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From YouTube: IETF115-EMODIR-20221106-1230
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EMODIR meeting session at IETF115
2022/11/06 1230
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/115/proceedings/
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Okay
can
I
think
this
one
is
still
coming
through
audio
right,
excellent,
okay
and
I
think
welcome
to
the
first
session
of
this
in
this
room.
So,
therefore,
you
have
all
of
the
tiny
little
getting
everything
set
up
properly,
so
we'll
be
starting
in
their
moments.
Yeah
I
feel
like
there's
something
I'm.
A
Anybody
got
an
idea:
what
that's
something
I'm,
forgetting
is
no,
okay,
all
right.
So
with
that
we'll
go
ahead
and
get
started.
This
is
the
new
participants
overview.
The
and
a
version
of
these
slides
is
online.
These
particular
slides
are
going
to
be
available
in
the
proceedings
of
this
meeting.
So
if
you
go
to
data
tracker,
you'll
be
able
to
see
them
there
and
with
that
I
am
Karen.
O'donoghue
I've
been
in
around
the
edges
of
the
ietf.
A
For
many
years
now,
I've
been
a
working
group
chair,
the
ntp
working
group
also
Jose
and
sakum
and
I've
done
the
Education
team,
and
then
it
became
the
education
and
mentoring
and
Outreach
directorate,
and
so
all
of
the
activities
associated
with
the
new
participants
fall
under
the
purview
of
the
of
the
emoder
activities.
When
the
other
two
speakers
get
up
I'll,
let
you
enter
I'll
get.
A
Let
them
introduce
themselves
a
little
bit
more
thoroughly,
but
you
will
also
be
hearing
from
Rich
Sauls,
who
is
also
a
working
group
chair
of
a
number
of
working
groups
and
he's
the
current
nom-com
chair.
When
we
talk
about
leadership,
you'll
get
an
idea
of
his
current
job
is
to
help
select
the
next
leadership
panel
for
the
ietf
and
then
also
you're,
going
to
hear
from
Michelle
cotton
Michelle.
Cotton
works
for
the
Secretariat
staff,
Association
Management,
Systems
Solutions,
and
she
is
helping
to
coordinate
all
of
the
new
participant
activities.
A
So
you'll
hear
from
her
towards
the
end
about
what
some
of
the
specific
new
participant
targeted
activities
are.
So
with
that
this
presentation
has
four
parts.
The
first
part
is
an
overview
of
the
ietf.
The
second
is
an
introduction
to
the
ietf
meeting
week,
so
it's
in
general
what
you
would
find
in
a
meeting
week.
The
third
is
an
overview
of
some
of
the
resources
that
are
important,
including
the
people
and
the
tools,
some
of
the
information
that
you
need
and
then
finally,
the
new
participant
activities.
A
This
is
not
a
history
of
the
ietf.
It's
not
everything
that
you
would
ever
need
to
know
about
the
ietf.
It's
just
enough
for
you
to
get
started.
So
the
as
we
say
here.
The
scope
of
this
presentation
is
general
information
to
get
you
started
in
the
ietf,
and
hopefully
the
information
will
be
immediately
useful
to
you.
If,
at
the
end
of
this,
you
find
that
there's
specific
things
that
you
would
really
have
liked
to
have
known.
A
A
A
This
is
all
of
our
processes
and
our
policies,
it's
important
for
an
Open
Standards
process,
so
it
has
a
lot
of
IPR
types
of
implications
and
then
also,
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
it
talks
about
some
of
our
how
the
processes
of
how
we
work
and,
in
particular
I,
would
call
your
note.
The
harassment
procedures
and
the
code
of
conduct
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
those
next
slide.
Item
number
two:
we
used
to
do
blue
sheets
and
now
what
we
do
is
we
we
are.
A
We
do
need
to
take
attendance
and,
if
you
think
about
especially
you
know,
laws
around
collaboration
and
Open
Standards
process,
you
need
to
know
who's
basically
in
the
room.
So
we
don't
pass
around
blue
sheets
anymore
and
you
don't
sign
them,
but
what
you
do
need
to
do
is
sign
into
every
meeting
if
you're
online
using
meet
Echo
you're
already
signed
in.
A
But
if
you're
not
you're,
going
to
see
this
QR
code
in
every
room,
so
there
is
a
lightweight
meet
Echo
app,
so
you
need
to
click
on
this
QR
code
and
that
registers
you
in
this
meeting
so
I'm
not
going
to
count
all
the
heads
here.
But
at
the
end
of
this
we
should
see
at
least
this
many
people
have
attended
this
meeting.
So
Point
your
phones
now
and
take
the
QR
code
and
you'll
see
this
in
every
meeting
throughout
the
rest
of
the
week
and
it's
pretty
lightweight.
A
You
can
also
do
it
online
if
you're
going
to
if
you're
already,
if
you're,
following
the
full
version
of
meat
echo
on
your
laptop
it'll,
also
register
you.
But
it's
really
important
to
do
that.
The
second
thing
for
that
is
and
I
think
we
talk
about
it
a
little
bit
later
in
this
is
it
the
lightweight.
App
also
allows
you
to
join
the
queue,
and
one
of
the
things
that
we
do
is
we
queue
for
questions
and
we
give
the
remote
participants
an
equal
opportunity
to
participate.
A
So
you
will
join
the
queue
by
using
your
app
and
then
you
can
go
to
the
microphone
so
with
that
everybody
has
registered
for
this
meeting
at
this
point.
So
the
second
question,
oh
look,
is
how
to
ask
questions
during
a
meeting,
and
this
is
the
main
echo
or
made
Echo
light
made.
Echolite
is
the
one
on
your
phone
regular
meat
Echo
is
the
one
on
your
laptop
or,
if
you're,
online,
obviously
from
home,
you'll,
be
watching
it
online
and
you'll.
Do
it
there.
A
You
need
to
put
yourself
into
the
queue
the
tool
can
automatically
detect
whether
you
are
in
person
or
remote,
and
so,
if
there's
a
long
list
of
people,
you
can
put
yourself
in
the
queue
and
then
you
can
leisurely,
walk
up
to
the
microphone
and
get
in
the
queue.
And
then
another
thing
to
remember
is:
please
slowly
state
your
name.
Every
time
you
join
the
queue
I
think
Michelle
wants
me
to
move
faster.
What
do
you
think
the
next
thing
is,
you
will
know
we
do.
A
We
did
a
community
consultation
on
the
coveted
rules
and
the
the
rules
that
we
have
in
place
are
the
rules
that
the
general
Community
agreed
to.
So
we
are
requiring
everybody
except
the
people
that
are
speaking
at
the
front
of
the
room,
to
wear
a
mask.
So
please
do
wear
your
mask
if
you
have
any
concerns
about
being
ill,
there
are
free
tests
available
through
the
Secretariat
at
their
registration
desk,
go
by
and
get
one.
A
A
The
final
thing
that
I'm
going
to
go
backwards,
just
one
second,
the
there
are
some
pins
that
also
indicate
if
you
are
comfortable
with
you
know,
handshakes
or
hugs,
or
if
you
would
rather
people
to
maintain
their
distance.
So
if
you
see
the
the
stack
of
like,
oh,
let's
see,
Michelle
is
wearing
a
green
square.
That
means
that
she
is
okay
for
people
to
come
up
and
give
her
a
big
hug,
because
they
haven't
seen
her
in
a
couple
years.
A
So
the
first
thing
is
the
ITF
Mission,
the
ITF
Mission,
just
to
make
the
internet
better
by
producing
high
quality,
relevant
technical
standards
that
influence
the
way,
people,
design
and
use
and
manage
the
internet,
and
so
the
whole
point
of
all
of
this
is
making
standards
that
support
the
internet.
Next
slide.
A
There
we
go.
There
are
some
very
basic
principles
of
the
ietf.
The
first
one
is
that
anybody
can
participate.
You
don't
need
to
attend
in
person.
You
don't
need
to
pay
a
fee.
Everyone
can
participate.
All
of
the
work
that's
produced
by
the
ietf
is
available
for
free
and
you
can
find
it
in
the
internet
drafts
repository
and
in
the
RSC
Repository.
A
The
contributions
are
judged
on
technical
merits.
That's
a
pretty
high
bar
to
strive
for,
but
that's
that's
the
objective
and
the
success
is
by
voluntary
deployment.
So
we
have
no
power
to
require
standards.
I
mean
governments
and
various
profiles
may
do
that,
but
we
actually
don't
require
standards
for
deployment
and
so
a
standard
that
is
ultimately
successful
is
one
that
has
found
deployment
in
the
real
world
next
slide.
A
So,
as
I
mentioned,
the
ietf
is
a
standards,
development
organization.
It's
a
self-selected
individual
participants.
So
you
know
you
don't
have
a
formal
membership
by
company.
It's
driven
by
market-based
adoptions
focused
on
internet
Technologies.
It's
also
Bottoms
Up.
So
there's
no
formal
voting.
We'll
talk
a
little
bit
later
about
what
it
means
to
achieve
ietf
consensus,
but
there's
no
formal
voting
and
there's
no
formal
government
role.
Governments
are
allowed
to
participate
just
like
anybody
else,
but
they
are
participants
and
don't
have
any
special
standing.
Also,
this
week
is
a
meeting.
A
It's
a
working
meeting,
and
so
it's
not
like
a
conference
that
you
might
go
to
so
you're,
not
going
to
see
booths
or
sales
promotions
or
any
other
sales
related
activities,
because
this
is
a
working
meeting
all
right.
So
the
big
picture,
the
ITF
has
a
number
of
bodies
associated
with
it
that
sort
of
fall
under
the
umbrella.
The
biggest
is
the
set
of
working
groups
and
so
on
the
right
of
this
slide.
A
You
see
the
internet,
engineering,
Steering
group
and
that's
made
up
of
the
leaders
of
all
of
the
various
areas
and
all
of
the
working
groups
are
lumped
into
areas
and
so
that
piece
right
there
is
the
engineering
part
of
the
ietf.
The
pink
part
is
the
internet,
research,
Steering
group
and
the
irtf.
A
So
the
irtf
are
all
of
the
research
groups
that
do
work.
That
is
not
quite
ready
for
engineering,
but
might
evolve
to
that
point.
Someday,
there's
also
a
measurements
research
group,
there's
a
privacy,
research
group,
there's
a
human
rights
protocol
considerations,
research
group,
so
the
work-
that's
not
really
chartered
to
work
on
specific
standards
might
fall
into
the
research
group.
A
So
there
is
an
LLC
board,
also
selected
through
the
nomcom
process
and
that
board
works
on
the
you
know,
signing
all
the
contracts
that
support
the
structure.
You
know
negotiating
Hotel
contracts,
negotiating
the
contracts
with
all
of
the
entities
that
support
the
ietf.
So
if
it's
legal
or
contractual
it's
in
the
purview
of
the
LLC
okay,
so
next
is
I
had
mentioned
briefly,
that
there
was
a
bunch
of
working
groups
that
were
organized
into
areas.
So
here
are
the
areas
currently
in
the
iatf.
A
A
A
I
think
there's
a
working
group
meeting
this
week
as
an
as
an
example
of
this,
the
elegy
working
group,
which
is
actually
about
the
eligibility
requirements
to
participate
in
the
nom-com
process
that
I
have
mentioned
before
that
selects
the
leadership.
So
we
have
an
RFC
that
documents
the
how
we
select
our
leadership
and
how
you
can
participate
in
that
process.
A
A
So
this
slide
talks
a
little
bit
about
the
leadership
among
the
various
groups
and,
if
you
go
later
on
we're
going
to
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
individual
people,
but
there's
basically
for
the
ietf
itself,
there's
the
general
chair
of
the
ietf.
If
you
attend
the
plenary
on
Wednesday
evening,
you'll
note
that
Lars
Eggert
is
a
gentleman
who
will
be
chairing
that.
So
that's
the
and
he's
also
the
general
area
director
in
the
ietf.
A
So
Lars
is
the
ietf
general
chair
each
of
those
areas
that
I
just
talked
about
those
seven
areas.
They
have
two
maybe
three
area
directors
and,
and
then
each
working
group
within
an
area
has
two,
maybe
three
working
group
chairs
and
those
links.
There
show
you
who
that
body
who
those
settings
of
people
are
like
so
who's,
the
who's.
The
members
of
the
isg
and
who
are
the
various
working
group
chairs,
are
in
the
IAB.
A
You
have
a
chair
of
the
IAB,
that's
currently
Mary
Coleman
and
she
will
also
be
on
the
plenary
talking
about
IAB
activities.
She'll
also
be
co-chairing.
There's
an
IAB
open
meeting
tomorrow
evening,
I
believe
from
3
30
to
5,
30
or
4
30
to
5
30.
I
know
it
ends
at
5
30.
on
Tuesday,
so
she'll
be
one
of
the
co-chairs
of
that
and
she
is
the
chair
current
chair
of
the
IAB
and
then
the
then
the
members
of
the
ieb
are
selected
again
through
the
nam-com
process.
A
Has
a
chair
that
chair
is
selected
through
the
IAB
and
the
irtf
chair
is
currently
a
gentleman
named
Colin
Perkins.
There
is
an
irtf
open
meeting
this
week.
It
usually
has
a
couple
of
invited
speakers,
along
with
other
topics,
and
it
has
a
set
of
irsg.
It
has
an
irst,
a
Steering
group
for
the
irtf
and
those
are
generally
made
up
of
chairs
of
the
various
research
groups
and
invited
participants.
It's
a
little
bit
less
formal
than
the
iesg.
A
The
Mantra
I
guess
of
the
ietf
is
that
we
reject
King's
presidents
and
votings.
We
believe
in
rough
consensus
and
running
code,
and
this
has
been
around
for
at
least
30
years,
the
key
Point
here
being
that
rough
consensus
is
when
you
get
all
of
the
issues
have
been
discussed
but
they're
not
necessarily
all
been
accommodated.
So
at
some
point
you
need
to
move
forward,
and
so
you,
you
hear
everybody's
opinion
that
you
analyze
what
they've
brought
forward,
but
you
at
some
point
make
a
decision
and
you
move
forward.
A
A
They
think
well,
humming
is
kind
of
an
odd
process,
but
if
you
just
take
a
step
back
and
you
think
in
terms
of
humming
is
a
way
to
measure
the
rough
idea
of
the
number
of
people
in
a
room
that
support
something
and
how
passionately
they
support
it.
So
if
you
say
you
know
how
many
people
approve
the
adoption
of
this
draft
and
you
get
sort
of
a
quiet
hum,
then
you
know
well,
you
know.
Maybe
maybe
people
were
okay
with
it,
but
they're.
Not
that
strong,
a
supporter
of
it.
A
So
humming
gives
you
a
way
to
measure
the
differences
without
actually
voting,
and
that
way
people
that
have
a
stronger
vested
interest.
People
that
you
know
have
experimented
people
that
have
actually
read
the
draft
can
have
a
stronger
opinion
expressed,
but
it's
really
just
a
tool
for
measuring
consensus.
A
A
One
of
the
chief
obligations
of
a
working
group
co-chair
is
to
determine
the
consensus
in
the
working
group,
and
so
we
do
that
by
looking
at
you
know
the
the
response
in
the
room.
We
also
look
at
the
traffic
on
the
mailing
list
and
any
you
know,
final
decisions
on
on
major
consensus
calls
are
taken
back
to
the
mailing
list
so
that
anybody
that
feels
they
have
an
opinion
on
the
subject
can
express
it
in
that
consensus
process.
A
A
So
most
people
that
come
to
the
ietf
do
so
because
they
want
to
join
a
working
group
and
contribute
to
existing
work
and
there's
sort
of
a
real
basic
outline
here
of
how
you
would
contribute
to
that
work.
A
little
bit
later
in
this
presentation
we're
going
to
talk
about
a
tool
called
the
data
tracker,
so
datatracker.ietf.org,
that's
really
the
the
the
core
of
all
of
the
ietf
work.
You
can
find
all
of
the
documents
there.
A
You
can
find
links
to
all
of
the
mailing
lists
there
and
you
can
find
information
about
every
working
group
there.
So
if
you
look
at
this
picture
on
the
right
here,
you
see
like
the
about
the
documents,
the
meeting
the
history
of
the
photos.
So
every
working
group
has
a
data
tracker
page
and
all
of
the
information
about
that
working
group
is
on
that
data.
Tracker
page.
So
you
can
see
the
charter
and
the
milestones
and
everything
else
that
you
need
to
do.
A
So
those
are
the
three
major
categories
that
you're
going
to
see,
and
so
that
way
you
can
figure
out,
and
then
you
know
if
the
if
the
working
group
chair
has
is
organized
and
has
properly
done
all
of
their
work
in
advance
of
their
meeting.
When
you
go
to
the
agenda
page
on
data
tracker
it'll
show
you
which
documents
have
been
linked
for
discussion
in
that
meeting.
A
So
this
is
a
lot.
The
other
thing
a
lot
of
times.
New
participants
want
to
do
in
the
ietf
is
to
talk
about
how
new
work
starts
up
and
you
you
come
with
some
ideas
and
you
want
to
start
some
work,
so
this
is
sort
of
the
high
level
one
and
the
next
slide
will
provide
you
a
couple
links
that
will
be
useful.
So
basically
the
first
step
is
you
have
the
idea
and
community
building
part
the
iitf
is
contribution
driven.
A
The
other
thing
that's
really
important
on
this
slide
is
you
need
people
that
are
willing
to
do
the
work
it
and
a
lot
of
times.
It's
not
the
people
that
initially
bring
the
work.
It's
a
whole
set
of
people
that
contribute
to
completing
the
work.
You
know
once
they've
identified
and
built
that
community.
A
So
if
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
the
this
gives
you
a
little
bit
more
details
on
some
of
the
things
that
you
might
want
to
do.
The
key
is
obviously
you
need
to
write
that
initial
internet
draft,
and
once
you
have
that
initial
internet
draft
you
know,
there's
you
might
have
some
informal
side
meetings
and
you'll
see
in
the
on
the
agenda
at
the
top.
A
It
talks
about
the
side
meeting
Wiki
so
that
side,
meeting
Wiki
gives
you
the
opportunity
to
find
out
side,
meetings
or
schedule
your
own
site
meeting,
and
you
can
just
go.
Anybody
can
reserve
a
chunk
of
the
room.
You
can
set
up
a
side
meeting
and
invite
people
to
participate
in
it
then,
once
you've
got
it
a
little
bit
more
mature,
you
talk
to
the
area
directors
and
they
may
send
it
through
a
dispatch
process
or
they
may
send
it
to
a
boss
and
you'll.
A
See
Rich
will
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
boss,
later
birds
of
a
feather
sessions,
and
then
you
would
hold
the
buff
and
then
you
might
get
a
working
group
Charter
or
you
might
get
sent
to
another
working
group
or
or
it
and
they
might
decide
for
whatever
reason.
The
work
is
not
far
enough
along
in
development
or
there's
not
enough
interest
or
it's
outside
the
scope
of
the
ietf.
Then
it
might
move
elsewhere.
A
A
A
Obviously
it's
all
of
the
infrastructure
that
supports
the
ietf
all
year
long
and
so
the
sources
of
that
are
the
registration
fees
for
this
meeting
donations
and
there's
ways
to
donate,
and
there
is
a
woman
here,
who's
the
just
lost
her
title,
but
she
basically
does
the
fundraising
for
the
ietf
corporate
donation,
corporate
contributions
and
sponsorships
and
you'll
see
on
the
signs
who
the
sponsors
of
these
meetings
are
they're
invaluable
to
helping
carry
out
the
work
of
the
ietf
I.
Think
that's
the
end
of
my
second
number.
A
Oh
one
last
slide
in
my
section.
So
let's
talk
a
little
bit
about
the
ietf
and
the
participants.
The
ietf
is
made
up
of
all
of
you.
It
is
you
know,
passionate,
smart
and
vocal
people.
Sometimes
you
know
we
come
from
all
over
the
world
a
lot
of
different
cultures.
A
lot
of
you
know
a
lot
of
different
age
diversity.
So
there's
there's
a
very
engaged.
A
Obviously
we're
an
informal
dress
code
type
of
place,
the
the
most
valuable
thing
people
consider
is
a
technical
Excellence.
So
please
do
your
homework
first,
but
then
feel
free
to
speak
up
and
contribute.
Please
go
to
the
mic:
please
stop
people
in
the
hallway
and
ask
them
questions
and
then,
as
you'll
notice,
you'll
observe
over
time.
A
number
of
us
have
been
here
for
a
number
of
years
and
people
seem
to
come
to
the
ietf
and
once
they
get
engaged
in
it,
they
stay
with
the
ietf
through
multiple
companies.
A
C
C
You
missed
some
of
the
cool
things,
but
I'll
talk
about
them
a
little
bit.
The
bulk
of
the
meeting
is
the
working
group
sessions.
The
ITF
is,
as
Karen
said,
is
divided
into
working
groups.
There's
about
130
right
now
and
a
subset
of
them
are
meeting
since
covid.
The
IHF
has
become
much
more
hybrid,
originally
we'd
like
at
the
last
minute.
We
were
all
just
remote,
and
now
it's
hybrid
at
this
point
it's
about
50,
50,
on-site
and
remote
presentations.
C
C
C
There
are
a
number
of
area-wide
sessions,
the
plenary
plenary
being
a
Latin
word
for
meaning
for
everyone.
Together,
surprisingly,
that
is
where
the
leadership
talks
about
here's,
our
finances,
I'll
stand
up
for
five
minutes
and
say
Here's.
What's
going
on
with
the
nominations
committee,
often
there
are
technical
talks,
although
not
recently
there
are
invited
talks,
there's
a
deep
dive,
I
think
Wednesday
morning,
Tuesday
Morning,
but
that's
and
then
each
of
the
areas
often
has
an
area-wide
meeting.
C
C
The
hackathon
is
a
very,
very
popular
event
at
the
ITF,
as
Karen
mentioned
before
the
Mantra
of
rough
consensus
and
running
code.
There
are
about
400
people
attending
the
hackathon
this
session,
this
meeting,
it's
the
Saturday
and
Sunday
before
the
meeting.
So
in
the
future,
you
may
want
to
consider
pushing
your
your
work
time
back
earlier
free
to
join.
There
are
people
who
come
only
to
the
hackathon.
You
get
another
t-shirt
and
a
little
free
meal.
C
Social
events
are
they
are
they
do
do
remote
participation
of
those
kinds
of
things
and
the
plenary
and
other
sessions
are
all
broadcast
Live
on
YouTube
and
recorded
and
appear
in
the
iitf
channel
on
YouTube.
The
social
events
are
in
person
only
if
you
signed
up
for
the
attendees
mailing
list,
it
is
now
starting
to
get
full
of
hey.
I
need
a
social
ticket.
Anybody
got
one
because
there's
always
limited
funds
for
that
hot
rfcs.
In
this
case
it
stands
for
request
for
conversation.
C
This
is
where
somebody
would
stand
up
and
speak
for
five
minutes
and
say:
hey
I.
Have
this
great
idea-
or
this
is
the
research
I'm
working
on
anybody
else-
interested
come
see
them
afterwards?
Side
meetings,
as
Karen
mentioned,
are
just
informal
Gatherings,
where
people
might
want
to
get
together
to
work
on
a
particular
problem.
That's
already
in
a
working
group
or
discuss
something.
Maybe
they
should
get
a
boss,
so
it's
sort
of
a
pre-buff
off
next
slide.
C
So
this
is
what
a
working
group
session
looked
like
in
the
pre-covered
days.
Interestingly,
it
looks
very
much
like
this.
A
couple
people
at
the
desk,
the
working
group
chairs
somebody
who
is
designated
as
a
speaker
for
a
particular
part
of
the
session.
In
this
case
me
and
then
everybody
else
in
the
session
people
present
at
what
has
changed
since
the
last
meeting.
C
That'll
that's
different,
but
if
you
want
to
know
like
what's
happening
in
DNS
with
the
new
record
type
or
TLS,
with
a
new
extension
they're
only
going
to
describe
what
changed
since
the
last
time
we
got
together
So
reading
the
documents
helps
every
session
is
streamed
and
recorded
the
charter,
which
is
set
by
the
iesg.
All
the
area,
directors
limits.
C
What
the
working
group
can
and
should
work
on
the
intent
is
to
keep
maintaining
Focus
we've
had
some
instances
where
working
groups
extended
for
five
six
ten
years,
and
we
don't
want
to
do
that
again.
Next
slide
birds
of
a
feather
as
I
mentioned.
There's
six.
This
time
usually
precedes
a
working
group,
sometimes
they'll
get
together
and
we'll
say:
oh
yeah,
there's
not
really
going
to
be
any
interest
here
or
oh
yeah.
We
could
do
this
thing,
but
there's
already
commercial
involvement
and
they're
not
going
to
listen
to
us
so
we'll
skip
it.
C
Next
research
group
sessions,
the
irtf,
provides
a
prize
for
the
two
best
Publications
in
networking
this
year.
I
forget,
but
one
of
them
is
with
Corinne
Kath.
Her
PhD
thesis
was
on
the
sociology
of
the
ietf,
which
is
very
interesting.
She
had
a
pub
a
paper
published
from
one
chapter
of
her
thesis,
which
was
called
Old
Men
talking
loudly
in
one
room,
so
encouraging
next.
C
So
this
is
a
picture
of
what
the
the
pleneries
look
like.
We
reserve
one
of
the
largest
ballroom
and
they
open
it
all
up,
put
in
all
the
chairs
and
again
there's
a
lot
of
administration.
Administrivia.
That's
the
term
goes,
but
also
it
can
be
worthwhile
to
attend
just
to
get
an
idea
of
what
the
scope
of
things
are
and
what
all
of
those
black
boxes,
pink
boxes,
red
boxes
on
the
org
chart.
That
Karen
showed
look
like
thanks
the
hackathon.
It's
too
late.
C
C
It
can
be
a
stellar
standard,
but
if
nobody
implements
it,
then,
as
far
as
the
iitf
is
concerned,
it's
a
failure.
We
want
to
do
things
that
work
and
that
are
adopted.
People
will
bring
Hardware
system,
you
know
SBC
single
board,
computers
for
some
of
the
the
trust
Zone
secure,
Enclave
work
was
done
at
the
end
of
the
hackathon
there'll,
be
a
presentation
about
who
you
know
what
each
project
did.
There
might
be
a
hackathon
winner.
You
know
arbitrary
things,
but
it's
it's
a
very
popular
event.
C
C
Anyone
can
join
the
hackathon.
There
is
an
RFC
that
talks
about
how
to
run
one
there's
a
link
there
at
the
running
code.
All
of
these
links
are
clickable
in
the
slide
presentation
that
will
be
available
a
month
or
so
within
a
month
after
the
meeting
this
meeting,
networking
and
social
event
sorry
cold
we've
had
this
on.
The
left
is
at
the
Royal
aquarium
in
Singapore
you'd,
see
like
a
giant
octopus
flushing
up
this
time,
it's
at
the
Royal,
the
Albert.
C
What
is
it
something
in
Albert,
Victorian,
Albert
Museum
on
the
right
is
a
picture
of
the
Sisters
organization,
that
is,
for
women
who
people
who
identify
as
female
I
guess
is
the
way
to
put
it
I.
Think
it's
Monday
morning
at
8,
30
or
9
30.
It
is
in
the
agenda
you
can
just
show
up.
If
you
are,
you
know,
present
identify
whatever
as
a
female
there.
It
is
so
there's
another
picture.
That's
looking
down
at
the
hotel
lobby,
general
meeting
etiquette
read
the
document
Center
of
Interest.
C
In
the
data
tracker
for
every
working
group,
there
is
a
list
of
all
the
documents
that
are
being
worked
on
all
of
the
rfcs
that
the
working
group
has
previously
published
and
so
on.
Respectfully,
you
know
privately,
you
know,
be
you
know
an
adult
right,
sometimes
you'll
see
people
say
you
know,
they'll
stand
up
at
the
mic
after
someone
is
presented
and
say
that's
a
really
stupid
idea,
that's
because
they've
known
each
other
for
10
years
and
they
can
speak
frankly.
C
Okay,
you
can
figure
out
another
way
to
say
it
right,
talk
and
listen
enjoy
yourself.
This
is
going
to
be
a
long
week.
It'll
be
a
very
exhausting
week
because,
it's
you
know,
mental
exertion
for
all
of
the
sessions.
Next
online
version
so
meet
Echo
is
the
video
conferencing
system.
We
use
custom,
build
supported
by
medeco
of
Italy.
C
We
want
to
have
good
audio
and
video.
There
is
a
full
What's
called
the
full
and
the
light
version.
The
light
version
is
available
on
your
phone
app.
You
get
it
when
you
click
on
the
on
the
QR
QR
code
outside
every
room
session.
The
the
hotel
room
has
a
sign
that
will
have
the
QR
code
for
the
session.
That's
going
on.
That's
also
how
you
get
in
line.
So
people
wanted
to
talk.
C
They
have
to
click
the
button
that
say,
Enter
the
queue
and
then
the
chairs
will
say
yes
you're
next
and
so
on.
We
try
to
be
equal
between
local
in-person
attendance
and
remote
virtual.
In
one
of
my
groups,
for
example,
the
first
presenter
is
going
to
be
remote
from
New
York.
So
it's
it's
sort
of
like
the
way
everybody
does
video
conferencing
these
days.
C
C
Every
working
group
has
a
zulup
room.
Think
of
it
and
you
can
do
chats
during
the
meeting.
Zulup
is
also
integrated
with
meet
Echo.
So
if
you're,
using
a
browser
and
the
full
client
say
remotely,
there's
the
you'll
see
pictures
of
who's
speaking
the
slides
and
then
on
the
side.
There
will
be
the
chat
room
scrolling
by
the
chats
are
often
used
for
back
Channel
communication.
Like
hey
what
did
he
just
mean
when
he
said
forward
error,
correction
or
she
I
mean
when
they
just
said
forward?
C
C
Okay,
so
there
are
many
many
people
here
to
help
you
this
newcomers
tutorial
new
participants.
Tutorial
sorry
is
one
of
the
the
track.
Michelle
cotton
from
the
Secretariat,
the
Secretariat
is
Ams.
It
is
a
Professional
Organization
hired
by
the
ietf
to
do
lots
of
logistics.
They
run
the
registration
desk
during
the
week.
You
can
recognize
them
by
the
blue
shirts.
It's
the
lovely
Michelle
is
wearing
lovely
caramel
Mill
on
Friday.
They
will
all
wear
Hawaiian
shirts,
which
is
fun
tie-dye.
Okay,
this
year
it's
tie-dye
very
casual,
very
friendly,
very
fun.
C
They
will
certainly
help
you
and
point
you
to
the
right
direction,
also,
particularly
within
this
hotel,
where
the
meetings
are
in
two
different
towers,
and
this
elevator
doesn't
go
to
that
place
and
this
elevator
doesn't
go
to
that
place.
They
can
be
invaluable.
The
ITF
leadership,
the
area
directors,
are
picked
by
nam-com,
which
I
am
the
chair
of
this
year,
a
non-voting
member
of
Lancome.
As
the
chair
glorified
secretary,
they
can
help
badges
I
think
this
index
slide
has
the
buttons
on
the
badges,
the
ITF
support
staff.
C
So
everyone
should
have
a
badge
like
this.
Sometimes
there
are
you
know
new
attendee,
so
you
can
ask
questions
the
smiley
face,
which
doesn't
use
that
much
anymore
means
yeah.
You
can
come
and
ask
me
questions
later
today.
There
is
the
newcomers
meet
and
greet
session
sort
of
speed
dating
you
go
from
table
to
table
every
five
minutes
next
table
to
meet
senior
leadership,
leadership,
working
group
chairs
and
area
directors,
and
so
on.
C
Try
saying
that
it's
working
group
next
Jay
Daly
is
our
executive
director
hired
professional
organizer
enforces,
you
know,
he's
the
bouncer.
He
will
enforce
the
rules.
We've
had
to
tell
someone
you
know
put
on
your
mask
or
please
leave
the
meeting
room
right
now.
So
we
do,
the
coveted
rules
were
done
by
community-wide
consultation,
and
so
we
are,
you
know
enforcing
them.
We
don't
want
anybody
to
get
sick.
It's
okay!
C
If
you're,
tired,
it's
okay,
if
you're
strung
out
but
don't
get
sick
next,
the
Secretariat
as
I
mentioned
there,
they
are.
Oh
two
people
are
out
of
uniform
next
ombuds
team
yeah,
that's
oh
yeah!
Okay,
the
RFC
editors,
the
documents
we
publish
are
called
rfcs.
That's
a
nod
back
to
our
history
when
the
very
first
ietf
documents-
and
it
was
called
the
internet,
Engineering
Group
or
something
like
that-
were
a
grad
student
put
out
a
paper
saying,
hey
I,
think
this
is
how
a
computer
should
connect
to
the
network
and
I.
C
Don't
know
what
to
call
it.
So
I'll
just
call
it
a
request
for
comments.
We
keep
that
history
or
that
nod
to
history.
The
also
the
thing
is
in
RFC.
While
it
never
changes,
it
can
evolve
and
a
New
Roc
will
be
published
every
standard
that
the
ietf
does
as
well
as
informational
documents.
Independent
submissions
are
all
called
rfcs.
The
RC
editors
people
on
the
left,
probably
early
in
your
ITF
Journey.
Most
useful
to
swing
by
and
grab
a
candy
right
it
it's
great
I.
C
First,
three
days,
I'm
I,
say
hi
and
I
don't
take
any
candy
by
Thursday
I'm
like
give
me
the
candy.
So
Ayanna
are
the
people
who
assign
the
what's
called
Reserve
numbers.
If
you
look
at
ianna.org,
for
example,
many
protocols
have
a
space
in
them
for
extension,
Fields,
additional
data
and
so
on.
So
for
the
most
common
example
might
be.
The
TCP
port
number
right.
So
80
is
the
web.
C
443
is
the
web
over
TLS
53
is
a
DNS
and
those
numbers
have
to
be
maintained
in
a
central
place
and
the
rules
for
assigning
them
are
determined
by
the
ietf,
but
Ayanna
keeps
track
of
all
of
them.
So
we
don't
have
two
people
trying
to
get
the
same.
You
know
use
the
same
port
number,
also
very
friendly,
and
that's
an
old
picture
right,
because
you're
there
yeah
Michelle
moved
from
okay
yeah.
We
need
a
new
picture.
C
The
ombuds
team,
as
I
mentioned
more
than
once
the
ITF
members
have
known
each
other
and
worked
together
for
a
long
time.
They
might
be
more
free
with
the
language
than
you
would
expect
new
people
to
to
recognize,
but
we
don't
like
harassment
and
we
don't
tolerate
it.
So
if
you
are
concerned,
you
go
to
the
ombuds
team.
C
I
know:
Pete
is
here,
he's
got
long,
white
hair
and
a
ponytail,
and
his
he
makes
me
look,
makes
me
look
taller
than
Maverick
and
I'm,
not
sure
if
Melinda
or
Allison
are
here
yet
but
or
you
can
speak
to
any
of
the
leadership
or
the
AMS
down
at
the
bottom.
You
know
down
at
the
registration
area
in
same
house
reporting
issues
as
I
said
we
take
it.
We
take
reports
very
seriously,
you'll
often
see
in
the
note
well,
which
is
our
rules
about
patents
and
things
like
that.
C
But
ultimately
it'll
say
you
know
be
good
because
be
excellent
to
each
other
right.
This
is
a
engineering
organization,
engineering,
oriented
organization
trying
to
make
the
internet
work
better
by
doing
high
quality
standards
that
are
implemented,
and
so
there's
sometimes
you
know,
push
and
pull
and
tugs
of
War.
So
we
want
to
be
able
to
do
that
without
crossing
the
line
into
abusive
or
harassing.
C
C
I
remember
in
one
place:
I
was
in
Montreal,
which
is
all
the
hotels
and
so
on,
are
connected
by
tunnels
and
there's
a
big
underground
shopping
center
and
someone
said
I,
don't
know
what
this
iatf
hotel
is,
but
boy
do
they
have
good
Wi-Fi
and
they
do
and
we
do
the
P,
the
volunteers
who
and
paid
staff
who
run
the
network
operations
center.
They
did
a,
they
do
a
yeoman
job.
They
come
in
the
week
before
they
run
cables.
There's
Wi-Fi
access
points
in
every
single
room.
C
We
take
over
the
hotel's
Wi-Fi,
so
it's
free
right,
no
fifteen
dollars
and
seven
pounds
a
day
or
whatever
there's
a
printer
and
a
help
desk
near
the
registration
area.
If
you
need
to
print
out,
you
know
your
boarding
pass
or
a
document
that
you
need
to.
You
know
you
want
some
notes
to
present
at
a
working
group.
That's
where
you
can
go.
They
did
an
amazing
job,
the
for
those
who
don't
know
the
hotel
lost
power
yesterday
morning.
C
For
a
few
minutes,
and
then
what
happened
is
the
on
the
power
supplies
kicked
in
the
batteries
kicked
in
and
so
all
was
fine
and
then,
when
the
power
came
up,
the
first
thing
that
happened
is
the
batteries
wanted
the
UPS
wanted
to
recharge,
and
so
it
blew
a
circuit
breaker
and
the
network
stayed
up
more
or
less
throughout.
All
of
that,
so
they're
very
intensive
people.
Next
mailing
lists
the
ietf
works
on
mailing
lists.
The
meetings
are
designed
to
get
together.
We
meet
three
times
a
year.
C
The
meetings
are
designed
to
get
together
and
hash
out
things
that
can't
be
addressed
on
mailing
lists.
Obviously
email.
You
know
you
often
end
up
talking
past
each
other
or
you're,
not
clear,
particularly
as
a
global
organization,
where
English
is
not
everybody's
first
language
and
Technical
English
is
even
less
everybody's
first
language,
but
you
know
we
want
to
present.
We
presented
the
meetings,
what's
happened
since
and
so
on,
and
then
you'll
often
hear
at
a
working
group
session.
C
People
there'll
be
some
discussion
and
we'll
say,
okay.
How
many
people
think
that
this
is
a
good
feature?
Please
hum
now
you
hear
a
hum
and
then
the
chairs
will
say:
okay,
we'll
confirm
that
on
the
mailing
list
and
what
that
means
is
they'll
go
back
to
the
email
list
after
the
ITF
week
and
say
at
the
meeting
we
decided
you
know
we
came
to
the
consensus
that
this
is
a
good
feature.
Does
anybody
object,
so
every
all
of
the
official
business
happens
on
the
mailing
list.
C
The
mailing
lists
are
archived
they've
been
subject
to
subpoenas
who
was
in
the
room
has
been
subject
to
subpoenas,
but
it's
a
you
know.
We
generally
don't
care
about
all
of
those
things.
If
you
just
scan
the
QR
code,
you're
all
set
every
working
group
has
a
mailing
list.
Sure
leave
it.
That's
fine!
Oh
my
group
data
tracker
dt.itf.org.
This
is
a
the
status
page
for
the
transport
TLS
Security
Group.
It's
no
longer
SSL
right.
C
Nobody
runs
SSL
anymore
right,
right,
okay,
good
the
first
tab
is
about
that'll
show
here's
the
group,
here's
the
charter
of
things
are
set
to
do.
A
group
can
change
its
Charter
to
add
new
things.
For
example,
the
crypto
groups
recently
got
recharged
to
address
post,
Quantum,
crypto
right
stuff,
like
that,
here's
a
list
of
all
the
documents,
the
current
drafts,
the
status
is
the
most
important
thing,
so
the
psk
clients
guidance
at
the
bottom
of
the
page.
There
says
yes,
the
working
group
is
done
with
it.
C
The
iesg
looked
at
it
approved
it.
The
ietf
overall
looked
at
it
and
approved
it,
and
now
it's
waiting
for
the
fine
people
at
the
our
PC
production,
Center
RPC
to
to
publish
it
and
it
usually
takes
a
month
or
two
next
miracle.
The
miracle
fight
guys
you'll
see
them
around.
They
have
Miracle
shirts
line
speed
of
the
network.
People
Miracle
is
the
video
conferencing
systems
every.
C
If
you
look
at
the
agenda,
there
are
icons
for
every
meeting
and
one
of
them
is
the
video
link,
one
of
them
points
to
the
data
tracker
page,
another
points
to
the
minutes,
and
so
on.
It's
it's
great.
Often
as
Karen
said,
this
is
usually
the
first
meeting
in
whatever
room
we're
in
so
there's
often
some
bugs
to
shake
out,
but
we
haven't
had
any
backwards.
C
Okay,
zulup!
It's
our
chat
system,
unbiased
because
I
helped
influence
it.
It's
like
slack
but
better
zulup.ietf.org.
If
you
have
a
data
tracker
login
which
are
free
and
you
should
probably
have
one
because
of
registration,
you
can
see
that
they're
very
zulup
is
called
them
streams
rather
than
rooms.
You
can
start
topics
inside
streams
and
there
is
one
for
it's
integrated
with
meat.
Echo
there's
one
for
every
working
group,
there's
also
a
hallway
and
then
a
note.
Well
sorry,
a
new
participants
up.
C
C
The
first
time
we
were
here,
they
actually
had
a
scavenger
hunt.
We
had
to
find
all
the
Looms
additional
resources
getting
started
in
the
ITF.
These
various
links,
the
Dow
I'm,
not
a
big
fan
of
the
Dow,
it's
too
big
and
we're
going
to
revise
it
and
split
it
up
into
smaller,
more
digestible
pieces.
There's
a
glossary
that
talks
about
many
meeting
terms
and
so
on,
various
mailing
lists
and
so
on,
and
then
the
One-Stop
shop
is
the
link
at
the
bottom.
That
lists
all
of
the
other
links.
B
So
my
name
is
Michelle
cotton.
If
you're
on
the
new
participant
mailing
list,
I'm
the
one
who's
been
sending
you,
those
weekly
emails,
I
really
hope.
They've
been
helpful
and
if,
at
any
time
during
the
meeting,
I
think
like
Karen,
said
earlier
in
the
presentation,
if
there's
something
that
you
wish,
you
would
have
known
more
information
about
something
that
really
would
have
helped
you
navigate
this
meeting.
Let
me
know
I'm
usually
found
around
the
registration
desk
or
you
can
always
just
email
the
participant
list,
the
new
participant
list.
B
B
Looking
at
the
new
participant
activities
at
this
particular
ietf
meeting
and
we've
got
this
session
later
this
afternoon
we
have
something
called
quick
connections
and,
as
rich
said,
there's
experienced
ietfers
and
you
kind
of
go
from
table
to
table
talking
with
those
different
ietfers.
They
can
answer
questions.
If
you
have
specific
questions
about
what
working
groups
you
should
go
to
you,
let
them
know
what
you're
interested
in
they
can
help
guide
you
and
even
provide
some
names
of
people.
B
If
there's
something
very
specific
that
you
want
to
talk
about
with
someone,
they
can
point
you
in
the
right
direction.
If
you
don't
get
to
that
quick
connections-
and
you
still
have
questions
about
that-
please
feel
free
to
reach
out
to
me.
If
I
don't
know
an
answer
right
away,
I'll
definitely
get
one
for
you.
B
Monday
night,
we've
got
a
new
participant's
dinner
I.
Think
it's
mostly
sold
out
as
of
right
now.
But
if
you
didn't
get
a
chance
to
sign
up
and
we
do
have
space,
you
can
check
with
us
at
the
registration
desk
and
then
on
Thursday.
We
have
a
Social
Hour,
there's
going
to
be
food
and
Beverages,
and
it's
a
chance
just
to
talk
with
you
find
out
how
your
meeting
week
went.
B
Additional
activities
we
talked
a
little
bit
about
this
before,
but
this
evening
is
the
welcome
reception.
Please
come
there's
going
to
be
tons
of
food,
there's
going
to
be
drinks,
lots
of
people
lots
of
faces
at
least
eyes
to
see,
but
please
join
us
there.
Also
tonight
is
hot
RSC.
Rich
talked
about
that.
It's
just
a
chance
to
see
these
very
quick
presentations
of
new
ideas
and
things
that
people
are
working
on
that
could
lead
to
future
work.
B
B
People
will
will
say
that
their
plans
have
changed
and
sometimes
the
ticket
will
become
available
and
also
the
plenary
on
Wednesday
night,
just
general
information
there
and
it's
also
a
great
place
to
see
the
iesg
leadership,
the
IAB
and
actually
match
faces
to
the
names,
if
you're
still
not
sure
where
to
start
there's
a
blog
post
there
on
some
new
topics
that
may
be
of
interest
to
New
participants
scan
the
agenda.
If
you
have
any
questions,
please
let
the
secretary
at
staff
know
or
drop
an
email
to
the
mailing
mailing
list.
B
Somebody
will
reach
out,
obviously
connect
in
person.
You've
got
other
new
attendees
with
the
little
red
strip
ribbon,
reach
out
talk
to
other
people,
hop
on
zoo
lip
and
obviously
the
mailing
lists
and
there's
just
resources
for
you
to
get
help.
Registration
desks
were
always
there
to
to
help
you.
If
you
have
any
questions
about
logistics
about
the
Hotel,
this
particular
hotel
is
probably
the
most
confusing
one.
We've
ever
been
to
and
I've
been
going
to
ITF
meetings
since
2000.
B
B
Keep
an
eye
on
the
agenda.
We
do
in
general,
it
doesn't
change,
but
there
are
cancellations
every
once
in
a
while
and
rarely
there's
a
room
change,
but
you
just
want
to
keep
an
eye
on
the
agenda
to
see
if
there
are
any
changes
to
the
groups
that
you're
going
to
be
attending
and
yeah
above
all
enjoy.