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From YouTube: IETF-MADINAS-20230925-1400
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MADINAS interim meeting session
2023/09/25 1400
https://datatracker.ietf.org/group/madinas/meetings/
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A
B
C
C
A
Yes,
okay,
so
today!
Well,
we
are
having
this
interim
meeting
as
announced
for
the
Marina's
working
group
and
typical,
not
well
note
that
you
should
be
all
aware
of
it.
So
if
you
are
not
aware
of
the
note
well,
please
take
care
of
breathing
the
different
documents
that
are
on
the
slide,
some
additional
points
on
the
Note.
Well,
I
guess
we
are
all
familiar,
but
in
case
please,
you
are
not.
Please
take
your
time
to
be
familiar
with
this
and
then
the
agenda
for
today
very
short,
the
timing.
Sorry
about
that.
A
The
timings
are
not
correct.
This,
yes,
indicative
that
we
are
gonna,
do
a
surgeon,
review
status,
update
and
then
mainly
the
the
whole
point
of
the
meeting
today
is
for
the
hackathon
plans
for
the
next
ITF
meeting
in
practice.
A
So
in
terms
of
the
working
group
status
update,
we
have
three
items
in
our
current
Charter.
One
is
on
the
market.
Randomization
current
Institute
of
Affairs.
The
chairs
are
basically
working
on
on
the
working
group.
Last
call
we
are
basically
looking
forward.
We
are
in
contact
with
some
persons
to
to
be
able
to
run
the
working
last
call
and
the
suffering
of
the
documents.
A
Since
we
are
both
authors
of
the
document,
Juan,
Carlos
and
I,
we
believe
is
best
if
somebody
else
take
care
of
both
the
working
group
last
call
and
the
documents
effort
in
to
avoid
any
potential
conflict
of
interest.
So
we
will.
Hopefully
we
will
be
announcing
this
very
soon.
A
Somebody
will
be
running
this
very
soon
and
that
will
start
or
trigger
the
process
of
hopefully
finalizing
this
document
and
shipping
this
it
to
the
iot,
then
the
other
document
that
we
have
Arabia
document
working
group
documentation
the
use
cases
and
identity
requirements.
As
we
discussed
in
San
Francisco.
This
document
is
almost
complete.
There
were
some
comments
discussed
and
we
are
waiting
for
a
new
version,
and
hopefully,
after
that
version
we
will
be
able
to
also
do
working.
A
Groupless
call
on
that
document
and
the
last
one
that
we
have
in
our
current
Charter
is
on
the
vcp
for
handling
the
RCM
and-
and
this
is
basically
related
to
the
hackathon
point,
because,
as
we
discussed
also
in
San
Francisco,
we
want
to
learn
as
much
as
possible
for
these
different
activities.
Hackathon
and
additional
experiments
that
we
may
be
doing
and
based
on
that.
Try
to
develop,
try
to
derive
some
bad
current
practices
that
we
can
document
in
the
in
the
actual
document.
So
we
don't
have
a
candidate.
A
Yet
Jerome
was
working
on
a
document
and-
and
we
will
see
how
to
deal
with
this
after
we
have
some
additional
lesson
learned
kind
of
from
the
from
the
hackathon
I
like
activities
that
we
are,
we
are
having.
We
had
a
first
set
of
results
presented
in
San
Francisco
with
the
the
Warren
experiment
that
he
was
pursuing,
and
we
want
to
to
continue
on
that
line
to
to
learn
from
that
process.
B
B
C
Carlos
not
yet
let.
B
A
B
B
B
So
yeah.
Basically,
you
already
went
through
this
slide
so
for
the
for
the
plants
for
ietf
118,
as
Carlos
mentioned,
we're
looking
at
running
a
hackathon
to
to
see
if
we
can
compare
different
implementations
and
look
at
the
potential
privacy
leakage
over
this
multiple
open
roaming,
implementations,
and
so
far,
we've
heard
from
people
that
we're
not
able
to
make
the
call,
for
instance,
Bruno.
B
A
Yeah
sure
so,
basically,
we
have
some
devices,
this
tourism
that
are
Linux
based
devices
done
by
actually
attack
company.
So
it's
very
fortunate
that
this
is
may
happen
in
prep
because
they
are
based
there.
My
ideas
tried
to
replicate
or
to
basically
get
to
the
war
and
set
up
using
these
devices
and
then
be
able
to
to
keep
those
devices
kind
of
a
stable
test
or
a
stable
platform
to
do
additional
tests
during
the
hackathon
in
ATF
119
and
still
need
to
get
to
the
point
of
Warren
got.
A
So
this
is
what
I
I
plan
I
intend
to
do
before
the
hackathon.
Let's,
let's
see,
if
I
manage
to
get
the
time
required
for
this,
but
the
idea
will
be
to
be
able
to
bring
to
the
ATF
device
where
Diva,
where
terminals
can
connect
via
Wi-Fi
on
this,
and
this
will
be
connected
and
so
providing
support
or
providing
a
radio
access
network
with
open
roaming
support.
A
Us
were
indeed
that's
the
that's
a
plan
and
I
I
guess,
with
some
help
from
Warren
and
few
others.
I
should
be
able
to
get
to
that
point
and
provide
that
as
an
additional
Access
Network
to
test
during
the
hackathon.
A
B
Thank
you
very
much
for
those
details
and
we'll
we'll
see
Warren
hasn't
confirmed,
but
we
assume
he
can
bring
the
the
same
configuration
that
he
brought
for
the
last
ietf
where
he
was
showing
some
some
results
and
some
captures
So.
B
The
plan
is
to
test
also
his
configuration
from
last
time
and
finally,
well
all
these
configurations,
because
it's
a
Federated
Network,
we
will
require
collaboration
with
WPA
to
get
the
required
certificate
so
that
we
can
connect
in
the
recognize
each
other
and
and
wrong,
basically,
which
is
the
whole
planning
so
yeah,
so
we're
going
to
do
some
offline
planning
on
addressing
scientific
from
the
WBA
for
people
that
want
to
participate
in
the
hackathon.
B
So
maybe
this
is
something
we
need
to
communicate
on
the
list
to
make
sure
that
everyone
that
is
planning
to
to
bring
any
any
configuration,
make
sure
that
if
they
require
a
certificate,
they
get
it.
This
is
for
the
IDP
or
or
ANP
implementations,
not
for
the
for
the
device.
Of
course,
the
device
would
be
with
the
with
the
different
profile
provisioning
profiles.
B
And
well,
just
just
to
complete
Carlos
Peter
has
kindly
agreed
to
to
do
the
the
working
group
last
call.
So
thank
you
very
much
for
that.
Peter.
B
Okay,
so
does
anybody
have
any
any
questions
comments
regarding
anything
on
the
status
or
the
plans
for
the
hackathon.
B
C
B
A
Yeah
I
think
that
that
makes
sense
I
as
soon
as
I
start
working
on
this
I
would
probably
send
some
emails
to
the
mailing
list
also
reporting
my
progress.
Hopefully,
we
will
be
able
to
to
have
a
successful
hackathon
in
ATF
118.
A
B
Yes,
so
thank
you
very
much.
Everyone
I
appreciate
meeting,
but
look
looking
forward
to
seeing
you
guys
idea
for
18.