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From YouTube: IETF98-TUTORIAL-NEWCOMERS-20170326-1230
Description
NEWCOMERS tutorial session at IETF98
A
Okay,
I
think
I'm
gonna
go
ahead
and
get
started.
Unfortunately,
I
was
hoping
for
a
lavalier
mic.
So
if
I,
if
you
get
to
the
point
where
you
can't
hear
me
because
I'm
not
paying
attention
to
where
this
microphone
is,
please
let
me
know:
Mike
st.
John's,
I'm
giving
a
newcomers
briefing
I
have
the
dubious
honor
of
attending
more
of
the
IHF
meetings.
Anybody
else
I
think
this
is
my
93rd.
If
I
remember
correctly
so,
does
anybody
recognize
that
anybody
I
got
one
couple
three?
Okay,
this
is
from
a
game
called
adventure.
A
It's
a
text
text
game
from
way
back
when
my
time,
maybe
not
your
time,
if
you
will
and
the
words
just
after
this
were
welcome
to
adventure,
would
you
like
instructions?
This
is
really
what
this
thing
this
session
is
all
about,
explaining
to
you
how
to
survive
the
adventure
or
the
crystal
cave
or
whatever.
You
want
to
call
it.
The
ietf
first
meeting
for
you
so
you're
going
to
I'm
not
going
to
really
deeply
into
this,
but
you're
going
to
see
this
in
pretty
much
every
session
you
attend
here.
A
This
is
the
NIE
TS
intellectual
property
policy.
This
basically
says
that
if
you're
in
90th
meeting
and
talk
in
public,
pretty
much
anything,
you
saying
is
an
ietf
contribution.
Be
aware
that
if
you
want
privacy-
or
you
want
confidentiality,
don't
get
up
in
the
middle
of
one
of
these
meetings
and
talk
about
it,
because
it
will
show
up
in
somebody's
document
some
way
along
the
way.
So
please
do
get
a
chance.
Take
a
chance
and
read
this
say:
take
some
time
and
read
this
a
little
bit
later.
A
Okay,
continuing
this
presentation
is
about
the
meeting-
it's
not
about
the
ietf
per
se.
It's
about
how
to
get
the
most
out
of
your
time
in
these
five
days,
at
five
or
six
days
that
you're
here,
there's
history,
the
IHF,
the
tao
of
the
IHF,
it's
available,
there's
a
URL,
oh,
listen
later
or
find
somebody
like
me
and
bias
a
beer
and
we'll
explain
more
about
the
IHF
than
you
ever
wanted
to
know
it's
not
about
how
to
write
a
standard.
A
We
don't
want
you
looking
like
this
at
the
end
of
the
meeting
and
believe
me,
there
are
a
number
of
people
who
have
looked
like
that
at
the
end
of
the
meetings.
This
is
an
intense
five
or
six
days
of
a
lot
of
information.
A
lot
of
things
going
on
way
back
when
about
meeting
12
or
13
I
need
to
go.
Look
it
up.
We
had
longest
ever
working
group
session
we've
ever
had
it
started
about
eight
o'clock
in
the
morning
and
ran
but
till
about
two
o'clock
next
day,
2
a.m.
the
next
day.
A
It
was
the
host
requirements
document
our
seas,
11
11,
22
and
11
23.
If
you
get
a
chance,
they're
still
actually
really
interesting
and
useful
documents,
even
as
old
as
they
are,
but
some
of
the
choices
that
are
in
that
document
were
fueled
by
basically
complete
exhaustion
more
than
reasonable
reasonable
choices.
A
I'm
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
about
just
what
the
IETF
is
again
enough
to
get
you
some
context
for,
what's
going
on
here,
we're
going
to
compare
the
IETF
other
standards,
development
organizations
and
talk
a
little
bit
of
about
our
culture
and
the
IDF
does
have
a
culture,
and
it's
important
for
you
to
understand.
What's
going
on
here,
etiquette
basics,
about
how
you
how
you
want
to
participate
in
this
meeting?
A
A
Originally,
it
was
an
engineering
organization
design
that
had
the
purpose
of
getting
the
NASA
science
internet,
nanus,
f,
net
department
of
energy's
es
net,
the
mill
net
and
the
ARPANET.
Basically
it
was
a
tie.
It
was
a
united
states,
government,
proprietary
research
task
force
that
was
designed
to
put
the
beginnings
of
the
internet
together
about
meeting
10.
We
turned
into
a
standards,
development
organization
and
the
internet
changed
from
a
us-centric
US
government,
centric
or
thing
into
something
that
was
much
broader
30
years
later,
and
it
can't
tell
where
were
the
original
stuff
was
anymore.
A
There
are
many
many
working
group
meetings
happening
in
this
in
the
five-week
in
the
five
days
that
you're
going
to
be
here.
The
agenda,
which
I'll
talk
about
a
little
bit
later,
Lissa
pretty
much
every
single
one
of
them
and
you
can
find
information
about
what
those
things
are.
The
working
groups
are
organized
by
areas.
This
is
only
really
important
to
you
right
now,
because
if
you're
rested
in
one,
if
you're
interested
in
a
working
group
or
a
topic,
chances
are
that
topic
is
shared
by
other
things
in
the
same
area.
A
A
Okay,
well,
apparently,
I'm
not
swapping
microphones,
yet
ooh.
That
level
is
high,
I!
Think,
okay,
so
we
know
it's
not
good.
It's
like
feeding
back
end,
okay,
so
the
internet
architecture
board
is
also
an
organized
activity
of
the
Internet
Society
it.
We
are
sibling
organization
with
them
that
in
some
ways
they
for
our
standards
things
they
are
an
externally
facing
organization.
A
Can
you
guys
hear
me
on
the
back?
Okay,
cool
and
you've
got
a
good
level
for
recording
cool,
ok,
so
the
IHF,
like
I
said
as
a
standard
standards,
development
organization
you
can't
just
develop,
though
you
need
to
make
sure
it's
useful,
uniquely
sure
it's
manageable
at
one
point
in
time
the
internet
consisted
of
something
like
ten
networks
and
700
computers.
That
was
30
years
ago.
It's
much
worse.
Now,
if
we
didn't
build
something
that
was
scalable
and
manageable,
we
would
basically
have
gone
out
of
business
and
the
entire
internet
would
have
fallen
over.
A
So
this
is
what
this
organization
was
worth
looking
for.
It
making
sure
that
we
can
continue
to
scale.
We
continue
to
be
manageable.
We
continue
to
have
a
useful
internet,
how
many
of
you
guys
have
participating
other
standards,
development
organizations
like
ISO
or
things
like
that
five
system?
That's
not
that!
Okay,
so
most
of
you
guys
most,
you
guys
won't
have
to
unlearn
anything.
A
If
the
IETF
is
kind
of
a
different
organization,
we
expect
you
to
participate
as
individuals
you're,
not
here
as
representatives
your
company
or
although
your
companies
are
probably
paying
for
you
I
would
guess
we
are
self
selected,
individual
participants,
we
do
things
in
many
ways:
bottom-up.
We
pick
good
ideas
or
ideas.
We
think
that
are
good
and
then
try
and
figure
out
whether
or
not
a
standard
makes
sense.
With
respect
to
that,
there's
no
formal
voting
I'll
talk
a
little
bit
about
how
we
come
to
conclusions
later
on.
A
We
have
no
formal
government
role,
we're
not
charger
by
the
United
States
government,
we're
not
part
of
something
like
I
key
or
ISO.
Traditionalized
stos
generally
have
some
form
of
formal
voting
that
generally
have
organizational
numbers.
Sometimes
they
have
individual
numbers,
but
that's
fairly
rare,
and
sometimes
the
memberships
are
based
on
the
country
you're
in
so
they
also
have
kind
of
wider
set
of
things
to
deal
with
than
we
do.
A
You
can
have
standards,
organizations
that
deal
with
in
were
threads
on
a
screw,
there's
actually
a
standards
organization
that
that
has
a
rest
that
defines
the
the
standard
recipe
for
a
fruitcake
seriously
fruitcake.
They
are
mostly
top
down,
usually
top
down
and
they
are
sometimes
legally
or
treaty
mandated,
or
sometimes
you
have
to
comply
with
them,
because
that's
what
the
law
says
we're
mostly
not
in
that
space
we
will
be
different
than
those
organizations.
A
A
A
We
you're
gonna
have
to
adapt
to
it
if
you
are
coming
in
and
expecting
your
way
to
be
the
way
it
is
it's
not
the
case
over
time
as
you
participate
in
it,
you
will
change
our
culture,
but
it
will
take
a
while.
Don't
expect
that
what
you
think
is
right
should
what
you
think
should
be.
Writing
is
actually
right
in
the
context
of
the
IETF.
Now
I
put
this
last
sentence
here,
just
to
explain
something.
A
A
Okay,
if
you
come
in
with
a
dumb
idea
or
the
idea
that
a
company
wants
it
to
sell
because
they
have
the
patent
on
or
something
like
that,
it
will
be
identified
as
a
dime
idea
and
pretty
much
rejected
in
the
space.
So
dumb
idea
is
forcefully
presented
or
still
dominates.
It
is
a
good
technical
idea.
You
don't
need
to
bring
in
all
the
hundreds
of
hundred
people
to
to
pack
the
rooms
we
don't
vote
and
again
this
is
another
another
thing
you
learn
as
you
do
this
stuff.
A
We
need
three
times
a
year.
There's
at
this
meeting,
I
think
something
on
the
order
of
1200
or
so
well
generally
running
between
a
thousand
and
fifteen
hundred,
depending
upon
where
we're
meeting
and
one
we're
meeting,
we
have
been
up
as
high
as
2400
during
the.com
boom,
but
it's
been
a
while,
since
we've
been
there,
there
are
a
number
of
organized
events.
I
talked
about
the
working
groups,
there
are
130
working
groups
roughly
that
are
active
in
the
IETF
every
every
meeting
we
lose
some.
We
gain
some
on,
but
we've
been
trending
upwards.
A
So
it's
right
around
130
right
now
on.
There
are
a
number
of
birds
of
a
feather
sessions
that
will
show
up
here.
I'll
talk
about
what
a
birds
of
a
feather
section
is:
it's
sort
of
a
proto
working
group.
Internet
research
task
force
also
meets
with
us.
They
generally
have
six
to
seven
sessions
describing
what
they're
doing
area-wide
sessions
those
seven
areas.
I
talked
about
generally
have
a
summary
session.
A
Each
one
of
the
areas
will
meet
at
one
point
in
time
and
you'll
get
reports
from
the
various
working
groups
in
the
area
and
just
an
idea
of
making
sure
that
everything
is
done
in
the
area.
That
nest
needs
to
be
done.
On
the
plenary
up,
we
used
to
have
two
plenary
meetings
on
we've
combined
them.
It's
now
really
long,
there's
a
three-hour
plenary
on
Wednesday
night,
which
is
a
description
of
everything
going
on
in
the
technology,
the
internet
architecture,
space
and
the
Internet
administration,
iaac,
the
internet,
IETF
administrative
oversight
committee.
A
There
will
be
tutorials
and
lunch
sessions.
Those
are
announced
on
the
on
the
mailing
list
and
on
the
agenda.
Some
of
those
may
be
useful
for
you.
There
are
keynote
sessions,
for
example
there
and
that's
that's
one
of
the
the
tutorials
of
lunch
sessions
are
one
of
the
few
ways
that
we
might
look
like
a
normal
conference
for
you.
We
are
not
in
a
little
conference.
We
are
a
working
meeting.
Social
events
you
have
there
are.
A
There
is
no
social
event
per
se
for
this
meeting,
but
you
are
invited
to
the
new
comers
welcome
reception,
which
is
immediately
before
the
Welcome.
The
normal
welcome
reception
I
recommend
that
you
guys
take
an
opportunity
to
go
there,
because
it's
the
opportunity
for
you
to
meet
up
with
the
working
group
chairs
and
the
area
directors
on
a
one-on-one
basis
and
go
up
to
them
in.
A
If
you
have
a
question
about
something
or
an
area
that
you're
interested,
then
walk
in
I
think
usually
the
new
the
new
comers
meet
and
greet
has
a
set
of
tables,
and
there
will
be
a
sign
on
it
with
the
area
on
it.
Go
find
the
area
go,
walk
over
talk
to
people.
Ok,
if
you
find
two
people
with
a
dot
on
their
badge,
the
dots
indicate
various
people
managing
the
IHF
and
I'll
talk
about
a
little
bit
later.
A
But
if
two
people
with
a
daughter
talking,
walk
up
to
them,
saying
I'm
a
newcomer
and
I'd
like
to
actually
talk
to
one
of
you,
it's
ok.
We
want
to
hear
from
you.
We
want
you
to
become
good
participants
in
the
IHF,
which
means
some
case
is
speaking
up
in
face.
Most
cases
means
speaking
up,
so
please
take
the
opportunity
to
meet
these
people
by
the
way
as
newcomers
you're
considered
newcomers
for
five
meetings.
A
So
you,
if
this
is
your
first
meeting,
got
four
more
meetings
to
go
to
newcomers
meet
and
greet,
and
and
and
do
that,
if
you
don't
feel
comfortable
now,
maybe
next
meeting
you
well
so
keep
that
in
mind.
Hackathons
and
coats
prints
are
mostly
over.
There
usually
happening
on
happening
on
on
the
day
before
the
IETF
hackathons
are
just
people
getting
together
to
build
stuff
coats.
Prints
are
people
getting
the
other
build
stuff
for
the
IETF?
Ok,
a
lot
of
the
tools
that
we
use
for
managing
our
process
are
built
by
people
like
you.
A
If
you
want
to
volunteer,
they
have
nice
little
tchotchkes
that
they
give
out.
Saying.
Oh
I
was
a
partisan
I
think
they
were
coins
last
time,
and
then
there
are
a
number
of
non
public
business
meetings
on
that
you'll
you'll
see
that
you
might
see
on
the
the
hotel
schedule,
but
won't
be
on
the
agenda
and
I
will
talk
about
the
noncom
a
little
bit
later
on
nominations
committee
by
the
way.
How
am
I
doing
that?
A
How
am
I
doing
am
I
going
too
fast,
too
slow,
just
okay,
if
you
find
me
going
too
fast
or
too
slow?
Well,
not
so
much
too
slow.
If
you
find
me
going
to
test,
please
speak
up.
If
you
can't
understand
me,
please
speak
up
okay,
disorganized
events.
There
will
be
one
of
the
most
important
thing.
Oh,
there
are
a
couple
more
seats
up
here.
If
you
want,
and
by
the
way
meeting
up,
yeah
well.
A
We
we
need
to
get
a
bigger
room.
We
keep
I,
don't
quite
understand
why
the
newcomers
briefing
keeps
growing
okay.
So
one
of
the
most
important
things
about
the
IETF
meeting
is
meeting
up
with
people.
Your
hallway
meetings
are
going
to
be
possibly
more
important
than
the
actual
working
group
sessions.
A
You
get
an
opportunity
to
meet
some
of
the
people
who
have
been
working
this
for
30
years
or
more
on,
or
you
get
the
opportunity
to
meet
new
people
and
create
friendships
and
working
relationships
that
you
can
using
for
the
next
10
to
20
years.
We've
got
people
here
who
have
been
through
maybe
10
different
companies,
but
the
one
constant
is
they
show
off
at
the
IETF.
So
the
hallways
meanings
are
really
useful
for
you
on
either
even
on
a
technical
session
or
on
just
a
getting
to
know.
A
People
bar
boss,
occasionally
we'll
have
something
that
is
not
baked
enough
for
a
formal
birds
of
a
feather.
It's
a
bunch
of
people
want
to
talk
about
an
idea
that
there
maybe
not
quite
sure
how
to
go
forward
in
the
idea.
You'll
get
these
people
saying
here's
a
barb
off.
All
that
is
is
an
informal
gathering
of
people.
It
is
sometimes
in
a
bar
on
and
it
sometimes
and
if
it's
in
the
bar,
sometimes
it's
hosted,
which
means
they'll
buy
the
beer,
so
you
know
look
look
out
for
those.
A
Sometimes
you'll
find
them
honey
if
you're
wandering
around
the
hotel
or
go
or
the
the
conference
area.
Occasionally
you'll
find
clusters
of
people
usually
all
facing
inwards.
Six,
seven,
eight,
nine
ten
people
typing
away
roughly
marathoning
sessions.
Please
leave
the
people
alone.
Unless
you
know
what
the
session
is
about,
they're
working
on
YouTube
will
be
there
at
some
point
along
the
way,
but
we
get
a.
We
get
a
lot
of
that
going
on
it.
A
The
we
use
this
time
to
interact
very
quickly
and
get
a
lot
of
things
done
in
a
very
short
period
of
time
and
again,
sometimes
the
informal
stuff
is
more
important
than
actual
formal
stuff
is
in
there.
There
are
three
different
ways
of
getting
the
agenda:
there's
two
URLs
and
the
two
then,
and
the
apps
have
how
many
people
here
have
downloaded
the
IETF
at
good?
A
Does
it
make
its
it?
Does
it
make
sense?
Okay,
so
the
app
the
app
is
your
friend
use
it.
The
the
data
tracker
is
your
friend
use.
All
of
this
stuff
will
help
you
understand.
What's
going
on
in
the
working
group
meeting,
if
you're
going
to
go
to
a
working
group
meeting,
one
of
the
most
important
things
you
can
do
is
take
a
look
at
the
agenda
for
the
working
group
and
sometimes
take
a
quick
look,
at
least
at
the
abstracts
of
the
documents
that
are
going
to
be
discussed.
A
So
all
that
should
be
available
through
the
through
the
tool.
So
you
have
here,
these
are
pretty
simple.
Please
be
respectful
to
other
people,
will
try
and
be
respectful
to
you
and
I
said.
Try
it's
just
like
that.
Introduce
yourself.
If
you
don't
talk,
we
won't
hear
you
simple.
As
that,
don't
harass
the
other
people,
we
have
a
harassment
policy
if
you
feel
you're
being
harassed.
A
Let
someone
know,
and
by
that
I
mean
look
for
somebody
who
has
a
dot
on
their
thing
and
not
one
of
the
not
one
of
those
smiley
faces,
but
one
of
the
solid
dots
tell
them
that
you've
got
a
problem.
Ask
them
to
help
you
there's.
Actually
an
ombudsman
there's
actually
an
Ombuds
team,
three
people
who
are
responsible
for
this,
but
to
be
honest,
getting
that
data
is
harder
than
just
telling
you
to
find
somebody
with
the
dot.
The
guys
with
the
dot
will
be
able
to
help.
You
find
the
right
people
to
help
you.
A
Okay,
don't
hog
the
food
I'm
going
in
to
the
Welcome
Reception
things
like
that.
It
looks
a
little
bit
like
army
ants,
you
know
they
surround
the
food
and
they
walk
away
and
there's
nothing
left.
So
please
grab
something
walk
away.
Munch
talk
to
people
go
back.
If
you
want
more,
but
let's
let
other
everybody
else
get
a
chance
at
it.
A
Don't
leave
your
bar
bag
and
guarded
it
is
we've
had
things
stolen,
we're
actually
a
pretty
good
group
of
people,
but
you
get
people
in
and
not
from
off
of
the
street,
or
you
get
just
confusion
about
where
the
bags
are
just
watch
what's
going
on,
we
really
really
do
care
that
you
have
a
good
meeting
and
losing
your
laptop
or
your
passport
or
your
keys
is
a
really
bad
way
of
starting.
Please
remember
to
sleep.
This
is
depending
upon
what
you're
working
on
that
actually
may
be
a
hard
thing.
A
You
might
find
yourself
up
at
two
or
three
in
the
morning.
Still
talking
with
that
guys
in
that
cluster
of
people
typing
right
away
and
do
remember
you
enjoy
yourself
you're
in
Chicago,
it's
a
neat
city
get
outside
at
least
once
or
twice
just
to
wander
around
and
see
what
the
city
looks
like
working
groups.
A
working
group
is
where
the
main
work
of
the
IHF
is
done.
It
is
a
long-term
organization.
It
starts
with
a
charter.
A
It
generally
has
a
number
of
work
items
that
it's
responsible
for
basically,
documents
that
is
supposed
to
get
through
the
standardization
there's
a
schedule.
It
continues
on
between
the
IETF
meetings.
It
doesn't
just
go
away
and
go
in
silent,
and
most
of
the
work
is
done
on
the
IETF
I'm.
The
mailing
list.
Research
are
related
to
that
working
group
generally,
it
gets
preceded
by
a
birds
of
a
feather
birds
of
the
fete.
A
Oh
sorry,
one
of
the
things
you
need
to
understand
about
this
is
the
working
groups
are
not
tutorial
in
any
way
shape
or
form.
Okay,
if
you're
expecting
to
learn
something,
read
the
documents
and
then
listen
to
what
they're
talking
about.
If
you
go
in
expecting
to
be
taught,
you
will
be
disappointed.
Okay,
birds
of
a
feather
tend
to
be
a
little
bit
more
tutorial
because
it's
about
a
new
idea
and
it's
about
convincing
people
that
this
idea
is
something
we
want
to
do
they
generally
perceived
the
thing.
A
They
generally
consider
the
Charter
we're
going
to
get
convincing
an
area
director
that
it's
a
valid
topic.
He
says.
Yes,
he
signs
off
in
the
agenda
any
schedules
that
he
schedules
it
with
the
Secretariat
on
the
agenda.
They
generally
only
meet
once
it's
really
rare
for
a
bot
birds
of
a
feather
MTG,
multiple
meetings.
Occasionally
you
know
what
happens.
Is
you
had
an
idea?
The
discussion
of
meeting
says
yeah.
You
were
going
this
direction.
A
A
For
example,
the
involvement
in
the
IETF
and
privacy
in
internet
privacy
becomes
could
have
been
one
of
those
things.
It's
not
something
that
you
can
put
into
standards
as
a
general
standards
group,
but
it
may
be
something
that
you
want
to
talk
about,
adding
to
like
the
securities
to
the
the
rfcs
as
a
general
consideration.
A
Sorry
pointy
end
of
the
stick
refers
to
the
point
of
sphere.
That's
where
all
the
work
gets
done.
This
is
the
pointy
end
of
the
stick,
for
you
get
all
of
the
areas
are
where
you
want
to
go.
I
mentioned
again,
look
at
the
look
at
the
areas
that
you
you're
working
groups
are
in
to
figure
out
what
you
want
to
work
on.
A
We
work
the
internet
area
and
sort
of
get
into
layer,
2
just
a
tiny
little
bit
mpls,
for
example,
sorry,
layer,
2
3,
and
we
almost
never
get
up
into
the
applications
later.
There's
some
stuff
there.
That's
applications
enabling,
as
opposed
to
a
specific
application
XMPP,
would
be
an
example
of
an
application
layer.
Protocol
jabbers
the
actual
protocol
XMPP,
is
how
it
gets
carried.
So.
A
Only
need
for
a
couple
of
sessions.
This
is
our
opportunity
for
high-bandwidth
time.
We
generally
do
not
pick
up
new
things.
We
sorry,
though,
the
working
group
meeting
is
going
to
be
a
combination
of
resolving
new
things,
possibly
hearing
about
needing
internet-drafts
or
new
documents
that
are
being
added
to
the
charter
or
new
work
items
that
lame
you
wanted
to
add.
They
are
being
screen
recorded.
If
you
want
to
get
up
and
talk,
it's
ok,
there's
the
microphone,
get
up,
say
your
name
you're
an
organization
speak
clearly,
be
brief.
A
We
don't
have
blue
sheets
in
this
meaning
for
some
reason,
I,
don't
know,
there's
an
attendance
sheet,
that's
put
in
on
it's
your
name
and
your
organization.
It's
there
mainly,
so
we
can
figure
out
how
large
of
a
room
you
need
the
next
time
for
the
working
group,
because,
if
you,
you
know,
you
sometimes
think
of
working
groups
going
to
be
10
people
and
it's
500
and
that's
hard
to
sort
of
manage,
so
that
that
provides
it
a
little
thing,
a
little
bit
of
a
hint
to
sign
the
blue
sheets.
A
We
really
want
to
know
you're
there.
A
lot
of
the
things
it
also
gives
us
an
indication
of
people
who
have
been
involved
in
the
process.
So
it's
a
process
management
thing
for
Standardization.
It's
it's
one
of
those
small
little
record-keeping
read
the
agenda
and
drafts
do
listen
and
if
the
speaker's,
not
speaking
clearly
enough,
get
up
and
tell
them
or
tell
somebody
you
tell
them
if
you've
read
the
document
and
you
have
a
useful
continent
if
and
only
if
go
ahead
and
feel
feel
free
to
comment,
be
brief:
don't
hog
a
microphone!
A
Now
everybody
look
around
you
on
the
seats
next
to
you.
If
your
bags
are
there?
Okay,
that's
what
I
mean
here.
Sometimes
you
have
a
room
that
fills
up
and
you're
just
trying
to
get
everybody
in.
If
you
see
that
people
are
waiting
for
receipt,
please
move
your
stuff
off
before
people
asking,
but
do
it
move
it
if
they
ask
you
anyways
so
and
and
if
you
need
to
ask
somebody,
it's
not
considered
impolite
to
do
it.
I
know.
A
Sometimes
it's
it's
hard
with
new
people
to
do
it,
but
please
do
it
side
conversations
avoid
them.
It's
okay
to
make
small
comments
to
the
guy
you're
sitting
with,
but
if
you're
talking
for
more
in
about
three
seconds
the
people
around
you
or
start
going
are
going
to
start
going,
you
dirty
looks
because
you're
not
being
as
quiet
as
you
thought
you
could
be
so
please
go
on
outside
there
is
this
thing
called
jabber
that
we
use
it's
basically
a
chat
room.
A
There
is
a
chat
room
for
every
session
that
the
IETF
holds
I'll
talk
about
Jabbar
a
little
bit
later.
If
you
want
to
ask
a
question,
and
especially
if
you're
non-english
speaker,
but
you
understand
written
English
a
little
bit
better,
it's
okay
to
use
the
jab
channel
to
ask
a
question
to
for
clarification
and
somebody
else,
who's
listening
can
help
you.
So
it's
a
it's
a
way
for
communicating
in
the
meeting
without
actually
making
noise
consensus.
A
The
IETF,
as
I
said,
doesn't
vote.
It
decides
whether
or
not
based
on
what
we
call
rut,
consensus
and
rock
consensus
says
that
most
everybody
thinks
this
is
a
good
idea.
The
people
who
don't
think
it's
a
good
idea.
We've
actually
addressed
the
question.
We
may
not
agree
with
it,
but
we've
at
least
discussed
it
and
disposed
of
it,
okay,
so
occasional
human
being
meeting
that
somebody
will
and
you'll
start
hearing
coming.
Okay,
yeah,
it's
not
to
you
back.
A
So
let
me
give
me
an
example:
humming
is
a
way
of
determining
a
rough
consensus
within
a
group
of
people
without
actually
having
voting
on.
So,
for
example,
let's
try
here.
So
the
question
is:
is
the
room
too
hot,
too
cold
or
just
right
and
I'll?
Ask
the
question
and
when
I
come
to
the
question
that
you
agree
with,
you
will
hum
so
the
amount
of
humming
and
how
loud
it
is,
gives
us
an
indication.
So
how
many
people
here
think
the
room
is
too
hot?
A
Okay,
I
didn't
even
I
didn't
say
thank
you.
I
I
usually
pick
hold
questions
till
the
end,
and
I
probably
should
have
said
this.
Okay,
again
we're
self-selected
picking
working
group.
You
want
to
go
into
your
welcome
in
it.
Okay,
the
whole
thing
about
this
organization
is
you
participate
where
you
want
to
participate
for
as
long
as
high
as
you
want
to
participate
and
for
what
for
everything
you
want
to
do
so
there
is
no
membership
of
working.
There's
no
membership,
the
ITF
for
that
matter.
A
You
are
participants
in
the
IHF
you're,
not
members
of
the
IDK.
In
fact,
we
have
very
few
members
of
the
ifm,
and
actually
these
are
sort
of
the
people
that
are
the
members
identically
identified
as
such.
So
does
that
answer
your
question?
Yeah,
I'm,
sorry,
I!
It's
one
of
those
things
is
so
basic
that
if
somebody
doesn't
ask
the
question,
you
don't
think
it.
You
know
it's
it's
an
assumption
that
you
make
so
okay.
So
most
of
these
I
talked
a
little
bit
about
these
groups.
A
The
internet,
internet
Engineering
steering
group
are
the
collection
and
area
directors,
okay,
so
the
the
seven
area
there's
usually
two
or
three
area
directors,
/,
one
of
those
areas
so
I
think
we've
gotten
18
or
19
I.
Think
I
think
we
got
about
18
of
them.
I've
lost
track
of
how
many
working
group
chairs
you
will
see
a
bunch
of
people
with
these
on
and
you'll
actually
see
people
with
multiple
bet,
multiple
dots.
A
So,
for
example,
the
IAB
chair
is
also
memphis,
a
member
of
the
iesg,
so
he
has
two
dots
and
the
IE
and
the
IETF
chair
is
a
member
of
the
IE,
be
vice
versa.
Nominations
committee:
we
select
our
own
management
folks,
we
select
our
own
management
folks
and
the
nominations
committee
is
how
it's
done
once
you've
been
participating
in
the
organization
for
a
while.
You
can
volunteer
for
the
nominations
committee.
A
If
you've
attended
three
or
the
last
five
meetings,
you
can
vomit,
you
can
be
put
on
the
random
selection
list
and
then
there's
a
random
selection
that
pulls
the
people
from
their
10
voting
members
and
a
bunch
of
other
liaisons
and
they're
responsible
for
picking
the
next
set
of
members
of
the
area
of
the
of
the
next
area
directors
and
that's
chairs
the
next
I
evening,
members
and
next
I
am
saying
internet
of
IETF
and
by
administrative
oversight
committee
on
local
host
and
I.
Look
at
that
and
it
always
looks
yellow
on
that.
A
It's
actually
sort
of
it's
actually
kind
of
a
darker
green.
The
local
hosts
are
the
people
that
are
either
the
host
organization
or
people
we
get.
Who
are
local?
Who
know
about
how
to
how
the
network
is
set
up
here?
How
how
chicago
is
set
up?
They
are
usually
in
the
terminal
room
on.
There
is
a
terminal
room.
If
you
have
questions
about
networking,
these
are
the
guys
to
ask.
They
can
also
tell
you
where
the
great
places
for
pizza
and
beer
and
apparently
coffee
is
a
real
thing.
A
Yeah
I'm,
not
a
coffee
person,
internet
research,
steering
group-
these
are
the
chairs
of
the
I
art
of
the
I
RTF
research
groups
on
RC
editor,
there's
only
one
of
those
and
I'll
talk
about
her
in
a
half
second
she's,
the
she's,
the
person
who's
responsible
for
making
sure
Dean
and
the
drafts
turn
into
RFC
standards.
So
I
kept
Secretariat,
they're
confusing
me.
They
used
to
wander
around
in
the
purple
shirt
then
last
year
they
were
a
black
shirt.
Another
a
blue
shirt.
I
know
they
makes
it
confusing.
A
The
Secretariat
is
a
group
of
contractors
that
manages
the
IETF
kneading
process
and
actually
manage
the
IETF
infrastructure.
They
they
handle
the
servers
that
the
whole
of
our
all
of
our
tools.
They
are
the
got
there
the
meeting
in
a
blurs.
They
are
wonderful
people
I
thank
them.
They
had
their
the
guys
doing.
The
registration
we
usually
end
up
with
there's
a
firm
staff
about
10
plus
to
the
local
registration
staff.
A
A
The
iono
is
the
person
responsible
for
the
parameter
registry,
and
that
is
the
perfect,
and
that
means
that
they
are
responsible
for
changing
for
assigning
bits
and
values
and
spaces
and
fields
and
anything
that
requires
a
relationship
to
a
name
gets
they
they
handle.
So
fifth,
bit
of
the
of
the
third
field
of
DNS,
extended
things.
You
know
they
will
figure
out
what
that
they
will
put
a
registry
which
says
what
that
means.
A
Rc
editor
is
responsible
for
basically
turning
your
crummy
prose
into
good
internet
standards,
so
they
will
take
and
they
will
actually
do
an
editing
pass
on
anything
that
makes
it
to
that
point
and
they
will
turn
it
into
a
a
good
quality,
formal
document
and
they
will
they're
responsible
for
publication
and
production.
So
this
has
come
a
long
long
way.
Anybody
know
what
our
C
stands
for
here:
yeah,
so
requester.
The
way
back
in
nineteen
sixty-nine
I
think
it
was
the
first
RFC
came
out
and
it
was
the
RFC
series.
A
Vapor
sees
the
internet
and
way
perceives
the
IETF.
So
but
it's
now
our
formal
session
on
there's
one
other
piece
of
thing
piece
of
information.
You
should
know:
there's
an
independent
submissions,
editor
and
he's
responsible
for
dealing
with
things
that
aren't
coming
in
from
the
IETF,
but
that
are
sort
of
related
to
what
the
internet
might
be.
A
If
you've
got
an
idea
that
you
might
want
to
publish
that
you
don't
think,
is
mainstream
enough
or
if
you've
got
a
standard,
that
your
company
has
that
your
company
would
like
to
publish
for
reference
for
other
people,
the
independent
submissions
editors.
How
you
do
it?
You
basically
give
him
a
copy
of
the
document
in
RFC
in
internet
draft
format,
and
it
gets
pulping
after
editing,
passes
and
approval.
It
gets
published,
as
I
said
they
keep
changing,
there's
their
shirts.
These
are
now
blue,
but
these
are
good
people
say
hi
to
them.
A
If
you
have
issues
with
hotel
or
things
on
in
those
lines,
they
can
help,
and
sometimes
they
can
even
help
with
things
that
you
never
never
would
have
thought
they
could.
Help
with
on
ray
is
the
administrative
director
for
the
IETF.
He
is
an
employee,
the
Internet
Society.
He
is
responsible
for
overseeing
those
contracts
and
actually
totally
be
dealing
with
the
day-to-day
type
of
things.
I
Anna
staff,
again
you'll,
see
these
people
sitting
out.
I.
A
Think
it's
right
over
in
that
corner
there
I,
usually
it's
amanda,
michelle
and
sabrina
with
the
least
wandering
around
heather,
is
our
RC
editor
and
her
staff
will
be
there.
I
think
Sandy's
here
this
time
around
and
Neville
just
got
reappointed.
Neville
is
not
actually
employer.
The
RFC
he's
actually
a
volunteer
like
you
guys
for
the
specific
job.
A
So
if
you
want
to
become
an
editor
later
on
to
him,
he
can
you
can
explain
to
you
why
you
really
don't
want
to
do
it,
but
you
really
want
you
to
take
it
because
he's
tired
of
it
well.
I
talked
about
this
before
this
is
the
URL.
This
is
everything
you
wanted
to
know
about
the
IETF,
we're
afraid
to
ask
it's
a
little
bit
old,
but
it's
actually
still
pretty
close
to
what
we're
doing.
Today.
There
is
a
meeting
wiki.
A
If
you
haven't
seen
this,
you
should,
if
you
are
looking
especially
for
somebody
to
share
a
cab
with
on
your
way
home
to
the
airport,
you
can
actually
put
post
there
on
a
request
and
tell
them
when
you're
going
and
make
arrangements
to
to
meet
somebody
lots
of
tutorials,
including
the
tutorial,
the
the
NAM,
the
newcomers
briefing
that
was
done
before
I
took
it
over,
which
was
much
more
of
a
history.
So
if
you
want
to
look
at
that,
it's
about
an
hour
and
a
half
worth
of
time,
this
is
Liz.
A
There's
a
working
group
mailing
list.
There
are
and
lots
of
other
mailing
lists,
or
you
like,
there's
the
ietf
a
is
there
look
at
this
figure
out
what
you
want
to
subscribe
to
and
then,
when
you're
done,
when
you
basically
completely
gotten
overwhelmed
by
the
amount
of
email
you're
getting
you
can
reduce
it.
So
you
are
subscribed
to
this.
You're
also
subscribed
to
the
98
all
and
98
attendees
mailing
list.
If
you
check,
if
you
check
the
box
for
it,
so
it's
a
useful
reference.
A
A
A
In
most
cases
you
have
to
ask
to
join
and
the
chair
and
the
membership
will
decide
whether
or
not
you
can
participate,
and
they
won't
do
it
unless
you
actually
have
something
to
contribute
specifically
what
they're
looking
at
so
but
you're
welcome
to
go
in
and
listen,
and
sometimes
the
discussions
will
be
open
for
all
in
those
meetings.
They
tend
to
also
be
a
little
bit
more
tutorial
than
the
normal
working
groups.
Are
newcomers
page
to
page
jabber,
mostly
self
explanatory
jabber,
all
get
into
a
half-second
companions
program?
A
How
many
people
here
came
with
people
who
aren't
attending
the
idf's,
the
family,
friends,
okay,
the
companions
paint.
We
actually
have
a
companions
program
which
allows
which
provides
a
little
bit
of
mechanism
for
people
to
figure
out
how
to
meet
with
other
people
who
are
here
who
are
IETF
widows
and
widows
and
widowers
divorces
whatever
baby.
A
So
it's
a
useful
thing
to
pass
on
to
your
significant
other
or
your
kids
and
there's
also
a
companion
program
badge
which
they
can
get
in
and
and
have
some
of
the
food
with
us
at
the
various
things.
Newcomers
meet
and
greet.
I
talked
about
it's
on
the
agenda
for
just
before
the
Walker
reception.
I
thing
is
that
makes
it's
four
to
five
on.
You
are
all
invited,
you're
invited
from
your
next.
We
heard
it
for
your
fight
for
your
five
meetings.
Again,
please
go
see
there
naveen
con
who's.
A
One
of
the
secretariat
coordinates
the
newcomers
informal
dinner
and
I
think,
last
time
we
actually
had
two
of
them
because
there
were
so
many
people
wanted
wanted
to
go.
So
if
you're
interested
in
meeting
up
with
other
newcomers
and
having
dinner,
send
an
email
to
naveen
and
she'll,
send
you
the
details
and
generally
you
meet
in
lobby
and
move
on
from
there
mentoring
how
many
people
signed
up
for
mentoring
here?
Okay,
that's
good,
there's,
also
a
speed
mentoring
thing
happening
right
after
this
meeting
in
a
different
in
a
different
room.
A
If
you
want
an
opportunity
to
just
go
in
and
and
get
a
quick
one
on
one
with
somebody,
that's
a
good
place
to
go
so
I
do
recommend
the
mentoring
program.
It
hooks
you
up
with
somebody
who
is
who
is
in
your
area
or
in
your
area
of
expertise
and
usually
in
your
language
class
in
your
language
category.
So
it
can
be
helpful
to
get
a
leg
up
on
what
you
want
to
do.
Local
cautions
Chicago
is
a
pretty
safe
city,
but
it's
a
big
city
in
the
United
States.
A
So
please
there,
the
panhandlers
are
not
too
aggressive
and
the
thieves
are
are
usually,
you
know
not
again,
not
too
aggressive
either.
Sorry,
if
you're
at
night
walking
at
night,
please
know
you're
strong.
You
can
walk
in
a
group,
especially
in
this
downtown
area,
because
it
does
quote
it
does
clear
out
at
night
and
it's
a
little
bit-
it's
not
like
walking
into
a
Paris
or
London.
A
If
you
will
Windy
City
it
is
you
seen
what
the
weather
is
like
here
be
aware,
anak
and
you
can
go
on
on
a
completely
sunny
day
and
15
minutes
later.
It
will
be
raining
so
be
aware
of
what
the
weather
can
say.
Watch
your
stuff,
even
the
Congress.
That
again
is
the
most
important
thing.
Okay,
so
some
of
the
people
already
work
through
this
as
some
people
than
on
the
computers
for
the
entire
time.
I've
been
talking,
so
you
mostly
don't
need
this,
but
the
IHF
runs
its
own
network.
A
It
is
one
of
the
best
networks
you'll
ever
connect
to.
We
have
been
doing
this
for
the
meetings,
probably
since
about
meeting
a
door
meeting
nine
and
we've
gone
from
t1
s.
Up
to
you,
know:
multi
gigabits
up
to
I
I
forget
what
we're
at
for
this
particular
one.
We
take
over
the
entire
hotel
network,
both
the
usually
we
take
over
the
hardware,
the
hardwired
stuff
and
and
the
Wi-Fi
we
put
our
own
Wi-Fi
in
the
conference
areas.
A
Anybody
not
extend
to
understand
that
if
you
have
problems,
the
terminal
room
has
the
sheet
on
how
to
deal
with
the
network
network
stuff
they're
printed
out,
so
you
go
and
pick
up
one
there
and
you
can
get
help.
They
are
going
south,
so
jabber
anybody
how
many
people
have
heard
of
Jabbar
here.
Okay,
that's
good.
The
IETF
Jabbar
is
a
protocol
based
on
the
XMPP
protocol
and
it's
a
set
of
conference
rooms,
our
chat
rooms
and
individual
chat
sessions
between
people.
A
There
is
a
chat
room,
a
jabber
chat
room
for
every
single
session,
the
IETF
runs
and
the
format
is
generally
working
group
name
that
jabber
about
IHF
dork.
So
if
you're
in
the
meeting,
you
can
join
the
jabber
room
for
that
meeting
and
ask
questions
if
you
haven't
played
with
Jabbar
before
go
here
for
the
clients
and
here
to
register
an
account.
A
Pretty
straightforward:
the
problem
with
I
people
have
asked
me
to
recommend
clients
and
I,
really
can't
do
that.
The
problem
is
that
keep
changing
and
some
of
them
are
some
of
them.
I
thought
were
great.
Last
year
are
no
longer
maintained
this
year.
So
please
do
your
own
research
again.
If
you
have
some
problems,
usually
there's
somebody
around.
In
fact,
one
of
the
guys
who
runs
a
good
portion
of
the
jab
org
stuff
shows
up
here-
arms
Pete's
ain't
here,
not
anyone
and
finally,
please
take
the
survey
so
I'll
take
questions.
A
A
Seriously,
I
have
better
questions
in
the
last
group.
Okay,
the
whole
point
of
aunty
on
ETF
is
collaboration
and
and
communication.
Okay,
we
want
you
to
be
successful
here.
We
want
you
to
become
the
next
generation
of
people
bringing
forward
the
internet
standards.
So
if
you
get
an
opportunity,
this
is
an
opportunity
for
you
to
communicate,
to
make
friendships
to
make
acquaintances,
to
make
long-term
commercial
successes
of
what
your
of
what
you're
thinking
about
what
your
guide
he
is
into
practice.
Please
speak
up,
please
interact
with
us
and
please
have
a
good
time.