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From YouTube: IETF114 Plenary 20220727 2130
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The plenary session at IETF 114 will be held at 21:30-23:30 UTC on 27 July 2022 providing the usual updates on various administrative and operational topics.
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A
Hi,
it's
good
to
see
you
all
in
person
did.
This
is
not
possible
in
zoom.
This
mass
waving
me
with
each
other
say
hi
to
everybody.
It's
good
to
see.
All
of
you
with
your
masks
on
this
is
great.
All
of
us
want
to
get
on
planes
at
some
point
later
in
the
week.
Let's
make
that
happen,
please.
I
do
not
want
to
stay
longer.
My
wife
will
kill
me
if
the
vacation
doesn't
happen
next
week
and
you
don't
want
to
have
a
out
of
season
opening
up
here.
So
my
name.
C
A
A
Even
spencer
can
match
his
outfit,
which
is,
I
think,
a
little
bit
of
a
challenge
and
the
only
exception.
As
you
see,
I
don't
wear
one
because
I'm
an
active
speaker
because
I'm
actively
speaking
so
I
don't
need
to
wear
one.
I'm
not
doing
it
because
I
think
the
audio
quality
is
better
that
way.
But
when
I'm
sitting
down,
I
will
put
one
on
and
if
I
don't,
somebody
will
surely
remember
me
and
tell
me.
A
This
is
the
node
well,
you've
seen
it
many
times
it's
getting
longer
and
longer,
and
the
font
is
getting
smaller
and
smaller.
Basically,
when
you
participate
in
the
itf,
you
agree
to
some
obligations
and
policies.
One
of
them
for
this
meeting
was
about
masks.
There's
other
ones
such
as
this
closing
ipr
that
you
know
about
you
agree
to
be
civil
to
others
and
follow
the
code
of
conduct
and
or
anti-harassment
procedures.
You
also
agree
to
the
itf
privacy
policy.
A
A
Right
the
agenda
is,
as
usual
me
saying:
welcome
we
have
a
brief
host
update
from
jason
livingwood,
followed
by
some
brief
words
from
the
iatf,
which
actually
say
the
isg.
I
think
the
iab,
the
irtf,
the
nom-com,
the
itf
llc,
the
trust.
We
have,
unfortunately,
a
very
brief
in
moyam
session
for
two
participants
who
passed
away
and
then
we
have
open
mics,
and
this
time
the
order
is
isg.
Iab
llc.
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A
D
D
I'll
just
make
one
quick
mention.
As
a
network
operator,
we
have
been
especially
during
the
pandemic
notice,
that
latency
is
incredibly
important,
working
latency
world
responsiveness
and
there
was
an
l4s
part
of
the
hack
thing
this
week
at
the
beginning
of
the
meeting,
and
it
was
nicely
attended.
There
were
15
companies
participating
in
more
than
30
people,
and
we
really
assured
for
the
first
time
that
low
latency
networking
worked
outside
of
the
lab,
with
multiple
vendor
equipment
and
software
and
so
on.
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A
But
also
seriously,
thank
you.
We
couldn't
do
these
meetings
without
our
sponsors,
as
you
all
know,
and
I
think
the
llc
will
have
a
few
words
later,
but
the
host
is
always
of
a
special
case
because
they
really
do
support
the
meeting
beyond.
You
know
the
usual
support
that
you
get
for
other
things
and
especially
like,
and
you
personally
like
added
a
lot
of
restaurant
recommendations
to
the
wiki.
So
thank
you
for
that.
I
used
them
and
they
worked
out.
A
Well,
I
and
you're
going
above
and
beyond
with
making
some
some
progress
towards
getting
people
to
see
some
art.
I
hear
which
it
didn't
quite
work
yesterday,
so
I
know
that
you're
very
sorry
for
that
and
they're
already
on
the
case,
and
I
try
to
do
something
so
you
guys
can
see
some
art
before
you
leave.
So
thank
you
again
highly
appreciate
it.
A
And
thank
you
to
everybody
else
who
made
this
meeting
happen,
the
secretariat,
who
is
sort
of
also
going
above
and
beyond
this
time,
because
they're
pretty
heavily
hit
with
covet.
So
if
something
isn't
quite
as
smooth
as
it
normally
is
it's
because
they
are
like
a
lot
of
the
third
of
the
people
down
compared
to
another
weeks.
A
So
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
are
managers
who
are
now
doing
on
the
ground
work
again
and
it's,
I
guess
pretty
exciting
and
exhilarating,
and
you
guys
getting
your
steps
in
every
day.
So
that's
good
meet
echo
provides
the
service
for
our
online
participation
and
I
think,
that's
become
a
key
part
of
what
the
ietf
is
these
days
and
we're
very
happy
that
we
have
a
very
robust
remote
participation
facility
that,
together
with
the
fee,
waivers,
makes
it
possible
for
anybody
to
just
join
in
and
participate
in
itf
meetings.
A
The
knox
doing
usually
great
job
also
went
above
and
beyond
the
hotel
had
some
challenges.
I
hear
that
cabling
wasn't
quite
as
good
as
it
normally
is,
and
the
ability
to
pull
cables
was
not
made
easy
by
the
building
itself.
So,
thank
you
for
that.
You've
been
debugging
since
monday.
I
think
it's
gotten
noticeably
better
already
on
tuesday,
and
thank
you
for
that.
A
A
Which
brings
me
to
the
ietf
chair
report,
which
is,
as
usual,
talk
a
little
bit
participants.
We
have
some
statistics
on
kovid
also,
unfortunately,
during
this
meeting
the
plan
for
future
meetings
we're
going
to
talk
a
bit
about
running
experiments,
brief
sort
of
preview
of
other
things
that
is
in
our
written
report,
which
should
already
be
online
sydney's
nodding.
A
So
it's
available
to
you
to
dig
down
into
the
details
and
there's
a
brief
update
from
the
tools
team,
which
I
don't
think
we
actually
have
this
time
so
scratch
that
last
bullet
we
did
a
preview
this
morning.
Nobody
noticed
that
we
needed
more
coffee
by
the
way
that
coffee
service
is
excellent.
So
thank
you
for
arranging
that.
A
But
I
should
have
gone
twice:
oh
that's
what
I
learned
the
participant
statistics.
We
have
significantly
more
people
on
site
compared
to
vienna
in
vienna,
we're
around
300.
We
have
more
than
double
that
on
site.
I
think
we
also
have
more
people
remote
keep
on
going
okay,
so
we
have
almost
1400
people,
which
is
a
actually
a
really
good
number.
I'm
very
happy
about
that,
since
we're
doing
fee
waivers
now,
both
for
in
person
and
for
remote
attendance.
A
A
He
got
seven
requests
and
granted
six
and
I
got
two
and
I
granted
one
fyi
that's
available,
but
it's
at
our
discretion
and
you
can
send
us
email
if
you
want
to
use
one
of
those
in
future
and
we
have
273
hackathon
registrations,
which
is,
I
think,
the
usual
solid
number.
I
can't
remember
if
it's.
I
think
it's
also
a
lot
bigger
than
it
had
been
in
vienna
and
we
had
223
on-site
and
50
remote
and
doing
25
projects.
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A
A
A
A
Thank
you
all
right
covet
cases.
So,
as
of
today,
we
had
nine
reported
cases
and
in
vienna
we
had
nine
reported
cases
for
the
entire
week,
so
basically
at
about
doublish
what
we
ran
beyond
that,
which
isn't
necessarily
surprising
given
that
we're
also
twice
the
people
right,
so
it's
actually
a
reasonably
good
number.
Obviously
every
case
is
one
case
too
many,
but
you
can
never
really
go
down
to
zero.
A
Unfortunately,
and
as
I
mentioned,
the
secretariat
unfortunately
makes
up
a
large
fraction
of
those
nine,
so
they're
and
operating
at
a
reduced
capacity.
There's
three
tests
available
and
they
usually
seem
to
be
gone.
So
it's
good
that
you
guys
use
them,
keep
using
them,
there's
also
free
masks
and
sanitizer
and
advil,
and
whatever
you
want
right
and
if
you
do
get
infected
test
positive
or
to
have
symptoms,
please
go
to
your
room
and
contact
support.
Itf.Org
and
they'll.
Take
care
of
you.
A
Those
of
you
who
are
chairs
probably
noticed
this
more
than
others,
but
we
had
way
more
requests
for
session
time
for
114
than
we
had
session
time
available,
and
so
the
isg
made
a
difficult
decision
that
we're
going
to
limit
all
working
groups
to
at
most
two
hours
of
session
time,
which
isn't
great
right.
There's
many
groups
that
could
have
used
more
time
productively
and
we
cut
their
time.
A
A
A
We
tried
that
I
think
during
one
online
meeting,
but
the
downside
is
it
causes
conflicts
because
you
have
now
nine
tracks
in
parallel
instead
of
eight,
and
it
also
means
that
every
individual
session
obviously
gets
a
little
bit
fewer
participants
because
there's
one
extra
thing
happening,
plus
we
contracted
hotels
already
quite
some
years
out
and
it's
not
clear
whether
all
of
them
can
support
an
additional
track.
So
this
is
not
without
downsides
either,
and
you
know
we
could
do
a
combination
of
debuff
or
or
something
else,
and
we
want.
A
A
One
is
a
continuation
of
the
rfc
8989
nomcom
eligibility
requirements,
experiment
that
rfc
defined
two
additional
paths
to
become
eligible
for
the
non-common
addition
to
the
one
that
we
had
before,
which
is
basically
through
meeting
attendance.
The
additional
paths
are
being
in
leadership
of
a
working
group
or
secretary
or
being
a
document
author.
A
This
is
sort
of
the
equivalent
of
the
in-person
badge
pickup,
because
we
also
take
people
out
of
the
pool
that
registered
for
in-person.
But
the
batch
doesn't
get
picked
up
all
week
long
and
there
was
a
bug
in
how
the
data
got
merged
and
that
data
got
fixed
and
the
calculation
got
rerun.
So
rich
is
now
running
with
good
data.
It
has
run
with
good
data
and
we
have
a
buff
schedule.
Experiment
where
we
leave
some
extra
time
for
ads
to
work
with
both
proponents
on
getting
their
buff
into
shape.
A
We
made
two
announcements:
the
first
one
was
related
to
the
experiment
that
I
just
talked
about.
The
second
one
is
that
we
instructed
the
rpc
to
go
ahead
with
all
archiving
or
48
communications
in
a
public
archive,
and
there
are
links
to
the
email
announcements.
If
that's
new
to
you,
you
want
to
look
it
up.
A
So
if
you,
if
you're
interested
in
more
information,
you
can
go
to
that
link
and
to
the
presentations
and
write
ups
that
are
linked
from
that
url
and
there's
a
blog
that
greg
fills
every
week
with
new
things
and
he
might
hit
you
up
to
help
him
write
a
blog
about
whatever
you're
doing
in
the
itf
and
if
he
does
that,
please
help
him
out.
Thank
you,
and
that
brings
us
to
miriam.
F
F
Yes,
I
will
only
highlight
a
few
things
if
you
want
to
know
more
about
what
the
iab
is
doing,
there's
a
full
report
already
uploaded.
I
just
want
to
mention
two
quick
things.
We
created
two
new
administrative
support
groups.
These
are
just
small
groups
that
help
us
to
do
our
job
and
fulfill
our
responsibilities.
F
F
Yeah
one
nice
announcement
is
where
just
send
out
a
call
for
organizing
a
workshop.
This
workshop
will
be
about
management
techniques
and
encrypted
networks.
We
want
to
learn
in
this
workshop,
what
are
requirements
in
encrypted
network
and
also
for
securing
management
that
are
actionable.
So
what
are
the
things
that
we
really
can
change
in
future
and
who's
willing
to
work
on
these
solutions,
and
how
could
those
solutions
look
like
and
that's
what
we
want
to
discuss
about?
F
F
F
Thank
you
to
all
of
you
and,
as
I
just
said,
we're
always
looking
for
some
candidates
and
we
have
two
open
calls
for
feedback
and
that's
actually
the
lower
point
on
the
side,
and
you
can
send
us
feedback
about
these.
You
find
more
information
on
the
ib
webpage,
but
we're
also
looking
for
a
new
laser
manager
for
ice
for
specific
iso
group.
F
This
is
always
a
little
bit
hard
to
find
because
we
look
for
people
who
have
like
some
experience
in
both
groups
but
effectively.
Actually
here
I
don't
think
you
have
to
have
too
much
iso
experience.
You
just
have
to
be
willing
to
learn
to
go
there
to
interact
with
them.
So
if
you
have
any
interest,
please
contact
us.
F
F
We
have
the
rfc
series
approval
board,
nearly
together,
we're
still
looking
for
the
new
rc
series,
consulting
editor,
but
otherwise
we
already
had
a
meeting
on
monday
and
there's
also
a
mailing
list
that
you
can't
subscribe
to,
but
you
can
look
at
the
archives
if
you're
really
interested
and
like
from
the
iab
side,
we
also
close
both
of
the
related
groups.
Here
one
is
the
rsoc
which
was
previously
having
the
oversight
and
then
the
other
one
is
a
program
that
actually
did
all
the
work.
F
F
G
C
G
All
right
all
right,
all
right!
Thank
you.
So,
in
addition
to
the
research,
one
of
the
things
we
organize
in
the
irbf
is
the
applied
networking
research
price.
The
pnrp
is
awarded
for
some
of
the
best
recent
results
in
applied
networking.
It's
awarded
for
interesting
new
research,
which
is
a
potential
relevance
to
the
internet
standards
community
going
forwards,
and
it's
awarded
to
upcoming
people
that
are
likely
to
have
an
impact
on
internet
standards
and
technologies
going
forward.
G
I
believe
both
sam
and
tasha
are
still
at
the
meeting
and
should
be
there
a
week.
So
please
do
look
out
for
them
if
you're
there
in
person
and
the
the
recordings
of
their
that
their
talks.
This
teaser
recordings
available
on
the
irtf
website
and
the
full
talks
should
be
available
on
the
ietf
youtube
channel,
so
yeah,
congratulations
again
to
tasha
her
into
them.
G
Next
slide,
please,
in
addition
to
this,
look
out
for
talks
later
this
year
at
the
london
ita
by
gautam,
akiwati,
koren,
kaff
and
daniel
wagner,
who
will
be
receiving
the
a
rp
at
the
london
meeting
and
also
we're
planning
on
opening
the
nominations
for
the
2023
awards
in
september
this
year.
So
please
do
so
we'll
look
out
for
the
the
call
for
nominations
and
nominate
any
interesting,
applied,
networking
work
which
which
you're
aware
of
for
the
awards
next
year.
G
Next
slide,
in
addition
to
the
applied
networking
research
process,
we
also
organized
the
a
rw
in
conjunction
with
acm
sitcom.
This
workshop
took
place
yesterday,
I'd
like
to
thank
tj,
chung
mao
and
fired,
who
were
the
workshop
co-chairs
also
the
the
watcher
program
committee
for
for
all
their
efforts.
In
putting
this
workshop
together,
we
had
four
four
new
research
papers.
G
Lucas
gave
a
great
keynote
and
we
had
some
really
nice
invited
talks
on
novel
approaches
to
protocol
specification
and
some
of
the
problems
in
specifying
protocols
and
again
look
out
for
the
the
recordings
of
those
those
talks
on
on
the
itf's
youtube
channel,
we're
planning
on
continuing
this
next
year.
The
a
rw
for
for
next
year
will
take
place
in
san
francisco
co-locating
with
itf-117
next
slide.
G
G
G
G
C
I
H
H
H
There
we
go
there's
a
page
missing,
but
all
right,
okay,
so
we're
running
behind.
I
do
want
to
thank
the
secretariat
for
all
their
help.
They,
the
only
people
involved
in
this
process,
who've
been
with
been
through
it
more
than
everybody
else
put
together.
So
as
soon
as
I
was
announced,
I
got
a
whole
mail
bunch
of
mail
with
a
whole
bunch
of
links
and
tools,
most
of
which
I
now
understand
and
also
the
tools
team.
H
In
particular,
robert
sparks
lars
talked
about
how
the
data
tracker
pardon
me:
algorithms
were
fixed
and
updated
and
anytime
somebody
said.
Oh,
I
didn't
mean
to
volunteer
almost
as
quick
as
I
could
ask
him
to
remove
them
from
the
list
they
did.
So.
Thank
you,
robert
calendar.
The
volunteering
is
closed.
As
I
said
closed
saturday
morning,
planning
on
picking
the
committee
next
wednesday,
monday
or
tuesday
I'll
send
out
the
you
know
the
reference
code
for
the
37-13.
H
One
of
the
things
we
need
to
before
we
final
after
sorry
after
the
committee's
picked
there's
a
two-week
challenge
period
expect
in
the
rfc
by
the
end
of
next
week.
Everyone
llc
trust
iesg.
Someone
will
need.
Iab
will
need
to
give
me
their
position
descriptions
so
that
somebody
reads
the
description
and
says:
oh,
that's
a
lot
easier
to
it's
a
lot
easier
to
be
an
area
director
than
to
be
on
nom-com.
So
please
disqualify
me!
H
We
want
to
be
able
to
handle
that
so
I'll
be
sending
out
mail
to
remind
people
we're
going
to
have
a
flurry
of
nom-com
meetings
next
month.
Normally
in
the
normal
sequence
of
events,
we'd
be
having
a
bunch
of
meetings
in
person
during
this
ietf
or
yeah
this
itf,
but
obviously
with
covid
and
the
hybrid
meetings
we
got
to
a
late
start.
We're
not
going
to
have
in-person
meetings,
so
we're
going
to
have
a
whole
bunch
of
online
meetings.
Virtual
meetings
after
the
committee
is
picked,
which
is
basically
three
weeks
from
now.
H
I
think
we'll
be
able
to
make
up
that
late
start
should
should
be
able
to
follow
the
standard
procedures
and
timelines
that
are
listed,
for
example
in
the
appendix
of
the
nomcom
procedures
rfc
within
a
couple
of
weeks,
but
it's
going
to
be,
you
know
some
rushing
to
catch
up,
how
we
meet
where
we
meet.
As
I
said,
it's
all
virtual,
the
logistics
of
that
are
unclear.
It
will
all
depend
on
the
geographic
distribution
of
the
committee
members.
H
Positions
opened,
I
did
send
out
mail
just
before
the
itf,
but
first
the
liaisons,
the
the
liaisons
are
a
number
of
them
from
most
of
the
affected
bodies.
Like
the
nom-com
chair
me,
they
don't
vote
on
the
who
is
picked,
but
they
vote
like
me
on
everything
else.
So
the
ib
is
colin.
The
iesg
martin,
duke
the
llc,
is
jason.
H
The
it
trust
is
kathleen
moriarty
and
then
nom-com
is
my
predecessor,
gabe
montenegro,
who
I've
already
had
a
couple
of
meetings
with
to
talk
about
how
it
goes,
the
open
positions
and
the
job
descriptions.
I
sent
out
a
tentative
list
of
what
the
open
positions
are.
I
think
the
iab
had
a
lot
of
question
marks,
but
the
people
have
qualified
what
they're
planning
they'll
be
in
mail
in
the
itef,
announce
mailing
list
and
also
on
the
com.
The
nomicom
data
tracker
pages.
So
look
for
that.
The
week
after
the
ietf.
A
J
J
J
So
one
of
the
things
that
we've
just
started
at
this
meeting
is
providing
some
child
care
for
people
who
may
not
be
able
to
participate
or
not
as
easily
participate
if
they
didn't
have
child
care
to
allow
them
to
fully
engage
in
the
meeting
process,
and
these
are
just
a
few
quotes
from
folks
who
take
advantage
of
it.
This
meeting
we're
planning
to
set
something
up
like
this
again
for
1
15..
J
So
that
is
an
entirely
new
area
of
support
for
the
ietf
activities
and
you
may
have
read
on
the
blog
thanks
for
the
plug
lars
about
the
blog
earlier.
The
effort
that
we're
taking
to
understand
what
the
carbon
footprint
is
of
ietf
activities
and
how
we
might
offset
them
so
expect
more
news
about
that
later,
and
thanks
again
to
oracle.
For
the
supporter.
J
J
In
addition
to
the
organizational
level
support
for
sponsors,
we
also
have
a
lot
of
individuals
that
contribute
to
making
the
itf
work
better.
The
code
sprint
and
you
can
read
the
names
here.
Each
of
them
participated
on
the
code
spin
on
saturday
to
improve
the
tools
that
probably
all
of
you
use
in
your
work
at
the
itf.
J
J
J
And
sort
of
now
shifting
to
looking
forward,
we
have
amazing
ongoing
support
from
global
hosts
and
global
supporters.
So
these
are
companies
that
are
committed
to
larger
or
multi-year
support
for
the
ietf
and
its
meetings,
and
really
they
provide
a
level
of
stability
that
really
helps
us
in
making
future
plans
work
smoothly.
J
And
to
that
end
we
have
ietf
115,
which
is
the
next
meeting.
I
know
we're
started
right
in
the
middle
of
114,
but
of
course
the
team
working
on
meetings
worked
several
years
ahead,
so
we're
already
looking
forward
to
1
15.
it'll,
be
in
london,
see
the
dates
there
are
sponsorship.
Opportunities
still
available
so
again
feel
free
to
send
an
email
to
sponsorship
at
itf.org
and
be
happy
to
start
a
conversation
about
that
opportunity.
J
This
is
a
very
detailed
and
tiny
and
probably
illegible
for
hard
to
read
anyway
in
the
in
the
room
graph,
but
you
can
find
this
information
on
the
website
as
well.
So
these
are
all
the
dates
and,
and
venues
and
locations
that
we
have
nailed
down,
there's
still
there's
still
some
open
ones.
So
in
terms
of
hosts
so
again
opportunities
there
feel
free
to
reach
out,
and
this
is
just
a
large
amount,
a
lot
of
detail.
J
J
You
can
read
here
what
its
goal
for,
what
it's
about
and
and
what
the
goal
is
for
it,
and
you
can
go
to
that
url
for
more
information
real
quickly.
There
is
a
matching
opportunity
here
so
last
year
the
internet
society
pledged
a
match
for
contributions,
so
we're
in
a
window
where
there's
really
great
opportunity
and,
in
addition
to
our
flagship
donors
like
aaron
and
the
internet,
society
and
ripe
and
and
also
lacnick
individual
contributions
are
also
matched.
D
D
And
next
slide,
so
we
have
some
upcoming
board
meetings.
These
are
always
on
our
website.
The
only
note
here
is
in
august
we've
just
learned
that
we
have
a
bunch
of
board
members
on
vacation,
so
we
may
not
have
quorum
that
one
may
get
rescheduled
or
we
may
just
cancel
it
until
the
september
meeting.
But
anyone
is
welcome
to
participate.
D
D
So
what
are
some
of
the
current
things
that
board's
working
on
one
of
the
primary
things
is
obviously
the
shift
from
you
know
remote
fully
remote
during
the
pandemic
to
now
hybrid,
and
so
we
really
spent
some
time
with
the
secretariat
and
the
executive
director.
Looking
at
what
the
lessons
learned
were
from
vienna
and
then
trying
to
apply
those
here
to
114.,
and
I
think
we've
done
a
great
job,
especially
the
secretariat,
the
employment
location
for
jay.
D
D
We
also
had
our
annual
strategic
planning
retreat
and
went
over
a
bunch
of
issues.
Those
minutes
are
all
published,
so
you
can
see
what
we
talked
about.
We
have
been
placing
a
lot
of
focus
now
that
we
have
lee
berkeley
on
board
on
the
fundraising
progress,
and
this
is
a
key
area
of
focus.
We
have
a
wonderful
matching
program,
courtesy
of
isoc
and
so
are
focused
a
lot
on
seeing
some
real
progress
there.
D
Certainly
not
our
plan
or
or
something
like
this,
just
based
on
the
execution
of
those
things
and
we're
working
with
new
auditors
on
the
annual
audit.
This
is
taking
longer
than
expected
every
few
years,
it's
a
good
practice
to
shift
from
one
auditor
to
another
so
that
they
bring
a
different
perspective.
D
Isoc
recently
recently
changed.
There
has
recommended
a
new
one
for
us,
so
we've
been
following
that
and
we
hope
to
have
that
audit
published
very
very
soon,
and
we
know
our
partners
that
are
isaac
are
eager
for
that
as
well.
And
finally,
we
did
provide
some
feedback
to
the
ietf
trust
on
their
restructuring
consultation
and
we
published
that
in
at
least
one
of
our
recent
meeting
minutes.
So
you
can
see
exactly
what
we
had
sent
to
them
in
their
process
now
onto
budget.
D
D
The
availability
of
you
know
travel
companies,
the
pricing
of
hotel
rooms
and
so
on,
and
we
have
a
bunch
of
knock-on
effects.
So
when
we
have
lower
numbers
of
room
bookings,
we
get
lower
sort
of
meeting
fees
back
from
hotels,
and
you
know
so
it's
sort
of
a
a
bunch
of
different
things.
And
then
the
primary
thing
is
really
the
the
investment
loss.
Now.
The
good
news
here,
such
as
it
is,
I
suppose,
is
that
we
lost
less
than
the
average
market
participant.
D
So
I
guess
that's
a
good
thing.
Our
our
balanced
investment
strategy
paid
off
and
preserved
a
great
deal
of
capital,
but
again
we
also
had
these
sort
of
a
couple
of
random
things
that
happened.
The
first
was
that
the
the
first
tranche
of
investments
that
we
made
when
we
turned
the
cash
we
had
from
isoc
and
and
put
that
into
investments
in
the
market
happened
immediately
after
the
first
stock
market
dip
as
the
pandemic
occurred.
So
that
was
like
good
timing
number
two
one
good
timing.
D
Number
two
was
the
recent
decision
to
make
some
shifts.
That
was
also
beneficial,
but
you
know
we're
doing
as
well
as
we
can,
and
you
know
I
I
wish
my
401k
was
doing
as
well
as
our
investments
here,
probably
be
a
welcome
thing
for
my
family
and
during
open
mic
by
the
way
you
know
sean.
Our
treasurer
is
obviously
here
in
person
and
is
happy
to
take
detailed
questions.
D
I
Thank
you.
I'm
joel
halpern
here
on
behalf
of
the
trust
we're
here
to
stay
out
of
your
way,
but
sometimes
we
can't
quite
do
it
that
well,
so
the
trust
there.
This
is
what
the
trust
is
here
to
do.
We
manage
the
ip
assets,
the
intellectual
property
assets
of
the
ietf
and
related.
Well,
because
related,
is
we
have
some
things
for
ayana
and
trademarks,
so
we
we
keep
track
of
the
trademarks
and
make
sure
they're
registered
and
protected.
I
We
hold
the
copyrights
for
the
ietf
for
the
rfcs.
We
do
so
according
to
the
rules
that
were
laid
out
by
the
ietf
to
make
sure
the
ietf
can
do
its
job.
That's
what
we're
here
to
do
and
we
don't
hold
any
patents
and
we
don't
want
to
hold
any
patents.
That's
not
our
job.
We
also
for
the
llc
hold
the
licenses
for
software
that
they
need
because
we
hold
all
of
the
intellectual
property.
I
This
is
the
current
trust
list.
Glenn
dean
is
our
chair.
He
would
be
up
here,
but
he
couldn't
be
here
this
time.
Kathleen
moriarty
is
our
treasurer.
I'm
a
member
stephen
wegner
and
victor
cursa,
victor,
as
you
saw,
was
appointed
to
the
isaac
board
of
directors
and
isaac,
said:
hey.
You
understand
these
folks
and
sent
him
to
help
us,
which
we
very
much
appreciate.
So
thank
you.
Victor
right
here
he's
started
a
two-year
term
and
we
very
much
appreciate
his
assistance
and
participation,
and
then
you
may
have
noticed
a
small
change
from
previous
years.
I
I
I
I
I
We
brought
in
a
separate
set
of
lawyers
who
special,
who
were
in
a
good
position
to
help
us
with
this,
and
we
held
a
community
consultation
on
this.
There
is
all
the
material
that
was
available
on
the
links,
so
you
can
go
look
at
it.
If
you
still
have
questions
about
why
we're
doing
it
please
get
in
touch.
I
We
very
much
appreciate
the
folks
who
joined
the
webex
and
who
sent
questions
on
email
and
even
the
feedback
from
the
llc.
We
appreciate
everybody's
comments.
We
have
concluded
that
consultation
oops.
I
was
right
there
we're
still
on
this
slide
and
we
have
put
out
an
email
that
says
yes,
as
far
as
we
can
tell,
this
is
still
the
right
thing
to
do
and
we're
going
to
go
ahead
and
do
it
and
unless
somebody
tells
us
something
we
completely
missed.
I
I
One
interesting
thing
that
was
brought
to
us
first
by
staff,
but
has
now
started
coming
up
from
other
parts
of
the
community.
Are
these
ietf
supporter
and
protocol
badges
these
little
badges
that
people
want
to
be
able
to
use
on
web
pages
or
on
other
things
to
say?
I
support
this
activity
or
I
support
the
ietf
and
we
worked
with
our
lawyers
on
what
is
the
licensing
we
can
do
to
make
this
available
as
minimally
with
the
minimally
invasive
as
possible
and
so
see
the
website
for
the
exact
terms.
I
I
So
if
we're
happy
to
do
this
and
we
hold
the
copyright
so
that
there's
no
question
about
where
they
live
and
that
way
we
publish
the
licensing
information
for
it
and
those
are
the
links
for
contacting
us
and
I'll
be
here
for
the
rest
of
the
week.
So
and
most
of
the
trustees
are
here.
So
thank
you
very
much.
A
Thank
you
joe.
This
is
a
the
sad
part
of
this
plenary
because
we
had
two
longtime
community
members
who
have
been
long-time
participants
and
really
drove
different
parts
of
indian
technology
passed
away
in
in
recent
months.
I
think
both
of
them
since
itf-113
in
vienna-
and
I
asked
two
people
who
knew
them
very
well
to
say
a
few
words.
So
first
we're
going
to
have
a
video
from
nathaniel
borenstein
who's
going
to
talk
about
his
friend
ned
freed.
E
E
Then
I
both
shared
an
interest
in
them
in
how
internet
technology
might
help
the
disabled.
That's
one
of
the
reasons
we
have
multi-part
alternative
a
few
years
after
mime.
I
got
to
tell
him
that
at
the
launch
of
my
startup
first
virtual,
almost
nobody
knew
that
our
entire
email-based
help
department
was
a
brilliant
young
quadriplegic.
Man,
john
ferguson
ned
always
smiled
easily,
but
when
he
heard
that
he
looked
as
happy
as
the
father
of
a
newborn,
then
in
later
years,
when
his
own
health
precluded
travel,
he
chose
to
eat
the
ietf's
dog
food.
A
K
K
He
led
the
project
at
isi
to
develop
and
deploy
packet,
video
over
those
networks
and
steve's.
First,
participation
in
ietf
meetings
was
documented
as
being
1988
attending
ietf
number
11.
and,
as
many
of
you
may
recall,
his
lovely
wife
of
40
years
karen
kastner,
often
attended
itf
meetings
with
him.
Steve
went
on
to
found
the
audio
video
transport
working
group
abt
and
served
it
as
its
chair
from
1991
until
2003..
K
He
authored,
15
rfcs
and
in
particular
was
an
author
and
the
principal
editor
of
the
real-time
transport
protocol.
Rtp
specification
beginning
in
1992.
He
was
the
primary
organizer
of
the
movement
to
establish
the
m-bone,
an
experimental
virtual
network
overlaying
the
internet
for
broadcast
of
audio
video
using
multicast
ip
and
rtp
based
applications.
K
It
enabled
live
streaming
of
ietf
meetings,
including
return
audio
from
remote
participants
and
in
many
ways,
was
the
precursor
to
our
hybrid
meet
echo
meetings,
as
well
as
the
multitude
of
video
conferencing
apps
in
our
lives.
Today,
the
mbon
also
carried
the
first
internet.
Radio
broadcasts
provided
audio
chat
rooms
for
network
geeks,
streamed
nasa
tv
of
the
first
hubble
repair
broadcasted
a
rolling
stones
concert
resulting
in
a
newsweek
article,
boldly
displaying
steve
van
jacobson
and
steve
deering
as
our
modern
day
superheroes
and
demonstrating
the
first
distributed
music
performance
with
distributed.
K
Performers
at
the
acm
multimedia
94
conference
in
1995
steve
took
his
expertise
into
the
commercial
arena
to
further
develop
conferencing
and
streaming
applications
at
precept
software
later
acquired
by
cisco
in
1998,
where
he
was
a
distinguished
engineer
and
from
2000
until
retiring
in
2014.
He
shifted
gears
to
work
on
network
performance
measurement
and
routing
analysis.
K
K
For
those
of
you
who
had
the
privilege
to
work
with
steve,
you
know
firsthand
that
he
had
an
encyclopedic
knowledge
about
anything
and
everything
which
he
became
involved
and
he
enjoyed
being
a
keeper
of
the
pre-history
of
the
internet's
evolution
towards
packet,
audio
and
video.
His
attention
to
detail
was
unrivaled
by
anyone.
I
have
ever
met
and
his
meticulousness
motivated
those
of
us
lucky
enough
to
collaborate
with
him
to
bring
our
best
selves
to
the
tasks
at
hand.
K
In
addition
to
his
wisdom,
steve
was
the
consummate
role
model
for
quiet
leadership,
humility
and
kindness,
steve
passed
away
on
the
morning
of
july,
4th
2022
an
auspicious
date
in
the
u.s
celebrated
as
independence
day,
and
I
couldn't
help.
But
imagine
when
the
fireworks
began
in
the
evening
that
the
fireworks
were
celebrating
steve's
life,
all
that
he
accomplished
and
all
the
people
whose
lives
he
touched.
K
K
A
Shifting
gears
it's
time
for
open
mic
as
the
isg
makes
their
way
to
the
stage.
Please
remember
that
if
you
want
to
ask
questions
to
use
the
meat
echo
cue
from
which
I'm
going
to
remove
eve
now,
if
I
can
find
the
button,
but
first
since
we
have
the
opportunity
to
have
many
ids
in
person,
we're
going
to
go
down
the
podium
and
introduce
ourselves.
T
Thank
you,
or
maybe
not.
Thank
you
adrian
farrell.
I'm
I'm
very
appreciative
of
the
work
that
the
isg
does,
and
I
I
know
what's
involved
and
and
how
much
effort
there
is.
I'm
also
definitely
not
pointing
fingers
here,
but
I
suppose,
if
the,
if
the
hat
fits
wear
it
does,
the
isg
have
a
reasonable
expectation
for
how
long
it
should
take
absent
exceptional
circumstances
and
vacations
and
unresponsive
authors
and
so
on
for
a
document
to
move
from
publication
request
to
ietf
last
call.
A
Thanks
for
the
question
adrian,
so
the
isg
is
monitoring
this,
but,
as
you
might
imagine,
or
as
you
know
from
first
in
experience,
that
the
load
is
somewhat
bursty
and
also
differs
quite
a
bit
between
the
areas,
and
so
it's
more
of
a
question
for
how
does
individual
areas?
How
do
they
manage
their
queue
and
for
routing,
for
example,
right
we
added
a
while
ago,
a
third
area
director
to
help
with
the
processing
of
the
documents,
because
routing
had
quite
a
burst
come
for
several
years.
A
A
R
I
don't
have
any
more
concrete
answers
than
what
lars
replied,
except
to
say
that
I
think
that
your
questions
are
good
questions
and
that
they're
ones
that
I
think
that
we
will
take
up
amongst
ourselves
and
perhaps
have
some
more
concrete
answers
at
some
point
in
the
future.
After
we've
had
a
chance
to
discuss
and
thank
you
for
asking.
Q
Yeah
and
I
think
actually,
there
is
something
in
the
data
track
which
is
sort
of
an
aspirational
thing
of
like
14
days
or
something,
but
I
know
sometimes
a
document
arrives
and
it's
possible
to
miss
the
email.
So
you
know
if
something
ends
up
anywhere
ever
stuck
in
the
process,
it
never
hurts
to
just
drop.
The
idea,
note
being
like
just
wanted
to
make
sure.
Q
Q
V
So
there
is
also
when
we
do
an
earlier
review
right.
We
basically
ask
the
authors
to
make
a
revised.
It
takes
time
as
well
right,
so
it's
not
only
there
and
sometimes
as
well.
It
depends
to
me
for
ldd
and
and
drip.
I
want
to
make
a
cluster
of
documents
because
they
make
reference
to
each
other,
so
it
makes
easier
for
the
isg
to
review
them
together
and
for
the
authors
to
change
it
up
together
as
well.
So
sometimes
there
are
delays
like
this,
but
you're
right.
It
should
be
short.
A
H
Q
Q
O
Yeah,
I
mean
to
reiterate
what
warren
said:
we've
talked
about
this
at
the
retreat
and
thinking
of
a
pipeline.
Thank
you
for
the
question.
We
welcome
the
community
to
come
to
engage
us.
What
I'd
probably
say
is
the
areas
are
both
similar
and
kind
of
different,
and
so
there's
commonality
of
the
role
and
there's
differences
in
the
role
so
probably
for
approaching
in
the
area
you're
interested
in
is
the
place
to
start,
certainly
in
security.
Welcome
engagement
thanks.
M
N
A
And
it's
not
sort
of
so
visible
to
the
community,
but
but
most
80s
actually
actively
worry
about
succession
and
building
a
leadership
pipeline.
Basically,
when
they
start
a
job
right,
because
you
you
do
want
to
be
able
to
leave
it
with
somebody
who
can
continue
the
work
and-
and
so
this,
this
sort
of
basically
the
new
incoming
ids
right.
A
That
was
a
discussion
we
had
pretty
early
on
in
in
march
or
april,
like
how
do
you
do
this,
and
so
when
they
write
it,
if
there's
anybody
who's
interested
in
serving
on
any
of
these
bodies?
Frankly,
not
just
the
isg,
but
also
ib
or
llc,
talk
to
the
people
who
is
currently
sitting
and
then
we're
more
than
happy
to
answer
any
questions
you
might
have.
Please
please
do
so.
We
got
to
give
nomcom
a
good
slate
to
select
from.
Q
L
U
The
unmute
button
was
hard
to
find
yeah
when
it
comes
to
the
leadership.
There
was
also,
I
think,
last
time
the
question
raised
about
you
know.
The
working
group
chairs
and
some
observations
being
made
about
old
duplicate,
triple
quadruple
working
group
chairs
was.
Was
that
topic
ever
gotten
to
a
point
where
the
isg
had
some
opinions
or
thoughts
on
this?
U
A
I
don't
think
the
isg
has
discussed
this
at
the
isg
level.
I
think
individual
areas
are
sort
of
constantly
looking
at
what
chairperson
ships
their
groups
need
and
that
there's
another
leadership
pipeline
that
that
just
needs
to
be
maintained
and
built
right.
So
are
you
give
specific
concerns
about
some
working
groups?
Are
you
saying
that
we
have
too
many
chairs
for
some
or
too
few.
U
No,
I
I
I
think,
if
I
remember
correctly,
one
of
the
concerns
raised
was
that
we
have
several
cases
of
individuals
serving
on.
You
know
I
think,
up
to
four
working
groups
and
that
that
might
be
an
opportunity.
You
know,
instead
of
just
waiting
for
you
know
somebody
to
fully
expire
to
broaden
the
basis
by
bringing
more
young
blood
in.
A
God
got
it
thanks
for
clarifying.
I
I
misunderstood
your
question
initially
so
yeah.
We
did
actually
discuss
this
sort
of
it's
not
really
a
problem,
but
this
sort
of
case,
where
you
have
chairs
that
serve
for
a
long
time,
sometimes
decades,
because
it
does
sort
of
in
a
certain
technology
area,
quote
unquote
block
the
ability
for
somebody
new
to
rise
up
right
and
we
didn't
really
conclude
isg
white.
I
personally
decided
that
whenever
we
charter
something-
I
just
you
know,
bug
the
recharging
id
and
say
hey.
A
Q
So
yeah,
actually
an
ops.
I've
been
trying
fairly
hard
to
find
a
third
chair
for
many
of
the
many
of
the
working
groups,
largely
so
we
can
bring
in
somebody
who
hasn't
chaired
before,
or
somebody
who's
somewhat
newer
to
the
ietf
to
serve
as
a
third
chair
gain
some
experience,
sort
of
see
how
it
goes
and
then
maybe
they
transition
into
being
one
of
the
two.
U
Q
S
Let
me
add
to
that:
we've
done
this
repeatedly
over
the
last
couple
days.
We
really
always
are
looking
for
people
to
take
on
new
active
roles.
So
even
if
you're,
a
newcomer,
if
you're
interested
in
sharing,
if
you're
interested
in
becoming
a
document
shepherd,
we
really
need
those
people
and
be
really
happy
to
help,
especially
new
people
integrating
and
becoming
part
of
it
and
the
more
new
people
we
get
the
more
we
can
avoid.
V
And
the
same
thing
in
my
case
right,
so
I
try
very
hard
to
get
shepherd
that
are
not
the
working
group
chair
is
demanding
and
there
is
one
andrew
in
the
room
that
we
recognize
himself
did
a
great
job
because
shepherds
basically
a
way
to
learn
how
the
processes
works.
So
you
are
more
confident
to
accept
a
working
group
chair
and
you
have
seen
the
amount
of
boss.
B
In
in
art
at
least,
we
we
very
much
like
this
whole
model
of
experienced
chair
with
an
inexperienced
chair
to
try
to
breed
new
new
talent
for
for
the
so
that
we
don't
have
the
repetition
problem
that
we
see
we're
already
talking
about
it
for
some
of
the
boss
that
we
held
today.
Where
can
we
get
that
sort
of
pairing?
Can
we
identify
that's
repairing
so
we're
sensitive
to
the
problem
and
we're
trying
to
solve
it
as
early
in
the
process,
as
we
can.
P
I
can
also
just
from
my
side
echo
what
was
said
there
and,
in
fact,
in
one
of
the
working
groups
that
will
be
shortly
charted.
That's
exactly
what
we've
done
a
senior
per
appearing
with
someone
who
hasn't
shared
before
and
that
way
we
can
raise
more
people
up
rather
than
just
increasing
the
duplication
on
people.
Y
This
is
barry
lieber.
I
want
to
sort
of
tie
in
adrian's
question
and
warren's
response
to
it
with
eric's
response
here
that
part
of
it
is
that
the
shepherd
who
writes
up
the
shepherd
right
up
and
often
steps
aside
and
does
nothing
else,
should
be
the
one
who's
following
the
document
through
the
rest
of
the
process
and
should
be
the
one
who
says:
hey
one,
you
dropped
this
one
what's
going
on,
so
this
is
a
word
to
the
shepherds,
not
a
question
to
the
isg.
B
I've
commented
on
ballots
recently
that
the
shepherd
write
up,
for
example,
does
not
get
due
attention.
It's
kind
of
like.
Let's
get
this
out
of
the
way
and
just
get
it
done,
and
that's
kind
of
where
the
we
stopped
hearing
from
the
shepherd.
I'm
trying
to
encourage
more
thorough
handling
from
there.
P
F
M
Q
X
X
F
AB
F
F
We
use
a
little
bit
the
ib
open
meeting,
to
also
give
you
an
idea
about
what
we're
thinking
about
in
the
future,
and
we
have
only
been
using
one
hour
for
that
meeting
because
we
didn't
want
to
take
it
away
from
the
rest
of
the
session
time.
So
we
always
are
very
squeezed
on
time
and
and
very
selective
on
topics.
Z
Just
one
other
comment
there.
I
think
that
report
does
include.
What
have
we
done
is
what
have
we
officially
produced
so
once
we
have
published
an
iab
technical
rfc,
then
that
will
show
up
in
this
case.
We
are
working
on
things,
but
they
were
not
published
yet,
but,
for
example,
we
will
have
an
edm
technical
program
meeting
tomorrow
morning.
Y
Z
AA
I
do
think
that
you
know
the
the
ieb
has
a
lot
of
administrative
tasks
as
we
make
those
appointments.
We
actually
go
through
lots
of
interviews
and
lots
of
discussions
and
they're
important,
but
but
there
are
a
few
things
that
we
have
accomplished
that
we
have.
You
know
that
weren't
on
the
slides,
really
we're
forming
two
new
workshops
coming
up
and
those
will
be
highly
architectural
and
highly
technical
and
there's
a
couple
of
reports
coming
out
from
past
workshops
and
stuff.
AA
C
M
And
they
are
important,
but
but
it's
easy
to
list
the
last
number
of
them,
but
some
of
the
architectural
technical
stuff
actually
takes
a
while.
So
as
mentioned,
there's
one
a
workshop
that
we
now
announced
there's
another
one
on
environmental
impacts
of
the
internet
and
internet
applications.
That's
coming
up
soon
and
it
takes
a
while
to
to
prepare
this.
So
so
that
that's
that's
what's
happening
in
the
background
and
might
be
just
one
one
slide
or
one
item
on
a
report.
But
it
does
take
a
while.
W
A
AD
AD
I
just
have
one
little
suggestion
for
something
to
consider,
because
I
see
on
the
website
that
there's
levels
like
flagship
and
benefactor
and
leadership
and
champion
and
all
these
things-
and
this
is
very
common-
a
lot
of
museums
and
non-profit
organizations
and
to
be
very
blunt,
it's
appealing
to
people's
vanity.
It's
it's
a
way
of
encouraging
people
to
give
a
bit
more
money,
but
the
amounts
of
money
are
not
listed
on
the
web
page.