
Please,
do
based
on
the
chart
that
we
have
up
here,
similar
to
trade
finance.
We
had
a
set
of
calls
all
last
year
for
supply
chain.
We
started
off
doing
some
small
projects.
We
had
limited
success
and
we're
really
looking
for
taking
that
idea
and
making
it
bigger,
making
it
more
valuable.
Here
I
mean
these
aren't
just
words
here
that
engage,
increasing
engagement
and
creating
more
value
for
participants.
H
I
mean
we'll
have
a
next
chart
here,
we'll
talk
about
how
to
add
value,
or
at
least
how
we're
thinking
initially
here
we're
viewing
we're
not
bought
and
we're
viewing
this
as
we're
all
together
on
this.
We
all
have
a
similar
interest
in
taking
taking
blockchain
and
using
it
as
a
mechanism
to
solve
a
lot
of
the
problems
in
supply
chain,
trade,
finance
and
all
the
things
that
go
around
it
out
there.
H
F
D
B
B
F
H
Our
group
has
not
done
any
pocs
itself
I'll
talk
about
that
in
the
next
chart
here.
Hopefully,
where
we're
looking
to
do
some
sort
of
pilot
around
climate,
accounting
and
sherwood,
who
asked
some
questions
earlier
was:
is
somebody
that
we're
working
with
and
we're
hoping
with
that
group,
the
karma
carbon
tracking
initiative?
There
is
the
last
one:
that's
something
we're
looking
to
do
here
and
actually
generate
some
code
and
build
something
here
in
2022.
F
H
Well,
maybe
I'll
just
talk
about
it
right
now
and
sure
would
feel
free
to
reach
in
so
so
there's
another
sig
here,
climate
action
in
accounting,
so
as
part
of
breaking
down
the
silos,
we
said
that,
yes,
we
want
to
work
with
another
other
groups,
even
besides
merging
our
group.
So
with
this
climate
accounting,
our
climate
action
and
accounting
group
they've
already
done
some
work
around
measurement
reporting,
verification
of
climate
data.
Now
it's
how
do
I?
H
The
part-
and
this
is
so-
we
have
not
started
bringing
this
all
together,
although
there's
pieces
of
it.
Probably
the
biggest
thing
is:
where
do
we
want
our
focus
to
be?
There's
been
some
discussion
around
gas
flaring.
How
do
we
track
that?
There's
some
discussion
about?
How
do
we
track
a
package
as
it
gets
shipped
throughout
a
supply
chain
and
what's
the
emissions
that
come
along
with
that?
Those
are
probably
the
two
prominent
ones
right
now,
but
obviously
the
group
would
be
open
to
others
out
there.
F
Can
I
can
I
it
does
you
know
I
just
get
a
sense
in
terms
of
what
stage
you
are
on,
but
may
I
be
cheeky
to
just
ask
one
quick
question
on
this
as
well
when
you,
when
you
talk
about
supply
chain,
what
level
of
how?
How
deep
do
you
go
in
or
or
my
maybe
a
question
is
how
how
deep
do
you
need
to
go
in
because
you
know
there
are
a
lot
of
downstream.
H
F
H
H
H
Figuring
that
scope,
1
people
kind
of
probably
have
a
somewhat
reasonable
handle
on
it
right,
scope.
2
again,
you
know
what
power
you're
buying
from
different
places,
scope.
3
is
all
this
other
stuff
out
there,
and
I
mean
one
of
the
questions
I
wanted
to
ask.
Ravi
and
tomasz
was
what
are
those
all
those
energy
companies
that
you
talk
to
thinking
about
scope
3?
They
probably
don't
score
very
well
on
it,
so
yeah
scope,
3,
is
where,
where
right
now,
our
plan
is
on
the
focus.
H
A
B
So
there's
a
few
planned
activities
for
2021..
Basically,
the
goal
is
to
go
for
every
two
weeks
meeting
as
a
schedule.
Last
year,
as
you
saw,
maybe
we're
going
to
have
some
some
more.
I
mean
special
meetings,
as
we
did
in
2021
that
it
has
to
be
really
special
and
you
see
we're
going
to
shift.
I
mean
if
you
followed
our
activities
in
20
in
during
the
last
two
years.
Actually
we
were
straight
fancy
deeply
focused
and
deeply
and
rooted
in
the
epic
region.
There
were
participants
from
hong
kong
from
singapore
as
well.
B
That's
what
real
deal
is
in
terms
of
dlts
and
digitization.
So
we'll
try
to
go
on
with
these
and
have
more
meetings
in
the
space.
So
we
will
shift.
We
don't
have
a
really
fixed
time,
most
probably
we're
going
to
shift
every
two
weeks.
We're
gonna
have
a
meeting
in
the
epic
region
to
cover
the
whole
globe
to
have
a
really
global
outreach.
B
So
we're
going
to
be
deeply
focused
also
on
linkedin
activities.
You
will
be
notified.
You
see
what
meetings
through
linkedin,
not
only
on
the
main
release
to
stick
around
through
that.
Our
goal
is
to
not
only
to
be
focused
on
meetings.
As
I
said,
one
of
the
missing
points
in
2021
were
the
project,
so
we
plan
to
deliver
more
and
more
about
base.
B
The
next
step
is
to
go
for
the
overall
apology
challenge
we're
about
to
launch
this.
So
eric
will
will
tell
you
more
about
this.
We
just
kick
started
the
initiative,
we'll
go
through
the
following
step
or
the
conclusion
that
is
the
scene
for
august
2nd
this
year
and
as
detailed
by
tom.
Previously
we
have
an
initiative
to
develop
a
carbon
tracking
solution
with
climate
action
and
accounting
say
so.
This
team
in
2022
is
just
the
beginning,
as
I
said,
we're
going
to
focus
deeply
on
esg
and
sustainable
development
goals.
B
A
A
I
believe
the
india
chapter
of
hyper
ledger
had
a
hackathon
bringing
together
the
student
community,
the
developer
community
around
building.
You
know
innovative
products
around
hyperledger,
so
that
being
said,
and
then
being
that
I
can't
say
no
to
andrea,
he
wrote
me
into
a
conversation
with
a
few
of
the
other
team
members
of
that
hackathon
and
as
a
group,
we
decided
to
kind
of
go
global
with
this.
With
this
event,
so
we
are,
we
just
launched
a
few
weeks
ago,
something
called
hyperledger
challenge.
A
A
We
are
looking
for
the
community,
the
hyperledger
community,
to
bring
forward
innovative
projects
either
around
business
solutions
or
around
improvement
of
hyperledger
code,
no
matter
what
it
is
absolutely
open
to
everyone.
It
is
open
to
students,
it
is
open
to
business
if
you're
an
individual
and
you're
looking
for
for
support
around
the
challenge.
We
can
certainly
do
that.
There
is
information
on
either
our
linkedin
pages
or
in
the
hyperledger
wiki.
You
can
reach
out
to
myself
or
andrea
or
arun,
for
those
who
know
arun
or
nancy.
A
For
those
who
know
nancy,
and
hopefully
we
can
get
your
participation
and,
as
my
extra
responsibility,
I'm
also
in
charge
of
the
sponsorship.
So
if
you
think
of
companies
or
individuals
that
would
like
to
sponsor
this
event,
by
giving
you
know
free
cloud
services
or
or
education
courses
or
swag
or
mentorship,
you
know,
subject
matter,
experts
have
them
reach
out
to
us.
We
will
gladly
have
a
conversation
with
them.
We
are
looking
for
your
involvement.
A
We
are
looking
to
to
make
this
a
big
event
and
we're
looking
to
bring
innovation
to
not
only
supply
chain
and
trade
finance,
but
to
social
impact.
The
climate
impact
to
all
the
different
groups
that
we
have
our
hyperledger
through
this
beautiful
event,
culminating,
hopefully
at
global
forum.
I
hear
it
in
europe,
maybe
in
september,
so
that's
it
about
the
hyperledger
challenge.
Thank
you
very
much
in
under
two
minutes,.
B
No,
no,
I
was
just
saying
that
I
think
we
come
into
an
hour,
so
we
love
to
thank
all
the
attendants
for
this
meeting
and
would
love
them
to
stay
tuned.
Follow
us
in
2022,
hopefully
with
the
goal
to
go
bigger
and
bigger
and
deliver
more
valuable
contents
and
projects
stick
around
and
we'll
see
you
soon
for
the
next
meetings.