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From YouTube: IETF-CELLAR-20220524-1900
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CELLAR meeting session at IETF
2022/05/24 1900
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting//proceedings/
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That,
since
we're
such
a
small
group
that
there's
another
mute
button
on
the
lower
right,
the
mute
button,
the
mic
button
on
the
upper
left
asks
to
speak
and
then
sets
up
the
audio
channel
and
the
mute
button
on
the
lower
right
is
just
a
local
mute.
That
turns
your
mute
on
and
off.
So
I
just
use
that
one
for
now
and
since
we're
such
a
generally
such
a
small
group
and
leave
the
other
one
open.
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B
Yeah,
so
we
try
to
do
that
actually
with
our
ad
one
answer
is
that
we
don't?
We
can't
really
change
the
milestones
on
our
own.
We
have
to
ask
our
ads
to
approve
them,
so
it's
a
bit
of
a
high
latency
activity,
but
we
can
discuss
milestones
as
a
group
and
update
them
in
the
minutes.
It
just
takes
some
time.
Also.
Our
area
director
has
been
on
a
month
of
leave.
I
think
he's
back
now.
Officially
yeah.
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B
Yes,
that
needs
to
happen
so
flack
was
posted
a
few
weeks
ago.
Matraska
was
posted
and
it's
been
updated
after
working
group
last
call,
and
that
is
I'm
sorry,
that
is
my
fault
and
spencer's
fault.
We're
supposed
to
review
it,
and
I
know
I
haven't
done
a
lot
and
I
blame
my
ear
infection.
But
there
you
go
tags
chapter
and
control
they're
in
a
state
of
status,
so
I
think
that's,
okay,.
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B
Okay,
good
all
right,
so
I
just
want
to
capture
this
as
a
into
the
minutes
here.
So
what
I
heard
you
also
say
so,
if
for
mp3
you're
wondering
whether
or
not
there
should
be
entries,
so
if
we
need
to
add
it
may
be
that
we
need
to
add
new
entries
into
an
iana
registry
is
what
I
hear
you're
saying
they
won't
be
there.
D
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A
I
don't
think
it
should
be
included
in
the
itf
documents
from
what
I
saw
it's
it's
document
that
exists.
That
would
describe
the
mp4
mapping,
but
basically
it's
not
well
it's
official,
because
it's
xiv,
but
it
was
never
integrated
properly
anywhere.
So
I
don't
think
it's
I
mean
if
we
want
to
describe
what
currently
exists.
B
Okay,
and
so
the
itf
is
not
authoritative
for
mp4,
but
as
you're
saying
is,
that
apple
is
and
there's
someone
that
we
could
ask
for
this,
so
whether
we
ask
them
the
now
and
point
them
at
our
internet
draft,
which
is
going
to
become
an
rfc
at
some
point
or
whether
we
ask
them
well
so
the
advantage
about
that
is
that
now
we
could
actually
list
the
the
that
value
in
the
rfc.
So
that
would
be
better.
B
But
if
they're
not
happy
with
that,
then
we
would
have
to
ask
them
to
allocate
a
number
and
then,
at
the
last
moment
we
may
be
able
to
slide
it
into
the
rfc
just
before
it's
published.
So
I
would
say
either
way
put
me
in
the
cc
and
we'll
figure
out
how
to
do
it,
because
presumably
those
apple
people
probably
have
some
connection
to
or
some
knowledge
about,
that
the
the
ietf
exists,
and
so
we
can
figure
it
out.
If
not,
there
are
some
apple
people.
C
Yeah,
I
think
you
know
I'm
extrapolating
from
things
that
I
know
about
that
are
not
apple,
but
I
would
assume
that
that
the
nice
people
at
apple
would
have
some
idea
of
you
know
like
what
what
are
they
looking
for
in
order
to
justify
allocating
something
you
know.
Basically,
you
know
like
we.
You
know
we
have
some
registries
that
don't
even
require
a
specification.
C
We
have
some
registries
that
require
an
itf
standards
track
document.
You
know
so
there's
a
yeah
there's
a
whole
range
of
things
that
you
can
ask
for
when
you're
running
a
registry,
but
just
to
you
know
tell
them.
This
is
what
we
got
and
and
do
we
you
know
what
do
what
do
we
need
to
do
next?
You
know.
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B
In
the
rfc
publication
process
called
off
48
and
it's
basically
everything's
done,
but
it
button
hasn't
been
pushed
and
so
the
very
worst
case
if
they
want
to
see
that
the
document
is
really
stable,
is
really
about
to
be
published.
Then
at
that
point
we
can
quite
reasonably
say.
Yes,
it
really
is
fully
reviewed
and
published
and
please
allocate
a
number
but
probably
they're
willing
to
allocate
it
before
that
point.
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B
It's
not
necessary.
If
we
can't
do
it,
then
we
won't
do
it,
we
won't,
we
won't
get
stuck
on
it.
All
I'm
saying
is
that
if
there's
a
if,
if,
if
it's
a
reasonable
thing
to
say
that
we
should
ask
for
this
allocation
for
our
stable
specification
of
flack,
then
let's
do
that
right
and
if
we
can't
do
it
because
something
whatever
we're
missing
something,
then
maybe
we
won't
do
it
and
and
steve
is
right:
it's
not
it's
not
technically
part
of
flack,
but
it's
good
to
connect.
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I
think
it's
useful
for
us
to
acknowledge
that
we're
not
going
to
make
july.
Okay,
let's
have
the
conversation
of
what's
realistic,
and
but
I
don't
I
agree,
we
don't
have
to
have
it
right
now,
yeah.
I
think
that
that
probably
need
to
read
the
document
again
and
figure
out
how
close
we
are
to
done
and
then
throw
that
at
someone
else.
Yeah.
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I
should
have
come
to
have
beer
with
some
of
you
last
week
because
I
was
in,
I
was
in
the
netherlands
below
I
did
stop
for
beer
with
several
other
people
I
haven't
met
before
so
maybe
may
have
met
my
my
quota,
for
I
did.
I
did
mess
up
with
my
ov
chip
card
and-
and
I
did
it
didn't
it
didn't
tap
in
twice
twice.
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B
Slow
to
arrive
into
their
database
from
you
know
from
stations
that
maybe
don't
have
intermittent
connectivity
or
something,
and
so
so.
The
point
is
that
I
I
paid
20
euros
three
times
for
what
should
be
a
three
euro
trip
and-
and
they
can
apparently
give
me
that
money
back,
but
I
have
to
come
and
bother
them
later
on
in
the
next
two
years.
So
that's
good
but
wow.
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B
Right:
okay,
all
right
good,
let's
say
goodbye
and
talk
again
online
and
thank
you,
martin
and
steve
and
michael
for
all
the
work
and,
let's,
I
think,
we'll
make
that's
it
spencer
and
I
need
to
do
some
reading.
And
I
know
that
I
didn't
do
it
because
I'm
because
I
was
supposed
to
be
doing
it
on
the
train
and
I
just
didn't
do
it
because
it
didn't
happen.