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NEWCOMERS Tutorial at IETF102
2018/07/15 1230

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/102/proceedings/

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The new comer session, so everything is going to swell up to now. I am Niels, I am a member of the edge' team or the edge' Directorate, and we're trying to make your stay and visit with the IETF take as long as possible. So you feel really welcome in this community, but we also have stuff to learn from you, so you can help. You can tell us how we can do better, so you might have have taken part in the webinar and you might have a mentor. How many of you have got a mentor?

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That's a few! There is the quick connection session this this afternoon. How many of you are planning to go there? It's a few there's a newcomer meet-and-greet after that, where you can meet with area directors and mentors. So we have a couple of these things going on during the week Thursday morning. We have for you free breakfast. If you tell us what we can improve, so we really would like to invite you to come to that feedback session.

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So we can help coming into the IETF, which is a bit of a particular environment, make a better and more sticky experience. So that would be great if you have any questions Karen, who is in the back of the room currently in a certainly wave she's, the chair of the edge redirect turret so my boss, and but if there you can always reach out to the edges, even a Directorate members.

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So if you have any questions to your mentors and we're happy to help you now without further ado, two great presenters that will guide you through the best ways of finding out what these dots mean, how to get the draft and how to get active thanks so much enjoy the week.

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Can someone in the back raise it wave their hands, make sure this okay? So this works? We're not gonna stand up.

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Let's right here, uh so my name is rich Saul's I'll be talking. Second I've been involved with the IDF for a number of years, I'm chair for a couple working groups. My main focus is on security, TLS, I work.

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We go at least this one month at least: won't drop right, so I work for a company, Akamai Technologies- and here you know, I'm glad to help and but I'll be talking. Second, and to reduce the number of transitions. Will let Anne Shiell introduce yourself, but we do have a mix here, industry and academia, which is nice and representative of the IETF.

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Hello, everyone, um I'm Anton Malhotra I'm, a graduate student at Boston, University USA, and my research focuses basically on the security of internet protocols here at IETF, I'm mainly involved with the NTP working group, DNS working group and security area working groups- and this is my seventh IETF now Wow yeah. That's amazing, I've survived that guys, you will too okay. So, let's get you started.

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Okay, so, first of all welcome all to the IETF. This set of slides was first drafted by Scott bread, nur from Harvard University and later it was taken over by Mike, st. John's I haven't met the people personally, but I'm sure there are some guys they have done a great job and recently I think in the past year. This slide deck was taken over by the edu team and they have been working on it since forever.

C

Okay, so, let's see what's there, okay, so guys familiarize yourself well with the slide, because this is the one that you're going to see at the beginning of every working session, every every working group session. As it says, it's an IETF note. Well our slide, so you guys better know that. Well, this basically reminds you of that as an IETF participant you are obliged to, or you are expected to follow certain policies that are in effect on various topics that uncovers the patterns or the code of conduct processes.

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There are certain ITF BCPs that is the best current practices documents that are written by very smart people that I advise you to go and read. They will tell you about the processes of ITF, ranging from internet standards and working group processes. 25. It tells you about the entire harassment procedures that the ITF follows about the code of conduct, copyright patterns and participation, and, most recently, this privacy policy, DCP, I, think and this privacy policy.

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It basically tells you that all the information that you give to IETF, how is it handles all the procedures that how IETF handles our private information? You should go, read it if you are interested in that sort of thing. So this is the most popular slide that you guys are going to see on all working group sessions.

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Then the new comer activities, I, believe you all are newcomers here. This is your first or second IETF, I, believe so. I teach vs ITF errs take great effort to provide you with all the soul, resources and information that is necessary for you to integrate well into this community. So, beginning with the add newcomers tutorial here today for the next 1 hour, we are going to tell you about some things that will help you survive through this week. Then, today evening, I hope you all have registered at from 3 to 4.

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We have an IETF, quick connection session. This is basically as rich says. It's like speed dating so you'll have short one-to-one conversation with a lot of experienced diet. Efforts.

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I will get to know what everyone is doing and you can recognize and try to see who or which people do you want to work with what areas you are interested in and then we have newcomers meet and greet from 405, which is which will be attended by a working group set a working group, chairs area directors and other ITF leaders, and once you have recognized who you want to really work with, then you in this session you can just go and talk to them and see how you can get more involved with them.

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It's none. There is nothing formal, it's a very informal session. There will be no speeches, no presentations, but there will be wine. There will be beer and there'll be snacks, so you better go there.

C

Then we have this mentoring. I saw a few people. How many of you have mentors assigned already very few people I would suggest others to do the same, because these are very smart people. They would advise you, they would help you. You can ask very specific questions to them. If you want to connect to someone, you taught to talk someone specifically, you can ask them, they will introduce, introduce you to them.

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It will make your life easier, ok and then we have Monday evening that is tomorrow. We have new comers dinner. You guys can go and have chit chat with there'll be people from working group. Again working group session chairs will have area directors and there are other people as well. I think it's again a very informal dinner and you can go and chat with people.

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Okay, so scope: let's see what you can expect from this this tutorial, so this presentation in this presentation we are going to give you a very brief introduction and general advice on how to survive this week, as you are as your first time or second time. Participation at ITF sessions will also familiarize you with how to get connected with people how to recognize make strategies on what you want to do here. What is what's the aim that you want to accomplish here? What this presentation does not include is the history of IETF.

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We are not going to talk about that. We are not going to talk about or dictate how standards are going to be written, but will definitely guide you to the right pointers and the sources of information. Here you can get all all of this. For instance, there is this link on YouTube channel that will give you that we provide you information on all these topics.

C

Okay, so the ITF and related organizations. What is the mission of IETF? The IETF aims to produce highly technical, high quality technical Internet documents with the aim to make Internet work better, and this mission of IETF is guided by several principles. So one of the principles that guide this mission of IETF is open process. We here at IETF, believed that anyone can come and participate and see what's going on and have their voice heard on a particular issue. The aim is to make all the documents mailing layers shopping session, attendees list available to the public.

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So we are here believing an open process. Then this another principle that guides this mission is the voluntary participation. All the participants here are self-motivated and highly passionate about furthering the mission of ITF, that is, to make the internet work better.

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The IETF aims to deal with the topics they we try here to solve the topics and issues that we have technical competence and, and one of our aims is to output the documents or to produce outputs that are based on sound engine network engineering principles.

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So these are the few principles that the idea, the idea is to make Internet work better for anyone, ranging from a normal user to an Internet service provider or a content, distribution network, etc.

C

Ietf, basically, we are standards. David ITF is a standards, development organization. There are several other internet organizations, but I would say we are different from all of them in various aspects. First of all, there is no nothing binding you to the IETF. There is no formal membership. You can come and go as you please here at ITF we have no formal voting process. We do not raise hands or have a voting bellies. We do things here by humming and we'll talk about it later. We believe in rough consensus here and we achieve it by humming.

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Itf is not related to any formal government organization. So no government we are not a ITF, doesn't have to go through any of the government processes which is very different from most of the other standard Internet organizations.

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One other important thing is that all the standards that we do here are very voluntary. There are no formal processes to make people or to mandate those standards on people. It's a very it's. We do not mandate standards from the top. It's a very community driven or market driven approach where people get together recognize a problem. Try to solve it, people go and implement it, deploy it in the real world and see and give us the feedback, and then, from there we iterate this process of improving the standard and that's how it goes.

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It's not that we are mandating or asking someone to adopt it. It's it's more evidence-based with people like it, they'll adopt it here that idea. We have more focused on internet technologies. We standardized Internet technologies, let's say from there 3 2 up to the application layer and, as I said before, it's a very Bottoms Up approach. We do not write standards first, we we believe in running code. So it's more of it's more of a market driven approach.

C

Ok, this one is really interesting, IETF areas. If you are here for the technical technical purposes, then you should look at these IETF areas. Basically, the work of IETF is done in the working groups is done by the technical work at IETF. Is work is done in the working groups and the IETF divides these working groups into several areas.

C

Here on the slide, you'll see you're, seeing seven seven different areas. These are not. These are not the only ones they may change the next time you come here, maybe you'll see different areas. Each area has a couple of area directors which are appointed by iesg. I think- and these area directors look into these look into the work in this.

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They take care that the working groups within each area are well coordinated and all the internet needs that are all needs of the internet in that particular area are being met by these working groups, and if there is a lack of some technical assistance or a new working group needs to be created on some different technology belonging to the same area, they are responsible for creating it as the first time ITF er I would suggest.

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I would suggest you to have a deeper look into these areas and see and see which areas you are interested in working. Their names are pretty self-explanatory, but I can go through go over them briefly.

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There is this arts area application and real time group, it's basically divided into two parts. First, it deals with the protocols that are delay sensitive, such as real time, applications, voice message, voice or video calling or instant messaging, and then there is the another part, the protocols that deals with applications that are that are not really time sensitive, such as emails or your File, Transfer, Protocol, HTTP, etc, not basically non real-time protocols. Then we have transport area. It makes sure that the data on the Internet is transferred properly.

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It takes care of the protocols that are related to that. It also includes stuff like congestion control. Then we have routing area. It's responsible that for all the routing protocols in the internet, such as BGP, you can find stuff like BGP or OSPF protocols.

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Under this area, then we have internet area, it's mainly related to the IP layer. It's mainly related to the IP layer. It takes care of things like how what are the implications of ipv4 address, depletion or how different IP stacks will work in coexistence.

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It also takes care of how IP layer will work on the new link layer protocols. Then we have this ops area operations and management. It's also basically divided into I. Think two parts, the network management and the operations operations function basically deals with getting feedback from the operators on how the protocols, how the inter I iet f protocols and procedures, are working. Then we have security area, security protocols and mechanisms that takes care of security protocols.

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Mechanisms and this area, basically this area of IETF intersects with almost all other areas, because security is required in all of their areas and the people or participants of this crook are mostly seen working with other working groups as well of working groups of other areas as well. Then we have this general area, which is basically focused on supporting, maintaining and updating the IETF processes and protocols.

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Okay, this is this is interesting, the IETF and consensus. So here at IETF, we do not believe in majority rule, we believe on rough consensus and running code. This is the term you'll hear a lot in the coming week. We believe in rough consensus and running code. So how do we achieve rough consensus say in a working group session?

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The chair wants to know the opinion of the room. The general opinion of the room they'll ask you all to hum for or against a topic. It's just like singing you'll hear the humming voice from people. It's not it's not to say that something will be decided on the topic unequivocally. It's just a comparison to see where the people in the room lie on the spectrum of completely acceptable to completely non acceptable. So it's it's a measurement. It's a rough measurement of consensus.

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Basically, that's how we reach consensus here and that's not the end of a mix. All people cannot make to an IDF meeting at face-to-face IDF meetings, so this consensus is usually taken to the mailing list in order to confirm the judgment and in order to accommodate the people who were not able to attend the working group session in person or remotely by any chance.

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So basically humming is a way of measuring consensus. We do not believe in voting here. We do not believe in reasons raising or show of hands here. This works the best here and for more details on consensus and humming. You can go and read the 7:00 to 8:00 to RFC.

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That's very well-written I suggest I recommend reading it.

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Okay, so I ATF culture.

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The people here are very, they are they're. A self-selected group of highly diverse people and diversity is important because we believe that the worse people are more likely to make better decisions, but also these people are very, very passionate. They are highly efficient, effective motivated smart and they have very, very strong opinions. So don't get scared when you hear in the hallways people talking in a hostile tone or showing aggressive behavior, don't get scared by the intense conversations here just go and say and insert your comments. People will listen to you.

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You have to you have to understand that these people they have been attending ITF since forever, like for decades. They know each other. They know how to talk to each other. They have their different ways. So just don't let yourself get over them. Just jump in wherever you want and you'll be heard. Technical excellence is one thing that is highly valued here, no matter where you come from what your background is, who you work for? If you have something to say, you have a strong opinion.

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You have something really good that you want to share with people. People are very open here and you can go and talk to people. Technical excellence is valued.

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Unlike other organizations, we have a very informal dress code here, wear whatever you want to hear or whatever you feel comfortable. In most people like to wear t-shirts here they are available on the registration desk. You can get them there, otherwise there is. You find very few people wearing suits here, but it just depends. If that's your style, it's just do it.

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People have, as I told people have been attending these meetings since forever. They have a really close working relationships with people, it's time for people to catch up with their friends and colleagues and discuss work and other personal stuff. So it's it's a very close community here, I would say so. Wonderful culture you'll enjoy it.

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So when we talk about the ITF at this level, it actually encompasses a whole bunch of other organizations and, as you can look at the chart there, the ietf is sort of the big blue square, but there are parts it can be broken into parts. For example, someone there's a group called the RC editors who take the documents and then do what we call copy editing make sure all the verb tenses match make sure that the reference is, if it references. Something is a must happen over here, the same time it references it later on.

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It also should be a must happen. Things like that. That's a paid position. The green box represents all of the working groups. Think of them, as you know, it look like alphabet soup. Like you know, floating in soup bowls each group is independent. They are organized, as antral had said earlier, into areas and the directors of all the areas is the iesg, the Internet Engineering steering group.

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It's also part of the ITF, but the iesg is, can is responsible for approving every document that comes out as either an RFC or a standards track RFC or just some informational or other best practices. Kind of note: there's a support organization that takes there's paid professional staff who puts on a be put on these things. There are other legal entities, for example, when you book a hotel room, a hotel 3 years in advance for a thousand people. Somebody has got to sign that contract right.

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You can't expect some senior principal engineer from Google or Facebook or anybody you know to have that kind of contractual authority. So there are legal entities that will sign and enter into legal agreements with, as I said, when you have a thousand fifteen hundred people coming for a week, it takes work.

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There is the most useful of these. Other organizations. Is the IEEE RTF, the internet research task force they're meeting all day in Monday it's listed in the ITF agenda as an IETF registrant, you are free to attend any of the other I RTF meetings. So there are a couple sessions on TLS.

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There's a couple: our sessions on routing, there's a couple: I forget what some of the others are: RTV for: ipv6 conversion; things like that not designed to develop new standards but designed to research how the deployment of them is going weaknesses in them and so on.

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Okay, so um a little bit details on what these groups are iesg, it's the Internet Engineering steering group.

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Yeah, it's basically, it basically looks at the technical management of the IETF processes. As rich mentioned, it takes care of the standardization process like the standardization of the specifications.

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It consists of area directors that are selected by the nomination committee called Nam Kham, typically for a period of two years or so, then we have an internet architecture board, it's more of an oversight committee that takes care of the oversight of the Internet architecture and Internet architecture and other standard processes. It provides the editorial management as well as publication. It takes care of the editorial management and the publication of the request for comments RFC's. Basically, then, we have IRT F internet research task force.

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Well, this one is more related on the longer term research issues that are important to the Internet, as opposed to the parallel organization IETF, which is more focused on the immediate standardization and engineering topics, they're they're, more short-term focus, whereas the research groups are more focused on the long term, projects that are important for the evolution of the Internet, and we have a number of focused and long term research groups. Here one of my favorites of CFR G, that is the crypto forum, research group.

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It discusses and analyzes general cryptographic aspects of security protocols and and to offer, and it's there to offer the guidance on the use of emerging mechanisms and the new uses of the existing protocols. Then we have this really interesting, HR PC, that is human resource protocol. Consideration group it researches whether the standards and protocols can enable strengthen or threaten human rights, as defined in the UN Declaration.

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Of Human Rights I.

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Highly recommend that anything, this one's really interesting then.

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Have several other IR research groups? We have map RG, that is for the measurement and analysis of the protocols group, and we have several there. You can check out on their on their website. Then we have ILO.

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C4, it's responsible for the administrative and operations committee, it's like administrative and operations committee and then, as the name suggests, it takes care of the fiscal and other administrative support for the IETF standard processes.

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Right, we are, the paid staff is so you better join that.

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All right so I'm gonna talk about you know what the what the week is going to be like yeah, I'm C, so.

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The organised events.

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Units of work at the ITF are organized by working group, so there is a working group on tls/ssl security. There are multiple working groups on dns, adding new record types. There are multiple working groups and routing, all of which are grouped into the areas that are mentioned before the most official quote. Important part of the meeting of this week is for the working groups to meet about 130 current working groups. There's a couple dozen that aren't bothering to meet this week, but face-to-face time is very important.

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It leverages the long term involvement and relationships that people have had, but it also is a chance to you know it's a lot easier to stand up at a microphone and ask a question and get an answer and they go wait a minute. What did you mean? um Then? It is to have you know, eight, ten male exchanges, email exchanges right. So the working groups that and that provides a structure for the whole meeting. One of the things you'll find is there are bound to be conflicts. There are groups there are sessions.

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When you want to attend both parts. Every working group publishes an agenda. The first part of every working group meeting is to bash the agenda and make last-minute changes in additions additions.

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But you can look on the working group page to see what's going on, so it's not uncommon that someone will sit there for the first couple sessions, its first couple, sections of a working group meeting and then dash across to you know a different working group where they may be presenting, or they may have other information they may have other in topics that are of more interest to them. I should mention. Every working group has a page on the IETF website.

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The link is data, tracker data, tracker, IETF, org /wg for working group, slash and then the name you can find those. We should have the link up here, but it's easily available. You can say you know Acme home page and you'll get the page that has a list of all of the meetings. Pointers to the mailing lists, pointers to the documents, the RFC s in the drafts that are or were published by the working group and then the Charter.

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The official definition of what the group is working up more informal than a working group is a Bert. What's called the birds of a feather session that the American or English phrase birds of a feather flock together, meaning it's just an informal, although it's scheduled an informal gathering of people who are interested in the topic if, as a result of the meetings they've had and that generally there's just one, they can coalesce and come around with the idea that these are specific things we want to do.

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These are specific standards that we need in a buff can become a working group. There are sometimes boss that are what's called non-working group performing they don't they end up not being working. We discussed it and we're not doing anything with it. There was one on short-term certificates that ended up not happening last.

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What I can think of more informal than that is what's called a barb off, and this is where you meet at the bar to talk about it and it could be a real bar or it could be somebody hosting an event where they will present their technology or present things, and then they'll be above a networking group formed Google.

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For example, quick first came to the ITF for Google hosted a bar valve, and rather than going to the bar, they just had you know they had the house, the hotel bring drinks in and appetizers and they talked about what quic is and why they found it useful and important and why they won't have the IETF make it an Internet standard. Next meeting there was a working group formed.

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There are every area has an area-wide session, so the security area will meet in one area. There's there's at least one transport area meeting those are worthwhile to use as it getting an overview.

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They also tend, if you're not haven't been involved in those activities, it's hard to catch up from a cold start. So it's a mix of yeah. Here's generally. What the area does and then there's really specific, nitty-gritty details about working group issues or area right white concerns, so it's a mixed bag in terms of newcomers thing an IETF white plenary, I hadn't, just looked it up before plenary means that's a meeting where everybody goes and the way they do. That is there's nothing else scheduled.

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If you looking back at the alphabet, soup slide the both of the plenaries, all of these organizations giving a status update and then there's a Q&A period. There's often one or two speakers on the topics are pretty usually pretty interesting, the plenaries they contend to run long so be forewarned, but it's worth attending at least one to get an idea of the overall structure of the ITF and its parent organizations hackathons.

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So I shall mention we. We use the motto, rough consensus and running code. The running code has become more and more important, yeah important at the ITF. So now it started on Sunday it's my it's moved to take over the previous Saturday and the previous Sunday. So too late for all of you guys, but next time they'll be. There are signups and a wiki where some people will say: oh I want to work on serving DNS over HTTP.

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That's a minor small, relatively you know, I've got an HTTP stack, I've got a DNS server, I can build a front-end gateway, and so people who are interested in doing that on these things will post that they want to work on it and various engineers from the multitude of companies will come and work. This is also a place where a lot of interrupts testing happens.

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Things you can test in a small environment. Does this browsers TLS stack talk to open, SSL, TLS stack 41.3. Does this quick server send data that this quick client can consume and so on? It's there's also code sprints, which is for working on the IETF tools themselves. The data tracker website, so hackathons are becoming more and more important. They'll be mentioned in the plenary.

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Probably, as you know, here was the best hackathon event. If you register next time, because you want to write some code register, you get another free, t-shirt and free food during the course of the week. There are various lunch sessions. There is a working group Chairman's session. There are tutorials. Most of them were all today. You'll see us at a lot of them social events. There is one night picked where the local hosts coordinates and sets up a social event.

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Tickets are, like you know, a few $30 us extra, um the most common use of the mailing list. So when you, when you signed up, you were given the opportunity to join the attendees list right one or two attendees at IETF, ed org. The two most common uses of those mailing lists are what kind of SIM cards should I get and I want to travel. Also um also I'm. Looking for a social ticket, I have a social ticket to sell.

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So you know it becomes kind of noise noisy, but yeah. It's a it's a fun event.

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In addition to that official track stuff, there's a lot of unofficial things. Hallway meetings, people have a conversation. The working group, the session time is over. They spill out into the hallway. We have a beverage break in a snack break. You know cookies and soda and one day, coffee, one one part: coffee and water and other beverages, the other part um and so you'll meet in the hallway and you'll say I'll talk about you know.

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I didn't really understand what you meant when you added this extension to the DNS record type pixel I'm, throwing words around on there. um The whole way meetings are very important on trellis. It pointed out that these are people who many of the cases people who've been working together. You can just idle up and listen. If there's a technical, technical conversation you find interesting. All of this stuff is public. um You know, say hey, you know and feel free to approach.

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Anyone who you've seen speak certainly and say: hey what did you mean by this or hey? If you thought about that and people, you know dive right into the conversation with you. There is an ITF application, it's on the Google Play Store and Android Android Store and the Apple Store. It has the agenda, it's it lists it has for each session. It has pointers to the the various parts of the website that are useful. The agenda is available here that, obviously this one would say to agenda. There are sheets posted up by the registration desk.

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There are last-minute changes made up and toll and I think the final changes were just posted to the 102 attendees list. Like a couple of hours ago.

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Marathon editing sessions, I should make tends to be document editing, so you might not get see too much of that I get too involved in as a working group as a newcomer, but often a group will meet in the beginning of the week and have a second session at the end of the week or they'll meet and decide.

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Well, we really want to close out all of the issues that we raised at the at the meeting and let's get a bunch of people who are interested together and just sit down, face-to-face and write this document or update this document again, because it's a lot more efficient than doing it over email.

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Yes, so if you, when you say update, you can select how you should be able to find off that app, it's the same app with just different scheduling data, so you should be able to load. If you load the current agenda, it should auto update.

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Come up afterwards, we'll have a hallway conversation about it, okay, so the working groups. This is where most of the ITF takes place. What takes up most of the week, the Working ITF does its work on its mailing lists. Also, sometimes, discussions for some groups is done on github as pull requests and issues and there's conversation threads that go on there, but there's the written record and then Chase to face and what's interesting about the face-to-face meeting. Is it's not like a typical conference that you might see where someone is presenting something brand-new?

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Instead, they are presenting here's what's changed since the last time we met or here's what's changed or been discussed on the mailing list. Now that brings with it some things that are, you have to do in order to be a good participant, we'll talk about on the next slide. All of the sessions are video recorded in the back of the room. There are friendly people with me, deco mom. They scream it on the internet.

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They record the sessions they're posted on the IDF's YouTube channel, but the point of the face-to-face meeting is to resolve issues that have been it come up in previous discussions.

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Birds of a feather much more informal, it proceeds a working group here. This picture is Mariam the the Educare talking about the edgy team, not really a working group, but follows all the same kinds of things. Sometimes it's a one-shot. They are approved. The area director has to approve above we have a new thing that started last previous IETF called hot RFC. So this is like I have an idea: I, don't even know if anybody else is interested in it. I'm gonna talk about it.

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It's at the second hour or the front it overlaps with the second hour of the social tonight it was list was posted to the attendees list. You can also probably find it off the agenda.

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It's about it currently a thing that about dozen speakers saying I'm interested in this, and it's all the way from remote attestation to how to encrypt and secure file logs to it. I, don't remember what the ten of those were.

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The meeting etiquette. This is how to be nice to others and also make the meetings most useful for yourself read the documents, or at least the documents that you're interested in beforehand: data tracker that ITF dot, org, slash, WG, / working group name so having I have familiarity with the documents, because people won't be presenting the documents they'll be presenting.

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What's changed in the documents that can be confusing if you haven't been following along talk to people, especially after a meeting where you've after a working group session where you have, if you have other questions or you want to be able to contribute something, if you're not comfortable, coming up to the mic, you know catch people individually. The working group chairs will always sit at the front of the room at a table like this, the first two rows. It depends on the hotel layout.

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The first two rows generally have desks and powerstrips one of the chairs is set aside for the what's called the jabber scribe, which I'll mention shortly and the mic. Usually one in the front of the room, is where people talk.

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Or talking because these things are screened and recorded over the internet, we want people to speak directly into the mics. You will often hear, especially as you know, some of us start talking like this, and you can really go eat that mic right. So you have to you know yell from the back of the room like happen with me. At the very beginning, um you have to speak clearly speak loudly most know.

B

Many people are no longer native English speakers. It's no longer a us-centric by any stretch of the imagination. Don't worry about it! If no matter how bad your English is, I guarantee my ability to speak. Your language is much worse right. I'm, an American I, don't speak anything else, my on the dumb American.

B

So okay, um say your name. Every time you come to the mic, say your name!

B

It's important that we have the affiliation and people will say: rich Saul's, akamai technology after a while will come up to the second or third time and I'll go Richard, Barnes, I, Cisco, Richard, Barnes, yeahit's, Barnes, again, um that's kind of okay for people, who've been doing it a lot people you know names and faces, but we want, for the visual record attribution so that if there are some concerns about all you, you shouldn't have talked about that because that's private technology or that's that's something. We have a patent on.

B

We have a video, audio and video record. We also want to know it gives us a way to learn who the people are, who are contributing and so later on. Oh.

D

B

I, remember you: what was your name again? You know you can make connections that way. It's it's a way to introduce yourself everybody. Does it all the time, because there's no guarantee that any one person will be known by everybody in the room.

B

At the beginning of every session, the chairs will hand out blue sheets and then they'll at the end of the session, we'll call them again and historically they were parented on blue paper they're still printed on blue paper. You just put your name and company affiliation, and so that's the attendance record. Those are also posted to the website as part of the meeting materials. Afterwards, when we post the minutes any decision action items that were made, we post you know all of that is posted. So we can look.

B

It's a very, very open, open standards, development organization, it's very transparent, one of the things the secretary it does is distribute all the blue sheets collects them at the end of the day, scans them post them online. So we know who was there and who made who was involved in making a particular decision or coming to a consensus around something technical comments. Questions always welcome the chair will sometimes one of the chairs will sometimes use a phrase saying I'm gonna cut the mic at after you. That means nobody else.

B

You know we're weren't just for time management, don't take it personally. If ya know, only two more people will discuss this document and then we have to move on to the next item. There's almost always more work to be discussed than available in the time. So we spill out. We spill over into the hallway. We take it up on the mailing list and so on.

B

There's a thing called Jabbar. It's an instant messaging protocol. The the actual protocol is XMPP, but it's an instant message. Pidgin is one of the common ones available on. You know laptop machines for any every IETF meeting, in addition to having its video streamed and it's audio stream also has a jabber room and the jabber rooms are named whatever the working group is. You know DNS op at jabiru, etf, Torg.

B

The jabber is a place where remote participants can write something a jabber scribe who has a reserved seat next to the mic, always gets to cut in front of the line and say I'm speaking for Eric who's, not here, and he says blah blah blah.

B

So it's get make. You know it's worthwhile to have a jabber, XMPP client. um Anyone can join the the jabber ie tip that org sites see all the rooms. It's also a good place to ask questions where you can type in there's, usually a bunch of people on the list. There's often sarcasm and snide comments on the list. Don't take it personally right, um but it's also. What did you know?

B

What did Ector mean when he said whatever he said ninety miles an hour, so it's worthwhile for the remote participants and also as a working group, meaning there's a one or two so there'll be a person at the beginning of every meeting picked as a jabber scribe they'll. Also, your person picked to take notes. Those are usually done these days in something called etherpad, which is a shared collaborative editing, not unlike double Docs or Microsoft onedrive. Doc, someone will take minutes. Generally, we only record these days.

B

It used to be a much more detailed, recording, almost a transcript of what was said, but now we record, you know the decision points we had. You know a call for consensus on whether to adopt this document. It passed.

B

One of the things going back the jabber scribe does is also keep track of what's being displayed and type into the jabber room, so the remote participants can follow along when the page changes right. So right now, they'd say you know they could put the title or they could say slide page 21 if you're preparing slides, that's why it's always crucial to make sure you have slide numbers, and some of these do not the I RTF they're meeting as I mentioned all day tomorrow, the sessions are blocked out.

B

They show up in the agenda a couple hours on this couple hours on that and so on. They look at stuff. That's a little further out. So think of this is the research group in the IETF? Is the development group.

B

Area sessions, so this is where I talked I mentioned before about the area sessions, the plenary. These are shots from the plenary, one of the interesting things at the end of the plenary at the beginning. You know thank you for the sponsors they whoever's hosting. It gets to come up and you know get the handshaking. The pictures taken, a rec, you credit for laying out. You know the tens of thousands of dollars. It costs to help, run this and then they'll also announce where the next couple of ITF meetings are. Okay,.

B

Hackathons code sprints other stuff to mention that happens earlier. There is a code lounge, a recent activity, one room set aside for the whole week where people can just come and work on code and that's a guaranteed place, particularly for collaborators and other organizations. You can meet with your colleagues and work on something or try to debug. You know particular open-source issue right. Why doesn't NTP properly recognize this? This particular command? Why doesn't you know, bind understand that resource record type?

B

That's the kind of thing that can happen at the codes at the code, lounge there's a main social event. These slides are from seeing at the Singapore meeting toot music. Oh that's a Singapore aquarium. In the past, we've met at the Hockey Hall of Fame we're meeting in a big sports bar with a 46-foot TV I think this is the sisters meeting at the aquarium.

B

Lots of really good food, free wine in beer, soda mom and it's a chance I can to just talk and socialize the lines for food or always long, but there's always enough food.

B

If it's, this one happens to be reasonably close, but generally last year or two years ago, in London in London, we had to get on bus rides to take it to the the Museum of the history of London, which was kind of in Prague. We actually took a water shuttle over to this really cool. You know, Franz Kafka house place.

B

I'm getting close to the end, and now the slides are gonna, get what we call more like a charts, which is it's full of text, but I do want to mention this. We strongly believe in no harassment hear the word. Ombuds team is a mixture of ombudsman and team, so it sort of wom together. It's a made-up word. These people and Alison mention on you know, going left to right: Alison, Menken, Pete, Resnick and Linda Claire worth they're all longtime ITF people. They are familiar with the norms and practices of how the ITF meetings go.

B

They've had training to handle issues that might arise so, if you're being harassed or you see someone harassing someone or getting into a situation and you don't feel comfortable and perfectly good reasons not to getting involved there or it's resolved. But you want to report it, so the corrective action can be taken find one of these folks. Okay, we have I should mention.

B

Bcp is an exam practices is an example of you know you can solve any problem with a layer of indirection. Bcp 25 will always be the harassment policy. The link may change, but you can go up to you know any search engine type, ITF, BCB, 25 and you'll get a pointer to the current harassment policy. It's more useful. When we have. We have documents about.

B

For example, there is an RFC that talks about the words must may should shall and so on. When printed in all capital letters, they have specific meanings about Interop and standing requirements. There's a BSP CP for that the RFC underneath it has changed because it's been revised, we don't revise an RFC once it's published it's frozen, except for maybe errata. We write a new RFC, but the BCP numbers will always stay the same.

B

Dots and ribbons. Many people will have you guys have most of you I'm sure, if not all have a tag that says newcomers. That means you get special dispensation. You can go up to anyone, say and ask about something or look for a way to help. There are we used to have smiley smiley faces on the I? Don't know why we don't have them this year. A blue dot means that is someone's a chair of one or more working groups. They can put labels underneath em ribbons.

B

There are labels for the other organizations, the nominating committee who picked next year's area directors and so on. So if you see a dot or that ribbon, you can ask, you know, feel free to ask them many of that dot and ribbon people will be at the newcomers reception later this afternoon.

B

All of these slides should be available and we'll make it available. If you go to data tracker that IETF zorg and you look for the meeting materials, if you scroll down to the edgy team, there's the slides also, we were fortune just a couple days ago, someone posted a Japanese translation of these we're working on standardizing them, not so it becomes rote, but so that we can work on translating you know to other languages.

B

So this is you can't read that I can barely read it here, but these are you know. Here's where the tutorials are. All of this stuff should be fairly straightforward and easy to find on the webpage. If not almost anyone can help. You point to it: the people at the registration desk or the RFC editor will have a table in the registration area. There are also excellent resources for finding things almost or reading sources. Oh I'll mention the sisters or you should mention sisters. It's it's a confederation of women who attend the IETF meetings.

B

They have a regular every meeting. They have at least one lunch.

C

Can join the mailing list and discuss whatever you want to. There is an there's. A lunch on Thursday I think that you can sign up for yeah. Let's that's interesting.

B

We're very interested we're very interested in expanding the reach and making the ITF be. You know a welcoming place. It's got. It doesn't have a bad history, but you have you know: computer science, engineering and starting from the US- and you know, moving out, tends to be male-dominated. We're trying to address that in some ways.

B

The most important webpage data traffic that I ATF, not org, remote participation not relevant for you folks, but if you're not able to get travel approval, oh I should mention the ITF meets three times a year once in the Americas, typically America, but Canada America. Last a couple years ago we met in Buenos Aires so that that this V, that's in you know one month away in August July in March, we meet in Europe, London, Prague, Darmstadt a whole bunch of areas. The November meeting is in Asia next month.

B

Next November its meeting in Bangkok right, 1, 1 1, is the phrase. So we have no one here, one there one there for whatever values are here and there there are. If you can't participate or you can't attend the meeting. Oh ok, I'm gonna hit the big red button. There yeah a remote participant, go ahead. Hi.

E

Can you hear me yes,.

B

E

This is a bgt from ECI Telecom and my question, for you is: how do you decide when above becomes a working group, I mean? Are there any rules or guidelines, and one more question is: how do you decide who the chairs are for working group?

E

One more last question is: how do you ensure that particular working group is not monopolized by a certain company or a set of companies? Yeah, that's the questions. Ok,.

B

Example of remote participation, you can't see it because we're showing the slides, but this is a little cute little Pacman video that you know see someone come across when the chairs select them, they come up and they you know, get to eat the mic. um You'll see it in the working group sessions. We just don't have it set up here. So the answer to all of all three of those things is, you know how is what's? How is the decision made to go from a bath to a working group?

B

The area directors pick the working groups they define in their area. Now, occasionally a working group will span multiple areas like quick is both applications and transport, but generally it's obvious what area a working group should be in and set to the area directors to come up with to decide whether or not to charter a working group.

B

Part of that is the board above participants, or subset of them will come up with a definition of what the problem is and a timetable for how long it will take, which tends never to be met um and the kinds of documents they want to and they think they'll end up producing. If the working group area that the working with directors approve that, then the group is formed, anybody can join.

B

There is an announcement on the IETF, announce mailing list and that's where all major publications and group creation and formation when a group working group is done, the group gets shut down no new work, but the mailing list still exists. Those exist forever. How do the chairs are appointed by the area directors? The area directors have the have the power to replace a chair at any point, and that happens if a group is stuck and can't come to any resolution. They'll talk to the chairs and either add a chair or get or replace them.

B

If a group seems dominated by one organization, that's the responsibility to work in group chairs and if it's not working well, then the area directors step in and help strengthen the chairs to limit that kind of thing. I.

C

Click the rough consensus thing, the humming thing really helps because it keeps people from monetizing a particular group. We don't go by a majority rule here, as I said before it's more of a you know, rough consensus, so that helps.

B

Yeah so one of the interesting things about having so we'll do Oh next door, so we'll do a sample hum just so you can get a feel for what it's like and the question. It's always phrased as a couple of choices and then need more information. So the the question will I'll state the question then we'll do the hum, which is you know. Did you find this tutorial useful and say? Yes, no or you don't know yet, because you want to wait till two minutes more when it ends.

B

So please hum now, if you found the tutorial useful.

B

Yes, please, home now, if you did not find it useful, so there right, you could all hear it right. It was clear, oh and please home now. If you don't know, if you don't have enough information to decide so right, the advantage of humming is you can't look around and see who the important people are and vote like them? It's harder to do voting blocs, if not impossible. um It tends to be pretty clear when there was a consensus right so clearly not useful was was not a consensus for my biased perspective.

B

Most even found it useful, so that's great, some still aren't sure. Come that's why, later on they'll be feedback as you get some experience with the IETF week, you'll be able to give feedback to the AG team about how well you were set up for this upcoming week and with that in typical IETF fashion. We are overtime of our slot, so thank you for coming I'll be around on Toby around here and there's various people. You know on the edge of team. You can answer any questions for you. Thank you.

B

It should show up on the other screen nothing instead of.