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From YouTube: IETF112-HACKATHON-20211101-1500
Description
HACKATHON meeting session at IETF112
2021/11/01 1500
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/112/proceedings/
A
A
Okay,
hello,
everyone
good
to
see.
We
have
a
number
of
people
joining
already
welcome
to
the
hackathon,
we're
going
to
give
it
a
few
more
minutes
just
to
let
people
get
logged
in
successfully
to
meet
techo
for
some
people.
This
may
be
their
first
time
attending
the
hackathon
or
attending
this
way
and
can
take
a
little
while
to
get
things
set
up
correctly,
not
to
mention
the
the
time
changes
and
hopefully
that
all
of
you
are
here.
A
So
that's
a
good
sign,
but
I
know
with
europe
switching
their
clocks
on
a
different
schedule
from
say
the
us
that
just
adds
a
little
bit
of
extra
confusion.
So,
if
you're
here,
congratulations
that
you've
navigated,
all
that
correctly,
hopefully
others
will
as
well
and
we'll
get
started
in
just
a
few
minutes.
A
A
Okay,
hello,
again,
everyone,
I
think
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started.
I
study
a
few
people
are
still
joining,
but
you
know
in
the
interest
of
everyone's
time
now.
This
may
be
a
very
challenging
time
for
you
to
join,
and
my
apologies
for
that.
A
But
thanks
for
being
here-
and
you
know,
this
session
is
really
meant
to
be
quite
informal-
I'm
going
to
run
through
some
slides,
but
it's
mainly
to
share
some
information,
get
questions
answered
that
you
may
have
and
so
feel
free
to
jump
in
using
the
chat
at
any
time.
We
don't
have
a
huge
number
of
people,
at
least
not
yet.
A
So
it's
also
fine
for
you
to
just
jump
in
using
the
mic,
either
way
make
sure
you
just
get
my
attention
or
berries
and
we'll
do
what
we
can
to
help
answer
your
questions,
and
you
know
if
I
go
over
something
too
quick
feel
free
to
stop
me
at
any
time.
This
session
is,
is
really
here
for
all
of
you.
A
It
shouldn't
take
anywhere
near
the
full
hour,
but
we
can
always
spend
time
diving
into
topics
and
at
the
end,
if
anyone
wants
to
share
a
bit
of
more
information
about
the
project,
I
know
you
may
be
leading
a
project
and
if
so,
thanks
for
doing
that
and
there's
a
lot
of
information
on
the
wiki
as
we'll
show
but
I'll
invite
you
to
say
a
few
words
about
your
project
as
well,
if
you'd
like
to
so
with
that,
let
me
let
me
go
ahead
and
jump
in
so
for
those
of
you
who
have
this
is
your
first
hackathon
or
perhaps
you've
only
attended
recently
and
experienced
online
hackathons.
A
This
is
more
what
a
typical
ietf
hackathon,
where
we
are
able
to
meet
in
person,
looks
like,
in
fact,
this
is
one
of
our
our
biggest
and
best.
We
had,
if
you
can
believe
it
close
to
400
people
in
the
room
at
one
time,
which
actually
was
a
problem
in
and
of
itself,
but
it
was
great
to
see
and
the
dynamics
are
a
bit
different.
A
Now,
with
people
spread
over
geographies
and
time
zones,
we
still
have
a
lot
of
great
participation,
which
is
fantastic,
but
but
you
know
we
meet
online
and
there's
a
lot
more.
Flexibility.
B
A
The
schedule
as
to
exactly
how
you
go
about
doing
that,
so
in
order
to
help
with
meeting
online,
we
have
some
great
tools.
First
of
all,
this
new
techo
tool
that
we're
using
right
now
to
to
do
this
kickoff,
but
also,
if
you
haven't,
checked
out
gather
yet
I
highly
recommend
that
we'll
be
making
use
of
the
gather
space.
What
you
see
up
on
the
screen
and
I'll
go
into
it
in
a
bit
more
detail
later
on
is
a
bit
of
the
ietf
sorry
of
the
hackathon
space,
and
we
just
have
tables
there.
A
Much
like
you
saw
in
the
previous
slide,
where
people
can
arrange,
teams
can
arrange
around
the
table
and
just
to
facilitate
chatting
and
working
within
your
team.
So
you
know
if
you
haven't,
checked
out
that
space,
yet
I
recommend
you
do
by
the
way
these
slides
are
uploaded.
You'll
see,
there's
a
lot
of
links
in
here.
You
can
click
on
them
to
to
get
directly
to
a
lot
of
the
things
that
I'm
showing
in
this
presentation.
A
First
of
all,
I
should
probably
step
back
a
little
bit,
especially
for
those
of
you
who
haven't
been
to
many
of
these
hackathons.
Really.
Why
are
we
here
and
what's
the
whole
goal
with
these,
and
the
idea
is
to
really
accelerate
the
work
we're
doing
in
the
ietf
around
standards
by
by
taking
some
of
that
speed
and
collaborative
spirit
that
we
see
with
open
source
and
bringing
it
into
standards,
not
that
it
wasn't
there
before.
A
But
you
know
that
this
is
a
a
new
way
or
a
way
to
engage
with
more
people
around
more
than
just
what's
written
down
in
the
specifications,
but
ideally
working
on
code.
That
has
some
correlation
to
what
we're
standardizing
to
help
make
the
standards
better
and
and
easier
to
implement
and
more
accessible
to
developers
and
others
in
general,
and
also
to
just
attract
more
people.
A
People
who
might
not
have
considered
themselves
standards
people
until
they
realize
that
hey
there's
a
lot
of
great
software
development
that
goes
along
with
it
and
perhaps
that's
more
the
angle
in
which
they
choose
to
and
enjoy
participating
in
the
ietf.
And
we
welcome
you
and
encourage
you
to
get
involved
and-
and
we
have
a
great
mix
of
people
in
the
ietf,
with
different
experiences
and
and
the
hackathon
is
a
great
way
to
connect
and
collaborate
with
people.
A
So
the
the
notewell
all
of
what
we
do
within
the
ietf
we
follow
the
rules
are
are
under
the
rules
of
the
note.
Well,
if
you
haven't
taken
a
look
at
that,
yet
it's
a
good
thing
to
to
have
a
look
at
it.
You
can
see
several
bcps
referenced
there,
a
lot
of
it's
sort
of
common
sense,
but
a
lot
of
it's
very
good
to
keep
in
mind,
especially
in
terms
of
your
contributions
to
the
ietf
and
what
that
means
in
terms
of
perhaps
patents,
copyrights,
ipr,
those
types
of
things.
A
However,
one
of
the
things
I
like
to
point
out
is
that
when
you're
working
in
the
hackathon
you're
typically
working
on
code-
and
there
should
be
a
license
associated
with
that
code,
and
so
the
code
that
you're
actually
working
on
is
probably
not
in
and
of
itself
an
ietf
contribution,
rather
it's
it's
governed
by
the
the
license
that
is
in
place
and
the
example
I
show
here
it's
under
the
apache
2.0
license,
which
is
a
common
open
source
license.
A
However,
when
we
do
have
the
presentations
on
friday
and
you're
presenting
what
you
did
in
your
project
now
those
are
itf
contributions
as
usual
as
if
you
made
one
in
a
working
group
session
as
an
example.
A
A
Okay,
now
just
a
reminder
about
inclusive
language.
This
is
this
is
important
in
that
you
know
we
all
come
from
different
backgrounds
and
have
have
different
experience.
We
want
to
make
this
a
very
welcoming
place
and
a
very
safe
place
and
a
friendly
place
for
for
people
to
work.
So
you
know
we
tend
to
have
a
lot
of
fun
and
make
jokes
in
that,
but
just
be
sensitive
to
other
people
who
who
may
come
from
a
different
background,
and
you
know
we
really
want
to
welcome
everyone.
A
If
and
so
just
keep
that
in
mind,
let's,
let's
participate
civilly
and
and
when
we
have
differences
in
opinion,
let's
just
be
respectful
on
how
we
deal
with
those
historically,
the
hackathon's
been
a
great
venue
for
that.
So
I
absolutely
expect
that
to
continue,
but
it
also
doesn't
help
to
or
it
doesn't
hurt
to
show
the
reminder.
A
Okay,
I
mentioned
projects
at
the
beginning
and
we
have
a
great
list
of
projects
and
what
I'm
showing
right
now
is
a
snapshot
of
the
wiki.
If
you
go
there,
you'll
see
all
of
the
projects
that
we
have
planned
for
the
hackathon
and
the
people
who
we
call
champions
who
are
actually
leading
those
projects
have
put
together
some
really
nice
information
that
helps
you
have
a
better
understanding
both
of
what
the
project
is
and
then
how
to
reach
out
to
them.
A
If
you
want
to
participate,
and
so
now
or
after
this
session
is
over,
if
you
haven't
already
is
a
great
time
to
engage
with
those
those
champions
and
just
you
know
start
discussing
with
them
about
how
you
can
be
involved
in
the
project,
if
you're,
not
sure
which
project
to
join
something
you
might
want
to
check
out.
Is
this
lost
and
found
area?
And
what
we
did
was
we
put
this
together
as
a
place
where,
let's
say,
you're
you're
you?
A
These
are
things
I
can
help
you
out
with
if
your
project
needs
them
on
the
flip
side,
if
you're
leading
a
project-
and
you
really
need
some
a
certain
skill
set
or
someone
with
that
that
skill
set
to
help
you
with
your
project,
you
can
also
sort
of
advertise
that
need
here,
so
the
lost
and
found
is
to
help
match
up
people
with
projects
a
little
bit
better,
and
so
we,
you
know
clear
it
out
at
the
start
of
each
hackathon,
you'll
probably
see
there
isn't
too
much
information
there,
but
you
know
feel
free
and
don't
be
nervous
about
adding
your
information
there.
A
Now
the
the
agenda,
we're
we're
doing
the
kickoff
right
now.
As
I
said,
it
shouldn't
take
the
whole
hour,
but
we
should
in
any
case
certainly
finish
within
the
hour
and
then
really.
The
whole
week
is
just
up
to
the
individual
projects
to
decide
how
and
when
to
meet-
and
we
did
this
because
of
time
zones
and
realizing
that
it
could
be
very
challenging
for
people
to
meet
at
specific
times.
A
So
the
team
schedule
that
you
see
a
picture
of
in
the
links
there
as
well
is
the
way
that
we
help
organize
that
if
you
enter
into
the
team
schedule
the
times
and
the
ways
that
your
specific
project
team
wants
to
meet,
that
can
really
help
everyone
within
the
team
and
even
some
new
people
that
you
might
not
have
been
aware
of
that
wanted
to
work
with
you
now.
A
Engage
with
you,
so
I
highly
recommend
project
champions.
If
you
haven't
yet
get
your
information
up
there.
Those
participating
in
projects
take
a
look
because
that's
a
good
way
to
figure
out
how
to
get
involved
and
then,
at
the
same
time,
that
this
session
started.
We
have
the
hackathon
closing
on
friday
and
that's
really
probably
one
of
the
most
interesting
parts
of
the
hackathon.
A
That's
when
all
of
the
teams
come
together
to
share
what
it
was
that
you
you
actually
accomplished
during
this
hackathon
now,
because
we
have
many
teams,
we
keep
those
presentations
very
short,
but
this
is
a
great
time
for
you
to
to
share
that
information,
and
so
we
have
it
scheduled
for
two
hours
on
friday,
starting
at
the
same
time
that
we
started
here
at
1500,
utc
and
ending
at
1700.,
so
mark
that,
on
your
calendars
now,
you'll
see
that
there
is
a
schedule
for
the
results
presentation
and
what
that
schedule
is.
A
If
you
click
on
that
link,
you'll
be
able
to
if
you're
leading
a
project
team
or
the
one
presenting
on
behalf
of
our
project
team,
you
can
sign
up
to
say.
Yeah.
I'd
like
to
you
know
present
our
results
during
that,
and
that
way
we
get
a
list
of
all
the
teams,
and
everyone
else
knows
what
they're
going
to
hear
if
they,
if
they
sign
into
this
results
presentation.
A
So
if
you
plan
on
sharing
results
on
friday-
and
it
doesn't
matter
if
you
didn't
accomplish
everything
you
wanted
to
just
you
know,
share
what
you
did
do
and
what
you
did
learn.
So,
if
you're
interested
in
doing
that,
I
encourage
you
to
add
your
team
name
to
the
results
presentation
as
soon
as
possible.
A
And
robert
you
mentioned,
it
would
be
nice
to
get
an
ics
off
the
team
schedule
page
yeah,
that's
that
is
a
good
point
yeah.
We
could
certainly
try
that,
and
one
of
the
challenges
is
the
the
list
of
teams
is
constantly
updating,
but
I
guess
it's
not
too
different
than
an
agenda
for
a
meeting
so
yeah
with
that.
That's
actually
a
great
idea
we'll
have
to
look
into
that
and
if
you
can
help
make
that
happen,
robert
that'd
be
great.
A
A
The
space
for
for
this
ietf
meeting
ietf112
is
a
little
bit
a
little
bit
updated
and
hopefully,
in
some
really
nice
ways.
What
you
see
here
is
kind
of
the
the
main
area
when
you
first
enter
the
ietf
hackathon
space
and
there's
something
called
the
mini
map
that
lets
you
kind
of
see
a
high-level
view
of
the
whole
space,
and
that's
what
I've
done
here.
You
can
see
the
arrows
pointing
to
the
to
the
right
near
the
bottom
of
the
page,
leading
you
to
the
hackathon
space.
A
Project
teams,
if
you
want
to
you're,
welcome
to
kind
of
use
those
tables.
If
you
want
to
meet
there
when
your
team
is
working
say:
oh
you
know
such
and
such
project
team
we're
going
to
meet
at
table
c
at
you
know:
1400
utc
to
1600
utc,
whatever
works
for
you,
and
then
you
know
you
can
gather
around
that
table.
You'll
see
that
you're
able
to
enter
into
an
audio
and
video
conference
with
each
other.
A
The
white
board,
which
you
see
on
the
right
hand,
side
you
can
see
it
kind
of
lit
up
in
yellow.
Similarly,
on
the
left
hand
side,
you
can
see
a
notepad
on
table
c,
that's
lit
up
in
yellow.
You
can
interact
with
that,
so
your
team
can
share
a
notepad
which
is
powered
by
hedgedock
or
one
of
these
whiteboards
that's
built
into
the
gather
space.
So
that's
a
nice
way
for
your
team
to
collaborate
as
well,
and
I
encourage
you
to
try
that
out
and
make
use
of
it.
A
You
know
make
it
a
little
bit
easier
for
for
your
team
to
collaborate
on
things,
of
course,
if
you're
using
zoom
or
webex
or
whatever
your
video
conference,
another
video
conferencing
system-
that's
fine,
too,
but
all
of
that's
also
built
in
together,
and
I
encourage
you
to
check
it
out
and
see
what
works
best
for
your
team.
A
So
some
of
you
may
have
seen
michael
was
mentioning
this
at
the
beginning
of
the
call,
as
we
were
waiting
for
people
to
join
the
ietf
vpn
network,
which
is
we
call
hacknet,
and
what
that
is.
Is
you
know?
Many
of
you,
of
course,
are
working
on
ietf
protocols,
oftentimes,
it's
very
important
for
you
to
be
on
a
shared
network,
maybe
a
shared
like
l2
network.
A
Now
I
mentioned
the
results
presentations,
and
this
is
one
of
my
favorite
parts
of
the
hackathon,
even
though
it
comes
near
the
end,
and
I'm
always
a
little
sad
for
the
hackathon
to
end,
but
it's
fantastic
to
see
what
people
did,
and
so
this
is
where
we
share
just
some
of
the
highlights
of
our
project
what
it
was
we
were
trying
to
do
what
actually
got
accomplished,
what
things
we
learned
around
along
the
way,
perhaps
some
important
things
that
your
team
wants
to
bring
back
into
your
working
group
related
to
things
you
discovered
about
the
draft
you
were
trying
to
implement
or
the
protocol
that
your
group
is
standardizing,
so
those
are
fantastic
learnings
to
take
away
from
the
hackathon.
A
That's
really
one
of
the
big
goals
of
it.
We
also
like
to
know
about
collaboration
that
happened
like
perhaps
your
your
your
project
was
really
about
a
protocol,
that's
being
worked
on
in
one
specific
working
group,
but
maybe
you
interacted
with
people
from
other
working
groups
or
maybe
even
from
people
outside
of
the
ietf,
maybe
from
open
source
communities
or
another
standards
organization.
A
Those
types
of
things
are
really
great
to
see
and
the
hackathon
helps
foster
that
type
of
collaboration,
and
you
know
beyond
just
the
the
regular
work
group
collaboration,
and
so
we
like
to
hear
about
that
as
well,
although
we
also
it's
very
important
to
keep
these
presentations
short
and
I'll
stress
this
again
on
friday.
But
I
wanted
to
make
that
point
now,
five
minutes
at
the
very
most,
because
we
do
have
a
number
of
them
to
get
through.
We
only
have
two
hours
again.
A
It
could
be
a
very
inconvenient
time
for
a
lot
of
people,
so
you
know
whether
we
woke
up
early
or
we're
staying
up
late.
So
we
want
to
value
people's
time,
and
the
idea
is
that
it's
a
short
presentation,
so
people
at
least
understand
what
you
did
and
then
they
can
always
reach
out
to
you
later
that
day,
the
next
week
whenever
and
get
a
deeper
dive
into
what
you
did.
A
A
If
you
need
or
would
like
to
have
a
repository
created
for
your
project
for
sharing
code,
let
me
know
I
can
get
that
created
for
you,
but
it's
also
within
this
itf
hackathon
github
org
is
where
we
keep
our,
where
we
upload
the
project
presentations
that
we'll
be
doing
on
friday.
A
It's
ietf
112
project
presentations
and,
if
you
click
into
that,
you'll
find
a
readme
that
gives
you
a
lot
of
great
information
about
how
to
get
first
of
all
like
if,
if
you're
going
to
upload
a
project
presentation
into
that
repository,
you
need
to
be
a
member
of
the
ietf
github
organization
and
so
sign
up
now,
get
yourself
added
as
a
member
and
then
once
you're
added
as
a
member
you'll
have
right
access
to
that
repository
and
that
way
you'll
be
independently
able
to
upload
and
update
your
presentation
there.
A
For
those
of
you
who
are
familiar
with
github,
you
might
think,
oh,
why
don't
I
just
send
charles
or
barry?
Why
don't
I
send
a
pull
request
and
they
can?
They
can
add
it
in
and
that's
true,
but
in
general
there's
a
lot
going
on
with
the
hackathon
and
you
may
send
a
pull
request
and
we
might
not
get
to
it
in
time
and
then
your
presentation
won't
be
there.
So
what
we
prefer
to
do
is
set
you
up
as
a
member,
and
that
way
you
can
be
responsible
for
getting
your
own
presentation
there.
A
Now,
since
we
we
make
a
lot
of
different
people,
members
and
and
there's
privileges
that
go
with
that,
we
also,
as
we
should
be,
are
worried
about
security.
A
So
we
we
ask
that
you,
you
enable
two-factor
authentication
on
your
github
account
and
also
to
make
it
just
easier
for
us
to
know
who's.
Who
make
sure
you
add
your
name
to
your
github
account.
A
lot
of
us
have
sort
of
a
cryptic,
say
username,
as
we
do
with
perhaps
our
emails,
but
add
your
the
name
by
which
you're
known
as
well.
That
really
helps
so
that
we're
able
to
find
each
other
and
know
who
each
other
is
and
get
done.
A
Now,
to
help
with
the
results
presentations,
we
put
together
a
couple
templates,
one
in
powerpoint
format,
if
you're
comfortable
with
doing
powerpoint
presentations,
the
other
one
is
an
html
html
format
and
you
can
use
either
one
and
then
use
that
to
both
kind
of
format.
A
Your
presentation
and
just
you
know,
get
it
started
as
you
typically
would
with
that
template
for
anything.
Of
course,
you're
completely
free
to
not
use
those
templates.
You
can
you
can
do
the
presentation
on
your
own,
using
whatever
format
you
want.
Just
keep
in
mind.
Those
questions
are
those
things
that
I
said
we
like
to
highlight
what
it
was.
You
were
trying
to
do
what
you
accomplished,
what
you
learned
along
the
way
and
some
interesting
highlights
about-
perhaps
things
you're
going
to
bring
back
into
your
working
group.
A
So
that's
important
that
you
have
the
right
information
in
there.
Hopefully,
the
templates
useful
and
helpful
to
you,
but
whatever
works
best
for
you,
you're
free
to
do
and
then
on
friday,
when
we
do
the
results
presentation.
A
Typically,
we
have
you
present
your
own
presentation,
you'll
be
able
to
come
on,
share
your
audio
and
video
and
and
then
walk
through
your
slides,
each
team
kind
of
presents
their
own
presentation
and
barry,
and
I
will
help
you
with
that.
A
A
You
know
there
are
still
expenses,
even
though
it
we're
meeting
virtually
they're
a
little
bit
different
than
a
lot
different
than
when
we
meet
in
person.
But
we
still
need
that
support
to
keep
everything
make
all
these
great
tools
available
and
so
cnn
thanks
to
them
for
for
helping
for
sponsoring
us
so
that
we
could
have
this
hackathon.
A
And
so
with
that
I
know
I
went
through
a
lot
of
information
quickly.
I
hope
it
was
useful,
very
happy
to
have
any
questions
that
you
haven't
had
answered.
Yet
if
anyone
has
those-
and
the
other
thing
think
about
is
if
there
aren't
any
questions,
then
I'd
also
encourage
any
of
you
who
want
to
say
a
few
words
about
your
project.
You
can
do
that
now
to
help
others
just
know
what
it
is:
you're
planning
on,
doing
and
and
share
that
information.
That's
perfectly
fine
as
well.
A
I
know
one
thing
I
forgot
to
mention
is
barry
my
co-chair
and
I
will
be
online.
You
know
as
best
we
can.
You
can
find
us
in
gather.
We
have
a
the
alias
hackathon
chairs
at
ietf.org.
A
You
can
send
us
an
email
and
we'll
try
to
get
an
answer
to
you.
Of
course,
we
won't
be
online
and
monitoring
those
things
24
7,
but
but
we'll
do
what
we
can
and
try
to
help
you
get
your
your
questions
answered
if
anything
pops
up
during
the
the
course
of
the
week.
A
And
lars
I
see
you're
in
the
queue
yeah
go
ahead.
B
Yeah
hi,
I
don't
have
a
question.
I
just
wanted
to
say.
Thank
you
guys
for
showing
up
for
this.
The
virtual
hackathon
is
not
quite
the
same
as
the
in-person
event,
and
it's
really
good
to
see
that
we
have
many
participants
again
and
thanks
charles
and
barry
for
running
it
in
the
virtual
format
as
well
and
we're
all
hoping
that
we
could
be
back
in
person
again
soon
yeah
yeah.
I.
A
A
real
collection
of
them
from
all
the
hackathons
that
have
happened
in
the
past
and
it's
yeah
certainly
pros
and
cons.
I
think
a
lot
more
pros
in
person,
but
but
yeah
great
to
do
what
we
can,
and
there
are
some
benefits
that
we
you
know
we
have
the
whole
week
and
a
lot
more
flexibility
and
and
a
lot
more
space
too.
So,
let's
we'll
take
the
good
with
the
bad
but
yeah
thanks
for
that
lars.
A
Otherwise,
I'll
I'll,
let
let
those
of
you
who
it's
very
late,
go
to
sleep
and
those
of
you
who
it's
early,
get
that
next
cup
of
coffee
and-
and
we
have
a
lot
of
coding
to
do
so
I'll.
Let
you
get
to
it
enjoy
we'll
be
here
to
help
during
the
week
again
make
sure
that
you
take
a
look
at
the
wiki.
All
the
links
are
there
and
important
things
are
if
you're
going
to
share
a
results.
A
Presentation
get
yourself
signed
up
on
the
list
for
for
friday,
when
we
have
that
results,
presentation,
scheduling,
page
and
get
yourself
added
to
the
ietf,
github
repo
and
sorry
the
the
itf
hackathon
github.org
and
again
I'll
help
you
with
that.
If
you
have
any
problems
with
it,.
A
And
okay,
great
one
last
chance
if
there's
any
other
questions,
otherwise,
we'll
end
this
and
and
all
we'll
post
the
recording
once
it's
available.
A
And
thanks
to
muteco
folks,
I
really
liked
this
ability
to
show
the
slides
and
without
having
to
you
know,
have
them
appear
in
full
screen
without
having
it
take
over
my
full
screen.
When
I
I
make
powerpoint
when
I
run
it
in
presentation
mode,
this
was
fantastic.