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From YouTube: IETF105-NEWCOMERSWEBINAR-20190710-1200
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NEWCOMERS webinar session at IETF105
2019/07/10 1200
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/105/proceedings/
A
A
A
A
The
first
thing
about
the
IETF
is
we
have
something
called
that
the
IETF
note
well,
and
you
will
have
possibly
read
it
or
acknowledged
it
when
you
register
for
the
meeting-
and
this
is
our
basically
set
of
rules
and
procedures
that
we
need
to
follow
all
of
the
policies
that
are
in
effect,
it
covers
things
such
as
our
anti-harassment
policy,
our
code
of
conduct
also
IPR
rules,
patents
and
participation
and
those
kinds
of
things.
So
this
is
the
set
of
the
of
at
the
beginning
of
every
working
grip
session.
A
A
The
next
thing
I'd
like
to
highlight
specifically
for
newcomers,
are
a
set
of
activities
that
we
have
at
the
upcoming
IETF.
Specifically
to
get
you
up
to
speed.
There
will
be
a
newcomers
tutorial
on
Sunday
afternoon
this
it's
actually
a
it's
the
same
set
of
slides.
Sometimes
the
questions
are
a
little
bit
different,
but
it's
the
same
information
that
you'll
be
getting
today
slightly
different
set
of
presenters.
A
If
you
have
additional
questions,
if
it
would
be,
might
be
useful
to
go
again
otherwise
up,
you
can
probably
skip
that
one.
The
IETF
quick
connections
is
a
short.
It's
a
one-hour
session,
it's
sort
of
short
one-on-one
conversations.
We
do
ask
that
you
sign
up
for
that
in
advance,
but
it
is
an
opportunity
to
have
you
know
sort
of
like
three
to
five-minute
conversations.
A
Basically,
with
a
number
of
different,
experienced
ihe
efforts,
you
can
ask
them
any
questions
that
you
have.
It
seems
like
a
little
bit
of
an
odd
type
of
an
activity,
but
it
seems
to
work
really
well.
We
do
have
a
mentoring
program
called
IETF
guides.
If
you
would
like
you
know,
some
people
come
and
they're
already
well
familiar
with
the
IETF
and
they
have
colleagues.
Others
would
like
to
have
a
mentor
to
help
get
them
started
and
there's
information
on
the
guides
program.
A
There
is
a
newcomers
dinner
on
Monday
night,
that's
strictly
informal,
it's
organized
by
the
Secretariat
that
runs
the
meeting.
There's
a
small,
you
know
the
small
cost
to
cover
your
food,
but
it's
very
informal
for
newcomers
to
get
to
know
each
other
and
then
finally,
we
do
have
a
feedback
session
on
Thursday
and
we
are
really
interested
in
your
feedback
on
how
it
can
make
this.
Our
new
comer
set
of
activities
more
effective.
A
So,
moving
on
to
the
this
presentation
itself,
this,
the
scope
of
this
presentation,
is
not
the
entire
history
of
the
IETF.
It
is
specifically
about
the
basic
set
of
information
that
you
need
to
help.
You
start
your
participation
in
the
IETF.
You
know
whether
it's
immediately
useful
to
you
as
you
get
started
and
strategies
that
will
hopefully
make
the
most
of
your
meeting.
A
There
is
a
set
it's
a
little
bit
dated
at
this
point,
but
this
YouTube
channel
has
this
playlist
scott
Brandner
a
long
time
participant
in
the
IETF
and
leader
of
the
community
did
a
whole
series
of
tutorials
on
history
and
the
various
process
pieces
of
the
IETF.
A
few
of
them
need
to
be
updated,
but
it
is
a
very
comprehensive
set
of
information.
A
So
the
mission
of
the
IETF
is
is
basically
to
make
the
internet
better
by
producing
good
standards.
You
know
high
quality,
relevant
technical
documents
that
have
an
impact
on
the
way
people
design
manage
and
use
the
Internet.
This
mission
has
been
around
for
quite
a
while.
So
what
exactly
is
the
IETF?
A
It
is
in
an
international
standards,
development
organization.
You
may
be
familiar
with
other
standards,
development
organizations
like
I,
Triple,
E
or
ITU
ANSI
Etsy,
there's
a
number
of
standards
organizations
out
there.
The
IHF
is
self
selected
individual
participants
in
a
sense
that
there's
no
formal
membership.
So
your
your
participation
is
not
based
on
the
company
that
you
work
for,
or
you
know
the
number
of
meetings
that
you've
attended.
A
We
don't
do
any
formal
voting.
We
do
home
to
determine
consensus
and
there'll
be
another
slide,
a
little
bit
later
about
consensus
and
humming,
and
all
of
that
there's
also
no
formal
government
role.
So
it's
it's
not
like
the
ITU.
In
that
sense,
it's
driven
by
market-based
adoption.
So
we
don't
mandate
the
use
of
any
of
the
standards
we
developed
this
publication,
we
develop
the
specifications
and
we
publish
them
and
then
it's
up
to
the
market
to
actually
take
them
and
develop
them
and
deploy
them.
A
Let's
focus
on
internet
technologies,
sort
of
goes
without
saying,
I,
guess
and
it
is
bottom-up
and
and
quite
unique
in
the
world
of
standards.
At
this
point,
the
IETF
is
currently
divided
into
a
number
of
areas
that
group
the
work
into
areas
that
are
similar.
We
currently
have
seven
areas
and
we
have
applications
in
real
time.
So
you
know
the
SIP
and
the
voice
conferencing
and
those
kinds
of
things
fall
into
that
category.
A
Transports
of
TCP,
UDP,
quick,
those
kinds
of
things
fall
into
the
transport
area,
routing,
obviously
the
the
core
of
the
Internet,
the
routing
protocols.
The
internet
area
has
a
lot
of
your.
You
know.
You
know
the
historical
layer,
layering
model
ipv4
ipv6.
It
also
has
the
technologies
that
are
a
little
bit
lower
than
that
and
connect
into
that
ops
and
management
are
operationally
related
working
groups
and
network
management.
Types
of
working
groups
are
and
their
security.
There's
a
large
number
of
working
groups,
that's
associated
with
security,
so
TLS.
A
Acme
for
certificate
based
things,
a
whole
bunch
related
to
authentication,
ooofff,
cozy,
a
number
of
ones
that
are
related
to
web
based,
authentication
and
non
web
based,
authentication
and
finally,
the
general
area,
which
basically
has
all
of
the
other
things.
So
the
general
area
tends
to
not
have
a
lot
of
working
groups
in
it.
A
There
is
one
I,
don't
know
if
it's
actually
meeting
this
time
or
not
I
didn't
think
to
look
at
it
right
now.
Is
the
I
asked
the
working
group
which
is
looking
at
reorganizing
the
administrative
structure
of
the
IETF,
so
the
working
groups
around
the
administrative
structure
and
and
those
kinds
of
things
fall
into
the
general
area.
A
So
rough
consensus
is
basically
that
you
move
something
forward
or
you've
achieved
rough
consensus
when
all
of
the
issues
have
been
addressed,
but
they
may
not
necessarily
have
been
accommodated.
So
you,
a
working
group,
can
have
rough
consensus
to
move
ahead,
even
though
somebody
has
raised
an
outstanding
issue
that
has
not
actually
been
accommodated
it.
A
So
everybody
has.
You
know
dissenting
opinions
are
heard,
but
they
don't
necessarily
stop
the
work
we
use
humming
as
a
way
to
measure
consensus
and
I
was
wondered
about
this
myself.
You
know
what
what
is
the
point
of
humming
and
you
know
even
some
of
the
articles
in
the
popular
press.
Sometimes
that
talk
about
the
IETF
mentioned
humming
is
weird
behavior
that
the
IETF
does,
but
it
actually
is
a
way
to
measure
you
know
not
only.
A
A
You
know
that
people
are
in
favor
of
it,
but
they're
not
really
that
passionate
about
it,
whereas
if
it
said
you
know
it's
a
real
controversial
issue-
and
you
know,
we've
seen
this
some
times
where
you'll
have
you
know
you
know
people
humming
as
loud
as
they
can.
You
know.
This
is
something
that
you
know
there.
If
they
had
several
votes,
they
would
be
voting
multiple
times.
So
this
is
where
humming
comes
in
the
chair
of
the
session.
A
A
So
that's
enough
on
that.
I
speak
briefly
a
little
bit
about
IETF
culture,
the
you
know
every
organization
that
I've
ever
been
a
part
of
every
standards
group
or
every
professional
association.
Every
everything
has
its
unique
culture
and
the
IETF
is
in
that
sense
is
no
different.
It's
a
lot
of
very
passionate,
smart,
vocal
people.
It
is
an
informal
organization,
so
in
formal
dress
code
people
love
their
t-shirts
and
they're.
Very
proud
of
you
know
their
t-shirts
that
date
back
to
you
know
IETF
s
many
years
ago
in
the
ie.
A
What
we
really
want
to
say
is
that
technical
excellence
is
highly
valued
so
and
that
a
number
it's
it's
an
organization
that
you
know
as
as
time
moves
on
you.
You
develop
close
working
relationships
with
people,
so
it
is,
is
it's
meant?
It's
meant
to
be
very
technically
competent,
fun
and
passionate,
but
at
all
times
respectful
of
the
individuals.
A
A
A
A
You
know
most
of
them
have
some
of
them
actually
have
theory,
and
that
group
of
area
directors
is,
is
the
steering
group
of
the
IETF
and
that's
the
iesg
so
on
the
right
of
your
picture,
you'll
see
the
blue
area
with
the
iesg
and
the
areas,
and
then
the
working
groups
inside
the
areas,
a
parallel
organisation
to
be
to
the
iesg
and
the
IETF,
is
the
IRS
G,
which
is
the
I,
mean
sorry,
the
IRT
F,
which
is
the
internet
research
task
force.
So
you
have
the
IETF
and
the
IRT
F.
A
So
if
it's
ready
to
be
developed
into
a
protocol
specification,
it's
the
IETF
and
if
it's
still
sort
of
a
researchy
type
topic,
then
it's
the
IRT
F
and
the
IRT
F
also
has
a
steering
group
and
it
has
a
number
of
research
groups
and
generally
it
meets
the
same.
You
know
some
of
these
research
groups
meet
in
parallel
with
the
IETF.
We'll
talk
more
about
that
later
separate
from
that
there's
the
internet
architecture
board.
A
This
is
made
up
of
I
think
it's
12
individuals
that
are
selected
by
the
by
a
process
by
the
NomCom
process
and
they
handle
things
they
handle
overarching
architectural
types
of
issues
and
they
also
handle
you
know:
appointments
to
additions,
managing
liaisons
that
kind
of
thing
the
handle
loves
aspects
of
the
ICF
and
new.
This
year
we
have
changed
our
administrative
structure.
We
now
have
something
called
the
VI
ETF
LLC,
and
this
handles
all
the
administrative
affairs
of
the
ietf.
A
So
in
awarding
of
contracts
and
payment
of
you
know
all
of
the
administrative
pieces
that
keep
the
ietf
running
and
I
think
I
talked
sufficiently
through.
All
of
this
I
had
the
iesg.
Does
the
technical
management,
the
IETF,
the
IRT
f,
is
looking
at
longer
term
research
topics
that
may
eventually
transition
to
the
IETF.
The
IAB
is
oversight
of
the
overall
internet
architecture
and
the
standards
process.
A
B
B
Okay,
so
from
the
outside,
especially
if
you
just
sort
of
laying
there
hotel
lobby
during
the
week,
it
looks
like
organize,
looks
like
chaos,
but
it's
actually
a
lot
going
on
and
it's
all
be
very,
very
organized
and
scheduled
the
schedule
of
events
changes
as
they
say.
We
have
a
final
schedule
now,
but
there
will
be
notices
and
changes
up
until
the
day.
B
Something
is
supposed
to
happen
that
won't
happen
for
big
things
like
the
pleasure
which
I'll
mention
or
a
deep
dive,
but
it
can
often
happen
that
a
working
group
will
be
cancelled
at
the
last
minute.
The
logistics
or
people
just
not
being
interested,
or
they
had
two
sessions
and
they
ended
up
not
needing
it
and
so
on.
So
the
kinds
of
things
that
are
on
the
agenda
I
think
agenda
is
available
online.
B
You
probably
should
have
gotten
a
link
or
seen
the
link
when
you
register
there'll
be
a
link
at
the
end
of
the
page
there's
working
group
sessions,
that's
the
bulk
of
what
we're
all
about.
I'll
talk
some
more
about
that
birds
of
a
feather
or
informal
starting
things.
All
of
these
we'll
get
into
most
of
these
we'll
cover
it
in
subsequent
slides,
as
I
RTF
Karen
mentioned,
is
looking
at
things
that
don't
fit
into
a
neatly
a
little
problem,
let's
say,
for
example,
Human
Rights
implications
and
privacy
requirements,
and
so
on.
B
He
on
perfect
network
protocols.
There
are
some
that
are
very
good,
fit
and
focus
for
sort
of
an
advanced
development
team.
If
you
think
of
it.
In
a
commercial
environment
such
as
the
crypto
forum,
research
group
always
comes
up,
you
know,
they're,
the
ones
that
you
assigned
experts
for
new
crypto,
algorithms
and
so
on.
I'll
call
out
the
A&R
you.
This
is
an
ACM
conference.
There
are
invited
papers,
presentations,
you
can
need
to
register
I,
believe
it's
Monday
Tuesday,
but
you
can,
with
your
it's
free
with
your
IETF
attendance,
the
hackathons
and
cold
sprints.
B
B
Alright,
so
then
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
are
not
on
the
agenda
hallway
meetings-
and
this
is
it's
quite
it
not
only
is
a
common,
but
it's
expected.
If
you
have
a
question
or
you
want
to
you,
you
asked
a
question
or
had
some
discussion
and
you
want
to
get
more
involved
in
it
or
things
this
got.
Someone
who's,
you
know
I,
just
partly
I
saw
you.
You
know
you
came
to
the
my
class
at
the
previous
session.
Whatever
can
I
talk
to
you
about
someone
so
hi,
my
name
is
rich.
B
Everyone
is
approachable.
There
are
aspects
of
community
that
can
sometimes
be
harder
to
overcome,
but
there's
that
so
hallway
meetings
we
just
chatting
a
hall.
There
are
breaks
between
every
session.
Every
other
break.
Has
you
know
coffee,
bagels,
pastries
or
something
like
that?
So
people
know
about
and
talk
there's
what's
called
a
bar
bar.
B
Then
there's
marathon
editing
sense
for
often
we're
developing
the
purpose.
That's
kind
of
mentioned
of
the
IETF
is
develop
high-quality
technical
documents,
the
other
people
and
use
and
implement
up
from,
and
so
often
you
know
better
than
de
Mayo
or
github
pull
request
for
making
vacuuming
changes.
You
just
get
three
or
four
people
to
sit
around
the
table
and
what's
called
work,
myth
or
even
just
address
fundamental
issues.
They'll
often
come
back
to
the
working
group
of
its
meeting
later
in
the
week
and
say:
okay.
B
Some
resolve
everything
there
is
an
IETF
app
available
for
both
Android
and
Apple.
It
is
your
friend,
it
will
carry
all
of
the
latest
schedule
changes.
You
can
highlight
things
that
you
care
about.
It
will
have
on
the
it
can
be
added
to
your
calendar,
I
believe
on
the
Apple,
and
it
can
make
your
own
custom
schedule.
The
agenda
online
and
they're
on
the
link
is
also
your
friend.
There
are
some
last-minute
changes
posted
when
you
register.
B
B
The
working
group
sessions-
this
is
the
main
part
of
the
week.
It
is
the
reason
why
the
week
is
scheduled.
A
working
group
is
the
basic
unit
of
activity
that
produces
most
rfcs.
There
are
research
and
individual
streams,
but
the
stuff
to
become
RFC
or
what
you
think
of
as
a
standard
is
generally
done
in
a
working
group.
That
work
happens
on
email
lists.
Each
working
group
has
an
email
list.
B
As
Karen
said,
there
are
about
a
hundred
or
I
said
there
are
about
130
working
groups,
80
or
so
of
them
are
meeting
on
this
upcoming
week.
And
that
means
is,
you
know,
hundreds
of
mailing
lists
working
group
closes.
The
mailing
list.
Stays
open
face
to
face
meetings
are
solved,
are
done
for
solving
key
issues,
so
the
quick
working
group,
for
example,
rather
than
presenting
or
discussing
any
possible
new
work,
they're
spending
all
of
their
time
addressing
open
issues
you
know
think
of
it
as
a
github
issue
or
github
Laura
Klock.
B
The
sessions
are
streamed
online
and
recordings
very
much
like
this.
Using
the
same
medical
facilities
and
our
friendly
medical
staff,
you'll
see,
as
you
can
see
in
this
picture,
there
are
you
know:
here's
a
remote
presenter,
because
everybody
in
the
room
they're
all
looking
at
the
tops.
These
are
looking
up.
That
happens.
The
picture
on
the
right
is
a
disc
on
the
right
is
text.
Some
of
these
presenting
some
work
and
the
screen
on
the
Left
shows
somebody
presenting
via
you
know,
remote
meet
echo.
Probably
so
the
sessions
are
streamed
recorded
and
available
afterward.
B
B
It
goes
back
a
long
time
in
the
computer
industry
and
it's
an
informal
gathering
not
as
structured
as
a
working
group
meeting
in
that
there's
while
there's
a
chair,
so
I'm,
gonna
sort
of
is
probably
an
agenda
and
some
discussion
they
want
to
get
through
on
they're,
not
trying
to
produce
units.
What
they're
trying
to
produce
is.
Perhaps
a
working
group
they'll
discuss
the
Charter.
What
the
group
is
intended
to
work
on
a
rough
timetable,
Oh
it'll
take
a
year
to
do
this
two
years
to
do
that
and
so
on.
B
It
generally
meets
only
once.
You'll
sometimes
hear
the
phrase
working
with
performing
or
non
working
group.
For
me
it
can
start
as
a
barback
which
is
not
scheduled,
then
there's
a
scheduled
bath
and
then
there's
a
next
thing
would
be
a
working
group
looking
at
figuring
out
how
to
stand
up
a
working
group
without
having
face-to-face
bath
meetings.
B
The
discussion
okay
next
slide,
please
the
our
ITF
sessions,
the
RTF
is
part
of
is
a
function
of
the
IAB,
the
internet,
our
activities
board
architecture
board
more
on
research,
as
I
mentioned
below
the
areas
things
like
privacy
and
human
rights
considerations,
there's
one
on
good
daya.
How
do
we
get
the
entire
world
linked
up
onto
the
internet?
Things
like
that.
There
are
more
focused,
short-term
research
things
like
photography,
algorithms.
B
How
do
you
do
verifiable
one,
for
example,
if
that
means
anything
to
you
great,
if
not
there's
plenty
of
other
research
groups,
all
of
the
art
they
need.
At
the
same
time,
they
follow
much
of
the
same
structure
but
being
a
working
group,
it's
a
search
groups
of
RG
instead
of
WG
the
RFC
listed.
There
is
a
useful
primer.
On
the
other
hand,
if
you
think
of
it
as
just
oh,
these
things
are
discussing
and
moon
actually
result
in
a
standard
with
bits
on
the
wire.
That's
probably
a
good
enough.
B
B
Sorry
my
screen
lessly
over
cross-fertilization,
so
we
have
a
lot
of
academics
talking
about
theoretical
issues
with
head-of-line
blocking
in
HTTP
or
how
I
can
fingerprint
but
hosted
on
what
hosts,
how
I
can
fingerprint
identify
a
host
based
on
its
DNS
traffic
or
analysis,
and
then
it
brings
academics
and
research
to
the
IETF
so
that
people
can
learn
about
the
implications
and
and
impacts
of
some
of
what
they're
doing
it
also
brings
academics
into
the
IOT
I.
Think
many
of
them
go
to.
B
You
might
see
the
name
Sharon
Goldberg
she
and
her
graduate
students
have
been
very
influential
in
cryptography,
DNS
security,
ntp
time,
the
time,
protocol,
security
and
so
on,
separate
registration.
You
can
you
know
anyone,
you
just
sign
up
and
that
will
probably
be
ongoing.
You
know
yearly
thing
co-located
with
the
July
IETF
next
page
there
are
ok.
So
these
are
three
kinds
of
meetings
that
also
happen,
not
working
group,
which
might
be
anywhere
from
10
to
50.
B
You
know
maybe
80
people
for
the
quick
or
something
like
or
the
first
acne
120,
but
these
are
area
wide
sessions,
so
the
area's
transport
routings
pyridine
so
on
they
almost
all
of
them,
have
a
meeting
or
two
where
they
will
review
what
their
working
groups
have
done
and
yeah
posted
my
notes
or
a
list
or
yes,
we're
not
being
told
tomorrow
that
happened
or
another
area.
Another
thing
that
happens
in
area
wide
sessions.
They
often
have
to
dispatch
where
someone
will
say
I
have
this
idea.
I
think
this.
B
You
know
this
applies
to
the
routing
area.
Where
should
I
go
and
then
a
group
of
people
just
back
up
to
the
appropriate
working
group,
very
useful
for
newcomers
to
the
IETF
to
attend
those
or
at
least
understand
that
there
and
anyone
can
go.
It's
not
just
you'll
find
just
security
people
at
the
security
group
and
you
don't
find
DNS
people
that
they,
the
operations
group
and
so
on
plenary.
B
In
word,
that
means
all
attend.
Okay,
so
these
are
the
the
border
has
become
more
or
less
strictly
defined,
depending
on
which
meeting
it
is
and
how
its
organized
there's.
Usually
a
technical
presentation,
so
we've
had
on
Dave
Clark
one
of
the
founding
architects
of
the
protocols
talk
about
tilting
in
field
appropriately
when
you're
defining
a
protocol.
B
I,
remember
somebody
else,
talking
about
Hannes,
I,
think
talking
about
trusted
computing
zones
inside
you
know
on
trips
or
Intel
trips,
then
there
is
the
administrative
part,
and
this
is
where
that
bit
soup
Karen
showed
before
they
get
up
and
they
swap
around
I
talk
about
well,
these
are
the
things
these
are
feels
we've
had.
This
is
what
our
attendance
is
like.
The
society
countries
are
coming
to
this
one.
This
is
what
our
budget
looks
like
for
the
next
six
months
and
so
on.
B
There's
often
announcements
as
to
future
where
future
IETF
meetings
will
be
located,
as
you
can
imagine
for
a
meeting
that
has
anywhere
between
eight
and
fifteen
hundred
people,
you
can't
just
sort
of
show
up
at
a
hotel
without
and
that
you
know,
unannounced.
So,
there's
a
lot
of
planning
and
announcements
for
that.
Next,
please.
B
The
hackathons
and
codes
friends,
so
this
one
when
I
give
the
when
we
give
the
tutorial
on
Sunday,
unfortunately
have
to
say
you
just
missed
it.
It
was
really
great,
but
since
this
is
before
the
meeting
on
Saturday
and
Sunday,
there's
hackathons
where
people
have
come
together
and
do
independent,
interoperable
implementation
testing,
so
testing
new
types
of
DNS
records,
TLS
1.3
went
through
a
number
of
these
things
where
you
know
major
importers,
open
SSL,
Facebook,
Mozilla,
Chrome
all
got
together
and
you
know
tried
to
make
their
clients
talk
to
the
servers
and
so
on
on.
B
So
that
happens,
Sunday
and
Saturday.
You
can
just
you
register
for
it.
You
get
a
free
t-shirt.
You
just
lunch
is
provided
you
just
sort
of
you
can
just
sort
of
show
up,
and
there
is
a
list
on
the
wiki
on
the
meeting
wiki
about
what
hackathon
projects
people
are
working
on.
It's
still
not
too
late
to
define,
you
know,
add
a
new,
but
you
probably
not
get
a
lot
of
attendance
code
sprint.
You
just
oops
jump
there.
B
Okay
thank
code.
Sprints
are
for
people
developing
the
IETF
tooling
on
that
includes
the
the
publishing
stuff
that
change
how
our
C's
are
generated,
how
drafts
are
tracked
and
so
on
the
website
data
tracker,
dot,
IETF
thought
org,
which
is
a
newcomer.
You
probably
will
not
care
about
too
much,
but
by
the
time
you
tell
me
your
next
meeting
start
to
participate
me
mailing
list.
You
will
become
intimately
familiar
with
parts
of
the
data
tracker.
B
Next
one
is
networking
in
social
events,
so
the
one
on
the
left
there
is
at
the
Singapore
national
aquarium
as
I
recall,
so
it's
a
giant
fish
tank.
You
step
a
picture,
would
look
just
this
giant.
Octopus
pressed
up
against
the
glass,
but
probably
a
little
too
intimidating
the
event.
There
is
probably
not
too
late
to
buy
social
tickets,
the
quality
of
them.
You
know
it
varies,
but
as
a
way
to
just
you
know,
get
a
free
dinner
and
drinks
and
meet
some
people
in
a
social
environment.
B
B
There's
still
more
so
we
have
side
meetings.
One
of
the
things
we're
experimenting
with
is
unstructured
meeting
time.
So
there's
a
time
slot
every
morning
where
nobody
is
where
there
aren't
any
were
upset
so
that
people
can
get
together
and
have
informal
side
discussions.
It's
an
ongoing
experiment
trying
to
find
out
the
right
place
in
which
to
do
it.
B
So
that's
the
link
there,
tutorials
or
Sunday
afternoon.
There's
this
one
there's
one
on
how
to
write
a
security
considerations
document
in
the
past
we've
had,
how
do
you
know
the
structure
and
format
of
rfcs
and
so
on,
tutorials,
so
those
tutorials,
a
deep
dive
is
usually
someone.
You
know
it
is
someone
deeply
entrenched
in
technology
for
their
job
and
so
last
meeting
we
had
a
deep
dive
on
the
architecture
of
modern
routers.
It's
not
just
a
simple
look
at
a
packet.
Send
it
out
kind
of
thing.
Hot
our
see
is
a
hot
topics.
B
People
get
10
minutes
to
talk
about
something,
and
then
the
idea
is
to
see
if
there's
any
interest,
acne
got,
which
is
the
let's
encrypt
certificate
protocol.
If
you
will
and
on
the
chair
we
got
do
people
would
come
and
present
at
acne,
and
one
of
them
is
moving
forward
as
a
standards
document.
Also
not
on
this
list
is
Pecha
Kucha,
which
is
a
lightweight
satirical
thing.
B
If
you
spin
on
the
ietf
attendees
list
a
little
notices
from
Erin
Fox
next,
please
so
talk
about
general
behavior
meeting,
a
tacit,
read
the
documents
before
coming
to
the
session.
You
don't
want
to
be
on
the
sessions
are
not
tutorials
of
the
documents
and
in
particular,
if
documents
has
in
gone
through
several
drafts.
A
draft
is
a
checkpoint
where
the
version
document
is
sort
of
uploaded
to
the
data
tracker,
and
then
people
can
fetch
it
and
read
it.
What
will
be
discussed
or
presented
in
the
room
is
the
changes
since
the
last
time.
B
So
in
order
to
do
that,
in
order
to
appreciate
that
you
should
know
what
happened,
what
was
in
the
last
time
right
and
then
they'll
be?
You
can
come
to
the
mic
and
questions
or
say
well,
if
you
consider
this
and
so
on,
behave
respectfully
in
tolerantly.
Atf
does
not
tolerate
harassment.
You
know
there's
a
slide
on
that
later
on.
You
know
where
computer
people
look
pretty
acceptable
of
people
on
you
know
I
was
gonna,
say
the
fringe,
but
who
knows
what
the
fringe
is?
B
B
For
you
know
12
16
hours,
but
it
goes
on
all
the
time,
don't
feel
you
have
to
attend
every
meeting
or
every
social
event,
social
next
page,
bringing
new
work
to
the
ITF.
So
if
you
have
an
idea
that
you
don't
see
covered
in
the
agenda
or
you
haven't
seen
a
working
first
on
and
you
haven't
seen
a
working
group
devoted
to
it,
here's
how
to
bring
a
new
work
find
some
collaborators.
So
this
could
be.
You
know
a
side
meeting
talking
to
people
saying.
B
B
This
is
you
know
your
chance
to
find
attractive
down
there,
obviously
very
busy.
There
has
to
be
an
area
director,
every
working
group
meeting,
so
their
schedules
are
pretty
booked,
but
someone
hanging
I'm
interested
in
discussing
this,
they
might
say,
follow
up
with
me
offline,
but
at
least
you'll
have
it
connect.
Then
you
in
a
face
the
next
step
area
directors
approve
it
is
you
propose
a
sorry.
You
propose
up
off
the
area,
directors
review
it
make
suggestions.
B
If
it's
once
it's
been
accepted,
you
hold
them
off
and
determine
a
consent,
will
determine
the
next
step.
We've
had
I
know
of
a
couple
of
boss
where
it
was
no
working
group
was
formed
because
we
couldn't
find
a
good
use
of
the
technology
or
we
didn't
feel
that
if
the
I
did
anything
here,
it
would
be
used
by
industry
and
then
they've
been
groups
where
it's
like.
Oh,
why
are
we
even
having
a
bot?
Just
let's
get
the
group
and
start
this,
and
you
know
rubber
stamp.
B
This
protocol
right,
you
know
just
put
our
imprimatur
on
this
protocol
right
away.
So
these
they
span
the
gamut
and
a
buff.
Is
they
bring
energy
and
in
ten
new
interest
in
potential
areas
to
the
to
work
we
had
one
bought.
That
was
sponsored
by
the
ITF
chair
at
the
time
and
that
didn't
go
anywhere.
So
there's
no,
no,
no,
shame
or
embarrassment
about
that
next,
please!
B
So
during
the
working
groups
patios
near
talks,
there
will
be
a
mic
in
everyone.
The
picture
before
showed
you
know
a
couple
of
screens
and
mic
depending
on
the
size
of
the
room
and
the
size
of
the
room
is
by
how
many
people
have
attended
previous
meetings.
So
we
collect
all
of
the
information,
collect
their
numbers
and
is
part
of
schedule
say.
Oh
that's,
last
two
times
you
have
fifty
people.
B
Why
are
you
asking
for
a
hundred
people
now
you
know
but
the
size
of
the
room
and
how
many
mics
there
are
the
way
discussion
works
is
there's
people
presenting
and
then
people
line
up
at
the
mics
to
say
something
it
might
be
asking
a
question.
They
might
be
saying,
have
you
you
know
a
pointed
question
would
be
you
know,
rambling
off-topic,
hopefully
not
too
much
of
that
you
speak
directly
into
the
mic.
It's
hard
often
you'll
hear
the
crowd
going
swallow
the
mics
Oh
Mikey.
B
Any
kind
of
technical
commenting
questions
are
welcome,
long,
detailed
discussions.
You
say
a
few
points,
then
you
can
move
right
around
back
so
line
if
you
have
more
to
say,
but
yes,
no,
it's
it's
not
for
it.
You're,
not
a
speaker.
I
might,
but
you
can,
you
know,
make
the
points
and
that
you
said
this
discussion
will
continue
as
people
go
back
and
forth
next
slide.
Please,
okay,
so
I
will
turn
it
back
over
to
Karen
to
talk
about
some
of
the
resources
and
things
that
are
available.
I
will
be
co-presenting.
B
B
A
So
the
third
part
of
the
excuse
me
third
part
of
the
tutorial
talks
a
little
bit
about
resources
and
information.
So
the
first
thing
we're
going
to
talk
about
is
the
people.
The
first
set
of
people
that
you
really
want
to
know
are
the
IETF
Secretariat.
This
is
the
team
of
individuals
who
basically
run
the
meeting,
so
they
do
all
of
the
planning.
They
run
the
registration
systems
in
advance.
A
They
man,
the
registration
desk.
They
handle
all
of
the
issues
associated
with
the
room
you'll
easily,
be
able
to
find
them
throughout
the
week
very
helpful,
very
important
to
know
the
next
set
are
two
teams
of
people
that
you
will.
They
generally
have
tables
set
up
in
the
registration
area.
The
first
thing
the
RFC
editor
staff,
so
the
RFC
editor
is
the
team
of
people
that
do
all
of
the
actual
publication
wants.
The
document
is
finished.
A
So
if
you
have
any
questions,
if
you
have
a
document
that
you're
already
working
on
that's
in
the
process
of
being
published-
and
you
know
you
can
get
help
with
it-
on-site
with
the
RSC
staff
Diana
does
all
of
the
assigned
internet
assigned
names
and
numbers,
and
so,
if
you
are
looking
for
an
I,
an
assignment
or
you
have
a
question
about
how
to
write
an
ionic
considerations
for
a
document.
Or
you
know,
you
just
want
to
understand
how
I
Anna
works
a
little
bit
better.
A
A
You
know
who
the
various
folks
are.
There
are
dots
on
the
badges
and
the
dots
indicate
roles
like
working
group
chairs
or
the
NomCom.
We
didn't
really
talk
much
about
the
NomCom
in
this
presentation,
because
it's
not
really
relevant
to
attending
your
first
meeting,
but
the
nominations
committee
or
the
NomCom
is
what
selects
all
of
the
leadership
of
the
ietf
and
they
will
be
wearing
orange
iesg.
Your
area
directors
will
be
have
yellow
dots.
A
Iab
has
red
dots,
IRS
G,
which
is
a
steering
group
for
the
IRT
F.
They
have
pink
dots.
The
RFC
series,
editor
has
a
teal
dot
and
the
ietf
LLC
have
currently
has
black
dots.
There
are
also
some
ribbons.
Some
of
the
ribbons
are,
are
you
know
like
official
kinds
of
ribbons
and
others
are
ribbons
that
are
self
selected,
so
they
generally
have
a
big
pile
of
ribbons
that
you
can
self-select.
A
The
other
thing
the
ayat
F
generally
has
is,
if
it's
a
big
board
of
buttons,
and
basically
it
started
out
as
a
way
for
people
to
identify
denta
phi
if
they
spoke
another
language.
In
that
way,
somebody
who
was
struggling
a
bit
who
spoke
that
language
could
approach
that
person
and
it
has.
It
has
really
exploded
because
it's
fascinating
how
many
different
languages,
members
of
the
IETF
speak.
A
So
if
you,
you
know,
look
for
them
for
the
big
big
banner
with
all
the
different
buttons
and
you
can
identify
which
languages
you
speak
if
you're
willing
to
reach
out
to
others
that
speak
that
language,
some
specific
resources
for
newcomers.
The
first
is
the
Tao
of
the
IETF.
It
has
been
updated
recently,
so
we
have
a
2019
Edition,
it's
available
on
the
website
at
this
link,
and
it
basically
is
the
novices
guide
to
the
IETF-
gives
you
a
lot
of
interesting
information.
A
Folklore
that
kind
of
thing
there
is
and
if
you've
registered
I
know
that
you've
received
links
to
this
an
email.
But
there
is
a
newcomers,
information
page
for
ITF
105,
and
that
gives
you
links
to
all
of
the
various
newcomers
activities
there
are.
You
know
this
tutorial
and
previous
tutorials
on
both
technical
process-oriented
and
newcomer
related,
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
old
tutorials
previously
that
we're
done
that
are
available
at
the
link
on
for
tutorials
some
more
meeting
resources.
There
is
a
meeting
wiki
the
there's.
A
A
number
of
things
that
are
available
on
the
meeting,
wiki
and
folks
can
contribute
to
it
as
they
need
to
one
of
the
most
important
things
you
know
we
alluded
earlier
to
these
the
side
meetings
and
this
sort
of
open
free
time.
This
is
where
the
IETF
is
experimenting
with
its
agenda
to
allow
for
more
support
for
side
meetings
and
those
kinds
of
things.
All
of
that
scheduling
is
done
on
ITF,
one
of
on
the
meeting
wiki.
B
A
There's
several
sections
in
the
wiki
that
will
help
you
with
that
those
kinds
of
things
there
is
a
first
time,
attendees
mailing
list
and
I
just
realized
the
thing
we
don't
have
on
here.
There
is
also
an
attendees
mailing
list
for
the
whole
meeting
and
you
can
opt
in
or
opt
out
of
that
mailing
list
at
the
point
at
which
you
register
and
then
you
can
always
go
and
add
yourself
back
in
later.
A
But
the
point
of
that
mailing
list
is,
you
know,
meeting
specific
information,
and
this
can
you
know,
range
from
anywhere
from
discussions
about.
You
know
where
the
best
local
coffee
shop
is
to.
You
know
how
to
control
the
alarm
clock
in
your
bedroom.
It's.
The
range
of
conversations
that
can
show
up
on
the
attendees
list
is
to
two
relevant
technical
topics
as
well,
but
it's
a
wide-ranging
list
associated
with
issues
associated
with
the
meaning
ITF
sisters.
A
We
talked
about
a
little
earlier,
IHF
sister,
the
that's
a
blog
post
about
the
sisters
and
then
from
there
you
can
get
information
on
how
to
join
the
mailing
list.
It
is
a
very
informal
group
of
women
they
get
together
to
sort
of
support
each
other,
and
you
know
talk
about
yeah
sister
related
things.
A
We
do
have
a
couple
of
sister
activities
that
are
at
the
ietf
there's
a
Monday
networking
breakfast,
which
is
very
informal,
like
you,
know,
coffee
and
pastries
and
sort
of
getting
to
know
each
other
and
then
later
in
the
week
we
have
a
our
traditional
event,
which
is
our
Thursday
lunch
and
both
of
those
are
open
to
to
folks
that
want
to
attend
that
there
are
a
number
of
other
mailing
lists.
This
is
that
potentially
associated
with
the
meeting
and
some
of
those
are
available
there
at
you
know
things
like
travel
companions.
A
A
Next,
having
said
all
of
that,
probably
the
single
most
important
link
that
you
all
you
need
to
know
about
is
the
data
tracker
all
of
the
documents
in
the
IETF
all
of
the
meeting
materials.
The
agenda
for
the
meeting,
the
Charter
all
of
the
assets
associated
with
the
IETF
are
available
via
the
data
tracker
and
I
put
a
link
in
earlier
about.
Oh,
you
know
where
this,
where
the
slides
would
be
later
and
I
pointed
to
the
materials
page
well,
the
materials
page
is
part
of
the
data
tracker.
A
So
that's
the
one
tool
I
mean
you
can
look
at
individual
working
groups
and
then
you
can
look
at
past
meetings
for
those
working
groups.
The
agenda
for
the
current
meaning
pretty
much
everything
that
you
need
would
be.
There,
there's
also
the
tools
page,
which
is
sort
of
the
experimental
piece
of
data
tracker.
So
a
lot
of
times.
Things
are
developed
on
tools
and
then
eventually
transition
somehow
into
the
data
tracker,
but
it's
a
different,
slightly
different
packaging
of
some
of
the
same
information
and
then
some
additional
tools
are
are
available
there
as
well.
A
Both
of
those
are
very
handy
to
have
remote
participation
I'm.
You
know
we
didn't
check
to
see
how
many
of
you
all
would
be
physically
on
site
versus
remote.
Obviously,
attendance
at
IETF
meetings
is
not
required.
You
can,
you
know
we
have
people
that
have
participated
actively
in
working
groups
for
years
that
have
never
been
to
a
face-to-face
meeting.
A
A
The
the
Meccan
you
know
the
through
Medeco,
you
can
schedule
presentations.
You
can
present
in
a
working
group
provided
that
you,
you
know,
do
all
the
advanced
stuff
that
you
need
to
do.
You
can
get
in
a
virtual
queue
and
ask
your
questions,
there's
a
number
of,
and
then
afterwards
all
of
the
recordings
from
all
of
the
meetings
are
put
up
on
YouTube.
There
is
currently
no
cost
to
participate
remotely.
You
are
asked
to
register
and
there's
instructions
for
that.
A
A
It's
generally
up
and
running
by
Friday
afternoon,
early
Saturday,
and
it's
taken
down
around
noon
on
Friday
of
the
meeting.
Depending
on
when
the
last
activities
run,
we
do
run
a
number
of
Wireless
SS
IDs
for
different
purposes.
We're
currently
discussing
you
know
how
we
should
actually
be
doing
this
going
forward.
A
There
is
an
IETF
legacy
network
and,
and
basically
it's
a
fully
open
network.
It's
our
way
to
transition
from
open
networks
to
encrypted
networks.
We
do
have
a
quiet
workspace,
the
space
formerly
known
as
the
turmoil
room.
It
doesn't
actually
have
any
terminals,
it
does
have
power
and
a
wired
Ethernet
connectivity.
A
A
There
is
a
ticketing
system
that,
if
you
have
any
problems
with
any
part
of
the
meeting,
actually
not
just
the
network,
you
can
use
the
ticketing
system.
So
if
you,
if
you're
having
issues
with
you,
know
whatever
and
the
Secretariat
and
the
NOC
team-
managed
that
there's
also
going
to
be
a
network
requirements
both
this
time,
if
you're
interested
in
what
the
technical
requirements
of
the
network
should
be
going
forward,
encourage
you
to
attend
that
we
also
use
jabber.
How
are
we
on
time?
Oh
wow,
four
minutes,
so
we
use
XMPP
for
chat
rooms.
A
Every
IETF
working
every
IETF
session
has
an
Associated
chat
room.
The
chat
room
is
used
to
help
facilitate
remote
participation,
and
you
know.
Sometimes
you
know
some
meetings.
That's
used
just
for
that
other
meetings.
It's
also
sort
of
a
secondary
conversation
point.
So
though
you
know
you
can
ask
questions
and
sort
of
have
a
second
parallel,
a
conversation
related
to
the
discussion
in
the
room
and.
A
A
Questions
or
concerns,
or
whatever
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
us.
We
are
definitely
interested
in
your
feedback.
We
have
a
survey.
The
survey
should
be
I,
hope
online
now
and
we
encourage
you
to
provide
any
feedback
there.
Also,
we
do
have
a
feedback
session
on
Thursday
morning
I'm
going
to
apologize
in
advance
because
I
realized
it's
scheduled
from
8
a.m.
to
9
a.m.
A
so
somehow
we
didn't
manage
to
slide
it
later
an
hour
when
everything
else
moved
later
an
hour
so
but
come
to
the
Thursday
morning,
feedback
session
and
we'll
give
you
coffee
and
breakfast,
and
you
can
up
tell
us
what
we
missed
so
are
there
any?
It's
not
yet.
Actually,
ok,
I
have
to
double-check
with
Alexa,
but
there
will
be
a
survey
very
shortly
at
that
link
and
any
other
final
questions.