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Newcomers Overview Webinar for IETF103
This webinar is an introduction to the IETF's history, purpose, and processes.
A
In
advance,
we've
in
recent
I
guess
just
this:
past
year
we
started
doing
these
in
advance
of
the
IETF
rich
Saul's,
a
longtime
participant
in
the
IETF,
and
one
of
our
security
experts
is
going
to
be
presenting
today.
I'll
be
online,
moderating
and
sort
of
answering
any
questions
that
you
want
to
put
into.
The
chat
so
feel
free
to
speak
up
and
ask
any
questions
that
you
have
and
with
that
rich
I
will.
Let
you
take
over
great.
B
Thank
you,
as
they
say
good
morning,
good
afternoon
good
evening,
it's
depending
on
your
timezone
I
am,
as
Karen
said,
I
work
in
security
groups
for
my
employer,
I've
been
involved
with
the
IETF
for
longer
than
I
care
to
admit.
We
have
a
number
of
people
from
the
edge
new
team,
which
is
educational
and
outreach
and
helps
prepare
slides
and
do
these
kinds
of
things
Karen
is
here
Mirim.
B
You
can
see
these
if
you
look
on
the
participants
in
the
chat
rooms
on
the
left
hand,
side
expand
that
Greg
wood
from
the
Internet
Society,
who
also
does
a
lot
of
the
graphics,
coordination
and
health,
and
there
were
probably
others.
Those
marked
as
observers
on
the
bottom.
There
Tobiah
is
our
me
deco
representative.
If
you
have
AV
problems,
ping
him
directly
without
volunteer
him
for
so
and
I
apologize
if
I
skip
anybody
missed
anybody,
the
chat,
room
and
we'll
have
where
any
links
that
are
mentioned
will
be
posted.
B
B
First-Timers,
you
know
kind
of.
Obviously
this
is
someone
who
is
attending
their
first
I
or
planning
on
attending
their
first
IETF.
This
slide
deck
and
presentation
is
designed
to
help
with
that.
It's
sort
of
unusual
if
you've
been
to
any
other
standards
activities,
it's
a
very
ITF,
is
very
different
newcomers.
B
The
IETF
meets
three
times
a
year.
According
to
the
you
know,
in
March,
in
the
US
Canada
South
America
region,
in
July
we
meet
in
Europe
and
in
November
we
meet
in
Asia
newcomers,
or
you
know.
We
consider
that
or
people
can
consider
themselves
a
newcomer
if
they,
you
know
up
to
five
meetings,
which
actually
means
you
know
it
could
be
two
three
calendar
years
that
you've
been
attending
the
ITF,
but
you
could
still
feel
like
a
newcomer.
B
B
Ok,
so
welcome
to
the
ITF,
the
URL
at
the
top,
that's
the
ITF
home,
so
I
home
site.
The
I'll
mention
just
for
history
sake
that
gentlemen,
Scott
Brandner
and
Mike
st.
John's
have
done
earlier.
Presentations
of
this
you
can
find
versions
of
their
talks
of
videos.
Online
Scott
had
started
this
whole
thing
and
had
been
there
doing
it
for
years
he
worked
at
Harvard
for
a
number
of
years
and
then,
ultimately
retired
they
were
gonna
start
he
jumped
ahead
on
the
slide.
B
B
Somebody
has
to
sign
the
agreements
with
the
hotel.
We
have
a
thousand
people
coming
right.
It
can't
just
be
a
bunch
of
Engineers.
No,
but
few
of
us
have
that
kind
of
signature,
Authority
related
organizations,
then
the
overall
a
nutshell
of
the
overall
week
and
then
finally
end
up
with
key
people
and
additional
resources
for
more
information.
On
that
last
one
I'll
mention
we
are
also
giving
this
tutorial
during
the
Sunday
tutorial
sessions
feel
free
to
come.
Multiple
times
feel
free
to
drag.
You
know
to
corral
any
of
the
speakers.
B
B
By
the
end
of
it,
you
can
probably
recite
them
recite
many
of
the
things
you
know,
ECT
79
much
of
the
content
on
your
own.
Certainly
on
Thursday
or
Friday
people
say
here's
a
no
well
slide.
You've
all
seen
it
before
move
right
to
the
next
one.
You'll
see
it
a
lot.
Do
Purdue
read
this
offline
on
your
own
and
follow
some
of
the
links
in.
A
B
B
Pcp
stands
for
best
current
practice
and
these
point
to
specific
RFC's
document.
Other
documents,
the
BCP
number
stays
the
same,
but
the
RFC
number
may
change
as
things
get
modified
over
the
course
of
the
years.
So
you
can
find
these
there's
a
privacy
policy.
You
can
find
these
documents
just
type.
You
know
ITA
cp9,
in
your
link
in
your
browser
in
your
search
engine.
The
link
at
the
top
has
a
pointer
to
this
note.
B
B
B
Quick
connections
later
on
Sunday
afternoon
is
think
of
it
like
it's,
not
quite
speed-dating,
but
we
have
a
number
of
people
in
the
room
volunteering
who,
in
here
for
a
while
or
participated
for
a
long
time
and
short
one
on
one
people
will
circulate
around
the
room.
The
moderator
at
the
front
will
say:
okay
next
and
you
move
on
to
the
next
station.
All
of
this
information
can
be
found
in
the
newcomers
slides,
which
is
matching
the
link
at
the
top.
The
meet-and-greet
is
more
group
conversation.
B
This
is
where
all
of
the
working
group
chairs
and
the
area
directors
will
be
gathered
at
little
stations
and,
if
you're
interested
in
say,
routing
or
the
domain
system,
you
can
congregate
at
those
areas,
and
you
know
I'm
interested
in
wondering
about
DNS
privacy.
Where
do
I
go
or
I
want
to
understand
how
you
know
BGP
routing
hijacking.
Can
it
be
prevented?
Where
should
I
go?
So
that's
the
the
meet
and
greet
that
rolls
right.
B
So
the
quick
connections
and
the
meet
and
greet
are
generally
in
the
same
room
and
then
that
rolls
right
into
the
opening
reception,
which
is
where
everybody
comes
in
you'll
get
most
of
the
people
there.
A
couple
hundred
folks
there
is,
you
know,
hosted
by
one
of
the
sponsors
appetizers
beer
wine
things
like
that.
B
There
is
here's,
a
link
about
mentoring.
We
have
a
mentor
program.
If
you
are
interested,
you
can
say
you
know
say
what
kinds
of
things
you're
interested
in
what
languages
you
speak.
The
IETF
does
work
all
in
English
side,
conversations
of
course
happen
and
whether
whatever
native
languages
there
are.
But
if
you
want
you,
you
know
you
can
say.
I
am
a
native
Korean
speaker
interested
in
DNS,
and
we
try
to
match
up
the
mentoring.
B
Chair
tries
to
match
up
people,
you
know
with
them
and
that
person
will
be
available
to
you
throughout
the
whole
week
tilt
guide
you
through
a
newcomers
dinner
Monday
night.
You
can
sign
up
for
that.
I
forget
Karen.
Do
you
know?
Is
that
generally
a
sign
up
or
its
posted
on
the
attendees
list
right
or
do
they
just
check
the
newcomers
page
at
the
top?
Do
you
recall.
A
B
Great
and
that's
a
you
know,
a
group
payday
for
yourself
go
out
share
experiences
and
so
on
at
the
end
of
the
week,
there's
a
feedback
session
set
aside
so
that
we
can
take
your
feedback
and
push
it
back
into
the
process,
there's
also
tutorial
evaluations
and
so
on,
so
that
we
try.
You
know
continuous
improvement,
as
they
say:
okay,
next
preparing
for
an
IETF
meeting,
so
this
this
slide
deck
is
intended
to
help
you
get
ready
for
ITF
week
in
two
weeks.
B
B
You
don't
have
to
know
how
to
prepare
and
read
a
document.
If,
especially,
if
you're
a
newcomer,
it's
you
know
if
you
can
identify
things
that
are
of
interest
to
you,
read
those
documents
and
be
prepared
to
discuss
or
comment
on
them.
That's
that
should
be
a
good
measure
of
success.
You
should
say
you're
successful.
There
is
a
YouTube
channel
where
we
have
recorded
versions
of
most
of
the
working
group
sessions.
Remote
participation
is
possible.
You
can
view
these
things,
you
know
offline,
but
we
want
to
just
give
you
an
you
know.
B
There's
a
lot
to
compliment
to
understand.
The
ITF
has
been
functioning
for
twenty
years.
Basically,
and
so
we
just
want
to
help
make
it
successful.
Make
you
successful
at
it
before
I
get
into
the
next
thing.
Are
there
any
questions
about?
Overall,
you
know
the
background
about
what
we're
doing
here
and
so
on.
Questions
about
the
note.
Well,.
B
Okay,
so
I'm
moving
apart
to
give
a
quick
overview
of
the
ITF,
the
main
groups,
people
probably
have
an
idea
of
like
what
a
working
group
is
and
I'll
try
to
build
up
down
from
that
to
talk
about
the
overall
structure,
the
ITF
ecosystem,
it's
undergoing
a
bit
of
change
now,
so
for
the
most
part,
you
shouldn't
care.
If
what
you're
interested
is
in
the
technical
content,
as
opposed
to
the
organizational
governance
and
which
rule
who
hosts
the
501
C
3
charitable
organisation,
there's
different
groups
for
that.
But
this
is
mainly
you
know.
B
B
Somebody
should
be
able
to
read
what
we
call
an
RFC
or
in
particularly
standards,
track
RFC
and
be
able
to
implement
it.
We
should
be
able
to
have
interoperable
implementations
so
that
one
person's
implementation,
say
of
HTTP
will
work
with
any
other
implementation
of
HTTP.
Now
human
language
and
English
language
is
full
of
ambiguities
on
possible
misunderstandings,
so
we
won't
get
it
perfect,
but
our
goal
is
to
have
interoperable
specs
that
are
needed.
You
can't
have
the
web
without
a
client
and
a
browser.
B
Also
the
browser
needs
to
understand
the
domain
system
so
that
it
can
map
a
name
to
an
IP
address
the
infrastructure
components
of
that,
such
as
your
internet
service
provider,
the
other
Internet
service
provider
middleboxes
along
the
way.
Other
intermediaries,
such
as
content,
distribution,
network
CD
ends.
They
all
need
to
understand
routing.
They
also
under
need
to
understand
DNS
and
all
of
these
kinds
of
things,
but
we
want
to
make
things
interoperable
secure
possible
to
operate
securely
and
then
it
can
be
is
deployed.
B
We
have
turned
away
from
work
that
wasn't
widely
deployable.
There
was
talk
of
when
I
remember
particular
about
looking
at
Internet
file
systems.
Right,
there's
some
work
going
on
that,
but
you
think
of
things
like
you
know.
The
only
name
that
comes
to
mind
is
Dropbox,
but
there
are
three
or
four
people
in
that
field
and
it
doesn't
make
sense
for
the
ITF
to
get
involved
in
that,
because
they're
currently
all
point
solutions.
Okay,
so
looking
for
stuff,
that's
scalable
well
defined
well
written
as
best
as
engineers
can
write
it
and
can
be
deployed
effectively.
B
B
B
Every
pretty
much
every
country
has
organization
that
sets
up
national
standards
and
it's
not
just
for
computer
technology
information
technology.
They
tend
to
also
get
involved
in
you
know
other
things
like
the
proper
ratio
of
concrete
mixes
and
so
on
right,
we're
different.
We
focused
purely
on
technology.
The
same
way
the
I
Triple
E
focuses
purely
on
electronic
and
computer
technology.
B
B
B
If
there's
a
spec
and
ten
entities
have
implemented
an
ambiguous
port
in
one
way
and
two
people
entities
have
implemented
it
in
a
different
way.
Well,
it
tends
to
be
goes
to
the
running
code.
Side
of
Thanks
rough
consensus
means
we
don't
all
have
to
agree,
not
everything.
There
are
many
contentious
and
heated
discussions
within
the
ITF,
but
it
does
mean
that
everybody
has
to
have
their
viewpoint
heard.
You
know
the
group
could
hear
it
and
say
no,
that's
thanks
for
contributing,
but
you
know
we're
not
going
to
focus
on
that
or
we're
not
gonna.
B
You
know
I
disagree
and
the
majority
of
the
people
disagree.
Humming
is
a
really
interesting
kind
of
thing.
That
was
a
write
up
and
game
tech
Republic
about
the
musical
way
TLS
spec
was
done
and
they
talked
about
it
in
person
on
Sunday
will
typically
do
home,
so
people
can
get
an
idea
of
what
it's
like.
There
is
a
document
on
how
the
homes
work.
B
The
other
point
is
well
I
mentioned
about
the
marketplace
and
and
the
other
the
point
that
makes
us
unique.
Is
we
work
from
the
bottom
up?
We
work
for
somebody's,
an
engineer,
a
technician.
A
technology
person
says
I
have
an
issue
that
I
want
to
solve.
I
think
it's
deployed
I
believe
it's
of
general
use
to
the
Internet
and
they
get
a
group
of
like-minded
engineers
developers
technologists.
B
What
have
you
all
together
and
they
work
on
a
problem
or
a
problem
statement
and
then
it
bubbles
up
to
through
the
area,
the
area,
directors,
and
then
we
said:
okay,
well,
charter,
a
group
that
says
yes,
you
should
work
on
this
kind
of
thing
right
as
opposed
to
people
from
the
top
down
saying.
Oh,
we
need
a
new
version
of
ADA.
You
know
whatever
the
wireless
access
protocol
may
be
or.
B
B
The
RFC,
the
itit,
has
no
authority
to
enforce
its
standards.
They'll
hear
the
phrase
we're
not
the
protocol
police.
If
somebody
does
something,
that's
wrong
or
non-interoperable,
there's
really
nothing.
The
IDF
can
do
we
get
our
or
leverage
from
the
network
effect.
Everybody
else
is
doing
it
one
way
and
you're
doing
it
this
way,
then
you
really
want
to
talk
with
anybody
else.
B
The
ITF
is
organized
into
areas
of
related
work
area
is
actually
a
specific
term,
as
well
as
a
generic
term.
We
have
area
directors
on
the
people
who
manage
the
area,
so
this
is
the
next,
the
first
phase
about
hierarchy.
The
areas
change
I
have
changed
over
time,
I
think
about
two
years
ago.
We
shuffle
some
things
around,
make
those
three
but
and
you'll
see
these
three-letter
abbreviations.
B
B
Dns
Network,
routing
security,
general
is
sort
of
general
internet
that
has
nowhere
else
to
go,
including
let's
call
it
the
metadata
part
of
how
the
IETF
itself
is
organized,
such
as.
Where
do
we
meet?
How
do
we
need
and
how
do
what
kind
of
legal
structures
do
we
need?
The
web
tends
to
be
in
a
RT
transport
tends
to
be
things
like
TCP
UDP,
about
congestion,
control
and
so
on.
B
B
Okay,
the
center
is
heard,
but
it
doesn't
control.
You
can't
hijack
a
conversation.
You
can't
hijack
a
direction
of
the
way
that
you
know
to
force
something
to
be
addressed
typically
or
standing
for
the
ITF.
There
is
a
document
called
an
RFC.
It
talks
about
it,
I
written
by
Pete
Resnick,
a
long
time
participant
all
of
the
content.
You
know
a
lot
in
the
working
group
meetings
in
the
face-to-face
meetings.
We
work
by
humming
humming
has
a
number
of
advantages.
It's
anonymous.
You
can't
tell
who
else
is
humming,
so
it's
it's
hard
to
see.
B
Who
else
is
you
know
interested
I
hate
to
use
the
word
vote,
but
who
else
is
going
for
one
side
or
another?
You
base
it
on
volume,
cause
it's
really
hard
to
hum
loud,
as
opposed
to
say
copying
or
yelling
or
talking.
So
it's
interesting.
It's
very
interesting.
It's
very
unusual
if
I
said
compared
to
other
things,
we
don't
even
the
only
time.
B
Okay,
so
let
me
talk
about
the
culture
if
you've
been
involved
in
the
computer
field,
not
much
of
this
should
be
new.
Tf-Idf
is
computer
people,
we
tend
to
be
passionate.
We
tend
to
have
our
own
hobby
horses.
We
tend
to
be
very
smart.
We
tend
to
be
very
vocal,
less
so
and
don't
feel
you
have
to
be
cup
for
newcomers
and
and
first-timers,
but
also
don't
be
afraid
to
we
probably
get
more
than
our
fair
share
of
people
who
can
be
brusque
or
abrupt,
don't
take
it
personally.
People
are
commenting
on.
B
You
know
the
the
ideas
and
the
technology
suggestions,
not
on
the
individuals
if
they
do
comment
its
joking
between
people
who
have
known
each
other
for
a
decade
or
more
okay,
so
someone
will
stand
up.
This
is
a
really
stupid
idea
if
you're
the
one
who
said
that
idea
or
you're
in
favor
that
idea
try
to
understand.
You
know
what
it
is.
They're
saying
again,
don't
take
it
personally,
because
someone
else
will
come
up
next
and
say
no,
no,
that
that
commentary
is
all
off
base.
B
They're
missing
the
main
point
and
sort
of
technical
excellence
is
the
is
the
only
thing
that
really
counts,
not
totally,
but
you
know
you
can't
harass
and
you
can't
abuse
people,
but
it's
the
main
main
point
accounts
in
formal
dress
code.
People
show
up
wearing
whatever
they're
comfortable
with.
There
are
a
number
of
long-term
participants
and
by
number
it
may
be
as
small
as
a
handful
who
wear
three-piece
suits.
There
are
people
who
were
you
know
yarmulkes
or
other
symbols
of
faith.
There
are
people
who
wear
jeans
in
a
t-shirt.
B
It's
you.
You
get
a
free
t-shirt
like
any
other
meeting,
techne
nobody.
You
know
again.
We
judge
by
what
you
say
not
by
what
you
were,
what
you
wear
people
who
have
been
coming
to
these
IETF
meetings
for
years
and
years,
it's
a
chance
to
renew
friendships.
Face-To-Face!
Oh
look.
My
company
paid
to
send
me
to
London
and
now
I
get
to
see.
You
know
gave
Crocker
again
or
something
like
that
right.
It's
it's
they're
close
working
relationships.
They
continue
excited
to
face-to-face
meetings
with
email,
conversations
on
the
working
group
privately
and
so
on.
B
People
do
know
each
other,
don't
being
intimidated
by
this.
If
you
see
a
couple
of
people
talking
to
and
talking-
and
you
want
to
ask
one
of
them
question
because
you've
heard
him
say
something
him
or
her
say
something
the
other
day
or
earlier
that
day
or
in
the
previous
session,
just
sort
of
stand
there
and
wait
to
be.
You
know,
excuse
me,
can
I
just
I'm
gonna,
ask
you
what
you
meant
by
this.
B
The
main
the
the
green
box
is
the
main
thing
that
counts,
but
I'll
just
mention
this
to
provide
a
larger
context.
The
Internet
Society
works
to
promote
the
growth
and
involvement
of
the
Internet
globally.
They
are
a
large,
fairly
large
organization.
They
have
internet
society
fellows,
were
people
from
or
appointed
from
around
or
chosen
from
around
the
world
sent
to
the
ITF.
B
B
There
has
to
be
some
kind
of
legal
entity
because,
like
I
said
earlier,
somebody
has
to
sign
the
hotel
contracts.
You
know
a
hotel
is
not
going
to
reserve
wounds
for
a
thousand
people
unless
somebody
pointings
up
and
makes
a
deposit
and
does
all
of
that
kind
of
stuff.
Somebody
has
to
manage
the
bank
accounts.
Somebody
has
to
hold
the
intellectual
property,
such
as
the
trademarks,
the
copyright
and
someone.
That's
the
trust
somebody
has
to
be
a
liaison
to
these
other
organizations
that
help
support
the
ietf
handled
contributions.
B
That's
I
asked
so
the
Internet
administrative
support
activity,
it's
being
changed.
There's
a
new
LLC
corporation
being
created
act
like
just
created
a
month
ago
for
the
most
part
you
don't
have
to
worry
about
it.
Just
if
you
see
these
names,
you
don't
know
what
they
are.
The
IAB
is
really,
you
know,
kind
of
part
of
the
IETF.
It
is
a
group
of
senior
people
who
think
about
the
long
term
direction
technical
direction
of
the
internet.
No
not
can
I
get
fiber
to
every
home,
but
can
I
get
ipv6
everywhere?
What's
preventing
that.
A
B
Is
the
preventing
ipv6
working
over
mobile
networks,
things
like
that,
not
caps,
and
so
on.
The
big
thing
is
the
green
box.
You'll
see
a
number
circles
there.
Each
circle
representing
an
area.
The
areas
are
the
ones
mentioned
two
or
three
slides
back
so
inside
security.
What
I'm
most
familiar
with
you'll,
see:
TLS
acne
certificates,
curdle
encryption
and
so
on.
All
of
that
stuff
and
the
planning
and
so
on
is
run
by
the
IFC.
A
B
The
minister,
the
the
Secretariat
handles
all
of
the
day-to-day
paperwork
filing
blue
sheets
or
when
people
sign
in
as
I
believe
you
had
to
do
for
this
presentation.
The
Secretariat
collects
all
of
those
sheets.
They
make
sure
that
when
sheets
are
available,
they
make
sure
that
me
deco
is
in
all
of
the
meeting
rooms
they
help
with
the
volunteer.
They
coordinate
the
volunteers
to
set
up
the
internet
network
at
the
ITF.
B
B
So
it's
a
very
impressive
engineering
effort
if
you're
into
into
network
engineering
briefly
about
the
technical
parts
of
that
alphabet
soup,
as
I
mention
the
IB,
does:
oversight
of
the
whole
internet
architecture,
impact
of
mobile
impact
of
ipv6
impact
of
general
privacy
concerns
they
tend
to
run
workshops.
They
also
do
oversight,
they
look
at
you
know
they
approve
nominated
positions,
some
of
them
the
iesg,
the
ITF
engineering
steering
group.
This
is
the
people
responsible
for
the
management
of
the
meetings
and
sorry
management
of
the
technical
groups.
They
approve.
B
You
know
who
the
area
it's
composed
of
all
the
area
directors
they
approve
what
activities
are
being
done
and
so
on.
The
IRT
F
is
similar
to
the
IETF,
but
rather
than
having
working
groups,
it
has
research
groups,
there's
a
group
art
photography,
there's
a
group
on
Human
Rights,
there's
a
group
on
general
privacy
and
then
the
IOC
as
I
said
the
legal
entity
that
hosts
all
of
these
other
activities.
B
And
you
can
type
into
the
channel
okay.
Let
me
talk
about
the
week
in
a
nutshell:
it's
easy
to
get
overwhelmed.
It's
easy
to!
You
know,
say:
oh
I,
remember
one
meeting
I
went
with
like
five
or
six
people
from
Akamai
my
employer
and
at
the
end
of
the
day,
were
serving
at
the
end
of
the
week.
We
were
all
gonna,
you
know,
walk
around
and
go
look
at
some
tourist
thing.
I
said
no
I'm
done
to
many
people.
I'm
gonna
go
off
by
myself
and
just
have
some
quiet.
It
can
happen
halfway
through.
B
B
These
are
the
individual
units,
individual
group
activities
that
are
working
on
specific
things:
TLS
public
key
for
BGP,
DNS
privacy,
quick,
a
new
kind
of
transport
that
spans
the
stack,
the
seven
layer
stack
of
cables
about
130,
total
I,
think
about
90
of
them
were
meeting
next
week.
Ten
days,
birds
of
a
feather
is
sort
of
the
first
step
to
a
working
group.
B
Someone,
you
know,
will
they'll
be
listed,
there's
a
103
attendees
list
there
are,
and
so
the
or
it'll
be
posted
in
the
area
lists
saying
oh
yeah
I'm
having
people
who
were
interested
in
looking
at
trusted
execution,
secure
zone
or
Intel
SGX
secure
zone
being
the
arm
one.
On
the
start,
all
my
examples
around
security
that
has,
after
one
or
two
baths
that
became
a
Technical
Working
Group
area
sessions.
B
This
is
where
all
of
the
security
groups
or
all
of
the
internet
groups
will
each
present
a
brief
update
on
what
happened
or
if
they're
not
haven't
met.
Yet
there's
often
a
guest
speaker,
there's
a
plenary
which
stands
for
large
group
meeting.
It's
a
Latin
word.
That's
where
all
of
those
alphabet
soup
things
you
saw
before
they
will
each
give
a
presentation
they
before
him.
They
will
share,
you,
know,
slides
and
so
on
it
typically
lasts.
You
know
one
or
two
hours,
there's
snarking
and
drinking
games.
You
know
drink
every
time.
B
B
That's
the
website
that
maintains
party
all
of
the
working
groups,
pointers
to
all
of
the
mailing
lists,
the
agendas,
the
meeting
materials
and
all
of
that
that
tends
to
be
on
Saturday
and
also
Saturday
Sunday,
is
where
there's
hackathons
people
get
together
and
work
on
early
implementations
as
a
message
level
security,
one
I
said
you
know:
first
draft
spec
out
there
is
DNS
privacy
DNS
over
TLS.
How
would
that
work?
People
with
their
own
implementations
or
working
you
know,
group
implementations
will
work
on
that.
These
two
things
have
become
very
important
to
the
ITF.
B
It's
the
second
half
of
our
key
phrase,
rough
consensus
and
running
code.
So
this
is
a
chance
for
people
to
get
together
work
on
the
code
that
they've
got
work
on
the
code
that
they're
a
member
of
and
make
progress,
because,
if
you're
debugging
something-
and
you
can't
communicate
with
the
other
side,
it's
really
great.
If
the
other
side
is
sitting
across
the
table
from
you,
you
can
register
to
join
these
on
ITF
website.
B
You
get
a
t-shirt,
you
get
lunch,
there's
presentations
and
it's
basically
at
the
plenary
what
the
best
hackathon
was.
There
are
tutorials.
Most
of
those
are
some
day.
I
went
through
those
on
slide.
Three
lunch
sessions:
social
events,
the
social
tickets
I
forget
where
it
is
this
time,
but
there'll
be
a
social
event
where
you,
you
know,
the
tickets
are
limited,
but
anyone
can
buy
them
and
buying
and
selling
them,
and
because
oh
I
can't
use
my
social
ticket.
B
Anybody
got
a
social
ticket
that
becomes
the
biggest
email
threads
on
the
during
the
IETF
attendees
list.
This
picture
by
the
way,
is
the
IETF
sisters,
sys
te
RS.
This
is
women
who
involved
in
the
ITF
I,
don't
want
to
say
it's
a
support
group,
an
affinity
group,
maybe
but
women
in
the
ITF
that
one
you
do
register
for
because
they
provide.
B
There
are
other
things
that
go
on
hold
away
meetings,
which
means
you
know
you
corner
somebody
up.
You
know
often
people
will
come
and
go.
Hey
can
I
talk
to
you
after
the
meeting
or
you
know,
as
the
meeting
is
breaking
up
hey,
can
we
go
out
and
talk
for
a
minute
about
this
point?
I
think
you
missed
this
aspect
or
I,
don't
think
you're
allowing
for
this
use
case.
That's
a
whole
way.
Quote-Unquote
meeting
you
can
see
here
a
picture
of
one.
B
People
who
had
meetings
at
the
beginning
of
the
week
and
a
bunch
of
open
issues
will
get
together
and
work
and
dot
and
in
words,
Smith
and
right
updates
to
their
drafts.
People
who
were
meeting
at
the
end
of
the
week
toward
the
end
of
the
week
will
grip
together
that
fix
all
open
issues
before
the
meeting,
so
they
can
say
here's
the
issues
were
closed
and
so
on.
There
is
an
IETF
app
finding
in
your
typical
app
store.
It
is
updated
for
every
ITF
with
the
full
agenda.
There
is
an
you
know.
B
B
We
have
paper
copies
of
the
agenda
at
the
registration
desk,
but
we're
trying
to
obviously
our
recycle
and
conserve
paper,
so
they
tend
not
to
be
as
useful
and
as
widespread
as
they
used
to
well
they're
still
useful.
They
don't
carry
last-minute
changes
but
they're
not
as
ecologically
worthwhile
yeah.
B
B
You
can
see
it's
hard
to
tell,
but
if
you
zoom
in
on
the
picture,
there's
someone
up
front
talking
he's
got
a
co-presenter
who
is
remote,
there's
a
slide
at
the
front.
The
I
tip
would
call
that
we
call
this
an
eye
chart
slide
because
there's
a
lot
of
text
slides
are
very
simple:
black
on
white,
no
company
logos
generally,
just
you
know,
lists
often
bullet
lifts.
B
You
know
split
block
diagrams,
you
know
very,
very
simple,
easy
to
produce
via
you
know,
PowerPoint
Libre,
Office
OpenOffice,
whatever
you'd
like
and
then
in
the
middle
there
you
see
let
what's
called
the
mic
line
someone's
talking
and
presenting
on.
You
know
what
their
current,
what
the
current
draft
is
saying,
and
then
people
line
up
at
the
mic
to
ask
questions
or
to
have
an
open
discussion.
This
may
be
at
the
end
of
the
presentation
where
there's
more
open
discussion,
or
they
may
be
talking
during
the
slides
to
say,
I
have
a
clarifying
question.
B
When
you
said
one
roundtrip
did
you
mean
server
to
client
client
to
server
that
kind
of
technical
clarification
question
open
discussion
would
be
well.
When
you
said
around
trip
is
that
the
average
round-trip
Ike,
because
I
think
if
you
should
take
the
worst
case,
round-trip
bla,
bla
bla,
the
sessions
are
all
streamed.
Video
streamed
on
the
internet,
they're
all
recorded
people
will
occasionally
go
back
to
the
meeting.
B
B
The
charter
of
a
working
group
describes
what
the
working
group
should
do.
Dns
op
is
about
the
operation
of
the
domain
name
system
and
it
might
have
a
few
milestones.
It
has
to
have
milestones
because
we
want
to
be
able
to
measure
progress
against
the
Charter
and
determine
if
we're
actually
meeting
it.
If
the
working
group
isn't
meeting
its
requirements
or
its
schedule,
we
can
revise
the
schedule.
That
happens
often
often
probably
almost
all
the
time,
because
we're
always
optimistic.
Oh.
B
The
spec
done
in
nine
months,
nineteen
months
it
could
be,
it's
also
used
to
bound
the
problem.
Someone
will
say:
hey
I
found
this
security
issue
about
trusting
web
certs
in
acne,
though
okay,
but
that's
not
really
an
acne
issue
go
off
and
see
this.
Other
blue
board
fits
in
the
Charter
and
it
also
relates
to
if
you
can't
define
the
problem-
and
you
can't
come
up
with
a
new
lease
initial
set
of
goals,
then
it's
not
ready
to
become
a
working
group,
yet
maybe
have
another
bath,
maybe
discuss
it.
B
B
Skip
one
no
general
meeting
read
the
documents
talk
to
people,
sleep
be
respectful,
be
tolerant,
there's
gonna
be
all
sorts
of
different
people
from
all
around
the
world.
The
IDF
is
a
global
thing.
It
can
be
an
eye-opener.
It
also
means
you
have
freedom
but
respect
other
people's.
You
know
freedoms
and
behavior.
B
Okay,
I
think
I'm
gonna
skip
a
bit
yeah
session
etiquette.
This
is
worth
no
speaking
to
the
mic
say
your
name.
Every
single
time
you
give
your
name
and
affiliation
rich
Saul's,
c'mon
people
in
the
IDF
participate
as
individuals.
We
still
say
our
company
name
blue
sheets.
You
have
to
say
your
name,
because
someone
is
recording
that
it's
important
to
know
where
ideas
come
from.
It's
important
to
understand
who
proposed
something
for.
B
For
you
know,
intellectual
property
issues,
if
you
have
patents,
don't
speak
at
the
ITF
meetings.
Understand.
What
note
well
said
is:
there's
a
jabber
channel
driver
being
XMPP
protocol
so
that
every
working
group
foo
will
have
a
jabber
room,
foo
jabber.
You
know
food
at
jabber,
gotta,
org,
there's
back-channel,
there's
trance
for
clarification.
B
There
is
a
ether
pad
which
is
a
website
collaborative
editing,
not
like
Google
Docs,
where
minutes
are
often
taken,
and
all
of
these
are
posted
after
the
meeting
and
any
technical
questions
are
coming
to
have
or
highly
accepted
the
IRT
F
since
I
am
kind
of
short
on
time.
I'll
skip
this
one
research,
one
of
the
things
they
do
is
they
have
a
networking
prize
papers
were
devoted
to
the
ITF,
are
submitted
by
anyone
who
can
submit
a
paper
I
really
like
this
paper.
B
You
know
on
TCP
round-trip
delays
and
then
they
give
the
prize
recipients
get.
You
know
free
admission
to
the
ITF
next
time
and
I
think
some
of
their
travel
expenses
lunch
talks.
Typically,
the
sponsor
will
have
a
chance
to
talk
about.
You
know.
The
main
sponsor
will
have
a
chance
to
talk
about
something
whole
sessions
on
the
area,
internet
area,
the
transport
area
and
so
on.
B
Transport
will
have
a
session
where
they
figure
out
there's
a
section
of
fort
devoted
to
new
work
and
they
figure
out
what
working
group
to
put
even
the
plenaries
is
the
whole
IETF
thing.
You
know
all
thousand
people
in
a
ballroom
sitting
down
I
mentioned
hackathons
and
code
sprint.
So
here
is
you
know.
You
see
people
working
their
small
tables
for
people
working
on
specific
areas,
people
collaborating
and
looking
over.
You
know
packet
dumps
and
what
so
on
social
events
this
one
on
the
left
was
in
the
Singapore.
B
B
There
aren't
questions
I'll
just
proceed
on
to
the
last
thing
about
resources
for
further
information
pictures.
Soon,
I
mentioned
to
the
Secretariat
or
the
RFC.
Editor
is
a
collection
of
people.
You
know
the
English
majors
in
the
group
who
know
how
to
make
subject,
verb
agreement,
work
who
know
I
understand
you
know
antecedents
and
pronouns,
and
things
like
that
I
Anna
are
the
people
who
say
things
like
DNS
goes
on
port
53
HTTP
goes
on
port
80,
TLS
HTTP
goes
on
port
443
and
so
on
and
there's
you
know,
lists
people
who
keep
those
pages.
B
What
extensions
are
necessary
or
allowed
and
TLS
the
executive
director
is
the
person
who
runs
whose
job
it
is
to
keep
track
of
all
those
things.
The
Ombuds
team
very
important,
if
you
have
any
instances
of
harrassment
or
you're,
made
to
feel
uncomfortable
contact.
The
Ombuds
team,
the
ombudsman
team.
These
are
all
longtime
ITF
participants.
We
don't
tolerate
harassment,
physical,
emotional,
mental,
any
kind.
B
We
want
to
be
a
welcoming
place
for
everybody
who
has
something
to
contribute
to
contribute
so,
and
there
is
a
specific
anti-harassment
policy,
and
if
you
see
any
of
these
people,
they'll
have
a
dot
on
their
on
their
nametag,
the
dots.
This
is
what,
in
the
upper
right,
you
see
what
the
nametag
looks
like
and
then
there
are
different
colored
dots
and
they'll
be
a
handout
or
a
sandwich
board
that
describes
what
these
are.
B
There's
a
working
group
labels
some
just
to
help
identify
you
can
feel
free
to
go
up
to
someone
and
say:
oh
you're,
on
the
the
chair
of
the
you
know,
the
bind
working
group
will
not
find
ya.
Dns
working
group
I
had
a
question
who
do
I
speak
to
about
this?
It's
to
identify
it's
not
for
pride
of
position,
it's
to
make
them
easier
to
find
during
the
idea.
B
Specific
links
on
the
tutorials
are
all
here.
There
is
a
wiki
one
of
the
most
useful
things
that
the
wiki
is
people
start
to
post
transportation,
ride-sharing
information,
social
ticket
exchange.
How
do
I
get
what's
the
best
way
to
get
to
the
you
know
from
the
airport
to
the
overflow
hotel
lots
of
times
there
are
native
natives
posting
on
these
obviously
they're
attending
the
ITF,
and
they
can
say:
oh
well,
you
can
do
the
taxi,
but
you
know
during
the
day
it's
better
to
get
a
ride-sharing
pool.
B
More
resources
there's
a
mailing
list
specifically
for
newcomers,
women
at
the
ITF
and
then
there's
other
things.
We
do
have
some
events
for
traveling
companions.
If
your
spouse
or
partner
are
coming,
there
aren't
kids,
you
know,
there's
no
daycare
or
child
care,
but
if
your
spouse
and
kids
are
coming,
there
are
often
activities
or
pointers
to
activities
that
they
can
participate
in.
B
It's
tough
to
bring
family
members
because
you
are
busy
from
you
know,
8:00
in
the
morning
to
11:00
at
night,
often
or
you
can
be-
and
it's
some
of
it's
certainly
social,
but
at
the
end
of
the
day,
your
front,
the
data
tracker,
is
the
place
where
we
have.
You
know
it's:
the
one-stop
shopping
for
all
of
the
working
groups,
all
of
the
agenda
materials,
all
the
presentations
and
so
on.
There's
a
tool
page
once
you've
written
documents
or
are
participating
in
writing
documents.
You
might
care
about
the
total
page
war.
B
Just
leave
that
for
now
remote
participation,
here's
a
neat
echo
too!
So
actually
most
of
them
are
online.
So
these
are
the
folks
who
handle
all
of
the
video
and
audio,
including
this
one,
I
think
I.
Should
wrap
up
there's
the
network,
there
are
ipv4,
ipv6,
NAT,
there's
a
terminal
room,
it
doesn't
have
terminals,
it
has
a
printer.
So
if
on
Thursday
night
you
need
to
put
your
boarding
pass
there,
you
go
the
name
and
password
for
those
that
record
those
networks
that
require
it
or
I
tf-idf.
B
A
B
Itf
jabber,
as
I
said,
there's
a
chatroom
for
basically
every
single
working
group.
One
of
the
things
that
will
happen
at
the
beginning
of
the
session
is
we'll
look,
take
minutes
and
someone
to
need
the
jabber
scribe.
The
jabber
scribe
is
a
person
who
handles
requests
from
remote
participants
to
say
something
at
the
mic
enjoy
yourself,
it's
a
lot
of
fun.