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From YouTube: IETF108 NEWCOMERS WEBINAR 20200707 1400
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NEWCOMERS webinar session at IETF108
2020/07/07 1400
A
C
A
Yeah,
let
me
mike
should
be
just
on
the
headphones
it
shouldn't
be
coming
through.
Let
me
ask
him
to
turn
it.
A
A
A
Okay,
that
sounds
like
my
cue
all
right.
Let's
get
started,
hi
hello,
everyone
good
morning,
good
afternoon,
good
evening,
good
next
day,
good
previous
day,
wherever
you
are
on
the
time
zone.
This
is
the
first
of
two
iatf
newcomers
intros
to
what
the
ietf
meetings
will
be
like.
Obviously,
it's
different
than
we've
usually
done
as
you'll
hear.
A
D
Okay,
so
I'm
going
to
start
us
off
as
rich
mentioned,
I'm
karen,
who
I've
been
a
long
time
participant
in
the
ietf
process,
been
a
working
group
chair.
I've
been
involved
in
the
education
activities
and
also
part
of
the
network
team.
D
So,
for
starters,
this
is
the
welcome
to
the
ietf.
This
is
an
ietf
overcomers
newcomers
overview
next
slide,
please
the
first
thing
about
the
ietf
and
is-
and
you
may
have
already
encountered
it
in
your
registration
process-
is
the
ietf
notewell
these.
This
is
the
set
of
rules
and
processes
and
rules
that
we
follow
by
participating
in
any
ietf
activity,
and
that
includes
posting
on
a
mailing
list
or
attending
any
of
the
meetings
you
have.
You
are
agreeing
to
abide
by
these
rules
next
slide.
D
This
is
also
part
of
the
notewell
one's
about
the
process.
There's
the
anti-harassment
procedures.
We
do
have
an
ombuds
team
that
we'll
talk
about
a
little
bit
later,
there's
a
code
of
conduct
also
ipr
and
patent
issues.
D
So
all
of
these
are
covered
as
part
of
the
notewell,
and
you
should
familiarize
yourself
with
those
next
slide.
D
So,
ordinarily,
we
would
have
a
face-to-face
meeting,
and
this
slide
would
talk
about
all
of
the
various
activities
that
are
specifically
targeted
newcomers
for
an
upcoming
ietf.
So
this
is
a
virtual
meeting.
It
has
some
new
features
and
slightly
different
ways
of
doing
things,
but
we
are
still
trying
to
have
the
same
set
of
newcomer
type
of
activities
throughout
the
week.
So
for
starters,
we
are
doing
the
webinars
that
we
will
be
doing
two
of
those
here
at
the
first
one.
D
There
will
be
a
second
one,
the
slides
and
the
video
from
that
will
be
posted
as
part
of
the
materials
going
forward.
The
next
thing
that
we're
going
to
have
is
what
we're
calling
a
virtual,
quick
connections.
Ordinarily,
at
a
face-to-face
meeting.
We
have
this
session,
which,
which
is
you
know,
really
short.
You
know
you
rotate
around
the
room.
You
have
short
conversations
with
the
number
of
people
and
that
gives
a
chance
for
newcomers
to
meet
some
familiar
faces
throughout
the
week.
Ask
any
really
quick
questions.
D
We're
going
to
do
a
a
virtual
version
of
that
on
thursday
july
23rd
at
1500,
utc
and
we'll
be
using
a
pla
platform
called
gather.town
and
there'll
be
some
additional
information
coming
out
about
that.
But
this
will
be
a
quick
way
for
you
to
get
some
faces
and
get
some
to
replace
a
little
bit
of
the
social
activities
that
would
have
occurred
on
a
face-to-face
meeting.
D
Also,
there
are
going
to
be
a
couple
we
have
two
and
we
haven't
scheduled
them
yet
so
you'll
need
to
follow.
There'll
be
a
new
additional
newcomers,
email
coming
out,
giving
you
more
details
about
this,
but
we'll
have
a
couple
of
virtual
coffee
breaks
during
the
week
and
we'll
have
some
sort
of
a
room
or
a
space
set
up
in
our
virtual
platform
that
newcomers
can
drop
by
and
ask
questions
or
just
say
hello
or
meet
each
other
and
the
actual
the
specific
times
of
those
are
have
also
not
been
announced.
Yet.
D
So
you
need
to
look
for
that
newcomer
to
follow
on
newcomers,
email
and
finally,
we
are
running
our
ietf
guides
program,
which
is
basically
a
mentoring
program.
You
can
go
ahead
and
sign
up
now.
The
sign
ups
are
available
and
the
matches
are
ongoing
and
it'll,
be
it's
a
one
one
on
one
relationship
with
an
experienced,
ietf
or,
and
then
you
schedule
amongst
yourselves
what
what?
D
What
meeting
you
know
any
questions
you
have
and-
and
you
arrange
all
of
that
with
your
with
your
guide.
So
those
are
the
newcomer
activities
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
them
as
we
go
through
this
brief.
But
I
wanted
to
highlight
them
at
this
point
and
also,
as
a
newcomer,
you
will
be
on
you're
on
a
newcomers,
mailing
list
and
you'll
get
this
information
there
as
well.
D
It
does
not
include
things
like
history
of
the
ietf
or
how
to
write
a
standard
or
any
a
number
of
things
like
that.
There
is
some
additional
tutorial
information
on
the
ietf
website
and
there
is
a
youtube
channel
that
has
a
whole
playlist
that
has
a
number
of
history
briefings
on
that.
A
little
bit
of
that
information
has
changed,
but
most
of
it
is
still
highly
relevant
next
slide
and
at
this
point
next
slide
here
we
go
at
this
point.
D
B
Yeah
thanks
karen,
can
you
hear
me?
I
guess
you
can
yeah.
I
was
just
seeing
in
the
chat
that
some
people
had
some
audio
issues,
but
I
hope
our
poor
look
that
works.
Perfect
hope
others
can
hear
us
yeah.
So
we're
doing
this
a
little
bit
like
back
and
forth
and
interactive
also
because
I
haven't
done
this
tutorial
the
last
a
couple
of
times,
so
I'm
karen
is
much
more
involved
in
the
actual,
a
virtual
aspect
of
the
meeting,
so
yeah,
I'm
miriam
cooner
and
my
day
job.
B
I
work
for
the
wipe
ncc,
the
regional
internet
registry
in
the
in
europe
and
I've
been
running
together
with
karen
the
edu
team
for
a
number
of
years,
but
now
I'm
kind
of
just
following
a
bit
remotely
and
I'm
doing
these
tutorials
from
time
to
time.
So
please
reach
in
care
and
jump
in
if
there's
anything,
I'm
missing.
B
So
in
this
next
section,
I
want
to
highlight
a
bit
more
about
how
the
itf
actually
works.
It's
not
just
one.
You
know
one
body
or
one
one
organization,
there's
actually
a
number
of
groups
involved
and-
and
I
just
want
to
explain
a
bit
how
this
all
fits
together
next
slide,
please
to
start
to
start.
B
Next
slide,
please
so
yeah
the
itf
is
a
standards
organization,
and
I
don't
know
how
many
of
you
have
maybe
experienced
other
standards
organizations,
for
instance
like
the
ieee
or
itu
or
etsy.
If
you
have
the
itf,
is
it's
a
bit
different
so
and
maybe
one
difference
is
that
you
participate
as
an
individual.
So
you
don't
necessarily
represent
your
organization,
your
company
or
your
your
government,
so
there's
no
formal
membership.
B
Everybody
participates
as
individuals
and
it
kind
of
tries
to
find
the
best
solution
and,
as
a
group
there's
also
no
formal
voting,
there's
something
we
call
rough
consensus
and
there's
humming
and
we'll
get
to
that
in
some
more
detail.
B
There
is
no
like
no
official
government
role,
I
mean
the
government's
participate
and
I
know
there
are
also
some
special
programs
for
government
representatives
to
kind
of
you
know
know
about
what's
going
on
in
the
itf,
but
it's
mostly
driven
really
by
participation
by
individual
participation,
and
it's
also
not
standards
aren't
mandated
by
the
idea
for
any
other
group
of
people
or
governments
or
organizations.
B
As
then,
it
really
becomes
a
standard
once
people
are
using
it
as
a
standard
on
the
internet,
so
people
are
really
trying
to
make
the
best
standards
so
that,
as
many
people
are
actually
willing
to
use
it,
it
is
obviously
focused
on
internet
technologies
and
there
are
some
kind
of
boundaries
to
other
technical
standards,
bodies
that
are
defined
on
the
internet
and
they're
also
liaisons
to
other
standards
organizations
and
it's
pretty
much
works,
brought
them
up
and
again,
like
my
participation,
my
individuals,
let's
go
on
to
the
next.
C
B
Here
you
can
see
and
the
number
of
areas,
so
the
itf
is
structured
in
in
areas
and
these
areas
focus
on
different
topics.
You
can
see
here
some
descriptions
of
the
focus
of
each
of
these
areas,
and
then
you
have
working
groups
that
fall
within
these
areas.
So
at
the
moment
there
are
about
seven
areas
and
roughly
130
working
groups.
Not
all
of
them
will
be
meeting
during
the
ietf
week,
but
you
can
find
them
all
on
on
the
website
and
maybe
also
to
mention
here.
B
B
Yes,
so
this
is
interesting,
the
itf
and
consensus-
and
I
said
earlier,
there's
no
voting,
no
formal
voting
and
there's
an
itf
mantra
from
the
early
days
of
the
itf,
and
it's
still
they
still
stick
with
that.
It's
we
reject
kings,
presidents
and
voting
and
we
believe
in
rough
consensus
and
running
code.
Now,
what's
rough
consensus,
I
mean
we
all
have
an
idea
of
what
consensus
means.
If
you
talk
to
people
and
in
a
group
and
but
rough
consensus,
it's
not.
It's
actually
really
nicely
defined
in
the
rfc.
B
That's
referred
to
at
the
bottom
of
the
slide,
and
it
really
means
that
everybody
is
listened
to
and
all
the
concerns
are
are
addressed
but
they're,
not
necessarily
all
accommodated.
So
if
I
have
a
concern
about
a
proposal
or
about
a
solution,
it's
been
discussed
and
it's
been
addressed
by
the
by
the
rest
of
the
group,
but
it
doesn't
necessarily
mean
it
can
be
solved.
So
in
the
end,
it's
kind
of
the
best
solution
that
everybody
can
live
with,
but
not
necessarily
the
perfect
solution.
B
So
there
are
descending
opinions
and
they're
heard
and
discussed
and
often
also
like
passionately
discussed,
but
that
can
not
necessarily
kind
of
developing
the
process
and
they're,
not
necessarily
stopping
a
pro
a
solution
from
being
developed.
So
how
do
we
measure
rough
consensus?
B
I
mean
you
know
there
are
some
people
maybe
speak
up
and
have
concerns
in
their
discussions,
but
that's
also
humming,
so
you
might
sit
in
a
working
group
and
the
working
group
chair
might
say
so,
who's
for
a
solution,
a
and
then
people
collect
and
then
european
chair
might
you
know,
ask
another
question
who's
for
solution
b
and
then
another
group
of
people
might
come
a
bit
higher
like
a
bit
louder
and
then
you
kind
of
have
an
idea
like
what
the
feeling
is
in
the
room.
Sometimes
it's
not
so
easy.
B
You
can
you
know,
then
this
may
be
equal
and
you
have
to
have
more
discussions
about
what
solution
is
the
preferred
one,
but
you
kind
of
get
an
idea,
what
the
what
the
room
feels
and
another
really
good
advantage
of
humming.
Is
that
it's
anonymous?
So
if
you
stick
up
your
hand,
everybody
can
see.
You
know
you
see
like:
oh,
this
person
is
kind
of
like
solution
neighbor,
as
I'm
like
the
solution
b.
B
If
you're
humming,
you
know
you,
don't
really
see
that
or
you
can't
really,
you
know
see
who's
humming,
except
maybe
the
person
next
to
you,
but
it's
a
much
more
anonymous
way
of
of
building
consensus,
but
it's
really
a
building
process
and
the
right.
The
session
chair,
the
ripping
group
chair
is
their
responsibility
to
to
work
on
that
and
to
build
that
consensus
so
that
everybody
can
live
with
it
in
the
end
and
also
important,
is
it's
not
all
done
at
the
meetings?
It's
actually.
B
The
mailing
lists
are
very
important
part
of
building
consensus.
So
in
most
cases
the
a
discussion
or
a
a
decision
is
carried
over
onto
the
mailing
list,
and
then
this
group
chairs
continuing
the
discussion
and
the
consensus
building
there.
B
And
this
is
yeah,
so
this
is
part
of
the
decision.
Decision-Building
process
and
the
humming
is
definitely
part
of
the
itf
culture,
and
then
there
are
a
few
other
aspects
that
I
would
like
to
to
stress.
It's
fairly
informal
also
dress
code,
where
you
don't
really
see
that
much
at
the
virtual
meeting,
but
also
in
physical
meetings.
People
love
wearing
t-shirts.
B
It's
really
informal
people
are
very
kind
of
you
know
also
informal
in
their
in
their
interaction
with
each
other,
and
they
are
quite
passionate
and
vocal,
sometimes
in
the
in
the
in
the
groups
in
the
working
group
sessions,
and
sometimes
we
might
feel
like
while
they're
fighting
with
each
other
or
they're,
just
basically
having
a
really
engaged
debate
and
also
a
lot
of
people
know
each
other
for
a
long
time
and
that
also
changes
or
has
the
influence
on
the
way
they
communicate.
B
So
that
can
sometimes
be
a
little
intimidating,
but
don't
feel
put
off
by
that.
If
you
have
a
comment
or
if
you
have
concerns-
or
if
you
have
something
to
add
or
you
bring
a
specific
expertise
to
it,
then
then
people
will
listen
to
you.
So
technical
excellence
is
really
also
I'm
highly
highly
valued
and
so
don't
be
shy
to
participate.
B
If
you
are
already,
if
you're
involved
in
the
main
prince
on
the
mailing
list,
there's
one
tip-
I
don't
know
if
you
have
this
on
the
on
the
slide
somewhere,
it
really
is
important
that
you
read
the
the
drafts
and
the
documents
that
are
being
discussed
at
a
working
group
session
because
yeah
that
will
help
you
understand
the
discussion
and
it'll
also
help
your
participation
and
your
contributions
to
the
to
the
discussion.
B
B
Yes,
so
I
want
to
go
a
little
bit
into
the
structure
of
the
itf.
I
mean
it's,
not
just
one
body.
As
I
said
earlier,
there
are
some
aspects
and
some
kind
of
subgroups
to
it,
and
maybe
most
important
for
you
here
at
this
point
is
the
blue
section.
B
At
the
right
hand,
side
is
the
itf
with
the
in
this
case,
three
different
areas
and
each
area
has
a
working
group
and,
as
I
said
earlier,
each
I
each
area
has
a
number
of
area
directors
and
they
together
form
the
what's
called
the
iesg,
the
internet,
engineering
steering
group
and
they're
basically
responsible
for
the
kind
of
technical
oversight
of
the
discussions
that
happen
in
the
working
groups
and
also
the
whole
standards
process.
B
You
see,
a
number
of
other
groups
say
that
the
pink
area
on
the
next
to
the
ietf,
the
ir
tf,
it's
the
internet,
research
task
force,
they're
structured
in
a
similar
way,
except
they
have
research
groups
and
not
working
groups
and
their
research.
B
The
the
working
group,
therefore,
the
internet
research,
student
group
in
that
case,
and
it's
kind
of
a
sister
organization
to
the
ietf
and
they're
also
meeting
around
the
same
time
and
some
of
the
research
groups
will
be
meeting
during
the
itf
week
and
often
research
groups
can
become
also
working
groups
later
on
in
the
ita.
B
B
What
else
do
we
have?
The
rxc
editor?
That's
an
important
function.
That's
the
group
of
people
responsible
for
the
rfcs
for
the
ietf
documents
and
also
the
documents
in
the
standards
track,
and
there
is
the
ayanna
at
the
bottom.
That's
the
internet,
assigned
names
and
numbers
authority.
I
guess
they're
providing
the
protocol
numbers
for
the
itf
and
they
come
out
of
the
itf
standards
process
and
then
at
the
top,
something
relatively
new.
That's
the
ietf
administrative
llc
there.
B
What's
that
stand
for
limited
liability
company,
it's
kind
of
the
legal
umbrella
for
the
itf,
I
think
on
the
next
slide.
If
you
go
on
to
the
next
slide,
you
see
definitions
of
each
of
them
a
bit
more,
so
we
have
the
iesg
responsible
for,
as
I
said,
the
technical
side
of
things,
the
irtf
doing
similar.
I
work
for
the
research
part
research
groups
and
then
the
iab
keeps
an
eye
on
the
overall
architecture
and
the
standards
process,
and
then
the
itf
company
is
kind
of
the
legal
umbrella
legal
home
for
the
all
itf.
B
You
know
entity,
okay
and
that's
it.
I
think
right,
karen,
you
are
gonna,
do
the
next.
Can
we
move
on
to
the
next
slide?
Where
we
talk
about
the
actual
itf
week.
D
Okay,
I'm
going
to
talk
about
basically
what
happens
during
an
ietf
week
now
there
will
be-
and
I'm
kind
of
going
to
try
and
point
out
the
differences
between
a
ordinary
face-to-face
ietf
week
and
what's
going
to
be
happening
in
our
virtual
ietf.
Next
slide,
please
at
a
high
level,
the
ietf
has
working
group
sessions.
D
There's
approximately
130
working
groups
in
the
ietf
there's
going
to
be
some
subset
meeting,
there's
a
little
bit
fewer
meeting
this
time
than
ordinarily.
But
there
are,
there
is
quite
a
full
schedule,
there's
also
birdsville
feather
sessions
and
those
are
sep
annotated
separately.
D
There
are
area-wide
sessions,
so
when
miriam
was
talking
about
the
various
areas
of
the
ietf
like
the
security
and
the
transport
area
and
the
internet
area,
some
each
of
these
areas
will
sometimes
have
an
area-wide
meeting.
It
might
be
a
working
group
or
it
might
be
a
like.
The
security
area.
Advisory
group,
for
example,
generally
meets,
and
it's
that
area-wide
discussion
and
then
there's
ietf
wide,
which
is
the
full
ietf.
D
There
will
be
some
plenaries,
sometimes
there's
two
fun
areas,
often
there's
only
one
and
we
occasionally
have
sponsor
invited
lunch
talks
now
those
will
obviously
not
be
occurring
this
week
at
least
I
don't
believe,
there's
going
to
be
a
virtual
version
of
that
also
generally,
on
the
weekend
before
we
have
a
hackathon
and
a
code
sprint
this
time
the
hackathon
is
actually
going
to
be
the
week
before
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
later
we
have
some
social.
D
D
We
will
not
have
any
technical
tutorials
this
week
there
are
a
number
of
pre-recorded
tech,
technical
tutorials
that
are
available
on
the
tutorials
page.
There
will
be
one
deep
dive
and
we
won't
be
having
any
lunch
sessions
this
time
around.
D
D
So
next
slide,
there's
also
in
a
normal
ietf
week
there
there
are
a
number
of
other
things
that
are
not
on
the
agenda,
and
that
includes
things
like
editing
sessions
bar
buffs,
hallway
meetings.
These
are
all
ad
hoc
and
there
may
be
some
some
types
of
ad
hoc
meetings
this
week.
This
will
be
up
to
individuals
to
to
schedule
them.
There
is
an
app
this
time.
D
D
All
of
the
information,
as
I
mentioned,
will
all
be
linked
from
the
data
tracker
page
and
there's
an
additional
page.
I
would
really
highlight
for
you
to
take
a
look
at
on
it's
a
session
participant
guide,
and
it
gives
you
some
basic
information
on
how
to
make
sure
you
know
it
gives
you
the
schedule
for
the
test
sessions
that
are
going
to
be
held
next
week,
and
it
gives
you
information
on
how
to
get
your
data
tracker,
login
and
all
of
the
things
that
you
would
ordinarily
need
to
participate.
D
Some
of
these
things
are
different
than
they've
been
in
the
past,
so
I
would
maybe
I
should
highlight
that
for
something
in
future
versions
of
this
the
slide,
but
this
that
guide
is
very
important.
Next
slide,
please.
D
So
the
biggest
part
of
an
ietf
wake
is
are
the
working
decisions.
This
is
where
most
of
the
work
is
done.
A
lot
of
this
work
is
done
on
mailing
lists,
and
so
the
the
session
itself
will
be
focused
on
resolving
key
open
issues.
Ordinarily,
they
will
be
strained
and
recorded.
Obviously,
everything
will
be,
will
be
streamed
and
recorded
this
time.
D
The
key
about
it
and
miriam
mentioned
this
earlier-
is
that
you,
you
really
want
you
really
want
to
have.
You
know,
read
the
agent
to
get
the
most
out
of
any
particular
session.
You
want
to
understand
what
the
agenda
the
meeting
is
going
in
and
there
won't
be
a
lot
of
presentations.
Often
it
will
often
be
you
know
the
last
version
you
know
changes
from
the
last
version
of
a
document
to
this
version
of
a
document
and
and
discussing
with
key
issues.
D
So
you
will
will
have
want
to
have
read
some
of
those
documents
in
advance.
Next
slide,
there's
often
birds
of
feather
sessions.
These
are
used
for
a
number
of
different
things
in
the
ietf,
including
preceding
the
formation
of
a
working
group.
These
are
generally
a
little
bit
higher
level.
They
include
discussion
of
what
the
charter
of
the
work
should
be.
D
Sometimes
I
do
them
as
a
one-time
activity
for
something
that's
not
going
to
become
a
working
group,
but
it's
a
timely
topic
or
something
that
needs
to
be
discussed.
Broadly,
it's
generally
proposed
by
a
group,
that's
interested
in
the
topic
and
it's
approved
by
the
area
area
directors.
Generally,
you
only
have
one
once
you
can
notice
these
on
the
data
tracker
agenda
by
a
little
bubble.
D
That
says
bof
off
to
the
right
on
the
data
tracker
and
I
believe,
if
I
remember
correctly,
there's
three
of
them
for
this
upcoming
week,
so
those
would
be
general
more
general
sessions
that
would
be
of
interest
next
slide.
D
D
The
idea
is
that
topics
that
are
a
little
bit
more
researchy,
not
quite
ready
for
standardization,
might
have
a
research
group
that
would
research
them
and
then
some
of
this
stuff
might
spin
off
working
groups
in
the
itf.
Eventually,
any
ir
like
the
ietf,
the
irtf
meetings
at
an
ietf
are
open
to
all
iatf
attendees.
D
There's
often
an
irtf
open
meeting
during
the
week,
which
will
sometimes
highlight
the
anrp
award
winners,
which
are
papers
that
are
are
highlighted
and
also
any
other
ihf
wide
types
of
research
talks
might
show
up
at
this.
A
on
our
irtf
open
meeting
next
slide
once
a
year
there
is
a
we've
been
having
an
applied
networking
research
workshop.
This
is
a
way
to
bring
the
academic
community
and
the
standards
community
closer
together.
D
It's
a
forum
for
all
of
them
to
come
together
and
it's
more
of
an
academic
style
of
meaning.
Where
a
set
an
author
presents
his
work
and
then
asks
and
people
ask
questions
about
it.
So
this
is
work
that
may
or
may
not
ever
impact
the
ietf,
but
it's
related
to
the
work
of
the
iatf.
D
A
rw
will
be
running
virtually
in
parallel
to
the
ietf.
The
anrw
sessions
are
linked
on
the
agenda,
so
you
can
search
on
the
agenda
page
for
a
rw
and
it'll.
Show
you
what
the
workshop
sessions
are.
I'm
thinking
that
there's
three
or
four
I
should
have
written
down
the
numbers.
I
looked
at
them
all
yesterday
to
see
what
they
were
and
how
I've
forgotten
so,
but
you
can
see
those
annotated
on
the
agenda.
D
D
Please,
generally
speaking,
there
are
some
area-wide
sessions,
some
plenaries
and
some
invited
talks,
and
you
would
often
the
lunch
talks
are
obviously
during
lunch.
There
won't
be
a
lunch
break.
There
will
be
some
coffee
break
types
of
times,
but
there's
not
an
actual
separate
lunch
break
and
the
the
area-wide
sessions
and
the
plenary,
I
believe,
there's
one
plenary.
This
time
will
be
on
the
agenda.
D
There
will
be
an
experiment
this
time
and
I
haven't
looked
to
see
how
it's
actually
articulated
on
the
agenda,
but
there
I
believe,
there's
going
to
be
an
iab
open
meeting
and
that
will
be
a
session
like
any
other
session,
but
it'll
be
related
to
the
work
of
the
iab
next
slide.
Please.
D
Of
hackathons
and
code
sprint,
so
there
is
a
hackathon
this
time
it
is
the
week
before
the
ietf.
If
you
go
to
the
meeting
page
for
ietf
108,
there's
a
link
there
for
the
hackathon
and
that'll.
Take
you
to
a
separate
hackathon
page
with
registration
for
the
hackathon
and
a
wiki
with
the
projects,
and
things
like
that.
D
The
thing
to
note
is
also
the
the
newcomers.
Virtual
quick
connections
that
I
mentioned
is
going
to
be
on
thursday
of
that
week.
So,
ordinarily,
a
lot
of
these
activities
would
happen
like
saturday
and
sunday
and
a
lot
of
those
activities
that
would
have
ordinarily
been
in
that
time
frame
have
been
moved
into
the
week
before
next
slide.
Please
networking
and
social
events.
I
don't
have
all
of
the
details
of
this.
D
I
know
that
there
is
going
to
be
a
a
platform,
a
virtual
meeting
space
type
of
platform,
where
you
will
be
able
to
go
to
different
spaces
and
meet
with
different
people.
D
I
know
that
the
normally
there
is
a
physical
desk
for
the
iana
staff
and
a
physical
desk
for
the
rsc
editor
staff,
and
they
are
going
to
meet
they're
going
to
staff
spaces
in
this
virtual
space,
and
so
it's
going
to
be
it's
a
it's
a
webrtc
based
tool
that
uses
chrome
a
webrtc
based
tool
that
creates
a
virtual
space
and
you
walk
around
the
space
and
meet
people
and
talk
to
them.
D
There'll
be
more
details
coming
out
about
that
as
as
it
gets
there.
A
number
of
us
have
participated
in
some
demos
of
that,
but
I
don't
have
the
floor
plan
or
anything
like
that
to
show
you,
but
the
networking
and
social
aspects
of
of
an
ietf
will
be
replicated
using
this
platform
next
slide,
please.
D
So
there
is
more
going
on.
There
will
be
a
side
me
there.
D
There
is
always
the
opportunity
for
side
meetings,
there
is
a
wiki
and
these
are
self-organized
meetings,
and
so
a
group
of
you
or
a
group
of
people
that
are
working
on
it
on
a
specific
topic
can
decide
to
do
the
side
meeting,
and
this
is
the
wiki
that
you
go
to
to
put
all
of
those
details
in
there
and
that
way
other
people
that
might
be
interested
in
it
join
it
if
you're
in
a
particular
working
group,
for
example-
and
you
want
to
have
a
side
meeting
on
some
new
work
that
might
be
interested
in,
might
be
interesting
in
that
working
group,
then
you
would
go
here.
D
You
would
sign
up
for
your
side
meeting
and
then
you
might
post
in
addition
to
adding
it
to
the
wiki.
You
might
say,
post
to
the
working
group,
that's
relevant
that
you're
going
to
have
this
site
meeting.
If
you
wanted
to
get
additional
visibility
and
possibly
additional
participants,
there
will
be
a
technical,
deep
dive.
D
D
The
hot
rfc
lightning
talks
historically,
on
sunday
evening,
we've
had
a
a
a
session
on
lightning
talks.
These
are
generally
five
to
ten
minute
talks
on
new
work
or
or
ideas
that
you
might
have
there's
going
to
be
some
sort
of
an
experimental
online
format
and
that
information
will
be
will
be
coming
soon.
D
As
you
can
imagine,
there's
a
lot
of
moving
parts
to
an
ietf
meeting
and
this
one
is
going
to
be
very
different
than
the
ones
we've
done
in
the
past
so
before
we
could
tell
you
definitively
well.
This
is
exactly
what's
going
to
happen
and
how
it's
going
to
happen,
and
this
time
we're
like
well,
it's
going
to
be
a
little
bit
fuzzier
than
that,
but
we'll
all
get
there
in
the
end,
all
right
next
slide,
please
so
some
general
meaning
etiquette.
D
Remember
to
sleep
next
slide.
Please
bringing
new
work
to
the
iep.
D
So
one
of
the
first
things
that
you
want
to
do
is
to
find
some
collaborators
that
have
a
similar
interest,
because
the
key
to
work
being
successful
in
into
the
ietf
is
having
you
know,
a
group
of
a
diverse
set
of
participants
that
are
interested
in
the
work
you
can
write.
Some
initial
drafts
maybe
have
some
informal
bar
buffs
or
some
side
meetings,
talk
to
area
directors
in
the
relevant
areas
so,
depending
on
the
work
that
you're
interested
in
doing
there
might
be
like
a
dispatch
group
and
you'll
see
these
on
the
agenda.
D
I
didn't
speak
to
them
specifically,
which
I
should
have
a
dispatch
group
in
an
area
is
usually
an
area-wide
meeting
that
tries
to
quickly
process
a
bunch
of
new
ideas
that
are
coming
in
so
somebody
comes
in
and
they
present
their
idea.
They
present
their
draft
and
the
the
group
will
decide
is
it?
Is
it
relevant
for
an
existing
working
group?
Is
this
something
that
we're
ready
to
take
on
right?
Now
we
just
want
to
send
it
over
to
this
existing
working
group.
D
You
know:
do
we
want
to
do
some
more
work
on
it
and
come
back
and
maybe
propose
a
separate
working
group
and
it's
a
it's
a
way
to
get
some
sort
of
high-level,
quick
feedback
on
what
the
next
steps
for
an
idea
might
be.
So
that
would
be
something
to
watch
for
on
the
agenda
as
well.
I
don't
know
if
I
know
like
sec
dispatch
does
this
for
security,
and
I
don't
remember
if
they're
meeting
this
week
or
not,
but
that
would
be
one
thing
to
look
for
rich.
Are
you
nodding?
D
They
are
meaning
or
you're
looking
to
see
so
next,
after
that,
you
might
propose
a
boss
with
an
agenda
and
charter
and
all
of
the
needed
materials
hold
them
off
and
then
the
consensus
is,
you
know
the
area
director
and
the
participants
the
room
determine
the
next
steps
for
the
work,
but
before
you
do
any
of
that,
we
have
done
a
tutorial
on
bringing
new
work
to
the
ietf
and
there's
links
to
the
slides
in
the
video
there
and
that
actually
talks
a
lot
about
how
to
successfully
bring
work
to
the
ietf
next
slide.
D
D
The
link
that
I
referred
to
earlier,
that
that
was
a
participant
guide,
provides
some
test
opportunities
so
that
you
can
make
sure
that
you
know
your
version
of
your
web
browser
is
is
working
correctly
and
all
of
that
I
think
we're
we're
all
in
the
current
state
of
affairs
we're
all
pretty
good
now
at
at
online
meetings,
but
obviously
people
community
when
you're
speaking
use
a
headset
if
possible,
the
isf
is
a
global
community,
and
so
you
want
to
speak
slowly
and
clearly
be
success,
be
concise,
especially
in
an
online
version.
D
You
lose
a
little
bit
of
time.
You
want
just
use
as
few
words
as
possible.
I'm
not
sure
that
we
want
to
use
my
current
performance
as
a
metric
of
that,
but
you
know
be
concise
slowly.
Clearly,
technical
comments
and
questions
are
are
welcome.
The
the
further
along
a
working
group
is
in
a
particular
activity,
the
less
receptive
they
are
to
tutorial
types
of
questions,
but
technical
comments
and
questions
are
always
welcome
and
then
and
use
the
jabber
channel.
D
Now,
in
this
context,
the
the
chat
room
on
the
the
left
hand
side
of
your
the
the
jabber-
is
incorporated
into
the
meat
echo
tool
and
since
we
will
all
be
virtual
and
we'll
all
be
using
this
tool,
the
jabra
room
is
there
on
the
left-hand
side.
So
you
don't
need
to
bring
up
a
separate
job
or
browser
unless
you
want
to
have.
You
know
other
sideline
conversations,
but
for
the
meeting
that
you're
in
the
jabber
room
will
be
attached
to
your
to
your
session
next
slide.
B
Thanks
karen,
so
I
think
karen
covered
basically
the
the
meat
of
the
of
the
presentation
and
the
main,
the
most
important
parts
that
are
also
relevant
now
for
the
for
the
virtual
meeting.
So
thank
you
karen.
So
now,
at
the
end,
we
just
have
a
a
few
more
slides
about
some
additional
information
and
also
some
the
people
that
make
it
all
happen
and
make
it.
You
know
make
the
itf
work.
B
Maybe
some
of
it
is
not
as
relevant
now
for
the
virtual
meetings
and
it
will
be
in
or
another
maybe
personal
meetings,
but
I
still
would
like
to
mention
all
this.
So
let's
next
slide,
please
yeah.
B
So
some
of
the
key
people
of
with
obviously
the
itf
secretariat
is
still
a
lot
of
work
in
the
background
and
to
put
it
all
together,
usually
you
would
see
them
hang
out
in
their
little
uniforms
and
then
their
blue
shirts
or
other
colored
shirts,
but
this
time
you'll
probably
see
them
do
a
lot
of
work.
In
the
background,
I
don't
know
how
visible
it
will
be
next
slide.
Please
then,
you
also
have
karen
already
mentioned.
B
Often
there
are
physical
tables
that
you
can
go
and
meet,
for
instance,
diana
staff
or
the
rfc
editor.
There
might
be
some
side
rooms
this
time
where
you
can
talk
to
them.
If
you
have
any
questions,
but
they
definitely
won't
have
any
tables
there
so
and
ayanna
always
brings
sweets.
So
I
look
forward
to
the
next
physical
meeting
to
meet
them
there.
So
next
slide,
please
a
relatively
new
addition
to
the
itf
is
the
ihf
executive
director,
jay
daly,
who
will
probably
also
yeah,
say
if
he
works.
B
I
guess
from
time
to
time
during
the
itf.
So
next
slide
please-
and
this
is
also
important,
as
karen
mentioned
at
the
beginning.
I
think
it
was
part
of
the
note.
Well,
there
is
an
anti-harassment
policy
and
document
also
that
you
can
look
at
and
there
are
a
number
of
people,
the
ombuds
team
that
you
can
speak
to
if
you
experience
any
yeah
unwanted
in
our
behavior,
even
in
a
virtual
meeting.
B
Obviously
you
know
this
can
happen,
and
so
here
the
the
pictures
and
the
names
of
those
three
onwards
team
members
that
you
can
reach
out
to-
and
I
guess
there
there's
also
a
contact
information
in
the
document.
That's
on
the
slide
next
slide,
please
yeah!
B
This
is
also
mostly
relevant
for
me
for
the
physical
meetings
I
mean
this
is
some
people
have
so
this
is
basically
an
overview
of
all
the
different
functions
that
one
can
have
in
an
ietf
and
you
can
recognize
them
by
different
colors
bed
and
dots
or
ribbons
on
the
badges.
This
is
maybe
not
for
this
virtual
meeting
so
relevant
next
slide.
Please.
B
Yeah,
so
this
is
more
even
more
stuff
to
read
up
before
you
participated
in
itf,
there's
an
interesting
document
at
the
time
of
the
ietf.
That
really
goes
through
a
lot
of
the
aspects
of
the
itf
environment
and
culture
and
mission
and
how
to
behave
and
what
what
all
the
background
and
and
how
to
make
the
best
out
of
it.
That's
more
an
overall
a
document
enough
specific
to
the
not
as
specific
like
the
particip
as
the
participation
guide.
B
That
karen
mentioned,
that's
more
long-lived
and
documented
that's
relevant
also
for
physical
meetings
and
then,
of
course,
there's
a
lot
of
information
for
newcomers
on
this
page.
You
already
mentioned
a
few
times
and
and
other
tutorials.
I
don't
think
there
will
be
any
other
tutorials
this
time,
karen
right,
technical
tutorials
on
them.
D
There's
no
more
technical
tutorials
there
will
be
the
dns
deep
dive
right
right.
Okay,
next
slide,.
B
Please,
yes,
here
some
more
mailing
lists
that
might
be
interesting
for
you
to
join
the
newcomers.
Mailing
list
that
you
can,
I
think,
is
subscribe
to
when
you
register
and
there
will
be
some
information
relevant
to
the
specific
meeting
for
newcomers.
Mostly,
I
don't
know
if
you
have
a
link
to
the
actual
108
participants,
if
there's
another
attendees
list
and
this
time
they
might
be
coming
on
the
next
slide,
I'm
not
sure
the
itf
sisters.
I
haven't
seen
anything.
I
don't
know
if
they're
meeting
this
time.
B
This
is
a
group
of
women
participants
in
the
itf
and
they're
usually
meeting
during
the
week
and
there's
also
a
mailing
list.
So
if
you
go
to
that
link,
there
will
be
more
information
and
then
yes,
yes,
more
information
about
the
various
mailing
lists
that
you
can
join.
Also
yeah
lots
more
next
slide,
please
yeah!
This
is
important
also,
as
we
mentioned
a
few
times
this.
All
the
information
is
basically
on
the
data
tracker.
B
You
can
find
information
about
all
the
working
groups
in
the
box
and
the
milestones
and
documents
and
rfcs,
and
that
are
on
data
tracker
and
there's
also
a
tools
page
that
will.
You
will
find
some
useful
tools
that
the
idf
participants
are
using
to
find
things
next
slide.
Please.
B
This
is
the
team
that
makes
it
all
happen
here,
this
platform
that
we're
using
right
now,
at
least
I'm
part
of
the
team-
and
that's
that's
the
platform
we're
using
for
this
for
this
tutorial,
but
also
for
the
itf
week
and
yeah.
All
of
the
sessions
are
linked
from
the
data
tracker
pages
and
again
the
participant's
guide.
That's
linked
here
as
well.
Next
slide,
please.
B
Yeah
karen
mentioned
already
the
jabber
rooms.
They
will
be
linked
from
the
actual
meeting
pages
meeting
site
like
we
are
using
using
it
now.
So
you
can
use
that
to
you
know
just
like
we're
doing
now,
basically
ask
questions
to
other
participants,
but
also
about
the
the
presentations
and
the
discussion
going
on
in
the
working
group
sessions
and
yeah.
As
you
can
see
here,
it's
going
to
be
integrated
in
the
whole
online
platform
and
you
can
find
more
about
jarrah
and
also
the
the
underlying
protocols
in
this
on
this
website.
B
Next
slide.
Please-
and
that's,
I
think,
brings
us
almost
to
the
end
of
the
presentation.
Yeah
we
put
this
here
at
the
end
because,
as
karen
said
earlier,
and
especially
for
the
physical
meetings,
it
can
be
quite
overwhelming.
There
are
a
lot
of
different
sessions,
a
lot
of
things
stuff's
going
on
and
if
you're
new
to
the
itf,
you
want
to
get
the
most
out
of
it,
so
you
you're
often
likely
to
overcommit
and
to
try
to
go
to
too
many
events
and
participate
in
too
many
meetings.
B
Of
course,
this
can
also
be
the
case
in
the
virtual
meeting.
Even
though
the
days
are
a
little
shorter
and
they're,
not
as
many
site
meetings
and
as
many
parallel
events
but
yeah
bubble,
try
to
enjoy
it
and
get
the
best
out
of
it,
try
to
also
participate
in
some
of
the
social
events
and
get
to
meet
people
as
much
as
possible
in
the
virtual
meeting
and
hopefully
we'll
meet
each
other
again
at
the
future
meeting.
I
think
this
is
the
last
slide.
B
Oh
yeah,
of
course,
very
important.
The
link
to
the
survey,
which
is,
I
think,
live
now,
so
you
can
go,
and
then
you
can
also
tell
us
what
you
this
is
the
survey
for
the
itf.
This
is
probably
for
after
karen,
you
have
to
help
me
there's
also
a
survey
for
the
tutorials
right.
I
don't
know.
Maybe
we
don't
have
that
this
time.
D
No,
this
is
this,
is
the
survey
for
the
the
newcomers
overview
presentation?
Oh
there'll,
be
a
survey
afterwards
for.
B
Okay,
that
makes
sense.
Yes,
sorry,
I
didn't
prepare
for
this
last
couple
of
slides.
You
kind
of
made
some
changes
before
the
yeah.
The
parents
threw
these
slides
on
me,
I'm
like
oh
I'll,
just
figure
it
out.
So
yes,
but
please
let
us
know
by
either
filling
in
the
the
survey
please
fill
in
the
survey.
If
this
tutorial
was
helpful,
if
you
have
suggestions
on
how
to
make
it
better
and
also
you
can
reach
the
education
team,
the
edu
team,
via
this
email
address.
D
Right
and
and
as
rich
has
put
in
the
chat
we
we
do
listen
to
feedback
and
so
any
any
any
suggestions
that
you
have
any
things
that
you
found
confusing
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
us
and
we'll
try
to
to
clarify
it
going
forward.
There
will
be
at
least
one
more
email
going
to
newcomers
that
will
have
information
in
it.
D
You
should
have
already
received
one
that
includes
information
about
guides
and
a
number
of
other
things,
and
there
will
be
links
to
there'll,
be
a
little
bit
more
information
about
the
virtual
quick
connections
and
also
the
newcomer
coffee
breaks
that
we're
going
to
do
during
the
week.
But
we
still
have
a
week
or
two
to
iron
out
the
details
of
that.
B
Matthias
is
asking
here
what
would
be
the
next
newcomer
session
about,
I
think,
the
if
you're,
referring
to
the
one
that's
scheduled
for
in
two
days.
That's
basically
the
same,
oh,
which
already
answered
that.
Yes,
it's
the
same
tutorial
again,
just
in
a
different,
slightly
different
time
zone
and
for
people
who
maybe
didn't
have
time
to
participate
in
this
one.
So
you're
welcome
to
join
again.
There
will.
D
Be
different
speakers,
yes
different
speakers.
The
other
thing
is:
is
that
because
we
had
a
fair
amount
of
change
in
this,
we
will
probably
have
a
really
quick
after
this.
Did
we
miss
anything?
Did
we
misstate
anything?
So
there
might
be
a
corrected
version
of
the
slides
posted
once
we
figure
out
what
we
meant
this
time
around
so.
B
But
if
you
have
any
questions
now
we
have
some
time
and
then
also
if
you
once
you've
gone
through
the
itf
meeting,
maybe
you've
you
know
you
go
like
oh.
I
wish
I
would
have
known,
and
I
wish
the
people
would
have
told
me
in
the
newcomers
session.
Then
please
also
let
us
know
but
yeah.
If
you
want
to
ask
any
questions
now,
I
don't
know
how
you
kind
of
do
this
in
the
chat
or
I
guess
you
can
raise
your
hand.
D
Yeah,
I
think
the
the
meat
echo
interface
has
changed
slightly,
but
I
believe
there's
an
opportunity
for
people
to
raise
their
hands
and
or
and
request,
audio
and
speak.
If
you
wish
any
additional
questions,
I
think
rich
has
been
pretty
on
top
of
answering
them
as
they
come.
B
A
D
Alrighty
well,
if
there
are
no
questions,
I
I'm
not
seeing
any
in
the
chat
and
I
don't
believe
maybe
alessandra
can
tell
us
if
anybody
has
requested.