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From YouTube: IETF113-PLENARY-20220323-1600
Description
PLENARY meeting session at IETF113
2022/03/23 1600
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/113/proceedings/
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It
is
the
mic
on
its
own.
Please
please
come
in
and
take
a
seat
and
the
mic
is
really
on.
Welcome
everybody
yeah,
my
name
is
liz
eckhart.
I
chaired
the
ihf
since
a
year
ago,
it's
very
very
nice
to
see
all
of
you
here
in
person.
It
really
feels
like
an
itf
meeting,
although,
as
you
probably
can
realize
we're
not
quite
at
the
usual
bench
strength,
but
it
does
feel
really
good.
It
really
feels
like
it's
been
a
long
time.
D
It's
been
way
too
long,
and
I
also
hope
the
remote
participants
will
have
a
chance
to
join
us
again
at
some
time
in
the
future,
hopefully
in
philadelphia
or
in
london
later
in
the
year
or
at
any
other
time,
and
we're
also
hoping
that
the
improvements
we
made
to
the
tooling
for
remote
participation
because
of
corona
will
have
a
sort
of
lasting
impact
that
will
open
up
the
organization
to
more
participants
in
into
the
future,
because
I
really
think
we're
not
going
to
go
back
to
the
old
style
meeting
for
a
while.
D
And
it's
also
so
it's
exciting
to
be
here
in
person.
It's
also
quite
sad
and
I'm
pretty
emotional
about
this.
So
I'm
struggling
a
little
bit
here,
but
you
know
it's
been
sad
because,
obviously,
because
of
covid
we
haven't
really
been
able
to
meet
for
a
long
time
and
some
people
had
some
extremely
challenging
years
and
it
remains
an
ongoing
concern
for
many
of
us.
D
So
we
worry
about
the
safety
of
our
ukrainian
colleagues
and
their
families
and
being
so
directly
impacted,
makes
it
difficult
to
concentrate
on
the
work
of
the
itf,
which
is
making
the
internet
work
better,
and
I
personally
sort
of
believe
the
inner
is
fundamentally
about
connecting
people,
and
I
can
take
some
little
bit
of
comfort
because
I
choose
to
believe
that
doing
so
will
hopefully
allow
us
in
the
future
to
avoid
needless
wars.
D
That's
it
some
things,
never
change,
and
you
can
take
a
great
comfort
that
the
note
well
slide
remains
as
unreadable
as
it
has
been
for
decades
now.
So,
if
you're
new
to
the
organization,
this
is
what
we
require
of
you
as
participants.
D
Please
try
and
read
it.
It's
not
very
easy,
but
you
should
be
familiar
with
it
by
now.
D
There
are
some
tips
on
how
to
participate
here
when
you
join
me
deco,
which
is
the
tool
we're
using
for
displenary,
your
audio
will
be
muted,
your
video
will
be
off,
and
would
you
like
to
speak
from
the
floor
or
I
guess
up
on
stage,
please
unmute
yourself
when
you
are
recognized
in
the
queue
and
we
ask
you
to
share
your
video
if
you
feel
comfortable
doing
so,
because
it
makes
it
a
bit
more
personal,
and
if
you
have
a
headset,
please
use
it.
D
D
The
agenda
is
very
generic.
I'm
struggling
through
my
welcome
address.
So
thank
you
for
what
very
much
for
bearing
with
me
and
we're
gonna
have
a
brief
update
from
our
host
huawei,
who
graciously,
even
though
we
moved
the
meeting
out
of
bangkok
and
to
vienna
have
upheld
their
commitment
to
supporting
us.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
D
Mir
is
going
to
give
a
brief
update
from
the
iab
colin
is
going
to
be
going
to
give
a
brief
update
from
the
irtf
jay
and
jason
are
going
to
talk
about
the
idf
llc
and
glenn
is
going
to
talk
about
the
trust
we
have
have
the
usual
recognition
and
in
memoriam
session,
sadly,
and
we
have
open
mic
sessions
for
the
llc,
the
isg
and
the
iep
in
that
order.
D
E
Yeah
last
you
hear
me:
yes,
sorry
because
I
tried
several
times
but
but
I
still
cannot
get
the
video
permission.
I
don't
know
what
happened
but
anyway.
I
just
want
to
spend
only
two
minutes
to
express,
welcome
and
thank
you
to
everybody
here
so
good
evening,
good
morning
and
good
afternoon
for
everybody
here
to
join
it0113
in
person
and
also
online.
E
I
still
remember
two
years
ago
for
itf-107
the
first
virtual
itf
meeting,
also
huawei
was
working
with
aoc
and
isc
together
to
to
make
the
virtual
meeting
based
on
the
challenge
of
the
pandemic
and
now,
two
years
later,
how
is
the
also
honored
to
to
host
the
first
hybrid
meeting
three
and
as
I
know,
because
I'm
not
on
I'm
not
in
person,
I'm
still
just
to
join
the
meeting
from
beijing,
but
we
appreciate
that
more
than
300
percent
to
join
the
woman's
three
in
person.
E
It
shows
that
whatever
happens,
the
whole
ietf
community
will
just
stick
together
to
support
the
itf
mission
to
make
the
internet
working
better
and
so
again
to
want
to
thank
all
the
itf
committee
or
the
itf
community.
Thank
you
again
and
please
take
care
and
be
safe,
healthy
and
enjoy
the
item
113.
and
while
we
still
wanted
to
say
long
term
to
commit
and
support
all
itf
community
activities
here.
D
We
really
appreciate
your
long-term
commitment
to
organization
and
we
have
a
beautiful
wooden
plaque
or
it's
actually
going
to
be
a
glass
black.
This
is
the
dummy
I'm
not
trusted
with
the
real
one,
because
apparently
I
might
drop
it
we're
going
to
make
this
come
to
you
somehow,
and
thank
you
very
much
right
and
again
also
thank
you
to
everybody
else
who
made
this
meeting
happen.
D
I
said
it
feels
like
an
itf
meeting
and
it
kind
of
is
except
for
the
mask,
and
some
of
these
other,
you
know,
corona
specified
things,
but
secretariat
has
done
an
heroic
job
to
pull
this
together
and
the
corona
restrictions
in
austria
were
quite
a
bit
more
strict
until
very
recently,
and
so
all
the
planning
went
towards
that
much
more
strict
type
of
meeting,
which
was
even
more
work
than
what
we
have
now.
So
thank
you
very
much.
D
D
Which
brings
me
to
the
boring
part,
which
is
the
chair
report,
participant
statistics
and
a
few
other
of
the
usual
suspects,
we're
going
to
go
through
very
quickly.
So
we
have
time
for
open
mic.
D
D
We
used
almost
250
fee
waivers,
which
is
great,
allows
people
that
otherwise
couldn't
afford
to
participate
to
participate,
remotely
we're
going
to
continue
the
fee
waiver
program
into
the
future.
So
there
will
always
be
a
free,
remote
participation
option.
At
itf's
we
have
231
hackathon
registrations
which,
considering
you
know,
134
of
those
were
online.
So
a
lot
more
of
the
online
people
actually
rented
a
hackathon
for
50,
roughly
it's
great,
and
we
had
a
lot
of
people
participating
remotely
statistics
by
country.
I
think
this
is
for
the
total
number
of
participants.
D
You
can
see
it's
the
usual
split
more
or
less,
and
I
think
I
have
an
extra
slide
that
I
haven't
seen
yet
on
this
breakdown
between
on-site
and
remote.
So
join
me
looking
at
this
light.
For
the
first
time
we
have,
as
I
said,
300
people
on
site
and
about
1100
remote
and
the
breakdown
glancing
from
up
here
looks
pretty
much
identical.
So
I
don't
know
what
we
learned
from
that,
but
apparently
the
cove
did
not
keep
some
regions
of
the
world
further
away
than
others.
D
So
that's,
I
guess
good,
but
okay,
I'm
getting
corrected
from
the
floor.
D
I
will
stop
analyzing
things
I
can't
read,
but
you
can
look
at
these
in
the
minutes
right
future
meetings.
We
have
a
bunch
of
different
ways,
so
we
have
a
for
a
while.
Now
I
had
to
support
at
itf.org
email
address,
which
is
your
one
stop
shop
for
anything,
goes
into
the
ticket
system
and
you
get
directed
to
the
right
person
for
your
request.
D
If
you
have
something
urgent
about
the
meeting
or
something
else,
it's
typically
a
good
idea
to
email
that,
rather
than
some
random
mailing
list
where
the
secretariat
is
not
hanging
out
to
handle
your
requests
immediately
for
tools.
Specifically,
it's
also
a
good
idea
to
email
tools.
D
Discuss
jay
is
about
to
send
out
the
post
113
survey,
which
has
a
bunch
of
new
questions,
because
it's
our
first
hybrid
meeting
and
we
do
want
to
know
how
that
worked
for
you,
especially
those
of
you
who
are
here,
but
also
those
of
you
who
are
using
the
remote
tooling
for
the
first
time.
D
Right,
we
have
a
few
things
that
are
experiments
or
planned
actions.
We
have
an
ongoing
comment
period
on
the
proposal
to
archive
discussions
between
document
authors
and
the
rpc
during
world
48.
D
I
think
it
runs
until
tomorrow.
So
if
you
have
strong
feelings,
we
have
a
day
to
send
them.
D
We
are
constantly
tweaking
the
way
we
review
buffs
proposals
for
new
work
because
they're
important,
so
we're
scheduling
when
you
need
to
submit
them
by
how
we're
viewing
them.
So
we
can
give
you
feedback,
we're
also
looking
at
running
more
virtual,
slash
interim
buffs,
and
these
are
not
necessarily
new,
because
we've
had
them,
but
very
rarely
in
the
past,
and
we
recently
decided
there's
specifically
because
of
the
band
that
make
really
no
reason
to
try
and
have
more
of
those.
D
Right,
we
had
zero
appeals
since
the
last
itf.
So
thank
you
for
that,
and
we
made
did
one
statement
on
how
you
should,
as
an
author
understand
when
you
get
isg
ballot
position,
emails
and
I
think
to
short
version-
is
don't
freak
out
it's
not
as
bad
as
you
think
it
is
there's
a
lot
more
written
reports,
including
ours,
at
the
url
there
that
you
can
look
at
there's,
also
the
idf
blog
that
sort
of
gets
fresh
content
every
once
in
a
while.
F
F
F
For
whatever
reason,
please
take
a
moment
when
you
can
to
read
the
contributing
document
that
I've
got
on
the
slide,
you
can
find
it
linked
from
the
readme
from
each
of
the
repositories
that
will
give
you
a
good
overview
of
of
how
you
can
engage
if
you
want
to
to
work
on
the
code
beyond
providing
bug,
reports
and
feature
requests
and
engaging
in
the
discussions
and
join
our
code
sprints
when
you
can
watch
the
tools
discuss
list
for
when
these,
when
these
are
going
to
occur,
the
tools
discuss
list
is
also
discuss.
F
List
is
also
a
good
place
to
send
code
contributions.
If,
for
some
reason,
you
have
no
no
ability
to
to
push
things
directly
to
github
I'll,
always
be
willing
to
take
patches
directly
and
manipulate
things
into
the
repositories.
On
your
behalf,
the
tools
team
meets
regularly.
You
can
watch
for
their
meetings
in
the
upcoming
meetings
calendar
and
we
have
a
set
of
workshops
that
are.
Are
that
we're
working
on
scheduling?
You
can
look
in
that
repository
to
find
out
what
they're
about.
F
F
D
Thanks
robert-
and
I
think
I
remember
that
the
author
tools,
idf
drug
wallet-
is
working
for
many
people
already,
it's
still
considered
better,
and
so,
if
you
find
issues,
please
report
them
it's
much
better
than
the
old
tool
that
we
had
already,
but
I
think
there's
still
some
things
that
are
still
being
improved.
So
thanks
for
that-
and
I
think
next
I'm
going
to
hand
over
to
miriah
who
gives
the
iab
report
and
do
I
need
to
take
back
control
here.
I
have
control.
G
Yes,
hello,
everybody,
I'm
also
very
happy
to
be
here,
see
you
all
in
person.
I
don't
know
if
you
recognize,
but
I've
been
the
ib
chair
for
two
years,
and
this
is
my
first
time
I'm
standing
here
so
very
exciting.
G
Hopefully,
next
time
we
will
see
even
more
faces
in
person
again
we're
excited
about
that
and
we're
excited
to
be
here
to
work
together
with
all
of
you
given.
This
is
quite
quite
early
for
plenary
for
us,
but
quite
late
for
a
lot
of
people
online
again,
I
will
be
trying
to
be
very
quick.
I
only
have
a
few
slides.
G
My
first
slide
is,
as
usually
all
the
other
information
that
I
don't
tell
you
here
today
are
in
the
report,
so
you
can
pick
them
from
the
proceedings
and
read
them
yourself,
and
I'm
only
reporting
a
little
bit
here
on
like
the
important
admin
stuff,
but
if
you're
actually
interested
what
the
iab
is
doing
otherwise
interested
in
engaging
with
some
technical
and
technical
discussion
with
the
iab.
G
We
have
the
iab
open
session
tomorrow,
so
there
will
be
a
little
bit
more
reporting
tomorrow
about
what
we
actually
do
and
there
will
be
a
discussion
about
centralization
or
actually
how
to
encounter
centralization
tomorrow.
So
it
would
be
great
to
see
you
all
there,
maybe
not
all
of
you,
because
it's
a
smaller
room,
but
many
of
you.
G
Yeah
I
slip
and
skip
this
important
slide.
So
one
of
the
big
announcements
today
is
that
we
have
a
new
independent
submission
editor.
The
iab
recently
appointed
elliot
lear
to
take
over
this
position.
Unfortunately,
he
is
not
here
today,
but
I'm
sure
you
maybe
had
a
chance
to
meet
him
online.
G
There
were
office
hours,
and
hopefully
we
will
see
him
next
time
again
and,
like
he's
pretty
well
known
to
many
of
you,
I
think
otherwise,
all
I
can
give
you
at
this
point
is
this
photo
here,
and
I
would
also
like
to
take
the
opportunity
to
say
thank
you
to
adrian
again.
I
already
announced
last
time
that
he
decided
to
step
down
after
I'm
four
years,
and
so
this
transition
had
just
happened
recently.
G
Okay,
one
more
thing
I
would
like
to
take
a
few
minutes
for
is
to
announce
the
outcome
of
the
iab
program.
That
is
designing
a
new
rfc
editor
model,
because
this
program
has
basically
concluded
at
work.
It's
still
open
if
we
need
to
and
pick
up
anything
again
but
effectively.
We
are
done
here
and
the
new
model
has
quite
changed.
Quite
quite
a
bit.
I've
presented
a
few
hints
about
this
at
the
last
plenaries
already.
G
But
if
you
want
to
know
all
the
details,
you
probably
have
to
read
the
document,
so
we'll
not
go
through
this
here.
I
just
wanted
to
report
back
where
we
are
and
the
status
is
that
the
the
program
is
basically
ready
with
their
work
and
handed
it
to
the
iab.
We
already
had
like
a
four
week.
G
Community
feedback
call
and
we
got
a
lot
of
feedback,
because
we
were
reached
out
to
many
community
members
and
asked
for
previews
actively
to
make
sure
people
are
aware,
and
we
have
considered
all
different
angles
and
we
got
a
lot
of
good
feedback.
Fortunately,
we
didn't
get
any
like
big
issues.
Out
of
that
I
mean
there
were
definitely
some
concerns,
but
nothing
that
we
didn't
discuss
that
lengthy
in
the
program
already
and
nothing
that
we
didn't
consider
so
the
bunch
of
clarifications
and
make
sure
we're
going
in
the
right
direction
here.
G
So
the
iab
has
also
reviewed.
The
last
version,
which
was
like
just
published
a
few
days
ago,
was
like
the
last
editorial
changes
and
effectively
approved
this
document.
What
we're
doing
right
now
is
we're
actually
waiting
for
three
additional
documents
that
are
small
updates
to
existing
process
documents
that
are
going
through
the
ietf
stream.
G
These
have
effectively
also
been
proved
by
the
ihg
to
a
certain
extent
already,
but
one
of
the
documents
we
missed
something
as
always,
so
there
will
be
another
working,
itf
last
call
and
that's
what
we're
waiting
for,
but
yeah,
to
make.
The
message
short
is
like
we're
done
and
we're
heading
forwards,
and
thank
you,
everybody
who
was
involved,
because
that
was
quite
a
big
effort.
G
We
already
have
selected
somebody
for
the
iso
board
of
trustees,
but
we
will
wait
for
the
announcement
to
coordinate
with
isaac
respectively,
so
this
is
still
a
secret,
but
I
can
thank
peter
who
has
been
reappointed
to
the
icann
technical
esau
group
to
taking
over
this
position
again
or
keeping
this
position,
and
then
this
is
also
always
a
good
chance
for
us
to
tell
you
about
our
open
calls.
Do
you
want
to
say
something
less?
G
G
Okay,
let
me
start
again
because
that
is
important
for
the
iap,
so
we
have
two
open
calls.
One
is
for
the.
I
can
root
server
government
working
group,
so
this
group
is
that
isn't
supposed
to
be
around
forever,
but
we're
looking
for
somebody
committing
to
kind
of
work
until
the
end
of
this
kind
of
project
which
will
be
you
know.
Who
knows
it's
like
the
idea?
No,
nobody
has
deadlines,
but
it
will
be
in
commitment
for
like
one
or
two
years.
G
Hopefully,
ted
was
serving
us
in
this
position,
but
because
the
process
got
delayed,
he's
not
able
to
take
this
position
up
anymore.
So
we're
really
looking
somebody
who
can
be
engaged
in
this
important
process
and
thanks
for
ted
serving
in
this
position
and
then
now
lars.
G
We
have
another
open
call
together
with
the
ihg,
we
are
looking
for
two
people
to
share
the
new
rfc
series
working
group.
That
was
the
outcome
of
the
program
that
I
just
talked
about,
and
this
is
also
very
important
because
it's
a
very
new
process,
so
we're
looking
for
people
who
can
engage
there
and
help
the
community
to
move
forward
in
this.
G
So
if
you're
volunteering
for
that,
as
always,
send
us
an
email
or
propose
people
who,
I
think,
are
qualified
or
talk
to
people
and
convince
them
that
they
should
put
their
name
in
okay,
that's
it
from
my
site.
J
Okay,
thank
you,
maria
this.
This
is
the
the
irtf
report.
My
name
is
colin
perkins.
I'm
the
irtf
chair.
C
J
J
The
applied
networking
research
prize
is
here
to
recognize
some
of
the
best
recent
results
in
applied
networking
research.
It's
here
to
recognize
some
interesting
new
research
ideas
which
may
be
of
eventual
relevance
to
the
standards
community
and
it's
here
to
to
recognize
upcoming
people
that
are
likely
to
have
an
impact
on
the
the
internet,
standards
and
technologies
going
forward.
J
We
made
two
a
rp
applied
networking
research
prize
awards
during
the
irtf
open
meeting
yesterday.
These
went
to
sangeeta
abdul
jyoti,
who
had
a
really
nice
paper
on
the
the
resilience
of
the
internet
infrastructure
to
solar
super
storms
and
to
bruce
bruce
spang,
who
also
had
some
really
good
work,
showing
that
network
a
b
testing
algorithms
can
be
biased
in
the
the
presence
of
network
congestion.
J
As
I
say,
these
were
two
really
excellent
talks.
If
you're
interested
in
these
topics,
I
would
encourage
you
to
take
a
look.
The
talks
are
available
on
the
irtf
website
and
the
full
version
of
sangeeta's
talk
is
there
and
a
shorter
version
of
bruce's
talk
and
the
the
recordings
of
the
full
talk
should
also
be
available
on
the
the
ietf
channel
on
youtube.
J
In
addition
to
the
the
prizes,
we
also
run
the
applied
networking
research
workshop
in
conjunction
with
acm
sitcom.
The
2022
version
of
this
workshop
will
co-locate
with
the
july
iatf
meeting.
I'm
pleased
to
announce
that
tj
chung
from
virginia
tech
and
marwan
fired
from
cloudflare
have
agreed
to
co-chair
that
workshop.
J
The
call
for
papers
went
out
yesterday
and
is
on
on
the
the
website,
and
please
do
consider
submitting
your
work
if
you're
doing
research
that
may
be
relevant.
As
I
say,
it's
a
it's
a
forum
for
for
those
to
present
new
work
related
to
applied
networking
research
and
the
the
deadline
for
submissions.
There
is
the
end
of
april.
K
Thanks
colin
hi,
I'm
jay
daley,
I'm
the
ihf
executive
director,
you've
probably
seen
me
in
all
of
the
plenaries,
but
last
time
in
person
was
singapore
in
2019,
my
first
in-person
meeting
so
to
kick
off
for
the
llc
part
of
things.
K
First
of
all,
thank
you
to
huawei
our
global
host
and
meeting
host
as
lars
said,
they've
been
very,
very
helpful
to
us
over
a
long
period.
Now
it's
it's
difficult.
I
think
for
many
organizations
to
understand
what
value
they
get
from
sponsoring
a
meeting
that
is,
has
lower
in-person
attendance,
where
you
don't
know
what
who's
going
to
be
here,
you
don't
know
what
exposure
you
get,
but
why
I
have
taken
the
risk
with
us
a
couple
of
times
now
and
that's
very
much
appreciated.
K
Thank
you
and
a
big
thanks
to
cisco
and
juniper
and
cisco
through
webex
meetings
for
their
equipment
and
services
sponsorship.
The
I
don't
if
you
know
this,
but
the
value
of
the
equipment
we
get
off.
These
people
is
extraordinary.
It
really
does
help
us
so
run
the
meetings
and
do
all
sorts
of
things
with
that,
and
also
a
special
shout
out
to
hurricane
electric
and
some
of
the
other
people
that
also
provide
us
equipment
and
services
to
help
things.
In
the
background.
K
Work
for
this
meeting,
and
for
this
year
we
have
akamai
and
cisco,
who
are
our
goal:
diversity,
inclusivity,
sponsors.
This
is
good
to
find
that
we
have
people
who
are
as
well
as
sponsoring
us
for
specific
meetings
are
also
helping
sponsor
us
on
a
values
basis
throughout
the
year.
Very
much
helps
us
work
throughout
that
year.
K
And
huawei
are
also
a
silver
sponsor
for
diversity
inclusivity.
So
thank
you
for
that,
and
then
we
have
the
domain
name.
Industry
steaming
in
here
with
verisign
donuts
and
cn
nick
as
bronze
sponsors
on
the
diversity
inclusivity
and
the
running
code
side
of
things.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that
and
then
finally,
a
special
shout
out
to
next
layer
who
are
the
local
company
who
have
provided
the
network
here,
who
offered
to
do
all
the
letters
of
invitation
and
have
been
very
helpful,
doing
a
lot
of
work
for
us.
Thank
you
very
much.
K
So,
as
lars
said,
we
have
a
lot
of
volunteers
who
come
and
give
their
time
on
the
code
sprint.
On
saturday
we
had
a
whole
bunch
of
people
who
participated
there.
Thank
you
very
much.
It's
a
very,
very
serious
room.
When
you
go
into
the
code
sprint,
it's
not
quite
the
same
as
the
hackathon.
Shall
we
say
you
know
people
take
it
very
seriously
and
get
a
lot
of
stuff
done.
I'm
impressed
at
how
quickly
people
can
adapt
to
that
and
the
knock.
So
thank
you
very
much.
K
The
people
are
not,
and
also
thank
you
to
their
employers
who
allow
them
to
dedicate
their
time
to
do
things
and
to
create
the
650
different
networks
that
itf
participants
require.
That's
absolutely
fantastic!
Thank
you
and
there
are,
as
you
probably
know,
some
dashboards
around.
That
shows
the
stuff
from
the
knock
that
you
might
find
useful
to
look
at.
K
We
as
we're
now
meeting
again,
we've
been
able
to
take
the
secretary
out
of
deep
freeze
and
they're
back
here.
So
thank
you
very
much
secretariat
for
running
an
excellent
meeting
again
and
thank
you
also
for
our
covid
officer.
Who's
been
ensuring
that
we'll
wear
our
masks
at
the
right
times.
K
We
on
the
we
have
on
the
knock
side.
We
have
the
contract
and
crew
from
line
speed.
Thank
you
and,
of
course,
we
have
meet
echo,
who
are
here
in
numbers
to
help
support
us
and
to
get
the
best
from
the
product.
Thank
you.
The
on
our
tools,
team.
We
have
a
a
set
of
contractors
who
are
dedicated
to
all
the
tall
side
of
things
and
then
the
llc
staff,
and
we
have
a
number
of
the
llc
staff
here
as
well.
K
So
please
come
up
and
say
hello
to
meet
us.
K
Iatf114
will
be
in
philadelphia.
I
expect
a
minimum
of
1
500
people
to
attend
please,
and
there
will
be
plenty
of
opportunities
for
doing
rocky
poses
on
steps
and
things.
Okay,
I
shall
ensure
we'll
just
have
a
photographer
that,
if
necessary,
so
please
come
along.
I
think
you
know
I'm
very
glad
that
you
all
made
the
effort
to
come
here.
K
That's
been
very
helpful
and
for
all
the
people
online,
you
know
try
to
come
to
philadelphia
if
you
can
so
that
we
can
make
this
into
a
you
know
a
very
much
bigger
meeting
in
person.
That'd
be
great
for
us.
K
So
the
the
bulk
of
our
meeting
funding
comes
from
our
global
hosts
and
global
supporters.
These
are
companies
that
sign
up
to
us
for
six
or
nine
years,
give
us
money
every
year
towards
that
and
then
host
these
meetings
and
without
them
really
we
could
not
run
the
meetings
they're
extraordinarily
generous.
So
thank
you
to
cisco,
thank
you
to
comcast
ericsson,
huawei,
juniper,
nbc,
universal
and
nokia.
K
Your
commitment
is
tremendous,
particularly
over
the
long
terms,
it's
very
difficult
for
I
think
for
people
to
get
budgets
in
corporates
to
last
this
long,
and
they
do
so.
I'm
very
impressed
by
that.
Thank
you.
K
So
these
are
our
upcoming
meetings.
We
have
philadelphia.
Then
we
have
london
in
later
in
the
year
in
november,
we
still
working
on
asia
for
116..
We
hope
to
have
an
announcement
about
that
soon.
It's
it's
a
bit
complicated
because
of
covid
to
come,
make
contractual
arrangements
with
hotels
the.
To
put
it
bluntly,
they
don't
believe
that
we're
not
going
to
cancel.
So
it's
just
taking
a
bit
of
time
for
us
to
arrange
these
things,
but
hopefully
that
will
be
arranged
soon.
K
We
have
san
francisco
one
of
the
rearranged
meetings,
prague
and
then
asia,
which
we're
looking
at
one
of
the
moved
meetings
from
and
vancouver,
which
was
a
move
meeting.
So
we
we
are
filling
up
the
pipeline
of
meetings
coming
forward.
We
are
still
interested
in
new
ideas
and
new
places
to
go
to
and
things
or
old
ideas
and
old
places
to
go
to.
For
example,
I'm
told
that
london
has
been
completely
rebuilt
and
we
probably
won't
lose
that
many
of
you
there
this
time.
K
So
you
know
please
let
us
know
your
favorite
locations.
K
Right,
the
registration
numbers-
I
think
those
might
be
slightly
out
actually
so
we'll
look
at
those
later
lars
figures
are
the
ones
that
believe
on
that
currently
right.
So
this
is
us,
the
staff.
K
That's
me
approximately
25
years
ago
on
the
left,
but
why
would
I
change
the
picture
and
then
we
have
greg
wood
over
there.
Our
director
of
operations,
lee
berkeley,
shaw
our
director
of
development
casara,
one
of
our
software
developers,
is
somewhere
in
the
room
and
nick
is
another
software
developer
who's
not
joined
us
this
time.
K
Right
so
a
small
thing
about
the
itf
endowment,
so
the
intf
endowment
is
created
to
support
the
iotf
and
its
activities
in
the
long
term
to
create
long-term
sustainability.
K
We
are
basically
trying
to
raise
money
so
that
then,
at
some
point
in
the
future
it
would
be
possible
to
live
off
the
interest
of
all
the
the
investment
income
from
the
endowment.
If
that's
the
case,
it
gives
us
a
diversity
of
income,
makes
us
not
reliant
on
any
particular
funder
or
and
not
reliant
on
any
particular
industry
or
set
of
companies
in
that
way.
It's
something
we
would
like
to
get
to
and
we
have
a
goal
of
trying
to
raise
50
million
us
dollars
by
2027..
K
This
is
particularly
useful,
particularly
helped
at
the
moment
by
a
commitment
from
the
internet
society
to
match
fund
any
donations
we
get
so
on
the
first
12
million
we
get
a
two
to
one
match
funding
and
then
on
the
subsequent
six
million
we
get
a
one-to-one
match
funding,
so
internet
society
could
end
up
giving
us
30
million
of
us
raising
80
million
18
million.
So
that's
a
huge
amount.
K
That
really
is
very
useful
for
us,
so
if
you
can
help
persuade
your
companies
in
any
way
to
please
help
us,
then
please,
let
us
know,
certainly
but
2021
donors
are.
We
had
ripe,
thank
you,
laknik
and
google,
and
over
a
dozen
individual
donations,
including
some
very
generous
ones,
from
individuals.
K
So
thank
you
very
much
and
in
total
we
raised
you
know
239
000,
us
dollars,
which,
with
the
match,
gives
us
seven
hundred
and
eighteen
thousand
so,
and
lee
berkeley
shaw
over
there
waving
is
our
director
of
government.
If
you
have
a
spare
million
or
two
or
your
company
is
looking
for
some
way
of
showing
that
it
properly
is
investing
in
the
internet,
which
is
the
person
to
speak
to.
Thank
you
very
much.
K
I
K
L
Looks
like
it's
passed
over
to
me
successfully.
I
think
so.
Thank
you.
Jay
appreciate
your
presentation
and
thanks
everyone
for
attending
whether
in
person
or
virtually,
this
will
be
a
brief
itflc
update.
So
should
be
pretty
easy.
L
L
These
are
the
upcoming
meetings
that
we
have
scheduled
right
now.
You
know
april
may
june,
basically
monthly.
The
meetings
are
completely
open,
so
you're
welcome
to
join.
We
do
have
open
q
a
during
the
public
part
so
certainly
feel
free
to
join
if
you're
not
able
to
join
at
a
particular
time.
You
can
also
send
questions
in
and
so
on,
and
we're
also
working
on
as
I'll
mention
shortly
planning
a
strategic
planning
retreat
and
as
with
prior
years,
we'll
have
large
sections
of
time
where
people
can
observe
and
ask
questions,
and
so
on.
L
So,
in
terms
of
the
current
work
things
that
we
have
recently
completed
this
year
since
the
last
meeting
or
are
currently
working
on,
we've
made
changes
to
the
investment
policy
following
recommendations
from
our
financial
advisors-
goldman
sachs
in
essence,
increasing
our
exposure
to
equity
investments
and
also
considering
the
possibility
of
private
equity
investments
over
time,
similar
to
many
other
nonprofit
funds.
L
We've
also
been
working
obviously
on
this
meeting
working
with
the
executive
director,
jay
and
all
of
the
other
folks
here,
in
particular
the
noc
team,
to
make
sure
that
the
first
hybrid
meeting
got
carried
off
all
right
and
be
very
much
looking
forward
to
feedback,
because
I
think,
as
probably
lars
said
at
the
beginning,
you
know
this
is
a
model
that
will
likely
persist
for
some
time
and
you
know
making
it
work
great
for
both
in-person
and
on-site
and
remote
excuse
me.
Participants
is
important.
L
There's
been
some
list
discussion
about
that,
of
course,
and
we're
inching
closer
and
closer
to
to
sort
of
a
final
decision
on
some
of
those
things
so
stay
tuned
and,
of
course,
as
I
think
jay
may
have
noted,
he's
relocated
now
to
the
united
kingdom
to
london
area,
greater
london
from
new
zealand,
and
so
we've
had
to
do
a
bunch
of
you
know
legal
and
benefits
changes
with
our
employment
management
company
and
lots
of
odd.
L
You
know
inter
sort
of
legal
changes,
but
you
know
important
stuff
to
get
right
to
take
care
of
our
employees
like
jay.
We're
all
obviously
also
planning
the
annual
strategic
planning
retreat.
We
should
have
some
dates
out
fairly
soon
and
again,
as
I
noted
welcome,
participation
and
we've
been
increasing,
focus
on
fundraising,
so
that
fundraising
topic
is
now
on
our
monthly
agenda
and
it's
something
that
we
are
focusing
on
all
the
time
to
see
that
we're
making
maximum
use
of
that
isoc
program
in
terms
of
prior
fiscal
year
operating
budget.
L
This
will
look
a
lot
better
as
we
enter
into
2022,
because
we
had
this
sort
of
outstanding
accounting
issue,
with
the
way
that
isoc
funding
got
recognized
last
fiscal
year
or
two
fiscal
years
ago.
Excuse
me,
so
last
fiscal
year
ends
up
looking
odd.
We'll
have
audited
results.
You
know
in
the
relatively
near
future,
and
you
know
everything
is
generally
on
track.
L
I
think
we've
continued
to
weather
the
coveted
19
disruptions
fairly
well,
but
again,
a
lot
of
the
the
weird
variances
that
we
see
are
just
due
to
this
one-time
isoc
thing,
and
that
is,
should
not
be
an
issue
for
this
fiscal
year.
So
it'll
be
easier
to
read
our
financial
statements.
L
M
It
looks
like
you
have
control
awesome,
hi,
I'm
glenn
dean
from
comcast
nbc
universal.
I
am
the
chair
of
the
icf
trust.
M
So
these
are
the
five
trustees
they
are
selected
by
the
eye
tip
nom
com.
One
of
them
is
selected
by
the
icy
border
trustees
and
one
is
selected
by
the
iesg
and
we've
been
the
same
sort
of
group
now
for
a
few
years,
which
is
good
because,
having
trustees
around
there
sort
of
know
the
lay
of
the
land,
it's
always
good
to
have
people
that
they're
well
engaged
and
well
aware
of
the
background.
M
These
are
some
boilerplate
plate,
slides
because
a
lot
of
people,
you
know,
don't
really
know
what
the
trust
does
we're
a
pretty
quiet
bunch
and
that's
a
good
thing,
because
we
deal
with
legal
stuff
and
when
legal
things
are
nice
and
quiet,
that's
the
ideal
situation,
but
basically
we
hold
ip
assets.
M
This
is
like
copyrights
and
trademarks
and
domains,
and
software
licenses
on
behalf
of
the
itf
ayanna,
icann
and
and
water
internet
related
activities,
and
we
make
sure
these
things
are
protected
and
and
freedom
used
as
appropriate,
but
also
that
we
don't
accidentally
lose
control
of
them
through
some
slippage
around.
You
know
not
complying
with
laws
and
jurisdictional
requirements,
we're
a
currently
a
virginia
common
trust.
We're
a
non-profit
and,
as
I
said,
we
have
five
trustees
and
we're
a
small
group.
M
Well,
the
budget
is
about
a
hundred
thousand
dollars,
keep
it
light,
keep
it
tight
and
most
that
goes
towards
legal
fees.
M
What
I
want
to
talk
to
you
today
about,
though,
is
that
the
trust
is
having
a
bit
of
a
problem,
and
it
revolves
around
insurance
trusts
when
we
were
created
back
in
2005
have
evolved
a
lot
and
we
historically
carry
a
lot
of
insurance
on
our
professional
liability
and
directors
and
officers
insurance
to
protect
the
trustees.
M
When
you
sign
up
to
be
a
trustee
because
of
the
nature
of
trust
trustees
literally
own
the
trust
they
are
the
owners
of
all
the
assets
of
the
trust
and
they
are
themselves
their
personal
liabilities
are
intertwined
with
the
the
trust
and
its
assets
and
the
activity.
So
if
the
trust
gets
sued,
one
of
the
consequences
of
trustees
themselves
can
be
named
as
part
of
the
the
suit.
So
we
hear
a
lot
of
good
insurance
on
that
to
protect
the
people
that
volunteer
to
become
trustees.
M
All
trustees
are
not
compensated.
They're
all
volunteers
and
we've
run
into
a
problem.
The
last
few
years
we've
tried
to
increase
the
amount
of
coverage
through
our
insurance
broker
to
a
level
that
is
appropriate
for
both
inflation
and
the
legal
risk
that
we
see
in
the
landscape.
The
trouble
is
that
the
market
for
insurance
providers
for
trusts
really
is
very
limited.
There's
a
very
few
companies
that
provide
it
and
those
that
do
provide
like
the
one
we
currently
use,
aren't
interested
in
increasing
the
limits.
M
Part
of
this
is
because
the
trusts
are
very
often
these
days
used
for
other
activities
such
as
real
estate
holdings,
generational
wealth
management,
tax
efficiency
and
not
so
much
use
for
what
we
do
protecting.
You
know
the
the
ip
materials
for
the
itf
and
the
other
parties
that
we
work
with.
So
this
has
created
a
problem
for
us.
M
We
we've
been
scratching
our
heads
about
how
to
deal
with
this
for
the
last
few
years
and
so
we're
looking
at
the
landscape
and
maybe
making
some
changes
to
the
itf
trust
structure
relating
to
this
is,
as
I
mentioned,
the
individual
trustee
liability,
the
current
structure
of
the
trust,
because
the
trustees
themselves
own
the
trust
and
all
the
assets
they
themselves
take
on
a
lot
of
legal
liability
and
in
fact,
when
you
become
a
trustee,
we
give
you
a
document
that
says:
hey
read
this
over
and
by
the
way,
don't
just
read
this
and
sign
it
quickly.
M
Read
this
over!
It
has
a
lot
of
stuff
you
are
taking
on
and
you
know
anecdotally.
We
know
there
are
people
within
the
itf
community
that
have
seriously
considered
being
a
trustee.
Looked
at
this
and
said:
oh
no!
No!
No!
That's!
I'm
not
going
to
take
on
that
personal
liability.
M
M
Given
these
two
key
issues
that
are
causing
us,
you
know
personal
liability,
making
our
pool
of
trustee
candidates
smaller
and
proper
insurance
levels
to
make
sure
the
ones
that
do
get
selected
and
served
are
well
protected,
and
one
of
the
things
we've
observed
is
that,
while
trusts
have
a
lot
of
these
problems,
corporations
don't
and
it
breaks
down
to
the
corporations,
have
within
the
legal
frameworks
that
they
operate
under
more
protection
for
directors,
because
directors
aren't
owners,
they're,
just
demoted
to
from
the
owner
down
to
a
person
serving
to
help
run
the
corporation,
and
they
have
more
legal
liabilities
that
help
them,
along
with
there's
a
very
large
insurance
market
that
will
provide
insurance
coverage
to
such
entities.
M
So
we're
exploring
the
possibility
of
restructuring
the
ihf
trust
on
a
legal
basis
into
a
not-for-profit
corporation
from
a
trust
now,
in
reality,
very
little
would
change
awkwardly.
If
we
did
this
right,
all
the
trust's
current
assets
would
just
transfer
over
to
the
new
entity
all
the
current
licenses
we
do
and
the
way
we
do
them
and
the
way
we
make
them
available
for
people
to
use
would
all
transfer
as
well
we're
going
to
demo
the
trustees,
though
they
get
demoted
to
just
be
directors.
M
No
longer
would
they
be
owners,
and
we
would
also
move
from
virginia
probably
to
delaware,
where
the
united
states
is
very
popular
to
doing
corporations.
The
itf
llc,
for
instance,
is
in
fact
based
in
delaware.
M
What
would
not
change
the
role
and
service
to
the
itf
and
all
the
other
communities
that
make
use
of
the
trusts
assets
would
not
change
in
any
way.
Licenses
would
stay
the
same,
and
we
would
continue
to
be
a
501c3
entity
so
non-profit
as
well.
The
other
thing
we're
not
going
to
change
is
how
the
trustees
are
selected,
or
in
this
case
the
new
directors
would
be
selected.
There
would
be
still
be
five
of
them.
The
selection
process
would
still
follow
the
process.
M
You
know
by
80
rfc
87
14,
but
it
was
just
the
legal
definition
of
how
we're
registered
as
an
entity
that
would
basically
trust
it
changed.
So
that's
pretty
big
delay
in
the
community
there's
an
obvious
question:
why
don't
we
just
fold
this
under
the
itf
llc?
We
went
all
the
work
in
you
know
to
create
it.
M
Why
don't
we
just
fold
over
and
I
won't
go
into
this
slide
in
detail,
but
there
are
some
dependencies
upon
the
trust
being
an
independent
entity
that
has
been
established
from
the
very
beginning
and
along
with
some
requirements
that,
because
the
llc
is
associated
with
isak
as
a
as
an
entity,
officially,
you
know
disregarded
entity
by
eyestock.
Transferring
the
assets
of
the
trust
to
the
llc
would
effectively
be
given
an
arms
length.
M
Relationship
to
isoc
and
both
the
original
founding
agreement
from
2005
had
a
particular
restriction
that
that
can't
be
done
with
the
trust's
assets
and
then
later
on
in
2016,
when
we
did
the
ia
transition
and
the
trust
took
on
some
service
diana
and
I
can
communities
that
was
done
with
the
expectation
that
the
trust
was
an
independent
entity.
So
we've
looked
at
this:
we
don't
think
this
is
an
option.
M
M
I
can
the
ir
rars
we're
going
to
use
the
tlp
interest
list
over
the
idf.org
for
comments
and
questions
and
we're
going
to
hold
a
multi-hour
webinar
in
april
for
anybody's
interested
in
this
topic
to
come
and
talk,
we're
going
to
explain
why
we're
thinking
of
what
we're
going
to
do,
how
it
would
look
and
then
open
for
discussion.
You
know
opinions,
concerns
ideas.
We
want
to
hear
from
people
we're
not
just
going
to
go
off
and
do
this.
You
know
in
a
vacuum.
M
D
Thanks
glenn,
this
is
again
very
hot.
Thank
you
and
we're
coming
to
the
recognition
of
the
outgoing
leadership.
D
Part
of
the
agenda
and
jared
will
be
happy
to
hear
that
the
the
rumors
of
my
diminishing
eyesight
are
vastly
over
exaggerated,
but
my
glasses
do
up
when
I
wear
a
mask,
so
I
actually
did
not
see
that
thing
on
the
slide
earlier.
I'm
very
sorry,
but
everybody's
paying
attention
that's
great
right.
G
Yeah-
and
we
have
two
outgoing
ib
members-
that
I
would
like
to
to
thank
for
a
service
today.
Both
of
them
have
served
for
two
years
on
the
iab,
so
they
have
been
fully
virtual
iep
members.
G
I
think
that
was
challenging
and
I
I
at
least
had
still
a
good
time
working
with
them.
I
would
like
to
start
with
jared
because
he
is
actually
here
in
prison,
so
at
least
I
had
finally
a
chance
to
meet
him
in
person.
After
two
years
of
only
online
meetings,
we
had
a
couple
of
chats
online
as
well,
so
I
do
have
the
feeling.
I
actually
know
you
well,
but
it's
not
the
same,
and
so
I'm
happy
that
we
at
least
met
at
this
very
last
meeting.
G
G
You
have
strong
opinions
very
often,
but
but
it's
it's
good
to
have
different
angles,
and-
and
we
had
some
discussions,
we
we
do
agree
on
a
couple
of
points,
but
sometimes
also
disagree
and
it's
very
important
for
the
iab
to
have
all
these
different
views
in
the
discussion
and
make
sure
we
represent
in
this
way.
Also
a
little
bit
the
community.
G
G
This
is
the
water
bottle
which
is
branded
for
you
with
the
ieb
dot
on
here,
so
you
will
never
you
use
it.
So
that's
for
you
excellent,
thank
you
and,
and
we
brought
you
a
little
bit
of
chocolate
as
well
smaller
pocket
than
adrian,
but
that's
also
for
you.
G
Yeah
I
took
jared
first
because
ben
we
also
got
you
a
bottle
and
we
will
ship
it
to
you
and
of
course
you
will
also
get
some
chocolate
from
vienna.
So
ben,
as
I
just
said,
was
also
on
the
iab
for
two
years.
G
At
least
for
me,
it
was
a
little
bit
easier
because
I
was
serving
together
with
ben
on
the
ihd
already,
so
I
know
him
very
well.
He
has
always
been
a
very,
very
kind
person
and
contributed
to
discussion,
always
in
a
common
kind
way.
He
was
always
there
to
pick
up
any
tasks
if
needed,
and
so
we
would
definitely
also
miss
you
on
the
iab
ben
and
I
hope
very
much
that
next
time
we
will
see
at
a
meeting,
we
will
have
a
nice
dinner
together
and
chat
about
past
times
a
little
bit
more.
D
All
right,
I
will
hand
we'll
do
the
isg
recognition
next,
but
first
I
want
to
say:
actually
ben
was
also
the
liaison,
and
during
the
last
year
at
least
to
the
iesg,
and
so
we've
worked
with
him
as
well,
and
ben
has
written
some
of
the
best
short
reports
from
the
isg
from
the
iasg
and
what
the
delaware
from
the
I
to
the
iab
on
what
the
isg
is
doing
and
they're
so
good
that
I
actually
internally
forward
them
to
my
boss
and
say
this
is
what
I
did
this
week
and
there's
always
like
three
things
that
I
forgot
about,
but
ben
didn't
forget
it.
D
He
put
them
in
it's
a
nicely
bulleted
list
and
it's
been
extremely
useful
in
whoever
we
get
and
we
need.
We
need
that
level
of
reporting
was
excellent.
So
thank
you
ben
also
from
the
isg,
which
brings
us
to
a
slide.
I
don't
see
here,
but
I
see
it
there,
which
are
the
outgoing
isg
members,
benjamin
kadek,
for
the
security
area
and
mata
vigorous
for
the
trans.
The
transporter
is
wrong.
He
was
routing
so
testing
me
here,
I'm
awake
so
marta
for
the
for
the
riding
area.
D
Some
of
you
in
the
audience
have
done
this
job,
and
some
of
you
remotely
have
done
this
job,
and
you
know
it's
often
thankless,
and
both
of
them
are
unfortunately
not
here
so
when
the
open
mic
later
on
gets
boring,
maybe
take
a
minute
and
send
them
a
message
and
thank
them
for
their
service
because,
while
it
can
be,
you
know
not
often
fun
to
argue
with
an
ad
who
has
requests
for
you.
D
D
F
F
Yeah
there
we
go
so
susan
r
harris,
it
was
always
susan,
never
sue,
and
the
r
is
really
important
because
she
worked
with
both
susan
hares
and
another
susan
harris.
So
susan
r
harris
she
passed
away
on
march
6
after
a
short
and
and
she'd
probably
have
said
inconvenient
battle
with
cancer.
F
F
F
D
Thank
you,
john.
That
was
great
and
we
will
miss
her
next
up.
Is
the
open
mic
for
the
llc,
so
those
of
you
who
are
in
the
room
would
you
please
make
your
way
to
the
stage
and
those
of
you
who
might
have
questions
for
the
llc
make
your
way
to
the
microphones
and
please
use
the
on-site
tool
or
the
full
version
of
mitecho
to
insert
yourself
into
the
queue,
and
you
can
probably
see
if
you
are
close
to
being
up
and
if
you
are
make
your
way
to
a
microphone.
N
Hi
this
is
barry
lieber
jay.
I
want
to
thank
you
for
relocating
to
london
in
preparation
for
our
meeting
there,
making
sure
that
you're,
local
and
helping
out-
and
I
expect
you
to
continue
your
nomadic
life
as
we
make
up
meetings
in
in
bangkok
and
and
madrid.
So
you
know,
but
that's
not
why
I
got
up.
I
wanted
to
talk
about
the
a
bit
about
the
ietf
endowment
for
a
moment.
N
The
we
are
now
for
several
meetings
had
an
option
on
the
registration
to
donate
a
little
money
to
the
ietf,
and
I've
been
doing
that
for
the
last
few
meetings
and
since
it's
been
available
and
it's
an
easy
way
to
chuck
a
few
extra
bucks
there-
and
I
was
talking
with
lee
berkeley
during
the
hackathon-
and
she
said
now
that
money
is
going
to
the
endowment.
So
it's
getting
the
benefit
of
the
matched
funds
from
isoc.
N
D
D
Okay,
this
was
very
short.
Thank
you
very
much
up.
Next
is
the
isg,
and
this
is
where
you
hand
over
the
dots,
so
I
think
that
might
be
the
next
slide.
No,
but
we'll
do
it
anyway.
I
have
a
role
so
so,
if
you're
misbehaving,
you
might
also
get
stuck
with
one
of
these
later
on
in
the
bar.
But
for
now
we
have
a
new
incoming
security
area
director
who
gets
his
dot,
which
is
paul
waters
and
andrew
alston
is
a
writing
id.
D
D
Right-
and
I
think
we
go
down
from
paul
and
tell
us
who
you
are-
are
the
online
sorry,
the
secret
language
of
the
itf
has
become
german
in
case
you
weren't
aware
yet
so
fair,
fair
point,
miriah.
D
D
D
Q
So
can
you
can
you
finish
this
table,
though.
D
This
is
not
my
day
andrew,
please,
you're,
still
muted,
while
andrew
is
trying
to
unmute
you.
I
will
tell
you
that
he
sent
me
a
message
on
the
slack
saying.
Is
there
a
way
for
my
wife
to
watch
this
without
being
registered,
and
I
said
yes
there's
a
youtube
link
and
then
he
went
downstairs
to
give
her
the
link,
and
she
said
she
invited
a
whole
bunch
of
friends
over
and
they're
having
a
party
to
see
me
become
an
air
director
which
is
great.
D
Thank
you
and
remote.
We
have
murray
from
art,
we
have
john
from
routing.
We
have
roman
from
transport.
What
are
you
doing
with
transport?
Why
is
it
roman?
D
Who
is
not
in
transport,
but
in
security
we
have
eric
klein,
who
is
in
ind?
We
have
van
gater
who's
outgoing
for
security,
rob
wilton's
here,
warren
kumar
is
here?
Okay,
that's
it!
I
think
questions
oh
yeah
martial's
outgoing
questions
for
the
iesg.
Please
do
we
have
people
in
the
queue.
D
G
Okay
and
then
I
will
try
to
read
you
the
online
people,
but
you
also
have
them
on
the
stream.
So
we
have
van
is
outgoing.
We
have
deborah
there.
Wes
is
with
us
colin
senben,
we
david
you're.
Here
we
have
tommy
russ
giancan
colin,
as
the
irtf
chair
john,
should
be
with
us
as
the
inter
temporary
rfc
series,
editor
mallory,
new
incoming
iab
member
and
chin,
also
new
incoming
ib
member
and
now
we
would
take
questions.
S
Same
problem
every
single
time,
lars
c1
lee
man.
From
that
note,
this
is
not
actually
a
question
but
of
offering
my
my
as
a
volunteer.
You
mentioned
before
that
you're
looking
for
a
volunteer
to
sit
on
the
roof
service
system,
governance
working
group.
S
I'm
already
on
it,
that's
that's
the
point.
If
anyone
on
here
wants
to
know
anything
about
what's
going
on
in
that
working
group,
I
think
I'm
the
only
member
actual
member
from
that
working
group
there.
You
are,
sir,
I
forgot
so
there
at
least
two
of
us
here
then.
So,
if
you
want
have
any
questions
about
that
come
and
see
me,
I
won't
offer
you
without
your
consent,
but
I'm
here,
if
you
want
to
talk
about
it,.
G
Okay,
thank
you
thank
you
for
showing
showing
your
face.
So
people
can
thank
you
yeah.
This
is
definitely
thank
you.
Yes,
yes,
this
is
definitely
a
position
where
we
were
really
looking
for
a
qualified
volunteer
who
can
bring
in
some
knowledge
and
and
help
guiding
the
process
there.
I
So
I
just
like
to
comment
one
of
the
things.
That's
always
a
unique
challenge
is
there's
a
lot
of
positions.
The
iab
does
end
up
appointing
for,
and
so
definitely
talk
to
your
local
iad
member,
including
you
know,
I'm
willing
to
answer
questions
well
about
stuff,
so
we're
always
looking
you
know.
We've
always
been
looking
for
good
candidates
for
many
of
the
positions.
So
if
you
have
extra
time,
please
let
us
know.
G
Yeah,
that's
also
a
good
point,
so
it's
like
some
of
these
positions.
We
need
very
specified
expertise,
so
it's
not
like
a
huge
set
where
you
should
drawing
from,
and
it's
always
hard
to
find
a
diverse
set
of
candidates
and
also
selecting
people
who
might
bring
into
some
more
diversity,
and
so
some
of
these
sports.
So
the
more
volunteers
we
have
for
any
of
these
positions,
the
better.