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From YouTube: COINRG Interim Meeting, 2019-10-08
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COINRG Interim Meeting, 2019-10-08
A
Want
to
listen
to
it
later
so
in
terms
of
administrivia,
we
have
or
precede
the
data
tracker
the
gits
which
I
should
be
working
more
on,
but
obviously
we
want
to
use
to
replace
the
wiki.
When
reason,
for
example,
is
the
recording
of
today
it
will
be
way
too
big
to
be
uploaded
on
the
wiki,
and
our
mailing
list
is
still
the
same.
We
got
a
number
of
new
people
on
the
list
and
I
think
we
spent
activity
which
was
fun.
A
That's
the
thing.
By
the
way
we
have
to
show
the
note.
Well,
this
is
an
interim
meeting,
but
we
are
essentially
officially
recorded.
So
we
have
to
show
the
note
well
and
that
if
anybody
talks
and
have
things
like
I,
you
know
I
PR
I'll
be
very
aware
of
it
and
obviously
there's
all
the
things
about
procedures
and
harassment
and
everything
which
is
important
so
and
even
in
Jeffrey.
You
can
cut
me
any
time,
please.
So,
what's
our
status,
the
Charter
is
now
pretty
stable.
A
One
of
the
big
things
that
we
did
at
in
Montreal
was
to
have
this
discussion
about
what
we
needed
to
change.
Actually,
there
was
not
that
many
changes
so
right
now
it's
pretty
stable
and
we
do
not
intend
any
changes
before
IETF
106
Colin,
who
is
on
the
call,
told
me
that
the
throttling
I
will
be
on
Monday,
November
18,
so
actually
there's
a
large
chance
that
this
will
happen
before
a
meeting
unless
we
have
a
very
early
meeting
on
the
Monday,
which
is
a
short
probability,
but
I
think
we
are
in
good
shape.
A
Yeah
I
will
it
will
happen
before
the
meeting?
So
that's
why
I'm
saying
it's
like,
so
maybe
we
could
have
good
news
at
the
meeting.
I
think
we're
I
think
we're
in
good
shape.
It
says
this
is
you
know
this
is
me
evaluating
or
old
work,
but
anyway,
I
think
we
had
steady
progress.
I
think
that
the
topic
is
again
we're
supposed
to
be
a
research
group
and
the
topic
is
appearing
in
a
large
number
of
conferences
and
academic
venues
about
everywhere,
ourselves.
A
That
will
have
an
impact
on
the
type
of
work
that
we
could
include
actually
and
I
intend
in
the
conference's.
That
I
will
be
involved
with
to
essentially
evangelize
this
group
and
make
sure
people
are
allowed
or
not
allowed
or
allowed.
And
yes,
no
doubt
actually
are
aware
of.
What's
going
on
losing
my
English,
so
we're
going
to
have
new
topics
after
106
we
had
already
the
video
that
was
presented
in
Montreal
remotely
I.
A
A
The
state
of
the
art
is
still
again
is
essentially
what
Dirk
is
doing
and
there's
a
lot
of
again
related
activity
everywhere
that
Dirk's
involved
with
and
there's
even
some
work
now
that
his
plan
for
the
H
2020
of
the
European
Union,
so
everybody
is
a
little
bit
into
that
and
I
would
say
and
I
know
that
I
ek
is
I
would
want
a
psyche.
Anyway.
Is
alcohol
and
there's
an
awful
lot
of
work
being
done
right
now
in
industrial
with
some
kind
of
computing
in
the
network?
A
So
this
is
actually
very
nice
and
I
hope
that
we're
going
to
have
more
documents
on
this
and
actually
actually
I,
think
Alex.
Bassy
is
not
on
the
call
to
thing
at
a
conflict,
but
I
think
we're
going
to
have
another
draft
of
computing
in
the
network
in
large
next-generation
agricultural
networks,
so
April
2020.
So
again,
this
is
actually
going
to
go
into
this.
This
is
Vancouver,
so
this
will
be
there
again.
A
The
Alex
from
ICN
are
going
to
help
me
on
this
one
and
there's
also
interest
right
now
in
MIT
Media
Lab
about
this
idea
of
distributing
computing
for
augmented
and
distributed
reality,
the
ecosystem
and
dependency
we
already
have
that
and
I
know.
This
is
something
that
Eve
has
a
lot
of
interest
in
and
okay.
So,
mr.
A
:,
you
should
know
that
I
hope
you
see
that
here.
It's
not
just
us
doing
the
work.
I
think
what's
great
right
now
is
there's
an
awful
lot
of
people.
We
started
things
and
they
come
in
so
I
think
it
shows
us
a
lot
of
interest
actually
on
the
ecosystem,
redundancy
and
also
from
the
architecture
I
want
to
touch
base
with
Noah
Zimmerman
at
Cambridge,
because
she
had
a
number
of
great
ideas.
A
She
doesn't
seem
to
have
a
lot
of
cycles
to
write,
drops,
but
I'm
really
thinking
of
how
we
could
make
sure
that
she
could
be
more
involved
into
this,
especially
also
that
she's
involved
in
a
dag
school
community
and
a
lot
of
other
prestigious
places,
including
Cambridge,
and
so
that's
actually
and
then
I
think
for
for
next
year.
So
it's
a
year
from
now,
we
want
to
then
focus,
maybe
a
little
bit
more
and
I.
A
Also
trying
to
define
you
know,
what's
going
on
in
this
programmable
data
plane.
Of
course
it's
a
p4
for
the
moment
and
I
think
this
is
something
that
I
would
like
to
have
feedback
either
today
or
on
the
list
from
the
people
are
participating.
So
right
now
the
hackathon
is
about
p4,
because
how
the
way
we
started
it,
but
p4
is
not
the
only
way
to
do
computing
in
the
networks
or
people
have
other
ideas.
A
I
would
mind
to
still
calling
it
a
or
white
I,
say:
I
I
think
there
shouldn't
be
any
problem
and
for
the
moment,
still
calling
it
p4,
but
eventually
at
one
point,
just
calling
it
computing
in
the
network
and
see
what
else
we
can
do
and
I
know
that
Eve
I'm
going
to
talk
to
you
that
for
you
on
this
but
I,
and
then
you
can
talk
when
we
talk
about
the
hackathon,
but
he
does.
You
know
this.
A
This
idea
that,
yes,
we
should
have
a
a
common
project
for
the
group
to
do
in
this
hackathon
and
I
think
that's
by
next
year.
We
should
be
like
really
well
into
defining
what's
happening,
especially
like
I
said:
there's
a
number
of
research
projects
going
around.
That
could
be
like
the
basis
for
some
of
this
implementation.
A
Been
pushing
them
in
is
I
belong
in.
My
in
my
living
room
right
now
sounds
of
pushing
I'm
talking
to
myself,
ok,
so
the
meeting
next
month,
so
we
requested
it
and
I
think
I
said
it
may
be
our
first
official
meeting,
which
could
be
cool,
and
so
the
important
date
for
everyone
on
the
call
is
that
by
the
fourth
of
November,
all
the
drafts
should
be
there
and
even
yeah
I
would
say
for
people
who
make
reviews
of
their
drafts.
Usually
this
is
this
can
be
either
a
major
job
or
a
smaller
job.
A
A
A
Aki-Chan,
okay,
so
this
is
going
on.
Actually
it
seems
that
we
were
very
successful
last
time.
I
hadn't
really
realized
that,
because
I
had
never
done
one,
so
we're
going
to
have
it
again.
This
time,
however,
compared
to
Montreal,
where
we
had
a
company
that
essentially
supported
us,
it's
not
going
to
be
as
good
in
in
Singapore,
so
the
plan
is
or-
and
please
again
tell
me
I'm
wrong.
So
getting
you
participants.
A
We
were
very
lucky
in
Montreal
that
when
we
actually
put
up
four
sign
saying
you
know
we're
going
to
be
for
programming
in
the
network,
we
actually
ended
up
having
people
who
were
there
to
participate
in
other
akatosh
who
were
very
interested
by
this
and
joined
us.
So
getting
new
participants
is
a
good
thing
and
getting
new
participants
before
the
meeting
is
even
a
better
thing.
So,
for
example,
in
my
class
in
at
Nanyang,
University
I've
actually
asked
some
of
the
students
to
come
on
the
Saturday.
A
So
the
my
class
is
on
the
Friday
all
day,
we're
not
going
to
do
p4,
but
we're
going
to
mention
it's
innovation
and
networking.
So
we're
going
to
mention
computing,
a
network
and
I
told
them
ahead
of
time
that
if
they
wanted
to
participate,
it's
it's
free,
so
I
hope
some
of
them
are
going
to
come.
This
will
mean
that
they're
going
to
be
new,
so
I
will
have
all
the
tools
that
we
installed
in
Montreal
installed
and
help
people
installing
them.
A
I
am
NOT
again
IP
4
programmer,
but
I
know
how
to
use
the
tool,
however,
and
I
see
a
mill
on
the
list
on
the
on
the
list
of
people
of
here
for
the
people
who
were
there
in
Montreal
the
second
day
Montreal,
we
had
started
working
on
data
filtering
and
the
project
was
very
small.
It
was
just
to
see
if
we
could
identify
from
a
header
a
certain
packet
and
based
on
this
identification
do
something
so
we
send
the
packet
to
a
different
place.
Either
we
change
the
header
of
that
packet.
A
You
know
the
basic
stuff
you
can
do
in
p4
and
that's
also
relates
to
a
fairly
known
architecture
and
computing
network,
which
called
net
gas.
Where,
actually
you
do
that,
and
then
you
send
packets,
that
you
change
the
destination
to
another
processor
and
most
of
the
time
it's
a
GPU.
So
this
is
I
would
say
if
we
were
going
to
build
a
larger
set
of
tools
for
people
who
do
computing
and
network.
This
one
is
fairly
basic
and
it
has
a
lot
of
value
in
both
industrial
networks
and
video
distribution.
A
A
It's
also
it's
very
interesting
us
triol
networks
to
identify
packets
that
have
interest
and
interest
and
if
I'm,
working
on
esters
here
it
really
almost
in
an
IC
anyway.
So
if
I'm,
an
industrial
network
I'm
interested
to
know
which
packets
represent
an
alarm
which
packets
represent
just
the
status
of
a
machine
or
the
status
of
a
process,
then
I
want
to
be
able
to
filter
these
fairly
fairly
early
in
the
networking
chain.
A
I
would
call
it
especially
if
it's
an
alarm
so
when
things
go,
bad
I
want
to
see
that
really
now
so
the
first
device
that
these
packets
hit
or
that
the
information
hits
I
want
to
be
able
to
really
filter
out.
What
is
I
would
say,
just
you
know,
I'm
doing
fine
and
things
are
moving
clearly
in
the
way
they're
supposed
to
be.
Oh,
my
god,
some
machine
is
failing,
so
this
is
actually
in
an
application
for,
for
that
data
filtering
the
other
one
is
in
video
distribution.
A
Obviously,
where
you
know
it
actually
can
see
what
type
of
video
it
is
with
destination.
It
is
the
type
of
content
that
this
video
carries,
and
this
has
a
lot
of
interest
like
the
XR
draft
that
I
did,
but
also
I,
don't
know
if
there's
anybody
from
novi
flow
at
the
university
Australia
they're
working
with,
but
this
also
has
a
lot
of
value
in
video
distribution,
so
Eve,
while
you
were
in
your
sabbatical,
lovely
sabbatical,
sabbatical
recently,
I
hope
you
had
the
lovely
weather
we
had
here
and
I
I
started.
A
Essentially,
thinking
about
that
and
that's
why
I
kept
this
data
filtering
for
the
hackathon,
because
I
think
this
is
the
basis
for
these
one
or
two
bigger
projects
that
you
were
hinting
at
and
again
for
the
moment
it
is
going
to
be
p4,
but
something
that
we
can
all
talk
about
at
the
at
the
hackathon
and
that
we
can
talk
at
a
meeting
when
we
do
the
hackathon
follow-up.
Is
that
what
we
are
going
to
have
this?
This
may
be,
let's
assume,
a
bunch
of
p4
basic
libraries
at
one
point.
A
17
but
I,
it
is
something
that
we
can
keep
in
the
background
again
we're
not
a
commercial.
You
know
commercial
software.
People
we're
not
even
you
know
we're
not
doing
a
standard
way
of
doing
anything,
but
for
people
doing
research,
especially
in
the
field.
That's
pretty
new.
It's
always
fun
that
you
can
come.
You
can
go
somewhere
and
download
a
few
libraries
that
will
help
you
and
I
think
right
now,
if
we
look
at
applications
that
do
have
this,
this
vision
of
the
edge
core
continuum,
industrial
networks
and
video
distribution
are
kind
of
it.
D
Actually
I
I
will
also
I
will
also
say
that
the
ecosystem
draught,
which
is
at
the
moment,
entitled
something
along
the
lines
of
edged
edge,
dated
discovery
but
which
follows
on
the
heel
of
presentations,
both
in
the
very
first
boss,
plane
meeting
and
the
icy
NRG.
The
focus
there
was
on,
in
fact
a
use
case.
We
called
ubiquitous
and
we
continue
to
call
ubiquitous
witness,
which
is
video
driven
as
well.
D
So
it
falls
in
quite
nicely
with
the
notion
that
we're
trying
to
build
up
a
library
of
capabilities
that
can
handle
video
distribution,
but
there's
the
additional
facet
to
it,
which
is
irrespective
of
whether
we
are
searching
through
video
data
or
some
other
continuous
data
stream.
We're
hoping
that
what's
what's
really
happening,
is
this
model
of
a
little
mental
model
of
that,
what's
normal,
what
is
normalcy
mean
is
some
context
versus
anomalous
behavior
and
it's
the
anomalous
behavior
that
triggers
some
kind
of
other
activity.
D
Whether
that's
filtering
you
know,
people
are
filtering
on
information
in
the
data
stream
or
packet,
headers
and
so
forth.
So
it's
this
kind
of
event-driven,
rerouting
of
packets
or
classification
of
packets,
into
different
categories
based
on
whether
whatever's
going
on
is
normal
versus
abnormal
and
I.
D
A
And-
and
you
know,
I
I'm
I'm
doing
this,
like
with
us
some
kind
of
I'm
not
completely,
not
not
really
not
related
to
my
own
interest
here,
but
I
would
say
that
some
of
the
work
I've
been
doing
in
the
past
few
months
on
establishing
a
big
AI
based
IOT
system
for
an
industrial
net.
Actually,
we've
got
high
success,
your
network.
A
This
is
exactly
what
we're
doing
we're
using
the
packet
filtering
in
and
I
would
say
some
kind
of
icing
and
based
interest
definitions
to
to
classify
packets
and
to
make
sure
that
we
accumulate
the
right
packets
at
the
right
place
so
that
things
that
need
to
be
auctioned
on
today
or
now,
not
even
today,
like
now
or
somewhere,
and
things
that
need
to
be
actioned
later,
because
they're
part
of
a
training
data
for
an
AI
system
are
done
elsewhere.
So
I
think
that
exactly
it
and
the
video
distribution
is
the
same
thing.
Some
video.
A
You
know
it
can
be
cached
locally,
because
this
is
something
that
everybody
wants
and
some
video
can
be
just
let
go
and
cache
somewhere
else,
because
this
is
a
you
know:
I'm,
the
only
person,
probably
in
my
whole
neighbor
would
watch
this
French
movies.
So
you
know
you
can
think
about
and
again
this
is
that
I
also
value
and
I
didn't
put
it
there,
but
I
think
this
has
value
also
for
all
the
AI
algorithms
that
need
valid
training
data
and
to
define
what
is
valid
training
data.
We
also
need
some
form
of
data
filtering.
A
A
So
you
know
we
have
a
little
group
that
we've
put
together
after
Montreal
that
I
haven't
really
followed
up
that
much
on,
but
had
the
people
from
Nova
flow
had
the
people
that
participated,
and
we
had
said
you
know,
maybe
we
just
want
to
use
it
as
a
as
a
seed
for
a
larger
team
but
I
think
maybe
post
Singapore
because
also
have
a
lake.
You
know
an
ongoing
effort.
A
You
know
probably
obviously
all
voluntary
right
now,
because
there's
no
budget,
but
that
you
know
we
continue
doing
this
so
that
the
libraries
continue
on
their
own.
So
this
is
something
that
we
can
talk
about.
Another
thing
to
talk
about
in
Singapore
when
there's
going
to
be
a
larger
group
of
people,
but
there's
also
something
that
we
could.
A
A
That
does
something
similar
called
Kalume
and
I'm,
just
knowing
that
companies
in
Montreal
right
now,
that's
what
I
did
for
the
hackathon
there,
but
actually
there's
other
people
elsewhere,
and
you
guys
it's
held
with
a
barefoot
acquisition
that
you
know
so
I
think
that
could
be
a
fairly
good
participant
of
people
who
could
be
interested
in
in
some
kind
of
open
source
site
set
of
libraries.
So
this
said
I
repeat:
there's
currently
no
plans
for
development
support,
I
know
Jeffery.
You
said
that
maybe
you
would
try
to
find
people
so
helpers
are
welcome.
A
People
know
about
before.
Please
get
move
forward.
It
will
step
forward
and
again,
even
if
you're,
not
a
p4
person
but
you're
interested
in
data
filtering,
and
you
would
like
to
do
it
in
another
language
friend.
You
know
just
come
forward
also
because
we
could
also
just
use
this
I
think
that
the
hackathon
right
now
as
far
as
I'm
concerned
is
almost
a
a
more
of
a
hands
down
a
community
based
pre
IETF
meeting.
A
So
it's
cool
because
everybody's
there
there's
a
lot
of
people
from
the
other
teams
that
you
never
never
get
to
see
during
the
week.
So
just
come
and
you
know
have
fun
and
they
feed
you,
which
is
not
bad.
Okay,
well,
yeah,
there's
three
meals
on
the
Saturday
and
two
of
them
understanding
and
I.
Don't
know
it
was
cool
and
I
have
to
attract
grad
students.
You
feed
them!
That's
why
I
told
my
students
in
Singapore,
you
know
you
can.
A
So
this
is
all
the
drafts
we
have
and
it's
a
grown
list
and
like
I
said,
the
only
new
thing
I
have
is
the
fact
that
the
XR
will
be
held
by
Lucia
and
Alex.
I
have
already
had
some
contacts
with
the
team
of
the
conceit
coin,
industrial
use
case
and
it's
supposed
to
help
them
a
little
bit
with
that
because
again,
I've
skied,
the
woods
I've
been
doing
in
Montreal
I
expect
a
dirt
to
and
and
your
to
update
their
drafts.
I
haven't
heard
from
dr.
A
A
He
could
not
be
here
this
morning
because
we
had
a
conflict
and
the
word
is
actually
on
the
west
coast
to
the
US,
but
he
had
a
high
conflict,
but
he
they're
still
working
on
it
and
they
intend
to
update
it
Jeffrey.
Maybe
you
can
talk
about
yours.
I
talked
about
mine
and
Eve
talked
about
you,
so
Jeffrey.
You
expect
to
have
a
nub
date
of
your
draft.
Yes,.
A
D
Like
likewise,
I
would
say
that,
for
us
we
had
done
a
extensive
update.
I
had
done
an
extensive
update
at
the
left
by
the
last
ITF
and
had,
although
I
had
a
kind
of
internal
exchange
with
all
the
authors
on
our
edge
data
discovery
direct
that
internal
discussion.
That
was
triggered
by
an
extensive
review
on
the
mailing
list
that
next
iteration
didn't
make
it
into
the
mailing
list.
So
I
think
for
starters.
We'll
do
that
and
then
we'll
make
changes
beyond
that
for
a
virgin
core.
For
this.
A
A
C
A
I
would
say
some
kind
of
document
that
we
can
upload
and,
and
again
it
could
be
just
maybe
that's
another
thing:
I
talked
I
thought
I
thought
about.
You
know
it
could
just
be
okay,
send
us
your
latest
publication
and
I'm
going
to
add
it
to
the
list
of
documentation
just
to
say,
okay,
so
this
is
people
who
are
working
with
us.
This
is
people
who
are
on
ER
on
our
mailing
list.
A
This
is
the
type
of
work
they
do
and
if
we
want
to
have
a
trap
to
have
an
informational
RFC
on
you
know
the
use
of
in
in
network
computing
for
like,
if
I
think
about
the
video
when
to
improve
resolution
or
actually
the
transmission
of
different
levels
of
resolution
in
an
image.
Well,
let's
help
them
do
that,
so
that
the
work
again
I
I
have
the
impression
and
I
think
about
what
what's
happening.
A
Okay,
I,
don't
want
to
bad-mouth
with
my
other
research
group,
but
I
would
say:
we've
actually,
we've
actually
struggled
with
that
that
be.
There
was
a
lot
of
very,
very
good
work
done,
and
people
didn't
have
time
to
really
participate
and
I
think
we
should
see
ourselves
also
as
enablers
of
these
people,
okay,
I.
C
B
C
Group
just
facilitates
a
bunch
of
people,
doing
related
work
to
get
together
and
have
a
discussion,
and
so
some
ITF
people
are
some
industry
people
they
wouldn't
normally
talk
to
I.
Think
that
sounds
highly
reasonable
as
well,
so
so
yeah,
perhaps
an
RFC
is
certainly
one
possible
outcome,
but
if
the
research
group
is
is
facilitating
other
work
and
not
necessarily
producing
RFC
pests,
that's
also
perfectly
reasonable
and.
A
Again,
that's
why
I
think
I,
so
I
during
the
summer
I
had
to
go
to
Montreal
a
number
of
times
for
meetings,
but
allowed
me
a
lot
of
times
in
airports
and
so
I
kind
of
discovered
all
the
stuff.
That's
in
the
data
tracker
and
everything,
and
so
yes,
you
know
we
can
just
upload
different
types
of
documents
and
at
first
I
thought
that
you
could
only
upload
draft
type
documents
and
that
every
other
references
would
have
to
be
in
either
the
gift
or
the
wiki
and
I
discovered.
A
No,
that
you
know
you
just
have
to
say
this
is
a
document
that
I
want
there
and
as
long
as
it's
some
kind
of
PDF,
it's
fine,
so
that
that's
exactly
I
completely
agree
with
you
and
I.
Think.
If
you
look
at
the
meeting
that
we've
had
up
to
now
in
this
proposed
group,
we
had
a
mix
of
people
presenting
drafts
and
also
people
coming
to
talk
about.
You
know,
what's
going
on
and
in
their
research
that
that's
relates
to
us
and
I.
A
Think
it's
great
and
I
know
also
people
a
lot
of
people
over
this
call,
probably
don't
or
not.
On
the
list
that
it's
common
sense
comes
to
a
lot
and
I
think
yesterday,
there
was
also
comments
about
you
know
having
in
there
interims
or
even
full
meetings
when
there
is
a
major
conference
that
relates
to
to
the
research
group,
myself
and
I,
think
probably
for
other
people.
It's
kind
of
great
too
do
it.
I
would
be
ietf
because
then
a
lot
of
people
are
there.
A
A
So
this
is
a
new
topic
and
Frank
will
present
it.
In
and
I'm
almost
finished
talking,
so
this
is
the
end
of
it
before
that.
I
just
want
to
go
to
the
light.
Actually,
my
last
slide
and
then
I
won't
be
able
to
I
will
just
stop
talking
so
again
we're
meeting
in
Singapore,
and
this
actually
relates
because
this
is
really
much
relates
to
what
we
just
said.
I
think
in
Singapore,
where
would
you
like
to
have
is
also
to
provide
a
list
of
related
conferences
and
projects,
and
why?
A
Because
there's
a
lot
of
it
and
second,
because
it
would
allow
us
not
only
to
I,
would
say
from
all
these
conferences
in
our
group,
but
also
promote
our
group
in
these
conferences,
and
so
I
gave
an
example.
And
again
this
is
my
own
advertisement
here.
This
is
this
workshop
on
flexible
network
data
playing
processing.
This
is
going
to
be
next
spring
in
France,
and
actually
it
is
very
much
about
things
related
to
coin.
A
There's
a
lot
of
people
in
the
technical
program
committee
that
are
also
a
member
of
this
list
and
I'm
actually
on
on
it.
I
think
I'm,
the
workshop
chair,
I,
remember
and
there's
gonna,
be
others
like
I,
said
already
in
ICN,
2020,
wind
census,
to
have
a
coin
interim
of
and
there's
going
to
be
a
lot
of
other
conferences
and
I.
A
Think
again,
as
a
research
group
I
think
we
have
to
be
aware
of
what
other
people
are
doing
and
I
think
you
would
like
other
people
who
are
doing
it
to
be
also
aware
of
of
us.
So
I
think
this
follows
on
this
thing
that
it's
not
only
drafts
and
stuff
that
help
us,
but
it's
everything,
but
it
doesn't
mean
that
people
who
have
drafts
please
update
them.
So
let's
go
back
and
open
discussion,
so
I'm
going
to
stop
talking
and
Geoffrey.
You
wanted
to
talk
about
your
new,
your
new
activities
and
Eve.
A
E
So
it
might
be
good
to
find
a
way
to
engage
better
because
there
is,
especially
in
this
area,
a
lot
of
way.
It's
really
important
to
have
this
discussion
between
academia
and
the
RSAF
people,
because
it
academia
is
just
a
topic
as
well
and
I'm
talking
about
use
cases
and
talking
about
data.
You
know
it's
making
some
of
the
research
riddle,
so
I
think
that
it
would
really
help
to
come
up
with
a
way
to
engage,
but
it
might
just
be.
E
A
Good
idea
and
were
yes
and
yes
and
I
was
telling
you
I
started.
Thank
you
enough,
a
few
weeks
ago
to
think
about
the
ways
to
do
that.
So
my
first
idea
was
that
again
to
upload
significant
documents
in
or
a
list
of
documents,
so
that
when
somebody
publishes
at
Sikkim
or
at
infocomm
or
everywhere
else
or
even
like
you
know,
we
I
sent
the
DAX
triple
minutes,
for
example
of
this
year,
but
so
when
we
have
a
significant
document
to
put
it
in
our
document.
A
But
yes,
let's
start
that
discussion
because
I
think,
especially
for
us.
You
know
we
have
Nick
Spencer,
but
a
lot
of
work
on
that
will
never
send
us
anything
because
he's
busy
doing
something
else.
So
let's
start
it
and
let's
not
well
anybody
who
has
ideas
today.
This
is
the
time
but
also
I
completely
agree
with
you
Noah.
Let's
start
a
thread
on
that
on
the
mailing
list.
G
G
There,
and
also
from
past
experience
in
some
of
the
research
groups
in
Ieft,
pan
RG,
was
one
as
the
energy
was
one
is.
Some
of
the
presentation
that
were
done
were
not
always
drafts.
They
were
actually
academic
research
that
people
came
in
and
presented
as
academic
research,
rather
than
try
to
have
the
formalized
paper.
I
think
that
was
one
that
helps
out,
because
translating
research
papers
or
sitcom
papers
into
ITF
draft
sometimes
is
cumbersome.
First
one
is
more
about
explaining
the
research,
and
that
was
actually
helpful
in
those
times.
G
I
do
see
value
in
some
draft
like
the
ones
which
are
now,
because
if
we
think
about
what
ITF
will
need
to
be
able
to
absorb
as
those
kind
of
shifts
from
the
standard
protocols,
they
would
normally
do
that's
a
big
it's
a
big
transition
phase
for
ITF
as
it
goes
as
we
go
along
starting
to
see
more
pseudocode
and
draft
and
actual
pay
wording.
That's
also
something
we're
going
to
start
to
see
more
me
as
I
travel.
A
lot
of
the
world
I
realize
that
it's
impossible
to
follow
everything.
G
That's
going
on
in
that
kind
of
field,
so
having
some
route
is
I,
don't
know
if
it's
a
wiki
page
of
corn
or
G
or
some
others
so
make
sure
that
we
have
linkage
to
the
other
conferences
and
research
papers
available
because,
as
we
go
along,
I
think
not
even
think
we'll
have
everything.
So
it
really
becomes
I
think
it's
a
community
effort
to
make
sure
that
people
can
pull
their
researcher
show
either
to
the
mailing
list
or
access
to
the
wiki
to
be
able
to
make
them
visible.
F
Yeah,
so
this
is
Jeffrey,
so
maybe
one
thing
we
can
do
right
now.
Yes,
maybe
week
moves
our
reference
and
papers
to
our
kid
hub,
so
we
have
a
wiki
to
the
belt
beginning
of
the
chronology
on
travel
dodgy.
We
have.
We
have
one
maintain
along
their
talk
reference
of
papers,
but
it's
maybe
later
we
can
maintain
it
at
as
our
github.
A
F
And
nothing
as
calling
service
also
subsides
about
the
jobs
we
we
are.
We
can
play
as
a
forum
right
in
fact,
so
the
our
previous
meetings,
so
we
have
already
the
similar
way
right,
so
we
invite
those
talks,
maybe
not
necessarily
related
to
the
existing
jobs.
In
fact,
we
have
put
those
talks
in
higher
priorities
than
the
existing
existing
jobs
plan
for
if
and
Li,
but
usually
we
don't.
We
didn't
have
opportunity
to
introduce
ours
right,
so
we
can
further
to
do
this.
F
F
D
Yes,
I
would
agree,
Jeffrey,
so
maintaining
and
moving
the
reference
list
from
our
wiki
to
the
github
and
making
sure
people
know
that
that's
a
living
document
or
a
living
list
of
kind
of
important
reading
materials
and
have
presentations
of
and
references
to
major
papers
and
when
needed,
to
continue
to
prioritize
the
presentation
of
things
that
are
not
strictly
draft,
because
the
drafts
are
easy
to
get
to
and
can
be.
You
know,
read
and
discussed
on
the
mailing
list
and
continue
to
invite
important
work
that
might
have
been
debuted
somewhere
else.
C
D
You
know
what
was
the
most
interesting
couple
of
papers
that
appeared
at
you
know
various
venues
or
who's
driving,
different
programs,
broader
programs
and
getting
them
in
and
and
I
think
it
will.
It
will
take
work
to
actively
help
the
broader
community
see
the
co
energy
as
a
meeting
place,
but
that's
maybe
what
our
aspiration
should
be
for
the
long
long
term.
A
H
A
A
Your
understanding
was
different
from
what
other
people
are
thinking.
So
what
is
your
understanding
because,
again
I've?
You
know
we
have
a
kind
of
a
nice
group
of
people
here.
So
you
know,
maybe
we
can
start
helping
you
for
the
next
version
of
your
document
or
you
know,
get
ideas
out
before
the
singapore's.
So
I
know
you
had
some
new
ideas
or
concerns
or
something
so
maybe
you
can
talk
about
it.
A
We
are
not
talking
static,
centers,
we're
talking
industrial
networks
where
the
device
are
actually
in
the
plant,
not
in
a
data
center,
and
when
we
talk
about
the
the
data
filtering,
for
example,
this
is
not
a
data
center
functionality,
yeah
I
will,
if
I
talk,
if
I
think
of
well
I'm,
not
taking
exact,
maybe
huge
machines
but
I'm
talking
a
machine
and
I
would
say.
For
me,
the
data
filtering
happens
very,
very
close
to
where
the
machine
is
because
again
with
the
stuff
that
Eve
was
talking
about.
A
H
So
yeah,
that's
one.
So
we
want
to
so
I
guess.
One
major
problem
of
our
draft
until
now
is
that
we
don't
really,
as
you
probably
mentioned
in
Montreal,
is
that
we
don't
really
have
the
implementations
or
that
we
don't
really
talk
about
what
is
currently
done
or
like
what
is
really
done.
Industries
because
they're
we
often
find
these
closed
source
solutions,
which
we
do
not
have
x2
and
all
our
partners
here.
H
A
A
To
tune
academia
but
I
think
also.
This
is
something
that
is
beyond
us.
I
think
this
is
also
something
that
could
the
disco
could
be
a
topic
for
the
IRS
G
dinner
and
in
Singapore,
because
I
think
it's
something
that
all
the
groups
have
to
face,
but
as
we
started
it,
let's
deal
with
it
in
our
group
and
see
if
we
can
actually
build
something
that
will
be
useful
for
the
others,
but
again.
D
Some
of
the
information
you
need
so
I
would
say
if
we
could
articulate
it
and
make
make
us
more
full
formal
request
out
of
it
as
part
of
the
problem
state
visit
to
this
area
for
point
R
G.
That
would
be
that
might
be
a
first
step
and
that
we
help
with
the
solicitation
of
others
who
can
help
solve
the
problem.
Yeah
I,
don't
know
if
we'll
get
any
answers
but
but
get
but
capture
it.
As
you
know
and
document
it
I'm
going
to
move
this
forward
now,.
A
I
think
I
think
the
start:
okay,
like
okay
techno
ascent,
let's
start
at
read
on
our
research
group
or
proposed
research
group
skills,
because
we
are
facing
a
situation
that
could
be
different
from
other
groups.
At
the
same
time
that
we
are
looking
at
that
whole
research
and
I
would
say,
industrial
networks
are
just
one
part
of
it,
but
I
would
say:
let's
focus
on
that
one
for
one.
A
Second,
that
we
are
looking
at,
how
the
research
about
more
and
more,
you
know
they
call
it
industry
for
the
auto
agriculture
Ford,
auto
vehicle
for
dot
or
whatever
is
called
for
dot
all
right.
Now,
there's
a
lot
of
research
but
at
the
same
time
there's
a
lot
of
pressure
from
companies
who
want
to
get
into.
A
Who,
who
want
to
implement
solutions
so
I
think
we
have
this
tussle
in
our
group,
in
particular
between
industry,
wanting
to
have
solutions
and
those
researchers
still
researching
and
I
think
to
to
communicate
or
to
have
these
two
groups
communicate
and
to
essentially
yes,
start
the
spread
of
how
we
make
how
we
can
out
Cathy
Mia,
but
at
the
same
time
it
will
help
other
people
astray
and
do
it
for
our
group.
So
with
our
problem,
it
may
be
different
in
other
groups.
A
So
if
something
out
of
our
group
comes
out,
that
is
bold
and
it
will
be,
but
it
I
think
it
will
be
useful
for
us,
as
you
said,
Yves
to
us
focus
on
what
we
want
to
achieve
and
have
a
better
view
of
which
research
field
is
and
how
well
is
it's
going
to
evolve?
I
think
it's
a
really
good
way
of
starting.
A
B
Yes,
so
the
closet
closest
standardization
part
is
related
to
its
computing.
The
time
following
is
Hz
and
3gpp,
where
there
is
a
lot
of
momentum
at
the
moment
on
defining
these
details
and
they're
they're,
going
already
in
in
quite
quite
deep
in
in
the
system
and
protocol
stacks
defining.
How
do
you
use
DNS
in
discovering
data
and
Silverson
and-
and
things
like
that,
so
I'm
just.
C
B
B
Study
group
and
si
okay
got
it
okay,
but
if,
if
this
exists
or
the
application
level,
whereas
this
is
situation
on
the
infrastructure
level,
thank
you.
They
have
their
own
use
on
the
architectures
and,
of
course,
starting
from
what
is
the
mobile
network
and
trying
to
shoehorn
T.
It's
the
architecture
instead,
yeah.
A
B
B
B
A
Everybody
else
has
I
see
names
that
I
don't
know
if
I've
ever
seen
on
this
on
this
list
again
by
the
time,
who's
hiding
behind
team
guy.
That's
what
I
was
thinking.
Who
is
T
me
that
it
is
a
Technical
University
of
Munich
yeah.
It
has
to
be
mentioned,
Technical
University,
but
which
key
is
that
New
York
yeah.
A
I
A
F
Ok,
I
try
to
keep
this
shot
so
so
it's
not
miss
neva,
I'm
interested
about
image
computing
and
into
the
center
console
wrap,
is
mainly
focus
on
the
data
center
in
case
and
the
reason
Vale
we
have
investigated
some
other
disclosures.
So
besides
the
exact
size,
those
already
included
up
for
plan
hole
in
battle
ordering
or
some
others,
so
with
a
little
tool,
just
rebuild
the
database,
so
how
you
neural
computing
can
help
to
improve
the
performance
of
distributed
database
inside
the
data
center.
F
That's
what
I
am
recently
investigating
at
this
one
thing
and
secondary
of
that
we
have
some
implementation,
unprovable
concept
for
nano
computing
for
AI
cheney
so
drawn
in
that
implementation.
We
in
visions
and
potential
improve
improvement
of
about
of
the
transporter
protocols,
so
the
other
probability
r2x
email
in
our
list.
So
as.
F
F
Yeah
yeah,
yes,
so
a
lot
of
nothing
so
in
London,
I'm
thinking,
some
of
our
experience
in
the
defence
affirmed
off
of
the
vegetable
database
I
believe
can
be
applicable
as
well
to
the
concluding
use
case
and
suppose
arguing
about
which
local
advocate
of
geo
database
among
these
implementing
the
edge
consultants
there's
a
potential
ancient
impact
in
future
in
the
near
future.
For
me,
so
maybe
I
will
also
explore
that
topic
later.
F
A
D
Yeah
we
had
gotten
some
extensive
comments
from
Dave
ran
on
the
mailing
list
and
I
believe
that
I
answered
in
kind
had
some
extensive
response
to
him
on
each
of
the
points
that
he
made
about
our
draft
now.
Our
draft
is
focused
essentially
on
edge
data
discovery
and
the
reason
why
that's
related
to
coin
RG
is
it
goes
along
these
lines.
D
The
thinking
is
that
you
know
Internet
of
Things
and
devices,
particularly
sensors
and
monitoring
elements
at
the
very
edges
of
the
network
are
creating
a
lot
of
data
and
it
may
over
its
lifetime,
reside
at
the
very
edges
of
the
network.
But
it's
more
likely
that
that
data-
you
know
at
least
initially.
The
model
was
that
that
data
was
going
to
be
sent
back
to
the
to
the
cloud,
but
as
more
and
more
devices
are
either
continuously
generating
data
or
are
high
volume
data
such
as
cameras,
which
are
sort
of
the.
D
If
you
look
at
the
kinds
of
devices
that
are
getting
added
to
the
Internet
of
Things
no
cameras,
just
our
huge
percentage
of
the
other
thing,
they're
generating
in
vast
amounts
of
data,
there's
just
no
way.
That's
any
that
that
data
is
going
to
be
sent
back
to
the
cloud,
certainly
not
in
this
an
original
format.
So
if
nothing
else,
some
of
the
compute
that's
happening
at
the
edges
of
the
network
is
going
to
be
transformational,
transcoding
and
so
forth,
compression
subsampling.
D
All
of
those
sort
of
how
do
I,
you
know,
fit
this
data
across
the
pipe,
but
then
more
sophisticated
computations,
because
after
all
pointing
a
camera
at
something
that
is
mostly
uninteresting,
you
know,
isn't
you
sort
of
send
that
data
back
somewhere?
It's
only
in
the
event
of
something,
as
we
said
earlier,
anomalous
or
interesting
or
unique
or
rare,
or
all
of
the
all
of
those
kinds
of
adjectives
that
you
could
assign
to
the
to
the
data
with
within
the
data
within
the
video
stream,
and
so
what
you're?
D
D
So
and
as
you
can,
you
can
imagine.
That's
a
big
problem
to
tackle,
so
we,
instead
of
tackling
that
problem,
we
answered
pretty
much
all
of
the
other
questions,
of
which
other
were
many
and,
and
that
was
what
resulted
in
draft
number
three.
We
didn't
post
this
to
the
list,
I
posted
them
to
the
co-authors,
but
we'll
send
all
of
that
to
the
list
for
people
to
consume
and
then
raise
this
bigger
question
about
well
one:
is
this
an
interesting
enough
problem
for
the
coin?
Rg
group?
D
Is
this
the
right
group
to
have
the
discussion
in
about
the
whole
data
lifecycle
of
all
these
devices
attached
to
at
the
edge
of
the
network
that
do
have
a
compute
aspect
to
them,
but
not
in
every
single
part
of
the
lifecycle
of
the
data?
So
so
that's
where
we
are
with
our
draft
I
think
this.
It
still
needs
some.
We
need
to
do
diligence
to
really
capture
the
proper
references
for
for
completeness
and
we're
still
trying
to
frame
you
know.
D
What's
the
problem,
we're
tackling
and
is
it
going
to
have
this
broader
scope
and
I?
Don't
know
how
many
people
actually
had
looked
at
it
or
have
thought
about
the
thumb,
but
I
would
absolutely
welcome
your
feedback
as
we
continue
to
evolve
it.
It's
still
pretty
drafty.
If
you
ask
me,
even
though
it's
at
Version
three
and.
A
Think,
for
example,
if
I
see
what's
happening
in
ICN
for
the
moment,
you
know
all
the
compute
first
networking
all
the
dist
and
even
what's
happening
and
distributed,
which
will
accept
the
encryption,
there's
a
lot
of
things
that
we
are
overlapping
with
them
and
it's
fine
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
people
who
participate
in
all
the
groups
and
I
see
this
as
positive,
not
as
something
that's
bad.
So
if
you're,
you
know,
I
think
what
you're
talking
about
yes
has
impact
for
us,
but
it's
also
most
likely
related
to.
A
D
And
it
certainly
is
something
that
emerged
as
I
said,
the
presentation
initially
in
the
ICN
working
group,
because,
of
course,
if
you've
got
distributed,
data
and
you're
trying
to
discover
it
or
place
it
somewhere
after
compute
on
it
all
of
the
naming
issues
and
the
metadata
issues
are
closely
aligned
with
ICN
concerns.
Icn
could
be
one
way
to
solve
the
data,
discovery,
problem,
discovery
and
placement,
because
it's
on
the
one
hand,
discovery
of
data
is
interesting
because
it
is
to
feed
the
computations.
D
Our
data
may
be
scattered
and
we
may
need
to
marshal
it,
but
there's
the
similar
problem
that,
after
the
computation,
where
you
place
the
data
yeah
and
over
time,
even
the
problem,
something
that
we've
looked
at
at
Intel
quite
a
bit
is
the
almost
autonomous
migration
of
data.
The
need
for
that.
As
we
begin
to
not
just
begin
to
continue
to
populate
the
network
with
devices
that
are
continuously
streaming,
whether
it's
you
know,
high-resolution
volumetric
data
or
whether
it's
a
low-level
event
data.
A
Yeah
and
yeah,
and
and
again
if
when
I
was
talking
about
the
hackathon
and
the
data
filtering,
for
example,
and
some
of
the
architectures
I've
seen
if
you
think
about
how
do
you
define
which
packets
are
interesting
or
not,
and
essentially
the
ICM
interest
and
data
are
very
much
one
way
of
doing
that.
So
again,
I
think
all
these
things
overlap
one
another
and
it's
great.
We
haven't
heard
from
many
other
people
we're
still
on
or
on.
A
A
J
J
D
A
A
G
A
A
Anyway,
oh
okay,
any
anybody
else,
I
think
we
we
did
I
think
it
did
not
hurt
from
doll
today
have
waited
art
from
dong,
so
we
still
have
towards
from
going
to
on
the
spot.
I
think
yeah
yeah
we're
putting
people
on
the
spot,
but
yeah,
that's
you
know,
that's
the
goal
of
of
these
interims,
it's
to
hear
what
people
have
to
say
and
what
they
can
comfortable
them.
Think
so
dong.
Do
you
have
any
comments
on
what
happened
or
something
else.
I
A
I
A
Welcome
and
yeah,
you
know,
every
contribution
is
great
and
I
think
also
that's
another
of
my
you
know.
Baby
projects
is
I
think
these
these
research
groups
are
also
very
good
to
some
kind
of
an
education
tool
like
who
people
who
don't
know
about
the
technology
could
also
learn
about
it.
I
think
that's
part
of
the
evangelism
of
the
group,
but
I
think
this
is
also
a
little.
K
A
K
G
K
D
A
D
A
Opportunity,
okay,
so
I'll
sit
back
the
next
meeting,
so
I
think
we
we're
going
to
have
a
short
meeting,
but
it's
fine
I
think
we
raised
good
things
today.
So
I'm
really
happy
about
this.
Maybe
we
should
have
had
it
before,
but
it's
fine.
So
let's
meet
so
I
in
in
our
action
item
Eve.
So
you,
since
you
were
taking
notes,
making
notes
I,
think
the
action
item
is
starting
a
thread
about
how
we
can
help
academia
in
terms
of
participating
either
shepherding
documents
allowing
more
discussion.
We
can
have
more.
A
A
D
I
think
another
another
facet
of
that
is
I.
Don't
know
it's
not
maybe
not
the
data
tracker,
but
it's
probably
the
github
having
a
corner
of
that
which
really
tracks
not
just
posting
things
on
the
email
list
about
events
that
are
happening
there
in
this
area,
but
also
listing
the
conferences
across
different
organizations
that
fall
within
striking
distance
of
this
topic.
Yeah.
A
Action
item-
I.
Think
everybody's
action
item
is
where,
if
you
have
a
draft,
please
make
sure
that
it's
updated
on
time.
Please
send
us
agenda
items
for
Singapore.
If
you
want
to
participate
remotely,
it's
fine
I
actually
think
we
should
use
more.
You
know
we
should
reduce
our
carbon
footprints
and
use
even
more
of
the
remote
participation
tools.
So
if
you
want
to
participate
remotely,
it's
fine
just
also
tell
us.