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From YouTube: IETF-TOOLS-20230314-1800
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TOOLS meeting session at IETF
2023/03/14 1800
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting//proceedings/
A
A
Reviewed
the
notes,
if
you
have
any
please
review
them
and
if
you
have
any
agenda
bashes.
Well,
that's
the
first
question
I'll
ask
here
in
a
moment
if
you
can
share
video,
we
want
this
to
be
a
meeting
around
the
table,
but
do
remember
that
the
meeting
is
being
recorded
and
will
appear
on
YouTube.
A
C
A
A
A
But
the
real
answer
is
that
it's
really
time
to
go
through
the
effort
to
move
www.ietf.org
out
of
Apache,
NT,
nginx
and
I
will
be
putting
together
a
plan
team
see
if
we
can
do
that
as
we're
working
our
way
up
to
116
or
if
it
will
be
a
post,
116
activity.
A
The
Glens
current
hypothesis
is
that
we
have
taken
the
mod
proxy
part
of
Apache
2
beyond
what
it
is
capable
of
doing
with
the
way
we
have
the
www.ietf.org
site,
architected,
where
we
are
slicing
out
chunks
of
the
namespace
to
feed
through
mod
proxy
versus
serving
things
that
a
lot
of
the
rest
of
the
URL
spaced
directly
off
disk
or
through
other
applications.
A
A
If
someone
could
take
volunteer
to
watch
the
notes
for
me,
I
noticed
from
the
last
call
that
there
were
some
people
contributing
on
the
notes.
My
windowing
I
can't
conveniently
get
the
notes
in
in
addition
to
looking
at
the
face,
if
there's
something
that
needs
to
be
brought
to
the
verbal
part
of
the
conversation
from
the
notes
jump
in
and
do
that,
could
somebody
please
explicitly
volunteer
to
do
that
for
me
now.
A
A
I
would
propose
that
we
stop
it
and
work
with
the
people
that
really
want
to
use
these
things
on
getting
them
to
use
a
more
modern
ask
for
the
things
that
they're
really
interested
in
and
if
they're
really
interested
in
trying
to
get
everything
convinced
them
that
they
get
everything.
Once
and
not
over
and
over
and
over,
and
then
incrementally
use
apis
to
get
the
additional
things
that
they
need.
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A
A
A
All
Right
Moving
On
an
update
on
our
work
to
move
our
primary
DNS
Services
into
cloudflare.
A
We
identified
that
we
needed
to
move
our
registrars
away
from
the
current
registrars
first,
so
that
we
could
more
easily
take
advantage
of
the
DNS
sec
capabilities
that
cloudflare
offers.
A
A
We're
just
waiting
for
the
removal
of
DNS
SEC
on
that
particular
Zone
to
expire
through
cash
before
we
initiate.
The
transfer
will
be
going
through
this
with
the
other
zones,
while
we
might
be
getting
them
ready
to
move
I,
don't
plan
to
move
them,
starting
from
now
until
after
we
get
past
116
so
that
we
don't
disrupt
the
the
meeting
with
this
activity.
So
we'll
pick
this
back
up
right
after
116.
A
A
I
will
make
a
a
shout
out
to
Nick
here,
he's
built
a
very
nice
set
of
tooling
using
GitHub
actions
and
the
apis
at
cloudflare
to
ensure
that
we
have
a
traceable.
A
A
That
happened
pretty
much
almost
without
incident.
It
took
a
little
bit
longer
than
we
intended
and
I
was
surprised
that
there
were
some
pages
that
weren't
already
in
cloudflare's
Cache
that
were
500
and
during
the
few
tens
of
minutes
that
we
were
doing
this
work
last
week.
A
A
I
will
be
testing
the
data
tracker
postgres
transition
on
ietfa
later
today
or
tomorrow.
It's
likely
to
fall
in
tomorrow
at
this
point
that
will
give
us
a
finer
estimate
on
what
our
actual
downtime
will
be
on
April
11th
when
we
actually
make
the
production
move.
A
I
still
expect
this
to
be
in
the
large
tens
of
minutes.
Time
frame
we
may
be
out
for
up
my
my
conservative
thumbnail
says
it.
Would
that
will
be
done
within
an
hour
and.
D
A
Next
item
is
the
RPC
tools
refresh
project.
Everyone
should
have
seen
the
note
that
Jay
sent
to
the
tools
discuss
list
about
the
plan
that
we
have
for
implementation,
Gene
and
I
have
started
on
building
out
user
stories.
We
plan
to
have
many
discussions,
while
we
are
in
Yokohama
with
members
of
the
community
members
of
the
RPC
pushing
to
make
sure
that
we're
going
to
as
we're
making
the
transition
of
these
toolings,
we
build
the
right
thing,
shared
understanding,
a
good
idea
of
where
we're
going,
and
why
is
the
goal
of
of
these
conversations.
A
I
expect
to
begin
implementation
of
the
parts
that
we
have
confidence
that
everybody
agrees
on
what
needs
to
be
done
very
soon
after
1
16.,
but
after
we
do
the
postgres
and
Django
for
transition,
because
the
new
things
that
are
going
to
be
coming
into
the
data
tracker,
we
definitely
want
to
build
on
scaffolding.
That
is
only
going
to
be
available
to
us
once
we're
on
Django
4..
A
So
Alexa,
just
as
a
an
early
introduction
and
a
teaser
for
some
of
the
Alexis
sorry
teaser
for
some
of
the
conversations
that
we're
going
to
be
having
is
you
know
where
the
Errata
data
lives,
so
in
the
conversations
that
Gene
and
I
have
been
having?
It
seems
to
us
at
the
moment
to
me
in
particular,
but
I
think
that
conversations
need
to
to.
A
A
A
It
is
in
a
draft
form
at
the
moment,
you'll
note
in
particular
that
it
does
not
yet
reflect
the
our
PC
tooling
refresh,
but
it
will
soon
I
wanted
to
get
feedback
on
this
call
on
about
whether
or
not
this
is
a
useful
and
effective
way
to
try
to
communicate
at
a
high
level
what
the
tools
team
is
going
to
be
doing
over
the
next
several
ITF
Cycles
to
the
people
who
are
not
on
the
tools
team
and
the
people
who
are
not
paying
close
attention
to
calls
like
this
one.
A
A
C
I,
like
it,
it
seems
reasonable.
I've
seen
you
know,
lots
of
other
GitHub
projects
use
it.
So
it
seems.
Okay,
probably
is
worthwhile
because
it's
sheep
relatively
cheap
to
do
compared
to
other
forecasting
and
planning
things
and
hey.
Do
you
want
to
present
the
slide
at
the
working
group
chairs
lunch?
A
B
So
it
is
good
for
conveying
very
big
tasks
at
hand
of
having
it
filled
out
would
be
nice,
for
instance,
clicking
some
of
these
there's
no
description,
so
somebody
unfamiliar
with
these
items
might
scratch
their
head
at
what
these
are
and
is
there
significance
in
where
they
are
listed
within
a
column?
Perhaps
a
small
read
me
all
right.
A
A
All
right
we're
now
down
to
the
RFI
section,
so
we'll
start
going
a
little
more
quickly,
but
if
there
is
something
that
needs
to
be
discussed
raise
a
flag,
let
me
know
for
the
infrastructure
strategy.
We
did
get
responses
to
the
RFI.
A
team's
been
formed
to
digest
those
responses
and
turn
them
into
action
for
the
rfps
we
expect
to
meet
this
week.
A
As
we
discussed
at
the
last
meeting,
we
simplified
the
number
of
addresses
used
to
report
May
or
issues
to
the
tools
team
as
to
help
the
tools
team,
we're
in
the
process
of
reconfiguring
places
like
the
footer
and
the
data
tracker
to
point
to
the
new
tools,
help
Alias.
Let
the
tools
help
Alias
is
in
place
already.
A
E
E
Yep,
okay,
yep
just
this
is
a
little
a
little
bit
of
a
late
ad.
So
let
me
know
if
you
have
any
questions
but
we'll
be
taking
feedback
in
expected
review
and
then
further
develop
it
or
not.
After
160.
A
A
Greg
sent
a
note
t
the
relevant
lists
that
we
are
at
the
end
of
the
track:
Wiki
migration
and
a
few
other
Wiki
Technologies
migrations
into
wiki.js.
The
track,
in
particular,
is
winding
down.
I
expect
to
do
the
final
Archive
of
the
track
wikis
tomorrow.
A
That
will
be
tucked
away,
not
published
something
that
if
we
have
a
need
to
go
back
and
look
at
somebody
on
staff
can
the
with
the
wikis
the
the
information
in
wiki.js
is
is
now
what
people
should
be
looking
at.
E
Data
tracker
Robert
go
ahead.
Yeah
I
just
wanted
a
quick
update
on
that
one.
So
far,
we've
heard
from
one
working
group
chair
that
they
still
need
some
work
on
their
transition.
So
I,
don't
think
that'll
stop
anything
else,
that's
going
on,
but
we
are
working
with
them,
but
otherwise
we
haven't
heard
any
concerns
about
the
transition
plan.
E
Right
they're
concerned
about
the
content,
move
they're
not
concerned
about
the
platform
move
for
them,
but
I
think
we'll
have
a
result.
This
week.
A
Tracker
things
are
moving
quite
rapidly,
they're
moving.
As
expected,
you
can
track
what's
changed
with
the
links
that
I've
put
into
the
notes.
I
expect
to
do
another
release
this
week.
Then
the
next
release
after
that
will
probably
be
what
happens
on
April
11th.
E
D
D
For
auto
tools,
there
are
several
map
fixes
and
improvements,
especially
on
ID
Define,
RFC
div.
There
are
some
cases
where
IDT,
fixed
slower,
so
I
have
set
up
timeouts
now
to
fall
back
to
RFC.
Deep
ID
is
taking
long
time
to
give
back
results
to
someone
right
now.
It's
I
have
20
seconds
of
timeout,
so
it's
taking
too
long,
then
it's
our
IDE
fill
fall
back
to
our
rcd.
D
We
haven't
cut,
we
have
released
a
new
release
since
last
call.
There
are
a
few
changes
on
the
pipeline.
D
D
D
A
I
guess
I
have
a
couple
points
I'd
like
to
add.
The
XML
service
has
failed
a
couple
of
times
as
we
were.
E
A
The
pressure
that,
as
we
were,
coming
up
on
the
draft
submission
deadline,
we
are
investigating
one
and
we'll
be
addressing
the
failure
so
that
we
don't
so
it
doesn't
recur.
A
For
xmlrc
I
have
a
question
for
the
RPC
I
guess,
as
kasar
mentioned,
he's
not
planning
on
cutting
the
release,
it
would
have
this
nodo
mask
font
in
it
until
after
116..
A
A
B
D
A
All
right
so
I
don't
see
Ryan
on
the
call
I
think.
Let
me
doubles,
yeah
double
check,
yeah
I,
don't
see
Ryan
do
we
know
who
un
Duke
is.
A
A
Eric
is
also
not
available.
I'll
ask
him
to
send
an
update
on
what's
happening
in
Yin
catalog
separately
off
the
top
of
my
head.
The
activity
that
I've
seen
on
the
Yang
catalog
project
for
the
last
month
has
focused
on
the
the
primary
user
interface,
particularly
around
search
and
singing
the
correct
things
about
whether
or
not
the
data
that's
being
described
on
a
given
output
page
is
from
a
Ying
module
that
has
finished
going
through
a
process
that
makes
it
a
an
official
thing
you're
using
the
word
ratified.
It
makes
me
very
nervous.
A
I,
don't
know
that
ratified
is
a
great
word,
given
the
intersection
with
the
ietf
community,
but
the
that's
where
the
the
focus
have
ever
has
has
been
as
best
I
can
see
it.
The.
A
I
have
to
add
is
a
related
to
the
IMAP
user,
remapping
topic
that
we
have
been
tracking.
There
has
not
been
progress
on
remapping
users,
but
there
has
been
progress
on
changing
the
way
we
authenticate
users
that
will
be
leveraged
eventually,
in
the
usually
remapping
concept,
we
have
a
an
API
that
we
created
over
the
weekend.
A
Alexi
hasn't
had
a
chance
to
review
it
yet,
but
it's
in
his
hands
now
that
will
move
the
authorization
process
for
the
IMAP
server
into
something
that's
hitting
an
API
instead
of
something
that
is
using
data
record
code
directly
and
and
speaking
directly
into
its
database,
which
is
what
is
currently
deployed
so.
A
And
it
brings
us
to
open
discussion
in
any
other
business.
Is
there
anything
that
we
haven't
talked
about
that
we
need
to
talk
about
before
we
get
to
this
next
meeting
now.