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From YouTube: IETF115-HACKATHON-20221105-1030
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HACKATHON meeting session at IETF115
2022/11/05 1030
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/115/proceedings/
A
All
right
excuse
me,
yeah.
If
I
could
get
all
your
attention,
if
you
could,
if
you
could
find
your
table,
we
want
to
get
started
pretty
soon.
A
Hey
if,
if
there's
someone
next
to
you,
who
doesn't
hear
if
you
could
give
them
a
hand
and
and
help
clue
them
in
that'd,
be
great.
A
Thank
you,
okay,
so
it
seems
the
audio
works
well
remotely.
Hopefully
all
of
you
in
the
room
can
hear
me
as
well.
A
Okay,
thank
you.
I
appreciate
that
so
welcome
to
the
hackathon.
A
It's
it's
it's
great
to
have
so
many
people
here,
even
if
there's
some
challenges
that
come
with
that,
but
but
it's
wonderful
to
see
a
full
room,
I
hope
you've
all
been
able
to
find
each
other
find
a
table
that
you
like,
if
you
haven't
yet
don't
worry
about
that
because
there'll
be
time
after
this
to
kind
of
get
sorted
out
into
your
teams,
especially
when
we
have
this
many
people,
this
many
teams,
this
many
tables
it
can
be
a
little
bit
of
a
challenge.
A
But
with
that,
let
me
let
me
get
going
first.
Just
just
one
reminder:
I
have
the
the
pleasure
of
reminding
everyone
that
at
this
meeting,
we
we
are
required
to
wear
masks
except
when
you're
speaking
up
at
the
front
like
I
am
now
or
obviously
we
have
food
and
and
that
back
there
too.
A
So
when
you're
eating
drinking,
it's
fine
to
take
off
your
mask,
but
otherwise,
please
just
be
be
mindful
of
those
around
you
and
and
help
everyone
stay
safe
and
comfortable,
and
but
by
wearing
your
mask
and
wearing
it
appropriately.
I
would
appreciate
that.
A
So
I
have
a
few
questions,
I
like
to
ask
at
the
beginning
of
each
hackathon
to
give
me
and
everyone
else,
a
sense
in
the
room,
because
I
think
the
hackathon
is
a
great
event
for
for
newcomers
to
the
ietf,
and
this
is
one
one
way
I
try
to
validate
that.
So
for
how
many
of
you,
this
is
your
first
time
at
an
ietf
hackathon,
all
right,
that's
fantastic
to
see.
A
So
you
know
I'm
I'm
glad
to
see
that
that
Trend
continue
that
this
continues
to
be
a
a
good
event
that
encourages
new
people
to
come
and
I
hope
at
the
end
of
it
that
you
feel
it
was
a
worthwhile
use
of
your
time
and
and
really
great,
and
if
you
have
thoughts
about
what
would
have
made
it
better
for
you.
Let
let
me
and
my
co-chairs
know,
because
you
know
we're
very
excited
to
have
you
here
now.
A
Maybe
this
is
somewhat
similar,
but
if
this
is
your
first
experience
with
the
ietf
at
all,
you've
never
been
to
any
ietf
event
before
how
many
of
you
are
fit
into
that
camp.
A
A
Hopefully,
the
experience
is
great
for
you
and
then
you
know,
I
had
the
I
almost
took
this
question
down,
but
I
think
we're
starting
to
get
near
what
I
I
hope
is
a
a
better
way
of
dealing
with
covid,
but
for
how
many
of
you
this
is
your
first
time
at
an
in-person
event
since
covid,
so
still
a
fair
number
of
people
there,
too,
and
and
I
think
you
know
that's
one
of
the
reasons
too
why
we
want
to
make
sure
we're
careful
with
the
mask
is
depending
on
where
you
are
in
the
world:
there's
different
kind
of
rules
and
situations
there.
A
So
it's
just
better
for
everyone.
If
we
follow
that,
so
thank
you
so
I
think
we're
all
pretty
much
aware
with
of
this,
but
I
still
like
to
go
over
it.
A
The
reason
why
we're
here
it's
it's
really
to
to
improve
our
work
around
iatf
standards
and
to
accelerate
that
so
to
kind
of
be
more
collaborative,
more
bring
more
development
into
working
on
the
standards
that
we've
been
defining
within
ietf
and
to
test
things
out
and
to
see
if
they
work
or
not,
whether
they've
already
been
defined
or
in
existing
rfcs
or
whether
it's
you
know,
new
ideas
that
we're
thinking
about
and
we
have
Internet
drafts
around.
A
And
it's
also
a
great
way,
I
think
to
bring
a
different
set
of
skills
and
to
invite
developers
to
come
in
and
and
work
hand
in
hand
with
a
lot
of
the
people
who
have
traditionally
been
defining
the
standards.
So-
and
we
want
this
to
be
a
good
way
to
to
welcome
those
people
in
and
and
really
help
you
get
active
and
contributing
to
the
ietf
right
away.
In
a
way,
that's
very
valuable
to
the
ITF.
A
Well,
if
you
haven't
familiarized
yourself
with
this,
it's
kind
of
hard
to
read
and
very
hard
to
read
on
this
version,
but
you
can
download
the
slides
and
you
can
find
the
the
note
well
on
the
ietf
website
too,
and
just
make
sure
you're
aware
of
the
rules
under
which
you're
you're
participating
here
now
in
terms
of
the
rules
under
which
you're
participating
the
the
code
that
you're
working
on
likely
has
a
license
associated
with
it,
and
so
you
should
be
familiar
with
that
too,
because
the
code
you're
working
on
is
not
necessarily
iatf
property.
A
It's
probably
there's
probably
a
license
associated
with
it
and
that
governs
the
rules
around
the
code
you're
using
and
how
you
you
use
it
distribute
it
contribute
to
it.
So
so
make
sure
you
look
at
that.
A
A
So
if
there's
new
projects,
new
information
that
the
agenda
changes
in
any
way,
we'll
update
it
on
the
the
hackathon
wiki
first
and
then
information
kind
of
propagates
from
there,
so
so
take
a
look
at
those
projects.
Hopefully
one
or
more
of
them
resonates
with
you.
A
If
you
haven't
found
a
project
yet
and
you
need
some
help,
you
know
finding
a
spot
or
a
team
to
work
with
you're
welcome
to
come
up
here
and
and
we'll
help
you
out
the
table
that
I'm
at
right
here
in
the
front
and
center
and
help
get
you
situated.
A
We
also
have
a
web
page
that
that
is
called
Lost
and
Found,
and
that's
that's
really
to
serve
two
purposes.
One
is
if
you're
a
participant
looking
for
a
project,
it's
a
way
that
you
can
kind
of
share.
Oh
hey,
I'm!
Looking
for
a
team
here
are
some
things
I'm
interested
in
or
some
some
of
the
skills
I
can
bring
to
the
the
team.
A
Likewise,
if
you're,
if
you're
leading
a
project
and
you're
looking
for
a
particular
skill
set
or
people,
you
can
advertise
there
that
that's
what
you
need,
and
so
that's
another
way
to
try
to
match
up
people
with
with
teams.
So
you
can
take
a
look
at
that
too.
There's
a
link
to
that
on
the
wiki
foreign.
A
For
that
the
rest
of
the
day
we
won't
be
using
miteko
here
in
the
room,
we'll
be
using
gather
and
you
might
want
to
use
gather
to
to
meet
up
with
people
who
are
participating
remotely.
We
do
have
a
number
of
people
doing
that
lunch
will
be
provided
kind
of
in
that
same
area.
So
you
don't
you
don't
need
to
to
leave
and
go
out
for
lunch.
A
Of
course
you
still
can
if
you
want,
but
we
try
to
make
it
easy
for
you
to
stay
here
and
continue
to
to
work
on
your
project,
so
lunch
will
be
brought
in
we'll
have
some
snacks
in
the
afternoon
we'll
even
have
dinner,
and
it's
a
pretty
nice
dinner
from
what
I
hear.
So,
hopefully
you
can
stay
for
that,
it'd
be
great.
If
you
can
stay
with
us
the
whole
evening,
the
doors
will
close
at
nine
o'clock
and
so
at
nine
o'clock.
A
We
really
do
ask
that
that
you
you
leave
and
that
allows
the
hotel
staff
to
come
in
clean
things
up
and
shut
everything
down
and
and
lets
them
get
it
home.
You
know
at
a
reasonable
time
as
well,
so
if
you
want
to
continue
working
on
your
projects
after
nine
o'clock,
that's
perfectly
fine.
A
Just
just
don't
do
it
in
this
room
right,
the
Network's
up
everywhere,
except
when
the
power
goes
out,
and
and
so
you
should
be
able
to
work
on
it
wherever
you
want
and
that's
fine,
so
there's
no
rules
around
when
you
can
and
can't
work
on
your
project.
It's
just
the
room
closes
at
9,
00
pm
it'll
then
open
up
again
tomorrow
morning,
as
it
did
today,
certainly
by
by
9
30
in
the
morning.
A
Everything
will
be
open
and
there'll
be
some
snacks
back
there
again
and
then
lunch
will
be
provided
again
and
then
a
really
important
thing,
especially
for
those
of
you
who
are
new
and
you
may
not
have
seen
this
agenda
before.
Is
we
have
these
sharing
of
results
of
your
project,
and
this
is
voluntary.
A
You
don't
have
to
do
it,
but
it's
a
really
good
way
to
give
a
short
summary
of
what
you
did,
what
your
team
did,
what
you
accomplished
and
what
you
learned
and
and
what
you're
going
to
bring
back
into
say
an
ietf
working
group
based
on
how
your
project
went.
A
We
like
to
hear
about
those
types
of
things,
so
this
is
an
opportunity
for
you
to
share
with
everyone,
just
just
a
very
brief
presentation
and
so
those
happen
starting
at
two
o'clock
and
run
till
about
four
o'clock
or,
however
long
it
takes
us
to
get
through
all
of
them.
So
if
you
plan
on
doing
that
which
I
suggest
you
do,
that
means
you
need
to
plan
on
wrapping
up
your
project
and
start
working
on
your
few
slides.
A
Your
summary
give
yourself
enough
time
to
do
that,
so
that
you
you
have
that
ready
and
you
can
upload
it
to
to
GitHub
before
we
we
do.
The
presentations
and
I
have
some
slides
that
show
you
more
details
about
that,
and
then
the
hackathon
ends
at
four
o'clock
and
then
you
know
we
ask
that
everyone
collect
your
stuff
and
make
sure
you're
out
of
here
by
five
so
that
the
the
room
can
be
set
again
for
the
next,
the
rest
of
the
ietf
week.
A
Any
questions
on
the
agenda
yeah.
There
is
a
mic
up
here.
If
you
don't
mind
coming
up
to
it
that
way,
remote
participants
can
hear
it
too.
A
Oh,
yes,
is
there
a
a
hackers,
lounge
or
the
code
Lounge
it'll
actually
be
here
and
I
have
a
slide
about
that
too,
but
yeah
yeah.
There
will
be
that
so
you
do
have
the
ability
after
the
hackathon.
That's
a
really
good
point.
You
can
continue
to
work
on
your
projects
really
all
week
and
I.
Think
that
that's
a
great
idea.
We
just
kind
of
have
this
Focus
thing
the
weekend
before,
but
you
know,
there's
no
reason
you
need
to
stop
coding
thing.
So
I
encourage
you
to
do
that.
A
All
week,
I
mentioned
gather
before
we
started
using
gather
when
we
had
the
online
only
hackathon
yeah
online,
only
hackathon
in
the
online,
only
iitf
meetings,
and
we
continue
to
have
it
as
a
great
tool,
especially
if
you
have
some
people
who
are
remote,
who
are
joining
your
project.
A
So
if
you
follow
those
arrows
to
the
right,
you'll
enter
into
this
space,
which
is
separate
just
for
the
hackathon
and
you'll,
see,
there's
some
tables
there,
not
as
many
as
there
are
in
here,
but
but
those
of
you
who
want
can
kind
of
pick
a
table.
A
Let
your
team
know
that
that
you're
meeting
at
that
table
and
you
you
can
use
that
for
the
the
duration
of
the
the
hackathon.
In
the
event
we
run
out
of
tables
I'm,
pretty
sure
we
can
create
some
more
within
the
the
virtual
space
that
that
hasn't
been
an
issue
in
the
past.
So
just
kind
of
pick
your
table
and
usually
by
sitting
your
virtual
self
at
the
table
is,
is
a
really
good
way
to
to
kind
of
pick
it
for
your
team.
A
So
hacknet,
this
is
a
an
optional
thing.
That's
available.
If
some
of
you
who
are
working
on
you
know,
internet
protocols,
you
may
need
special
kind
of
network
setups
and
with
hacknet
we
have
the
ability
to
accommodate
some
of
those.
So
if
you
have
special
networking
needs
Beyond
using
the
the
ietf
a
wireless
network.
If
you
need
wired
connections,
there's
some
tables
here
that
that
have
the
ability
for
you
to
plug
in
and
just
have
a
wired
connection
into
the
iatf
network.
A
But
if
you
need
a
separate
network
with
some
special
things
on
it,
where
maybe
some
prefix
delegation-
or
you
know
whatever
you
need
for
your
your
protocol,
whatever
you're
working
on
you
can,
let
us
know
you
can
request
it
and
we'll
try
to
accommodate
that.
The
knock
works
with
us
to
try
to
accommodate
what
you
need.
A
A
So
these
are
very
short
presentations
just
to
give
people
a
you
know
the
highlights
of
of
what
your
project
was
about
and
what
you
accomplished
and
and
kind
of
there
think
of
them
as
conversation
starters,
so
that
people
can
come
up
and
and
have
a
more
in-depth
conversation
at
you
at
one
of
the
other
kind
of
opportunities
that
we
provide
for
that
and
I'll
talk
about
those
in
just
a
second
as
well.
A
So
if
you
are
planning
on
sharing
your
results,
giving
one
of
these
presentations
the
way
that
we
do
it
is
we
use,
we
have
an
ietf
hackathon,
GitHub
organization
and
within
that
organization
we
have
a
repo
that
we
created
for
this
particular
hackathon
and
it's
pretty
simply
innate
label.
A
Although
you
may
not
be
able
to
read
it
very
well:
iatf
115
project
presentations,
and
so
what
you'll
do
is
you'll
upload
your
your
presentation
into
that
repo
in
order
to
do
that
and
there's
a
link
to
that
the
project
presentations
there.
A
In
order
to
upload,
though
you
need
to
actually
become
a
a
member
of
the
iitf
hackathon
organization,
and
the
way
you
do,
that
is
by
sending
a
request
to
the
hackathon
chairs,
and
we
will
add
you
to
that
and
you
can
find
our
email
address,
there's
an
alias
there
on
the
the
on
the
Wiki
page
on
the
hackathon
Wiki
page.
A
So
when
you
request
that
we'll
add
you
and
then
you'll
be
able
to
upload
your
presentation
there,
because
when
we
do
the
project
presentations
at
two
o'clock
tomorrow,
what
we
basically
do
is
we
run
through
all
the
presentations
that
have
been
uploaded.
So
it's
important
that
you
have
your
your
presentation
uploaded
when
we
start
that
and
the
readme
gives
you
some
instructions
about
how
to
get
added
to
the
the
group
how
to
contact
us
and
how
it
all
works.
A
There's
also
a
couple
more
things
in
there
that
I
think
I.
Didn't
I
forgot
to
point
out
that
when
you
go
to
that
repo
you'll
see
some
templates
and
you're
welcome
to
use
those
for
your
project
presentations.
There's
a
PowerPoint
template,
there's
also
an
HTML
template.
You
can
use
either
one
of
those
and
there's
some
directions
and
links
there
so
that
you
can
download
those
and
use
those
and
that
just
helps
make
it
a
little
actually
I
yeah
I
think
we
I
think
they
should
be
uploaded.
A
I
think
they
should
be
I'll
need
to
check
I
think
they
should
be
updated
for
IHF
115,
as
opposed
to
itf-114
I'll
I'll
check
that,
after
after
we
get
through
this.
A
Then
related
implementations.
This
is
a
relatively
new
feature
in
the
data
tracker
and
the
idea
behind
it
is
we
mentioned
that
a
lot
of
the
stuff
we're
coding
up
here
right,
it's
closely
related
to
iatf,
rfcs
and
drafts,
but
it's
not
always
easy
for
people
to
find
code
that
is
related
to
ietf,
rfcs
and
drafts.
So
this
related
implementations
is
a
way
that
you
can
create
that
linkage.
A
So
then,
on
the
data
tracker,
when
people
go
to
your
IHF
draft
that
you're
working
on
you
have
an
implementation,
that's
associated
with
it,
either
you're
implementing
the
draft
or
some
tools
that
help
with
implementing
or
testing
or
sniffing
traffic
on
the
network
related
to
that
draft.
So
you
can
create
that
linkage
here
and
so,
when
you
go
to
the
data
tracker
you'll
see
something
called
additional
resources
and
if
you
click
on
that,
you
can
then
enter
information
about
related
implementations.
A
There's
a
related
implementations
tag
egg
and
you
can
put
that
and
then
include
the
like
your
the
link
to
your
GitHub
repo
or
wherever
the
code
happens
to
be.
If
it's
an
individual
draft
you'll
have
the
ability
to
do
this
yourself.
If
it's
a
working
group
draft
I
believe
you
still
need
to
work
with
your
working
group
chair
to
make
that
happen,
but
the
working
group
chairs
are
familiar
with
this
and
they
should
be
able
to
help
you
out.
A
So
I
really
encourage
you
to
do
this,
because
we
work
on
a
lot
of
code
in
the
hackathon
and
then
oftentimes.
You
know
it
kind
of
gets
forgotten
or
people
don't
realize
that
there's
this
code
associated
with
the
draft
or
with
the
RFC,
and
this
is
a
way
that
you
can
help
others
who
aren't
you
know
here
in
the
hackathon,
aren't
working
with
the
code
on
you
aren't
working
on
the
code
with
you
to
help
them
find
it
and,
and
then
maybe
they'll
use
it.
Maybe
they'll
contribute
to
it
but
anyways.
A
It
gets
it
out
there
and
helps
people
discover
it.
So
I
really
appreciate
it.
If
you
could,
if
you
could
do
that,
many
of
you
have
indicated
on
the
wiki,
the
hackathon
wiki
the
drafts
that
you're
you're
working
on
or
that
your
code
is
associated
with
and
if
you
could
go
and
also
create
that
linkage
that'd
be
great.
If
you
have
any
problems,
doing
it
I'm
happy
to
help,
you
can
come
see
me
up
here
and
and
we'll
help
get
that
sorted
out
any
questions
about
that.
B
A
So
I
mentioned
that
there's
other
opportunities
to
have
more
extended
conversations
around
your
project
and
one
great
one
is
hack
demo
happy
hour.
So
on
Monday.
When
is
it
it's
from
six
to
seven
I
believe
it's
yeah,
it's
in
this
same
room
and
we'll
have
some
space
set
up
here
with
tables,
and
you
have
the
whole
hour
then,
to
kind
of
demo
your
project
to
whoever's
interested
and
that
could
include
people
who
are
here
at
the
hackathon
that
see
your
presentation.
A
It
could
be
people
that
are
here
for
the
iatf
meeting
and
weren't
here
at
the
hackathon
at
all,
and
now
that
they're
interested
in
what
you
did.
So
this
gives
you
the
opportunity
to
have
those
more
in-depth
conversations
that
that
can't
happen
on
a
Sunday
when
we
do
the
results
presentation,
so
I
encourage
you
to
do
that.
A
If
you,
if
you're
interested
in
doing
it,
you
need
to
register
because
that's
how
we
know
how
many
tables
we
have
to
get
set
up
and
and
all
that
and
that
make
sure
we
have
enough
space
and
so
make
sure
you
do
that
by
noon
on
Monday.
And
if
so,
then,
then
we'll
make
sure
we
have
space
to
accommodate
you,
the
code
Lounge,
as
was
asked
about
that'll,
be
here
and
that'll
continue
all
week.
A
We
may
not
have
this
whole
room,
but
we'll
at
least
have
a
good
amount
of
space
where
you
can
come
and
and
you're
welcome
to
to
work
on
your
code
and
if
it's
helpful,
you
can
schedule
time
and
there's
a
page
you'll
find
where
you
can
put
on
there,
and
some
people
have
already
done
it.
The
l4s
team
has
done
that
and
they
can
indicate
when
they
plan
to
be
here
and
that's
just
to
help
others
who
might
be
interested
in
working
on
your
project
know
when
you're
going
to
be
here.
A
So
it's
you
don't
have
to
register,
but
I
think
it
can
be
a
handy
thing
and
there's
no
problem
with
multiple
teams
registering
at
the
same
time.
That's
actually
a
good
thing,
because
it
we
get
a
bit
of
critical
mass
here
working
on
running
code.
So
that's
great
to
see
too.
A
Then
I
also
want
to
make
sure
that
I
thank
our
sponsors.
We
actually
have
two
sponsors
this
time.
We
have
meta
who's,
a
running
code
sponsor
at
Silver
level,
and
then
we
have
icann
as
a
bronze
level
sponsor
and
that's
fantastic,
because
I
mentioned
we
should
have
a
nicer
dinner.
Those
things
cost
money,
and
so
it's
really
nice
to
get
the
sponsorship
yeah
hi
Barry.
You
got
a
question.
C
So
Charles
covered
this
a
little
earlier
at
the
beginning,
but
I
just
want
to
remind
everybody
that
we
are
committed
to
wearing
masks
here
at
all
times
when
you're
not
actively
eating
and
drinking
Jay
is
wandering
around
with
a
taser
zapping
people
I'm,
sorry
with
masks
handing
them
to
people,
and
there
are
plenty
of
masks
up
at
the
registration
desk.
So
please,
if
you
are
in
the
middle
of
working,
please
keep
your
masks
on
thanks.
A
Yeah-
and
we
have
really
nice
assortment
of
colors
too
so
so
that's
kind
of
cool.
A
And
actually
that
was
that's
the
end
of
the
the
presentation.
If
I
appreciate
your
your
attention,
I
know
you
all
are
anxious
to
work
on
your
project,
but
I
also
want
to
give
people
the
the
opportunity
to
ask
questions.
If
there
are
any
questions.
A
A
I
thought
oh
I,
guess
through
through
hacknet
you
can
they
can
get
onto
the
iatf
network
remotely
through
hacknet.
Now
the
only
problem
with
that
is,
if
they
don't
have
a
device
already
like
a
micro
tick,
they
they
might
have
some
problems,
but
that's
the
way
for
them
to
do
it.
A
Any
other
questions:
okay.
Well,
thanks
again
for
your
attention:
Happy
Happy,
hacking.