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From YouTube: TMRID (DRIP) BOF Interim Meeting, 2020-02-06
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TMRID (DRIP) BOF Interim Meeting, 2020-02-06
A
As
well
so
basically,
it
went
through
the
pole
of
iteration
and
most
of
the
people
in
the
cold
were
in
the
loop,
except
for
last
minute
change,
where
only
the
people
that
were
awake,
so
that
was
basically
Daniel
and
myself.
We
made
some
final
changes,
but
the
big
changes
are
to
address
Magnus
block.
A
You
wanted
to
get
the
scope
so
that
the
reason
why
the
highlighted
text
is
here-
and
there
was
too
much
primetime
for
hip
so
now
hip-
is
still
there,
but
they
come
a
kind
of
I
wanna,
say
hidden,
but
less
abuse,
sorry,
but
I
think
it
is
mandatory
and
we
change
as
well.
This
is
part-
please
read
right,
it's
a
very
important
I
think
with
this
one
we
would
get
two
blocks
right:
Magnus
he's
unable
to
read
it
before
Monday
another
is
traveling
or
he
loaded,
but
then
read
it
again.
A
C
C
A
C
D
Remember,
who
said
it
it
was
an
email
just
today
of
maybe
part
of
the
working
groups.
Task
is
to
look
at
the
legal
issue,
acquirements
on
all
sides
and
then
just
make
a
general
thing
that
could
apply
everywhere.
I,
don't
know
if
I
read
that
incorrectly
somebody's,
but
that's
what
I
felt
like
the
direction
was
going
towards
for
requirements
to
bring
them
legal
side
in
yeah,
I,
guess
I'm
trying
to
be
real,
careful.
C
D
D
C
The
last
question:
first,
the
ASTM
documents
once
they
are
published,
which
this
one
isn't
yeah,
are
publicly
available
for
a
fee,
the
ASTM
documents
that
have
not
yet
been
published.
So
this
is
this
one,
although
it
has
been
approved
for
publication,
it's
still
in
an
Ender
cube.
Those
are
available
only
to
people
who
join
STM,
but
subscribe.
I
find
s
the
animosity
between
fifty
and
a
hundred
bucks.
A
So
this
will
be
challenging
right.
This
is
because
what
we
call
behind
a
paywall
o
a
member
war,
so
basically
it
means
that
we
cannot
use
really
them
as
a
reference.
But
again
what
we
need
to
do
is
technical
requirements,
because
that's
what
the
IDF
does.
The
IDF
does
not
do
anything
singing
that
this
requirement
means
this
legal
requirement.
We
cannot
say
this
right,
so
you
are
on
the
BOCES
or
on
both
chair
on
the
ITF
side.
We
need
to
stick
to
technical
stuff
and
getting
the
this
reference.
A
C
C
C
C
C
And
I
don't
have
visibility
into
the
innards
of
the
ASTM
process,
but
I
think
they're
kind
of
stuck
between
a
rock
and
a
hard
place
here,
because
the
changes
that
they're
gonna
need
to
make
based
upon
the
FAA
NPRM,
our
substantive
changes,
they're,
not
just
editorial
typographical
changes,
so
they
can't
just
be
made
by
the
ASTM
editors.
They
have
to
go
back
out
with
a
revision
of
the
standard,
Andry
ballot
and
I.
B
The
like
a
chicken-egg
problem,
so
two
things
this
the
drafting
heavily
cited.
This
ASTM
documentation
stand
for
are
not
a
member
of
data,
so
we
don't
have
access
to
that.
I
mean
we're
trying
to
understand
that
there's
no
way
we
can
and
for
you
guys
to
share
with
us
at
all.
But
the
second
thing
is
the
FAA
has
been:
has
a
Senate
to
send
a
notification
that
they're
going
to
extend
the
commented
behavior
for
the
rulemaking
right,
because
we
are
receiving
tons
of
a
controversial
comments
for
the
further
for
the
announcement
they
did
on
December.
F
G
G
C
It's
to
here,
I
agree
with
Bob,
although
the
surprise
that
the
FAA
is
going
to
delay
publication
of
the
ASTM
standard,
the
things
that
it's
going
to
require
changing
are
not
things
that
directly
affect
us.
For
instance,
they
are
requiring
pressure
altitude
as
opposed
to
a
GPS
altitude
care
where
the
altitude
came
from.
You
know
the
communications
is,
is
transparent
to
you
know
what
was
the
origin
of
the
day
time?
Another
thing
that
they
did
is
they
they
said
well,
we
need
an
indication
of
the
emergency
status
of
the
aircraft.
D
I'm
just
calling
attention
to
the
chat
just
because
Eric
and
Michael,
while
this
discussion
was
happening,
was
typing
I'm,
just
gonna
speak
it
out
so
Michaels
saying
he
thinks
the
documents
should
recap
and
one
or
two
sentences,
any
technical
needs
which
are
driven
by
legal
requirements.
So
our
document
is
somewhat
self-contained
occur.
Eric
also
agrees
with
Michael
and
he
was
I
said.
A
Yes,
I
mean
we
arranged.
Basically,
this
chatter
like
it
is
now
I'm
99%,
confident
it
will
pass
the
first
pass
of
the
ISD
right.
So
basically
the
AG
will
say
hey.
This
chapter
is
good
for
us:
let's
make
it
too
big
to
the
complete
80s
and
other
parties.
So
what
weather
in
the
world
whether
it's
correct
so
I
would
hate
that
we
lose
this
confidence,
but
now,
if
it's
minor
stuff
at
and
nothing
is
Chris,
okay,
I,
don't.
C
Want
to
violence
to
it,
I
just
like
regulations,
and
there
were
two
phrases:
I
could
rewrite
to
clarify.
The
number
of
people
said:
you
know:
how
are
we
gonna
make
the
information
useful?
How
are
we
gonna
make
the
information
immediately
useful
and
actually
the
phrase
I
originally
used
was
immediately
actionable.
So
I
can
give
an
example
and
I
suggest
in
the
example,
but.
A
C
C
In
order
for
me
to
know
whether
I
need
to
shoot
this
thing
down,
maybe
I
need
to
talk
to
the
pilot
and
say
who
are
you
and
what
are
you
doing,
and
why
are
you
here
and
maybe
I
get
an
answer
from
the
pilot?
It
makes
clear
to
me
that
he's
someone
who
simply
confused
and
I
need
to
tell
them
to
turn
left
instead
of
30
right
or
maybe
I
get
a.
You
know,
an
indication
that
no
this
guy
is
is
is
malicious
in
nature.
C
One
of
the
fundamental
problems,
in
my
mind,
the
fundamental
problem
with
the
ASTM
approach.
It
gives
you
information
that,
not
only
can
you
not
know
who
said
it,
there's
no
signature,
but
you
can't
do
anything
with
it
quickly.
It
involves
human
eyeballs,
looking
at
the
screen,
a
human
picking
up
a
telephone
calling
somebody
who
may
or
may
not
answer
the
phone.
C
By
that
time,
a
malicious
aircraft
has
already
done
its
dirty
work
or
even
an
aircraft
that's
being
flown
by
someone
who's
confused
or
you
haven't,
had
the
opportunity
to
contact
them
and
say
no,
you
need
to
you
need
to
descend
200
feet
or
you
need
to
go
off
the
300
meter
without
there's
no
way
in
the
ASTM
standard
to
immediately
use
the
information
to,
for
instance,
communicate
with
the
guy.
So
that's
what
I
meant
by
immediately
actionable
or
immediately
useful.
You
ought
to
be
able
to
push
the
button
and
communicate
with
the
pilot
and
ASTM.
A
D
C
Over
broadcast
print
cast
red
unmanned
aircraft
itself,
transmits
directly
over
a
data
link
to
the
observer
device,
Network
red
the
unmanned
aircraft
system,
which
might
be
the
aircraft
itself
or
it
might
be,
to
ground
control
station
transmits
over
the
Internet
to
servers
then
store.
The
information
and
observer
devices
can
query
those
servers.
So
that
is
what
was
meant
by
those
which,
once
again,
in
the
interest
of
brevity
I,
didn't
write
out
that
whole
long
description.
A
Only
thing
I
understand
what
was
meant
there,
but
getting
directly
or
indirectly
brings
nothing
to
the
sentence
so
literally
like
this,
like
it
is
right
now,
no
in
this
sentence,
I
remove
directly
and
directly,
but
we
kept
locally
and
globally,
which
is
in
most
of
the
IDS
people.
It's
exactly
what
you
mean.
D
A
G
A
You
are
more
than
there
we
have
most
rarely
if
you
can
send
me
to
your
your
change
and
to
send
to
the
group,
so
it's
a
working
group
decision.
Finally,
the
protection
working
group
for
tomorrow
would
be
cool
and
basically
I'm,
going
on
the
vacation
on
organ
Saturday
morning
right,
so
it
should
be
Friday
and
of
my
business
day.
So
roughly
this
time.
D
I
A
Is
always
starting
from
the
outside?
Okay,
s
p.m.
to
say:
hey
di
ATS
is
done
by
the
AG,
but
is
the
ith
community
and
there
is
a
procedure.
I
did
you
look
about
IETF
three
years
old?
There
is
a
statement,
open
sales
statement
and
it's
basically
an
email
or
fax
pediments
and
an
email
right
telling
aim.
We
want
you
to
work
on
this
in
this
and
this.
For
this
reason,
blah
blah
blah
and
all
timeline
is
blah,
blah
blah
blah.
So.
I
C
H
C
G
G
B
B
H
H
E
A
G
F
D
H
G
C
Most
of
you
have
seen
this
one
before
all
I've
really
done
here
is
updated
it
to
say
that
the
European
Union
regulations
were
already
issued
and
they
become
effective
sometime
around
June
15th.
They
need
to
check
the
exact
date
in
the
NPRM
has
now
actually
an
issue.
The
comment
period
ends
March
1st.
Unless.
C
It
was
a
decision;
no,
it
was
a
little
less
I
heard
and
then
the
last
point
that
I
had
in
here
is
that
there's
gonna
be
a
long
lock
in
here.
This
isn't
something
that
we
can
get
right
the
day
after
they
issue
these
rules,
because
you
know
they're
gonna,
be
you
know
a
million
aircraft
made
to
the
rule
and
then
nobody's
gonna
want
to
be
told.
Oh
well,
we
changed
the
rules,
so
you
need
to
throw
away
your
aircraft
and
for
the
low-cost
one,
that's
really
what
it
will
be
is
thrown
away.
H
C
J
C
You
European
Aviation
Safety
right
from
Ryan
yeah
anyway,
they
moved
out
on
it
and
in
June
or
July
of
2019
issued
regulations
that
they
said
would
become
effective
when
you're
later,
and
they
also
left
themselves
some
wiggle
room
that
they,
you
know
we're
likely
to
make
some
changes
to
those
regulations,
but
they
have
in
fact
issued
regulations
and
what's
interesting
about
the
European
regulations.
Is
that,
unlike
the
FAA,
which
reversed
itself
on
broadcast
versus
Network,
the
EU
stuck
with
the
idea
that
broadcast
would
be
the
baseline?
C
They
also
are
only
allowing
the
use
of
a
static
manufacturer
assigned
hardware
serial
number
as
the
aircraft's
ID
and
there's
a
huge
problem
with
that,
because
even
if
that
ID
isn't
itself
personally
identifiable
information
and
even
if
that
ID
doesn't
allow
a
random
member
of
the
public
can
look
up
personally
identifiable
information.
What
it
does
is
allows
any
observer
to
correlate
patterns
of
use
patterns
of
life
and
see
that
this
particular
aircraft-
you
know
every
Monday
flies
to
McDonald's
and
then
to
Walmart
or
whatever,
and
you
know
we're
all
familiar
with
traffic
analysis.
C
H
So
the
expectation
is
that
we
focus
on
FAA
requirements
and
I
mean
I
mean
our
requirements
are
going
to
be
more
constrained,
I
mean
our
FAA
requirements.
The
requirements
who
we're
gonna
worked
on
for
a
technical
solution
are
gonna
match
those
of
the
EU,
and
one
of
the
reason
is
that
the
we
I
mean
the
FAA
has
more.
C
So
we'll
give
them
things
that
can
be
used
with
a
manufacturer
assigned
hardware
serial
number,
but
there
will
be
you
know,
consequences
of
that
choice
if
choice
it
is
or
consequences
of
being
in
a
jurisdiction
that
requires
you
to
do
it
that
way,
but
then
they'll
also
have
the
option
to
do
things
that
are
one-time
use.
Okay,.
H
C
You
know
different
classes
of
identifiers
and
I
mean
we've
already
got
both
broadcast
rid
and
network
ready
to
deal
with
you
kind
of
need
to
support
both
of
them
and
then
in
the
u.s..
Both
broadcast
and
network
rid
already
have
a
choice
of
two
different
types
of
identifiers.
It's
the
static
manufacturer
assigned
or
the
UTM
system
aside,
whereas
in
Europe
there's
there's
no
choice,
it's
just
the
manufacturer.
Sign.
H
C
C
This
just
sets
the
context
that
somebody
who's
on
the
ground
who's
looking
at
an
aircraft.
The
first
question
is:
can
they
identify
it
yes
or
no,
and
then,
if
they
can
identify
it,
they
may
be
able
to
classify
it
all.
This
is
one
that
I
can
task.
I
can
say.
Would
you
go?
Please
pick
up
a
quarter
bill
for
me,
or
is
this
one?
This
is
of
low
concern.
C
I
can't
ask
it
to
do
anything
for
me
other
than
maybe
in
an
emergency
situation
to
you
know
to
move
away
from
the
fire,
or
is
it
one
that's
of
high
concern
to
me
for
for
whatever
reason-
and
that's
that's
on
the
operator
to
do
that-
classification
we
are
enabling
him.
We
are
we're
facilitating
is
making
those
decisions
through
the
information
that
we
provide
to
them
and
TM
has
taken
the
position
that
remote
ID
is
an
application.
It
is
an
end
in
itself
and
it's
there
to
provide
you
an
ID
and
then
happy.
C
H
So
you
will
listen
to
an
ID
and
then
how
do
you
do
you
make
a
request
for
for
to
reach
Authority
associate
to
do
the
ID
or
do
you
say
I
want
to
to
breach
I
mean
if
it's
a
low
concern,
you
probably
have
a
local
regulation.
If
it's
a
high
concern,
you
might
talk
to
the
pilot
directly
or
is
that
something
like
that
or
you
say
I
want
to
talk
to
this
idea
with
this
kind
of
level
of
importance.
I
think.
C
It
was
I
think
it
was
your
next
to
last
suggestion
that
if
something
is
of
high
concern,
then
I
probably
want
to
contact
the
pilot
and
directly
from
the
pilot,
get
a
sense
of
whether
I
should
be
afraid,
and
that
goes
back
to
my
whole
point
about
immediately,
actionable
or
immediately
useful.
If
we
can
use
this
identity
to
them
to
reach
out
and
touch
the
pilot.
C
That's
great!
Now
you
don't
want
everybody
who's
in
the
park.
Who's
annoying
with
the
buzzing
drones
to
be
able
to
reach
out
bother
the
pilot.
There
needs
to
be
some
sort
of
access
control,
some
sort
of
gateway
on
this
bit
of
that
connection,
but
you
know
that's
something:
we've
done
before.
We
do
that.
Okay,.
H
C
You
you
get
an
ID
and
then
assuming
that
you
have
internet
connectivity,
you
use
that
Internet
connectivity
to
look
up
information
based
upon
that
ID
and
that's
human
eyeballs.
Looking
at
the
screen
and
then
based
upon
the
information
you
find
in
the
registration
record,
you
pick
up
a
phone
or
you
type,
a
letter
in
your
word
processor
and
you
send
it
off
in
the
bail
to
say,
cease
and
desist,
and-
and
the
point
is
that
none
of
these
are
remediated
right.
All
of
these.
They
may
be
good
for
an
inquest
about.
C
G
C
G
G
C
H
B
C
The
EU
defines
tier
0,
1
2
&
3
here
0
are
really
small,
slow,
short-range
lightweight
things
that
are
regarded
as
presenting
a
negligible
threat,
and
so
essentially
no
remote
ID
requirement
is
levied
on
visit
end
of
the
scale
tier
3
are
big
fast.
They
fly
high
long
ranges
easily,
weaponized,
etc,
and
they
say
that's
not
in
the
scope
of
remote
ID
either,
because
we're
gonna
fly
those
with
a
DSB
automatic
dependent
surveillance
mode
B,
which
is
what
is
used
by
larger,
manned
aircraft.
C
C
Tour,
two
is
bigger,
tier
1
can
use
either
broadcast
or
network
remote
ID
tier
2
must
use
both
rods
now
network
remote
ID,
and
then
the
FAA
narrows
it
down
still
further
to
say
that
in
the
equivalent
of
the
e
use
tier
1,
you
must
use
specifically
Network
use
broadcast
and
that's
one
of
the
things
that
they're
getting
a
lot
of
pushback
on
that
goes
way
above
our
pay
grade
will
provide
mechanisms
that
can
be
used.
However,
that
battle
ends
up
and.
D
To
answer
your
question
on
the
types
of
drones,
specifically
physically,
there
really
hasn't
been
that
much
of
a
focus,
its
kind
of
been
broad
I
mean
you
have
DJI
coming
in.
So
you
have
consumer
grade
drones
being
part
of
this
and
because
of
the
FAA
regulations,
any
drone
over
0.55
pounds
well
under
55,
but
under
55
pounds
is
regulated
under
the
FAA
to.
C
Remote
ID
Society
stays
under
400
feet
and
it
flies
under
400
feet.
It
has
to
be
treated
like
a
big
man,
aircraft
yeah.
So
now
this
all
said
be
a
wicker
that
there
is
an
emerging.
You
will
find
it
in
writing,
but
you'll
hear
it
in
the
conference
hallways
consensus
that
UTM
the
unmanned
aircraft
system.
Traffic
management
is
the
future
of
a-t-m
air
traffic
management
that
the
lessons
that
we
are
learning
with
small
unmanned
aircraft
are
going
to
be
the
basis
of
the
next
generation
of
air
traffic
control
for
all
aircraft.
C
B
But
I
agree
we
needed
to
do
it
right,
but
we
know,
however,
is
slow
right
me,
the
future.
The
ETM
won't
be
happy
in
next
10
years.
That's
what
I
guessing!
So
if
we
do
it
like
four
near
4c
future
and
its
couple
years,
see
how
UTM
works
you
know,
I
would
not
think
if
the
other
organization
think
ATM
will
be
future
soon.
So
this
is
one
of
my
concerns
and
other
things
I.
It's
related
to
the
type
of
jobs
that
I'm
asking
it's.
B
C
Misconception
broadcast
remote
ID
under
the
FAA
rules.
The
broadcast
must
come
directly
from
the
unmanned
aircraft.
However,
in
network
remote
ID
under
the
FAA
is
proposed
rules.
The
information
has
to
come
from
the
unmanned
aircraft
system.
The
distinction
between
the
UA
in
the
UAS
is
that
the
UAS
includes
the
ground
control
station,
so
in
other
words,
if
I'm
out
there
in
the
park
and
I'm
flying
around
and
I'm,
using
all
my
tablet
or
my
smartphone
to
control
the
aircraft.
C
G
G
F
C
C
Okay,
the
FAA
NPRM,
instead
of
looking
at
things
as
broadcast
and
network,
looks
at
them
primarily
as
standard
or
limited
standard
is
for
the
bigger
craft.
Well,
bigger
is
for
the
small
aircraft
they
have
to
be
operating
within
visual
line
of
sight
of
the
etc
and
the
limited
is
going
to
be
network
only
and
it's
not
just
that
you're
required
to
do
Network
and
you
can
do
broadcast.
If
you
want
to
or
not
know
broadcast
is
actually
prohibited.
C
You
must
do
the
network
and
you
must
only
do
network
if
you're
operating
under
the
limited
rules
and
it
gives
the
location
of
the
pilot,
not
the
location
of
the
aircraft.
There
are
two
ID
types,
ASTM
actually
to
find
three.
Nobody
is
using
type
to
see
the
serial
number
type,
one
or
so
one
time
use
UTM
assigned
ID
type.
Three
next
I.
C
Won't
drill
down
into
these,
but
anybody
who
really
wants
to
stare
at
them.
This
gives
you
an
idea
of
what
the
FAA
is
thinking
right
now
for
how
what
I
need
fits
into
the
overall
UAS
traffic
management
next
and
this
just
drills
down
a
little
bit
into
specific
use
cases
that
the
FAA
was
looking
at
one
of
them
network
oriented
one
of
them
broadcast
oriented
next.
C
This
one
now
shows
you
how
broadcast
and
network
kind
of
come
together.
This
is
not
broadcast
or
what
ID
and
network
from
what
I
need
coming
together.
This
is
broadcast
remote,
ID
and
then
the
use
of
networks
do
the
lookups
and
then
to
perhaps
do
anything
with
the
information
you
found
once
you
get
the
lookup,
the
ID
is
coming
strictly
over
broadcast.
C
C
Where
has
ASTM
specifies
the
way,
the
framing
with
indications.
They
have
not
any
kind
of
authentication
methods,
both
of
them
give
a
nod
to
the
idea
of
protecting
privacy.
Neither
one
of
them
gives
you
any
suggestions
on
how
to
protect
operator
privacy.
As
a
matter
of
fact,
some
of
them
require
you
to
do
things
that
are,
you
know
directly,
contrary
to
maintaining
operator
privacy.
Next.
C
Okay,
so
if
we're
gonna
make
this
immediately
actionable,
that
implies
three
sub
goals
use
race.
It's
got
to
be
trustworthy.
If
I'm
going
to
use
this
information
to
decide
whether
to
shoot
somebody
down
or
not
it
better,
be
good
information.
We
need
to
verify
the
UAS.
Is
it
a
registry
and
if
we
can
say
which
registry
it's
in
now,
we
can
have
registries
of
good
guys
and
bad
guys.
C
If
you
will
now
different
observers
are
gonna
have
different
notions
of
who's,
a
good
guy
who's,
a
bad
guy,
so
they're
gonna
trust
different
registries,
but
if
I
take,
for
instance,
the
perspective
of
the
US
Air
Force.
If
the
Air
Force
runs
a
registry
and
I'm
in
the
Air
Force's
registry,
well,
then
the
Air
Force
must
have
decided
that
I'm
a
good
guy,
whereas
if
I'm
in
the
registry
that
most
people
use
when
they
bought
a
drone
waller.
C
Well
then,
the
Air
Force,
probably
won't
consider
me
to
be
necessarily
a
good
guy
and
all
they
need
to
know
is
which
registry
I'm
in
and
that's
something
that
can
be
accomplished
using
the
method
that
we've
been
pursuing
without
the
observer
having
internet
connectivity
at
that
time
and
then
finally,
the
thing
that
we're
really
adding
that
goes
way
beyond
what
FAA,
EU
or
STM
is
equally
at.
Is
you
know
the
one
button
establish
communications
with
a
pilot,
so
we
could
ask
him
to
get
the
hell
out
of
God's.
C
These
are
what
I
think
are
the
general
requirements
not
for
UAS,
read
40m
rid
to
support
UAS
RIT
right,
there's
a
lot
other
you
answered
requirements
like
anti-tamper
and
so
on
that
go
beyond
where
we
live,
but
this
is
what
I
think
it
makes
sense
for
its.
You
have
to
be
doing
stuff
to
support
UAS
right
now.
This
list
is
probably
incomplete,
I
hope
other
people
will
scrutinize
it
and
tell
me
what
I
left
out
now,
the
last
paragraph
there
that's
not
a
number
of
acquirement,
it's
not
a
requirement,
but
it
is
highly
desirable.
C
E
C
All
I
mean
by
that
is
that
the
sender
will
have
an
ID
that
he
is
broadcasting,
and
the
sender
will
also
be
signing
messages
that
he
sends
it
will
be
able
to
verify
that
these
signatures
correspond
to
the
asserted
ID.
Now
whether
the
ID
is
really
Adam.
Whitaker
is
not
something
that
can
be
addressed
at
that
level.
That
needed
to
be
addressed
in
the
registry
that
before
they
registered
that
ID
for
him,
you
know
they
wanted
to
take
his
blood
type
and
know
his
mother's
name.
Whatever
else
so.
C
If
we
observer
identify
which
registry
and
aircraft
is
in
as
well
as
you
know,
which
ID
number
does
he
have
within
that
registry,
then
all
he
needs
to
do
is
look
at
what
are
that
registries
vetting
procedures?
If
he
is
satisfied
with
the
registries
letting
procedures,
then
he
has
confidence
in
this
ID.
If
he's
not
satisfied
with
the
registries
vetting
procedures,
he
can.
You
know,
act
on
that
information.
I'm.
C
H
One
thing
I
think
with
the
requirement:
we
should
use
the
the
IETF
language.
We
should
must
this
kind
of
thing,
so
there
will
be
some
that
does
not
prevent
you
to
discuss
those,
but
at
the
end
there
are
probably
some
different
level
of
requirements
and
that
I
think
using
the
the
ITF
language
might
be
useful.
C
C
Okay,
good
okay:
now
these
are
requirements,
not
aunty
hundred
methods,
but
on
identifiers,
it's
gotta
be
20.
Bytes
are
smaller
to
fit
within
a
standard
and
FAA,
and
you
like
a
standard
and
the
reason
it
has
to
be
20
bytes.
Is
they
gotta
fit
within
a
Bluetooth
4.0
X
packet
after
various
overheads,
then
fundamentally
want
to
identify
what
registry
is
this
guy
in
and
then
we
need
but
unique
key
within
that
registry
to
look
up
information
specifically
about
this
guy.
Mr.
C
cracker,
now
the
scope
within
which
uniqueness
is
required
is
I,
think
a
subject
for
some
study
and
discussion
and
then
requirement
number
five.
It's
unfortunate
that
Bach
had
to
leave
because
he
wrote
that
one
and
I'm
not
entirely
clear
on
exactly
what
he
meant
by
it.
I
captured
it
in
my
requirements.
Draft
I
really
need
to
to
have
further
discussions
with
table
to
find
out
exactly
what
he
meant
and
I
might
want
to
reword
it
a
little
bit
so
it'll
be
clear
to
everyone.
Okay,
those
last
three
bullets
are
not
numbered
requirements
on
the
identifier.
C
I
didn't
really
know
how
to
represent
them.
We
don't
want
to
facilitate
adversarial
correlation
of
the
OAS
operational
patterns,
maybe
one
more
than
one
way
to
do
that.
The
most
obvious
way
is
the
FAA
adoption
of
SDM
type
three,
each
other.
The
fire
will
be
used,
one
time
and
one
time
only,
but
the
problem
is
when
you
consider
that
there's
I
have
any
idea
how
many
small
drones
are
out
there
already
flying
around.
J
C
I'm
gonna
guess
it's
upwards
of
a
million
already
right,
it's
certainly
in
the
hundreds
of
thousands,
at
least
if
people
are
doing
one
time
use
identifier
x'.
In
order
to
avoid
this
adversarial
correlation,
then
we've
really
got
to
have
scalable
timely
registration
methods.
For
oh
I
got
a
new
idea.
I
got
a
new
idea
to
do
ID,
then
the
next
bullet.
We
need
to
be
able
to
prove
ownership
of
a
claimed
ID.
B
B
There's
a
one
hunter
little
controversial
comments
from
public
inception.
If
everybody
gonna
have
to
pay
money
to
USS
the
subscription
in
order
to
fly
or
June,
so
on
top
of
the
pressure
he
asserted,
that
will
be
for
now
he's
one
point,
meaning
one
point:
five,
meaning
Jones
registered.
That's
right!
C
C
Alright,
all
my
co-workers,
our
fleet,
Rome
yeah,
regarding
I'm,
regarding
that
issue
of
who
does
this
vetting
and
how
good
is
the
vetting
and
what
is
it
coffee?
You
get
done
it
and
end
up
in
the
registry
as
once
again
a
little
above
my
pay
grade,
but
I
think
we
can
provide
methods
that
could
be
used
by
an
entity.
That's
going
to
be
performing
that
process.
E
These
are
requiring
that
no
money
comes
from
the
aviation
community,
nobody
body
could
be
flown
without,
we
know
who
they
are
and
they
have
to
be
registers
like
enough
men
in
aircraft
today.
Obviously,
this
is
divided
by
areas
like,
depending
on
the
error.
You
are
flying.
Yeah
you're
gonna
have
to
be
registered
in
you're,
gonna
have
to
broadcast
your
ID
or
you
don't
fly
simple
like
that.
Save
Theresa's.
K
C
H
C
C
C
H
That
would
be
a
good
way
to
speed
up
things.
So
the
thing
is
what
I'd
like
is
that
we
were
able
to
to
convey
some
people
to
discuss
the
requirements
and
see
how
much
we're
ready
for
that
requirements.
I
think
a
goal
would
be
that
after
the
ITF
we
sent
a
working
group
last
call
for
their
requirements.
H
C
H
Would
be
that's
something
we
should
target
so
we
should
not
I
mean
the
thing
is
that
we
should
try
to
convey
to
people
right
now,
instead
of
waiting
for
the
meeting
and
then
starting
asking
those
people
to
get
involved.
So
I
think
the
requirement
document
looks
pretty
advanced
to
me,
and
so
it
might
be
time
we
can
use
yeah
people
say
if,
if
you
disagree,
say
whether
you
disagree
it's
time
to
say
it
so
I
think
that's
something
we
should
try
to
advertise
them,
maybe
as
soon
as
a
working
with
forum,
but
we
could
try.
C
H
One
thing
is
the
ITF
language
and
the
other
one
is
a
people
sort
of
agree
on
that.
So
I
think
that
would
be
good.
We
should
try.
I
mean
there
were
some
interesting
people
in
the
first
meeting
in
Singapore,
so
I'm
thinking
people
from
Mozilla.
They
were
pretty
much
concerned
about
the
privacy,
so
those
one
should
be
would
be
good.
They
provide
some
feedbacks
and
the
other
person
from
New
Zealand
Andrew
yeah.
H
H
K
H
C
Yeah
I
know
it's
a
common
problem
and
the
mistake
to
get
the
architecture
before
the
requirements,
but
that's
kind
of
what
we've
done
here,
at
least
in
terms
of
documenting
them.
I
think
the
requirements
were
pretty
well
but
implicitly
understood
by
the
people
working
in
UAS,
remote
ID,
because
they
were
largely
you
know,
laid
out
by
the
FAA,
a
V
agent,
rulemaking
committee
and
so
on
exactly
yeah.
H
Yeah
this,
so
this
document
is
going
to
be
probably
informational
anyway,
but
a
way
to
move
data,
we're
ahead,
ISM,
it's
a
good
start
and
I,
don't
know
if
having
the
architecture
pretty
much
advanced
to
me,
it
looks
like
we're
moving
things
ahead,
so
maybe
that's
going
to
help
the
people
to
to
get
involved
too.
So
I
don't
think
there
is
an
older
or
specific
holder
into
that.
So
right,
I
think
so.
The
exciting
plan
is
that
send
me
the
minutes
and
we
should
try
to
contact
other
people
to
get
more
review
on
the
requirements.
J
H
A
And
don't
forget
as
well
to
send
me
the
your
update
or
your
is
a
reference
I
guess
it's
what
you
are
meaning
for
the
Charter
and
once
you
get
a
charter
that
can
we
can
create
the
group
and
then
we
can
add
up
the
document
and
then
we
can
request
application.
It
would
be
cool
to
put
meeting
in
the
the
minute
meetings
into
the
material
for
the
meeting.
This
way
right.
Okay,.