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From YouTube: IETF-CELLAR-20220426-1900
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CELLAR meeting session at IETF
2022/04/26 1900
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting//proceedings/
A
B
B
B
I
noticed
the
spencer.
Do
you
think
this?
Am
I
insane
that
you
know
my
shelves
now
look
like
they're
on
my
right.
B
B
B
B
If
there's
any
working
group
that
should
make
this
argument,
it
should
be,
it
should
be
this
working
group
right.
I
see
you
pointing
to
to
my
left,
which
is
probably
your
right,
my
right
and
the
door.
B
Yeah,
so
it's
basically,
we
all
get
the
same
view.
We
get
a
consistent
view
in
the
mirroring
of
yourself
is
not
anyway
just
interesting.
I
don't
know
if
that's
an
intention
or
not,
so
I
don't
know
what
I
should
do
here
note
taking
tool.
I
I
can
open
the
note
taking
tool,
but
that
doesn't
make
the
rest
of
you
see
it.
B
B
C
B
So
dave
your
microphone
working
today.
B
A
Dave
text
to
me
a
bit
sooner,
but
he
will
not
be
able
to
have
a
mic.
Oh
no.
A
B
Okay,
all
right.
Well,
I
have
another
another
window:
open,
no
microphones.
As
jerome
said:
okay,
it's
all
right,
type
away,
dave
and
we'll
we'll
see
you
no,
we
have
steve.
We
have.
B
C
And
christian
is,
I
am
almost
sure
the
christian
is
christian
wiedema
from
the
mock
side
meeting
like
a
year
ago.
C
We
we
use,
we
use
the
we
use
the
solar
jabber
room
and
obviously
they
haven't
balanced
the
the
jabber
server
since
then,
and
he's
been
in.
He.
B
B
B
B
B
C
B
Lower
right,
which
is
a
local
mute
that
was
just
much
faster
for
everyone,
we're
such
a
small
group.
It
doesn't
really
matter,
we
don't
need
a
lot
of
microphone
etiquette.
D
B
Okay,
so
status
of
the
document,
so
we
were
going
to
bring
one
of
them
to
working
group.
Last
call,
I
think
it
was
matraska.
B
Which
button
are
we
talking
about
working
group?
Last
call
I
I
it's
not.
C
I
thought
we
did.
Let
me
we
can
look
real
quick
on
the
data
tracker,
so
the
the
thing
about
matraska
user's,
video
coding
history,
questions
was
from
was
from
dave
rice.
If
that
helps.
C
It
it
was,
it
was,
it
was
added
for
the
for
the
march
meeting
and.
B
C
B
Away
when
it
was
discussed,
okay
and
is
in
working
group,
that's
not
what
I
wanted
and
is
in
working
glass
call,
and
when
does
that
working
group
class
call
ending.
You
remember.
C
So
I
thought
the
deal
was
that
we
were
we
said
four
weeks
because
it's
even
though
it
could
be
two
weeks
because
we
have
external
readers.
Okay,
two
two
weeks
is
legal.
B
C
Failing
that,
it
should
be
on
the
it
should
be
on
the
it
should
be
on
the
mailing
list.
Let
me
let
me
just
check
that
real
quick.
C
B
We
have
some
comments
from
martin
here
and
some
discussion
about
that.
I
don't
know.
If
I
would
say
that's
would
you
say.
That's
that's
completed
at
this
point.
Steve
jerome.
D
There's
some
merge
requests
or
pull
requests
pending.
I
think
we
can
merge
them
today
and
I
think
they'll
cover
everything
that
that
has
been
raised.
B
B
B
Dave
wonders
jerome
is
in
the
attendance
list.
He
spoke
said
something
before
did
you
have
something
else
to
add
dave.
B
All
right
so
spencer
and
I
need
to
get
probably
do
a
good
read
through
it
as
well
before
we
we
pass
that
up,
and
I
started
that
and
then
I
didn't
finish
because
I
had
some
other
business
that
I
had
to
take
care
of.
Okay,.
B
D
Because
excellent,
most
of
the
things
were
typos,
but
there's
one:
that's
changing
the
order
of
some
text
and
a
bit
of
rewriting
nothing
major,
but
it
makes
the
document
nicer
to
read.
B
All
right,
so
let
me
ask
seller,
control
and
chapter
codex,
so
I
recall
chapter
codex.
We
pulled
that
out
of
matraska
right
and
we
also
pulled
tags.
I
think
out
of
matraska.
D
B
Okay,
so
they've
expired.
It
would
be
great
to
pump
to
repost
them,
even
if
there's
no
changes
to
them.
Just
so
that
external
reviewers
can
see
that,
if
they're
like
well,
what
about
chapter
codex,
then
they
can
see
more
clearly
that
it's
the
the
other
thing,
and
you
know
we
absolutely
can
make
an
informative
reference
to
them.
If
we
need
to
meaning,
we
can
say
you
know
in
work
in
other
work.
This
is
happening
without
actually
depending
upon,
what's
actually
happening
and
that's
fine.
B
B
D
B
So,
can
you
take,
can
you
repost
it
or
dave?
Would
you
like
to
repost
it.
B
Okay,
I'm
I
will
bother
martin,
did
he
post
flack,
I
I
told
I
I
said
please
post
flack
and
I
think
he
did
do
that.
C
B
Go
three
yeah
yeah.
He
did
it
after
I
after
I
come
aft
after
I,
and
I
approved
it
because
he
wasn't
a
current
author
at
the
time.
So
he
couldn't
have
permissions,
but
he
did
he
did
post
it.
So
that
was
reposted.
B
23
by
martin
write
his
last
name.
B
D
B
Okay,
so
spencer,
you
said
you
dug
something
up
on
the
old
business
about
this
other
other
topic.
C
Yeah,
just
just
that,
just
that,
just
that
dave
was
the
one
who
had
requested
it
for
the
march
meeting.
B
C
C
B
B
Okay,
so
do
we
want
to
just
log
it
as
an
issue
and
put
future
on
it?.
B
Oh
to
transcoding
history,
yes,
it
could
be
an
issue
I
would
suggest
we
just
make
it
into
an
issue
paste
it
into
the
minutes
here
and
I
don't
know
it
doesn't
seem
like
we're
going
to
easily
deal
with
it.
It
sounds
like
it
could
be
topic
for
an
extension
at
some
point.
B
D
D
B
B
B
Wonderful
okay,
so
we
talked
about
matraska.
B
I'm
not
sure
what
was
going
to
be
written
there,
but
so
working
group
last
call
ends
tomorrow.
B
B
New
version
10
to
be
posted,
so
we're
going
to
be
passing
that
up
to
our
area,
director,
spencer
and
I
need
to
do
a
pass
through
that.
Did
we
say
that
one
of
us
was
going
to
be
this?
The
shepherd
spencer?
I
guess
you
know
I
can
negotiate
that.
B
Shepherd
review
and
you
know,
make
sure
that
we're
we're
we've
caught
any
other
little
bits
like
we
didn't
catch
in
ffv1
and
yeah,
so
yeah,
let's
just
let's
just
do
that.
We'll
figure
that
out
between
the
two
of
us.
B
B
I
hope
to
have
an
empty
review
from
our
80.
That
would
be
nice,
and
then
it
will
go
on
to
the
iesg.
Okay,
anything
else
on
matraska.
D
We
can
decide
what
to
do
with
the
merge
requests.
I
think
there
was
no
comment
and
they
are
simple
enough
that
we
can
yeah.
B
B
The
flat
document
now
being
led.
B
We
resolved
the
entire
copy
left
issue,
so
that's
all
set.
I
don't
think
there's
been
a
lot
of
discussion
outside
of
martin's
comments,
but
I
know
we're
making
progress
so
I'm
seems
happy.
Anyone
have
any
notion
how
close
we
are
to
finishing
the
document.
B
A
Change
about
the
v4
yeah
for
the
moment,
the
the
cuties
about
f,
everyone
is
the
speed,
so
we
are
trying
to
have
a
gpu
version
of
everyone
decoding
and
checking
the
bottlenecks
before
working
on
the
v4
and
yeah
one
on.
One
of
the
feature
we
want
is
to
to
fix
the
button
next
for
from
bit
v3
to
fixing
b4
the
the
issues
in
this
screen
about
heavy
image
processing.
A
A
B
Okay,
anybody
else
got
any
other
business
today
because
I'm
happy
to
be
done
if
we're
done.
D
B
Else
so
the
the
reviews
will
come
to
our
mailing
list
from
the
aid
area
director
and
the
iesg
they
get.
You
won't
don't
be
surprised
if
you
get
three
or
four
copies
of
the
email
from
from,
because
you
get
it
from
the
mailing
list
and
well
I
get
you
know,
there's
all
these
different
aliases
and
they
get
sent
to
everybody
and
it's
kind
of
a
shotgun
approach.
So
yeah
your
mail
program
might
collapse
it
to
one
message
and
mine.
B
It
shows
up
as
two
or
three
usually
and
the
the
like
before
that.
The
key
thing
is
that
we
acknowledge
that
that
we,
we
acknowledge
the
the
the
the
message
as
quickly
as
possible,
and
ideally,
we
would
put
together
a
pull
request
relating
to
that
message
that
that
set
of
of
comments,
whether
it's
one
commit
or
ten
commits,
doesn't
matter,
and
then
they
would
be
able
to
see
using
the
the
files
change
diff.
B
They
would
be
able
to
see
the
differences
that
we
proposed
and
we
and
in
some
cases
if
we
need
to
arg,
if
you
need
to
have
a
conversation
with
them,
then
you
can
have
it
in
line
in
the
message,
preferably
there,
rather
than
in
the
pull
request,
because
it
probably
won't
have
time
to
get
back
to
the
pull
request.
But
that's
my
experiences
is
better
to
do
that
and
it's
it's.
B
It's
definitely
advantageous
to
try
to
react
to
them
as
they
you
know,
within
within
half
a
day
or
so
of
them
posting
it,
because
the
advantage
is
that
it's
still
in
there
in
their
it's
still
in
their
brain
cache.
B
As
to
what
doing
so,
you
can
ask,
especially
if
you
have
any
questions
you
want
to
ask
about.
Well,
did
you
mean
this
or
I
didn't
understand,
but
anyway
we
won't
be.
We
won't
get
that
so
we'll
do
the
we'll
do
the
shepherd
report
first,
we'll
have
our
own
ad.
Do
we'll
be
do
a
review
and
then
it
will
go
to
the
rest
of
them.
B
Okay
and
some
other
people
will
be
new
because
they
just
started
in
march.
We
have
at
least
one
security
area
director,
that's
new
and
some
other
people.
I
can't
remember
who
else
has
switched,
but
some
of
them
are
because
the
the
two-year
the
two-year
appointment
ended
ends
in
march
each
every
two
years.
B
B
Fair
enough-
and
I
don't
maybe
I
need
to
don't
need
to
tell
you
this
or
maybe
I
do,
but
I
usually
leave
myself
logged
into
the
seller
working
group
jabber
on
the
itf
list.
So
if
you,
if
you
want
to
get
a
hold
of
me,
that's
one
good
way.
If,
if
email
isn't
working
or
you
want
to
have
a
you
know,
some
other
conversation.
D
B
C
B
C
Professor
very
good
today
and
I
did
I
did-
stick
the
page
of
the
sorry,
the
pointer
to
the
email
from
dave
that
was
in
the
on
to
the
mailing
list
about
the
matron
thing.
So.