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NEWCOMERS webinar session at IETF106
2019/11/07 0100
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/106/proceedings/
A
C
Name
is
rich
Saul's
I
work
at
Akamai,
Technologies
I've
been
involved
with
the
a2
and
the
newcomers
or
a
handful
of
years
now,
I
guess
will
say
yes,
so
Karen
and
I
will
be
presenting
this
evening
morning
afternoon.
Whichever
time
it
is
where
you
are
and
kind
of
next
slide.
Let's
start
so,
first
off
welcome
we're
glad
you're
here
to
get
a
heads
up
in
a
running
start
or
whatever
cliche
you
like
tease.
C
C
C
Next
key
button:
first
page:
okay,
great
sorry
about
that,
any
questions.
No!
So
the
first
of
two
slides
about
the
note.
Well,
this
describes
the
IETF
policies
of
a
number
of
areas
outside
of
the
technical
specifications,
so
it
talks
about
patent
requirements
ie.
C
If
you
know
any
patents
and
you
are
participating
in
the
discussion,
you
must
disclose
them.
We
don't
want
to
get
you
know
caught
by
submarine
patents.
You
agree,
you
understand
that
proceedings,
the
meetings
are
recorded,
videotapes
and
so
on
is
available
on
the
next
slide.
Please,
and
then
here
are
some
of
the
details
about
the
specific
policies
and
practices
that
we
follow.
The
ITF
is
known
for
a
publication
series
known
as
RFC's.
C
C
They
do
not
NRC
once
it's
published
is
frozen
so
that
if
we
change
and
revise
something
such
as
a
next
version
of
TLS
TLS
1.2
became
TLS
1.3,
that's
a
separate
RFC
HTTP
1.0
was
you
know,
26,
16
and
so
on.
However,
what
we've
done
is
on
layered.
On
top
of
that,
a
series
of
in
directions
right,
like
any
computer
science
problem.
So
there's
that's
the
BC
key
best
current
practices
series
and
that
will
always
point
to
the
specific
RFC
that
is
appropriate.
So
ECP
9
will
point
to
a
specific
RFC.
C
I,
don't
know
the
number
on.
That
is
how
the
standard
process
works,
how
the
working
groups
press,
then
the
last
ones
are
about
anti-harassment,
a
code
of
conduct
that
we
expect
on
mailing
lists
and
in
the
face-to-face
meetings,
copyright
considerations,
patents
and
so
on.
If
you
search
for
you
know,
IETF
BCP,
54,
you'll
get
a
one
of
the
search
results
will
show
it
point
to
the
code
of
conduct.
All
of
these
are
on
the
note,
well
link
that
you
see
there
at
the
top
of
the
slide
and
in
the
slides
and
in
the
note.
C
Well,
they
are
actually
hyperlinks
so
that
you
can
see
read
the
details
on
this
is
presented
before
every
working
group
meeting
at
the
meetings.
It's
also
present
it's
also
mentioned
or
referred
to
when
there
are
internal
meetings,
such
as
video
conferences,
phone
calls
or
an
interim
face-to-face
so
by
attending,
and
then
signing
the
the
blue
sheet
sheet
of
attendance.
You
agreed
to
comply
by
these
rules.
C
Next
slide,
please
so
this
week,
sorry,
two
weeks
there
are
a
number
of
newcomers
activities.
This
tutorial
will
be
representing
this
on
Sunday.
There
is
another
tutorial
which
I
knew
earlier
today,
but
now
I
forget
what
it
was
also
on:
Sunday
Sunday's,
also
the
opening
reception,
there's
free
hors,
d'oeuvres
and
urine
wine,
soft
drinks
water.
So
on
before
then
there
is
a
quick
connections
meeting
which
is
think
of
it.
As
speed-dating
there'll
be
a
number
senior
or
experienced
IETF
errs
they're
standing
around
different
tables.
C
The
newcomers
are
all
invited,
they
think
there's
a
sign-up
list
and
then
every
10
minutes,
someone
will
say
time
and
you
move
to
the
next
table.
So
that'll
give
you
you
know
chance
to
answer
questions
oh
I'm
interested
in
the
security
area.
I
talk
to
little
right.
Who
can
tell
me
about
how
DNS
works
and
you
know,
deployed
deployment
issues
in
DNS?
The
guides.
Mentoring
is
also
a
sign
up
where
you
have
someone
party
who's
available
throughout
the
whole
week
to
help
orient
you
and
point
out.
C
You
know
things
of
interest
or
help
make
connections
to
other
people
they
can
that
are
appropriate.
Those
are
based
by
you
know.
We
try
to
group
them
by
language
so
that
you
know
someone
speaking
French
is
not
stuck
with
someone
like
me,
who
could
only
speak
English
and
that
there's
a
sign-up
list
for
that
you've
probably
got
email
about
these
activities,
and
you
should
have
included
that
there
is
a
dinner
organized
Monday
night.
That's
run
by
the
Secretariat
talk
about
those
people
in
a
bit.
It's
nominal
fee,
25
bucks
and
it's
new
25
US
dollars.
C
It's
newcomers
only,
and
so
it's
a
chance
to
meet
some
peers
and
I'll,
say
Oh.
What
are
you
doing
this
weekend?
You
know
make
some
contact
with
people
who
are
also
in
a
newcomer
situation
Thursday
morning
during
the
open
meeting
time.
It's
a
feedback
session,
that's
where
you
can
come
and
tell
us
I'll,
be
there
accounts
caring
are
both
gonna
attempt
to
be
there.
What
you
liked
about
the
week,
what
you
didn't
like
what
worked?
Well,
how
you,
what
what
we
could
do
to
better
prepare
you
well
prepare
your
peers
for
the
next
meeting.
I'll.
C
C
C
If
this
is
one
of
your
first
five
meetings,
then
you
can
still
consider
yourself,
a
newcomer
if
you
want
to
if
we
did
such
a
great
job
and
you
hit
the
ground
running
and
now,
at
the
end
of
the
week,
you've
committed
to
read
three
internet
drafts
and
co-author
a
second
a
fourth
one.
You
know
you
don't
need
any
more
help,
but
we
try
to
be
very
welcoming.
We
try
to
really
encourage
people
and,
in
the
main,
the
middle
section.
C
Karen
will
talk
a
lot
about
strategies
how
to
make
the
most
of
the
meeting.
We
do
remote
participation
as
well
as
in-person
stuff.
This.
This
presentation
will
not
talk
about
the
history
of
the
IETF.
How
do
our
standard
things
like
that?
The
IETF
has
a
YouTube
channel,
where
you
can
all
of
the
previous
versions,
for
many
of
the
previous
versions
of
this
tutorial
probably
won't
find
too
many
different
speakers.
Unfortunately,
as
well
as
all
of
the
meeting
sessions,
as
well
as
all
the
meeting
sessions,
they
are
recorded
by
the
fine
folks
that
need
echo
here.
C
We
should
thank
Tamiya
for
staying
up
the
2:00
a.m.
over
in
Europe,
and
so,
if
you
have
a
conflict
and
you
find
that
there's
two
sessions,
you
want
to
attend
that
are
done
at
the
same
time.
You
can
attend
one
and
then
go
back
a
couple
days
later
and
watch
the
YouTube
video
of
that
same
session
of
the
other
session.
That
has
the
advantage
that
you
can.
You
know,
speed
it
up
when
I
do
you
know
one
and
a
half
times
or
skip
whole
sections?
C
C
So
the
mission
of
the
IETF
and
we
have
a
mission
statement-
we
want
to
make
the
internet
work
better
and
the
way
we
do
that
is,
we
are
engineers
for
the
most
part.
Is
you
have
some
product
managers
almost
no
sales,
people
I,
don't
think
we
want
to
make
the
internet
work
better
by
right
by
developing
high
quality,
relevant
technical
documents.
C
We've
influenced
the
way
people
design,
use
and
manage
the
Internet
relevant,
meaning
we're
not
going
to
discuss
how
the
browser
should
lay
out
a
file
choice,
combo
box.
You
know
that
would
be
if
anywhere,
that
might
be
in
w3c,
high-quality,
there's
a
process
for
how
they
are,
how
documents
are
developed
and
published
and
become
RFC's.
We
can
talk
about
that.
You
know
during
the
week
you'll
learn
during
the
week
or
see
us
one
of
us.
C
You
know,
after
after
Sunday's
tutorial
and
the
key
word
I
would
take
from
the
sentences
influence
the
way
people
design,
use
and
manage
the
Internet
one
of
the
phrases
you'll
hear
mention
sometimes,
is
something
though
well:
what?
If
people
don't
do
this?
Do
it
this
way?
And
the
answer
is
well
we're,
not
the
protocol
police.
We
have
no
authority
to
to
make
people
do
things.
We
can
influence
them.
We
can
explain
why
this
is
the
best
way,
but
if
they
choose
to
go
another
way,
there's
nothing.
We
can
do
to
stop
that.
C
What
we
get
is
we
get
leverage
from
the
fact
that
everyone
on
the
internet,
if
it's
a
public
standard,
is
you
know,
derived
from
the
rfcs,
and
so,
if
you
want
to
play
along
with
everyone
else,
then
you
just
have
no
choice
but
to
you
know,
participate
and
follow.
You
know
what
the
ITF
does.
We
are
not
like
the
Uniform
Commercial
Code,
you
entry-level
thing,
which
describes
how
international
commerce
should
work
in
with
you
know,
compliance
a
way
to
force
compliance
under
penalty
of
law
or
something
like
that
next
slide,
please.
C
So
what
is
the
ITF?
We
are
an
organization
that
we
develop
standards,
SDIO
standards,
development
organization,
self
selected
participants,
it's
all
on
into
individual
basis,
company
affiliation,
if
any
is
given
for
identification
purposes.
Only
so
that
you
can
help.
Remember
that,
then
at
Akamai
is
different
from
Ben
Ben
Campbell
works
but
yeah
it's
designed
to
identify,
and
it's
also
a
way
you
can
say.
Oh
hey
looks
like
you
got
a
real
job,
congratulations
and
they
still
come
for
the
idea.
There
is
no
formal
membership.
C
C
There
is
no
formal
voting
if
you
look
at
say
ISO,
which
does
voting
by
country
or
news
State
or
ANSI,
which
does
it
by
corporate
membership
or
w3c,
which
does
it
by
membership.
We
don't
have
any
of
that
kind
of
voting.
We
do
consensus
and
we
do
that
by
humming.
Humming
has
a
number
of
neat
properties.
You
can't
look
to
see
you
something,
so
you
can't
look
to
see
who
else's
hand
is
up
and
be
influenced
by
that
it's
hard
to
hum
really
really
loudly.
It's
also,
you
know
kind
of
hums
at
the
same
volume.
C
So
when
we
say
yes
or
no,
when
we
hum
appropriately,
you
can
sort
of
stand
almost
anywhere
in
the
room
and
get
a
feel
a
good.
You
know
rough
consensus
as
to
what
the
room
believes.
There
is
no
final
government
role.
There
used
to
be
obviously
in
the
domain
system
and
so
on,
and
that's
a
separate
organization
I
can
for
a
while.
The
DoD
helped
sponsor
the
IETF
stuff
and
provided
a
home
for
it,
but
the
US
government
plays
no
role
any
different
than
anybody
else.
We
do
have
government
people
involved.
C
We've
seen
people
from
the
river
standards
Institute
from
Georgia.
A
lot
of
you
know:
Asian
governments
or
banks.
You
know
and
go.
Oh
thanks,
then
people
the
u.s.
DoD
sends
people,
but
there
are
as
individuals
participate.
Our
goal
is
to
develop
a
standard
going
that,
as
mentioned
on
the
previous
page,
that
is
relevant
and
useful.
C
People
who
have
something
they
want
to
work
on,
propose
it.
It
gets
accepted
if
it
gets
accepted,
and
then
the
coalition
of
people
in
the
working
group
will
prepare
documents
and
it
will
flow
its
way
up
through
the
working
group
through
the
area
and
up
to
the
IETF
as
a
whole.
We're
pretty
unique,
we're
pretty
proud
of
that
and
I
guess.
The
next
slide.
C
Okay,
so
the
ITF
is
divided
into
at
the
countless
number.
Every
time
I
see
the
slide.
Seven
areas
they
tend
to
is
occasionally
slight
perturbation
applications
used
to
be
one
real-time
used
to
be
another
they
got
merged.
This
is
what
we
would
call
an
eye
chart
there's
a
lot.
You
know,
if
you
imagine
this
being
projected
on
a
screen
at
the
front
of
the
room.
It'd
be
lots,
a
really
teeny,
tiny
printing.
You
have
to
squint
to
read
it
I'm
not
going
to
go
through
them.
C
Security
is
more
of
a
horizontal
area.
In
that
these
days
everything
has
to
have
some
kind
of
security,
which
means
some
kind
of
cryptography,
encryption
or
authentication
involved,
and
then
the
last
one
is
the
self
referential
the
medic.
This
is
where
we
work
on
things
that
change
the
way
the
IETF
itself
works.
C
Well,
next
slide
consensus.
So
this
is
another
one
of
the
truisms
that
IETF
is
like
quotes.
Rather
we
reject
Kings
presidents
and
voting.
We
leave
a
rough
consensus
and
running
code,
and
the
key
point
is
that
last
phrase-
rough
consensus
and
running
code
over
the
past
few
years
when
you've
got
added
more
and
more
effort
and
more
participation
in
hackathons,
which
happened
in
the
weekend
before
the
meeting
Saturday
Sunday.
There's
a
wiki
page
which
talks
about
the
projects
people
want
to
bring.
C
Many
things
happen
there.
Why
bring
your
laptop
sit
down
with
a
group
of
people
in
the
same
area
and
start
packing
away
rough
consensus
means
we
listen
to
all
the
opinions.
We
don't
have
to
accommodate
everybody
and
it's
not
controlling
that's
different
from
say
other
standards,
organizations
where
you
know
when
you're
doing
voting.
C
If
you
want
to
get
everybody
to
vote
on
something
you
end
up
with
a
standards,
it's
got
well,
this
seems
kind
of
strange,
but
he
wanted
it
right
sort
of
like
the
US
tax
code.
They
wanted.
This
thing
done,
and
they
didn't
want
that
thing
yeah,
it's
a
lot
of
negotiation
here,
we're
trying
to
focus
solely
on
the
sole
on
technical
merits
and
again
the
focus
on
what
most
of
the
people
in
the
group
feel.
C
The
session
chair
is
responsible
for
building
or
checking
consensus
area
directors
will
often
step
in
on
that
the
meetings
almost
every
time.
There's
a
consensus
discussion.
The
chairs
will
then
say:
okay,
we'll
confirm
that
on
the
man
list
for
the
most
part,
the
mailing
lists
for
every
working
group
or
the
place
as
the
official
record
and
the
place
where
all
the
trail,
the
official
decisions
are
taken
into
account
and,
of
course,
there's
an
RFC
on
how
to
do
consensus
and
humming
one
thing
you'll
find
is
funniest.
People
will
just
start
out,
yeah
hey.
C
C
C
Obviously
there
you
know,
there's
some
a
lot
of
people
wear
t-shirts,
a
lot
of
people
wear
shorts
or
short
skirts
or
we're
long
skirts.
Dashikis.
There
are
a
couple
people
who
dress
in
three-piece
suits
all
week.
It's
whatever
comfortable
with
the
key
thing
is
technical
excellence
is
what
we
care
about.
We
don't
and
we
have
close
relationships.
So
the
combination,
those
first
two.
Actually
the
combination,
the
first
second
and
fourth
means
sometimes
they'll
get
some
heated
discussions.
You
know
I've
been
working
with
you
forever
and
this
just
it
doesn't
affect.
C
You
know
what
the
you
know.
That
decision
you
made
here
is
stupid.
We
don't
want
to
talk
like
that.
One
saying:
no!
That
decision
is
not
good
and
here's.
Why?
But
these
are
people
who
many
of
them
have
been
working
together
for
25
plus
years,
so
they
can
be
frank.
They
can
speak
in
shorthand,
don't
be
put
off
by
it.
Just
so
you
know,
listen
and
then,
if
you
have
something
technical
to
say,
just
please
by
all
means
speak
up
next
page,
the
alphabet
soup.
So
this
is
the
ecosystem
in
which
the
ITF
works.
C
The
ietf
is
that
blue
circle
on
the
right.
That
is
what
we
think
of
as
the
ITF
looks
like
cell
division,
each
area
and
I
mentioned
there.
Seven
of
them
working
groups
are
all
within
an
area
and
they
Pro.
That's
where
the
documents
get
published.
The
iesg
internet
Engineering
steering
group
is
the
technical
leadership
of
the
ITF
and
has
the
all
of
their
rfcs
or
would
be
RFC's
flow
through
the
isg
before
going
out
to
the
general
membership
mailing
list
for
word,
you
know,
review
or
final
comment
is
the
IRT
F.
C
Also
you
can
see
on
the
right.
On
the
left
hand,
side,
the
pink
square
is:
there's
the
IRS
G,
the
internet,
research
steering
group.
This
is
analogous
to
the
IETF,
but
whereas
the
ITF
is
working
on
standards
and
best
practices,
the
IRS
G
is
working
on
research
for
things
that
may
be
picked
up
by
other
groups
or
may
just
be
areas
of
interest.
Human
rights
and
internet
protocols
is
sort
of
general
interest.
Crypto
foreign
research
group
is
defined
is
looking
cryptographic,
algorithms
that
are
then
picked
up
and
used
by
other
things.
C
He
ll
sing
the
black
square
on
the
top.
First,
the
IAB,
the
red
square
bud,
has
general
oversight
of
those
other
areas,
and
the
LLC
is
the
legal
entity
that
runs
and
hosts
all
of
these
other
things
it
didn't
used
to
be
a
legal
entity.
We
used
to
be
unaffiliated
or
an
unorganized
organization,
on
part
of,
say
the
Internet
Society,
but
that
made
hard
if
the
IETF
wanted
to
sign
a
hotel
contract
for
1200
people.
For
a
week,
we
needed
a
legal
entity
to
do
that,
as
opposed
to
relying
on
the
I
sock.
C
C
A
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
what
happens
during
an
IETF
week,
there's
and
I'm
going
to
hit
these
briefly
and
then
I'll
go
into
a
little
bit
more
detail
in
the
subsequent
slides.
There
are
a
number
of
organized
events
that
are
on
the
agenda
during
the
week.
First,
the
biggest
and
sort
of
the
meet
of
the
meeting
are
all
of
the
various
working
group
sessions
as
a
significant
subset
of
the
active
working
groups
in
the
IETF
will
meet
during
IETF
week,
but
not
necessarily
all
of
them.
A
There's
also
birds
have
feathers
sessions
identified
on
the
agenda.
You
know
by
the
acronym
by
the
acronym
bof
and
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
what
those
are
rich
mentioned:
the
IRT
F
as
opposed
to
the
IETF.
There
will
also
be,
in
addition,
some
number
of
research
groups
meeting
and
those
are
identified
on
the
again
by
the
RG
acronym
on
the
agenda
list.
There
are
some
area
wide
sessions.
A
We
talked
about
the
IHF
having
various
areas,
the
seven
areas
and
each
some
of
those
areas
have
meetings
that
are
across
all
of
the
working
groups
for
the
whole
area.
There's
and
then
there's
I
H
F
wide
plenaries,
then
there's
the
hackathon
and
code
sprint
activities
and
the
weekend
prior.
There
are
various
sets
of
social
events
and
then
there's
also
tutorials.
Sometimes
there
are
deep
dives
and
sometimes
there's
various
lunch
sessions.
A
There's
the
hallway
meetings
barb
offs,
which
are
informal
gatherings
in
various
places,
sometimes
they'll
get
announced
on
a
mailing
list.
Sometimes
there
will
be
a
group
of
people
that,
with
coordinating
interests
that
get
together
editing
sessions
on
documents
also,
there
is
an
app
there
is
both
an
Android
and
a
an
Apple
iPhone
version
of
the
app.
It's
very
helpful,
for
you
know,
figuring
out
where
meanings
are
and
finding
where
it
has.
A
map
usually
has
a
map
of
venues.
A
You
can
look
at
where
your
meeting
is
in
the
context
of
that
sort
of
and
rich,
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
later
about
data
tracker,
but
you
know
that's
sort
of
your
one-stop
shop
for
everything
that
you
need
to
know
about.
What's
going
on
ITF
week
and
and
that's
available
there
so
anyway
specific
starting
with
there's
working
group
sessions.
So
if
you
recall
earlier,
the
iesg
has
areas
and
areas
has
working
groups.
A
A
Face-To-Face
meetings
are
tried
to
be
focused
on
solving
key
issues.
So
if
there's,
you
know
often
times
that
the
editor
of
the
document
or
the
author
of
a
document
will
get
up,
and
you
know
these
are
the
issues
that
have
been
identified
on
the
mailing
list
recently
that
that
that
merit
further
discussion
or
merit.
Real-Time
conversation
at
that
point
because
all
the
sessions
are
strained
and
recorded.
A
The
technology
that
you
will
use
to
do
that
is
is
meet
echo,
so
all
of
the
meet
echo
sessions
will
be
recorded
and
you
can
get
to
them
later,
and
this
is
the
bulk
of
the
work
in
the
in
the
in
the
IETF.
Now,
generally
speaking,
it's
not
going
to
be
tutorials
about
documents.
It's
going
to
be
resolving
issues
on
existing
documents
or
introducing
new
documents
that
the
working
group
may
choose
to
adopt.
A
Second
is
birds
of
a
feather
session.
A
little
bit
later
in
this
presentation,
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
bringing
new
work
to
the
IETF
birds
of
the
feathers
sessions
are
the
the
historically
the
the
term
comes
from
birds
of
a
feather
flock
together,
which
basically
means
a
group
of
people
interested
in
a
similar
topic.
It
often
precedes
the
formation
of
a
working
group.
A
So
it's
one
of
the
steps
to
getting
a
working
group
established
if
that,
if
it
is
a
working
group
forming
birds
of
a
feather
session,
it
will
include
discussion
of
a
proposed
working
group
Charter.
But
sometimes
it's
not
sometimes
it's.
It's
for
discussing
other
types
of
topics.
We
had
a
you
know
a
couple
examples:
we
had
a
birds
of
a
feather
session,
one
time
on
where
to
go
with
the
education
and
mentoring
activities
in
the
nhf,
and
we
had
another
one
about.
You
know:
network
requirements
for
the
meeting
Volf.
A
Next
thing
is
the
IRT
F
research
group
sessions.
These
are
officially
an
activity
of
the
internet
architecture
board.
They
are
more
research
topics
as
opposed
it
to
engineering
topics
they
could.
As
rich
mentioned.
It
could
be
something
like
that.
The
CFR
G,
which
is
the
crypto
one,
there's
one
on
global
access,
global
Internet
access
for
all
Gaia,
which
is
really
about
global
Internet
access.
A
There
was
one
on
deke,
delay-tolerant
networking,
there's
currently
one
on
privacy.
They
meet
during
IETF
meetings,
they're
open
to
IETF
attendees,
just
like
the
regular
IETF
working
group
meetings
are.
There
is
a
RFC
on
a
primer
for
for
IETF
participants.
If
you're
interested
in
the
research
angle
of
it
area
wide
sessions,
plenaries
and
invited
talks,
so
often
the
areas
will
have
meetings
that
are
across
the
whole
area.
A
A
good
example
of
that
is
the
security
area
advisory
group,
which
meets
usually
on
Thursday
after
lunch,
and
this
is
a
session
that,
where
you
might
get
a
quick
snapshot
of
all
of
the
working
groups
that
are
doing
that
are
in
the
security
area
or
that
are
outside
of
the
security
area
that
are
doing
security,
work
and
then
presentations
of
material.
That
is
interest
of
interest
to
the
whole
area
or
discussions
of
topics
that
the
security
community
in
general
at
the
IETF
need
to
have.
A
A
Recently
we've
had
one
on
privacy,
for
example,
we've
had
one
previously
on
global
Internet
access,
I
think,
one
time
we
had
one
on
automotive,
IOT
types
of
topics,
I,
don't
believe
there
is
a
technical
plenary
planned
for
this
upcoming
IETF,
but
often
the
two
plenaries
are
held
together.
The
second
type
of
plenary
is
the
administrative
plenary
and
that's
the
one
that
basically
goes
is
the
report
out
to
the
community
about
all
of
the
administrative
aspects
of
the
IETF
and
then
discussion
about
general
policies
and
administration
of
the
IETF
at
that
plenary.
A
There's
also
a
question-and-answer
session,
what
they
call
an
open
mic
and
you
see
the
picture
on
the
lower
right.
It
says:
iesg
open
mic,
it's
an
opportunity
for
the
community,
the
IETF
community,
to
ask
questions
of
the
of
the
three
basic
bodies
of
leadership,
which
is
the
administrator
for
the
LLC,
the
IAB
and
then
the
iesg.
A
So
those
are
the
plenaries.
Also
there's.
If
there's
a
host,
there
might
be
an
invited
lunch
talk,
it's
a
brown-bag
lunch,
so
you
have
to
bring
your
own
lunch,
but
she
usually
Thursday
at
lunchtime
is
the
is
the
invited
speaker,
hackathons
and
code.
Sprints
hackathons,
as
rich
mentioned
earlier,
is
something
we
stir
a
few
years
ago
and
these
basically
anybody
is
open
to
bring
a
project.
Anybody
who
doesn't
have
a
project,
as
is
welcome
to
come
and
participate,
there's
no
additional
cost.
A
It
might
be
the
working
group,
it
might
be
initial
implementations
or
interoperability
analysis
of
existing
work
in
working
groups.
A
number
of
working
groups
now
are
using
the
hackathon
to
help
progress
their
specifications,
and
then
it
also
might
be
tools
around
the
you
know.
I
know
that
there
was
a
hackathon
project
recently
on
improving
the
Android
app
for
the
IETF
meeting.
A
A
You
know
an
evening
out
with
seven
to
nine
hundred
of
your
colleagues
there's
also
a
networking
there.
There
is
a
organization,
it's
not
really
an
organization,
it's
more
like
a
mailing
list
and
a
list
collective
of
folks
called
the
sisters.
Sisters
is
a
is
basically
just
a
way
for
the
the
women
of
the
IETF
to
meet
each
other.
We're
focused
on
on
helping
women
connect
with
each
other
and
be
more
effective
in
the
ITF,
particularly
interested
in
in
supporting
newcomers.
A
In
whatever
way
we
can
on
the
current
agenda
for
this
ITF,
there
is
a
sister's
lunch
on
Thursday
and
we've
also
added
a
breakfast
networking
event
earlier
in
the
week.
I
believe
it's
on
Monday
morning,
there's
a
link
later
on
to
join
the
sisters
mailing
list.
If
you
want
more
information
about
that
and
then
there's
side
meetings-
and
this
is
open
time-
it's
it's
basically,
it's
an
ongoing
agenda
experiment
to
figure
out
how
to
make
IETF
meetings
more
productive
and
get
make
better
use
of
our
time.
A
Those
meetings
are
not
going
to
show
up
on
the
main
agenda.
They're
gonna
be
in
this
wiki,
and
so
you
you
can
go
in
there
and
see
what
meetings
anybody
can
propose
a
meeting
and
sign
up
for
space.
Obviously
there's
their
space
limitations.
Nine
of
the
last
two
meetings
where
they
did
this.
The
side
meetings
filled
up
the
first
time
they
did
this.
It
was
in
like
an
afternoon
like
a
Wednesday
afternoon,
but
they
changed
it
and
so
the
last
time
and
this
time
as
well,
it's
it's
in
the
mornings
before
the
session
starts.
A
A
This
time
there's
the
newcomers
over
here,
which
is
this
tutorial,
and
then
there's
also
a
tutorial
on
service
discovery
and
then
the
last
couple
idf's
we've
had
an
experiment
on
deep
dives
which
has
taken
a
specific
technical
topic
and
delving
into
it
a
little
bit
more
deeply.
This
time,
it's
not
actually
a
technical
topic
and
it's
not
actually
a
deep
dive,
but
that
timeslot
on
Tuesday
morning
is
being
used
for
the
evolution
of
the
RFC
series.
Editor,
module
and
I
specific
I
mentioned
lightning
talks
earlier.
A
If
you
attend
other
conferences,
you
know
the
concept
of
a
lightning
talk
is
usually
like
five
minutes
or
less.
That
basically
gets
you
a
little
bit
of
exposure.
Here's
something
I'm
interested
in
here's,
an
idea
that
I
have
and
if
you're
interested
in
working
with
me
further
discussing
this
further
here's
how
you
contact
me,
and
so
it
is
a
good
way
to
see
what
other
people
are
thinking
about.
It's
also
a
good
way
if
you
are
interested
in
trying
to
find
the
right
people
at
the
IETF,
and
you
have
some
ideas
and
you
can.
A
A
So
general
meeting
etiquette.
Obviously
you
can't
follow
everything,
but
it's
most
people
come
to
the
IETF
interested
in
one
or
two
of
the
working
groups.
So
you
want
to
join
the
mailing
list.
You
want
to
read
the
mailing
list
and
then
you
want
to
read
the
documents
of
interest
before
the
working
group
sessions
and
that'll
mean
that
any
questions
that
you
ask
would
be
informed
by
that
and
we
want
you
to
behave
respectfully
and
tolerantly
towards
all
participants.
A
Ietf
is
a
global
organization.
People
come
from
a
lot
of
different
backgrounds
and
and
cultures,
and
you
know
I
think
the
what
the
Oasis
the
Jon
Postel
quote
about.
You
know
being
generous
and
being
careful
in
what
you
you
know
generous
and
what
you
receive
and
careful
what
you
send
I
just
got
it
wrong,
but
I
can't
think
of
it
right
now.
But
basically,
you
know
be
respectful,
talk
and
listen
to
people.
A
You
have
your
idea
or
the
thing
that
you
are
interested
in
approaching.
So
the
first
thing
you
really
need
to
do
is
to
sort
of
expand
your
collaborators
outside
of
your
core
group.
So
you
want
to
find
some
collaborators
that
have
a
similar
interest
and
discuss
the
idea
with
them.
Then
you
want
to
write
some
initial
drafts,
maybe
maybe
have
some
barb
offs,
and
this
is
all
about
developing
sort
of
a
critical
mass
of
people.
That
think
this
is
a
good
idea
and
the
time
is
right
to
do
it.
A
If
you,
you
know,
if
you
come
along,
you
know,
for
example,
if
you
come
along
and
something
is
really
far
down
the
pike
then
coming
into
the
working
group
and
saying
well,
I
think
this
is
a
really
bad
idea.
We
should
start
over
from
scratch.
It's
probably
not
going
to
be
well-received,
but
if
you
have,
you
know
a
new
idea,
that's
not
really
currently
covered,
then
that
that
might
be
very
well
received.
So
once
you
have,
you
know
a
solid
idea,
you
have
a
little
bit
of
documentation,
you're,
able
to
clearly
articulate
your
idea.
A
Then
you
want
to
talk
to
the
area
directors
in
the
relevant
area.
They
might
send
you
to
something
called
dispatch.
Some
work,
some
areas
now
have
set
up
a
process
or
a
working
group
called
the
dispatch
working
group,
which
is
a
way
to
quickly
decide.
You
know
if
somebody
brings
in
a
draft.
Does
this
draft
you
know?
Is
it
something
that
needs
a
new
working
group?
Is
it
something
it
could
be
covered
by
an
existing
working
group?
A
Once
you
get
to
that
point,
then
proposing
you
know,
propose
a
charter,
you
need
the
drafts,
you
need
a
charter,
you
can
need
an
agenda
for
a
boss
and
then
execute
on
the
boss
and
then,
depending
on
the
outcome
of
the
boss,
would
depend
on
what
the
next
steps
would
be.
There
is
a
tutorial
that
was
recently
done
on
bringing
new
work
to
the
IETF
and
the
slides
in
the
video
ranker
right
there
I'd
strongly
encourage
you
to
take
a
look
at
that
and
ietf
session
etiquette
speak
speak
directly
into
the
microphone.
A
All
of
these
meetings
are,
you
know,
have
remote
participants
and
they
are
recorded,
and
so
speaking
into
the
microphone
is
very
important.
So
being
people
that
stand
up
and
aren't
in
the
microphone,
you
know
anybody
who's
remote.
It's
not
going
to
be
able
to
hear
them
say
your
name.
Every
time
you
speak
at
the
microphone
generally
goes
microphone
say
you
know
I'm
Karen
and
Karen
O'donoghue
and
go
from
there.
There
will
be
blue
sheets,
and
this
is
a
record
of
who
is
in
the
room.
A
Remote
participants
also
get
recorded
when
you
signed
on
for
this
meeting,
you
provided
your
name.
This
is
important
for
a
number
of
reasons,
and
the
blue
sheets
are
scanned
and
become
part
of
the
permanent
record
of
the
meeting
technical
comments
and
questions
are
welcome.
Obviously,
you
know
time
is
of
the
essence.
Then.
So
short,
quite
you
know,
concise
questions,
especially
questions
that
you
know.
If
you
have
a
question
more
than
likely
somebody
else
in
the
room
has
the
question
as
well,
but
not
a
question
like
tell
me
how
this
works
again.
A
You
know
a
question
along
the
lines
of
you
know:
I
see
that
you've
decided
to
do
this
this
way.
Did
you
consider
this
other
way?
That
would
be
a
way
there
is
a
jabber
channel
to
discuss,
meeting
rel,
relevant
topics
that
you
could
use
to
ask
questions
as
well,
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
jabber
later
on.
C
Sorry
I
was
yes,
okay,
closing
in
on
the
last
third
here,
okay,
so
the
key
people
are
the
Secretariat
mentioned
them
before
and
we've
mixed
them
a
couple
times.
This
is
a
professional
organization
that
is
employed
by
the
IETF
you'll
recognize
them
by
throughout
the
week,
they'll
all
be
wearing
blue
polo
shirts.
They
know
if
you
have
a
question
they're,
possibly
the
first
people
non-technical
question
as
in
where
can
I
find
this
room,
or
you
know
that
Grand
Ballroom
is
way
too
hot
everybody's
sweating
and
taking
off
their
shirts
Secretariat?
C
The
RC
editor
Ana
staff.
These
people
will
have
tables
at
this
in
the
same
room.
That
registration
is
so
when
you
know
when
you
first
arrive
and
go
to
pick
up
your
badge
and
your
t-shirt
and
your
whether
we're
tickets
and
so
on,
they'll
have
tables
there
and
they
will
be
there
all
week.
The
RFC
editor
is
a
group
of
our
staff
paid
staff
and
volunteers
who
turn
the
drafts
into
published
documents.
C
C
Ayana
is
the
internet
assigned
numbers
Authority.
These
are
the
people
who
maintain
the
registries,
which
say,
for
example,
HTTP
is
TCP.
Port
80
DNS
is
UDP
port
53
and
then
also
in
within
things
such
as
here
is
a
specification
of
the
extension
for
TLS.
They
just
do
all
of
the
secretarial
work
for
doing
that
to
make
sure
that
people
don't
trump
on
each
other
and
have
conflicts
generally.
There's
experts
picked
from
the
IETF
assigned
by
the
working
group,
but
these
guys
keep
the
that
registry
up
and
available
also
useful
tip.
C
Both
tables
always
have
candy,
often
local
candy
the
whole
week.
So,
if
you
need
a
quick
sugar
fix,
stop
by
and
say,
hi
next
page
the
ITF
executive
director
J
dally
we
just
as
I
mentioned
we
had
at
the
beginning.
We
had
recently
created
the
IETF
corporation.
We
had
an
interim
executive
director
J,
who
sort
of
a
professional
executive
director
not
really
familiar
with
what
the
ITF
data
of
what
its
concepts
were.
J
comes
from
ICANN
DNS
world,
so
he
understands
internet
protocols
and
the
importance
of
that
he's.
C
If
you
go
through
the
note
well
and
click
on
some
of
the
links,
the
anti
harassment
policy,
we
have
a
zero-tolerance
for
harassment,
you
see
somebody
being
harassed
or
you
see
somebody
doing
it
or
you
are
the
target
of
things
reach
out
to
the
Ombuds
team
and
one
of
the
people
there
here's
their
pictures.
If
you
go
to
the
you
can
just
an
email
list,
you
can
speak
to
be
part
of
the
Secretariat
and
find
out
where
these
people
are
at
any
given
point.
C
These
are
long
time
experienced,
ITF
errs
who
will
make
sure
the
appropriate
action
is
taken.
I
should
have
mentioned
the
beginning.
By
the
way
my
name
is
Rick
Saul's,
my
pronouns.
Are
he
kicks
right?
Oh
part
of
the
other
anti
harassment
stuff
next
slide,
please
baddies
and
dots
and
ribbons.
Oh
my.
If
you
look
in
the
upper
right
corner,
this
is
what
a
badge
will
look
like.
C
There's
your
name
underneath
and
smaller
print.
Your
affiliation,
if
you
gave
one
on
top
of
your
name,
are
colored
dots
that
represent
various
parties
in
interest
of
which
you
are
a
member.
The
most
important
ones
are
probably
blue
for
working
group
chair
and
then
it's
not
labeled
here,
but
the
smiley
face,
which
means
I
am
available
to
answer.
Questions
feel
free
to
ask
me
something.
Many
people
have
the
smiley
face,
it's
a
checkbox
and
today,
when
you
register.
C
So
if
you
see
somebody,
if
you
have
a
question
about
something,
you
see
somebody
with
that
they
I
I.
You
telling
me
how
to
do
so,
and
so
tell
me
where
I
could
find
this.
The
ribbons
attached
underneath
there's
a
few
that
are
still
good,
still
useful.
The
host
people
who
pay
do
not
thousands
of
dollars
to
host
the
meeting
pick
up
some
of
the
expenses,
the
Ombuds
team
you'll
see
with
bright,
green
and
then
the
others
are.
You
know
the
new
attendees
are
useful.
C
It
was
funny
the
first
time
I
saw
it
and
now
I've
seen
it
four
times,
so
the
ribbons
are
less
useful,
except
if
you're
looking
for
a
particular
thing
and
the
colored
dots
at
the
top
can
be
useful
too
next
slide,
please
new
comer
resources,
the
Dow,
the
ITF,
is
sort
of
the
novices
guy.
It's
sort
of
like
you
know
deliberately.
Taking
from
that,
you
know
Buddha
Buddhism.
C
It
is
a
reasonably
short
document,
handful
of
pages
that
describes
some
of
the
history
and
how
things
are
done
within
there.
It's
informal.
It
was
just
recently
revised
by
somebody
who
had
been
involved
in
the
privacy
area
and
how
and
politics
of
protocols
they're
the
newcomers
page,
you
one-stop
shopping
for
all
things
about
the
ITF.
The
link
is
correct.
The
title
obviously
is
off
by
one
happens,
the
tutorials
page
will
have
copies
of
the
slides,
including
this
one.
C
This
set
after
the
meeting
it
will
have
links
to
the
videotapes
of
the
slides
and
it
will
have
the
names
of
the
people
of
Cali
next
page
there's
a
meeting
wiki,
often
used
for
cordon
transportation
or
asking
questions
about
the
local
environment,
for
example.
I
am
a
Reno
there'll,
be
a
sign-up
sheet,
a
sign-up
area,
B
I'm
arriving.
You
know
at
10:00
p.m.
Friday
night,
who
else
wants
to
share
a
cab
ride
to
the
hotel
or
I'm
leaving
6
a.m.
Friday
morning?
Who
wants
this?
C
C
Together
for
lunch-
and
you
know
some
people
the
other
day-
let's
get
together
sisters-
caramel
is
socially
oriented
group.
For
you
know,
people
who
present
those
women-
you
know
there's
a
bunch
of
other
mailing
lists,
there's
a
social
list
as
travel
companions.
We
have
a
flight
weight
program
for
spouses
or
significant
others
who
are
coming
along
some
self,
organizing,
sightseeing
trips
and
things
like
that.
There
is
a
meeting
IETF
106,
all
four.
C
C
Two
websites
count
are
important
is
that,
as
Karen
mentioned,
data
tracker
got
IETF
Thorg
can
also
be
repeated.
Dt
data
I
eat
after
or
look
on
the
left
sample
page
on
the
right.
It
has
web
pages
for
every
single
working
group
within
every
single
group.
There
is
a
list
of
what
it's
about
pointers
to
the
mailing
lists
and
then
the
big
thing
is
a
list
of
documents
and
their
status.
C
C
C
Remote
participation,
we
you
don't
have
to
attend
Faced,
you
don't
have
to
attend.
Certainly
the
novella
meetings,
which
are
typically
in
Asia,
tend
to
be
more
inconvenient
for
large
portions
of
the
attendees
I'm.
You
can
attend
remotely.
Every
working
group
will
have
an
online
video
conference
set
up
like
this
run
by
me.
Taka,
our
organizer
here
is
to
buy
it
the
third
one
on
the
right
from
the
left.
C
We
support
remote
attendants.
We
have
jabber
as
Karen
mentioned.
Not
the
next
slide,
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that,
and
the
media
Co
is
just
a
browser
based
video
conferencing,
communication,
chatroom
and
so
on.
Next
slide,
please,
the
network
hit
the
ITF
is
something
else.
We
run
our
own
network.
We
make
arrangements
with
the
local
telecom
company
we
bring
in
you,
know
all
sorts
of
least
temporary
leased
lines.
We
run
it
through
out
the
whole
IETF
hotel,
usually
at
this
time
so
tell
in
the
overflow.
C
There
are
there's
a
whole
bunch
of
network
IDs
that
are
available,
ITF
ITF
64.
If
you
do
ipv6
all
of
the
secure
networks
or
user
IETF
password
IETF.
The
point
is
not
for
authenticate,
but
encryption.
There's
a
helpdesk
in
the
registration
area.
There's
a
quiet
room.
We
used
to
call
the
terminal
room,
it
no
longer
has
terminals,
but
it's
got
power,
ethernet
activity
and
there's
a
way
to
enter
service
tickets.
If
you
have
problems
with
the
network
or
anything
else,
speeding
up
goes
around
the
time.
Next
gabber
XMPP
is
a
messaging
protocol.
C
Instant
messaging
chat
get
a
client,
get
an
account,
there's
a
couple
places
which
to
do
it.
For
basically,
every
working
group
is
kind
of
mentioned.
The
DNS
op
working
group
will
be
DNS
op
at
jeopardy,
template
or
it
gets
a
chatroom.
It's
where
remote
people
can
people
participating
remotely
can
ask
questions.
It's
where
they
describe
locally
will
say
who's
speaking
and
what
page?
It
is.
That's
why
it's
important
to
state
your
name.
Every
time
you
come
to
the
mic
next
slide,
so
I
think
this
is
final.
One
enjoy
yourself
all
the
smiling
happy
faces
here.
C
The
picture
of
fireworks
was
one
of
the
prog
meetings
where
we
actually,
at
the
end
of
the
social
event
they
had
fireworks.
I
was
pretty
really
impressive.
It's
a
fun
time.
It's
an
exhausting
time.
You
relieve,
leave
your
head
fun
and
hopefully
lots
of
scribbles
and
notes
and
follow-up
things
to
do
to
meet
with
and
talk
with
new
colleagues.
Look
forward
to
meeting
many
of
you
and
I
think
we're
just
about
out
so
I'm
not
repaired
with
questions.
C
If
you,
if
there's
things,
we
missed
either,
as
you
figure
it
out
during
the
week,
contact
us
an
edgy
team
in
today's
team,
Thursday
mornings,
a
feedback
session
and
really
would
like
a
survey
for
this
is
a
survey
specifically
for
the
newcomers.
We'll
have
a
general.
The
Secretariat
will
run
a
general
survey
after
the
meeting
for
all
attendees
to
talk
about
things
like
the
open
time.
What
was
it
like?
How
many
conflicts
did
you
notice
in
terms
of
wounding
one
other
would
tend
to
different
meetings
at
the
same
time,
and
so
on.
A
All
right,
I
think
that
brings
us
to
the
end.
I,
don't
know.
If
there's
any
questions,
I've
been
monitoring
the
chat
and
I
haven't
seen
any
questions
show
up.
I
did
post
in
the
chat.
This
look
the
link
to
the
slides
these
slides
are
available
online
at
that
link.
So
with
that
one
typo
corrected
I
just
write.