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CELLAR meeting session at IETF
2023/04/25 1900
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting//proceedings/
A
B
C
No
there's
there's
no
notes,
maybe
Michael
and
then
I
forgot
about
this
meeting.
A
Looks
like
he
forgot
Maybe
on
this
sent
an
email
on
the
21st
Michael.
A
B
My
apologies
for
running
a
minute
late
and
I'm
still
getting
slightly
organized,
but
I
am
here
and
Michael
will
probably
not
be
with
us
today.
He
has
a
a
fairly
severe
migraine.
So
just
let
me
open
up
everything
that
I
need
to
open
up
and
I
will
see.
I
will
see
how
I
can
do
here.
B
B
Steve
am
I
the
only
one,
that's
having
trouble
hearing
you.
D
B
Ouch
I
will
be,
I
will
be
right
back
on
a
couple
of
things
now.
D
D
B
I
thought
that
I
thought
that
we
had
the
agenda
in
here
already
and
I,
don't
see
that
we
do
and
I
know
how
to
make
that
happen.
Real
quick,
I
think.
B
Okay,
cool,
okay,
now
now
I'm.
Actually
here
my
apologies
and
is
everybody
in
the
headstock,
where
I
am
where
we
could
be
putting
in
attending
names
and
stuff.
B
D
B
B
Okay
and
I'm
sharing
a
screen
here.
B
B
Okay,
excellent,
so,
okay
as
again,
my
apologies
for
us
being
off
in
a
very
leisurely
Pace
here,
so.
B
Welcome
to
our
second
meeting
in
April,
because
we
had
our
March
meeting
very
early
in
April,
and
we
do
the
administrivia
thing
to
say
basically
that
that
we
are
having
an
ietf
meeting
and
that
they
don't
well.
Notification
applies
to
our
discussion
and
then
the
next
thing
we
can
reasonably
be
doing
is
accepting
the
meeting
minutes
from
our
last
meeting.
B
C
B
Okay,
excellent,
let's
see
I
believe.
B
Okay,
so
if
I'm
looking
at
our
working
group
document
updates
the
truth,
the
two
things
that
are
on
here,
as
not
just
ID
exists,
are
that
we
are
waiting
for
a
write-up
from
vad
on
matroska-16
and
We've
submitted
Flack
8
to
the
to
the
isg
for
publication.
So
the
next
thing
we
should
be
getting.
There
is
80
evaluation
back
from
Murray
I
talked
to
him
this
morning,
and
he
is,
he
is
on
vacation
through
the
end
of
the
month.
B
So
that's
why
here
we
have
not
gotten
any
feedback
from
him
on
the
Flack
document
yet
and
just
wanted
to.
Let
him
know
that
so
I
I,
don't
think
the
next
steps
change
in
our
minutes
from
from
matroska.
B
Is
there
anything
that
we
need
to
talk
about
on?
This
call
matroska
is
if
I
was
looking
at
this.
B
B
I'm
looking
here,
if
you
guys,
if
you
guys,
can
see
that
yes,
okay,
okay,
so
so
no
updates
on
these.
Since
our
last
call,
you
know.
B
B
Okay
and
see
for
Flack
we're
still
talking
dash
dash
08
right.
C
Yes,
there's
no
new
updates.
The
only
change
we've
had
in
GitHub
since
Dash
08
is
that
I
added
the
pull
request
with
the
additions
from
the
media
type
review.
Okay
and
it's.
B
C
Only
two
lines
added
and
a
few
lines
changed,
but
didn't
seem
like
enough
to
Warrant
a
new
version
and
you.
B
B
B
D
D
A
B
Cool
and
no.
B
Until
we
get
the
ad
evaluation
comments,.
B
We
yeah
we
can
submit
as
many
updates
in
the
data
tracker
as
we
want
within
limits
and
the
limits
are
actually
pretty
wide,
but
it
would
be
better
if
it
would
be
better
if
we
just
waited
until
there's
a
reason.
You
know
if
we
have
more
than
just
like
two
lines
of
of
changes
for
a
document.
That's
already
left
the
working
group.
B
Wait
till
somebody
wait
till
we
get
a
bunch
of
stuff
back
and
then
we'll
say
here
here
are
all
the
changes,
so
everyone
who's
watching
the
document
go
through
the
publication
process
knows
that
now
it's
time
to
look
at
more
than
one
change.
Does
that
make
sense?
Yes,.
C
D
B
I
always
actually
I
actually
came
out
of
a
lot
of
Yokohama,
really
you're.
Really
good
and
I
mean
you
know,
that's
a
nice
long
flight
for
me
and
everything-
and
you
know
I'm
older
than
most
of
you
all-
are
and
I
got
back
here
and
had
covid-19
so
that
that
shortened
that
shortened
my
three
weeks
also
but
I'm
doing
much
better
now
and.
B
Oh,
oh
yeah,
oh
yeah!
Well,
what.
D
B
So
it's
what
Omicron,
X
BB
1.5
I
think
is
the
one
that's
that's
growing,
but
most
of
what
they
had
in
in
in
Japan
was
an
earlier
of
a
crown
variant
so,
but
still
an
overcon
variant,
so
I
assume
that's
what
I
had
and
I
will
tell
you
all
if
you're
ever
wondering
if
you
have
covet
take
the
self-test
and
because
mine
got
mine,
turned
positive
and
my
wife's
turned
positive.
Also
in
about
five
minutes:
that's
the
fastest
response,
either
yes
or
no
I've
ever
gotten.
B
Yeah
and
I'm
still
getting
this
week,
I
think
it
is
or
late
last
week
they
said
in
the
U.S.
They
are
now
recommending
everybody,
my
age
to
get
another
bivalent
vaccination.
So
if
that
had
happened
three
weeks
earlier,
that
might
have
been
a
different
story
too,
but
that's
okay!
You.
B
Yeah
that
and
I
think
it
is
worth
saying
we
have
a
working
group
contains
us.
D
A
A
I
mean
the
original
RFC
plus
the
erata
and
I
also
did
the
release
as
in
GitHub
release
of
the
so.
The
text
and
HTML5
file
HTML
file
with
the
RFC
and
the
Errata
applied,
so
that
if
people
download
that
zip,
they
have
the
updating
documents
ready
to
read.
And
basically,
whenever
we
do
an
errata
I'll.
Do
the
same
I'll
put
on
top
of
that
branch
and
generate
a
new
release.
D
B
Got
that
and,
and
you
put
the
you
put
the
link
in
chat,
you
said.
A
D
B
Is
is
it
fair,
especially
especially
with
me
being
somewhat
stupid
this
month
from
covid
and
Michael
being
out
today,
if
it
is
probably
good
for
us
to
say
we'll,
we'll
put
a
quick
look
at
at
that
for
the
next
next
meeting
right.
A
D
D
B
I,
don't
so
and
I'll
just
say
this:
there
are,
there
are
people,
you
know,
so
you
guys
not.
The
accounting
expensor
have
been
using
GitHub
for
a
while
and
that's
pretty
awesome,
and
there
are.
There
are
other
ietf
working
groups
that
have
been
using
GitHub,
maybe
not
as
long
as
seller
has
but
pretty
intensely.
B
B
So
but
I
don't
think
that
there
I
don't
think
the
groups
that
I
have
I,
don't
think
the
groups
that
I'm
thinking
of
right
now,
like
quick,
have
done
anything
special.
It
basically
said
we're
just
not
gonna.
You
know,
do
updates
to
the
to
the
GitHub
reflecting
reflecting
stuff
like
that.
So.
B
And
sorry,
and
so
we
my
point,
is
that
we're
really
kind
of
leading
the
pack
at
the
ietf
about
this.
So
that's
kind
of
cool.
B
C
So
there's
an
I
calendar
file
which
contains
all
planned
meetings
for
seller,
and
it's
in
that
works
for
all
working
groups.
I
I
think
right,
but
it
has
been
broken
for
I.
Think
since
last
week,
I
saw
some
mail
on
the
announce
IDF
announced
list
that
they
updated
some
database
or
something,
and
it
seems
that,
since
that
updates
the
times,
are
wrong,
something
with
time
zones
and
stuff.
B
B
I
I
actually
noticed
that
earlier
this
morning,
it
it
did
it
looked
to
me
like
it
looked
to
me
like
the
timings
are,
were
correct
for
like
the
next
month,
Yo,
which
I
I
you
know,
I
I
didn't
I,
didn't
check
every
month
for
the
rest
of
the
year,
but
just
to
yeah
I'll
go
ahead
and
report
that
and
look
at
it
more
closely.
Now
so
yeah.
C
Mike,
my
question
would
have
been
where
should
I
report
this,
because
I
have
checked
and
it
seems
that
all
dates
are
old.
But,
strangely
enough,
when
you
look
in
the
the
data
tracker
itself,
the
dates
are
correct.
It's
just
at
the
iCal
file
doesn't
work
correctly.
So.
C
B
B
I,
look
yes,
I
looked
at
that,
and
so
I've
got
two
meetings
on
my
calendar
today.
One
of
them
is
now,
and
one
of
them
is
in
like
eight
hours,
so
I
was
gonna.
Try
to
chase
that
down
as
soon
as
we
got
finished
with
the
first
meeting.
C
B
I,
don't
know
how
many
other
working
groups
have
their
the
debt
tracker
and
everything
goes
along
with
those
data.
Tracker
does
understand
what
time
zones
are,
but
I,
don't
I,
don't
know
how
many
working
groups
are
homing
someplace
else
you
know
basically,
but
but
like
I
said
I
I
know
who
to
talk
to
about
that.
So
I
will
I
will
say
that
and
report
back
thanks.
B
That
is
my
pleasure
and
thank
you
for
saying
that,
because
I
wasn't
I
I
saw
I
saw
that
there
was
a
problem.
I
was
still
looking
around
to
make
sure
where
the
where
the
I
was
looking
around
I
was
looking
around
trying
to
see
where
the.
B
Silly,
where.
D
C
B
I
think
I
can
give
you
guys
27
minutes
back
which,
if
you
were
working
on
other
stuff,
until
I
managed
to
get
logged
in,
is
actually
close
to
30..
So,
thank
you
all
for
being
here
and
we
will.
We
will
continue.
We
will
keep
on
keeping
on.
B
Oh
absolutely
I
told
you
to
take
care
of
himself
so
that
the
only
part
that
the
only
problem
he
will
have
giving
him
headaches
is
me
not
migraine.
B
B
Sent
he
was
sending
me
pictures
of
his
house
after
the
snowstorm,
so
you
know
when
was
that,
but
I
mean
they
were.
B
They
were
amazing,
so
yeah
I
mean
like
like
feet
different,
you
know
so,
but
yeah
so
I
think
you
I
think
all
I
think
all
of
his
I
think
all
of
his
stuff
is
has
melted
now,
but
it
was
all
pretty.
It
was
all
pretty
interesting.
B
So
I
don't
well
I,
don't
know
what
weather
is
like
for
you
all
right
now,
but
please
say.
B
B
So
could
you
say
it
was
quite
something
if
I,
if
I
find
pictures
I'll
send
them
I'll,
send
the
link
to
them
be
cool.
Well,
thank
you
all
very
much.