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From YouTube: IETF114-HACKATHON-20220723-1430
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HACKATHON meeting session at IETF114
2022/07/23 1430
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/114/proceedings/
A
A
A
A
We
met
for
the
first
time
in
person,
after
not
meeting
for
a
couple
years
right
in
vienna,
and
we
had,
I
think
about
100
or
so
people
there.
I
think
where
it
looks
like
we're
going
to
have
about
double
that
here.
So
that's
fantastic
to
see.
I'm
super
excited
about
it.
I
hope
you
are
too
just
wanted
to
get
a
quick
show
of
hands
for
how
many
of
you
this
is
your
first
time
at
an
ietf,
hackathon.
A
Okay,
I
I
thought
there
were
a
lot
of
faces.
I
didn't
recognize
and
part
of
it.
I
thought
was
because
of
mass
and
covid,
but
but
yeah
we
actually
do
have
a
lot
of
new
people,
so
so
welcome.
I.
I
hope
this
is
a
great
experience
for
you.
I
hope
you
really
enjoy
it.
I
we're
we're
a
great
group
of
people
here
at
the
hackathon,
so
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
those
around
you
and
and
those
of
you
who
saw
another
newcomer
here.
A
A
Well,
I
think
you
came
to
the
right
place,
I'm
a
little
biased
because
I've
been
running
the
hackathon
for
a
while
now,
but
but
I
think
it's
a
great
introduction
into
the
ietf
and
a
great
way
to
you
know
really
start
getting
involved
right
away
around
around
code.
That's
implementing
the
standards,
we're
doing
that's
a
big
part
of
the
hackathon.
A
So
so
I
think
you
made
a
great
choice
and
I'm
glad
you're
here
and
then
you
know
kovit
things
are
getting
better
every
day,
still,
fortunately
some
up
and
downs,
but
I'm
wondering
how
many
of
you
this
is
your
first
time
at
an
in-person
event
since
coveted,
so
we
have
a
number
of
that
too.
So
you
know
I'm
glad
you're
here
for
for
those
of
you
who
have
had
a
little
bit
more
experience
with
this.
A
We
have
some
pretty
strict
rules
that
are
a
little
stricter
than
what
you
may
be
used
to
at
conferences
it
it's
okay
to
not
wear
a
mask
when
you're
presenting
it's
like
when
I'm
presenting
today
or
tomorrow
when
we
do
the
presentations,
it's
okay
to
not
wear
a
mask,
obviously
when
you're
eating
or
drinking,
but
but
we
have
been
asked
to
wear
masks.
Otherwise.
A
So
when
you're
in
this
room,
when
you're
working
try
to
keep
your
mask
on
unless
you're
eating
or
drinking,
when
you
leave
the
room
and
go
out
into
the
hallway,
please
make
sure
you
have
a
mask
on
we're
trying
to
keep
mass.
You
know
within
the
ietf
venue
as
much
as
possible,
so
just
to
keep
us
all
safe
since
there
there
will,
thankfully
be
a
large
number
of
us
here
so
well.
A
So
you
know
the
reason
we're
here
is:
I
mentioned
this
a
little
bit
at
the
beginning.
This
is
really
we
want
to
advance
the
pace
and
relevance
of
all
the
work
we
do
in
the
ietf.
You
know
we
do
a
lot
of
great
work
with
standards.
I
think
our
standards
fortunately
get
get
implemented
and
deployed
and
run
the
internet-
that's
fantastic,
but
by
by
working
on
them
by
implementing
them
at
the
same
time
that
we're
we're
writing
them
and
improving
them.
A
You
know
we
really
get
the
best
of
both
worlds
and
we
make
you
know
we
create
some
code
that
people
can
use
to
help
them
in
their
deployment.
So
that's
really
fantastic.
So
I'm
glad
you're
here
and
also
another
big
part
of
the
hackathon
is
to
to
extend
the
ietf
community
and
to
to
welcome
new
people
into
it,
and-
and
I
think
you
saw
with
the
show
of
hands-
we're
we're
doing
well
in
that
regard
as
well.
B
Thank
you,
hi,
I'm
lars
eckerda,
charity
iatf
and
thanks
charles
and
thanks
all
of
you
for
being
here.
I
don't
quite
remember
how
long
we've
been
doing
hackathons
but
must
be
well
over
10
years
now
and
I
think
2015.
So
not
it
feels
like
10
years,
but
but
not
quite
but
they've
certainly
sort
of
become
like
really
one
of
the
best
events.
I
think
around
the
itf.
In
my
opinion,
because
this
is
sort
of
what
it's
all
about
right.
B
It's
like
actually
getting
stuff
done
and
shipped
and
deployed
and
interoperable,
and
while
we
do
that
during
the
week
as
well
right
there
we
care
mostly
about
the
technical
standards
and
then
you
know,
writing
english.
That's
correct
and
easy
to
implement.
But
here
we
actually
write
code,
which
is
a
little
bit
closer
to
what
we
all
want
to
do.
I
think,
rather
in
writing.
Specs
writing
code
feels
like
more
fulfilling.
B
This
time
we
sort
of
relocated
that
here,
so
it's
the
table
over
there
that
I'm
also
hanging
out
those
are
the
people
that
work
on
the
tools
that
make
the
itf
work,
the
data
tracker
xml
to
rfc,
mail
archive
and
so
on.
So
if
you
have
an
interest
in
that,
come
say,
hi
and
and
if
they
have
bugs
file
them
and
we'll
hopefully
get
them
fixed
for
you.
The
other
thing
I
want
to
mention
is
that
there
was
a
noisy
piece
of
equipment
in
that
corner.
The
door
got
closed.
B
So
there's
a
group
up
here,
that's
doing
l4s,
which
is
a
new
congestion
control
thing
for
the
internet
that
originated
on
the
research
side
a
couple
years
ago
and
it's
now
sort
of
getting
close
to
deployment.
So
there's
people
from
comcast
who
are
also
sponsoring
the
meeting,
I
think
there's
some
operators
involved.
I
think
bt
as
well
there's,
I
think
apple
and
meta
and
google
and
some
other
people
who
have
end
systems
and
then
they're,
going
to
try
and
actually
get
this
into
operate.
B
B
Just
let
us
know
ahead
of
time
like
these
guys
did
and
then
we'll
figure
out
how
to
make
that
work
for
you
otherwise
enjoy
the
day.
Keep
your
mess
on
please.
We
already
had
a
corona
case
this
morning
reported.
So
it's
a
thing.
It's
for
your
safety,
it's
for
other
people's
safety.
We
want
to
keep
the
number
down
in
vienna.
We
had,
I
think,
around
five
people
over
the
course
of
the
week,
which
is
a
unfortunately
high
number,
but
it's
actually
a
low
number
compared
to
what
the
corona
people
in
vienna
were
expecting
to
see.
B
A
Okay,
so
you
know
just
a
reminder,
especially
for
those
of
you
who
are
new
to
ietf,
but
really
for
everything
for
everyone.
Everything
we
do
in
ietf
falls
under
the
the
note.
Well,
it's
good
to
if
you
haven't
already
made
yourself
familiar
with
this,
it's
good
to
familiarize
yourself
with
it
it.
You
know
it
talks
about
the
rules
and
procedures
of
the
ietf,
what
it
means
to
participate
in
the
ietf.
So
you
know
good
to
take
a
look
at
that.
A
A
So
if
you're
not
familiar
with
the
note
well,
I
I
recommend
you
do
that
now
project.
So
we
have
a
lot
of
great
projects.
You
heard
about
one
that
I'm
super
excited
a
couple
actually
that
I'm
really
excited
to
have
here
the
code
sprint
and
the
l4s
project,
but
we
have
a
lot
of
other
great
projects
too.
They
are
all
listed
on
the
wiki.
If
you
haven't
taken
a
look
at
all
those
projects
or
figured
out
which
one
you
want
to
work
on,
I
suggest
you
do
that.
A
A
If
you
are
having
a
hard
time
finding
a
project,
we
have
a
a
a
wiki
page,
called
the
lost
and
found,
and
that's
kind
of
to
serve
a
couple
purposes.
One
is
if
you're,
if
you're
looking
for
people
with
partic
particular
expertise
to
join
your
project,
you
can
advertise
that
there,
if
you're,
looking
to
help
a
project-
and
you
have
like
some
some
things-
that
you're
interested
in
or
skills
you
can
offer
you
can
put
that
there
as
well.
So
it's
that
it's
to
help
match
people
the
projects.
A
Okay,
the
agenda.
We
are
running
pretty
much
on
time
and
you
can
see
where
we
are
on
the
agenda,
we're
doing
a
quick
kickoff
here
and
then
you
know
really.
This
first
part
of
the
morning
is
take
some
extra
time
to
make
sure
that
we
get
our
teams
formed
that
and
if
you
haven't
found
a
team,
you
can
come
and
you
need
some
help.
A
You
can
come
talk
to
me,
but
really
talk
to
those
around
you
and
and
let's
try
to
make
sure
that
everyone
finds
a
team
that
they
are
comfortable
in
that
they
feel
they
can
contribute
to,
because
you
know
that's
the
best
way
to
make
the
the
best
use
of
this
weekend.
If,
if
you're
have,
if
you're
struggling
with
that,
don't
just
you
know,
stay
quiet
about
it,
reach
out
and
ask
for
some
help.
A
There's
many
of
us
here
who
are
familiar
with
a
lot
of
the
people
in
a
lot
of
the
projects
and
can
help
you
get
situated
in
order
to
make
it
easy
for
you
to
continue
to
work
on
your
projects.
Throughout
the
day,
lunch
will
be
served
out
where
you
saw
the
snacks
this
morning,
we'll
have
lunch
brought
in.
So
we
welcome
and
encourage
you
to
stay
here
and
have
lunch
with
all
of
us
continue
to
work
on
your
projects.
A
There'll
be
some
some
food,
it
breaks,
and
then
we
will
have
dinner
too
for
those
of
you
who
are
available
to
stay
and
don't
already
have
other
plans,
we'd
love
to
have
you
stay
and
continue
to
to
work
and
network
during
the
evening
to
have
dinner
here,
and
then
the
room
will
close
at
nine
and
we'll
be
pretty
strict
about
that.
You're
welcome
to
continue
to
work
on
your
project
outside.
A
You
can
use
the
ietf
network
and
all
that,
but
we
just
need
to
close
this
room
and
let
the
hotel
staff
like
shut
it
down,
and
so
so
they
can
have
their.
You
know
their
evening
wrapped
up
as
well
the
next
morning
tomorrow
that
the
doors
open
same
time
they
did
today
around
9
30
and
you
can
come
in
lunch-
will
be
provided
again
tomorrow.
A
Those
are
short
just
like
four
minutes
I'll
talk
about
those
a
little
bit
in
a
minute,
but
just
in
terms
of
the
the
timing,
I
wanted
to
point
that
out
and
then
at
four
o'clock.
We
we
want
to
be
done
here
with
all
those
presentations,
because
there's
other
activities
like
newcomers,
events
and
and
the
the
welcome
reception
we
want
to
make
sure
everyone
has
time
to
get
to
those
yeah.
A
If
you
did
have
some
equipment
that
you
brought
in
and
you've
set
it
up
in
here,
you
can
leave
it
overnight
if
you're
comfortable
doing
that.
But
we
do
ask
that
by
five
o'clock
you
have
it
out
of
here,
so
this
room
can
be
turned
over
and
into
the
next
kind
of
setup
that
it's
going
to
have
any
questions
about
the
agenda.
A
Okay,
so
as
we
started
using
gather
as
a
way
to
interact,
especially
with
people
who
aren't
here
in
person,
but
even
for
those
who
are
here
in
person,
we
have
the
the
the
gather
space
that
you
can
go
to
and
there's
kind
of
the
virtual
ietf
in
there.
What
I'm
showing
here
is
from
113
but
it'll,
look
very
similar
for
114..
A
A
A
There
is
this
team
schedule
and
you
can
put
down
in
that
team
schedule.
It's
another
wiki
page
and
especially
if
you
have
remote
participants,
it's
good
to
say
well,
these
particular
hours.
This
is
when
we're
going
to
have
sort
of
a
meeting
between
the
virtual
and
the
people
in
the
room
or
for
the
people
who
are
working
virtually.
This
is
the
way
to
communicate
with
the
people
in
the
room
you
can
use
whatever
you
want.
A
A
So
going
forward
again,
we
talked
about
gather
hacknet,
that's
another
cool
capability.
We
have
this
lets
you
connect,
especially
for
people
who
are
remote
to
connect
into
a
virtual
ietf
network,
but
even
for
those
of
you
who
are
here,
if
you
want
something
special,
it
effectively
is
a
layer,
2
network,
and
we
can
offer
some
some
interesting
capabilities
beyond
what
you
would
typically
get
when
you
you
just
sign
in
via
wi-fi
to
the
ietf
network,
and
we
can
allocate
that
that
out
to
you.
A
I
mentioned
the
results
presentations,
so
these
are
very
short
presentations
where
you
just
give
a
high
level
of
what
you
tried
to
do,
what
you
actually
accomplished,
what
you
learned
that
type
of
thing-
and
it's
a
great
way
to
share
just
briefly
with
the
ietf
community,
so
they
we
have
a
little
bit
better
understanding
of
of
your
project
and
because
we
we're
probably
going
to
have
a
lot
of
these
and
we
want
to
get
through
them
all.
We.
We
keep
them
to
four
minutes
and
we
will
be
pretty
strict
on
that.
A
We'll
start
a
timer,
and
so
you
know
when
you're
putting
these
presentations
together.
Just
I'm
giving
you
a
heads
up
now
do
keep
them
short
less
than
four
minutes
is
great,
but
definitely
no
more
than
four
minutes
so
just
to
give
us
a
high
level
idea
of
what
you
accomplished
and
I'll
talk
in
a
minute
about
a
way
you
can
give
like
a
more
extended
presentation,
but
this
is
kind
of
the
quick
one
just
to
introduce
people
to
your
project
and
and
kind
of
get.
You
know
ongoing
communication
going.
A
A
A
lot
of
people
have
found
those
useful
in
the
past,
and
I
I
recommend
you
take
a
look
because
it
it
kind
of
just
gives
you
an
idea
of
sort
of
the
high
level
format
and
type
of
information.
We're
looking
for
the
other
thing.
That's
in
there
is
this
readme
file,
and
you
should
always
read
readme
files
and
what
this
one
will
tell
you
was
it'll.
A
So
all
of
you
can
upload
your
own
presentations
in
order
to
make
that
work.
You
need
to
become
a
member
of
the
ietf
hackathon
organization
within
github,
so
you
can
request
that
membership
barry
and
I
probably
barry
he's
been
quick
to
respond
to
those
can
get
you
added
to
that
group
and
if
you
think,
you're
going
to
be
presenting,
if
you
aren't
already
in
the
ietf
github
organization,
make
that
request
sooner
rather
than
later.
A
So
we
can
get
you
added
now
and
you
just
get
your
access
set
up
and
out
of
the
way,
because
if
you
wait
until
two
o'clock
tomorrow,
things
are
going
to
get
busy
and
something
might
fall
off
the
table.
We
won't
get.
You
set
up
right,
there's
also
some
rules
there
like
we
want
to
make
sure
we
know
who
everyone
is.
A
So
if
you
can,
as
part
of
your
github
account,
if
you
haven't
already
make
sure
you
put
down
the
name
that
that
you
want
that
you
go
by
so
that
we'll
know
who's
who
and
also
enable
two-factor
authentication.
Just
so
that
we
don't.
You
know
we
get
a
little
bit
more
security
as
to
who
we're
giving
right
access
to
the
the
ietf
hackathon
org.
A
One
other
thing
I
want
to
point
out
is
we're
we're
really
trying
to
make
advance
the
pace
of
the
work.
We're
doing
right
and
so
by
a
lot
of
this
is
about
code
and
many
of
you,
thankfully,
for
your
projects.
You
have
links
to
the
code
where
to
find
the
code
associated
with
your
project
on
the
ietf,
hackathon
wiki
and
that's
fantastic,
but
for
those
who
who
aren't
here,
those
who
are
going
to
go
and
read
the
drafts
and
the
rfcs,
we
want
them
to
be
able
to
find
that
code
too.
A
A
But
if
you
click
on
edit
it'll
bring
you
to
a
page
like
this
and
sorry,
it's
a
little
small,
but
you
can
download
these
these
slides
and
see
it
a
little
bit
better
and
you
can,
you
can
add
in
one
of
these
related
implementations
and
then
the
the
address
of
where
the
code
is
in
a
little
text
description.
So
it's
really
handy.
It
helps
people
find
code
related
to
the
draft
that
you're
working
on.
A
A
Okay,
just
a
couple
more
things
I
mentioned,
the
hackathon
ends
it
you
know
tomorrow
afternoon,
and
we
have
these
really
short
presentations.
Well,
if
you
want
to
give
a
more
extended
presentation,
if
you
want
time
for
like
engaging
with
the
entire
ietf
community,
not
just
those
in
this
room-
and
you
want
more
time-
we
have
this
thing
called
hack
demo
happy
hour,
and
that
will
be
monday
evening
from
5
30
to
6
30..
You
can
sign
up
it's
actually
in
this
same
room.
A
This
is
liberty,
a
it'll,
be
in
this
room,
we'll
have
tables
set
up.
You
can
have
demos
of
your
project
and
you
can
really
engage
one-on-one
with
people
for
longer
periods
of
time
right,
so
you
can
have
that
more
in-depth
conversation
that
you
weren't
able
to
have
during
the
four-minute
presentation.
A
So
I
I
recommend
you
take
advantage
of
that.
If
you
are
interested
in
doing
that,
just
let
us
know
anytime,
starting
now
until
noon
monday,
so
that
we
make
sure
we
have
enough
tables
set
up
to
accommodate
everyone
and
then
one
more
thing.
Also
in
this
same
room
all
week.
You
are
welcome
to
come
down
here
and
work
on
your
projects.
There'll
be
there'll,
be
some
tables
set
up,
they
might
be
in
a
different
arrangement
than
they
are
here,
but
you're
welcome
to
come,
there'll
be
power.
A
There'll,
be
you
know
this
setup,
so
you
can
all
gather
around
the
table
and
work
on
your
projects.
There's
a
schedule,
so
you
can
not
just
reserve
a
table
but
more
to
advertise
to
people.
Hey
we're
going
to
be
in
this
room
at
12
o'clock
from
this
time
to
this
time
so
that
they
know
they
can
come
and
meet
you
here
and
that's
a
really
handy
thing
to
be
able
to
do
too.
So
it's
not
like
when
the
hackathon
ends.
You
can't
work
on
your
projects
anymore,.