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PLENARY meeting session at IETF104
2019/03/27 1710
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/104/proceedings/
A
B
B
B
As
people
probably
know
a
typical
IETF
meeting,
we
have
lots
of
great
tutorials.
We
actually
had
a
longer
tutorial
session
just
today
on
modern
router
architecture,
and
earlier
this
week
on
Sunday,
there
was
a
really
a
really
special
tutorial
where
we
went
kind
of
above
and
beyond
the
typical
content.
I,
don't
know
how
many
of
you
got
to
go,
but
there
was
a
tutorial
about
how
to
create
an
internet.
So
in
case
you
don't
like
the
one
that
we
have
we're
trying
to
teach
people
how
to
build
anyone.
B
If
anybody
wants
to
come
to
the
mic
later
and
tell
us
what
they
learned
in
the
tutorial
about
how
to
create
an
internet
I
think
the
rest
of
us
would
be
very
much
appreciative.
In
fact,
it
was
a
tutorial
about
how
to
create
an
internet
draft
with
tools
that
support
our
new
RFC
format,
so
I
actually
encourage
you
to
so
take
a
look
at
the
at
the
materials
there.
B
A
preview
of
IETF
105
will
have
a
recognition
portion
for
a
number
of
people
who
will
be
transitioning
out
of
various
roles
in
the
IETF
and
then
we're
gonna.
Have
our
typical
open
microphone
sessions
you'll
see
because
we
no
longer
have
the
IOC.
We
will
have
an
open
microphone
session
with
the
ITF
LLC
board
for
the
first
time
and
there's
no
technical
plenary
topic
today.
So
I'm
sure
this
will
be
very
short
and
sweet.
So.
B
C
So
hello,
everybody
welcome
to
Pratt
came
for
me.
It's
your
fifth
meeting
in
Prague,
so
you
know
everything
and
that
you
know
I'm
getting
for
a
very
difficult
position,
because
you
know
it's
7th
time,
I'm
speaking
in
front
of
you
trying
to
say
something
silly
about
Czech,
Republic
and
trying
to
avoid
talking
about
my
company
and
and
guys
I'm,
really,
you
know
getting
out
of
topics.
So
last
time,
I
think
I
spoke
a
little
bit
about
Czech
language.
I
told
you
some
some
chick
words
in
the
ITF
93
I
I
talked
about.
C
You
know
the
Czech
personality,
how
chicks
behave-
and
you
know
this
time.
I-
would
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
area
via
and
I.
Think
you
all
know
it,
because
it's
your
first
time
here,
but
still,
if
maybe
I,
can
share
a
few
words
from
from
a
viewpoint
of
a
local.
So
here's
the
map
of
crack
and
I
would
like
to
introduce
you
five
city
districts
and
they
are
very
close.
C
You
can
walk
there,
although
you
know
you
have
the
train
ticket
for
the
whole
week,
so
you
can
travel
to
do
all
the
various
parts
of
Prague,
but
those
areas
those
districts
are
walkable.
We
are
in
pretty
like
modern
part
called
Carleen.
To
be
honest,
is
not
very
interesting
part
of
Prague.
It
used
to
be
an
industrial
area,
so
their
work
used
to
be
many
more
houses.
Now
it's
turning
to
a
residential
area.
C
One
interesting
fact
is
that
here
used
to
invent
one
of
the
greatest
invention
ventures
of
the
cheeky
story.
Mr.
creavy,
who
created
the
Celsus
adjustable
arc
lamp
which
that
time
was
superior
to
Edison's
light
bulb,
but
other
than
that,
not
very
nice
part
of
track.
One
interesting
fact
about
this
part:
it
was
really
badly
damaged
by
a
great
flood.
In
2002
many
many
houses
collapsed,
which
surprisingly
led
to
a
new
development
of
this
area.
So
many
new
houses
were
built,
many
offices
or
residential
houses
were
built.
Even
actually
this,
this
hotel
was
flooded
in
2002.
C
C
Another
area,
you
probably
know
quite
well,
it's
called
nove
mesto,
it's
easy
to
translate.
It's
called
new
town,
it's
a
little
bit
weird
name,
because
new
town
is
part
of
what
we
call
the
historical
center
of
prac.
So
it
has
been
new
for
more
than
650
years.
Actually,
but
it's
still
a
little
bit
younger
brother
of
City
Park
called
Old
Town,
which
is
more
than
thousand
years
old.
So
that's
why
it
was.
It
was
founded
by
one
of
the
greatest
kings
and
how
a
Roman
emperors
charged
the
force.
C
Who
really
you
know,
was
pretty
important
for
this
city,
so
he
founded
this
city,
part
the
new
town
and
also
another
part
which
which
I
really
like
it's
called
vino.
Haredi.
The
translation
is
wine
yuck,
so
it
was
not
supposed
to
be
a
residential
area
right.
It
is
now,
but
it
really
was
an
attempt
to
produce
wine
in
this
in
this
cold
and
ugly
city,
so
it
was
not
really
successful
and
also
after
you
know,
the
rapid
growth
of
the
city
in
the
like
150
years
ago,
the
municipality
decided
to
turn
it
to
residential
area.
C
So
that
was
the
end
of
attempt
trying
to
grow
grapes
in
in
Prague,
and
we
could
really
fully
concentrate
on
beer,
which
I
think
was
very,
very
good
idea
so
and
it's
still
working
now.
So
this
is
one
of
the
dominant
of
the
of
the
auditorium.
There
is
much
less
tourists
and
in
the
city
center
and
a
lot
of
great
restaurants
and
pubs,
their
second
dominant
is
another
church.
It's
on
the
city
square
called
non
EST.
You
see
Espada,
breath
I
know
it's
very
easy
to
say
that
name.
C
C
Interesting
about
this
city
square
is
that
the
main
building
of
C
technique
is
like
102
meters
from
from
the
church.
So
that's
an
NR
every
work
and
that's
that's
what
we
like
there
another
and
maybe
more
interesting
part-
is
called
Jewish
cough.
It
has
the
same
history
as
wine
art.
It
was
also
part
of
money
at
the
time
and
then
why
not
was
split
into
two
areas.
One
is
now
called
the
Nohara
diviner
again
and
the
second
part
got
a
named
after
one
of
the
most
interesting
commanders.
C
His
his
name
was
jischke,
of
course,
and
this
is
one
of
the
six
european
commanders
who
never
lost
a
single
battle,
and
this
is
not
caused
by
the
fact
that
he
didn't
battle
at
all,
but
this
was
caught
by
the
fact
that
it
was
really
good
by
the
way
he
the
time
he
was
he
was
reading.
It
was
in
the
in
the
beginning
of
15th
century
shortly
after
400,
he
was
leading
a
kind
of
proto
protestant
church
and
at
that
time,
the
idea
that
there
will
be
other
than
catholic
cherry
popper
in
Europe.
C
This
part
of
the
district,
because
it's
kind
of
rebellion,
part
of
probably
the
most
bohemian
prank
of
part
of
Prague,
so
the
source
of
wisdom
called
wikipedia
says
that
this
district
has
highest
concentration
of
pubs
per
capita
in
all
European
districts,
so
I'm
sure
it's
true,
or
at
least
not
very
far
from
compared
to.
We
know
very
well.
The
pops
are
fancy
and
you
can
still
see
some
tourists
there
in
gjakova
will
not
see
any.
They
are
just
locals
and
the
good
thing
that
anytime
you're
first,
you
can
go
there
and
have
a
beer.
C
So
this
kind
of
independent
part
of
pride
and
many
like
free
air
meetings
happenings
festivals,
are,
you
know,
happening
there,
so
some
very
area
that
I
would
recommend
for
somebody
who
wants
to
see
the
local
culture,
the
that
was
the
fourth
District
and
the
fifth
district
is
also
very
interesting,
mainly
mainly
by
the
fact
that
I
really
couldn't
find
anything
interesting
about
it
at
all.
You
know,
that's
that's
amazing
part
of
prac.
It's
really
tough
I
can
illustrate
it
by
a
sign
that
was
found
on
one
of
the
one
of
the
buildings.
C
That's
amazing
part
of
the
city,
so
maybe
you
are
asking
yourself
why
I
chose
it
right.
Why?
Because
I
wanted
to
check
if
you
did
your
homework,
do
you
remember
my
presentation?
Two
years
ago,
I
taught
you
this
simple
sentence
and
I
told
you,
please
repeat
it:
we
don't
have
a
contest
and
who
will
be
able
to
say
it.
You
know
you
live
in
something.
C
So
again,
it's
very
simple
sentence,
baskets
Creek,
by
the
way,
somebody
after
my
presentation
tweeted
that
he
wasn't
sure
whether
the
English
sentence
below
is
a
translation
all
the
way
how
to
pronounce
it.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
clear
that
this
is
a
translation.
Actually,
it's
it's
not
so
that
so
I'm
sure
all
you
did
have
your
homework
right.
So
who
wants
to
be
sure
I
know
if
something
is
too
easy,
nobody
wants
to
be
first
right.
It's
like
going
through.
C
C
It
has
the
magical
letter,
sir,
which
you
know
it's
a
nightmare
for
all
the
foreigners
in
this
country,
and
it's
part
of
my
name
actually,
and
it
is
also
very
interesting,
meaning
again
the
English
words
in
in
parenthesis
bill.
It's
not
it's
translation,
not
the
way
how
to
say
it.
Okay,
so
this
is
the
part
is
called
cap
throat
switch
which
is
promising.
C
You
know
you
would
you
would
believe
there
must
be
something
interesting,
but
but
it's
not
so
the
simple
check
birth
is
hablas
as
a
okay
and
who
will
be
able
to
say
me
to
say
this.
This
name
with
the
sentence
on
the
next
meeting
will
have
a
beer
for
me.
Okay,
so
again,
thank
you
very
much
for
choosing
product
as
your
ITF
CD
and
see
you
at
the
next
meeting.
Itf
110.
B
D
B
Alright,
so
I
have
a
few
items
to
report
on.
There's
lots
more
information
in
the
written
report
that
the
IAE
and
myself
sent
out
to
the
IGF
mailing
list
before
the
meeting
today
we're
going
to
look
a
little
bit
at
some
participant
statistics
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
meeting
experiments
that
we've
been
running,
follow
up
from
the
open
microphone
session
at
the
last
plenary.
A
brief
update
on
the
Ombuds
team
and
I'll
spend
a
moment
on
our
standards
of
professional
behavior
here
in
the
IGF.
B
So
these
are
our
participants
statistics
for
this
meeting.
We
have
about
1200
people
who
are
here
on-site,
234,
first-time
attendees,
which
is
a
which
is
a
nice
high
number
for
an
ITF
beating,
fairly
similar
attendance
to
what
we
had
a
year
ago
in
London
and
63
different
countries
represented
here
at
this
meeting.
B
You
can
see
it
as
you
would
expect
the
meeting
attendance
kind
of
goes
up
depending
on
the
location
and
the
time
of
year
and
the
first
time
attendees
fluctuates
somewhat
in
tandem
with
that,
although
a
bit
on
its
own
curve
and
then
the
last
line
is
a
little
bit
on
the
decline.
So
the
the
true
believers
in
the
ITF
who
have
been
around
the
longest
are
becoming
a
smaller
group
over
time.
B
We
had
a
record-breaking
IETF
hackathon
on
Saturday
and
Sunday
370
people
or
on-site
working
on
44
different
projects,
every
different
kind
of
every
area
of
the
IETF
represented
and
lots
of
people
working
on
projects
adjacent
to
ITF
technologies.
We
also
had
the
hack
demo
happy
hour
on
Monday
night,
where
teams
got
to
present
some
of
the
what
they
had
worked
on
over
the
weekend
and
for
those
who
are
interested
in
joining
in
on
this
particular
kind
of
fun.
We
have
another
hackathon
scheduled
at
the
start
of
the
week
of
IETF
105
in
Montreal.
B
So
please
consider
that
when
you
make
your
travel
plans,
you
don't
need
to
be
previously
involved
in
a
project
in
order
to
get
started.
There's
lots
of
people
there
who
can
help.
You
find
a
team
find
something
to
work
on
over
the
weekend
and
hopefully
help
advance
the
implementation
and
deployment
of
IETF
standards.
B
If
we
look
at
the
trend
for
for
the
hackathon
attendance
is
growing
over
meeting
over
meeting
more
or
less
and
as
I
said,
we
have
had
a
big
jump
from
from
our
previous
record
in
Bangkok
to
now.
So
this
is
definitely
an
event.
That's
attracting
more
and
more
attention
and
participation
from
people
who
attend
the
ITF
meeting
and
also
others
which
is
fantastic.
So.
B
Meeting
experiments
some
people
might
be
aware
that
we
are
running
an
experiment
at
this
meeting
with
unstructured
time
in
the
agenda.
This
is
actually
the
second
different
iteration
of
this
particular
experiment,
so
at
ATF
103
we
ran
an
experiment
where
we
had
some
unstructured
time.
On
the
Friday
of
the
meeting
week,
there
were
rooms
available
that
people
could
book
on
a
first-come,
first-served
basis,
but
there
were
not
any
working
group
sessions
on
the
Friday.
B
We
conducted
a
meeting
survey
after
ITF
103,
just
like
we
do
after
every
meeting
and
the
survey
feedback
indicated
that
almost
nobody
likes
having
unstructured
time
on
Friday,
but
people
were
quite
interested
in
having
unstructured
time
in
the
middle
of
the
week
and
as
a
result
for
this
meeting,
we
scheduled
some
unstructured
time
in
the
middle
of
the
week.
So
earlier
today
we
had
a
block
that
was
free.
There
were
side,
meeting
rooms
again
available
to
booked
and
just
as
a
note,
because
there's
I
think
been
some
confusion
about
this.
B
The
way
that
we've
been
able
to
accommodate
this
and
still
accommodate
all
of
the
working
groups
that
put
in
a
request
for
time
is
by
maintaining
enough
slots
to
accommodate
all
of
those
groups,
but
shortening
some
of
the
slots.
So
we
have
the
same
number
of
slots
available
more
or
less
that
we've
that
we've
had
for
many
years,
but
we've
we've
offered
different
size
slots
in
order
to
be
able
to
accommodate
that.
So
we've
received
lots
of
feedback
about
this
experiment
already
on
the
IETF
list
and
the
working
group
chairs
list.
B
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that,
and
we're
definitely
welcome
to
to
hear
more
from
you.
We're
really
going
to
be
relying
on
the
MTG
survey
to
provide
us
with
a
broad-based
view,
not
just
an
opinion
here
and
there
on
a
mailing
list,
but
to
try
to
get
a
sense
of
of
the
whole
community
or
the
whole
community.
That's
willing
to
fill
out
a
survey
about
how
they're
how
they
like
what
we're
doing
with
the
schedule.
B
What
we're
trying
with
the
schedule
we've
crafted
a
bunch
of
very
specific
questions
on
this
topic
that
are
in
the
MTG
survey
that
will
be
going
out
toward
the
end
of
the
week
or
possibly
over
the
weekend.
So
if
this
is
a
topic
that
you
care
to
voice
an
opinion
on,
please
fill
out
the
MTG
survey
when
it
goes
out.
You
can
also,
of
course,
always
send
me
back
to
the
IHG
at
our
at
our
email
address
and
before
we
run
the
experiment
in
ITF
103.
B
We
announced
it
many
months
in
advance
because
it
was
on
the
friday.
We
knew
that
it
would
affect
people's
travel
plans,
so
we
announced
it
in
May
and
then
ran
the
experiment
in
November.
For
this,
this
iteration
of
the
experiment.
We
wanted
to
wait
and
see
how
many
working
group
requests
came
in
and
whether
we
thought
we
could
actually
make
it
work
without
creating
too
much
conflict
between
working
groups.
B
So
we
waited
to
be
real
specific
about
what
we
were
going
to
do
with
the
unstructured
time
until
the
working
group
requests
went
in
for
the
next
iteration.
We,
if
we,
if
we
carry
forward
this
experiment
at
all,
which
we
may
or
may
not,
we
plan
to
announce
it
further
in
advance.
We
thought
we
would
wait
in
case
we
in
case
it
just
seemed
like
it
would
create
too
much
conflict,
but
it
seems
like
waiting
created
more
of
a
problem
than
then
the
problem
it's
solved.
B
B
This
event
includes
lightning
talks
and
other
kind
of
brief
pitches
to
encourage
people
to
brainstorm
collaborate
to
announce
something
that
might
be
going
on
later
in
the
week.
So
this
took
place
on
Sunday
at
6
o'clock
and
there
were
15
different
presentations.
You
can
check
out
the
proceedings
online.
B
So
it
seems
to
the
ihd
that
people
like
this,
where
we
could
maybe
move
this
out
of
the
experimental
phase
and
declare
it
a
successful
experiment,
but
we're
also
always
looking
for
feedback
about
how
to
change
or
improve
it.
So
please
send
send
that
our
way
and
many
thanks
to
Aaron
Faulk
for
incubating
this
idea
and
for
making
it
a
success.
B
So
at
the
last
plenary
we
had
some
open
microphone.
Discussion
about
behavior
and
conduct
in
working
groups
talked
about
this
at
some
length
and
as
a
result
of
that,
the
IHG
kicked
off.
Some
initial
discussion
with
the
working
group
chairs
in
by
email
in
December,
and
we've
continued
to
kind
of
go
back
and
forth.
B
We
also
have
a
new
member
of
our
on
buds
team.
Melinda
Shore
started
in
January
as
as
part
of
this
team,
and
she
joins
Allison,
Menken
and
Pete
Resnick.
So
thank
you
to
Melinda
for
being
willing
to
serve
and
to
Allison
and
Pete
for
continuing
a
really
important
function
for
the
IETF.
If
you
ever
have
an
issue
with
harassment
you're.
These
are
your
your
people
that
you
can
go
to
to
to
get
guidance
and
advice
and
to
speak
with
someone
in
confidence.
B
We
are
really
striving
to
create
and
maintain
an
environment
here
where
people
feel
included
and
where
everyone
feels
like
they
get
treated
with
dignity
and
respect.
We
have
a
number
of
different
policies
and
guidelines
that
go
into
more
detail
about
this,
so
I
encourage
you
to
to
check
them
out,
and
the
Ombuds
team
that
you
just
saw
on
the
screen
can
be
reached
at
their
email
address
and
there's
more
information
about
them
on
their
website.
B
As
I
said
at
the
top
there's
a
bunch
more
information
covered
in
our
online
report
and
in
the
reports
from
the
various
other
bodies.
So
if
you
want
more
details,
please
take
a
look
there
and
we're
always
writing
updates
about
various
things
on
the
blog,
including
a
preview
of
this
meeting.
There'll
be
highlights
from
this
meeting
posted
there
as
well,
and
with
that
I'd
like
to
invite
our
outgoing
and
incoming
iron
chef
chairs
to
come
on
up.
E
It's
a
good
way
to
check
you
can
retire,
somebody
don't
touch
them
all
right,
so
on
Collins
and
I
are
going
to
tell
you
about
the
IRT
F
ATF,
104
and
first
I
want
to
say
thanks
to
the
IRT
F,
it's
been
amazing.
Thank
you,
Prague,
I'm,
very
happy
to
have
it.
My
term
ending
here.
I
have
a
big
lump
in
my
from
that
and
I
wanted
to
just
reflect
a
little
bit
about
what
happened
in
these
two
years.
E
So
it's
actually
transitioning
to
not
proposed
now
a
new
quantum
internet
proposed
research
group
that
just
started
and
a
bunch
of
you
went
to
the
tutorial
and
I
hear
it
was
really
fun
and
then
unlive
inning
and
then
one
that's
starting
and
we'll
meet
this
week
later
in
the
week.
The
computation
in
the
network
proposed
research,
group
and
I
also
think
of
this
as
two
years
of
really
wonderful
community
growth
for
IRT
F,
but
also
for
the
AI
family.
E
E
And
then
these
new
research
group
chairs
that
I've
mentioned
I'll
show
you
a
list
of
people
I'll,
just
flash
it
by
the
workshop
in
in
the
a
in
the
applied
networking
research
workshop
workshop
in
eighteen
last
year
had
an
innovation
suggested
by
its
chairs
of
meeting
during
IETF
week
and
as
a
result,
there
were
well.
There
were
a
hundred
participants
at
that
they
were
either
new
to
the
IETF
or
were
very
entirely
or
or
had
been
only
very
rarely,
and
many
of
them
stayed
and
participated.
So
I
think
this
has
been
a
good
innovation.
E
We're
going
to
continue
this.
There
was
a
lot
of
of
growth
of
communities
because
of
IRT
F
groups
going
to
the
hackathons
and
I
just
want
to
call
it
especially
HR,
PC
and
think
to
thing
research
group
among
the
many
as
using
those
hackathons,
extremely
well.
Map
RG,
which
is
the
measurement
research
group,
not
only
had
tremendous
presenters
but
also
grew
a
great
big
repository
of
data
that
you
should
take
a
look
at
and
even
though
documents
are
often
the
story
for
the
ITF
for
the
IR
tip.
E
Massive
massive
massive,
pervasive
monitoring
is
a
an
attack,
thought
that
I
just
created,
and
also
one
from
the
women
the
women
in
technology
dot.
That
says.
Yes,
we
can,
for
net
nods
now
over
to
college
Colin's
been
at
the
ITF
for
quite
a
long
time
and
he's
done
lots
of
different
working
group
chair
ships
and
contributions.
Largely
in
transport,
it's
been
observed
that
we've
had
a
lot
of
transport
folks
become
IRT,
F,
chairs
and
I.
F
Thank
you,
Thank
You,
Alison
I
am
I
have
to
say
honored
and
a
little
humbled
to
be
selected
and
very
much
look
forward
to
working
with
the
community,
although
I
think
who
may
treat
the
absence
of
a
dot
as
an
excuse
to
pretend
I
was
never
nominated
too
late.
All
right,
so
the
first
thing
I
would
like
to
do
is
say
very,
very
big.
Thank
you
to
Alison
all
her
hard
work
over
the
last
couple
of
yes.
F
Our
son,
I
think,
has
has
worked
very
very
hard
to
increase
the
diversity
in
the
IRT
F.
We
have
a
much
more
diverse
set
of
people
in
the
research
group
chairs
in
the
IR
s
G,
and
a
much
much
more
diverse
set
of
research
groups
and
topics
which,
having
is
very,
very
valuable,
very
important
to
increase
the
diversity.
This
way,
she's
chatted
some
very
interesting,
very
exciting
new
research
groups.
I
think
in
particular
that
the
quantum
internet
group,
which
I
think
you
charted,
is
gonna.
F
Think
she's
also
done
a
very
good
job
with
the
applied
networking
research
prize,
and
we
had
some
talks
earlier
in
the
week
in
the
ICF
open
meeting
and
they're
very,
very
excellent
research
prize
talks
there
and
also
growing
and
enhancing
the
visibility
of
the
applied
networking
research
workshop,
which
I
think
is
a
really
great
way
of
bringing
people
from
from
the
research
community
in
getting
them
to
talk
to
the
standards.
Community
I
think
it's
very
beneficial
for
the
long-term
health
of
both
organizations.
F
F
Okay,
so
just
have
to
forward-looking
things
that
I'd
like
to
mention
before
we
finish
the
first,
the
applied
networking
research
workshop.
You
know
it
happened.
It's
been
running
for
the
last
couple
of
years
last
year
in
Montreal
it
took
place
on
the
Monday
and
we
had
some
really
good
interactions.
There
will
be
happening
again,
coincidentally
in
Montreal,
since
we're
going
back
this
summer
again
in
in
the
Monday
of
the
ITF
week.
This
is
an
academic
research
workshops.
The
the
results
will
be
published
by
the
ACM.
F
F
Don't
see
him
he's
here
somewhere
this
week
and
it
is
a
long
term
ITF
participant
and
Philip
a
girl
from
University
of
Massachusetts
in
addition,
which
perhaps
slightly
smaller
interest,
but
that
there
is
a
workshop
on
evaluation
performance
in
interoperability
of
quick
which
will
relate
to
a
large
number
of
people
in
the
transport
area.
The
submission
deadline
on
the
15th
of
April,
which
allows
ëget
in
the
oak
pot,
are
running
and
again,
if
you
have
research
work
or
an
interesting,
quick,
please
consider
submitting
to
that
workshop.
G
G
G
Once
we've
actually
taken
what
we
thought
might
work
and
actually
check
to
see,
did
it
actually
do
what
we
wanted
it
to
do,
all
of
which
is
going
to
be
happening
this
year,
so
project
status
discussion
happens
on
the
XML
to
RFC
dev
list,
because
we're
really
talking
about
the
tools
that
have
been
in
play
under
development
over
the
last
couple
years.
I
wanted
to
do
a
quick
shout-out
to
Calais
software.
They
are
our
partner
of
Adobe
and
they've,
donated
to
the
RFC
editor
of
the
software.
G
We
needed
to
create
PDF
a3,
there's
not
a
lot
of
libraries
out
there
that
will
create
you,
a
PDF
a3
file.
As
of
Monday.
The
data
tracker
accepts
v3
XML.
If
you
get,
you
know
really
enthusiastic
about
this,
you
can
go
to
the
XML
to
RFC
website,
give
the
experimental
page
and
say
you
know
what
I
have
a
v2
file
I
want.
Could
you
make
it
v3
do
the
thing
and
it
will
automatically
create
a
v3
file
which
you
can
submit
and
say
well,
I
want
to
see
what
the
HTML
is.
G
G
Optimistically
I'm
told
that
that
will
happen.
You
know
cluster
238,
we
really
hopeful
will
come
come
out
in
May,
but
you
know
things
get
delayed,
sometimes
and
I'm.
Just
you
know
it's
coming
out
in
August
I
know
it's
coming
out
in
August
I'm
just
waiting
for
it,
so
the
timing
is,
is
definitely
open
to
a
little
bit
of
question
right
now.
There
is
an
inordinate
amount
of
behind-the-scenes
work
going
on.
So,
if
you
look
at
the
RFC
editor
report,
for
example,
you'll
see
that
the
RFC
production
center
is
not
meeting
the
SLA.
G
This
is
something
we
knew
that
would
happen
and
that
we've
been
trying
to
prepare
people
for
for
quite
some
time.
We're
not
missing
it
by
a
lot,
but
just
enough
to
turn
that
that
X
to
be
read,
so
that's
not
going
to
stop
either
at
least
for
the
next
few
months
so
be
aware.
But
there
is,
there
is
a
slowdown
in
getting
stuff
out
while
we
try
and
make
sure
that
we're
ready
for
v3.
G
That's
the
highlight
of
what
I
wanted
to
tell
you
about.
There's
a
couple
other
slides
here
in
my
deck,
because
I
also
told
folks
on
a
completely
unrelated
fashion,
that
I
was
going
to
start
a
basically
a
vendor
satisfaction
survey
to
see
how
the
RFC
production
Center
is
doing
and
I
promised
you
an
update
by
ITF
104,
so
that
update
is
in
these
slides.
If
you've
got
questions
about
it,
you
can
look
at
that
and
you
can
drop
me
a
note
if
you
want
any
more
information
that
I
can
share.
G
H
Our
Silver
Sponsor
alchemy
very
fun.
Thank
you
very
much
and
a
bronze
sponsor
the
best
VPN
calm
and
cognate
connectivity,
sponsors,
dial,
Telecom
and
t-mobile.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
circus.
Of
course
they
make
everything
happen
for
us.
So
thank
you,
and
we
also
want
to
make
sure
we
faked
our
equipment
sponsors,
because
it
takes
a
lot
of
equipment
to
actually
bring
the
circuits
and
everything
in
to
make
everything
work,
cisco
again
and
juniper
networks.
H
H
H
Many
a
pretty
much
appreciation
for
all
that
you
do
and
regarding
sponsorship,
changes
for
the
ITF
Kim
Borden,
more
most
of
some
of
you
I
would
say,
have
a
chance
to
meet
Ken.
During
the
last
year.
His
contract
has
concluded
as
the
IETF
sponsorship
sponsorship
fundraiser,
and
the
board
is
really
thanks
to
Ken
for
all
of
his
hard
work.
He
did
a
lot
while
he
was
here
during
the
last
year
and
as
we
move
on
the
board,
the
incoming
border
was
official.
H
Mel
will
take
time
to
actually
develop
a
longer-term
plan
for
what
they
see
as
the
in
sponsorship
for
and
fundraising
goals
for
the
IETF
LLC.
So
that's
coming
and
in
the
meantime,
if
you
are
interested
in
doing
any
type
of
sponsorships,
please
see
me
Portia
when
Stanley
thank
you
and
I'm
also
the
generic,
it's
generic,
but
it
still
comes
to
one
person.
The
sponsorship
email
addresses
sponsorship
at
IETF
org
our
future
meeting
venues.
As
you
can
take
a
look
there.
I
We
have
a
focus
on
five
areas,
really
to
get
the
LLC
up
and
running.
It's
like
a
brand-new
baby.
You
got
to
feed
and
take
care
of
and
make
it
happy
even
finalizing
the
financial
transaction
or
transfer
from
I
sock.
That
was
probably
one
of
the
key
things
to
accomplish
in
2018,
because
I
sock
was
providing
significant
portions
of
the
startup
capital.
If
you
will
for
the
IGF
LLC.
I
That
was
a
very
long
road
to
get
there,
but
we
got
there
and
the
money's
in
the
bank
and
we
cashed
the
check
so
yeah
we've
also
as
part
of
the
transition.
There's
a
number
of
RFPs
for
services
such
as
a
Secretariat
that
we're
coming
up
do
as
many
people
know
the
contracts
we
have
for
these
services
are
periodically
required
to
be
re
bid
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
the
best
deal
overall
for
the
ITF
in
particularly
some
of
them
were
up
in
2018
for
a
rebid.
I
As
pro
process,
but
because
of
the
LLC
coming
on
board
and
being
founded,
one
of
the
things
we
did
is
we
stalled
many
of
them
and
delayed
them
into
2019
with
temporary
patches,
and
so
we
sort
of
kicked
it
over
to
the
incoming
board
to
say
deal
with
this
when
you're
fully
constituted
and
you're
up
and
running
with
all
your
governance
and
financial
models
in
place,
and
so
that
will
be
taking
place
this
year.
So
this
will
be
the
year
of
the
RFP,
I
think
and
2019.
I
The
other
thing
we
will
also
be
doing
Porsha
is
our
interim
director
who
she's
always
had
that
term
techride
minute
and
that's
because
part
of
the
transition
plan.
The
plan
has
always
been
that
there
will
be
a
search
done
for
the
executive
director
portion
up
in
the
interim
area
of
IIED.
Sorry,
thank
you
and
we
renamed
it
the
executive
director,
because
it
better
fit
with
a
role
within
an
LLC,
and
so
we
could
understand
it.
Work
with
sister
works,
we're
gonna
be
doing
search,
and
so
that
will
be
taking
place.
I
So
if
you
are
interested
the
there
will
be
a
process
without
and
and
stay
tuned,
it
will
be
happening
very
shortly.
The
other
thing
we've
been
doing
has
been
getting
ready
for
the
incoming
new
board.
It's
been
a
lot
of
time
to
roll
big
change
and
the
NomCom
did
their
job
and
the
ask
you
did
their
job
and
I
talked
to
their
job.
They
picked
us
a
slate
of
five
candidates
and
we've
been
getting
them
prepared
and
ready
to
assume
their
job
today,
so
I'm
out
of
it
and
they're
into
it.
I
The
other
big
important
thing
that
was
really
made
clear
during
the
is
or
to
working
group
discussions
was
transparency
is
huge
here.
You
know
we
didn't
want
to
create
an
LLC
that
was
gonna,
go
off
and
be
secretive
and
closed
and
and
just
issue
you
know,
orders
down
from
on
high,
just
like
the
the
compliance
process
was
important
to
I
sock.
The
transparency
process
was
important
to
the
community,
and
so
we've
been
working
very
hard.
I
One
of
the
very
first
actions
taken
by
the
board
when
they
started
up
in
August
was
to
declare
that
we
will
have
public
meetings
and
we've
been
doing
that
all
along,
including
when
we
had
a
in
the
fall.
We
December
we
had
a
face-to-face
for
companies
and
for
the
portions
of
that
which
are
not
confidential,
use
a
lot
of
what
we
deal
with
is
confidential
legal
contracts,
personnel
type,
stuff
and
financial
stuff.
We
have
to
be
careful
and
keep
that
confidential
for
that
stuff.
That
is
not
confidential.
It
was
wide
open
for
participants.
I
We
did
have
a
lot.
People
call
it
and
join
in
as
well.
The
meeting
minutes
that
we
take
during
that
are
all
made
public
and
published,
so
the
meetings
are
opposed
to
our
website
the
agenda,
the
goal
we
put
a
stake
in
the
ground
as
they
will
always
come
out
a
week
ahead,
so
please
join
in
and
follow
along.
If
you
want
to
know
more
about,
what's
going
on
inside
the
LLC
and
I
have
the
pleasure
of
announcing
our
in
welcoming
our
five
new
board
members.
We
have
Jason
Livengood
in
the
middle.
I
There
he's
been
selected
by
the
incoming
board
as
their
chair.
We
have
Sean
Turner,
who
is
decided
to
become
the
Treasury
Peter
Fred
roasts
over
your
left.
My
right,
listen,
Cooper!
You
may
have
met
her
and
Maya
and
I'm.
Forgive
me
my
I
cannot
do
this.
One
ad
I
do
Kovach,
okay
and
that's
the
report
from
the
outgoing
board.
I
J
J
Think
that
the
community
really
appreciates
it,
it
was
really
an
unprecedented
kind
of
transition
that
we
just
went
through
from
the
IOC
to
this
interim
board.
With
a
great
deal
of
uncertainty
and
I
appreciate
know,
the
community
does
appreciate
your
navigation
of
that
and
I.
Don't
know
when
I
do
black
things
all
right,
so
if
I
could
ask
you
each
to
come
up
Ted
and
Gonzalo,
please
and
you're.
Obviously
your
name
actually
says
your
name
here.
So
this
is
the
the
you'll
get
a
plaque
like
this,
but
with
your
actual
name
there
so
first.
J
And
so
expected
focus
area
for
the
board
in
the
coming
year.
We
have
rather
a
lot
of
things
to
do
I
think
as
an
understatement
and
I
tried
to
just
sort
of
list
the
high-level
bits
here.
Obviously,
we
need
to
hire
a
full-time
or
permanent
executive
director
that
sort
of
job
number
one
and
a
lot
of
things
can
flow
from
that.
We
also
know
that
we
need
to
focus
on
the
sort
of
revenue
side
of
things.
J
If
you
will
certainly
Portia
mentioned
a
bunch
of
our
generous
sponsors
beforehand,
but
our
intent
is
to
grow
that
and
to
grow
and
build
a
foundation
of
support
for
the
ITF,
and
we
would
sort
of
put
those
in
two
different
buckets
a
few.
Well,
one
would
be
sponsorship,
which
was
traditionally
what
we've
done
and
then
fundraising,
which
is
really
more
about.
J
You
know
sort
of
the
the
other
aspects
of
the
the
endowment
and
so
on,
and
those
two
things
will
go
hand
in
Hey
in
some
ways,
but
there
may
be
very
different
sort
of
target
groups
that
we
go
after
to
try
to
fundraise
and
of
course,
there
are
quite
a
number
of
policies
and
other
sorts
of
legal
things
that
we
need
a
compliance
program,
and
these
are
needed
even
just
to
get
things
like
insurance
to
cover
meetings
like
this.
You
know.
J
If
someone
has
a
problem
and
they
you
know
injure
themselves,
you
need
liability,
insurance
and
there's
a
whole
host
of
things
like
this
that
we
will
need
to
hire
people.
We
will
need
to
comply
with
them.
You
know
IRS
rules
in
the
United
States
for
tax
purposes,
and
so
on.
So
we
need
to
create
all
of
those.
Many
of
those
are
already
in
the
the
eye
asset
to
documents,
so
you
can
get
a
sense
of
what
they
are,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
them.
J
Luckily,
we've
got
some
other
very
experienced
board
members
that
are
here
that
are
on
other
boards
and
have
experienced,
and
there
are
a
lot
of
best
practices
that
we'll
be
using
and
then
finally,
we
have
a
lot
of
services
that
are
coming
up
for
rebid
in
2019,
including
the
secretariat
and
a
small
thing
and
I
would
say
throughout
all
these
things,
particularly
around
the
policies,
compliance
and
especially
the
rebid.
We
are
going
to
expect
and
need
and
rely
upon
a
lot
of
feedback
from
the
ITF
community.
J
We
don't
intend
to
do
this,
as
Glenn
said
in
terms
of
the
transparency
requirements
to
do
this
in
a
vacuum,
but
we
are
going
to
genuinely
need
and
be
asking
for
your
requirements.
Your
feedback
in
different
areas
and
I
would
encourage
folks
to
do
that,
because
these
are
some
big
decisions
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we,
you
know,
make
make
the
right
decisions
for
a
lot
of
the
supporting
infrastructure
and
and
people
that
the
ITF
depends
upon,
and
so,
in
terms
of
you
know,
contact
information.
You
know
all
the
standard
stuff
there's
a
website.
J
Of
course,
you
know
email
address
for
public
feedback.
You
can
reach
after
that
address
at
any
time
or
any
other
board
members
individually,
of
course,
but
if
you
send
a
mail
there,
it
goes
to
all
of
the
board
members,
no
one
else
other
than
the
board
member,
so
it's
private
to
within
the
board,
and
you
can
give
us
any
feedback
that
you
like
or
ask
any
questions
and,
of
course
you
can
join
any
of
the
board.
Meetings
will
certainly
be
continuing.
J
K
L
Yes,
so
basically
I
will.
This
is
this
is
my
goodbye
speech
I
would
say,
because
so
we
have
a
new
set
of
trustees
and
you
see
the
faces,
I
guess
on
the
screen.
I
guess
most
of
you
already
know
them
and
I'm
very
happy
that
we
have
this
D
set
of
people.
Also,
today
we
had
an
election,
which
was
basically
the
last
thing.
I
executed
as
a
trust,
chair
and
game
was
selected
elected
as
a
statue
and
Kathleen
as
a
treasure
and
yeah.
I
L
M
Alright,
on
behalf
of
the
absent
Scott
Mansfield
I'm,
giving
the
NomCom
update
for
ietf
104,
as
you
can
see,
there
says,
make
sure
someone
is
holding
the
ladder
and
Scott
had
a
small
accident
that
involved
a
very
quick
descent
from
a
ladder
that
keeps
him
from
travelling
for
the
couple
of
months
so
but
he's
here
in
on
Medeco,
and
we
wish
you
were
here
in
person,
so
I'm
happy
to
report.
All
of
the
cats
are
in
all
of
the
boxes.
M
We
had
I
believe
54,
unique
nominees
for
20
different
positions,
so
the
NomCom
managed
to
get
all
of
that
done.
I
think
that's,
probably
a
record
for
any
NomCom
and
we
are
finished
for
now.
So
we
are
in
quiet
mode.
If
something
comes
up,
we
will
be
reactivated
for
the
for
interim
actions,
but
otherwise
we're
going
to
be
handing
off
to
the
next
NomCom.
M
M
He's
found
fine
folks,
aside
from
doing
the
things
that
you
see.
Obviously,
at
the
meetings
also
were
part
of
weekly
teleconferences
lots
of
email
and
many
deliberations,
and
these
are
the
confirmed
results
of
the
NomCom
process
for
2018-2019,
and
please
give
these
folks
a
round
of
applause
as
well.
We're
very
appreciative
for
their
service.
M
I'd
also
like
to
thank
the
community
without
the
community,
the
NomCom
process
would
not
go
well
at
all
all
of
the
people
that
ran
the
our
gauntlet
of
long
questionnaires
and
perhaps
grueling
interviews.
We
thank
them.
The
community
members
also
who
provided
the
large
amounts
of
feedback
that
we
get.
We
do
read
all
of
that.
It's
all
kept
in
the
data
tracker
and
we
use
that
to
guide
our
decisions.
N
I'm
done
only
a
couple
of
words:
I
don't
really
have
a
slide.
It
was
a
busy
year,
as
Peter
mentioned
as
and
Scott
did
a
really
really
good
job.
So
I
only
hope
that
in
the
incoming
year
that
we
can
do
as
good
of
a
job
as
Scott
did,
he
was
very,
very
organized.
We
had
a
lot
of
feedback,
many
many
many
many
hours
reading.
All
of
your
feedback
was
much
appreciated.
N
We
could
not
do
this
without
the
support
of
all
of
the
members
who
were
voting.
The
members
from
the
various
bodies
to
help
us
along
the
way
Peter
did
a
great
job
from
you
know.
This
is
a
third
year
he's
basically
here
doing
all
this
work,
so
I
really
appreciated
all
of
Peter's
guidance,
and
so
just
hope
you
can
do
a
good
job
coming
up.
Please
if
you're
able
to
please
come
be
part
of
the
this
upcoming
year,
is
a
lot
of
work
at
the
very
rewarding.
N
B
O
Thank
You
Alyssa
I'm,
Andrew,
Sullivan
I'm,
the
president
and
CEO
of
the
Internet
Society
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
Jonathan
B
pastel
service
award,
which
is
something
that
the
Internet
Society
gives
out.
It
was
established
by
the
Internet
Society
to
honor
the
individuals
who
who
make
the
internet.
You
know
the
Internet
is
a
profoundly
human
thing,
it's
something
that
depends
on
people
to
make
it
happen,
and
it
affects
a
lot
of
people.
O
I
never
met
Jon,
Postel,
but
I
know
him
somehow
through
the
work
that
he
did
and
the
legacy
he
left
us,
and
there
are
people
on
the
internet
who
do
this
for
us,
they
make
extraordinary
efforts
and
they
give
us
things.
They
leave
us
things
behind.
So
we
have
this
award,
it's
it's
in
his
name
and
you
know
people
get
a
trophy
and
they
get
some
money,
but
mostly
they're
recognized
as
one
of
these
people.
O
We
are
very
fortunate
to
have
this
marvelous
tool
and
we're
very
fortunate
that
there
are
people
who
work
so
hard
to
give
it
to
us.
We
want
people
who
have
given
sustained
and
substantial
technical
contributions
and
who
also
serve
the
community.
The
nominations
are
open
until
the
15th
of
May
and
you
can
go
to
the
URL
there
on
the
screen
and
nominate
them
thanks
a
lot.
I
So
keep
it
quick,
we're
all
gonna
go
to
Montreal
again,
who
loved
Montreal
last
summer.
I
did
the
food
was
awesome,
the
weather
was
great.
Let's
hope
the
weather
holds
as
well
as
they
did
last
time,
because
I
had
a
great
time.
I
think
I
probably
put
on
five
pounds,
because
the
food
was
so
darn
good
in
Montreal,
anyways,
we're
hosting
the
game.
We're
gonna
have
a
social.
So
look
for
news
on
that.
It
should
be
a
lot
of
fun.
I
B
So
I
wanted
to
spend
a
minute
here
to
remember
a
dearly
departed
member
of
our
community,
professor
B
Jun,
who
sadly
passed
away
in
February.
Far
too
soon.
Many
of
you
knew
professor
B
from
his
work
in
the
savvy
working
group
and
on
other
topics,
including
ipv6
and
Software
Defined
Networking
from
his
post
at
Xinhua
University.
He
was
also
a
significant
contributor
to
the
development
of
the
Internet
in
China.
So
please
join
me
in
a
moment
of
silence
to
remember
professor
Beecham.
P
Hi
Eric
Griffin
has
been
a
contributor
to
the
ATF
and
to
the
Internet
in
general,
for
a
very
very
long
time.
He
has
about
60
RFC's
that
he
has
published
most
of
them
in
the
routing
area.
The
first
one
was
RC
827.
This
was
where
he
documented
EGP
the
exterior
gateway
protocol.
This
was
a
protocol
that
held
the
internet
together
before
BGP
even
existed.
I
met
Eric
personally
about
many
many
years
after
that.
That
RC
was
published
in
1982.
P
But
it's
how
I
met
him
in
person
we
were
both
working
at
Cisco.
He
had
already
done
very
significant
contributions
to
the
ATF.
He
had
co-authored
our
C
30
31,
which
is
the
MPLS
architecture
RC
and
25:47.
That's
a
pious
or
bgp
MPLS
VPNs.
These
two
have
inspired
hundreds
of
others,
RFC's
hundreds
of
working
groups
and
that
we
still
have
significant
a
lot
of
work
in
the
routing
area.
P
Eric
was
always
or
has
been
always
a
quiet
person
like
me,
he's
an
introverted
were
not
much
into
small
talk
or
anything
like
that
when
we
first
met,
we
sat
next
to
each
other
or
from
each
other
looking
at
each
other.
Just
just
like
that,
for
for
about
30
seconds,
those
were
probably
the
longest
30
seconds
of
my
life.
P
He
then
went
on
and
explained
in
detail
what
he
was
working
on.
Details
is
one
of
the
very
important
characteristics
that
really
regulated
his
abilities.
He
always
did
very
in-depth
reviews
of
drafts.
He
always
started
with
I
have
a
few
comments
and
then
he
went
deep
into
what
was
wrong
or
what
needed
to
be
corrected
in
the
different
documents.
P
He
always
wrote
to
his
to
his
co-author,
saying:
oh
I,
have
a
few
I
made
a
few
editorial
changes
to
the
document,
but
yeah
probably
completed
rewritten
the
whole
thing
he
so
has
about
two
or
three
other
RCS
on
the
pipeline,
so
we're
looking
forward
to
keep
working
with
him
and
the
completion
of
that
work.
Unfortunately,
he
could
make
it
to
this
ITF,
but
I
want
to
your
help
in
in
thanking
him
for
his
work
and
in
wishing
him
good
luck
in
his
retirement.
Thank
you.
B
She
has
continued
to
remain
dedicated
to
this
task
and
donating
her
time
and
helping
us
out
to
create
a
program
of
activities
that
help
new
people,
understand
ITF
technologies
and
processes
and
everything
else
that
they
need
to
be
successful
in
the
ITF.
So
she's
I,
don't
think,
will
necessarily
never
see
you
again
at
an
IETF
meeting.
I
think
she'll
be
back
to
the
ITF,
but
stepping
down
from
from
her
role
in
the
eating
team.
So
please
join
me
in
thanking
Miriam
and
we
have
a
small
gift
for
you
as
well.
Q
I
joined
the
edge'
team
14
years
ago.
I
guess
you
did
the
math
right.
It
was
when
Brian
Carpenter
was
the
ITF
chair
for
those
of
you
who
remember
that
it's
a
long
time
ago
and
primarily
to
start
the
ietf
journal
at
the
time,
because
I
felt
it
was
better
to
do
it
within
the
ITF
as
an
ITF
activity.
Now
the
ITF
journal
won't
be
no
more
and
so
I
decided
to
step
down
from
the
edge'
team,
but
now
I'm,
just
kidding
I
just
fell
that,
as
coincidence,
I
just
feel
like
I.
Q
B
I've
known
for
a
while
this
moment
was
coming
and
I've
been
dreading
it,
as
many
people
know,
Jim
Martin
has
been
building.
Networks
for
the
ITF
for
23
years
will
be
stepping
down.
As
of
this
meeting
from
his
his
position
as
the
lead
of
our
NOC
Jim
is
the
closest
thing
that
this
community
has
to
a
real
magician,
as
I
said,
building
networks
for
23
years
here,
and,
if
you
think
about
this
community
and
the
kinds
of
demands
that
we
put
on
the
network,
our
propensity
to
be
able
to
complain
about
things
that
don't
work.
B
The
incredible
quality
of
this
network
and
the
incredibly
low
volume
of
complaints
by
comparison.
Much
of
that
is,
can
be
attributed
to
Jim's
leadership
of
the
NOC.
But
not
only
that.
Jim
is
also
essentially
a
magician,
because
he's
capable
of
going
to
hotels
like
this
one
and
convincing
them
to
do
things
that
they
definitely
should
not
agree
to
and
in
some
cases
are
not
even
in
their
own
interest.
B
Jim
has
also
done
other
magic
tricks
like
building
a
network,
even
when
all
of
the
equipment
was
lost,
but
I
think
perhaps
most
importantly
for
this
community.
He
has
inspired
a
team
of
volunteers
to
dedicate
a
tremendous
amount
of
time
and
energy
and
resources
to
the
NOC,
and
that
includes
entire
extra
weeks
tacked
on
to
the
already
grueling
meeting
week.
B
Significant
investment,
while
they're
there
on
the
ground
extra
trips
to
conduct
a
site
qualification
visits,
so
that
we
can
find
out
in
advance
whether
we
think
the
venue's
will
work
for
us
or
not
and
really
through
his
his
collaborative
and
kind
spirit,
inspired
others
in
our
community
to
donate
and
to
serve
and
the
interests
of
making
the
IETF
better
and
the
internet
better
and
and
that's
a
real
magic
trick.
So
please
join
me
in
saying
thank
you
to
Jim
Martin.
R
Thank
You
Alyssa.
The
truth
is
you
get
my
name
upfront,
but
the
truth
is
it's
all
kinds
of
different
people
behind
the
scenes.
I
need
to
thank
all
of
the
equipment,
sponsors
and
link
sponsors
that
have
made
this
possible
Cisco
and
juniper
in
particular.
Juniper
just
recently
gave
us
a
bunch
of
new
routers
I
want
to
thank
them.
I
need
to
thank
all
the
chairs
when
I
started.
This
fred
was
the
chair
and
every
single
chair.
R
All
the
way
along
has
been
helping
us
make
sure
this
really
happens
because
they
actually
understand
the
impact
it
has
on
the
community.
So
I
really
appreciate
all
that
help,
and
certainly
we
we
have
all
the
folks
in
AMS
in
particular,
I've
gotta
say
how
much
I
appreciate
Laura
Nugent,
Stephanie,
McCammon
and
Marsha
gosh.
We
miss
you
Marsha
and
finally,
the
team.
R
My
team
is
a
really
amazing
set
of
people
they
come
and
they
dedicate
weeks
of
their
lives
they're
here
a
week
before
everybody
else
is,
and
it's
a
combination,
these
days
of
of
contractors
and
volunteers,
but
it's
all
through
their
consistent
effort
and
one
working
as
one
team
to
make
sure
that
what
is
delivered
here,
both
in
the
guests
of
both
in
the
meeting
space,
as
well
as
up
in
the
guest
rooms,
because
well
that's
what
we
all
keep
working
all
the
time
and
the
IETF
does.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
happens.
R
So
there's
an
amazing
amount
of
work
and
I
mean
even
this
time
we
ended
up
having
to
take
over
all
of
the
wireless
in
the
guest
rooms,
not
just
take
it
over
like
we
usually
do,
but
we
had
to
reconfigure
the
whole
thing
so
I'm,
just
so
proud
of
my
team,
and
you
know
I'm
actually
also
want
to
thank
all
of
you.
I've
been
here
for
25
years,
I
have
seen
what
we've
done
as
a
community
to
impact
the
world
and,
frankly,
I
can't
wait
to
see
you
guys
do
in
the
next
25.
B
Ben
has
a
real
special
place,
at
least
from
my
perspective
as
one
of
the
other
founders
of
the
art
area.
There's
not
very
many
area
directors
who
can
claim
to
have
founded
an
area
so
when
we
merged
real
time
applications
and
infrastructure
and
applications
about
four
years
ago,
then
was
a
big
part
of
that
transition,
which
I
think
has
been,
at
least
in
my
personally
completely
biased
view.
A
real
success
in
the
ietf
Ben
has
also
been
a
true
calming
force
on
the
IHG
I.
B
Think,
as
everyone
knows,
the
is
G
is
a
perfectly
harmonious
body
on
which
there's
never
any
discord,
and
nevertheless,
Ben's
presence
has
been
particularly
useful
and
critical
in
times
when
some
some
others
of
us
were
not
not
quite
getting
along
as
well
as
we
could
have.
Maybe
it's
his
Southern
roots,
I'm,
not
sure,
but
he's
always
been
been
able
to
kind
of
bring
us
back
together
and
show
us
what's
important,
he's
always
been
also
willing
to
take
the
lead
on
some
fairly
difficult
tasks.
B
Recently,
this
included
handling
an
appeal
response
handling
other
kinds
of
community
discussions
about
very
controversial
topics
like
what
does
the
updates
tag
mean
and
I'm
really
really
appreciative
for
all
of
that
effort.
So
then,
if
you
could
come
on
up,
we
have
a
small
gift
of
appreciation
for
you
he's
here
here.
B
B
Next,
we
have
Spencer
Dawkins,
our
outgoing
transport
area
director,
so
Spencer's
been
serving
on
the
IHG
for
six
years,
he's
the
longest
serving
current
member
of
the
IHG,
which
means
that
as
he
as
he
departs
us,
we
are
losing
some
of
our
deepest
historical
context
on
the
is
G
which
is
actually
pretty
critical,
because
nobody
on
the
I
issue
you
can
ever
remember
like.
Oh,
we
talked
about
this
exact
thing
same
thing
last
year,
let
alone
six
years
ago,
but
Spencer
always
has
that
memory.
B
I
think
the
other
really
critical
thing
about
Spencer,
especially
at
a
time
when
we're
having
lots
of
discussions
in
the
IETF
about
how
do
we
work
together?
How
do
we
conduct
ourselves?
Spencer's
really
always
been
a
model
of
I,
would
say:
humility
and
kindness,
not
just
on
the
IHG,
but
towards
every
person
that
he
interacts
with
is
as
far
as
I've
seen,
and
so
that's
that's
really
something
to
look
up
to.
We
also
have
Spencer
to
thank
for
one
of
the
working
groups,
which
is
most
difficult
to
schedule
on
the
entire
ITF
agenda.
B
The
quick
working
group,
which
has
a
conflict
with
every
other
working
group
in
security
and
transport
and
applications,
and
possibly
several
others
like
who
knows
what
else
as
soon
as
we
do
bgp
over
quick
we're,
also
gonna
have
that
those
set
of
conflicts.
So
thank
you
for
that
gift,
Spencer,
I,
think
even
after
your
you're
no
longer
serving
you've,
you've
really
drilled
it
into
us
that
we
need
to
make
good
choices
and
do
the
right.
So
let's
hope
we
continue
to
do
that.
Please
join
me
in
thanking
Spencer
for
all
this
time
from
the
ISU.
S
B
B
Do
we
want
to
change
the
time
at
which
we
have
the
is
she
telecasts,
which
are
typically
earlier
in
the
morning
or
at
least
in
the
in
the
evening,
but
not
in
the
middle
of
the
night
for
the
rest
of
us
and
Terri
graciously
said
no,
it's
it's
fine,
I'll
I'll
keep
them
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
so
he's
been
doing
that
every
two
weeks
for
the
last
four
years.
Please
like
buy
him
a
beer.
B
If
you
see
him
and
although
Terri
didn't
have
the
the
highest
number
of
working
groups
on
his
plate,
he
did
have
some
of
the
hairiest
ones
nets.
So
we
also
have
him
to
thank
for
for
shepherding
some
difficult
working
group
discussions
in
the
internet
area.
So
please
join
me
in
thanking
Terri
and
come
on
up
for
your
gear.
B
B
Think,
if
you
kind
of
balance
those
two
things
together,
what
you
can
make
a
determination
about
is
that
ekor
probably
had
more
discusses
per
hour
put
in
to
the
IHG
than
any
other
ad
that
that
has
served
in
recent
memory.
So
anyone
who's
actually
published
a
document
in
the
last
two
years.
Can
you
know
give
a
moment
of
thanks
that
he'll
be
stepping
down
from
the
ISU.
B
T
B
I
I
In
fact,
one
of
the
rules
for
being
an
ICF
trustee
up
until
recently
was
you're
on
the
IOC,
and
so
it
is,
you
know,
sort
of
the
be
very
quiet
very
well,
not
well
understood
part
of
the
the
whole
administrative
and
co-op
that
makes
this
place
run.
That
is
the
trust
these
trustees
here
are
people
have
put
a
lot
of
work
in
reviewing
talking
about
trademark
management,
asset
management,
I
Anna,
it's
not
to
everybody,
especially
if
you're
a
hardcore
engineer
with
the
sexiest
stuff,
but
it's
really
important.
I
He
got
selected
by
the
Dom
calm
and
they
got
the
job
over
at
I
sock
as
CEO
arm
president
and
he
so
he
had
to
resign
from
the
the
IOC
I
think
it
we
appointed
because,
of
course,
the
CEO
and
president
of
I
sock
was
on
the
IOC
and
once
he
gave
me
cameras
rusty,
so
he
just
couldn't
leave
I
got
Andrew,
you
might
be
back,
he
and
I'm
not
sure
we
may
work
it
out
somehow
and
finally,
Porsche
who's
done
a
great
job.
Thank
you
Porsche.
So
thank
you
all
to
the
all.
U
So
I
think
all
of
the
outgoing
IEP
members
are
friends.
So
if
you
could
all
come
up
at
once,
that
probably
be
great
will
will
will
do
that
and
then
the
IAB
itself
will
will
join
you
in
a
minute.
But
if
you're,
an
outgoing
IB
member,
why
don't
you
come
up
now
and
in
a
moment
the
rest
of
you
I'ii
be
can
can
join
us
for
those
of
you
who
are
looking
forward
to
the
IB
open
mic
I
remind
you
that
we
send
our
report
an
email
before
this.
U
S
U
And
I'll
do
the
thanks
in
alphabetical
order,
because
there's
no
really
good
way
of
doing
it
and
and
first
is
Allison
and
Allison.
Many
people
don't
actually
realize
that
the
RTF
chair,
in
addition
to
doing
all
of
the
work
of
the
IRT
F,
is
also
a
non-voting
member
of
the
IAB,
and
that
vote
isn't
really
the
important
part
of
the
IEP.
We
try
not
to
vote
very
much.
U
What
we
try
and
do
is
come
to
consensus
around
different
topics
and
the
IRT
f
chair
and
in
particular
Allison
has
been
a
wonderful
influence
on
us,
as
we've
considered
some
of
the
matters
before
us.
It's
a
hard
job
and
it's
a
job
which
comes
with
other
jobs,
and
we
really
want
to
thank
Allison
for
her
time,
not
just
as
IRT
F
chair,
but
as
a
member
of
the
IAD.
U
Don't
don't
show
people
what's
in
it
just
yet,
because
you're
all
going
to
get
them
out
at
once,
so
Montenegro
joined
the
IB
in
2017
and
in
addition
to
his
general
contribution,
he
served
on
the
plenary
planning
program,
the
stack
evolution
program,
the
e
name
workshop
and
a
shepherd's
of
some
of
our
critical
liaisons,
such
as
European
ICT
platforms
group.
Thank
you
very
much.
U
Roberts
joined
in
2015
and,
in
addition
to
his
contributions
to
the
general
work
of
the
idea,
he
was
the
IAB
publications
stream
manager.
He
served
as
a
noncom
liaison
served
as
it
liaison
to
the
isg
worked
on
the
IV's
response
to
the
FCC
inquiries
on
stir
and
shaken,
served
on
the
stack
evolution
program
and,
above
and
beyond
that,
he
focused
himself
on
the
RFC
editor.
He
was
in
addition
to
being
the
stream
manager.
U
U
Suzanne
hates
going
last,
but
that's
just
the
look
of
the
drum
she
joined
in
2015
as
well.
In
addition
to
her
contributions
to
the
general
work
of
the
ID,
she
served
on
the
protect
program,
the
plenary
planning
program,
the
concluded
internationalization
and
the
identifiers
programs
anis
and
isg
liaison,
and
she
was
Shepard
for
any
number
of
ICANN
related
processes.
Basically,
if
you
want
to
think
about
I,
can
she
did
the
work
on
that
she
was
a
joint
lead
of
the
ANA
program.
She
was
the
Shepherd
for
the
ICANN
NomCom
search.
U
U
So
if
you
would
get
out
the
gifts
now
to
show
people,
the
baguettes
are
basically
a
very
small
token
of
the
fact
that
we
will
always
treat
you
as
reserved
IAB
members,
helping
to
make
the
internet
better
more
resilient
and
more
available
to
the
world,
even
as
the
gifts
will
show
if
we
need
to
reboot
it
from
scratch,
because
these
are
copies
of
a
very
wonderful
book,
the
Victorian
internet
and
a
set
of
telegraph
keys.
Just
in
case.
We
need
to
go
all
the
way
back.
U
And
now,
if
I
could
ask
the
rest
of
the
IAB
to
join
us
for
the
open
microphone
session,
I
know
there
was
one
person
who
had
a
question
for
Heather.
Heather
joins
us
as
well
during
the
course
of
this.
So
if
that
person
I
think
you
have
priority
in
line,
if
you
want
to
get
back
in
line
we'll
try
and
have
you
go
first.
B
U
V
G
T
AD
I
wasn't
the
one
who
was
up
to
the
night
before,
but
I
do
have
a
question
for
Heather
I'm
on
set
I.
You
mentioned
this
a3
software
that
you
need.
That
seems
to
be
hard
to
get
a
hold
of,
and
it
surprised
me
at
first
that
we
would
use
such
a
thing.
I
did
some
quick
reading
because
I
hadn't
heard
of
it
before
it
sounds
to
me
like
this
is
necessary
to
support
the
SVG
import
is.
Can
you
clarify
that.
G
So
there,
the
short
answer
is
to
look
at
one
of
the
RFC
7,
9,
5
or
4,
or
something
like
that.
The
PDF
requirements
for
the
new
format.
What
I'm
looking
for
is
a
format
that
was
designed
for
archiving,
and
one
of
our
requirements
of
that
archiving
is
that
the
XML
must
be
included
in
the
document
so
that
it's
a
completely
self-contained
PDF
file.
That
inclusion
of
the
XML
takes
it
just
from
PDF
a
1
to
a
PDF,
a
3
right.
W
AF
A
Richard
burns
I'm
going
to
you
know,
continue
the
RFC
editor
love
here,
so
I've
been
checking
out
some
of
the
reports.
You
know
that
you
guys
produce
very
periodically
on
the
performance
of
the
RPC
noticing
that
you
guys
have
been
in
the
kind
of
lower
categories
of
SLA
performance
recently,
so
I
just
wondering
what
the
plan
is
for
remediation
there
and
coming
back
in
to
clean
lines
for
the
SaaS
very.
G
Good
question
so
in
2016,
or
so
we
recognized
that
there
was
going
to
be
a
problem
when
we
hit
the
format
transition,
because
we
were
going
to
be
doing
so
much
more
than
just
editing
documents.
We
were
going
to
be
writing
new
procedures.
We
were
going
to
be
doing
additional
training.
We
were
going
to
be
learning
a
whole
new,
XML
really,
and
so
we
had
requested
through
that.
G
We
had
told
the
IOC
at
the
time
that
this
was
going
to
take
up
to
three
point:
two
five
FTE
to
actually
stay
ahead
of
that
particular
curve
and
the
response
at
the
time
was
we
don't
have
money
to
give
you
three
point
two
five
FTE,
but
you
you
know
we
can
talk
about
one
okay,
we
held
off
bringing
in
that
one
until
we
closer
to
the
to
the
transition
that
one
person
has
been
added
and
has
been
very
helpful.
But
as
we
expected,
this
isn't
really
enough
to
put
us
ahead
of
the
curve.
G
Now
one
of
the
things
I
didn't
do
that
I,
probably
should
have,
was
so
that
was
2016
2017.
This
is
now
2019
should
I
have
gone
back
to
the
well
and
said:
hey,
you
know,
we
told
you
this.
This
is
what
you
said
you
could
do
then
has
anything
changed
that
that
I
did
not
do
so
we're
working
at
at
a
difficulty
right
now,
so.
G
A
AG
G
G
I
have
heard
that
actually
many
many
times
where
people
said
yeah.
We
knew
that
was
a
problem,
but
we
figured
you
would
just
fix
that
you'll
you'll
just
fix
the
references.
You'll
just
fix
this
particular
table.
We
know
it's
a
bad
table,
but
you'll
just
fix
it,
the
less
we
have
to
just
fix
the
formatting
and
you
know
fix
the
content
that
way
the
better
things
will
go.
AB
I
I
AA
I
B
B
Does
everybody
who
should
have
a
dot
have
a
dot
because
now
you're
on
the
hook,
you
looking
at
you
yeah,
okay,
okay,
Mike
lines
are
open.
Oh
Alexi
come
on.
Oh
no
I
guess
we
should
probably
introduce
ourselves
right.
Okay,
I've
already
introduced
myself
three
times
so
I
forgot
and
starting
at
the
end
with
Eric.
D
AD
S
AA
David
black,
so
Warren
asked
me
to
say
this.
It
was
a
good
idea.
Thank
morons,
a
bad
idea.
Blame
blame.
Blame
me.
I
thought
the
routing
architecture
session
this
afternoon
was
excellent,
very
useful,
and
it
was
clearly
a
really
good
idea
to
hold
it
during
the
week
as
opposed
to
in
the
usual
Sunday
tutorial
slot.
So
well
done.
Thank
you.
B
B
Okay,
so
just
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
responses
on
that:
it's
not
you're,
not
the
only
person
who
has
expressed
this
to
us
there's
a
few
reasons
why
we
could
don't
currently
provide
remote
participation
for
side
meetings.
One
is
that
we're
doing
an
experiment
on
side
meetings?
I
didn't
talk
about
it
in
the
plenary
deck
because
it's
been
going
on
for
some
time,
but
you
can
read
more
about
it
in
our
pre-meeting
report
and
part
of
the
thinking
with
why
we
are
not
supporting
remote
participation
in
the
side.
B
Meetings
was
that
we
were
trying
to
clarify
some
of
the
distinctions
between
what
is
an
official
sanctioned
IETF
activity
on
the
ITF
agenda,
with
full
support
versus
what
is
or
as
activity
by
the
community
itself.
We
had
we've
had
some
issues
in
the
past
with
confusion
around
what's
a
real
buff,
and
if
people
just
organized
a
side
meeting
that
looks
enough
like
a
boss,
then
they
start
to
tell
people
that
they
had
a
boss
and-
and
that
was
creating
some
some
difficulty
for
us.
B
AF
Partes
I
previewed
a
number
of
documents
that
were
related
to
yang
modeling
and
I
found
that
often
people
put
values
that
are
in
INRI
histories
into
RFC
documents,
and
so
you
get
these
incomplete
or
obsoleted
entries
of
yang
values
in
RFC's
file.
They
should
really
be
pointers
to
the
the
proper
IANA
registries.
So
I
think
it
would
be
good
if
there's
some
some
steering
happening
across
the
working
groups
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
produce
those
those
documents
in
that
way.
So.
AK
Speaking
of
the
work
related
to
young
modeling,
and
especially
the
coordination
between
the
work
on
the
separate
technology
components
models.
Yes,
that's
an
area
that
is
lacking,
and
this
is
something
that
is
certainly
on
my
focus
and
we
probably
will
see
something
more
tangible
happening
across
the
coordination
of
the
model
development
soon
so
from
from
a
public
perspective.
This
is
understood,
and
there
are
items
to
try
to
address
that.
This
probably
will
not
be
a
very
quick
and
simple
fix,
but
at
least
there's
one
one
in
that
direction.
B
Z
Alysa
Eliot
here
we
had
a
really
good
side
meeting
on
IOT
onboarding
today
and
I
want
to
thank
Taurus
and
Kent
and
a
few
others
for
really
helping
us
to
try
and
at
least
document
what
we're
doing
what
what
is
available
in
terms
of
capabilities
for
IOT
onboarding,
particularly
for
wireless
and
I,
and
the
arm
side.
Meeting
mechanism
has
been
particularly
useful
for
me
for
number
of
ways.
One
comment
that
I
did
want
to
pass
to.
The
is
gene
I
suspect.
Other
community
members
had
this
problem
too,
which
is?
AC
AC
Elisa
I'd
like
to
thank
you
for
whatever
you've
done
behind
the
scenes
to
improve
the
demeanor
of
meetings
and
the
IETF
work
that
has
been
done
this
week
compared
to
the
past
two
or
three
or
four
meetings.
The
working
group
meetings
have
been
much
more
amenable
and
a
lot
more
friendly
and
an
open,
so
whatever
you
have,
or
whatever
the
isg
has
done
behind
the
scenes.
AC
I
would
really
like
to
thank
you
because,
as
I
commented
in
Bangkok
some
other
meetings
over
the
past
couple,
you
know
four
or
five
sessions
have
been
pretty
vile,
but
this
week
so
far
has
been
really
great
and
even
though
there's
been
some,
you
know
level
of
disagreement
as
there
always
will
be
I
think
everybody
has
been
very
open
and
more
open-minded,
so
whatever
you're
doing
please
continue,
but
I
think
you
for
that.
I
do
have
a
question.
AC
B
So,
just
on
the
on
the
first
bit,
you
know,
I
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
things
that
that
we've
done
in
the
IC
since
103,
but
I
would
say
that
part
of
raising
awareness
is
just
creating
a
conversation
in
the
community
about
some
of
these
issues.
So
I
would
turn
that
back
on
you
and
others
who
raised
the
issue
to
us
at
the
last
meeting
and
have
been
continuing
to
engage
on
the
topic
of
of
conduct
and
behavior
and
how
we
work
together,
because
I
think
that's
actually
probably
had
the
most
influence.
Thus
far.
B
Y
Didn't
mean
to
interrupt
you
though
I'm
Wes
herd
occur.
The
IETF
guides
lead
one
of
two
and
I
have
to
say
that
the
number
of
positive
compliments
I've
gotten
from
newcomers
that
come
to
this
organization
and
get
help
either
through
the
guides
program
or
just
people.
You
know
walking
them
through
the
process.
S
If
I
could
yeah,
if
I
could
just
respond
to
that
a
little
bit,
so
it
seems
like
to
me
that
there's
two
things
that
are
helpful.
One
is
that
when
people
do
come
here
that
we
don't
scare
them
away
and
if
the
numbers
for
first-time
attendees
are
kind
of
amazing,
you
know
they're,
you
know
like
will
see
150
250
people,
people
who
are
first-time
attendees
in
a
meeting,
but
we're
not
growing
by
a
hundred
people.
You
know
are
a
hundred
people
meeting.
S
You
know
so,
like
people
come,
you
know
so
for
people
who
I'm
not
talking
like
now,
I'm
talking
like
over
the
past
40
years,
that
you
know,
we've
always
had
first
opportunities
and
frankly,
a
lot
of
them
kind
of
bounced
off
and
I.
Think
that
we
have
made
an
awful
lot
of
changes
to
make
it
easier
for
people
to
come
in
here
and
at
least
get
their
feet
on
the
ground
and
understand.
S
You
know
where
there
is
where
there
is
the
this
meeting
experiment
that
turned
into
another
experiment
or
whether
it
was
our
RFC.
It
was
an
experiment
themselves
like
it's
about
to
not
be
an
experiment,
but
just
anything
that
we
can
do
to
help
people
find
each
other
and
have
conversations
with
each
other
I'm
I'm
holding
my
first
brainstorming
session
that
I
announced
of
how
to
RFC
tomorrow-
and
you
know
it's
like
I've,
just
been
too
busy
as
an
area
treasurer,
but
hey
I
used
to
be
an
area
director
right.
S
S
I
think
that
you
know
that
that's
really
been
important
too
and
the
you
know
the
two
things
I'd
say
about
that
or
you
know
that's
a
lot
of
that
stuff
is
pretty
new
and
a
lot
of
that
was
done,
and
you
know
interaction
with
the
community.
It
wasn't
like
the
IHG,
went
off
into
a
cave
and
came
back
out
with
this
brilliant
plan.
So
I
think
you
know
you
all
deserve
a
puppy
hand
on
that
as
well.
Thank
you
all
for
the
work
that
you
do.
S
AI
So
a
couple
of
points
from
my
point
of
view
is
that
when
we
will
talk
about
the
tone
of
the
meetings,
there's
a
fantastic
line
that
pretty
much
says
the
culture
you
have
is
based
on
the
behaviors
you
condone
and
that
sits
on
everyone's
shoulders.
It
sits
on
our
shoulders
and
it
sits
on
your
shoulders.
So
think
deeply
about
that
in
the
meetings
in
the
working
group
meetings
in
the
efforts
that
you
undertake
within
the
IETF.
AI
What
my
second
point
is
that,
and
this
kind
of
harks
back
to
one
of
one
of
something
my
professor
told
me
as
a
as
a
post
grad-
was
that
you're
no
longer
the
customer
you're
the
product
and
as
the
product
you're
the
key
to
the
network,
and
it's
not
just
that
the
network
of
on
building
routers
and
things
like
that.
It's
a
network
of
people,
so
each
and
every
one
of
you
are
the
part
of
the
network.
AI
So
go
back
to
your
organization
and
if
you
want
to
build
the
IETF,
go
back
to
your
organized,
that
junior
engineer
picked
that
junior
developer
and
dragged
them
along
to
the
ietf
facilitate
them
coming
here.
Facilitate
them
learning
facilitate
them,
contributing
and
bringing
them
into
this
culture
and
adjusting
that
the
growth
of
the
IETF.
B
Okay,
just
to
build
a
little
bit
more
on
that
on
the
question
about
growth,
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
that,
in
terms
of
sheer
numbers
of
people
we're
not
trying
to
maximize
that
value
right,
we
even
actually
have
a
consensus.
Rfc
TV,
which
says
that
maximizing
attendance
at
the
meetings
is
not
a
goal
and
that's
important
because
it
keeps
us
focused
on
what
the
goal
actually
is,
which
is
you
know,
facilitating
interoperability
and
developing
the
technologies
that
are
going
to
make
the
internet
work
better.
B
B
We've
had
a
number
of
us
and
other
people
in
the
community
that
we've
engaged
with
to
reach
out
to
some
of
the
operators
groups,
the
some
of
the
rars
I
think
we've
had
a
particularly
I
RTF
side
with
a
nrw
and
a
&
RP
bringing
in
whole
new
batches
of
folks
from
the
academic
research
communities.
Just
been
a
great
effort
and
other
kind
of
smaller
engagements,
so
some
people
know
that
the
net
dev
conference
was
here.
B
Last
week
we
had
some
cross-pollination
with
the
Linux
kernel
developers
there,
a
number
of
us
were
there
in
attendance
and
gave
talks
and
so
on.
So
obviously
the
people
up
here
we're
you
know
we're
all
volunteers
too.
We
don't
have
unlimited
budgets
for
outreach,
nor
do
we
have
on
them
at
a
time,
but
we've
been
trying
to
do
some
targeted
efforts
to
talk
to
particular
communities
where
we
think
that
the
engagement
could
be
better,
that
we
could
derive
more
value
from
them
and
they
from
us.
AH
General
I
just
saw
my
personal
suggestion,
so
I
kind
will
open
a
new
gTLD
application
in
soon
I'm.
What
I'm
wondering
is
the
ITF
or
RC
can
be
applied
as
a
new
gTLD.
For
example,
I
have
a
table
of
C
number.
One
I
have
maybe
a
prior
I'll
say
two
out
ITF
o,
as
as
my
name,
everyone
can
check
my
Tommy
name
of
C
member
itea
for
check
my
might
FC
FC
contender,
also
some
camera,
for
example
Cisco
or
for
my
committee,
cynical
or
some
microsoft
idea
who
they
can
check
out
any
way.
AH
I
have
related
work
off
by
the
company,
so
also
I.
Think
there's
two
benefits
for
the
panel
faces.
They
we
can
easily
identify
the
worker.
Also
such
FC
is
more
easily.
So
second
icing
is:
we
can
increase
the
revenue
over
idea
because,
when
I
first
joined
idea
for
our
honor
to
say
2000-2005
letter,
so
a
registration
fee
is
five
round
500
the
US
dollar.
Now
a
protester
already
bubble
around
1000
a
US
dollar
icing
her.
AH
U
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
suggestion.
I
want
to
point
out
to
two
things
very
quickly.
One
is
that
the
Internet
Society,
which
of
course
has
been
a
is
our
corporate
home
and
a
longtime
donor
to
the.
If
activity
also
has
another
body
in
it,
PIR
the
Public
Interest
registry
I
think
it
might
be
a
little
bit
confusing
for
the
IDF
to
go
into
the
business
of
one
of
the
other
subsidiaries
of
of
I
sought
and
furthered
the
actual
string
ITF.
As
a
reserve
string.
U
W
This
julia
scrubber
check.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
you
for
what
you
are
saying
earlier.
I'm
actually
part
of
the
underpaid
working
class
minority
were
mentioning
academia
and
so
in
fairly
active
over
the
line.
I
think
I've
been
fairly
active
over
the
last
years
at
IETF.
I
have
my
name
on
six
or
seven
drafts,
of
which
four
are
in
the
last
stages
of
publication.
W
That's
been
four
years
a
very
hard
work
which
I'm
very
glad
for
and
when
I
realized
that
few
years
ago,
that
I
was
going
to
get
involved
and
that
I
was
going
to
have
to
come
fairly
regularly
at
ITF
I
actually
had
to
ask
for
extra
funding.
So
that's
an
additional
stepping
stone
if
you
want
to
get
involved
to
the
ATF
by
academic
criteria,
the
ATF
meetings
are
very
expensive,
and
so,
if
you
are
thinking
about
outreach,
perhaps
you
might
consider
something
I.
B
AL
So
I
don't
have
a
good
answer,
I'm
sure
it's
not
a
new
problem,
but
does
not
seem
we
are
converging
and
the
problem
is
is
then
it
was
an
issue
of
represented
representation
who
we
mean
when
we
say
the
community
who
are
we
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
think
it's
actually
your
correct
representation
of
what
the
real
constituencies
of
those
objects
connected
those
people
organization,
part
of
the
network-
many
are
not
here.
So,
are
we
missing
some
feedback
group
from
from
some
people?
Thank.
B
You
thank
you
certainly
appreciate
your
comments.
I
think
it
isn't
I
totally
agree
with
you
they're
not
not.
Everybody
is
here,
and
that
is
actually
part
in
part
by
design
right.
So
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
we
do,
that
can
be
done
entirely
remotely
and
we
really
encourage
that
in
the
IETF,
and
that
applies
equally
to
people
who
don't
want
to
show
up
in
person
and
and
also
you
know,
fortunately
or
unfortunately,
people
who
can't
afford
to
come
so
I
think
it's.
It's
really
important
to
remember.
To
reinforce
that.
You
know.
AM
I'm
Watson
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
the
hard
work
you
do
and
I
was
like
to
say
that
remote
participation
can
get
valuable
things
done.
This
is
the
first
time
I've
been
to
an
IETF
meeting.
I
came
here.
Many
people
are
like.
Oh,
you
exist.
They
know
me
for
me.
You
know
they
know
me
from
countries
in
the
drafts.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
making
it
possible
to
do
that.
It's
really
been
a
tremendous.
It
really
is
a
big
achievement.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
That
is
exactly
the.