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From YouTube: IETF109 NEWCOMERS WEBINAR 20201104 020114
Description
NEWCOMERS webinar before IETF109
2020/11/04 020114
A
A
There'll
be
some
information
about
it
at
the
very
end,
but
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
us
at
any
point
with
any
questions,
and
with
that
rich
I'll
give
it
to
you.
B
Sure,
okay,
so
welcome,
they
say
start
off
with
a
joke,
so
I'll
start
with
a
joke
for
those
in
the
u.s
or
watching
the
results.
This
will
not.
We
will
keep
this
seminar
as
a
safe
space
and
in
spite
of
our
desire
to
avoid
it,
we
will
not
run
until
6
a.m
tomorrow
morning.
So
we'll
finish
on
time,
we'll
help
room
for
questions,
and
then
we
can
all
get
back
to
biting
our
nails.
B
So,
as
karen
mentioned,
she
and
I
are
part
of
the
edu
team-
actually
were
the
co-chairs.
I
guess
that
is
one
of
the
groups
within
the
ietf
that
works
to
provide
these
kinds
of
educational
offerings.
We
also
provide
other
newcomers
activities
that
are
mentioned
in
the
webpage.
Everyone
should
have
gotten
them
email.
If
you
didn't.
Let
us
know
by
clicking
something
in
the
chat
room
typing
something
in
the
chat
room.
B
All
of
the
slides
are
available
off
the
newcomers
page,
which
will
show
up
in
the
chat
room.
It
should
also
be
in
the
email
you
got
and
all
of
the
when
you
see
the
hard
copy,
the
pdf
all
of
the
links
on
there
will
be
live.
We
checked
them
out
earlier
today,
so
everything
points
to
the
right
stuff,
so
welcome.
First,
I
just
the
first
definition.
You
know
a
newcomer
in
the
itf
terminology
is
someone
who's
attended
up
to
five
meetings.
B
We
meet
three
times
a
year,
so
that
means
you
can,
if
you
so
choose
identify.
You
know,
as
a
newcomer
for
the
first
two
years
of
your
involvement,
a
first-timer
is
up,
obviously
someone
who
this
is
their
first
time.
Okay,
so,
let's
get
into
it.
Welcome
we
will
be.
This
presentation
will
cover
three
sections
introduction
to
newcomers
activities
the
ietf
structure,
the
I
what
the
ietf
week
is
like,
obviously
with
the
virus,
it's
all
online
and
virtual.
B
So
it's
different
than
some
of
the
face-to-face
things
we
have
and
then
we'll
finish
with
pointing
out
some
of
the
key
people
and
resources
that
are
available
to
you.
If
you
get
lost
or
confused
or
are
harassed
or
bothered.
Pardon
me
we'll
end
each
section
with
a
chance
to
ask
questions.
B
Don't
click
raise
hand
in
the
participant
list
because
that's
harder
to
see
we
have
to
scroll
through
it,
but
whoever's
not
talking
right
now
it
would
be
karen
when
she
presents
it
would
be
me,
will
keep
an
eye
open
on
the
chat
room
and
then
you
know
name
you
and
then
you
can
sort
of
unmute,
and
you
know,
ask
your
question
or
type
it
into
the
chat
room.
If
you
prefer.
B
This
newcomers
presentation
has
been
part
of
the
history
of
the
itf
for
a
very
long
time.
Scott
bradner
and
mike
st
johns
are
two
graybeards,
as
we
call
them
scott,
since
retired
mike
is
still
around
who
have
done
the
earlier
versions
of
this
thing
and
presented
it
for
a
very
long
time.
B
So
because
we're
a
standards
organization,
an
sdo,
we
have
to
have
certain
policies,
and
so
this
and
the
next
slide
talk
about
what
the
legal
impacts
or
the
legal
ramifications
are
of
your
participation
by
the
time
you're.
At
the
end
of
the
note
well
you'll.
At
the
end,
sorry,
by
the
time
you're
at
the
end
of
the
week,
the
chairs
will
just
be
saying:
okay,
here's
the
note
well,
you've
seen
it
before
any
questions
move
on
there
are
you
don't
have
to
read
this
now?
B
It's
what
we
call
an
I
I
chart
slide
a
lot
of
very
small
print,
but
it
talks
about
what
rights
are
involved.
If
you
participate,
meaning
you
can't
keep
patent
information
secret,
you
have
to
respect
the
participants
are
involved
karen
if
you
go
on
to
the
next
slide,
please
this
is
the
number
of
documents
it
talks
about
how
this,
how
the
standards
work
the
flow
through
the
itf.
B
How
the
working
group
works
with
the
working
group
is
there's
like
130
of
them
is
how
the
work,
the
real
work,
gets
done,
which
is
preparing
documents,
anti-harassment
procedures,
code
of
conduct,
copyright.
When
you
write
a
draft,
you
are
turning
over
the
copyright
to
the
ietf
corporation
and
there's
certain
rights
that
you
maintain,
but
certain
rights
you
also
give
up
when
you
participate
and
a
privacy
policy
and
so
on.
B
The
notewell
itself
is
on
the
ietf
website,
fairly
prominently,
and
then
from
there
you
can
click
and
read
all
of
the
other
things
should
you
need
to,
or
you
should
at
least
feel
free
to
do
so,
if
you
haven't
done
it
yet
on
the
bottom
of
the
zoom
window,
there's
a
little
chat
button
with
a
with
a
speech
balloon
pop
that
open.
If
you
can
and
move
it
off
to
the
side,
so
you
can
ask
questions
there,
as
karen
is
monitoring
that
right
now
next
slide.
B
So
we
have
a
lot
of
newcomer
activities
or
things
designed
to
orientate
orient
newcomers
and
make
the
the
week
that's
coming
up
in
mid-november,
useful
and
productive
for
you
and
therefore
the
ietf.
B
So
this
is
the
first
of
two
webinars
we're
giving
the
next
one
18
hours
from
now
no
36
hours
from
now
is
it's
the
same
as
this
we'll
just
be
switching
speaking
positions?
So
if
you
come
here-
and
you
don't
have
questions,
then
you
don't
have
to
come
to
the
next
one.
B
There
is
a
virtual,
quick
connections.
This
will
be
held
in
one
of
the
social
rooms
online.
Virtual
I'll
show
you
some
slides
of
that.
B
10
minutes
move
to
the
next
table.
So
it's
mainly
about
making
getting
recommendations
for
contacts
and
connecting
you
know,
names
with
faces,
if
possible.
Virtually
the
coffee
breaks
are
in
the
morning
before
the
sessions
start,
and
that
will
be
in
the
same
place
as
the
quick
connections
and
it's
just
a
social
social
gathering.
Talk
meet
other
people
who
have
been
here
the
first
time
or
are
newcomers
or
first-timers
can
make
some
good
friends
that
way.
There
will
also
be
experienced
people
around
to
answer
questions
and
so
on.
B
The
guides.
Mentoring
has
sign
ups
going
on
now,
so
that
there's
someone
who
commits
to
being
available
to
you
all
week
during
the
ietf
meetings,
and
so
you
can
message
them
chat
with
them,
email
and
so
on.
B
One
of
the
all
of
the
information
and
there's
a
full
page
write-up,
is
on
the
newcomers.
Page
that's
listed
there
at
the
top
of
the
slide.
Okay,
one
of
the
the
yeah
okay
I'll,
come
back
to
that
later.
So
sorry
next
slide,
please
so
how
to
prepare
for
an
ietf
meeting.
You
see
the
link,
so
this
information
is
stuff.
That's
designed
to
be
immediately
available
and
useful
to
you.
B
We
don't
cover
at
all
the
history.
We
don't
cover
how
to
write
standards.
We
don't
cover
how
to
you
know,
say:
oh,
I
want
to
do
this
new
topic
of
work
right.
It's
just
like
here's,
the
groups
that
are
meeting
and
here's
how
to
get
in
into
all
of
them
and
here's
how
to
start
participating.
You
know
hit
the
ground
running
as
the
phrase
goes,
so
you
don't
have
to
sort
of
look
around
and
say:
oh
yeah,
you
know,
I
know
something
about
network
routing
or
I
know
something
about
how
dns
operates.
B
B
Yeah
the
the
this,
if
you
mean
this
session
being
the
tutorial,
that's
an
hour,
we
try
to
leave.
You
know
10
15
minutes
at
the
end
for
questions.
The
working
group
sessions
have
different
time
slots
and
the
chairs
have
picked.
You
know
if
they
want
to
meet
for
60
minutes.
They
want
to
meet
for
90
minutes
or
two
hours,
which
is
yeah
different
by
working
group,
but
this
session
is
an
hour.
B
So
now
I'll
give
a
brief
talk
about
where
the
ietf
fits
into
the
organization.
The
whole
ecosystem,
that's
around
the
ietf.
So
next
slide,
please,
okay!
So
our
mission,
I'll
read
this
out
loud.
The
mission
of
the
ietf
is
to
make
the
internet
work
better
by
providing
high
quality,
relevant
technical
documents
that
influence
the
way
people,
design,
use
and
manage
the
internet.
B
Now
one
phrase
you
hear
a
lot
is
we're
not
the
protocol
police
as
in.
If
you
do
something
that
doesn't
meet,
you
know
the
http
1.1
spec,
there's
nothing
we're
going
to
do
about
it.
You
know
we're
not
going
to
come
and
turn
off
your
router,
but
the
purpose
of
all
of
the
of
what
we
write
is-
and
it
goes
back
to
the
very
first
definit
in
the
very
original
definition
of
rfc,
which
is
request
for
comments.
B
If
you
want
to
work
with
the
other
people
on
the
internet
in
this
area,
then
these
are
the
guidelines
for
how
you
should
do
it
and
the
standards
language
has
phrases
like
you
must
do
this,
so
you
should
do
this.
You
should
not
do
that,
but
it's
up
to
the
individual
installations,
software
developers
and
so
on
to
write
things.
We
want
to
develop
things
that
are
useful,
that
they
that's
functional.
It
cannot
do
what
it's
needed.
B
It's
scalable
we
want
to.
You
know
the
phrase
deploy
at
scale
right.
The
the
internet,
we're
developing
standards
here
that
run
over
the
whole
internet
and
through
the
whole
internet,
so
scalability
is
very
definitely
important.
Security
in
the
past
few
years
has
become
more
important
to
the
ietf.
B
So
we
see
things
like
end-to-end
encryption,
tls,
encrypting,
more
and
more
data
time
is
important.
You
don't
want
to
be
able
to
send
someone's
clock
back
in
the
past
and
replay
old
messages,
so
that's
got
more
security
and
so
on,
and
then
there's
a
lot
many
working
groups
and
operate
devoted
to
operational
issues.
B
B
So
what
is
the
ietf?
We
are
a
standards,
development
organization,
sdo
other
ones
you
might
have
heard
of
are
w3c
oasis,
nc,
ecma,
etsy
itu
is
another
big
global
one.
We're
different
from
almost
all
of
those.
B
B
We
don't
and
if
we
were
doing
this
face-to-face
I'd
I'd
run
a
sample
one
at
the
end
of
the
meeting,
but
we
hum
and
how
we
hum
virtually
is
we're
trying
to
work
out
the
details.
But
humming
has
the
advantage
and,
of
course,
there's
an
rc
on
it.
You
can't
tell
who's
humming.
You
can't
look
at
a
raised
hands
and
say:
oh
yeah,
I'm
going
to
vote
like
he
did
because
we're
both
in
the
same
company
and
you
can't
tell
who's
humming
yes
or
who's
humming.
No,
it's
very
difficult!
B
It's
driven
by
market-based
adoption,
meaning
a
standard,
is
only
useful
if
it's
used.
B
B
Bottom
up
means
the
people
who
the
individuals
who
are
on
the
working
group
and
are
writing
the
documents,
that's
the
product
and
that's
why
we're?
But
we
say
we're
bottom
up
next
slide.
Please.
B
B
Every
area
has
two
or
three
area
directors,
the
bottom
one
gen
is
general
and
that's
devoted
to
the
ietf
itself.
So
that's
where
we
have
rfcs
and
working
groups
discussing
how
we
pick
venues
for
meeting
how
we
decide
who
can
be
on
the
nominating
committee
and
so
on,
and
that's
just
run
by
one
person,
the
general
chair,
sorry,
the
ietf
chair
is
the
area
director
for
gen,
but
all
of
the
others
have
two
or
three
people
who
have
got.
You
know
for
the
most
part
years
of
knowledge
on
these
things.
B
Pardon
me
so
the
ietf
really
likes
this
phrase.
It
came
from
dave
clark,
a
research
professor,
at
mit,
very
much
involved
in
the
early
days
of
the
arpanet
and
follow
on
the
internet.
We
reject
king's
presidents
and
voting
meaning
its
consensus
and
we
believe
in
rough
consensus
and
running
code,
in
other
words,
nobody's
ahead
of
anybody
else.
B
Rough
consensus
is
interesting,
it
doesn't
mean
we
all
agree
and
it
doesn't
mean
that
we've
necessarily
compromised,
but
it
means
that
all
of
the
points
were
raised
and
if
somebody
says
well,
this
is
bad
because
of
abc
the
working
group
can
decide.
Well,
that's
a
yeah.
We
see
your
point,
your
point,
but
we
disagree
with
you,
so
it
doesn't
have
to
be
that
everything
was
addressed
and
it
doesn't
have
to
mean
that
everybody
has
compromised.
B
It
just
means
that
all
the
concerns
have
been
heard,
not
necessarily
accommodated
but
heard,
and
that's
very
different
from
say
the
ones
I'm
familiar
with
and
seeing
itu
right,
which
is
very
much.
You
know
you
you'll
have
voting
and
you'll
have
to
make
sure
to.
You
know
make
the
standards
more
flexible
or
oasis.
I
guess
so
that
everybody
will,
you
know,
vote
yes,
okay,
humming,
it's
a
way
to
get
the
temperature
of
the
room.
It's
anonymous.
B
Nobody
raises
their
hand,
as
I
mentioned
before,
and
it's
up
to
the
working
group
chairs,
who
will
be
you
know
either
are
the
owners
of
the
video
presentation
or
in
face
to
face
or
sitting
at
the
front
of
the
room,
to
listen
with
the
help
of
their
area
director
and
determine
which
way
the
consensus
goes.
B
The
rfc
mentioned
there
7282
it's.
You
know
interesting
and
fun
to
read.
If
you
just
typed
ietf
rfc7282
into
you,
know,
bing
google,
what
duckduckgo,
whatever
it'll
come
up.
One
of
the
first
couple
links
that
will
come
up
will
be
a
copy
of
it
and
the
official
links
to
the
formal
documents
which
are
the
same
as
what
you'll
find
on
the
net
are
available
in
the.
B
The
iesg
and
I'll
talk
about
more
of
this
on
the
next
slide.
That's
the
all
the
area
directors
I
mentioned
couple
slides
ago.
Each
area
has
two
or
three
directors
to
collect
collectively
they're,
the
isg,
and
you
can
see
that
blue
circle
on
the
right
hand,
side
divided
to
the
in
the
areas
and
working
groups
are
all
within
an
area
and
the
working
groups
have
a
charter
and
they
are
charted
to
work
on
a
particular
technology,
http
network
time,
the
border
gateway
protocol.
You
know
things
like
that.
B
The
irtf,
which
is
shown
on
the
pink
circle
on
the
right
there,
although
it's
yeah
rsg,
is
the
same
kind
of
thing,
but
not
producing
documents
that
or
standards
that
affect
the
operation
of
the
internet,
they're.
Looking
a
little
further
out.
It
follows
all
of
the
same
rules
and
structures,
and
so
on.
It's
separate
but
the
same
kind
of
thing
and
it
meets
the
same
time.
B
B
They
often
have
feedback,
and
that
goes
back
to
the
working
group
or
the
document
authors.
They
can,
you
know,
block
something,
say,
a
discuss,
meaning
hey.
I
didn't
understand
what
you
meant
by
this.
You
should
clear
clarify
this,
so
it's
really
useful
last
minute
review
by
folks
who
might
have
a
wider
horizon.
B
They
are
tef
I
mentioned,
is
a
parallel
structure.
The
iab
provides
oversight
longer
term
things,
they
run.
Programs
such
as
the
rfc
editor,
so
the
isg
is
focused
on
technical
and
when
organizing
the
meetings
in
person
and
the
iab
handles
longer
scale
things
the
llc
limited
liability
corporation,
it's
a
us
construct
legal
construct,
it's
the
legal
home.
B
So
when
somebody
has
to
sign
a
contract
with
a
hotel.
B
B
Okay,
all
right
so
yeah.
So,
let's
just
looking
at
the
chat
before
we
go
into
the
next
section,
yeah,
let's
just
see,
how
do
you
remember
most
or
all
of
the
rfcs?
B
I
don't
know
anybody
who
does
people
will
remember
the
ones
that
are
in
their
area
or
things
that
they're
interested
in
many
people
know
particular
ones
that
affect
the
op
define
the
operations
of
the
ietf.
B
But
I
mean
I've
been
around,
for
you
know
too
many
years
and
I'll
come
to
a
meeting
and
all
of
a
sudden
someone
will
stand
up
and
go
well.
You
know,
as
we
said
in
roc,
2612
blah
blah
blah.
I'm
like
how
do
you
even
remember
those
numbers?
You
just
don't
you
know,
and
then
people
are
often
you
know
sitting
there
typing
at
their
laptop
rfc
2612
and
calling
it
up
and
go.
Oh
yeah,
that's
the
one
that
def
defines
may
much
should
chow,
but
there
are
many
people
and
there's
a
joke.
B
We
can
talk
about
some
other
time
about
that.
You
know,
don't
remember
all
the
rc's
you
have
to
and
often
an
rfc
will
say.
Oh,
this
updates
a
previous
one
or
this
obsoletes
a
whole
bunch
of
other
ones.
So
you
only
have
to
care
about.
You
know
the
latest
one
I'm
about
to
turn
it
over
to
karen.
So
I
just
wanted
any
other
questions
on
this
section.
A
I
think
we've
been
catching
them
as
we
go
great.
There
is
some
discussion
in
here
about
rough
consensus,
but
we
we've
talked
about
it
some,
so
I
think
we
can
get
back
to
it
at
the
end.
If
there's
any
more
questions
so
sure
all
right,
so
I'm
going
to
talk
about
basically
what
what
all
the
various
pieces
are.
That
happened
during
an
actual
ietf
week
and.
A
And
and
to
understand
this
gen,
this
is
what
often
that
goes
on
in
person
and
then
there's
going
to
be
some
variations
on
that,
because
we
are
currently
in
a
virtual
environment.
So,
basically
the
organized
events
during
the
agenda
would
be
your
working
group
sessions.
A
A
We
also
have
birds
of
a
feather
sessions
which
are
focused
on
specific,
bringing
new
work
to
the
ietf
or
one
time
topics.
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
those
later.
A
We
have
a
number
of
irtf
sessions
and
there's
a
little
bit
of
discussion
in
the
chat
about
that.
So
we
have
the
ietf,
which
is
the
engineering
task
force,
and
then
we
have
the
irtf,
which
is
the
research
task
force.
So
this
is
for
as
rich
indicated.
This
is
for
work.
A
Sometimes
there
is
something
called
the
hot
rfc
lightning
talks,
and
then
there's
also
side
meetings
and
open
time,
and
so
we'll
talk
about
each
of
these
in
a
little
bit
more
detail,
there's
a
number
of
things
that
generally
are
not
on
the
agenda,
including
your
hallway
meetings
bar
buffs,
which
are
basically
really
informal
meetings
where
you're
getting
your
colleagues
together
to
start
work.
Potentially,
you
know
that
will
eventually
turn
into
a
real
buff
and
then
editing
sessions.
A
There
is
an
app,
and
even
with
the
virtual
environment
that
we're
currently
in
the
app
has
been
updated
for
this
ietf
and
then.
Finally,
the
data
tracker
is
is
sort
of
the
it's
really
the
repository
of
all
the
ietf
documents
and
all
the
work.
And
so
you
really
want
to
pay
attention
to
the
agenda.
I
see
the
question
in
the
thing
about
irtf
sessions
and
they
are
also
part
of
the
ietf
agenda.
A
The
newcomer
overview-
and
this
is
one
of
those
and
also
some
meat-
echo
training
sessions-
are
being
held
this
week.
So
meat
echo
is
the
tool
that
we
use.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
later.
That's
the
tool
that
we
use
for
the
meeting
itself,
the
virtual
meeting-
and
there
are
some
training
sessions
for
participants
and
that'll
be
on
the
participants
guide.
A
I
believe
they
have
been
scheduled
at
this
point,
but
keep
an
eye
out
for
those
there
is
a
hackathon
and
it's
going
to
be
the
week
before
the
ietf
and
those
there's
some
more
information
about
that
later
on,
and
so
that's
actually
next
week
and
then
there's
newcomers
quick
connection
which
is
going
to
be
the
week
before
as
well.
A
We
made
the
decision
early
on
to
when
we
moved
to
virtual
meetings
to
keep
the
rough
time
frame
with
what
it
would
have
been
when
the
where
the
meeting
was
originally
hosted.
So
this
meeting
was
originally
planned
for
bangkok
and
thailand
and
therefore
it's
going
to
be
during
hours.
That
would
be
like
normal
working
hours
for
thailand.
So
it's
going
to
be
o
500
to
1100
utc.
A
As
I
already
mentioned,
all
of
the
session
information
will
be
linked
from
the
agenda
page.
There
are
informal
side
meetings
which
are
not
on
the
agenda
page
and
it's
on
the
side
meetings.
Anybody
can
request,
can
go
into
the
wiki
and
edit
it
and
and
schedule
a
side
meeting,
and
then
you
can
you're
free
to
announce
it
on
whatever
mailing
list
makes
sense.
A
So
if
you
know,
if
you
want
to
have
a
side
meeting,
for
example
in
you
know
a
side
meeting
on,
you
know
next
generation
ntp
security,
you
could
go
in
and
you
could
schedule
that
and
then
you'd
probably
want
to
announce
that
one
on
the
ntp
mailing
list
and
say
you
know,
hey,
I'm
going
to
have
a
side
meeting
come
join
me
and
here's
the
details
for
that.
A
All
of
the
information
on
how
to
partici
participate
is
here
and
this
session
participant
guide
is
where
you
will
find
the
links
for
the
meet
echo
training
sessions
that
will
be
held,
and
then
we've
already
talked
a
little
bit
about
this.
This
is
your
newcomer,
specific
activities,
so
the
bulk
of
the
ietf
is
obviously
all
the
working
groups.
A
Most
of
the
work
in
a
working
group
is
done
on
a
mailing
list
in
between
the
meetings,
face-to-face
meetings
or
or
you
know,
face-to-face
or
virtual
meetings
are
generally
focused
on
solving
key
issues.
So
a
lot
of
what
you'll
see
this
week
or
in
two
weeks
will
be
a
document
being
discussed
and
then
the
key
things
you
know.
A
The
key
issues
that
are
still
stumbling
blocks
is
what
will
be
discussed
not
like
an
overview
of
the
whole
document
itself
we
do
have
working
groups
can
also
have
virtual
interim
meetings
that
will
not
be
during
the
weeks
and
so,
for
example,
a
working
group,
I'm
involved
in
you
know
they
probably
meet
once
or
twice
between
every
full
itf
meeting
in
a
virtual
stand-alone
meeting,
and
you
can
find
a
list
of
all
of
the
virtual
meetings
that
are
coming
up
on
the
main
ietf
webpage
under
meetings.
A
A
working
group
will
have
a
charter
which
has
milestones,
and
it's
been
negotiated
with
the
area
director
and
approved
by
the
iesg,
so
the
birds
of
the
feather
sessions
there's
another
slide
later
on
that
specifically
talks
about
bringing
new
work
to
the
ietf,
but
generally
a
birdsville
feather
session.
A
Excuse
me
precedes
the
formation
of
a
working
group
and
it
usually
has
it's
usually
focused
on
questions
around
scope
and
focus
of
a
charter
and
whether
or
not
there
is
enough
critical
mass
within
the
ietf
to
pursue
a
new
work
item.
A
A
A
Reviews
all
of
them
and
approves
them
or
not,
and
you
can
request,
if
you're
interested
in
bringing
your
work,
you
can
actually
request
help
and
and
shepherding
about
through
the
process,
and
somebody
will
be
assigned
to
help
you
do
that.
A
The
irtf
is
officially
an
activity
of
the
iab
and
they
are
generally
as
I've
indicated,
they're
more
research
topics
versus
actual
engineering
topics.
All
irtf
meetings
at
an
ietf
are
open
meetings
and
this
rfc
7418
talks
a
great
deal
about
more
about
the
irtf.
A
Sometimes
an
area
will
have
like
the
transport
area
working
group
and
then
they'll
have
a
transport
area
meeting.
So
part
of
the
meeting
will
be.
You
know,
specific
work
items
that
have
been
accepted
for
the
work
for
the
working
group
for
the
transport
area,
working
group
and
then
it'll
have
general
topics.
A
We
have
two
types
of
plenaries,
and
sometimes
they
can
occur
together
and
sometimes
not
at
all.
Every
ietf
will
have
an
administrative
plenary,
and
this
is
where
we
go
through
the
basically
the
business
of
the
ietf
and
so
they'll
talk
about
the
budget.
They'll
talk
about
upcoming
meetings
and
it's
also
a
chance
for
the
ietf
community
to
ask
questions
of
all
of
the
iutf
leadership
bodies.
A
A
A
So
hackathons
and
code
sprints
hackathon,
is,
has
grown
into
a
large
activity
generally
the
weekend
before
the
ihf
at
physical
meeting,
where
any
group
that
a
group
of
people
that
are
interested
in
working
on
a
project
might
work
together
on
it
code.
Sprints
is
really
basically
the
same
thing
as
a
hackathon,
except
it
is
specifically
looked
at
looking
at
the
development
of
the
tools
that
the
ihf
uses.
A
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
the
hackathon,
so
the
hackathon
is
free
and
open
to
anybody
to
participate,
whether
you're
registered
for
the
ietf
or
not,
and
it's
intended
to
be
collaborative
and
working
towards
shared
goals
and
part
of
what
it's
trying
to
do
is
get
the
iatf
a
little
bit
back
to
its
roots.
On
you
know,
rough
consensus
in
running
code
and
sort
of
re-emphasizing
the
running
code
piece
of
it.
Some
of
this
might
be.
You
know
somebody
who
has
a
new
idea
for
something
that
might
eventually
become
a
standard.
A
Man
will
propose
a
project,
and
people
will
work
on
that
and
then
they
can
decide
whether
it's
something
that's
worth
pursuing
in
the
ietf
or
not.
It
might
also
be
a
working
group,
that's
currently
working
on
a
solution
to
something
and
they
can
use
the
hackathon
as
a
sort
of
a
feedback
mechanism
into
the
specification.
A
So
that
you,
you
know
you
do
some
implementation
work.
During
the
hackathon.
You
figure
out
where
the
holes
are
in
the
specification,
and
then
you
feed
that
back
into
the
working
group
and
the
working
group
improves
the
document
or
you
you
know,
thought
you
had
a
solution
correct
and
then
you
tried
to
implement
it,
and
you
realize
that
you
know
you
overlook
something,
and
then
you
can
update
your
that.
A
There's
additional
information
available
about
hackathons
at
this
link
and
obviously
the
the
hackathon
next
week
will
be
a
online
only
so
then
there's
networking
and
social
events,
so
we
don't
really
have
social
events
in
the
in
the
same
way.
In
the
in
a
virtual
meeting
as
we
do
in
a
physical
meeting,
we
do
have
a
a
social
platform
that
is
provides
a
little
bit.
A
A
virtual
version
of
you
know
what
is
often
called
the
hallway
track
and
rich
will
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
in
the
next
section,
using
a
tool
called
gather,
dot
town-
and
this
gives
you
an
opportunity
for
more
casual
interactions.
It
will
also
be
the
tool
that
we'll
be
using
for
the
newcomers,
quick
connections.
If
you
decide
to
come
to
that-
and
it's
basically,
you
know,
if
you
get
within
a
small
radius
of
people,
then
that
set
of
people
will
be
on
can
interact.
A
You
know
with
audio
and
video,
and
then
you
can
move
away
and
join
another
group
and
connect
to
that
group.
In
addition
to,
like
general
social
events,
there's
also
groups
of
people
and
the
picture
on
the
right
is
actually
an
organism.
An
informal
organization
called
sisters
which
is
for
to
help
develop
the
help,
provide
connectivity
and
networking
for
the
women
in
the
ietf,
and
so
generally
we
get
together
and
have
a
lunch
one
day
during
an
ietf
meeting.
A
So
talk
a
little
bit
about
general
meeting
etiquette,
as
I
mentioned
before,
working
groups
are
generally
when
you
come
to
an
ietf
meeting
and
you
step
into
a
working
group
for
the
first
time
you're
stepping
into
work.
That's
already
been
in
progress
for
a
while,
and
so
one
of
the
first
things
that
you
really
need
to
do
is
just
sort
of
read
the
documents
of
interest
before
the
working
group
session.
A
So
this
will
give
you
a
chance
of
understanding
and
participating
in
the
conversations
better,
as
always
behave
respectfully
and
tolerantly
towards
all
participants,
talk
and
listen
to
people
and
enjoy
yourself.
A
I'm
not
exactly
sure
how
remembering
to
sleep
applies
in
this
world,
but
in
this
virtual
environment,
but
there
you
have
it
so
for
the
online
version.
A
I
think
we're
we're
all
what
seven
or
eight
months
into
participating
in
virtual
meetings.
So
I
think
we
pretty
much
got
this
down
at
this
point,
but
you
want
to
practice
good
online
meeting
practices
test
your
configuration
in
advance,
the
ietf
does
use,
I
mean
we're
using
zoom
tonight,
but
we
do
use
a
custom
tool.
So
there's
a
lot
of
materials
available
to
help.
You
make
sure
that
you
can
use
that
tool
effectively.
A
A
One
is
to
you
need
to
find
some
collaborators
that
have
a
similar
interest,
because
one
of
the
keys
to
being
successful
in
the
ietf
is
to
have
something
that
has
support
from
multiple
constituencies.
A
A
A
I
see
a
question
in
there
about
what
is
a
barb
off
a
barb
off
is
a
birdsville
is
a
is
a
very
informal
gathering
before
you
have
any
official
meetings
and,
and
it's
called
a
barb
off
because
historically
you
know
it
was
kind
of
the
you
know,
there's
four
or
five
people
and
we're
really
interested
in
this
topic.
A
You
know
it's
it's
not
going
to
have
official
agenda
time,
but
it's
any
way
that
you
find
to
gather
collaborators
together
to
explore
your
your
idea
and
if
you
think
of
in
terms
of
you
know,
you
often
hear
stories
of
early
internet
technology
and-
and
you
know
a
couple
folks
sitting
in
a
bar
with
a
napkin
and
drawing
up
a
design
for
a
new
protocol.
That's
that's
the
the
idea
behind
to
barb
off.
A
Great
so
hold
the
buff
consent
and
then
consensus
will
determine
what
happens
as
a
result
of
the
buff.
There
is
a
a
whole
tutorial
on
bringing
new
work
to
the
ietf
and
here's
the
slides
in
the
video
for
that
tutorial.
A
So
now
we're
at
the
third
section.
I
think
we're
pretty
caught
up
on
questions
so
rich,
I'm
gonna
hand
it
back
to
you.
B
Okay,
great
yeah,
so
I'm
gonna
talk
about
some
of
the
key
people
and
roles
that
are
involved
just
some
general
information
and
tooling
that
party
that
we
haven't
already
covered
so
next
slide,
please.
B
So
the
first
group
of
people
is
obviously
us
those
of
us
who
are
participating.
That
would
be
all
of
you
folks
out
there,
karen
and
me
and
thousands
of
buckers
a
typical
ietf
person
will
have
you
know
a
thousand
people
in
a
hotel,
a
thousand
plus
people
in
a
hotel.
For
a
week
the
online
tend
to
have
several
hundred,
because
people
tend
to
drop
in
and
out
for
just
the
meetings
that
they
you
know
they
want
to
know.
As
karen
said,
the
people
are.
B
You
know
you
when
you
come
to
a
meeting
these,
the
people
have
been
working
on
it
between
meetings,
so
they're
passionate,
they're,
they're
vocal.
B
That
can
be
obnoxious,
but
that's
because
you
know
looking
at
the
bottom
right,
one
we've
known
each
other
for
a
long
time
and
we're
also
very
friendly
nobody's
caught
up
on
roles
and
titles.
Everybody
represents
themselves
as
an
individual.
B
So,
on
the
next
slide
I'll
talk
about
some
of
the
resources,
but
the
key
thing
is:
if
you
know
your
stuff,
if
you
know
the
technology
or
you're
willing
to
learn,
you
just
sit
back
and
watch
for
a
while.
That's
it
you're
part
of
the
group.
Don't
worry
about
it.
People
dress
comfortably,
but
you
know
business,
casual
or
sometimes
less,
but
you
know
they
dress.
We
talk
to
each
other
frankly
and
openly,
and
socializing
is
a
big
part
of
it,
which
obviously
takes
a
hit
during
these
times
next
slide.
Please.
B
So
looking
you
know,
we
said
the
the
organization
is,
you
know,
bottom
up
directed
in
terms
of
the
the
work
items
are
determined
by
the
people
who
want
to
work
on
them
either.
There's
a
working
group
for
it
or
there
is
a
birds
of
a
feather
bath
for
informal,
first
gatherings
to
do
it
and
then
the
layers
above
the
working
group
chairs
every
working
group
has
one
or
two
sometimes
three
chairs
whose
job
is
to
keep
the
process
flowing.
B
They're,
not
there
to
act
as
the
ultimate
technical
resources
for
the
working
group.
If
a
working
group
chair
wants
to
say
something,
they'll
sort
of
say,
okay
speaking
is
an
individual
or
the
common
phrase.
It
uses
with
no
hats,
meaning
I
take
off
the
hat
that
says,
I'm
a
chair,
and
now
I'm
speaking
as
an
individual.
I
think
we
should
do
this
working
groups
organized
as
I
showed
earlier
into
areas,
so
the
area
directors
will
typically
attend.
B
Employee
of
cisco,
and
if
you
have
a
problem
and
you
don't
think
that
the
process
is
being
followed
or
you
think
that
you're
not
getting
proper
recognition
for
something
that
you've
contributed
or
that
people
aren't
listening
to
you
start
with
the
working
group
chairs.
If
the
working
chairs
are,
you
know
not
going
well
speak
to
the
area
director
and,
ultimately,
you
could
speak
to
alyssa.
B
We
want
to
stop
it
as
low
on
the
totem.
You
know
as
low
in
the
process
as
possible.
Next
slide.
Please.
B
Jay
is
the
you
know:
he
we're
a
volunteer
organization.
Jay
is
a
paid
employee,
professional
who
handles
survey,
tabulation
negotiating
with
hotels,
negotiating
with
contractors
who
do
the
tooling
and
so
on,
all
around
nice
guy.
Even
if
he's
from
you
know
new
zealand,
okay,
next
slide,
please
and
I'm
just
joking.
I
just
like
the
secretariat.
B
These
people,
mostly
women-
you
can
see
them
here
it
like
at
the
beginning
of
the
week,
they're
all
in
blue
on
friday,
when
the
thing
ends
they're
all
wearing
hawaiian
shirts.
They
handle
the
registration,
they
handle
meeting
conflicts
they
handle.
They
run
some
of
the
iesg
meetings.
For
example,
they
run
some
of
the
other
meetings,
such
as
they
take
the
minutes.
For
example,
when
we
were
having
the
karen
and
I
were
meeting
with
secretariat
and
some
of
the
other
people
to
plan
the
newcomers.
Events
these
folks
take
minutes,
keep
it
all
on
track.
B
The
rfc
editor
and
the
instep,
so
the
rc
editor
also
called
the
rpc
rfc
production
center.
They
edit
they
do
the
final
copy
editing
on
the
documents
make
sure
everything
is
clear.
All
the
eyes
are
dotted.
The
t's
are
crossed
that
the
graphics
translate
if
there's
any
and
that
the
references
to
other
rfcs
are
all
handled.
B
So
if
we
say
in
rfc
this
rfc
obsoletes
that
one,
then
they
go
back
and
change
it
so
that
the
old
one
says
obsoleted
by
the
new
one
they're
great
ayanna
many
rfcs
have
spaces
in
them
for
expansion,
let's
call
it
where,
for
example,
dns
we'll
say
here's
a
query
and
you
might
know
a
or
quad
a
forays
is
a
general
address.
B
B
B
Next
slide
the
ombuds
team:
if
something
goes
wrong
on
a
personal
level,
as
opposed
to
like
a
process
or
a
technical
level,
we
don't
we
don't
tolerate
harassment
or
harassment,
we
don't
allow
it.
We
dislike
it
and
we
will,
you
know,
tell
people
remove
people
from
mailing
lists
and
so
on.
If
they
are
doing
these
kinds
of
things,
these
three
people,
allison,
pete
and
melinda
pete-
is
obviously
the
one
in
the
middle.
B
We
have
an
at
the
harassment
policy
and
if
you
feel
that
you're
being
harassed
or
if
you
notice
that
someone
is
writing,
really
objectionable
material
to
you
personally,
contact
them
and
there's
an
roc
for
it,
you
can
contact
these
people,
you
can
look
them
up
in
the
data
tracker
and
find
their
addresses
and
so
on.
We
hope
it
doesn't
happen.
B
The
number
of
incidents
where
this
happens
is
very,
very
small,
but
we
want
to
make
sure
that
we're
really
you
know,
welcoming
and
open
to
all
without
fear
next
slide,
so
new
newcomers
resources
the
dao
of
the
ietf.
This
is
an
old
historic
document.
It
was
just
recently
refreshed
by.
I
think
niels.
B
That
explains
the
way
the
ietf
and
is
full
of
you
know
not
too
many
zen
cones,
but
things
like
rough
consensus
and
running
code
and
so
on.
It's
a
fairly
short
read.
It's
good.
I
think
you've
seen
the
newcomers
page
about
three
times
so
far,
plus
you've
also
gotten
in
mail
karen
mentioned
in
the
past.
We've
had
technical
tutorials.
B
This
tutorial
will
show
up
in
video
at
some
point,
it's
being
recorded
and
uploaded
to
youtube
later
on,
so
you
can
see
the
other
tutorials
are
available
and
for
the
most
part
many
of
them
are
still
applicable
and
interesting.
The
service
discovering
services
through
dns
tricks
was
done
by
apple,
is
very
cool.
B
Next
slide,
so
more
meeting
resources.
There
is
a
first
time
attendees
mailing
list,
that's
the
page
to
the
archive
and
the
list
feel
free
to
join
it.
The
sisters
group
for
for
women
or
those
who
present
as
women
a
socially
oriented
thing,
but
also
designed
to
be
a
welcoming
space
for
you
know
to
help.
B
A
welcoming
space
forward
leave
it
at
that.
There
are
many
meeting
lists.
Many
mailing
lists
about
meetings,
socialist
travel
companions
that
tends
to
not
be
that
important
in
these
virtual
days.
B
B
Next
slide,
please:
okay,
the
data
tracker,
so
that's
name
there
in
the
upper
left
and
the
picture
screenshot
is
in
the
right,
also
known
as
dt,
so
abbreviated
dt.ietf.org.
B
This
has
pages
for
this
handles
the
workflow
and
the
document
storage
for
our
for
the
ietf.
So
you
see
on
the
right
here
the
tls
working
group
there's
tabs
for
about
that
would
be
the
general
discussion
documents.
This
is
the
drafts
that
are
currently
being
worked.
What
the
status
is
when
we
meet
and
what
the
minutes
are
and
the
slides
are
and
so
on,
history
of
various
other
documents,
and
if
the
list
archive
is
the
not
unintuitively
named
one
that
gets
you
to
the
mailing
list.
B
The
most
important
url
construct
is
dt.ietef.org,
slash,
wg
and
then
the
working
group
abbreviation
tls,
slash,
wg,
slash,
ntp
and
so
on.
The
tools
page
has
a
bunch
of
links
and
tools
and
text
for
helping
produce
drafts
document
them
produce
drafts,
sorry
format
them
and
so
on.
You
won't
need
that
at
first
at
the
start,
but
the
data
tracker
is
definitely
a
way
to
start
up.
You
can
say,
oh
I'm
interested
in
this
group
and
when
you
look
at
the
agenda,
there'll
be
a
link
for
every
working
group
that
points
to
its
data.
B
B
When
we
meet
in
person
it
starts
with,
they
have
video
cameras
set
up
in
the
back
of
the
room
and
mics,
and
the
stuff
is
broadcast
over
the
internet
in
real
time.
There's
also
recordings
made,
it
has
the
messaging
system,
jabber
or
known
as
xmpp
built
in
it,
has
the
ability
to
handle
people
who
are
presenting
remotely.
B
Obviously
we
all
are
now
so
it's
like
you
know.
These
are
the
four
folks
who
have
you
know
are
key
in
it.
Tobiah
is
the
guy
karen
and
I've
spent
the
most
time
with
because
he
generally
handles
all
of
the
newcomers
webinars.
B
Since
this
is
a
newcomers
session,
we
made
the
decision
to
switch
to
zoom
because
we
figured
people.
Newcomers
are
probably
more
familiar
with
that
than
the
ietf
tool.
There
are
practice
sessions
available
and
there's
a
session
participant
guide
which
shows
how
to
use
the
tool
there
is.
B
B
When
you
get
two
people
together,
videos
of
the
people
participating
show
up
at
the
top
and
you
can
talk
and
you
can
hear-
and
it's
next
best
thing
to
being
there.
The
newcomers
tutorial
the
newcomers
meet
and
greet
will
happen
in
here.
You'll
see
email
coming
from
the
itf,
either
to
the
all
participants
and
also
the
newcomers
mailing
list
about.
You
know
what
the
links
are
and
how
to
join.
You
know
gather
dot,
town,
slash
something
or
other
I
don't
know,
but
I
was
impressed
it's
more
fun
than
I
thought.
B
Not
as
good
as
animal
crossing,
but
still
good,
so
we
use
xmpp,
there's
an
rfc
about
describes
it.
It
is
a
instant
messaging
protocol,
we're
trying
to
figure
out
what
to
do
we'll
have
experiments
up
that
use
other
things
like
slack
or
zulip,
or
I
forget
what
the
third
one
is
so
there'll
be
email
about
that,
but
pardon
me
yeah,
so
watch
watch
email
for
those
things
next
slide,
above
all
else,
have
a
good
time.
B
I
know
almost
all
the
people
in
these
pictures.
By
now
this
was
a
the
middle
one
with
the
fireworks
was
pretty
impressive,
that
was
in
prague,
where
they
did
a
really
impressive
social
event
that
had
fireworks,
which
was
cool
okay,
so
we're
just
about
out
of
time.
In
fact
we're
just
about
to
go
over.
B
If
you
have
other
questions,
you
can
come
to
the
next
webinar,
otherwise
email,
the
edu-team
at
itf.org,
and
thank
you
for
your
time.
If
there's
any
last-minute
questions,
we
can
stay
for
a
minute
or
two
otherwise,
we'll
end
more
or
less
on
time.
A
Yes,
thank
you,
everybody
for
coming,
and
yes,
the
next
webinar
will
be
the
same
topics.
It's
the
same
presentation.
Actually,
so
we
do
it
two
different
times
to
accommodate
people
in
different
time
zones.
A
There
will
also
be
a
slack
channel
and
we
will
add
that
it's
not
currently
in
the
documentation,
but
there
will
be
a
newcomers
channel
as
part
of
our
slack
channel
space
and
you'll.
Be
able
to
ask
me
for
my
questions
there
during
the
week.
B
Okay,
thank
you
very
much
and
hope
to
see
you
around
online
in
a
couple
weeks.
A
And
thank
you
very
much
for
attending.
Everybody
have
a
good.