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TUTORIAL meeting session at IETF103
NEWC/OM/ER 2018

https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/103/proceedings/

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And people come in as they as they arrive, I'm Karen, O'donoghue I'm, a part of the leadership of the education, mentoring and outreach team here at the IETF and I'd like to welcome you to the IETF and also to the IETF newcomers overview.

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The one thing I would like to ask at the end of this there's a slide at the end. That has a survey. We're definitely interested in any feedback that you have about this tutorial and also about your overall experience at the IHF you'll see on the agenda. There's a newcomers feedback session on Thursday at breakfast, so you would definitely be invited to come there and provide any feedback that you have on how the session went for you.

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So without further ado, I'd like to introduce the two presenters for today and we have them on Chow and rich cells. Who will be providing that tutorial for you. So with that I'm going to hand it over to them, and you all have a good tutorial.

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Hello: everyone welcome to IETF I'm Anton Malhotra I'm, a grad student at Boston, University USA. My research basically focuses on the security of internet protocols such as NTP, DNS, PGP, TLS, etc. Here at ITF, I'm involved at a couple of working groups, including the NTP working group, I, also serve as sector security area Directorate within ITF. This is my eighth IETF meetings now wow, that's a lot I just realized it okay and guys. Well, I'm going strong and I'm sure you'll survive it too. So, let's get you out started.

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Okay, let's see so welcome to the IETF. I would like to thank Scott, Brandner and Mike Jones for drafting the earlier versions of this presentation. I haven't ever met them personally, but I'm sure they're great guys. This is an excellent presentation. You'll see.

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Okay, so um there'll be two terms: there are there's first first-timers and newcomers, so first-timers are the ones for whom this is the first meeting, first ietf meeting and the newcomers who have attended up to five meetings. Okay, so this is for the newcomers and the first-timers. This presentation is basically divided into three parts.

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First is the introduction to the newcomers activities that will take place throughout the week of IETF in the second part, there is an introduction to the structure of ITF, and it's I will tell you a little bit about its related organizations and in the third part, will tell you about the IETF week in a nutshell, and for the resources that you can look up for more information.

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Ok guys! This is a very, very important slide. Ietf note well slide. You'll, see it a lot throughout the IETF week, specially at the beginning of all the working group sessions. This note well applies to all the participants of the IETF. It's basically a reminder that all the participants in who are participating at IETF in person or remotely they agree to certain policies. I do not expect you to read all of this right now, but I would recommend you should read it before. You are participating at ITF and the next slide.

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This is a list of all the documents that tells you all the policies that you abide by when you're participating in ITF BC P stands for best current practices. These are all the BCP documents.

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It's about internet standards, processes, working group processes, although groups that are happening here, then there are policies on anti harassment procedures, code of conduct, copyright, BET patents and participation, and then there is this last one on privacy policy.

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It's the latest one I, think that tells you about the how the how IETF handles all the information that you provide to them. If that matters to you, so you can read through all these documents, there's a link on the top of the slide that you can go to and read these documents.

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Ok, so we had ITF take a great effort to help you get you started through the week and to provide you all the necessary resources and information for that, and this is a list of a few, almost all the activities that are specific to newcomers here at ITF. The first one is this newcomers tutorial that is happening right now. It's a one-hour tutorial will tell you will give you an overview of ITF week. Then there is this ITF, quick connections that is happening today on November 4. It has limited space.

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It requires a pre-registration, so you can go to this newcomers webpage and register there. It's a short one to one conversation with the experienced ITF errs it's a very valuable event. I would suggest you should go there, then, immediately after that there is a newcomers, meet-and-greet it's from 4:00 to 5:00 it's for the newcomers and the leadership at IETF. It will they'll be working group chairs. There will be other members from the other experienced members. It's a very, very it's a very informal and laid-back meeting. There will be no formal speeches or presentations.

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You can just interact, it's a very valuable opportunity to mingle weather and interact with working group, chairs and and other experienced members of of the IETF and, most importantly, there'll- be beer. There'll be wine, there be soda and there are the appetizers. So you should definitely go there. Okay, then, okay, how many few have mentors assigned already very few of you I would highly recommend you should get a mentor for yourself.

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The mentors are available throughout the week. They can provide you and they can provide answers to your very specific questions. They can help you network with other people. If you want to talk to someone, you don't want to approach personally, you can tell them they'll help you with that any kind of any sort of questions you can ask them. It's really helpful I did it for the first three ITF meetings of mine and it was really helpful.

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Okay, then we have a newcomers dinner. That's Monday evening: it's not an IETF funded event. It is organized by the Secretariat and I think you have to pay a dollar twenty-five fee for that you can register for this event as well, it's an informal event and then, finally, we will have a newcomers feedback session on Thursday.

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There will be hot breakfast and we would love to hear back from about the effectiveness of all the activities that we are, that we that that's happening for newcomers- and you can tell us what more you would have liked to heard before coming here or anything that you like or dislike, something that can be improved.

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We would your your feedback is really valuable here. Okay, so this is about the newcomers activities.

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What should you expect from this 55 minutes tutorial now, so we'll give you an overview of of all the information and resources that are needed for to get you started here and and be an active participant at the IETF and will tell you strategies to how to connect to people how to approach people about the culture of ITF, but other than that.

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There is a lot more to learn about ITF, about its history, about how to actually write standards, documents and much more, and it's really hard to squeeze that all into a one-hour tutorial, but we will definitely provide you sources for further information where you can go and read more about more about other things in detail. But this short tutorial will be a kick start for you. You can.

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You can survive through the week for this tutorial and there's this YouTube there's this link to the Lee YouTube channel, where you can find information about more advanced topics of ITF, okay, so the ITF in the next any questions so far by the way. It's a good practice! You can come up to my gym! Ask questions: okay, let's go ahead! So the ITF and related organizations I'm going to give a little bit of overview about ITF and its related organizations.

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So first fall very important, ITF mission and I'm going to read aloud the mission of the IETF is to make the internet work better by producing high quality, relevant technical documents that influence the way people design, use and manage the Internet.

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So basically, the ITF mission is to write to deploy and maintain standards for internet technologies that can be used by everyone, ranging from an end-user to Internet service providers or other content providers.

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We try to make sure that the technology that we develop here is scalable, it's effectively deployed and it is secure and the mission of ITF is based on certain principles so I at ITF. We believe in open access, which means anybody who is interested can participate, see what's going on here and if they want to say something they can make their voice heard. One of the ideas behind ITF is to make all the participant the list of attendees all the working mailing lists.

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Everything that's going on all the discussions that are going on the mailing list. Public, so that every can see and participate and comment on it. The other principle is voluntary participation. So all the participants at ITF are highly motivated and self driven towards furthering the mission of ITF.

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Then we have this principle. Itf has this principle of rough consensus and running code?

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So all the developments and work that go around at IETF is based on both sound engineering principles and the actual real world deployment and implementation of all this work. That goes here. So these are the few missions and principle guiding principles of IETF mission.

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Okay, so IETF is a standards, development organization, but it is different from other standards. Development organizations that you might have encountered so, first of all, the participation at IETF is individual based. There is no formal membership criteria, unlike other standard organizations that usually have some membership criterias. Here, it's completely individual based a second ITF does not follow any formal voting process to reach a consensus. It's very unlike other standards organizations here, we believe in reaching consensus, rough consensus through a process called humming and we'll talk about it later in the tutorial.

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We talked more about it in the tutorial later.

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Another thing that differentiate IETF from other stos is that there is no formal role of government or any other company per se. It's a very independent organization, then, unlike other standard development organizations, IDF does not mandate any standards to anyone. It's a very Bottoms Up approach. So it's a very market driven approach. So if someone likes a proposal, they would go, they would develop it, they were implemented, they would deploy it and then see how it works and then provide feedback. And then there is this another iteration where we would improve it.

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And finally, when the villager of consensus, then only the standards are made. It's nobody's mandating any standard on anyone. It's it's a very flexible, bottoms-up, market-driven approach, it's very unlike other standards organization, where they go top to bottom, where things are for standardized standardized and then deployed.

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Itf standards are mostly based on internet technologies and it's unique. Ok, any questions.

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Okay, so ITF is basically the working of IETF is divided into areas which areas are divided are divided based on similar working groups. So, on the slide, you see seven areas, but it's very dynamic. It keeps changing. It keeps changing based on the needs. Sometimes a couple of areas merge to become one or we can introduce new areas if need be. So these are so for those of you who are here for technology.

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You should definitely read the areas that you're interested in there are several working groups under each area, and each area makes sure that the current needs of the Internet are being addressed by these working groups. So each area has several working groups and then these working groups work on on standardizing different internet technologies.

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Names are pretty self-explanatory, but I would suggest if you're interested in any particular area, you should go and read about it more.

B

Ok, so this is a very interesting slide, the IETF and consensus it's very unique and very different from other organizations. Basically at IDF we do not believe in majority rule philosophy. This is a very nice IETF mantra from David David Clarke back it's an it's an old mantra. We reject Kings presidents and voting. We believe in rough consensus and running code and I talked a little bit about rough consensus and running code.

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Rough consensus is an interesting it's it's very interesting because it does not necessarily mean that we reach a everybody agrees to something, but it does not mean that it's a compromise either. So it's somewhere in between it means that all issues are addressed but not necessarily accommodated. So all the working groups are basically led by working group chairs and, and they are responsible, they make sure that all the dissenting opinions are heard, but they do not control or hinder the progress of any of the ideas.

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So basically, humming humming is one way of measuring the consensus in a room. It'd be it's. Basically, the working group chair asks the people present in the room to hum to measure the to just just to see the just to measure the temperature of the room like how many people to just to judge on a spectrum of completely acceptable to completely non acceptable.

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Opinion from the people also, this humming is not the final. This consensus reached in the room is not the final thing. This is taken to the mailing list so that the people who were not present in the room or were not able to participate remotely can also can also tell tell their opinion on the mailing list.

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So the working group mailing list consensus is also taken into account and there's this really interesting, RFC, seven to eight to I would recommend you should go and read it. There's a lot more about how the consensus has reached an IDF about the humming procedure.

B

Okay, so the ietf culture ietf culture is really really really unique. Idf is a very, very old organization and there are you'll find a very passionate, smart and vocal people they're here, as I said, it's a volunteer organization, so the people people here are very, very self driven. They are highly motivated, sometimes it's a little overwhelming, but in the end I I can ensure you that what all of them are trying to make sure is to reach the best decision, so they're just very passionate about it.

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Second, technical excellence and topical knowledge is highly valued here. So no matter who you are where you come from, who you work for? If you have something good to say something really contributing, then people will listen to you, so do not hesitate, always go in and ask questions and share your opinion.

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It's overwhelming, but you have to just go in and do it don't worry, dress code? Yes, so there is no formal dress code, mostly you'll find people here wearing t-shirts and jeans. Nobody will judge you for anything if you are interested in baring coat put it so, whatever you are comfortable in just go for it, then, since it's a very very old organization, people have been coming here for 20 years. They have known each other very well. So it gives you a very, very close, but some people have worked here very closely.

B

It gives you a very close working relationship. People know each other really well. So if you see people shouting at each other in the hallways, they are not fighting with each other. It's just the way that they communicate with each other. So it's a very good way to make long-term good relationships here.

B

Out you're gonna hear a lot of acronyms throughout this ICF week to not worry much about them as you've gettin more involved in ITF activities. You it's an eventual process, you'll learn them eventually, I, don't know all of them either, but there this is a list off. This is actually basically a list of all the working parts that make ITF processes and policies work. So this is not a comprehensive list. This.

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These are a few of them that are immediately may be relevant to you as a newcomer, so I'll give you just for the sake of completeness I will give you a little bit of overview, a few of them so IAB, it's an its internet, internet architecture board.

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It basically provides an oversight of the internet architecture and the standards process for, in a long time, run. Ies chi is internet, Engineering, something group steering group.

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This group is responsible for the technical management of IETF activities and the final approval of the internet standards process. The documents. Then there is IRT, f internet research task force this group. This group, this group, is basically focused on long term research problems in the internet and its parallel organization, IETF. That is focused more on standardizing the immediate needs of the Internet, so both of these work in parallel, there are a lot of IRT F groups. There is CFR g, that is the crypto forum research group.

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There is a humans right protocol group, there's a whole list of your IRT F groups that you can look up and see what you are interested in yo C, that's in IETF, administrative and operational, something this is, as the name suggests, it's responsible for the fiscal and administrative support of the idea standards process.

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I would say you do not have to focus much on all these working parts of IETF for now, just just focus more on the technological areas that I introduced in the slides earlier, but you are free to read about these areas if you're interested these groups, if you are interested in all the information, is available online and with that any questions so far,.

B

Okay, rich thank.

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Okay, I'm gonna talk about what this upcoming week is, like my name is rich Saul's I've been involved with IETF mailing lists for way too long. Many gray hairs ago, I've been coming to the IETF.

C

Almost all of the meetings for seven six, seven years and I worked for a company called Akamai Technologies in Cambridge Mass, it's common. When people stand up at the mic to say their name and company affiliation, you don't work by companies. Every contribution here is as an individual, but it helps identify people and if five people from Microsoft stand up and say one thing and five people from Google stand up and say the opposite thing.

C

It can be useful data, point purely examples, purely hypothetical, okay, the way that week is organized now one thing we're doing this year. This meeting rather is we're meeting in four days. Instead of five, which is it's an experiment. The working group sessions form the core and the main reason for why the ITF gets together. We do it three times a year. You know one one one plan march is in the US or Canada.

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July is yeah.

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Is in Europe and then November is in Asia. The working groups total right now there are about 130, they come and go at any given point we'll be creating some new working groups and closing some down. We don't have groups that exist just to exist for their own purpose. Once they've done what they said, they were going to do. We shut them down. The mailing lists remain active, but the groups don't have anything to do their birds of a feather session.

C

These are informal gatherings to see if there's interest within the ietf community to do something. Usually the thing is: there's a wif meeting and people get together at a bar, typically or the lounge or the lobby talk about something then there'll be a birds of a feather session. We're at the next IETF it'll, be a formal structure meeting and then one or two times after that or working group, one or two meetings.

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After that, a working group will be formed this year there are two boss, they are all listed in the agenda both list and agenda. Irt F is a parallel, but independent organization, quasi independent they're, also meeting this week and I shall mention some of the working groups that were involved there. There are area wide sessions. You mentioned how the IETF is. Technology groups are divided into seven. Currently seven areas they'll be, for example, a security area meeting where anything at all related to security will be discussed there.

C

Someone will say: oh I, have this draft that I'm. Where should it go that will be dispatched to something else? Each working group will either report or have previously written an email of what their status is, and so on a plenary plenary is an old Latin word. That means everybody meets. There's one plenary a meeting, it's in big ballroom in last session of the day where all those alphabet soup organizations that were mentioned before give a short presentation.

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There's often an award ceremony for people, recognition, the Postell award and others the weekend before the meetings are hackathons and code. Sprints we're people, for example, want to do DNS security they'll all get together in a room on the fifth floor and work on things over the course of the weekend. The education tutorials, the the meet and greets and all of those happen on Sunday, and then the bulk of the week is working group meetings, the sponsor whoever sponsors the meeting gets a lunch session.

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Where you know someone, typically, a fellow or a senior VP level will come and talk about something that's of interest to their company purely optional attendance. This tutorials during the week, some and other kinds of sessions there's also social events.

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So this is what the lounge looked a lot. The lobby looks like at almost any given meeting. There's people you know in the front sitting there on their laptops, collaborating maybe being completely independent. What we call hallway meetings where at the end of the session, it's not uncommon.

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You know you come up to the front of the room and you say: hey I, really, like you know, can you explain what some of these awful bit soup letters are and since there's somebody else coming into the room in ten minutes, you go out to the hallway and you discuss it or you say hey. You know I really liked what these mention. When you talked about this proposal, and so those kind of conversations happen all the time, they also have been a great deal during the official stack breaks.

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You know cookies in the afternoon coffee in the morning that kind of stuff there is an IETF application of scheduling app. You can get it at the Play Store or the App Store. You know iPhone or Android. um It lists all of the agenda sessions. It lets you tag the ones that you think are you know of interesting tag, the ones that are interest to you, the agenda. It's posted on the second floor downstairs where you're registered there's. Also it's also posted online. The app and the agenda also have floor plans.

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I couldn't have found this one without the floor plan. One Hotel London meeting: they actually made a game of finding all the meeting rooms because the floor plan was so complicated, and so, if you got your picture taken at all of the meeting rooms, you know you want a badge or something: okay, working groups. This is the heart and soul of the IETF.

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Most of the work in a working group is done on the mailing lists. That means that, in order to participate in the IETF, all you have to do is join a mailing list. It's a pretty low barrier to entry, the group's they're open to anybody. We have you know there. It's a mailing list controlled by mail man, there's spam filters. Occasionally things get through very, very rarely.

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Occasionally the chairs of a working group will pull someone aside virtually and say: hey, you know, tone it down a little you're being a jerk. The face-to-face meetings are for catching everybody up on what has been done since the last meeting presenting in a format like this. You know what changes were made to the various documents and then you know asking for consensus or reviewing them and so on. We try very hard to enable remote participation. You see that the middle screen here is with me deco gentleman.

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Back room people can in the itif web pages, there's always a reference to me deco and you can click on web-based app. That will let you you know share your screen participate remotely, there's a big red button up there on the table. When somebody won't remotely wants to talk one of those two people listed. For example, they raise their hand using the app they get put to the front of the queue as it's called and they anything they say is repeated.

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You know broadcast through the speakers here. They can also be takes a little more advanced coordination, but they can be remote presentations. If somebody has a document, a draft that they want to talk about, but they're unable to attend the meeting in person with the working chairs and need ago, we can schedule that so that's possible boss.

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They precede the formation of a working group. Sometimes it's a one-time deal. They don't always form a working group. We had one on network based file systems, not, and if this, but think of you know Dropbox and its analogs, and we had a meeting with that. We discussed it. No, you know the industry is proceeding along, there's, not a great deal of interest in making. You know all of those different things. You know Google, Drive and Dropbox. All interoperate so would just not do anything they generally meet once that's not quite true.

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They often you know so often once sometimes twice. Sometimes it can be once if it's really obvious, we want to do some kind of work. Sometimes it could be twice. Sometimes it could be once and then wait a year and come again and so on meeting etiquette how to behave, how to be a well-behaved nerd.

C

The documents try to read the ones that are of interest in your area or the sessions that you're going to intend, or at least skim through them, expect that if you don't read them, when the people present, you will be at a loss which is okay if you're just getting started, but because they won't talk about the whole document and all of the background there will just be slides and the slides are all very boring. Black letters for white screen bullet lists. Here's what changed since the last version.

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If you don't know what the last version was, then the changes may not be understanding, but if it's you know, if the last version was non-existent to the new version, then it makes sense. But if you're looking at the changes between version, 15 and 16, knowing what was in version 16 can help enjoy yourself. This is a fun time. It is fairly casual and relaxed, but also intense, remember the sleep Nana sleeps optional point to do that following week.

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um One thing we try to do I've noticed increased emphasis on this as the last bullet, respectful and tolerant towards others, as I'm shall mention. Many of the people who come to these things have been coming since IETF one. So that's there, forty years ago and they've known each other for that long, so they can be brusque, they can be rude. They can be. You know not black aroun talk, but they can be.

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You know not the way you would speak to someone you just met, don't be put off by that: okay yeah the way the sessions work. All of the working group sessions are organized exactly like this room. The chairs, who are responsible for directing the meeting who have previously set the agenda and so on they sit up at the front table here. They can control the displays or delegate it to the person. Speaking the person here, there's usually a pink box.

C

This is there's a camera so that anything, you say as a presenter is live streamed over the internet and is also recorded for you to later. You know it's put up on YouTube later on.

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If you, the typical way things work is somebody will present? Here's what's happened in my draft, then they'll be okay. Are there questions and there's a mic or two mics, depending on the size of the room or six mics? If it's the plenary, um people will stand up at the mic and the chairs will recognize each person in term. So someone will say: oh well. Most of my involvement in the ITF is in security.

C

So all of my examples are in security, so someone will say hey you know you mentioned doing this though, and the key size is like 64 bits. I, don't think that's strong enough, and often especially if you're a first timer is almost a name: oh yeah, rich Sol's Akamai. Now the key size you're saying is 64 and it you say it at the mic. There, your pictures not broadcast they're. Just the words are, there is a person who is called the jabber scribe. There's an online chatroom or remote participants.

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Who can hear the video hear the audio and see the video can ask questions then that person will stand up and say you know in the jabber room, somebody said so-and-so. Technical questions and comments are very welcome. At the beginning of every meeting there will be the the note. Well, the two slides in ancho showed you they'll, be compressed into one slide. What's called an eye chart very, very small print you're not expected to read it or be able to read it, but you have to acknowledge it.

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You've seen it and then you sign, what's called the blue sheet, because they're traditionally on blue paper. That shows that you think you know you understand. The rules of participation and you're willing to you know participate. The blue sheets are, then scanned they're also put all online and available the meeting materials.

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Everything that's presented, all the slides that are presented, including, like save this one, the agenda all of that is stored in a website and available for perusal later on, there's an official minute taker, a volunteer picked you know or appointed or picked by the chairs. The minutes are posted reviewed by the working group posted on the website as well.

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The come back to some of the other details, the I RTF. It's an activity of the IAB, the meanings of activity, disassociated, limited liability corporation, that's kind of all boring. They do more research topics, one of the cool things they do is every year they give the applied networking research prize, which means that in this academic journals, ITF, I, RTF members nominate people and two people get a prize. They get thousand bucks I think it isn't free travel to the next IETF. So it's pretty it's a kind of cool thing.

C

The bigger group meetings, I mention the area sessions, the plenaries and lunch lunch talks are very, very informal. The plenaries usually get most of the people and the area sessions get. You know a lot of the hardcore people who were interested out I, really care about. You know.

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Domain system, so I'm gonna go to all of the DNS areas, the hackathons and code sprints. This is what they look like. The picture on the bottom is very representative bunch of people working at their. You know at their laptop in collaboration. You know. Oh look, you know we're all working in the same github repo or what have you we're? Testing Interop, you know, you'll, see different vendors working and getting things working.

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There is a session I figure out when it is, but then the results of the hackathon which were yesterday and today will be publicly announced. You know, here's.

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What we got you.

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Know the two big hackathons like or one of the biggest hackathons I cared about was you know we got ten implementations of TLS 1.3 working before the draft before the RFC was done. That was kind of cool networking in social events. I, don't think we have a social event this time the picture on the left is from Singapore at the registration time would buy a social ticket, usually $30 u.s.. Something like that. This one was from Singapore at the National Aquarium. It was kind of cool. The picture on the right.

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Yeah right is from an IETF sisters, lunch sys, te RS, that's people who you know women or identify self-identify as a female, are all welcome to come to that. There's I think a breakfast and there's a couple social events, even though some of the resources available.

C

Picture soon, as I'll mention, this is kind of being revised a little bit, but partly the Secretariat are those people in the blue shirts. If you came here earlier, you saw them. You know working at the front, trying to get all the laptops working. They are the people who come and set up all the signage they handle all the registration.

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Anything related to the logistics of the meeting is, is the Secretariat and also logistics over the course of the year. The RFC editor. That's people who you know C C++ is not their first. Language English is their first language they copy edit. They they will track down and make sure all of the references in a document are correct at the subject and the verb agree and all of those kinds of things: the I Ana staff, the internet assigned numbers Authority.

C

Those are people who, again on the web, the files and registration of all of the things such as. What are you know? What is port? 80? That's HTTP. What is port 25? That's the mail protocol. What is 443, that's HTTP all the way through to what are the different kinds of records in DNS. What are the different packet types in IP and so on? That's what the IANA does. The executive director is the person who sits at the top of the legal entity that runs things.

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Somebody has to sign the contract with the hotel for a thousand people right, the Ombuds team Linda wave. There we go, we are we take. We take anti-harassment pretty seriously if somebody is bothered or feels uncomfortable or feels they're being harassed, find Linda or either these fine folks or you can go to the registration desk sam looking for the Ombuds team and talk to them and they will make sure your concerns are addressed.

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Badges dots and ribbons we've stepped a little bit away from this. I have a blue dot. That means I chair one or more working groups. Linda has a green ribbon at the bottom. That means she's on the Ombuds team. The host gets something the color codes. If you see somebody with a dot or a stripe underneath it means oh, they they're in a position of some kind of authority. It may be nothing.

C

It may be a very big deal, but it also means that you can, um if they have a smiley face, which I think they didn't do this year. This meeting that means they're, particularly welcoming and encouraging you to talk. There is also a bowl down by the registration desk with blank ribbons and markers and things, and you can make your own, so the ribbons mean less than they used to because there's a lot of jokes.

C

Specifically, um tutorials are all available in one spot and the meeting wiki we use track. It's a little wiki system right. Anybody can edit pages and add to them. I think, there's a data tracker link. Okay, there's the first time you there's a first time, attendees mailing list, you don't have to be first time. It could be your first second. Third, oh it's been a really long time. What's the ITF like now, anybody can join the list. You can find most of these things off the ITF front page.

C

The sisters group call out in particular is I think that's the only real affinity group we have, and then there were various mailing lists as one for all of the attendees. When you registered, you were asked if you want to join the attendees mailing list. Those of you are on. It have seen, for example, lit that day before the meeting starts. It's mostly about how do I get from the airport to the hotel. When there's a social event, the bulk of the mailing list is hey.

C

Does anybody have a spare social ticket to sell towards the end of the week? Most of the mailing list is I left my charger in those in one of the meeting rooms. Has anybody seen it there's other lists, for you know the traveling companions, if somebody's bringing their spouse or significant other? There is a light program of activities for that and so on.

C

Information so outside of the IATA org ship change so outside of the dub dub dub that IETF taught org website once you start participating reading documents, contributing to million lists and so on. This is really the most important site data tracker, IETF org. It has web pages for every single working group. They all follow fairly they'll follow the same structure. There's a database backing all of this stuff. It generates the web pages on the fly you can see. You can't quite see it so at the lower left.

C

Here is a page on the tool page on the tools, the part of the open-source tools we use to produce the documents on the data tracker on the right. You see, there's the TLS working group. There's you can find lists. You know the active working groups. You can see all of them. So if you go to data tracker by ETF that org group slash group, slash edu, you can get a link to the slides that are being presented here. I think it'll also be sent up for the newcomers list.

C

You can also find it through something the ITF homepage. If you look on the newcomers page and so on the tool, so data tracker is pointing to purple the tools is pointing to the Melissa pointer. um The tools is less interesting until you actually start writing documents. um It also is even then becoming even less interesting because we're moving more towards doing things on public things like github and so on, and building automated script and tooling to make writing documents easier.

C

But without a doubt the data tracker that I each other or eglise is where you'll find all of the technical resources. Pointers to the mailing lists, the mailing list, archives and so on.

C

Remote participation are fine medical team, as I said they do all of the online streaming video. Those are captured, posted ID to YouTube. They are also maintained by the Secretariat on internal ITF servers. We recognize you know we're recently recognized that YouTube videos aren't always globally available. There are countries that don't have that access to that, so we, the ITF, is gonna figure out. You know what to do, but it's just that only just now came up meet Eko web-based tool. Like I said it works pretty. Well, it's gotten much.

C

You know it's gotten its improve over the years as we gave lots of feedback. They've developed us in collaboration with the IETF and its feedback.

C

The network- this is like one of the cool things about the ITF meetings the week before a group of people swoops in set up their own hardware, the local, in coordination with the local authorities. They get their own. You know fiber-optic lines to you, know the hotel and we take over the whole network. So you know Marriott access code, priority accent, you don't need any of that. There's posters down there, the Reg desk, to talk about this in more detail, I think there's one. You know.

D

Right outside here.

C

um It comes as setup. You know by the day before the meeting starts, it comes down on Friday after the last meeting ends more or less. We have various things. We have IETF legacy, which is unencrypted. We haven't encrypted, we have encrypted traffic. If you ever, you know so anything. This is IETF or IETF Hotel IETF nat64 any of those are all run by the IETF. If any of them need a name and password, they are both IETF.

C

There is a terminal room, it's still called a terminal room, even though terminals don't really exist anymore right and there are people there who can help the biggest use of the terminal room is someone has to go. You know print out a document or you know boarding passes on Thursday night, very common, but there's also people there who can help. If you have network connectivity problems, you can create a ticket and then that where people are really Iraq, some of the people running the IETF network have been like you.

B

C

In the IETF since day, one our Postell Award winners, you know, and they still come, volunteer their time to come and set up this network that exists for a week. It's kind of interesting when you go to like a certain you go to Google or something like that, and you can see that it first thinks you're in I think the first day it thought I was in Montreal, so I was getting ads for Montreal restaurants. Then they updated all the information and now Google recognized that I'm in Thailand.

C

So I'm getting you know: Thai Thai at Google Bing, whatever jabber XMPP, it is an iamb, instant messaging client. The instant messaging protocol developed at the ITF. There are a number of clients available to join a chatroom. It is it's as usually it's not usually it's almost always working group name at jabber that IETF that org. That's a group chat. Everybody can join out there. Sometimes will people ask question hey what did this guy mean? Women mean when they just said this or away?

C

If that's really wrong, there's a lot of sarcasm in sake, comments um and the remote part. This is how remote participants, who don't want to do video, get their input into the meetings they can type something in the official jabber. Scribe will come up and say you know so and so on jabber said this: we also in the jabber room. The scribe also says: here's the pre, here's the deck that we're now talking about page 2, page 3, page 4.

C

It also they'll emphasize who's talking at the mic, sometimes if it wasn't clearly said by the person speaking above all enjoy you know, a lot of lot of people smiling a lot of people tired by the end of the week. It's fun it's a pretty amazing chance to change and add things to the internet, which is you know not. You know, 30 60, 90 hundred people in a room can work on something and make a fundamental change right.

C

It will affect literally billions of people. It's cool the sir last time we did this in Antalya and I both gave the survey good both gave that this talk at the previous IETF. We had three respondents and they all said Wow cool, but we're really looking for the we were looking for feedback yeah, you know um say: Oh, Rich's, jokes didn't go over very well or you know whatever. um The point is every all.

C

The responses are really listened to and paid attention to, even if there's only one or two, so we encourage you to get the feedback ed. You team is how to reach the people who organized this and all of the other tutorials there's another one on how to bring in new work. There's various I think there's a transport area tutorial coming up, so okay, I'm gonna end with an example of humming, because it's unusual and it's cool.

C

So what there's a couple things about it that are interesting part of what makes you know the idea different from other stos. First of all, you can't it's really hard to tell who else is humming along with you so like? If we did a vote kind of thing and people raised their hand, Jaya is saying in favor of that, so I want to be. You know, I want to be with him. um You can't do that, so it's much more independent decision.

C

You can't tell especially if you're standing here at the front of the room who is humming so I can't pick out people and divide them.

C

We take the hums as a way to establish a consensus so I'm on the slides on trial. So it has, of course, this being the ITF. We wrote up a document and RFC and what humming me how how to do humming and what it means so well. The way it works is the chair. When they're gonna call for a hum will say: here's the here's, the options and then will ask for the hums. So the three options are: did you find this tutorial worthwhile?

C

Did you not find this worthwhile and then the standard question at the end option at the end?

C

Is always you don't have enough information to know yet so hum now, if you found this worthwhile okay hum now, if you did not find this worthwhile hum now, if you need more information, so we'd say you know, we'd say we had a pretty good consensus that this was a worthwhile tutorial and then the other typical thing is we'll confirm that on the mailing list, because the ITF mailing lists for a working group are the official way everything gets recorded. So with that we are just about out of time.

C

If anyone has any questions for either on trawling myself, um just talk to Mike.

E

Hi I'm, Alice, Russo and part of the RFC editor and I just wanted to point out that the RFC editor is here this week as well as I Anna Sabrina from I Anna. You can find us near the registration desk. Usually if you have questions about what the RFC editor does or what I Anna does we're very happy to speak with you and.

C

You have candy right typically.

E

There's also some candy, you don't have to have a question to come by here. Haven't you I.

D

Thank you very much I'm jogo from Brazil. My question is: has the ITF ever been hosted in Latin America yeah yeah, like two years ago we were.

C

In Buenos Aires, thank you. It.

D

Was cool? It's really neat, just a precision I'm asking the question because I think in the beginning you mentioned that the ITF rotates yeah.

C

D

America and in Europe and in Asia and Latin America wasn't in that rotation.

C

Sorry for my yeah, it has traditionally been the US or Canada, but no we have that in Latin, America and I'm sure we'll do it again.

C

Okay, thank you for coming. If there's any questions, you know how to reach people. Thank you.