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From YouTube: Internet Society Board Open Forum Call
Description
20 June 2018, video conference
A
Okay,
let's,
let's
start
hi
everyone
and
welcome
it's
my
pleasure
to
welcome
you
all
and
to
the
Internet
Society
open
a
board
forum.
This
is
our
fifth
open
world
forum.
As
you
know,
we
started
with
this
exercise
back
in
2016
and
my
name
is
Desiree
ostrich
I'm,
one
of
the
board,
trustees
and
I'll
be
a
moderator
for
this
session,
and
I
will
do
that
together
with
James
Woods,
the
chief
communications
officer
of
the
internet
society.
So
I'll
pass
you
on
to
James
who
can
give
you
some
housekeeping
rules.
B
B
The
format
of
the
call
will
be
based
around
a
short
presentation
given
by
Desiree
and
other
trustees,
followed
by
three
open
questions
to
community
members.
If,
at
any
point,
you
wish
to
speak
to
either
ask
a
question
or
to
respond
to
something
in
the
call,
please
type
the
word
hand
into
the
zoom
chat
box.
You
will
find
the
chat
button
at
the
bottom
of
your
zoom
screen
and,
and
then
either
myself
or
Desiree
will
be
able
to
place
you
into
the
queue
to
ask
that
question.
B
If
you
wish
to
type
a
question
or
respond
to
the
board
in
the
chat
itself,
please
do
so
if
you
could
include
your
name
and
your
country,
the
country
that
you're
from
that
would
be
very
helpful
and
feel
free
also
to
write
anything
in
either
French
or
Spanish.
We
do
have
a
translation
person,
who's
able
to
translate
on
hand
who
can
translate
your
questions
and
responses
back
into
English
for
discussion.
So
if
that
is
clear,
I
will
hand
back
to
Desiree
for
us
to
get
started
with
the
agenda.
Does
your
a.
A
C
My
name
is
Olga
Cavalli
I
am
from
Argentina
and
I
am
a
member
of
the
Board
of
Trustees
elected
by
chapters
and
I'm
very
glad
to
see
more
than
111
participants.
This
is
remarkable,
then
I
want
to
thank
this
array
for
organizing
the
the
open
forum
and
also
the
support
from
our
staff.
That
has
been
great.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
D
E
A
I
really
have
a
question:
I
mean
the
chatroom.
Could
the
Board
of
Trustees
also
say
what
they
do
outside
of
the
board
and
so
I
think
that's
a
question.
Looking
for
more
trustees
online,
not
hearing
anyone
else,
I
believe
the
the
rest
of
them
may
join
us
as
and
I
can
see.
Kathy
is
online
she's,
a
trustee
and
CEO,
and
the
president.
A
Hello
good
to
see
you
thanks
Kathy,
so
before
we
go
into
the
survey
results,
I
recommend
that
if
any
time
you
want
to
raise
your
hand
and
just
interrupt
and
introduce
yourself
again,
we'd
like
to
really
have
a
very
brief
update
of
what
the
Board
of
Trustees
have
been
doing
in
the
last
12
months,
and
so
we
have
highlighted
some
of
the
activities,
not
all
of
them.
Just
to
give
you
a
brief
update
and
I
would
pass
the
mic
and
to
the
chairman
of
the
board
Gonzalo
Maria.
A
G
G
G
So
yeah
to
to
tell
the
community
very
briefly
that
we
are
I
mean
we
have
been
sending
out
emails
every
now
and
then
so
that
you
know
to
keep
everyone
updated.
At
this
point
we
are
very
much
advanced
into
the
process
and
we
have
been
having
several
stages
where
we
have
been
screening
candidates
and
as
I
said,
you
know,
we
are
very
much
advanced
and
our
plan
is
to
announce
the
new
CEO
either
at
the
AGM
next
week.
That's
quite
aggressive
or
shortly
thereafter.
G
A
D
D
So
this
paper,
which
is
called
operational
principles
or
ice
or
Pierre,
are
operating
procedures,
was
created
just
detailing
how
we
work
together
and
in
the
end
we
didn't
change
anything
in
the
bylaws.
We
didn't
change
any
real
central
thing.
It's
just
a
paper
giving
some
detailed
information
how
we
work
together
and
how
we
continue
and
just
to
give
you
an
impression.
Pir
is
continuing
being
a
very
good
contributor.
D
A
F
I
guess
they're
trying
to
figure
out
how
they're
gonna
pick
the
board
and
arrangements
and
how
everything's
gonna
be
all
connected,
and
you
know:
there's
been
boss
and
there's
a
working
group.
Now
that's
been
formed
to
look
at
this
and
do
a
study
and
we're
hoping
that
this
is
all
gonna
come
to
conclusion
here
in
the
next
six
months,
or
so
maybe
quicker.
A
A
Why
we
all
here
so
a
really
good
segue
would
be
to
thank
everyone
who
has
filled
in
our
survey
for
this
open
board
session
and
just
to
give
you
a
few
updates
for
those
people
who
were
not
able
to
to
seat
when
it
was
posted
a
couple
of
days
ago
on
the
on
the
website,
so
you
might
have
not
able
to
find
it
that
I
would
ask
Dan
or
Kevin
to
put
the
slides
up.
Please.
A
A
A
A
So
one
of
the
questions
we
have
asked
was
really.
If
you
wish
to
say
it
only
was
how
were
you
connected
to
iStock
and
you
will
see
from
the
responses
that
we
had.
We
had
about
six
hundred
and
fourteen
responses
and
who
have
completed
the
survey,
which
is
actually
about
1.5
percent
of
our
registered
members
of
the
Internet
Society.
A
But
if
you
look
at
the
split
to
the
chapter
members,
we
have
three
hundred
and
forty-six
responses,
which
is
more
than
we
have
chapters
means
we
have
active
individual
members
and
chapters
and
significantly
from
the
special
interest
groups.
There
were
53
people
who
responded
to
survey
and
if
you
look
at
the
organizational
members
that
we
have
where
there
are
about
150
or
more
organizational
members
of
the
Internet
Society,
some
43
responded
for
the
stand
to
deserve
a
1/3,
and
we
also
had
some
notable
guests
31.
You
can
see.
A
We
also
have
board
members
replying
to
the
survey
I
staff,
the
leaders
of
the
youth
IGF
fellow
former
trustees
guests,
who
are
outside
of
our
community
as
well
as
some
IGF
mag
members
next
slide.
Would
we
also
ask
you
I
think
this
was
a
continuation
of
the
efforts
that
her
staff
has
undertaken
some
long
time
ago
to
look
at
the
topics
for
the
digital
future.
So
these
questions,
where
are
the
topics,
were
quite
long
and
you
couldn't
have
picked
all
of
them?
A
Some
of
the
notable
others
said
that
education
was
something
that
I
saw
definitely
pay
attention
through
and
thinking
of
their
strategy
going
forwards,
as
well
as
consolidation.
I
think
this
is
a
network
consolidation
issued
that
came
up
as
well
I
think
slightly,
and
we
did
ask
the
subject
of
interest
that
you
wish
to
discuss
with
us.
A
Also,
some
of
you
might
have
some
other
suggestions
and
and
some
what
they
was
encouraging,
saying
that
someone
should
take
the
leadership
for
the
public
and
it's
a
good
way
to
engage.
So
after
this
forum.
I
think
we
will
reassess
as
well
a
next
slide,
please
as
to
how
you
wish
to
engage
with
us
and
how
the
board
engages
with
the
community.
Obviously,
the
board
is
not
involved
in
any
problem.
Any
programmatic,
then
feedback,
but
more
in
it
we're
interested
in
a
more
of
a
strategic
vision.
A
That
would
work
for
everyone
and
for
some
reason,
this
timing
fit
between
15
and
1800
UTC
showed
up
as
the
most
favorable,
and
that's
that's
why
we
have
scheduled
this
opportunity
for
you
to
raise
issues
and
give
feedback
in
this
time
frame.
Next
slide.
Please,
to
summarize,
we
believe
from
what
we
have
heard
back,
that
there
is
an
overwhelming
interest
and
that
you
would
like
to
engage
with
us
in
a
form
or
shape
of
a
forum.
A
A
We
go
straight
into
the
questions
and
we'll
start
again
with
the
one
we
had
in
the
survey
for
those
of
you
who
had
no
chance
opportunity
to
answer
is
what
strategic
vision
or
feedback
we'd
like
to
bring
towards
attention,
because
the
challenges
facing
the
Internet
are
enormous
and
our
resources
aren't
endless
so
I
open
it
up
for
the
floor.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
J
Okay,
I'm
from
India
and
I,
think
there
are
many
chapters
and
which
are
already
listed
on
website,
but
those
are
not
since
active,
like
website
is
also
not
well
established
to
connect
with
the
chapter
lead.
So
I
was
just
sitting
that,
after
confirming
from
the
chapter,
can
we
put
that
in
our
pipe?
So
it
won't
be
create
a
bad
impact
like
we
have
so
many
chapters
but
like
if
any
person
think
that
half
of
the
chapter
is
not
active,
I'm
not.
A
I
K
Thank
you
for
organizing
this
and
I
had
a
question
about
the
recent
announcement
from
AI.
So
can
I
think
at
the
same
time,
a
topic
that
falls
under
the
category
of
challenges
and
in
the
internet
that
you
were
asking
you
about,
and
my
question
relates
the
partnership
between
Isaac
and
consumers,
international,
which
was
basically
about
focusing
on
ensuring
that
consumers
get
good
secure.
K
My
question
is
if
the
idea
is
to
include
the
broader
context
in
this
effort-
or
perhaps
it's
addressed
by
other
Isaac
programs
and
and
I,
obviously
also
think
that
this
is
an
important
topic,
at
least
from
my
perspective,
and
worth
some
focus
on
science
whyzard.
It
goes
the
heart
of
ensuring
that
users
get
the
benefits
that
they
need
and
deserve
from
the
infinite.
So
that's
what
I
had.
A
You,
okay,
so
there's
no
immediate
response.
I
think
one
of
the
way
to
follow
up
with
all
the
questions
that
we
get
today
is
to
do
a
written
follow-up
so
that
your
questions,
e-mail
to
us
could
also
be
answered
at
once
and
to
give
you
some
time
frame
as
well.
I
would
think
that
probably
three
to
four
weeks
might
be
the
bearing
in
mind,
and
the
trustees
are
meeting
next
week
and
a
couple
of
weeks
in
and
for
the
AGM
would
be
an
appropriate
timeframe
to
send
some
of
the
responses
back.
B
B
C
You
James,
can
you
hear
me
well
yeah?
Thank
you.
I
would
like
to
respond
to
the
lady
that
spoke
from
India
about
the
chapters
not
being
active,
I,
think
they
accept
really
challenging.
Sometimes
you
know
the
chapters
are
run
by
volunteers.
So
what
we
are
experiencing
in
Latin
America
is
a
very
good
work
done
by
staff
and
trying
to
gather
chapters
together
follow-up,
what
they
are
doing
and
trying
to
help
them
in
in
moving
forward.
C
It's
always
challenging,
as
I
said,
because
it's
volunteer
work,
but
I
suggested
that
you
get
in
touch
with
the
the
person
of
the
stuff
in
in
I.
Think
that
you
can
get
them
the
name
here
and
in
the
chat
from
our
colleagues
from
ICANN
stuff
and
and
see
the
feedback
they
can
give
you
about
that.
But
I
have
seen
a
really
a
very,
very
good
result
of
the
reinforcing
and
rejuvenation
of
many
chapters
and
reorganizing
them
and
I'm,
following
up
with
their
with
their
work
from
especially
from
staff.
A
L
Yes,
hi
everyone
can
you
hear
me?
Okay,
yes,
so
I'm
in
Toronto
Canada,
but
a
mother
I'm,
a
dual
French
and
Canadian
citizen
and
I'm
quite
happy
to
see
you
all
here.
It's
interesting
I've
been
following
the
internet
society
for
15
years,
just
through
emails,
it's
the
first
time
I've
joined
a
meeting
like
this,
so
I'm
just
a
concerned,
digital
citizen,
you
know
someone
who's
concerned
with.
L
What's
going
on
with
the
internet,
who's
worked
with
Media
as
a
from
a
business
point
of
view
from
a
digital
marketing
point
of
view
and
whose
embarked
on
doing
some
of
what
I
see
I
think
Olga,
looking
at
her
bio
has
done,
which
is
to
try
and
educate
both
small
business
owners
and
also
I,
think
individuals
and
on
how
to
really
leverage
the
internet
positively
in
their
everyday
lives,
and
so
I
guess
I'm
just
curious
what
how
I
can
contribute.
It
seems
quite
complex
to
for
us
to
to
try
and
leverage
our
common
resources
here.
L
What
I
see
as
a
challenge?
Listening
looking
at
your
reports
and
listening
to
the
various
comments
is:
how
do
we
make
the
link
with
the
private
sector
and
who
is
going
at
a
pace?
The
Facebook's
and
the
googles
are
going
at
a
pace
that
is
unprecedented
and
so
I
guess.
My
question
is:
how
do
we
and
yeah
to
respond
to
the
previous
person's
question?
You
know
those
privacy
includes
social
media
concerns
is
how
how
can
we
do
anything
to
impact,
and
maybe
you
can
tell
me
about
any
efforts
that
the
Internet
Society
is
doing.
M
This
is
Harish,
maybe
I'll
follow
up
Carolina,
Jesse,
I,
think
the
sorry
I'm
Harish
Bali
and
one
of
the
trustees
and
I'm
based
out
of
Singapore,
so
I
think
the
the
key
thing
that
we
need
to
also
keep
in
mind.
Based
on
what
Caroline
has
mentioned.
What
is
the
ISO
can
do
at
the
part
of
what
we
are
already
doing?
M
Is
education
and
I
think
we
need
the
chapters
and
you
know
all
of
us
to
collectively
educate
our
own
individual
constituencies
that
we
are
part
of
the
communities
area
about
the
need
for
privacy,
security
and
the
ability
to
control
the
data
that
you
have,
especially
from
a
social
media
perspective.
I.
Think
a
lot
of
the
problems
that
we
face
and
we
see
today
largely
stems
from
complete
lack
of
understanding
and
what
are
the
exposures
that
one
has
when
you're
dealing
with
technologies?
M
That
looks
very
interesting
is
a
lot
of
fun
and
you
know
you
eat
Quinten.
We
put
out
stuff
that
you
may
not
even
realize
that
you're
doing
so,
a
lot
of
it
has
got
to
do
with
education
teaching
people
what
it
is
and
explain
to
people
what
it
is.
I
think
that's
the
space
that
we
should
collectively
moving
forward
and
really
the
grassroots
level
is
where
we
need
to
help
people
to
move
in
that
direction.
M
L
You
yeah,
that's
I,
agree
I,
think
if
I
can
add
something.
Sorry
I
think
the
challenge
is:
how
do
we
educate
efficiently
because
coming
from
you
know
a
digital
marketing
point
of
view?
What
I
see
is
the
strength
of
you
know
the
private
sector
in
using
the
most
the
latest
and
the
most
in
the
fanciest
and
the
most
attractive
ways
to
educate
through,
for
example,
you
know
short
videos.
L
You
know
using
personalities
to
send
the
message
across
and
the
challenge
I
see
is.
How
does
a
nonprofits
deal
with
that
because,
from
my
experience
trying
to
talk
to
was
trying
to
educate,
you
know
fellow
parents,
adults
about
what
is
going
on
on
the
Internet,
both
from
the
personal
point
of
view
and
from
their
children's?
One
of
you
is
that
they
have
no
time
they
have
no
awareness
of
the
need
to
be
educated,
and
so
my
question
is:
how
do
we
reach
them
when
they're
not
necessarily
ready
to
be
educated
about
the
internets?
L
But
how
do
we
sort
of
attract
them
to
entertaining
content
that
will
also
educate
them
at
the
same
time?
I
think
you
know
that's
one
of
the
questions.
I've
been
asking
myself
and
I'd
love
to
ask
all
of
you
or
not,
if
not
now
later,
but
that's
one
of
the
topics
that
I'm
struggling
with
and
wanting
to
do
something
about
yeah.
H
I
can
just
jump
in
for
a
minute
for
people
who
are
mostly
familiar
with
the
chapters.
I
sock
actually
has
three
constituencies:
I
mean
there's,
there's
the
ITF
there's
the
chapters,
and
we
also
have
organizational
members
and
the
organizational
members
include
most
of
the
large
Internet
related
companies.
You've
heard
of
basically
they
appoint
board
members
and
in
fact
we
have
a
one
of
our.
We
have
a
new
incoming
board
member
later
this
month,
who
works
for
who,
as
a
policy
guy
who
works
for
Facebook,
you
know
and
to
some
extent
I
suppose,
like.
H
Oh,
my
gracious
were
captured
by
Facebook,
but
now
we're
not
I
mean
we
have
we.
You
know
we
talk
to
these
big
companies
all
the
time
you
know
and
there's
a
certain
tension
between
what
their
profit
oriented
goals
and
our
public
service
goals.
You
know,
but
I
mean
you're,
absolutely
right
that
you
know
there's
also.
These
are
big
issues
of
privacy
and
personal
data
and
persuading
our
children
that
no
really
you
don't
want
to
give
away
every
scrap
of
your
personal
information
just
to
get
a
keychain,
but
it's
it's
tough.
H
A
C
That's
me:
okay
I
would
like
to
speak
about
the
small
and
medium
enterprises
that
you
mentioned.
I
think
this
is
a
very,
very
important
issue,
especially
for
our
region,
that
in
America
and
the
Caribbean
that
in
America
bases
its
its
economy,
mainly
on
small
and
medium
enterprises,
not
on
small
and
medium
enterprises
get
easily
in
into
technology.
So
what
we
have
been
doing
concretely
with
the
help
of
AIESEC
and
also
John
already
mentioned
all
the
papers
and
information
that
we
have
from
from
the
from
I
SOT.
C
We
have
organized
several
online
webinars,
and
now
we
started
to
partner
with
universities
to
provide
online
training
courses
or
face-to-face
training
courses.
So
what
we
do
is
we
gather
the
community
through
the
chapter
and
we
offer
fellowships
or
half-price
fellowship
for
some
members
in
the
small
and
medium
enterprises.
Believe
me,
there
are
some
small
and
medium
enterprises
don't
have
a
website.
They
only
have
one
web-based
email
address,
they
kind
of
profit
from
technology,
so
also
we
organized
a
website
with
all
that
information
tools
for
productivity.
So
it's
not
a
short
answer.
C
B
N
Hi
Dave
Burstein
I
sell
a
limit
myself
to
seven
minutes.
That's
an
awful
lot
of
time
for
one
person
to
take
here,
but
the
problem
is
the
2/3
of
the
Internet
is
not
being
spoken
for
here.
As
almost
all
of
us
know,
there's
been
a
huge
spread,
at
least
since
2012
between
the
US
and
allies,
when
I
call
the
DC
consensus
and
the
rest
of
the
world.
N
Two-Thirds
of
the
world's
nations
voted
at
wicket
to
change
the
system
and
the
u.s.
supported
by
Europe
and
I
Sauk
chose
to
leave
the
meeting
and
not
sign
the
treaty
by
the
course
important
question
then
becomes.
How
do
we
bridge
that
gap?
I
sock
wants
to
be
global,
but
it's
a
joke
to
say
we
are
global,
as
we
often
have
on
our
home
page
when
more
than
half
of
the
Internet
is
not
included
in
I
sock.
It's
not
here
on
the
board
and
has
essentially
no
choice.
N
Remember
China
is
already
one
third
of
the
Internet,
possibly
more
than
400
million
broadband
connections
in
China.
How
do
we
get
them
involved?
What
do
we
say?
We
are
the
Internet
Society
of
one
half
of
the
world.
Second,
something
very
odd
is
going
on
here,
because
somebody
of
one
of
the
board
members
asked
is
this
new
that
we
said
the
chapters
should
have
some
control
over
3%
of
the
money
without
going
through
staff.
That
was
part
of
the
original
proposal
two
years
ago.
N
That
was
at
the
heart
of
the
chapters
committee
proposal
and
the
reason
we
do
that
is
because
staff
is
very
political,
its
own
objectives
and
has
said
no
again
and
again
to
the
things
that
the
chapters
want
to
do.
So
we
are
not
a
multi-stakeholder
organization
in
any
meaningful
sense.
If
we
do
not
involve
the
chapters
directly
and
the
members
in
decision-making,
including
what
they
should
do
in
their
own
chapter
same.
A
N
It
is
ridiculous
to
talk
about
access,
which
is
our
most
important
priority,
and
only
talk
about
access
for
the
two
percent
who
might
be
reached
by
community
networks.
That's
a
terrible
bad
compromise
in
the
u.s.,
in
particular,
the
cost
of
the
Internet
is
getting
ridiculous.
$70
is
the
cheapest
plan
at
Verizon.
We
should
be
doing
something
about
that.
It
is
ridiculous
to
talk
about
security
if
we
don't
deal
with
the
fact
that
some
governments,
including
mine,
are
the
biggest
threat
to
security
in
the
internet
alone.
N
G
Dave,
this
is
my
hello.
Can
you
hear
me?
Yes,
I
can
yeah
okay,
so
I
mean
today
we
don't
have
time
to
tackle
all
the
all
the
questions,
but
you
know
send
me
an
email
and
we
we'll
follow
up
in
any
case,
quick
answers
to
some
of
your
points.
The
point
that
you
know
not
every
single
country
in
the
world
is
represented
in
the
board.
I
mean
that
obviously
is
impossible.
We
have
you
know,
elections
and
selection
processes
and
and
I
think
we
are,
you
know,
represent
in
many
areas.
G
If
we
don't
like
that,
we
could,
you
know,
look
at
it
and
change
the
bylaws
eventually,
if
we
agreed
to
do
that,
but
you
know
pretending
that
12
people
represent
everyone,
I
mean
you
would
have.
You
would
need
to
have
a
huge
board
and
that's
not
practical
right.
G
Then
second
I
mean
regarding
the
the
the
request
from
the
chapters
yeah
I
said
it
was
new
I
mean
the
question
was
I.
Obviously,
as
I
wrote
in
the
child,
obviously
remembered
the
request
and
I
remember
the
discussion
I
had
with
you
and
we
exchanged
several
offline
messages
that
were
quite
useful.
For
me
to
understand,
so
it's
not
that
basically
we
are
not
answering.
That
is
that
we
provided
you
an
answer
which
you
don't
like,
so
in
that
sense
the
multi-stakeholder
model
doesn't
mean
that
you
know
no.
G
N
I,
don't
know
but
I'm
back
on,
so
thank
you
thumbs.
Although
this
is
not
personal,
he
said.
I
probably
understand
that
okay,
these
are
issues
that
I
saw
tries
not
to
hear
it
is
very
frightening,
because
the
30
staff
know
that
if
I
sought
were
representative
of
the
internet
uses
the
world,
not
in
particular
of
one
country,
even
if
it's
a
third
of
the
Internet,
they
would
be
out
on
their
rear
ends,
because
they
are
so
deeply
committed
to
the
u.s.
position
in
wicked
the
ITU
and
Internet
Governance.
We
have
to
change
that.
N
A
You
Dave,
we
didn't
hear
all
the
comments
you
you
have
had
and
we
can
continue
through
email
and
and
I
hope
that
some
of
the
answers
comes.
Allah
provided
were
satisfactory,
but
we
can
go
on
the
writing
question
just
to
you.
I
do
apologize,
we
have
to
go
on
with
the
rest
of
the
question
saying.
Thank
you.
Thank
you.
B
B
O
Yes,
so
a
few
comments
on
some
of
the
issues
that
have
been
raised
before
one
on
the
issue
of
educating
our
communities.
I
think
we
must
proceed
with
educating
our
communities,
it's
hard
to
measure
the
impact,
but
from
my
experience
in
the
last
10
years,
or
so,
it
has
been
working
bit
by
bit
so
I
think
we
should
look
at
how
to
build
the
capacity
of
our
chapters
to
educate,
because
this
is
how
we
bring
more
users.
O
We
bring
onboard
new
Internet
users
and
I
want
to
cite
an
example
of
what
used
to
happen
in
2009
during
the
IGF
and
2010,
where
there
were
a
lot
of
protests
in
China
and
flashback
to
the
current
time.
You
can
see
that
China
is
a
very
active
participant
in
the
multi-stakeholder
process,
so
education
is
key
and
we
have
to
continue
by
all
means.
The
other
issue
is
again:
we
must
keep
talking
about
good
use
of
the
Internet
in
comments
man
in
a
in
common
man's
language
and
basically
that's
good
manners.
O
Of
course
the
Internet
has
its
positive
sides,
but
we've
seen
a
lot
of
cases
where
it
has
also
been
used
negatively.
But
let's
focus
on
what
is
positive
so
that
we
can
also
encourage
more
users
to
come
online
and
finally,
on
the
issue
of
chapters
we've
come
a
long
way
and
I
would
like
to
say
that
we
need
to
continue
exploring
ways
and
means
of
the
improving
corporate
governance
in
our
chapters,
so
that
we
can
be
able
to
enhance
its
effectiveness.
O
In
my
opinion,
it's
a
bit
too
early
to
give
autonomy
to
chapters
because
it
has
its
own
challenges.
But
let's
continue
this
conversation
in
the
community
until
we
find
a
proper
way
in
which
chapters
can
also
account
for
the
resources
but
they
receive
from
the
global
pool.
So
that's
my
take.
Thank
you
very
much.
A
I
It's
will
lead
the
Barack.
Thank
you
very
much,
thanks
to
all
the
chapters
that
are
showing
the
real
face
of
ISIL
in
terms
of
extending
its
role
to
be
influential
in
access
and
Internet
governance
and
human
rights
and
all
sorts
of
things
as
the
board,
we
are
responsible
for
setting
the
overall
vision
and
strategy
of
issac.
I
We
have
received
the
operations
of
the
staff,
and
one
very
crucial
thing
that
we
pointed
to
was
the
need
to
give
the
staff
and
give
the
bureau's
all
the
resources
necessary
to
ensure
that
there
is
enough
coordination
with
the
local
communities
and,
as
you
can
imagine,
that
is
very
difficult
for
you
know
100
plus
chapters,
but
yet
we
are
moving
in
that
direction.
We
have
been
empowering
the
staff
we
tried
to
ensure
that
any
missing
or
it's
a
vacant
position
is
filled
quickly,
so
that
we
have
enough
manpower.
I
That
being
said,
it
all
is
a
matter
of
initiative.
So
these
the
end
users
represented
by
the
volunteers
that
the
chapters
are,
in
fact
the
central
actor
in
this
case.
So
their
initiative
towards
the
achieving
the
goals
of
ISIL
overall
will
be
very
much
supported
by
the
bureau's,
and
that's
a
word
from
from
the
staff
from
the
board
and
to
ensure
that
this
direction
continues.
So
that's
basically
what
I
thought
thank
you.
A
B
G
John
was
saying
that
he
doesn't
have
voice
today,
so
let
me
read
there
the
question
for
him:
I
am
interested
in
what
Isaac
is
doing
or
intends
to
do
about
looking
at
actual
use
of
the
internet
from
a
wide
range
of
languages
and
writing
systems
and
how
that
interacts
with
expanding
the
reach
and
human
interconnectivity
of
the
internet.
Those
two
sets
of
objectives
actually
involve
trade-offs
with,
in
some
cases,
more
colonization
implying
more
isolated
islands.
Well,
there
is
a
lot
of
focus
out
there
on
domain
names
and
character,
coding
issues.
G
A
H
I
mean
I,
know
John
pretty
well,
and
we've
been
talking
about
this
and
he's
absolutely
right
that
language
is
on
the
internet
or
a
big
topic.
It's
not
one
that
I
sock
has
addressed
very
directly
I'm
in
a
certainly
one
that
I
personally
think
we
should
look
at
you
know,
and
it's
been
is
rebuilding
our
plans
for
for
the
next
year,
you
know
and
and
transition
you
know
transitioning
to
our
new
CEO
coming
in
with
new
policies.
It
is
absolutely
something
that
I
want
to
look
at
and
put
some
emphasis
on.
A
P
I
want
to
complement
to
the
board
on
the
lease
to
the
strategy
this
year
of
making
the
four
campaigns
I
think
that
it's
it's
moving
slowly
but
I
think
it's
it's
getting
chapters
something
to
bite
on
and
what
they
can
do,
and
members
of
advocating
these
certain
things,
but
it's
a
little
disconcerting
to
see
in
the
survey
that
say,
manners
is
like
amongst
the
least
concerns,
and
in
this
case,
to
my
broader
point,
is
you
know
the
bridge
between
the
sort
of
wider
membership
that
maybe
have
social
concerns
and
the
technical
community,
which
is
something
that
you
see
locally.
P
You
know
we
say
locally
as
a
as
a
chapter.
We
don't
know
our
local
IETF
people,
we
don't
have
we
don't
interface
with
them.
We
don't
know
our
local
organizational
people,
we
don't
really
interface
with
them
in
terms
of
the
collaborative
governance
aspects
and
this
kind
of
thing
how
we
better
interface,
these
three
constituencies
at
the
local
level.
A
G
This
is
Gonzalo
thanks,
Julie
for
the
question
actually
interesting
enough.
We
were
discussing
that
same
question
within
the
board.
Like
you
know,
one
or
two
weeks
ago,
which
is
that
exactly,
as
you
said,
you
know
the
campaigns
or
anything
else.
We
do
usually
the
connections
in
in
our
communities
right
between
you
know,
ITF
chapters
and
orgs.
They
are
more
based
on.
You,
know,
personal
relations
and
as
opposed
to
to
a
structural,
and
we
are
thinking
of
how
to
structure
that
a
bit
better
so
that
you
know
organically.
We
can
start
building
those
connections.
G
We
are
thinking
that
coming
up
with
with
common
things
where
people
could
be
involved
and
work
on
together.
That
would
be
a
good
start,
but
if
you
have
any
suggestions,
I
mean
we
would
love
to
hear
them
because,
as
I
said,
we
are
starting
thinking
of
that
in
order
to
define
the
action
plan.
For
you
know
next
year,
which
you
know
we
will
start
doing
right
after
the
summer
with
with
the
new
CEO
as
well.
So
in
that
sense
you
know
it's
I
mean.
In
summary,
you
know
a
great
idea.
We
are
thinking
of
it.
P
B
Q
Was
involved
in
the
2018
reform,
personal
data
protection
rules?
If,
yes,
what
is
your
plan
for
its
awareness?
And
the
second
question
is
that
the
Internet
should
be
accessible
to
everyone
every
one,
but
currently
it
has
become
a
profitable
business.
What
is
the
eyes
of
approach
on
that
issues?
Or
you
have
some
receptive
to
that
programs,
because
nowadays
the
internet
is
for
rich
people
on.
I
Maybe
it
is
very
worried
again
I'd
like
to
really
thank
the
gentleman
for
raising
this,
because
access
internet
for
everyone
is
what
we
are
all
standing
for
and
I'd
like
to
note
that
there
are
some
very
positive
examples
like
the
Tusheti
project
in
in
Georgia,
for
example,
where
remote
very
distant
parts
of
the
country
were
connected
with
help
from
myself.
So
they
are
these
small
but
growing
examples
that
can
be
replicated
elsewhere.
This
is
in
terms
of
access,
but
of
course,
the
bigger
picture.
I
You
know
the
expenses
and
affordability
are
internet
governance
issues
that
need
will
in
a
multi-stakeholder
approach
and
having
I
saw
as
one
of
many
different
partners
to
work
with.
So
we
are
all
engaged
in
this
particular
discussion
and
we
are
hoping
that,
of
course,
change
is
difficult
to
achieve
immediately,
but
slow
and
steady.
We
are
high.
C
Sarah
may
I
add
something.
Thank
you
add
I.
Think
Waleed
mentioned
this
very
important
issue
of
the
community
networks.
Of
course
I.
So
cannot
all
the
problem
of
connectivity
of
the
whole
world.
But
let
me
tell
you
that
each
chapter
has
the
possibility
of
organizing
one
vent
or
two
events
with
some
funds
you
get
every
year
and
we
usually
do
that
in
Argentina
open
to
the
community.
C
We
try
to
do
it
with
remote
participation
and
has
been
extremely
successful
in
bringing
the
different
stakeholders
together,
because
the
networking
among
stakeholder
is
fundamental
to
enhance
the
capacity
building,
the
understanding
and
the
links
in
between
the
different
parties,
so
I
I
suggested
you
get
in
touch
with
with
your
local
chapter
or
start
a
new
chapter.
If
you
don't
have
one
in
in
your
country
and
try
to
profit
from
that.
A
Therefore
we
have
we,
as
any
other
entity,
have
to
comply
with
gdpr
I'm.
You
know
this
is
a
regulation
that
is
a
European
regulation,
but
I
don't
had
a
particular
involvement
ourselves
in
making
this
regulation.
I
might
be
wrong,
but
I
do
not
want
to
talk
on
behalf
of
the
staff.
We
are
really
want
some
strategic
revisions,
rather
than
what
has
happened
copies
on
the
call
I
can
see
that
you
may
wish
to
answer
that,
but.
Q
Q
A
B
A
We
are
getting
too
close
to
the
end
of
our
discussion.
I
think
and
I
see
more
questions,
also
in
the
in
the
chat
room.
So,
as
I
said
initially,
we
would
be
able
to
follow
up
with
these
questions
in
in
a
written
format
back
and
to
the
community
and
and
try
to
answer
some
of
the
questions
that
are
unanswered.
A
B
I
can
do
so.
Drashti
had
a
short
question
about
how
the
internet
society
helps
to
ensure
diversity
and
inclusion,
and
then
we
had
a
question
from
ballet
about
understanding
that
the
Internet
is
not
only
about
whatsapp
but
for
everything,
because
we
are
facing
this
problem.
So
how
do
we
create
a
better
perception
of
what
the
Internet
really
involves
and
then
Romina
had
a
question?
If
new
technologies
can
reduce
corruption
and
improve
the
governance
of
the
Internet.
I
A
Yes,
I
said
best
effort
to
keep
our
time.
I
would
just
ask
if
anyone
would
like
to
pick
one
of
these
three
questions,
because
the
questions
in
the
chat
room
are
I
still
coming
through
what
is
the
chief
ethics
officer
of
AIESEC
and
and
so
on.
So
if
anyone
wishes
to
answer
any
of
your
meanness
or
previous
questions,
please
go
ahead
and
then
we
will
try
to
adjourn
and
a
meeting.
I
And
yes,
it's
me
again
that
is
re
I
mean
I
will
eat
I'd
like
just
to
focus
on
the
fact
that
Internet
is
a
conduit.
It
can
be
almost
anything
that
can
be
done
on
the
Internet
can
be
done.
Real
life
can
more
or
less
be
done
on
the
internet,
so
it's
a
reflection
of
us
as
a
society,
so
issues
regarding
awareness,
education,
etc.
We'll
have
to
find
a
way
to
have
a
place
on
the
Internet.
I
That
being
said,
I
thought
will
work
on
as
its
mandate
on
aspects
of
access
and
standards
and
ensuring
the
reliability
and
security
of
the
Internet,
and
that
is
something
that
is
in
our
DNA,
and
it
can
only
be
done
with
support
from
the
community
and
and,
of
course,
with
resourceful
and
competent
staff.
That
being
said,
there
are
various
changes
that's
been
raised,
including,
for
example,
consolidation
which
are
overarching
issues
that
strategically
AIESEC
is
not
going
to
focus
on,
and
hopefully
with
the
new
CEO.
I
That
would
be
one
of
the
main
areas
and
also
there
will
be
need
for
more
engagement
of
this
sort
with
the
board,
except
that
we
need
to
also
focus
on
the
need
on
the
vision
and
strategic
aspects
of
what
can,
I
said,
promote
and
anything
else
about
operational
aspects
of
functions
about
issues
with
chapters
can
also
always
be
at
rest,
with
the
staff
directly.
So
I
think
this
is
towards
the
end
of
the
I.
Don't.
A
Think
you
will
later
I
I
believe
we
have
hadn't
had
a
chance
to
yet
go
through
the
question
of
time.
Five
to
see
what
would
be,
you
know
the
best
way
to
benefit
from
the
network
of
chapters,
but
we've
I
just
like
to
thank
everyone
who
has
joined
at
this
consultative
process
and
to
thank
you
for
your
time
and
for
your
questions
and
for
your
feedback,
and
we
will
summarize
this
goal
and
try
to
answer
some
of
the
questions
we
couldn't
in
this
short
time.
So.
Thank
you
all
again.
Thank
you.