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From YouTube: IETF 104 Plenary
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On 27 March 2019 (16:10-18:40 UTC) the IETF 104 plenary session included the usual administrative topics.
A
B
B
As
people
probably
know
a
typical
IETF
meeting,
we
have
lots
of
great
tutorials.
We
actually
had
a
longer
tutorial
session
just
today
on
modern
router
architecture,
and
earlier
this
week
on
Sunday,
there
was
a
really
a
really
special
tutorial
where
we
went
kind
of
above
and
beyond
the
typical
content.
I,
don't
know
how
many
of
you
got
to
go,
but
there
was
a
tutorial
about
how
to
create
an
internet.
So
in
case
you
don't
like
the
one
that
we
have
we're
trying
to
teach
people.
B
In
fact,
it
was
a
tutorial
about
how
to
create
an
internet
draft
with
tools
that
support
our
new
RFC
format,
so
I
actually
encourage
you
to
go.
Take
a
look
at
the
at
the
materials
there.
If
you're
going
to
be
submitting
drafts
in
the
new
RFC
format
and
if
you're
less
interested
in
building
a
new
internet
and
more
interested
in
building
something
else,
you
may
have
checked
out
the
adjacent
conference
about
the
inter
snack.
B
B
A
preview
of
IETF
105
will
have
a
recognition
portion
for
a
number
of
people
who
will
be
transitioning
out
of
various
roles
in
the
IETF
and
then
we're
gonna.
Have
our
typical
open
microphone
sessions
you'll
see
because
we
no
longer
have
the
IAO
C.
We
will
have
an
open
microphone
session
with
the
IETF
LLC
board
for
the
first
time
and
there's
no
technical
plenary
topic
today.
So
I'm
sure
this
will
be
very
short
and
sweet.
So.
B
D
C
Time
I
think
I
spoke
a
little
bit
about
Czech
language.
I
talked
to
some
some
chick
words
in
ITF,
93,
I
I've
talked
about
you
know
the
chick
personality,
how
objects
behave,
and
you
know
this
time.
I-
would
like
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
area.
I
think
you
all
know
it,
because
it's
your
first
time
here,
but
still,
if
maybe
I,
can
share
the
few
words
from
from
a
viewpoint
of
a
local.
So
here's
the
muck
of
crack
and
I,
would
like
to
introduce
you
five
city
districts.
C
They
are
very
close.
You
can
walk
there,
although
you
know
you
have
the
train
ticket
for
the
whole
week,
so
we
can
travel
to
to
all
the
various
parts
of
Prague,
but
those
areas
those
districts
are
workable.
We
are
in
a
pretty
like
modern
park
called
Karine.
To
be
honest,
is
not
very
interesting
part
of
crime.
It
used
to
be
an
industrial
area,
so
there
were
queues
to
be
many
more
houses.
Now
it's
turning
to
a
residential
area.
C
C
Fact
about
this
part,
it
was
really
badly
damaged
by
a
great
flood.
In
2002
many
many
houses
collapsed,
which,
surprisingly,
let's
do
a
new
development
of
this
area.
So
many
new
houses
were
built,
many
offices
or
residential
houses
were
built
even
actually
this,
this
hotel
was
flooded
in
2002.
We
wouldn't
be
here
because
the
water
was
a
bit
higher
and
what.
C
Of
the
of
the
hotel
had
a
very
interesting
plan
when
the
water
level
was
rising,
they
they
flooded
the
basement
of
the
hotel
by
clear
water.
So
when
the
flood
came,
this
water
helped
the
building,
statics
and
also
the
dirty
water
couldn't
get
in.
So
this
is
hotel
was
really
pretty
quickly
after
the
flood,
while
the
other
building
as
I
said
some
of
them
collapse
or
or
couldn't
be
used
for
a
long
time.
C
C
It's
still
a
little
bit
younger
brother
of
City
Park
called
Old
Town,
which
is
more
than
thousand
years
old.
So
that's
why
it
was.
It
was
founded
by
one
of
the
greatest
kings
and
Charles.
The
force,
who
really
you
know,
was
pretty
important
for
the
city,
so
he
founded
this
city
power,
the
new
town
and
also
another
part
which
which
I
really
like
it's
called
the
Nahanni.
The
translation
is
Waimea,
so
it
was
not
supposed
to
be
a
residential
area
right.
C
It
is
now,
but
it
really
was
an
attempt
to
produce
wine
in
this
in
this
code
and
city,
so
it
was
not
really
successful
and
also
after
you
know,
the
rapid
growth
of
the
city
and
the
like.
150
years
ago,
the
municipality
decided
to
turn
it
to
residential
area.
So
that
was
the
end
of
attempt
trying
to
grow
grapes
in
in
Prague,
and
we
could
really
fully
concentrate
on
beer,
which
I
think
was
very,
very
good
idea
so
and
it's
still
working
now.
C
C
There
is
a
there's.
A
underground
station
with
the
same
name
is
USP
develop
and
for
some
strange
reasons
the
ex
body
is
the
furnace
living
here.
Ecologist,
gzp,
I,
don't
know
why
item
they,
somehow
don't
wanna,
say
this
beautiful
name,
interesting
about
this
City
Square
is
that
the
main
building
of
seasoning
is
like
102
meters
from
from
the
church.
So
that's
an
NRI
work
and
that's
that's
what
we
like
there
another
and
maybe
more
interesting
part
is
called
Shishkoff.
It
has
the
same
history
as
wine
art.
C
His
his
name
was
jischke,
of
course,
and
this
is
one
of
the
six
european
commanders
who
never
lost
a
single
battle,
and
this
is
not
caused
by
the
fact
that
he
didn't
battle
at
all.
But
this
was
caught
by
the
fact
that
he
was
really
good
by
the
way
he
the
time
he
was
he
was
leading.
It
was
in
the
in
the
beginning
of
15th
century.
C
This
part
of
this
district,
because
it's
quite
kind
of
rebellion,
part
of
probably
the
most
bohemian
prac
of
a
part
of
crack.
So
the
source
of
wisdom
called
wikipedia
says
that
this
district
has
highest
concentration
of
pups
per
capita
in
all
european
districts.
So
I'm
sure
it's
true
or
it's
not
very
far
from
compared
to
the
narrative
of
the
pups,
are
fancy,
and
you
can
still
see
some
tourists
there
in
juice
coffee.
You
will
not
see
any.
C
C
So
this
kind
of
independent
part
of
pride
and
many
like
the
free
air
meetings
happenings
festivals,
are,
you
know,
happening
there,
so
some
very
area
that
I
would
recommend
for
somebody
who
wants
to
see
the
local
culture,
the
that
is
the
fourth
district
and
the
fifth
district
is
also
a
very
interesting,
mainly
mainly
by
the
fact
that
I
really
couldn't
find
anything
interesting
about
it
at
all.
That's
amazing
part
of
pride.
It's
really
tough
I
can
illustrate
it
by
a
sign
that
was
found
on
one
of
the
one
of
the
buildings.
D
C
Because
I
wanted
to
check
if
you
did
your
homework,
do
you
remember
my
presentation?
Two
years
ago,
I
taught
you
this
simple
sentence
and
I
told
you,
please
repeat
it:
we
don't
have
a
contest
and
who
will
be
able
to
say
it.
You
know
live
in
something.
So
again,
it's
very
simple
sentence:
touch
/
script,
script
by
the
way,
somebody
after
my
presentation
tweeted
that
he
wasn't
sure
whether
the
English
sentence
below
is
a
translation
all
the
way
how
to
pronounce
it.
So
I
just
wanted
to
make
clear
that
this
is
a
translation.
C
Actually,
it's
it's
not
so
tough,
so
I
am
sure
all
you
did
have
your
homework
right.
So
who
wants
to
be
first
I
know
if
something
is
too
easy,
nobody
wants
to
be
first
right,
it's
like
going
to
my
can
sake
grass,
green
right,
so,
okay,
so
but
I
I
do
believe
you
you
did
your
best
so,
and
so
the
next
level
would
be
name
of
this
of
this
city
district.
C
It
has
the
magical
letter,
sir,
which
you
know
it's
a
nightmare
for
all
the
foreigners
in
this
country,
and
it's
part
of
my
name
actually,
and
it
is
also
very
interesting
meaning
and
gain
the
English
words
in
in
parenthesis
below
it's.
Not
it's
translation,
not
the
way
how
to
say
it.
Okay,
so
this
city
part
is
called
cut-throats
which,
which
is
promising.
You
know
you
would
believe
there
must
be
something
interesting,
but
but
it's
not
so
the
simple
check
rod
is
hablas
as
a
okay,
and
we
will
be
able
to
say
me
to
say
this.
C
B
E
B
Alright,
so
I
have
a
few
items
to
report
on.
There's
lots
more
information
in
the
written
report
that
the
isg
and
myself
sent
out
to
the
IETF
mailing
list
before
the
meeting
today
we're
going
to
look
a
little
bit
at
some
participant
statistics
talk
a
little
bit
about
some
of
the
meeting
experiments
that
we've
been
running,
follow
up
from
the
open
microphone
session
at
the
last
plenary.
A
brief
update
on
the
Ombuds
team
and
I'll
spend
a
moment
on
our
standards
of
professional
behavior
here
in
the
ITF.
B
So
these
are
our
participants
statistics
for
this
meeting.
We
have
about
1200
people
who
are
here
on-site,
234,
first-time
attendees,
which
is
a
which
is
a
nice
high
number
for
an
ITF
meeting,
fairly
similar
attendance
to
what
we
had
a
year
ago
in
London
and
63
different
countries
represented
here
at
this
meeting.
B
You
can
see
it
as
you
would
expect
the
meeting
attendance
kind
of
goes
up
and
down
depending
on
the
location
and
the
time
of
year,
and
the
first-time
attendees
fluctuates
somewhat
in
tandem
with
that,
although
a
bit
on
its
own
curve
and
then
the
last
line
is
a
little
bit
on
the
decline.
So
the
the
true
believers
in
the
ITF
who
have
been
around
the
longest
are
becoming
a
smaller
group
over
time.
B
We
had
a
record-breaking
ITF
hackathon
on
Saturday
and
Sunday
370
people
are
on
site,
working
on
44
different
projects,
every
different
kind
of
every
area
of
the
ITF
represented
and
lots
of
people
working
on
projects
adjacent
to
a
ETF
technologies.
We
also
had
the
hack
demo
happy
hour
on
Monday
night,
where
teams
got
to
present
some
of
the
what
they
had
worked
on
over
the
weekend
and
for
those
who
are
interested
in
joining
in
on
this
particular
kind
of
fun.
We
have
another
hackathon
scheduled
at
the
start
of
the
week
of
IETF
105
in
Montreal.
B
So
please
consider
that
when
you
make
your
travel
plans,
you
don't
need
to
be
previously
involved
in
a
project
in
order
to
get
started.
There's
lots
of
people
there
who
can
help.
You
find
a
team
find
something
to
work
on
over
the
weekend
and
hopefully
help
advance
the
implementation
and
deployment
of
IETF
standards.
B
If
we
look
at
the
trend
for
for
the
hackathon
attendance
is
growing
over
meeting
over
meeting
more
or
less
and
as
I
said
we
had,
we
had
a
big
jump
from
from
our
previous
record
in
Bangkok
to
now.
So
this
is
definitely
an
event.
That's
attracting
more
and
more
attention
and
participation
from
people
who
attend
the
IGF
meeting
and
also
others,
which
is
fantastic.
B
So
meeting
experiments
some
people
might
be
aware
that
we
are
running
an
experiment
at
this
meeting
with
unstructured
time
in
the
agenda.
This
is
actually
the
second
different
iteration
of
this
particular
experiment,
so
at
ATF
103
we
ran
an
experiment
where
we
had
some
unstructured
time.
On
the
Friday
of
the
meeting
week,
there
were
rooms
available
that
people
could
book
on
a
first-come,
first-served
basis,
but
there
were
not
any
working
group
sessions
on
the
Friday.
B
We
conducted
a
meeting
survey
after
IETF
103,
just
like
we
do
after
every
meeting
and
the
survey
feedback
indicated
that
almost
nobody
likes
having
unstructured
time
on
Friday,
but
people
were
quite
interested
in
having
unstructured
time
in
the
middle
of
the
week
and
as
a
result
for
this
meeting,
we
scheduled
some
unser
in
the
middle
of
the
week.
So
earlier
today
we
had
a
block
that
was
free.
There
were
side,
meeting
rooms
again
available
to
book
and
just
as
a
note,
because
there's
I
think
been
some
confusion
about
this.
B
The
way
that
we've
been
able
to
accommodate
this
and
still
accommodate
all
of
the
working
groups
that
put
in
a
request
for
time
is
by
maintaining
enough
slots
to
accommodate
all
of
those
groups,
but
shortening
some
of
the
slots.
So
we
have
the
same
number
of
slots
available
more
or
less
that
we've
that
we've
had
for
many
years,
but
we've
we've
offered
different
size
slots
in
order
to
be
able
to
accommodate
that.
So
we've
received
lots
of
feedback
about
this
experiment
already
on
the
IETF
list
and
the
working
group
chairs
list.
B
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that,
and
we're
definitely
welcome
to
to
hear
more
from
you.
We're
really
gonna
be
relying
on
the
MTG
survey
to
provide
us
with
a
broad-based
view,
not
just
an
opinion
here
and
there
on
a
mailing
list,
but
to
try
to
get
a
sense
of
of
the
whole
community
or
the
whole
community.
That's
willing
to
fill
out
a
survey
about
how
they're
how
they
like
what
we're
doing
with
the
schedule.
B
What
we're
trying
with
the
schedule
we've
crafted
a
bunch
of
very
specific
questions
on
this
topic
that
are
in
the
MTG
survey.
That
will
be
going
out
toward
the
end
of
the
week
or
possibly
over
the
weekend.
So
if
this
is
a
topic
that
you
care
to
voice
an
opinion
on,
please
fill
out
the
MTG
survey
when
it
goes
out.
You
can
also,
of
course,
always
send
feedback
to
the
isg
at
our
at
our
email
address
and
before
we
run
the
experiment
at
night,
EF
103.
B
We
announced
it
many
months
in
advance
because
it
was
on
the
Friday.
We
knew
that
it
would
affect
people's
travel
plans,
so
we
announced
it
in
May
and
then
ran
the
experiment
in
November.
For
this,
this
iteration
of
the
experiment.
We
wanted
to
wait
and
see
how
many
working
group
requests
came
in
and
whether
we
thought
we
could
actually
make
it
work
without
creating
too
much
conflict
between
the
working
groups.
B
So
we
waited
to
be
real
specific
about
what
we
were
going
to
do
with
the
unstructured
time
until
the
working
group
requests
went
in
for
the
next
iteration.
We,
if
we,
if
we
carry
forward
this
experiment
at
all,
which
we
may
or
may
not,
we
plan
to
announced
it
further
in
advance.
We
thought
we
would
wait
in
case
we
in
case
it
just
seemed
like
it
would
create
too
much
conflict,
but
it
seems
like
waiting
created
more
of
a
problem
than
than
the
problem
it's
solved.
B
B
This
event
includes
lightning
talks
and
other
kind
of
brief
pitches
to
encourage
people
to
brainstorm
collaborate
to
announce
something
that
might
be
going
on
later
in
the
week.
So
this
took
place
on
Sunday
at
6
o'clock
and
there
were
15
different
presentations.
You
can
check
out
the
proceedings
online.
B
So
it
seems
to
the
ihd
that
people
like
this,
where
we
could
maybe
move
this
out
of
the
experimental
phase
and
declare
it
a
successful
experiment,
but
we're
also
always
looking
for
feedback
about
how
to
change
or
improve
it.
So
please
send
send
that
our
way
and
many
thanks
to
Aaron
Faulk
for
incubating
this
idea
and
for
making
it
a
success.
B
So
at
the
last
plenary
we
had
some
open
microphone
discussion
about
behavior
and
conduct
in
working
groups.
I
talked
about
this
at
some
length
and
as
a
result
of
that,
the
IHG
kicked
off
some
initial
discussion
with
the
working
group
chairs
in
by
email
in
December,
and
we've
continued
to
kind
of
go
back
and
forth.
B
We
also
have
a
new
member
of
our
Ombuds
team.
Melinda
Shore
started
in
January
as
as
part
of
this
team,
and
she
joins
Allison,
Menken
and
Pete
Resnick.
So
thank
you
to
Melinda
for
being
willing
to
serve
and
to
Allison
and
Pete
for
continuing
a
really
important
function
for
the
IETF.
If
you
ever
have
an
issue
with
harassment,
your
these
are
your
your
people
that
you
can
go
to
to
to
get
guidance
and
advice
and
to
speak
with
someone
in
confidence.
B
We
are
really
striving
to
create
and
maintain
an
environment
here
where
people
feel
included
and
where
everyone
feels
like
they
get
treated
with
dignity
and
respect.
We
have
a
number
of
different
policies
and
guidelines
that
go
into
more
detail
about
this,
so
I
encourage
you
to
to
check
them
out,
and
the
Ombuds
team
that
you
just
saw
on
the
screen
can
be
reached
at
their
email
address
and
there's
more
information
about
them
on
their
website.
B
As
I
said
at
the
top
there's
a
bunch
more
information
covered
in
our
online
report
and
in
the
reports
from
the
various
other
bodies.
So
if
you
want
more
details,
please
take
a
look
there
and
we're
always
writing
updates
about
various
things
on
the
blog,
including
a
preview
of
this
meeting.
That'll
be
highlights
from
this
meeting
posted
there
as
well,
and
that
I'd
like
to
invite
our
outgoing
incoming
iron
chef
chairs
to
come
on
up.
G
That's
a
good
way
retire.
Somebody
all
right
so
Colin
and
I
are
going
to
tell
you
about
the
IRT
F,
ATF,
104
and
first
of
all,
I
want
to
say
thanks
to
the
IRT
F,
it's
been
amazing.
Thank
you,
Prague,
I'm,
very
happy
to
have
it.
My
term
ending
here.
I
have
a
big
lump
in
my
from
that
and
I
wanted
to
just
reflect
a
little
bit
about
what
happened
in
these
two
years.
G
So
it's
actually
transitioning
to
not
proposed
now
a
new
quantum
internet
proposed
research
group
that
just
started
and
a
bunch
of
you
went
to
the
tutorial
and
I
hear
it
was
really
fun
and
then
enlivening
and
then
one
that's
starting
and
we'll
meet
this
week
later
in
the
week.
The
computation
in
the
network
proposed
research,
group
and
I
also
think
of
this
as
two
years
of
really
wonderful
community
growth
for
IRT
F,
but
also
for
the
I
family.
G
G
And
then
these
do
research
group
chairs,
so
that
I've
mentioned
I'll
show
you
a
list
of
people
I'll,
just
flash
it
by
the
workshop
in
in
the
a
in
the
applied
networking
research
workshop
workshop
in
eighteen
last
year
had
an
innovation
suggested
by
his
chairs
of
meeting
during
IETF
week
and
as
a
result,
there
were
well.
There
were
a
hundred
participants
at
that
they
were
either
new
to
the
IETF
or
were
very
entirely
or
or
had
been
only
very
rarely,
and
many
of
them
stayed
and
participated.
So
I
think
this
has
been
a
good
innovation.
G
We're
going
to
continue
this.
There
was
a
lot
of
of
growth
of
communities
because
of
IRT
F
groups
going
to
the
hackathons
and
I
just
want
to
call
it
especially
HR,
PC
and
think
to
thing
research
group
among
the
many
as
using
those
hackathons,
extremely
well
map
our
G,
which
is
the
measurement
research
group.
Not
only
had
tremendous
presenters
but
also
grew
a
great
big
repository
of
data
that
you
should
take
a
look
at
and
even
though
documents
are
often
the
story
for
the
ITF
for
the
IR
tips.
G
But
we
have
a
bunch
of
people
who
are
from
many
places
and
it's
been
a
really
interesting
time,
and
these
are
just
the
people
associated
with
the
events
in
my
two
years
and
now
I'm
going
to
welcome
Colin
as
the
incoming
IRT
F
chair
I,
said
on
this
slide
that
he
had
just
received
the
IRT
F
chair
dot.
But
there
actually
isn't
one
and
I
would
have
given
him
the
IR
s
G
dot,
but
he
already
had
one
so
instead
I
covered
that
my
aria
IR
s
G
dot
with
a
surveillance.
G
Massive
massive
massive,
pervasive
monitoring
is
a
an
attack
dot
that
I've
just
created
and
also
one
from
the
women
the
Women
in
Technology
dot.
That
says,
yes,
we
can,
from
now
over
to
Colin
Colin's
visit
the
ITF
for
quite
a
long
time
and
he's
done
lots
of
different
working
group,
chair
chips
and
contributions,
largely
in
transport.
It's
been
observed
that
we've
had
a
lot
of
transport
folks
become
IRT,
F,
chairs
and
I.
H
Thank
you
thank
thank
you.
Alison
I
am
I
have
to
say
honored
and
a
little
humbled
to
be
selected
and
very
much
look
forward
to
working
with
the
community,
although
I
think
they
may
treat
the
absence
of
a
dot
as
an
excuse
to
pretend
I
was
never
nominated
too
late.
All
right,
so
the
first
thing
I
would
like
to
do
is
so
very,
very
big.
Thank
you
to.
H
H
Allyson
I
think
has
has
worked
very
very
hard
to
increase
the
diversity
in
the
IRT
F.
We
have
a
much
more
diverse
set
of
people
in
the
research
group
chairs
in
the
IR
s
G,
and
a
much
much
much
more
diverse
set
of
research
groups
and
topics
which
I
think
is
very
very
valuable,
very
important
to
increase
the
diversity.
This
way,
she's
chatted
some
very
interesting,
very
exciting
new
research
groups,
I
think
in
particular
the
quantum
internet
group
which
I
think
you
charted
is
gonna.
H
Think
she's
also
done
a
very
good
job
with
the
applied
networking
research
prize,
and
we
had
some
talks
earlier
in
the
week
in
the
ITF
open
meeting,
and
there
were
very
excellent
research
prize
talks
there
and
also
growing
and
enhancing
the
visibility
of
the
applied
networking
research
workshop,
which
I
think
is
a
really
great
way
of
bringing
people
from
from
the
research
community
in
getting
them
to
talk
to
the
standards.
Community
I
think
it's
very
beneficial
for
the
long-term
health
of
both
organizations.
H
Okay,
so
just
have
to
forward-looking
things
that
I'd
like
to
mention
before
we
finish.
First,
the
applied
networking
research
workshop.
You
know
it's
happened.
It's
been
running
for
the
last
couple
of
years
last
year
in
Montreal
it
took
place
on
the
Monday
and
we
had
some
good
interactions.
There
will
be
having
again,
coincidentally
in
Montreal
since
we're
going
back
this
summer
again
in
the
Monday
of
the
ITF
week.
This
is
an
academic
research
workshop.
The
the
results
will
be
published
by
the
ACM.
H
H
I,
don't
see
him
he's
here
somewhere
this
week
and
it
is
a
long-term
ITF
participant
and
Philip
a
girl
from
from
the
University
of
Massachusetts,
in
addition
which
but
have
slightly
smaller
interests,
but
there
is
a
workshop
on
evaluation
performance
in
interoperability
of
quick,
which
will
relate
to
a
large
number
of
people
in
the
transport
area.
The
submission
deadline
on
the
15th
of
April,
which
allows
Eggert
in
the
oak
lot,
are
running
and
again,
if
you
have
research
work
or
an
interesting,
quick,
please
consider
submitting
to
that
workshop.
J
J
The
HTML
actually
has
a
proper
CSS
you'll
be
allowed
to
use
SVG
line
art
in
black
and
white
you'll
be
allowed
to
use
non
ASCII
characters.
All
of
this
information
is
documented
in
various
and
sundry
rfcs,
all
of
which
will
go
through
a
BIST
process.
Once
we've
actually
taken
what
we
thought
might
work
and
actually
check
to
see.
J
Did
it
actually
do
what
we
wanted
it
to
do,
all
of
which
is
going
to
be
happening
this
year,
so
project
status,
discussion
happen
happens
on
the
XML
to
RFC
devilÃs,
because
we're
really
talking
about
the
tools
that
have
been
in
play
under
development
over
the
last
couple
years.
I
wanted
to
do
a
quick
shout-out
to
Calais
oft,
where
they
are
our
partner
of
Adobe
and
they've,
donated
to
the
RFC
editor
of
the
software.
We
needed
to
create
PDF
a3.
J
There's
not
a
lot
of
libraries
out
there
that
will
create
you
a
PDF,
a
free
file.
As
of
Monday.
The
data
tracker
accepts
v3
XML.
If
you
get,
you
know
really
enthusiastic
about
this,
you
can
to
the
xml
to
RFC
website
to
the
experimental
page
and
say
you
know
what
I
have
a
v2
file
I
want
to,
could
you
make
it
v3
do
the
thing
and
it
will
automatically
create
a
v3
file
which
you
can
submit
and
say.
Well,
I
want
to
see
what
the
HTML
is.
J
J
Optimistically
I'm
told
that
that
will
happen.
You
know
cluster
238,
we
really
hopeful
will
come
come
out
in
May,
but
you
know
things
get
delayed,
sometimes
and
I'm.
Just
you
know
it's
coming
out
in
August
I
know
it's
coming
out
in
August,
so
I'm
just
waiting
for
it.
So
the
timing
is,
is
definitely
open
to
a
little
bit
of
question
right
now.
There
is
an
inordinate
amount
of
behind-the-scenes
work
going
on.
So,
if
you
look
at
the
RFC
editor
report,
for
example,
you'll
see
that
the
RC
production
Center
is
not
meeting
the
SLA.
J
This
is
something
we
knew
that
would
happen
and
that
we've
been
trying
to
prepare
people
for
for
quite
some
time.
We're
not
missing
it
by
a
lot,
but
just
enough
to
turn
that
that
X
to
be
read,
so
that's
not
gonna
stop
either
at
least
for
the
next
few
months
so
be
aware
that
there
is,
there
is
a
slowdown
in
getting
stuff
out.
Well,
we
should've
already
forgave
me,
that's
the
highlight
of
what
I
wanted
to
tell
you
about.
J
There's
a
couple
other
slides
here
in
my
deck,
because
I
also
told
folks
on
a
completely
unrelated
fashion,
that
I
was
going
to
start
a
basically
a
vendor
satisfaction
survey
to
see
how
the
RFC
production
Center
is
doing
and
I
promised
you
an
update
by
ITTF
104,
so
that
update
is
in
these
slides.
If
you've
got
questions
about
it,
you
can
look
at
that
and
you
can
drop
me
a
note
if
you
want
any
more
information
that
I
can
share.
I.
J
K
Our
Silver
Sponsor
akame
there
thank
you
very
much
and
a
bronze
sponsor
the
best
VPN
comm
in
clinic
connectivity's
classes,
dial,
telecom
and
t-mobile.
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
service.
Of
course
they
make
everything
happen
for
us.
So
thank
you,
and
we
also
want
to
make
sure
we
faked
our
equipment
sponsors,
because
it
takes
a
lot
of
equipment
to
actually
bring
the
circuits
and
everything
in
to
make
everything
work,
cisco
again
and
juniper
networks.
K
K
K
Thank
you
very
much
for
coming
on
as
a
global
host.
The
global
hosts
are
the
highest
level
of
support
for
the
IETF,
and
we
really
appreciate
that
and
as
well
the
they
have
already
signed
on
to
support
IETF
106
in
Singapore.
So
thank
you
very
much
again
to
all
of
our
local
hosts,
many
of
pre
much
appreciation
for
all
that
you
do
and
regarding
sponsorship.
Changes
for
the
ITF
kim
board
and
what
most
of
some
of
you,
I
would
say,
have
a
chance
to
meet
Ken
during
the
last
year.
K
His
contract
has
concluded
as
the
IETF
sponsorship
sponsorship
fundraiser,
and
the
board
is
really
thanks
to
Kim
for
all
of
his
hard
work.
He
did
a
lot
while
he
was
here
during
the
last
year
and
as
we
move
on
the
board,
the
incoming
boarder,
who
was
official
mal,
will
take
time
to
actually
develop
a
longer
term
plan
for
what
they
see
as
the
in
sponsorship
for
in
fundraising
goals
for
the
ietf
LLC.
So
that's
coming
and
in
the
meantime,
if
you
are
interested
in
doing
any
type
of
sponsorships,
please
see
me
Porcia
win
Stanley.
K
K
We
have
identified
venues
up
through
IETF
111
in
San
Francisco,
and
so
we
just
wanted
to
point
out
that
we
have
dates
and
in
venues
that
are
identified
for
the
next
view
was
three
years
of
meetings
and
where
you
see
some
spots
there,
we
do
need
sponsors
for
those,
and
we
are
also
in
the
process
of
actually
identifying
and
working
on
the
contracts
for
four
other
venues.
So
a
lot
is
happening
for
meeting
hidden
for
the
IETF.
L
5
is
really
to
get
the
LLC
up
and
running.
It's
like
a
brand-new
baby.
You
got
a
feed
and
take
care
of
it.
Make
it
happen.
We
do
finalizing
the
financial
transaction
or
transcript
from
I
sock.
That
was
probably
one
of
the
key
things
to
accomplish
in
2018,
because
I
sock
was
providing
significant
portions
of
the
startup
capital
female
for
the
IGF
LLC.
L
That
was
a
very
long
road
to
get
there,
but
we
got
there
and
the
money's
in
the
bank
can
be
cashed.
The
check
so
yeah
we've
also
as
part
of
the
transition
there's
a
number
of
RFPs
for
services
such
as
a
Secretariat
that
we're
coming
up
do
as
many
people
know
these
contracts
we
have
for
these
services
are
periodically
required
to
be.
L
We
bid
just
to
make
sure
that
we're
getting
the
best
deal
overall
for
the
ITF
in
particularly
some
of
them
were
up
in
2018
for
a
rebid
as
approve
the
process,
but
because
of
the
LLC
coming
on
board
being
founded.
One
of
the
things
we
do
is
we
stall
with
many
of
them
and
delayed
them
into
2019
with
temporary
patches.
So
we
sort
of
kicked
it
over
to
the
incoming
Board
to
say
deal
with
this,
but
you're
fully
constituted.
L
You
know
up
and
running
with
all
your
governance
and
financial
models
in
place,
and
so
that
will
be
taking
place
this
year.
So
this
will
be
the
year
of
the
RFP
I
think
in
2019.
The
other
thing
we
will
also
be
doing
Porsche
is
our
interim
director.
She's
always
had
that
term
technical
techride
minute,
and
that's
because
it's
part
of
the
transition
plan
that
has
always
been
that
there
will
be
a
search
done
for
the
executive
director
of
Porsche
Pitney
in
in
term
of
ID.
L
Sorry
thank
you
and
we
renamed
the
executive
director
because
it
better
fit
with
a
role
within
an
LLC,
and
so
we
could
understand
it.
Work
with
sister
works,
we're
gonna
be
doing
a
search,
and
so
that
would
be
taking
place.
So
if
you
are
interested
the
there
will
be
a
process
we
don't
and
and
stay
tuned,
it
will
be
happy
very
shortly.
The
other
thing
we've
been
doing
is
been
getting
ready
for
the
incoming
new
board.
L
L
The
other
big
important
thing
that
was
really
made
clear
during
the
is
to
word
group
discussions
was
transparency
is
huge.
You
know
we
didn't
want
to
create
an
LLC
that
was
gonna,
go
off
and
be
secretive
and
closed
and
just
issue
you
know,
orders
down
from
on
high,
just
like
the
the
compliance
process
was
important
to
I,
saw
the
transparency
process
what's
important
to
the
community,
and
so
we've
been
working
very
hard.
L
One
of
the
very
first
actions
taken
by
the
board
when
we
started
up
in
August
was
to
declare
that
we
will
have
public
meetings
and
we've
been
doing
that
all
along,
including
when
we
had
a
in
the
fall.
We
are
in
a
separate.
We
have
a
face-to-face
for
companies
and
for
the
persons
of
that
which
are
not
confidential,
because
a
lot
of
what
we
deal
with
is
confidential
legal
contracts,
personnel,
types
of
stuff
and
financial
stuff.
We
have
to
be
careful
and
keep
that
confidential
for
that
stuff.
That
is
not
confidential.
L
He
was
wide
open
for
participants.
We
didn't
call
it
and
join
it
as
well.
The
meeting
minutes
that
we
take
during
that
are
all
made
public
and
published,
so
the
biddies
are
post
on
our
website
the
agenda.
The
goal
we
put
in
the
sake
of
the
ground
that
they
will
always
come
out
a
week
ahead,
so
please
join
in
and
follow
along.
If
you
want
to
know
more
about,
what's
going
on
inside
the
LLC
and
I
have
the
pleasure
of
announcing
our
in
welcoming
our
five
new
board
members.
We
have
Jason
Livengood
in
the
middle.
L
There
he's
been
selected
by
the
incoming
Board
as
their
chair.
We
have
Sean
Turner
who's
decided
to
become
the
Treasury
Peter
federalists
over
your
left,
my
right
Alisa
Cooper.
You
may
have
better
and
Maya
and
I'm.
Forgive
me
my
I
cannot
do
and
adrylek
okay
and
that's
the
report
from
the
outgoing
board.
Jason.
M
Great
thanks,
sorry,
shocking
transition,
right
literally
a
shock
and
so
I
think.
The
first
thing
is
to
thank
our
outgoing
interim
board
members,
I
think
Gonzalo
committee.
Oh
there
we
have
Ted
Hardy
and
Glenn
Dean
a
round
of
applause,
because
I.
M
Think
the
community
really
appreciates
that
it
was
really
an
unprecedented
kind
of
transition
that
we
just
went
through
from
the
IOC
to
this
interim
board.
With
a
great
deal
of
uncertainty
and
I
appreciate
know,
the
community
does
appreciate
your
navigation
of
that
and
I.
Don't
know
when
I
do
black
things
all
right.
So
if
I
could
ask
you
each
to
come
up
Ted
and
Gonzales
and
you're
obviously
already.
M
And
so
expected
focus
area
for
the
board
in
the
coming
year.
We
have
rather
a
lot
of
things
to
do
I
think
as
an
understatement
and
I
tried
to
just
sort
of
list
the
high
level
bits
here.
Obviously,
we
need
to
hire
a
full-time
or
permanent
executive
director
that
sort
of
job
number
one
and
a
lot
of
things
can
flow
from
that.
We
also
know
that
we
need
to
focus
on
these
sort
of
revenue
side
of
things.
M
If
you
will
certainly
Portia
mentioned
a
bunch
of
our
generous
sponsors
beforehand,
but
our
intent
is
to
grow
that
and
to
grow
and
build
a
foundation
of
support
for
the
ITF,
and
we
would
sort
of
put
those
in
two
different
buckets
a
few.
Well,
one
would
be
sponsorship,
which
was
traditionally
what
we've
done
and
then
fundraising,
which
is
really
more
about.
M
You
know
if
someone
has
a
problem
and
they
injured
themselves,
you
need
liability,
insurance
and
there's
a
whole
host
of
things
like
this
that
we
will
need
to
hire
people.
We
will
need
to
comply
with.
You
know
IRS
rules
in
the
United
States
for
tax
purposes,
and
so
on.
So
we
need
to
create
all
of
those.
Many
of
those
were
already
in
the
asset
to
document,
so
you
can
get
a
sense
of
what
they
are,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
them.
M
Luckily,
we've
got
some
other
very
experienced
board
members
that
are
here
that
are
on
other
to
have
experience
and
there
are
a
lot
of
best
practices
that
we'll
be
using
and
then
finally,
we
have
a
lot
of
services
that
are
coming
up
to
rebid
of
2019,
including
the
Secretariat
and
their
small
thing
and
I
would
say
throughout
all
these
things
around
the
policies,
compliance
and
especially
you
reap
it.
We
are
going
to
expect
a
need
and
rely
upon
a
lot
of
feedback
from
the
ITF
community.
M
We
don't
intend
to
do
this,
as
Glenn
said
in
terms
of
the
transparency
requirements
to
do
this
in
the
background,
but
we
are
going
to
genuinely
need
and
be
asking
for
your
requirements.
Your
feedback
in
different
areas
and
I
would
encourage
folks
to
do
that,
because
these
are
some
big
decisions
and
we
want
to
make
sure
we,
you
know,
make
make
the
right
decisions
for
a
lot
of
the
supporting
infrastructure
and
and
people
that
the
ITF
depends
upon,
and
so,
in
terms
of
you
know,
contact
information.
You
know
all
the
standard
stuff
there's
a
website.
M
Of
course
you
know
email
address
with
public
feedback.
You
can
reach
out
to
that
address
of
any
time
or
any
board
members
individually,
of
course,
but
if
you
send
a
mail
there,
it
goes
to
all
of
the
board
members,
no
one
else
other
than
the
board
members,
so
it's
private
to
within
the
board,
and
you
can
give
us
any
feedback
that
you
like
and
we're
asked
any
questions
and,
of
course
you
can
join
any
of
the
board.
Meetings
will
certainly
be
continuing.
M
N
So
basically
I
will
digit.
This
is
Mikey
boy
speech,
I
would
say,
because
so
we
have
a
new
set
of
Trustees
and
you
see
their
faces,
I
guess
on
the
Spree
I
guess
most
of
you
already
know
them
and
I'm
very
happy
that
we
have
this
descent
of
people.
Also.
Today
we
had
an
election,
which
was
basically
the
last
thing
I
executed
as
to
trust,
chair
and
plane
was
selected
protected
as
a
statue
and
Happiness
education.
O
L
P
Alright,
on
behalf
of
the
absent
scott
mansfield,
on
giving
the
pom-pom
update
for
ietf
104,
as
you
can
see
there,
it
says,
make
sure
someone
is
holding
the
ladder
and
Scott
had
a
small
accident
that
involved
a
very
quick
descent
from
a
ladder
that
keeps
him
from
traveling
for
the
couple
of
months
so
but
he's
hearing
on
Medeco,
and
we
wish
you
were
here
in
person,
so
I'm
happy
to
report.
All
of
the
cats
are
in
all
of
the
boxes.
P
We
had
I
believe
54,
unique
nominees
for
20
different
positions,
so
the
NomCom
managed
to
get
all
of
that
done.
I
think
that's,
probably
a
record
for
any
NomCom
and
we
are
finished
for
now.
So
we
are
in
quiet
mode.
If
something
comes
up,
we
will
be
reactivated
for
the
for
interim
actions,
but
otherwise
we're
going
to
be
handing
off
to
the
next
Donal
time.
P
P
These
filings
fine
folks,
aside
from
doing
the
things
that
you
see,
obviously
at
the
meetings
also
were
part
of
weekly
teleconferences
lots
of
email
and
many
deliberations,
and
these
are
the
confirmed
results
of
the
NomCom
process
for
2018-2019,
and
please
give
these
folks
a
round
of
applause
as
well.
We're
very
appreciative
for
their.
P
I'd
also
like
to
thank
the
community
without
the
community,
the
NomCom
process
would
not
go
well
at
all
all
of
the
people
that
ran
the
art,
gauntlet
of
long
questionnaires
and
perhaps
grueling
interviews.
We
thank
them.
The
community
members
also
who
provided
the
large
amounts
of
feedback
that
we
get.
We
do
read
all
of
that.
It's
all
kept
in
the
data
tracker
and
we
use
that
to
guide
our
decisions.
Q
Suppose
it
hands
back
to
you
when
I'm
done
only
a
couple
of
words:
I,
don't
really
have
a
slide.
It
was
a
busy
year,
as
Peter
mentioned,
and
Scott
did
a
really
really
good
job.
So
I
only
hope
that
in
the
incoming
year
that
we
can
do
as
good
of
a
job
that
Scott
did,
he
was
very,
very
organized.
We
had
a
lot
of
feedback,
many
many
many
many
hours
reading.
All
of
your
feedback
was
much
appreciated.
Q
We
could
not
do
this
without
the
support
of
all
the
members
were
voting.
The
members
from
the
various
bodies
to
help
us
along
the
way
Peter
did
a
great
job
from
you
know.
This
is
a
third
year
he's
basically,
here
doing
all
this
work,
so
I
really
appreciated
all
of
Peters
guidance,
and
so
just
hope
we
can
do
a
good
job
coming
up.
Please
if
you're
able
to
please
come
be
part
of
the
NomCom.
This
upcoming
year
is
a
lot
of
work
at
the
very
rewarding.
You
learn
a
lot
about
the
IETF
and
about
process.
Q
B
R
Thank
You
Alyssa
I'm,
Andrew,
Sullivan
I'm,
the
president
and
CEO
of
the
Internet
Society
I'm
here
to
talk
about
the
Jonathan
B
Postell
Service
Award,
which
is
something
that
the
Internet
Society
gives
out.
It
was
established
by
the
Internet
Society
to
honor
the
individuals
who
make
the
Internet
you
know
the
Internet
is
a
profoundly
human
thing,
it's
something
that
depends
on
people
to
make
it
happen,
and
it
affects
a
lot
of
people.
R
I
never
met
Jon
Postel,
but
I
know
him
somehow
through
the
work
that
he
did
and
the
legacy
he
left
us,
and
there
are
people
on
the
internet
who
do
this
for
us,
they
make
extraordinary
efforts
and
they
give
us
things.
They
leave
us
things
behind.
So
we
have
this
award,
it's
it's
in
his
name
and
you
know
people
get
a
trophy
and
they
get
some
money,
but
mostly
they're
recognized
as
one
of
these
people.
R
We
are
very
fortunate
to
have
this
marvelous
tool
and
we're
very
fortunate
that
there
are
people
who
work
so
hard
to
give
it
to
us.
We
want
people
who
have
given
sustained
and
substantial
technical
contributions
and
who
also
served
the
community.
The
nominations
are
open
until
the
15th
of
May
and
you
can
go
to
the
URL
there
on
the
screen
and
nominate
them
thanks
a
lot.
L
So
keep
it
quick,
we're
all
gonna
go
to
Montreal
game
who
loved
Montreal
last
summer.
I
did
the
food
was
awesome,
the
weather
is
great.
Let's
hope
the
weather
holds
as
well
as
it
did.
Last
time
was
I
had
a
great
time.
I
think
I,
probably
put
on
five
pounds.
Does
the
food
was
so
darn
good
in
Montreal
anyways,
we're
hosting
the
game?
We're
gonna
have
a
social,
so
look
for
news
on
that.
It
should
be
a
lot
of
fun.
L
B
So
I
wanted
to
spend
a
minute
here
to
remember
a
dearly
departed
member
of
our
community,
professor
B
Jun,
who
sadly
passed
away
in
February.
Far
too
soon.
Many
of
you
knew
professor
B
from
his
work
in
the
savvy
working
group
and
on
other
topics,
including
ipv6
and
Software
Defined
Networking
from
his
post
at
Tsinghua
University.
He
was
also
a
significant
contributor
to
the
development
of
the
Internet
in
China.
So
please
join
me
in
a
moment
of
silence
to
remember
professor
Fijian.
S
Hi
Eric
Griffin
has
been
a
contributor
to
the
ATF
and
to
the
Internet
in
general,
for
a
very
very
long
time.
He
has
about
60
RFC's
that
he
has
published
most
of
them
in
the
routing
area.
The
first
one
was
RC
827.
This
was
where
he
documented
EGP
the
exterior
gateway
protocol.
This
was
a
protocol
that
held
the
internet
together
before
BGP
you
in
existed.
I
met
Eric
personally
about
many
many
he
hears
after
that
that
our
students
published
in
1982.
S
But
it's
how
I
met
him
in
person.
We
were
both
working
at
Cisco.
He
had
already
done
very
significant
contributions
to
the
ATF.
He
had
co-authored
our
C
30
31,
which
is
the
MPLS
architecture
of
RC
&
25:47,
that's
MPLS
or
BT
MPLS
VPNs.
These
two
have
inspired
hundreds
of
others,
RFC's
hundreds
of
working
groups
and
that
we
still
have
significant
amount
of
work
in
the
routing
area,
Eric,
which
always
has
been
always.
S
S
He
then
went
on
and
explained
in
detail
what
he
was
working
on.
Details
is
one
of
the
very
important
characteristics
that
really
highlighted
his
abilities.
He
always
did
very
in-depth
reviews
of
drafts.
You
always
started
with
I
have
a
few
comments
and
then
he
went
deep
into
what
was
wrong
or
what
needs
to
be
corrected
in
the
different
documents.
S
B
She
has
continued
to
remain
dedicated
to
this
task
and
to
donating
her
time
and
helping
us
out
to
create
a
program
of
activities
that
help
new
people,
understand
ITF
technologies
and
processes
and
everything
else
that
they
need
to
be
successful
in
the
nhf.
So
she's
I,
don't
think,
will
necessarily
never
see
you
again
at
an
IETF
meeting.
I
think
she'll
be
back
to
the
idea,
but
stepping
down
from
from
her
role
in
the
edu
team.
So
please
join
me
in
thanking
Miriam
and
we
have
a
small
gift
for
you
as
well.
T
T
Now
the
ITF
journal
won't
be
no
more
and
so
I
decided
to
step
down
from
the
idea
team,
but
no
I'm,
just
kidding
I,
just
felt
like,
as
coincidence,
I
just
feel
like
I,
don't
have
enough
time
anymore
to
put
into
doing
a
good
job
good
enough
job
for
the
edge'
team,
so
I'm.
But
thanks
for
the
recognition,
it's
very
kind.
B
I've
known
for
a
while
this
moment
was
coming
and
I've
been
dreading
it,
as
many
people
know,
Jim
Martin
has
been
building.
Networks
for
the
ITF
for
23
years
will
be
stepping
down.
As
of
this
meeting
from
his
his
position
as
the
lead
of
our
NOC
Jim
is
the
closest
thing
that
this
community
has
to
a
real
magician,
as
I
said,
building
networks
for
23
years
here,
and,
if
you
think
about
this
community
and
the
kinds
of
demands
that
we
put
on
the
network,
our
propensity
to
be
able
to
complain
about
things
that
don't
work.
B
The
incredible
quality
of
this
network
and
the
incredibly
low
volume
of
complaints
by
comparison.
Much
of
that
is,
can
be
attributed
to
Jim's
leadership
of
the
nob.
But
not
only
that.
Jim
is
also
essentially
a
magician,
because
he's
capable
of
going
to
hotels
like
this
one
and
convincing
them
to
do
things
that
they
definitely
should
not
agree
to
and
in
some
cases
are
not
even
in
their
own
interest.
B
Jim
has
also
done
other
magic
tricks
like
building
a
network,
even
when
all
of
the
equipment
was
lost,
but
I
think
perhaps
most
importantly
for
this
community.
He
has
inspired
a
team
of
volunteers
to
dedicate
a
tremendous
amount
of
time
and
energy
and
resources
to
the
NOC,
and
that
includes
entire
extra
weeks
tacked
on
to
the
already
grueling
meeting
week.
B
Significant
investment,
while
they're
there
on
the
ground
extra
trips
to
conduct
a
site
qualification
visits,
so
that
we
can
find
out
in
advance
whether
we
think
the
venue's
will
work
for
us
or
not
and
really
through
his
his
collaborative
and
kind
spirit,
inspired
others
in
our
community
to
donate
and
to
serve
and
the
interests
of
making
the
IETF
better
and
and
the
internet
better
and
and
that's
a
real
magic
trick.
So
please
join
me
in
saying
thank
you
to
Jim.
U
Thank
You
Alyssa.
The
truth
is
you
get
my
name
up
front,
but
the
truth
is
it's
all
kinds
of
different
people
behind
the
scenes.
I
need
to
thank
all
of
the
equipment,
sponsors
and
link
sponsors
that
have
made
this
possible
Cisco
and
juniper
in
particular.
Juniper
just
recently
gave
us
a
bunch
of
new
routers
I
want
to
thank
them.
I
need
to
thank
all
the
chairs
when
I
started.
This
fred
was
the
chair
and
every
single
chair.
U
All
the
way
along
has
been
helping
us
make
sure
this
really
happens
because
they
actually
understand
the
impact
it
has
on
the
community.
So
I
really
appreciate
all
that
help,
and
certainly
we
we
have
all
the
folks
at
AMS
in
particular,
I've
gotta
say
how
much
I
appreciate
Laura
Nugent,
Stephanie,
McCammon
and
Marsha
gosh.
We
miss
you
Marsha
and
finally,
the
team.
U
My
team
is
a
really
amazing
set
of
people
they
come
and
they
dedicate
weeks
of
their
lives
they're
here
a
week
before
everybody
else
is,
and
it's
a
combination,
these
days
of
contractors
and
volunteers,
but
it's
all
through
their
consistent
effort
and
one
working
as
one
team
to
make
sure
that
what
is
delivered
here
both
in
the
guests
of
both
in
the
meeting
space,
as
well
as
up
in
the
guest
rooms,
because
well
that's
what
we
all
keep
working
all
the
time
and
the
IETF
does.
So
we
want
to
make
sure
that
that
happens.
U
So
there's
an
amazing
amount
of
work
and
I
mean
even
this
time
we
ended
up
having
to
take
over
all
of
the
wireless
in
the
guest
rooms,
not
just
take
it
over
like
we
usually
do,
but
we
had
to
reconfigure
the
whole
thing
so
I'm,
just
so
proud
of
my
team,
and
you
know
I'm
actually
also
want
to
thank
all
of
you.
I've
been
here
for
25
years,
I
have
seen
what
we've
done
as
a
community
to
impact
the
world
and,
frankly,
I
can't
wait
to
see
you
guys
do
in
the
next
25.
B
Ben
has
a
real
special
place,
at
least
from
my
perspective
as
one
of
the
other
founders
of
the
art
area.
There's
not
very
many
area
directors
who
can
claim
to
have
founded
an
area
so
when
we
merged
real
time
applications
and
infrastructure
and
applications
about
four
years
ago,
Ben
was
a
big
part
of
that
transition,
which
I
think
has
been.
He
said,
my
personally
completely
biased
view.
A
real
success
in
the
ietf
Ben
has
also
been
a
true
calming
force
on
the
IHG
I.
B
B
Nevertheless,
Ben's
presence
has
been
particularly
useful
and
critical
in
times
when
some
some
others
of
us
were
not
not
quite
getting
along
as
well
as
we
could
have.
Maybe
it's
his
Southern
roots,
I'm,
not
sure,
but
he's
always
been
been
able
to
kind
of
bring
us
back
together
and
show
us
what's
important,
he's
always
been
also
willing
to
take
the
lead
on
some
fairly
difficult
tasks.
B
Recently,
this
included
handling
an
appeal
response
handling
other
kinds
of
community
discussions
about
very
controversial
topics
like
what
does
the
updates
tag
mean
and
I'm
really
really
appreciative
for
all
of
that
effort.
So
then,
if
you
could
come
on
up
and
have
a
small
gift
of
appreciation
for
you,.
B
B
Next,
we
have
Spencer
Dawkins,
our
outgoing
transport
area
director,
so
Spencer's
been
serving
on
the
IHG
for
six
years,
he's
the
longest
serving
current
member
of
the
is
G,
which
means
that
as
he
as
he
departs
us,
we
are
losing
some
of
our
deepest
historical
context
on
the
is
G
which
is
actually
pretty
critical,
because
nobody
on
the
I
issue
you
can
ever
remember
like.
Oh,
we
talked
about
this
exact
thing
same
thing
last
year,
let
alone
six
years
ago,
but
Spencer
always
has
that
memory.
B
I
think
the
other
really
critical
thing
about
Spencer,
especially
at
a
time
when
we're
having
lots
of
discussions
in
the
IETF
about
how
do
we
work
together?
How
do
we
conduct
ourselves?
Spencer's
really
always
been
a
model
of
I,
would
say:
humility
and
kindness,
not
just
on
the
IE,
but
towards
every
person
that
he
interacts
with
is
as
far
as
I've
seen,
and
so
that's
that's
really
something
to
look
up
to.
We
also
have
Spencer
to
thank
for
one
of
the
working
groups,
which
is
most
difficult
to
schedule
on
the
entire
ITF
agenda.
B
B
V
B
B
Do
we
want
to
change
the
time
at
which
we
have
the
is
G
tell
it
chats,
which
are
typically
earlier
in
the
morning
or
at
least
in
the
in
the
evening,
but
not
in
the
middle
of
the
night
for
the
rest
of
us
and
Terri
graciously
said
no,
it's
it's
fine
I'll,
keep
him
in
the
middle
of
the
night,
so
he's
been
doing
that
every
two
weeks
for
the
last
four
years.
Please
like
buy
him
a
beer.
B
B
B
Think,
if
you
kind
of
balance
those
two
things
together,
what
you
can
make
a
determination
about
is
that
occur,
probably
had
more
discusses
per
hour
put
in
to
the
IHG
than
any
other
ad
that
that
has
served
in
recent
memory.
So
anyone
who's
actually
published
a
document
in
the
last
two
years.
Can
you
know
give
a
moment
of
thanks
that
he'll
be
stepping
down
from
the
ISU.
B
A
B
L
I,
don't
think
I've
ever
been
up
and
down
on
stage
as
many
times
since
today.
So
you
know,
hey,
there's
been
a
major
change
happen
in
the
LLC
and
the
ILC
we
shut,
the
ifc
dad
lost
beating,
but
one
of
the
things
that
always
kind
of
went
on
along
with
the
IOC
was
the
IDF
trust.
In
fact,
one
of
the
rules
for
being
an
ITF
trustee
up
until
recently
was
you
were
on
the
IOC,
and
so
it
is,
you
know,
sort
of
the
be
very
quiet
very
well,
not
well
understood.
L
Part
of
the
the
whole
administrative
and
Jalapa
makes
this
place
run.
That
is
the
trust
these
trustees
here
are
people
have
put
a
lot
of
work
in
reviewing
talking
about
trademark
management,
asset
management,
I
Anna,
it's
not
to
everybody,
especially
for
hard
core
engineers,
the
sexiest
stuff,
but
it's
really
important
not
to
really
thank
them
for
their
service.
We
have
blue
burger,
not
Leslie
Cooper
Jeff
Hardy
coming
Ranger
bar
the
former
chair,
Andrew
Sullivan,
who
managed
actually
to
be
a
trustee
twice
in
the
same
hereby
treatment
pass.
L
He
got
selected
by
the
Dom
calm
and
they
got
the
job
over
at
I
sock
as
the
CEO
I'm
president
and
he's
waited
resigned
from
the
the
IOC
I
think
it
we
appointed
because,
of
course,
the
CEO
and
president
of
Ison
was
on
the
ILC
and
once
he
gave
me
cameras
rusty,
so
he
just
couldn't
leave
I
got
edgy,
you
might
be
back
again,
I'm,
not
sure
we
may
worked
it
out
somehow
and
finally,
Porsche
who's
done
a
great
job.
Thank
you
Porsche.
So
thank
you
all
to
the
all.
The
outgoing
trustees.
X
So
I
think
all
of
the
outgoing
IEP
members
are
friends.
So
if
you
could
all
come
up
at
once,
that
probably
be
great
will
will
will
do
that
and
then
the
IAB
itself
will
will
join
you
in
a
minute.
But
if
you're,
an
outgoing
IV
member,
why
don't
you
come
up
now
and
in
a
moment
the
rest
of
you
I?
You
can
can
join
us
for
those
of
you
who
are
looking
forward
to
the
IB
open
mic
I
remind
you
that
we
send
our
report
in
email
before
this.
X
X
And
I'll
do
the
thanks
in
alphabetical
order,
because
there's
no
really
good
way
of
doing
it
and
and
first
is
Allison
and
Allison.
Many
people
don't
actually
realize
that
the
a
RTF
chair,
in
addition
to
doing
all
of
the
work
of
the
IRT
F,
is
also
a
non-voting
member
of
the
IAB,
and
that
vote
isn't
really
the
important
part
of
the
ID.
We
try
not
to
vote
very
much.
X
What
we
try
and
do
is
come
to
consensus
around
different
topics
and
the
IRT
F
chair
and
in
particular
Allison
has
been
a
wonderful
influence
on
us,
as
we've
considered
some
of
the
matters
before
us.
It's
a
hard
job
and
it's
a
job
which
comes
with
other
jobs,
and
we
really
want
to
thank
Allison
for
her
time,
not
just
as
IRT
f
chair,
but
as
a
member
of
the
IEP.
X
Don't
don't
tell
people
what's
in
it
just
yet,
because
you're
all
gonna
get
them
out
at
once
so
Gabriel
Montenegro
joined
the
IB
in
2017
and
in
addition
to
his
general
contribution,
he
served
on
the
plenary
planning
program,
the
stack
evolution
program,
the
ename
workshop
and
a
shepherd
of
some
of
our
critical
liaisons,
such
as
the
european
ICT
platforms
group.
Thank
you
very
much.
X
Roberts
joined
in
2015
and,
in
addition
to
his
contributions
to
the
general
work
of
the
idea,
he
was
the
IAB
publications
stream
manager.
He
served
as
an
on
combination
served
as
a
liaison
to
the
ASG
worked
on
the
IV's
response
to
the
FCC
inquiries
on
stir
and
shaken,
served
on
the
stack
evolution
program
and
that
bub
and
beyond
that
he
focused
himself
on
the
RFC
editor.
He
was
in
addition
to
being
the
stream
manager.
X
X
Suzanne
hates
going
last,
but
that's
just
the
luck
of
the
draw
she
joined
in
2015
as
well.
In
addition
to
her
contribution
to
the
general
work
of
the
ID,
she
served
on
the
protec
program,
the
plenary
planning
program,
the
concluded
internationalization
and
the
identifiers
programs
and
as
an
isg
liaison,
and
she
was
Shepherd
for
any
number
of
ICANN
related
processes.
Basically,
if
you
want
to
think
about
I,
can
she
did
the
work
on
that
she
was
a
joint
lead
of
the
ANA
program.
She
was
the
Shepherd
for
the
ICANN
NomCom
search.
X
X
So
if
you
would
get
out
the
gifts
now
to
show
people,
baguettes
are
basically
a
very
small
token
of
the
fact
that
we
will
always
treat
you
as
reserved
IAB
members,
helping
to
make
the
internet
better
more
resilient
and
more
available
to
the
world,
even
as
the
gifts
will
show
if
we
need
to
reboot
it
from
scratch,
because
these
are
copies
of
a
very
wonderful
book
of
the
Victorian
internet
and
a
set
of
telegraph
keys.
Just
in
case.
We
need
to
go
all
the
way
back.
X
And
now,
if
I
could
ask
the
rest
of
the
IAB
to
join
us
for
the
open
microphone
session,
I
know
there
was
one
person
who
had
a
question
for
Heather.
Heather
joins
us
as
well
during
the
course
of
this.
So
if
that
person
I
think
you
have
priority
in
line,
if
you
want
to
get
back
in
line
we'll
try
and
have
you
go
first.
B
X
Y
Z
I
wasn't
the
one
who
was
up
to
the
mic
before,
but
I
do
have
a
question
for
Heather
I'm
on
set
I.
You
mentioned
this
a3
software
that
you
need.
That
seems
to
be
hard
to
get
a
hold
of,
and
it
surprised
me
at
first
that
we
would
use
such
a
thing.
I
did
some
quick
reading
because
I
hadn't
heard
of
it
before
it
sounds
to
me
like
this
is
necessary
to
support
the
SVG
import
is.
Can
you
clarify
that.
J
So
there,
the
short
answer
is
to
look
at
one
of
the
RFC,
seven,
nine,
five
or
four,
or
something
like
that.
The
PDF
requirements
for
the
new
format.
What
I'm
looking
for
is
a
format
that
was
designed
for
archiving
and
one
of
our
requirements.
Event
archiving
is
that
the
XML
must
be
included
in
the
document
so
that
it's
a
completely
self-contained
PDF
file.
That
inclusion
of
the
XML
takes
it
just
from
PDF
a1
to
a
PDF
a3
right.
J
A
good
question:
that's
something:
I
was
talking
to
Henrik
about
earlier
right
now
we're
looking
at
people
that
would
want
to
do
a
mathematical
formulas
putting
it
in
like
the
NS
VG
image,
we've
talked
about
using
math
and
math
ml
that
doesn't
I
participate
in
the
w3
C's
publishing
working
group,
and
there
seems
to
be
a
lot
of
kind
of
controversy
about
how
to
put
mathematical
equations
in
web
documents,
for
example,
and
some
recommend
mathjax
some
recommend
math
I'm
not
actually
sure
what
would
be
the
right
solution
for
us.
F
Hi
Richard
burns
I'm
gonna
do
you
know
continue
the
RFC
editor
love
here,
so
I've
been
checking
out
some
of
the
reports.
You
know
that
you
guys
produce
fare
periodically
on
the
performance
of
the
RPC
noticing
that
you
guys
have
been
in
the
kind
of
lower
categories
of
SLA
performance
recently,
so
I'm
just
wondering
what
the
plan
is
for
remediation
there
and
coming
back
into
compliance
for
the
SaaS
very.
J
Good
question
so
in
2016,
or
so
we
recognized
that
there
was
going
to
be
a
problem
when
we
hit
the
format
transition,
because
we
were
going
to
be
doing
so
much
more
than
just
editing
documents.
We
were
going
to
be
writing
new
procedures.
We
were
going
to
be
doing
additional
training.
We
were
going
to
be
learning
a
whole
new,
XML
really,
and
so
we
had
requested
through
that.
J
Now
one
of
the
things
I
didn't
do
that
I,
probably
should
have,
was
so
that
was
2016
2017.
This
is
now
2019
should
I
have
gone
back
to
the
well
and
said:
hey,
you
know.
We
told
you
this.
This
is
what
you
said
you
could
do
then
has
anything
changed
that
that
I
did
not
do
so
we're
working
at
at
a
difficulty
right
now.
So
do
you
have
an
ETA
on
when
we
should
expect
to
see
green
again,
probably
towards
the
end
of
this
year?.
AD
J
J
I
have
heard
that
actually
many
many
times
where
people
said
yeah.
We
knew
that
was
a
problem,
but
we
figured
you
would
just
fix
that
you'll
you'll
just
fix
the
references.
You'll
just
fix
this
particular
table.
We
know
it's
a
bad
table,
but
you'll
just
fix
it,
the
less
we
have
to
just
fix
the
formatting
and
you
know
fix
the
content
that
way
the
better
things
will
go.
I.
X
L
AF
H
B
D
E
AE
B
AI
David
black,
so
Warren
asked
me
to
say
this,
so
it's
a
good
idea.
Thank
born.
It's
a
bad
idea.
Blame
blame.
Blame
me.
I
thought
the
routing
architecture
session
this
afternoon
was
excellent,
very
useful,
and
it
was
clearly
a
really
good
idea
to
hold
it
during
the
week
as
opposed
to
in
the
usual
Sunday
tutorial
slot.
So
well
done.
Thank
you.
B
AJ
Yo
Cydonia
so
I'm
happy
to
join
ite
in
person.
Again
last
time,
I
joined
IETF
remotely
and
during
the
IETF
meeting
Gareth
a
lot
side
meeting
that
was
I,
see
the
I
think
I
was
very
exciting,
but
I
couldn't
participate
remotely
because
no
audio
or
video
equipment
in
the
side
meeting
room
so
I
hope
to
give
opportunity
to
for
the
remote
participants
to
join
side
meeting.
B
Okay,
so
just
a
couple
of
a
couple
of
responses
on
that:
it's
not
you're,
not
the
only
person
who
has
expressed
this
to
us
there's
a
few
reasons
why
we
could
don't
currently
provide
remote
participation
for
side
meetings.
One
is
that
we're
doing
an
experiment
with
side
meetings?
I
didn't
talk
about
it
in
the
plenary
deck
because
it's
been
going
on
for
some
time,
but
you
can
read
more
about
it
in
our
pre-meeting
report
and
part
of
the
thinking
with
why
we
are
not
supporting
remote
participation
in
the
side.
B
Meetings
was
that
we
were
trying
to
clarify
some
of
the
distinctions
between
what
is
an
official
sanctioned
IETF
activity
on
the
ITF
agenda,
with
full
support
versus
what
is
organized
activity
by
the
community
itself.
We
had
we've
had
some
issues
in
the
past
with
fusion
around.
What's
a
real
buff,
and
if
people
just
organize
a
side
meeting
that
looks
enough
like
a
buff,
then
they
start
to
tell
people
that
they
had
a
buff
and-
and
that
was
creating
some
some
difficulty
for
us.
AK
Parvati's
I've
reviewed
a
number
of
documents
that
were
related
to
yang
modeling
and
I
found
that
often
people
put
values
that
are
in
IANA
registries
into
RFC
documents,
and
so
you
get
these
incomplete
or
obsoleted
entries
of
yang
values
in
RFC's.
Well,
they
should
really
be
pointers
to
the
the
proper
IANA
registries.
So
I
think
it
would
be
good
if
there's
some
some
stearing
happening
across
the
working
groups
to
make
sure
that
we
don't
produce
those
those
documents
in
that
way.
D
So
speaking
of
the
work
related
to
yang
modeling,
and
especially
the
coordination
between
the
work
on
the
separate
technology
components
for
models-
yes,
that's
an
area
that
is
lacking,
and
this
is
something
that
is
certainly
on
my
focus
and
we
probably
will
see
something
more
tangible
happening
across
the
coordination
of
the
model
development
soon
so
from
from
a
public
perspective.
This
is
understood,
and
there
are
items
to
try
to
address
that.
This
probably
will
not
be
a
very
quick
and
simple
fix,
but
at
least
does
work
on
one
in
that
direction.
AL
Hi
Alysa
Eliot
here
we
had
a
really
good
side
meeting
on
IOT
onboarding
today
and
I
want
to
thank
Taurus
and
Kent
and
a
few
others
for
really
helping
us
to
try
and
at
least
document
what
we're
doing
what
what
is
available
in
terms
of
capabilities
for
IOT
onboarding,
particularly
for
wireless
and
I,
and
the
arm
a
side
meeting
mechanism
has
been
particularly
useful
for
me
for
a
number
of
ways.
One
comment
that
I
did
want
to
pass
to
the
is
G
and
I
suspect.
AC
AC
So
whatever
you're
doing,
please
continue,
but
I
think
you
for
that.
I
do
have
a
question.
I
would
like
to
know
what
your
plans
are
to
drive
growth
in
the
IETF
in
the
form
of
attracting
new
people
to
come
in
and
work
on
existing
work
products
and
then
also
to
get
people
to
come
to
the
IETF
with
their
work
and
have
it
be
done
here
versus
choosing
another
SDO.
Thank
you.
B
Thanks,
so
just
on
the
on
the
first
bit,
you
know,
I
talked
a
little
bit
about
the
things
that
that
we've
done
in
the
IHG
since
103,
but
I
would
say
that
part
of
raising
awareness
is
just
creating
a
conversation
in
the
community
about
some
of
these
issues.
So
I
would
turn
that
back
on
you
and
others
who
raised
the
issue
to
us
at
the
last
meeting
and
have
been
continuing
to
engage
on
the
topic
of
conduct
and
behavior
and
how
we
work
together,
because
I
think
that's
actually
probably
the
most
influence.
B
AA
Didn't
mean
to
interrupt
you
though
I'm
Wes
Hart
occur,
the
ietf
guides
lead,
went
up
to
and
I
have
to
say
that
the
number
of
positive
compliments
I've
gotten
from
newcomers
that
come
to
this
organization
and
get
help
either
through
the
guides
program
or
just
people.
You
know
walking
them
through
the
process.
V
If
I
could
yeah,
if
I
could
just
respond
to
that
a
little
bit,
so
it
seems
like
to
me
that
there's
two
things
that
are
helpful.
One
is
that
when
people
do
come
here
that
we
don't
scare
them
away
and
the
numbers
for
first-time
attendees
are
kind
of
amazing,
you
know
they're,
you
know
like
well
we'll
see
150
250
people,
people
who
are
first-time
attendees
in
a
meeting,
but
we're
not
growing
by
a
hundred
people.
V
You
know
or
a
hundred
people
meeting
you
know
so
like
people
come,
you
know
so
for
people
who
and
I'm
not
talking
like
now,
I'm
talking
like
over
the
past
40
years,
that
you
know,
we've
always
had
417
these
and
frankly,
a
lot
of
them
kind
of
bounced
off
and
I.
Think
that
we
have
made
an
awful
lot
of
changes
to
make
it
easier
for
people
to
come
in
here
and
at
least
get
their
feet
on
the
ground
and
understand.
V
You
know
whether
it's
where
there
is
the
the
side
meeting
experiment
that
turned
into
another
experiment
or
whether
it
was
how
to
RFC.
That
was
an
experiment
that
sounds
like
it's
about
to
not
be
an
experiment,
but
just
anything
that
we
can
do
to
help
people
find
each
other
and
have
conversations
with
each
other
I'm
I'm
holding
my
first
brainstorming
session
that
I
announced
at
I/o
RFC
of
tomorrow-
and
you
know
it's
like
I've,
just
been
too
busy
as
an
area
treasure,
but
hey
I
used
to
be
an
area
director
right.
V
V
I
think
that
you
know
that
that's
really
been
important
too
and
the
you
know
the
two
things
I'd
say
about
that
or
you
know
that's
a
lot
of
that
stuff
is
pretty
new
and
a
lot
of
it
was
done,
and
you
know,
interaction
with
the
community.
It
wasn't
like
the
IHG,
went
off
into
a
cave
and
came
back
out
with
this
brilliant
plan,
so
I
think
you
know.
You'll
deserve
a
puppy
hand
on
that
as
well.
Thank
you
all
for
the
work
that
you
do
so.
AG
A
couple
of
points
from
my
point
of
view
is
that
when
we
will
talk
about
the
tone
of
the
meetings,
there's
a
fantastic
line
that
pretty
much
says
the
culture
you
have
is
based
on
the
behaviors.
You
condone
now
that
sits
on
everyone's
shoulders.
It
sits
on
our
shoulders
and
it
sits
on
your
shoulders,
so
think
deeply
about
that
in
the
meetings
in
the
working
group
meetings
in
the
efforts
that
you
undertake
within
the
IETF.
AG
What
my
second
point
is
that,
and
this
kind
of
harks
back
to
one
of
one
of
something
my
professor
told
me
as
a
as
a
post
grad-
was
that
you're
no
longer
the
customer,
you
are
the
product
and
as
the
product
you're
the
key
to
the
network,
and
it's
not
just
that
the
network
of
on
building
routers
and
things
like
that.
It's
a
network
of
people,
so
each
and
every
one
of
you
are
the
part
of
the
network.
AG
So
go
back
to
your
organization
and
if
you
want
to
build
the
IETF,
go
back
to
your
organization
and
pick
that
junior
engineer
pick
that
junior
developer
and
drag
them
along
to
the
IETF
facilitate
them
coming
here.
Facilitate
them
learning,
facilitate
them,
contributing
and
bringing
them
into
this
culture
and
adjusting
that
the
growth
of
the
IETF.
B
Just
a
little
bit
on
the
question
about
growth,
I
think
it's
important
to
remember
that,
in
terms
of
sheer
numbers
of
people
we're
not
trying
to
maximize
that
value
right,
we
even
actually
have
a
census.
Rfc
2b,
which
says
that
maximizing
attendance
at
the
meetings
is
not
a
goal
and
that's
important
because
it
keeps
us
focused
on
what
the
goal
actually
is,
which
is
you
know,
facilitating
interoperability
and
developing
the
technologies
that
are
going
to
make
the
internet
work
better.
B
B
We've
had
a
number
of
us
and
other
people
in
the
community
that
we've
engaged
with
to
reach
out
to
some
of
the
operators
groups,
the
some
of
the
rars
I
think
we've
had
a
particular
help
from
the
IRT
F
side
and
RW
&
A
&,
R
P,
bringing
in
a
whole
new
batches
of
folks
from
the
academic
research
communities.
Just
been
a
great
effort
and
other
kind
of
smaller
engagements,
so
some
people
know
that
the
net
dev
conference
was
here.
B
Last
week
we
had
some
cross-pollination
with
the
Linux
kernel
developers
there,
a
number
of
us
were
there
in
attendance
and
gave
talks
and
so
on.
So
obviously
people
up
here
we're
you
know
we're
all
volunteers
too,
we
don't
have
unlimited
budgets
for
outreach.
Nor
do
we
have
unlimited
time,
but
we've
been
trying
to
do
some
targeted
efforts
to
talk
to
particular
communities
where
we
think
that
the
engagement
could
be
better,
that
we
could
derive
more
value
from
them
and
they
from
us.
So
that's
one
kind
of
smaller
thing
that
we've
been
doing
as
well.
A
AH
Yong-Ho
I
just
saw
my
personal
suggestion,
so
I
can
will
open
her
new
gTLD
application
soon
I'm.
What
I'm
wondering
is
the
ITF
or
RC
can
be
applied
as
a
new
gTLD,
for
example,
I
have
a
have
probably
RC
I
have
maybe
apply
I'll
say
to
Todai
CFO,
as
as
my
tummy
name,
everyone
can
check
my
tummy
name
of
C
member
itea
for
chagum
a
night
FC
FC
contender,
also
some
company,
for
example
Cisco
or
for
my
company
cynical
or
some
Microsoft
ITF.
They
can
check
out
any
me.
AH
I
have
related
a
workout
by
the
company,
so
also
I.
Think
there's
two
benefits
for
the
pending
faces:
they
we
can
easily
identify
the
the
work.
Also
social
FC
is
more
easily.
So
second
icing
is:
we
can
increase
the
revenue
over
ietf
because
when
I
first
joined
idea
for
a
runner
to
say
2000-2005
that
her
so
a
registration
fee
is
fire
around
500,
the
US
dollar.
Now
a
protester
already
taboo
around
1000,
a
US
dollar
I.
Think
if
we
have
our
idea
of
annuity
tod
selling
tommy
name,
so
we
can
maybe
we
net.
X
Thank
you
very
much
for
your
suggestion.
I
want
to
point
out
to
two
things
very
quickly.
One
is
that
the
internet
society,
which
of
course
has
been
a
is
our
corporate
home
and
a
longtime
donor
to
the
ITF
activity,
also
has
another
body
in
it.
Pir
the
Public
Interest
registry
I
think
it
might
be
a
little
bit
confusing
for
the
ITF
to
go
into
the
business
of
one
of
the
other
subsidiaries
of
of
ice
up
and
furthered
the
actual
string
ITF
as
a
reserve
string.
X
I
Julia
scrubber
check,
so
thank
you
very
much
for
you
from
the
for
what
you
are
saying
earlier.
I'm
actually
part
of
the
underpaid
working-class
minority
were
mentioning
academia
and
so
I
in
fairly
active
over
the
line.
I
think
I've
been
fairly
active
over
the
last
year's
at
IETF.
I
have
my
name
on
six
or
seven
drafts,
of
which
four
are
in
the
last
stages
of
publication.
I
That's
been
four
years
of
very
hard
work
which
I'm
very
glad
for
and
when
I
realized
a
few
years
ago,
that
I
was
going
to
get
involved
and
that
I
was
going
to
have
to
come
fairly
regularly
at
ITF
I
actually
had
to
ask
for
extra
funding.
So
that's
an
additional
stepping
stone
if
you
want
to
get
involved
to
the
ATF
by
academic
criteria,
the
ITF
meetings
are
very
expensive,
and
so,
if
you
are
thinking
about
outreach,
perhaps
you
might
consider
something
I.
B
AB
So
I
don't
have
a
good
answer,
I'm
sure
it's
not
a
new
problem,
but
does
not
seem
we
are
converging
and
the
problem
is
is
then
it
was
an
issue
of
represented
representation
who
we
mean
when
we
say
the
community
who
are
we
I,
don't
know,
I,
don't
think
it's
actually
a
correct
representation
of
what
the
real
constituencies
of
those
objects
connected.
Those
people
organization,
part
of
the
network-
many
are
not
here.
So
are
we
missing
some
feedback?
Loop
from
from
some
people,
thank
you
thank.
B
You
certainly
appreciate
your
comments.
I
think
it
isn't
I
totally
agree
with
you
they're,
not
not.
Everybody
is
here,
and
that
is
actually
part
in
part
by
design
right.
So
there's
a
lot
of
work
that
we
do,
that
can
be
done
entirely
remotely
and
we
really
encourage
that
in
the
IETF,
and
that
applies
equally
to
people
who
don't
want
to
show
up
in
person
and
and
also
you
know,
fortunately
or
unfortunately,
people
who
can't
afford
to
come
so
I
think
it's.
It's
really
important
to
remember.
To
reinforce
that.
You
know.
B
AM
I'm
Watson
I
want
to
thank
you
all
for
the
work,
hard
work
you
do
and
I
was
like
to
say
that
remote
participation
can
get
valuable
things
done.
This
is
the
first
time
I've
been
to
an
IEEE
ATF
meeting.
I
came
here.
Many
people
are
like.
Oh,
you
exist.
They
know
me
for
videos.
They
know
me
from
contributions
of
drafts.
I
just
want
to
thank
you
for
making
it
possible
to
do
that.
It's
really
been
a
tremendous.
It
really
is
a
big
achievement.
Thank.