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From YouTube: Internet Society Board of Trustees Meeting 146 - Day 2
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Internet Society Board of Trustees - Meeting 146
27-28 July 2019, Montreal, Canada
Agenda available here: https://www.internetsociety.org/board-of-trustees/meetings/146/
A
A
Okay,
hello.
Welcome
to
the
second
day
of
our
our
board
meeting
our
idea,
AGM
2019.
We
are
still
in
Montreal
Canada
and
today
we're
starting
well.
We
actually
studied
in
executive
session
before,
but
now
we
are
starting
in
in
open
session,
so
we're
gonna
have
a
one-hour
session
a
bit
longer
than
that
with
our
North
America,
Bureau
and
they're
gonna
be
presenting.
You
know
some
interesting
results
and
activities.
They
have
been
basically
carrying
out,
as
you
know
a
couple
of
years
ago,
something
like
that.
A
We
decided
that,
since
we
are
actually
going
to
basically
know
our
different
regions
in
the
world
to
meet
all
our
regional
bureaus
and
actually
this
completes
the
circle.
So
we
have
now
met
with
you
guys,
you
know
all
their
regional
viewers
and
and
as
I
say,
all
the
time
we
meet
with
with
you
guys.
It's
really
interesting
because
you
know
I
mean
we
get
exposed
to
the
activities
that
they
happen
locally.
What
you
guys
have
been
up
to
so
in
that
sense,
this
is
a
part
of
the
meeting.
A
B
C
B
We
have
some
team
members
here
we
have
some
joining
from
zoom
and
we're
going
to
split
the
presentation
up
according
to
who
leads
what
project,
because
I
can
tell
you.
My
team
knows
exponentially
more
about
the
work
they're
doing
than
then
I
do
Kevin
next
slide.
So,
just
by
way
of
introduction,
Katie
Jordan,
who
is
our
senior
policy
adviser,
is
joining
on
Zoom
in
the
bottom.
There
hoes
in
hoes,
9
bodhrán,
a
regional
technical
adviser,
also
from
Ottawa
right
here.
Bethany
Davis
is
with
Kelly
Elkins
in
the
I.
B
Think
they're
in
the
rest
in
office,
yeah
in
the
rest
in
office
behind
me
is
Natalie
Campbell,
who
is
the
communications
lead
for
North
America
she's
with
the
communications
department
and
Anna
Higgins
is
behind
me
as
well.
She's
a
an
intern
who's
joined
us
for
the
summer
as
a
research
analyst
and
I'm
Marc
Gill
the
regional
bureau
director
and
we're
all
very
happy
to
be
here
next
slide
coming.
So
we
wanted
to
talk
a
bit
about
to
contextualise
our
work.
Talk
a
little
bit
about
the
the
I
saw
community
within
within
North
America
and
I'll.
A
Ellie
you're,
muted
yeah,
you
guys
are
muted,
okay,
the
some
we
can't
a
mute
that
that's
a
problem
indeed,.
D
Thank
you
so
much
for
for
that.
Thank
you
for
inviting
us
to
speak
to
everyone
today.
It's
great
we're
so
happy
to
again.
I'm
Kelly,
Collins
and
I
have
been
working
in
the
North
America
chapter
for
about
a
year
and
a
half.
Now
we
work
I
work,
mainly
as
a
liaison
with
the
North
American
chapters
that
you
see
listed
on
the
screen.
Here.
D
We've
got
ten
chapters
in
North
America
more
about
to
have
an
11
they're,
all
amazing
in
so
many
different
ways,
but
I
will
point
out
a
few
of
the
highlights
later
actually
later
on.
Today,
you'll
be
hearing
from
Pierre
Jean
and
the
Quebec
chapter,
so
I'm
going
to
not
steal
their
their
show
and
let
them
give
you
the
update
on
what
they're
up
to
Canada
is
another
one
of
our
flagship
chapters
and,
and
they
have
about
almost
400
members
in
Canada.
They
are
planning
on
a
lot
of
work
coming
up
in
the
fall
on
cybersecurity.
D
They
now
have
three
super
nodes:
326
nodes
overall
and
28
hubs
connecting
people
are
offering
better
access
options
for
people
in
the
greater
Manhattan
area,
so
they're
they're
doing
so
good
DC
for
sign,
Katie,
Bethany
and
I
were
all
just
at
the
IGF
USA
in
DC
on
Thursday,
which
brought
together
about
300
people.
The
iStock
DC
chapter
sponsored
it
and
they
brought
300
people
together
in
a
hot
July
day
in
DC
to
discuss
privacy
antitrust
any
a
Digital
Inclusion
it
was.
It
was
an
excellent
discussion.
D
I
think
is
viewed
on
the
live
stream
liked
by
over
a
hundred
people
and
again
can
be
watched,
yeah
I
in
our
livestream
library.
If
anyone
missed
it,
Illinois
is
one
of
our
up-and-coming
chapters.
They
just
hosted
a
meeting
in
Chicago
on
a
Saturday
got.
You
know
about
30,
30
or
so
people
together
to
talk
about
new
trends
and
AI
and
IOT
security.
D
As
the
indigenous
connectivity
chapter,
that's
hopefully
going
to
be
announced
at
the
summit
in
November
they're,
just
finalizing
some
legal
details
on
the
establishing
a
non-profit
and
opening
a
bank
account.
So
once
they
get
that
finalized,
we
will
we'll
have
that
ready
to
announce
and
we're
excited
for
their
work.
So
any.
F
That's
then,
across
different
stakeholder
groups,
one
of
them
is
I
said,
which
is
in
this
innovation,
science
and
economic
development,
with
branch
of
the
Canadian
government,
and
there
been
a
strong
partner
with
us
on
our
enhancing
IOT
Security
Project,
which
cosine
will
speak
about
a
little
bit
later
and
they've
also
been
a
global
partner.
As
far
as
our
policy
platform,
with
IOT
security
and
they're,
one
of
our
strongest
partners
in
the
coalition
and
they've
connected
us
to
many
other
global
organizations
and
they're
working
closely
with
NIST
and
NTIA
in
the
u.s.
F
Another
one
of
our
great
partners
is
mural
nets,
who
we
actually
got
a
chance
to
hear.
The
CEO
give
a
great
panels
presentation
at
the
IETF
USA
earlier
this
week
and
she
got
some
aerial
tricks.
She
is
going
to
be
partnering
with
us
on
our
upcoming
indigenous
connectivity
trainings
on
those
the
policy
and
attach
the
tech
tracts
of
those,
and
she
also
works
closely
with
us.
The
u.s.
access
issues,
another
partner
of
ours.
This
one
is
in
the
DC
area-
is
Center
for
Democracy
and
Technology
CDT.
F
They
were
a
strong
partner
and
one
of
our
multi-stakeholder
projects
that
we
had
going
on
locally
and
they
have
become
as
a
result
of
that
they
have
now
partnered
with
and
the
last
one
I'm
gonna
bring
to
your
attention
is.
The
University
of
Alberta,
though,
is
helped
with
several
of
our
indigenous
connectivity
trainings.
They
planned
and
hosted
our
last
training
in
Edmonton
on
their
campus
University
of
Alberta
campus,
and
they
are
also
going
to
be
a
strong
partner
in
the
planning
of
our
upcoming
training,
which
is
going
to
be
in
Hawaii.
So.
G
G
Really
me
and
that
we
have
highly
developed
digital
economies
very
well
established
democracies
in
both
the
countries
in
our
region,
and
it's
also
recorded
that
we
have
very
high
internet
penetration
in
Canada.
As
it
says,
on
the
slide
is
almost
95%.
The
u.s.
is
almost
87%,
but
that
being
said,
there
are
a
lot
of
problems
with
the
way
that
that
internet
access
and
adoption
rates
are
reported
and
in
both
Canada
and
us.
G
There
are
serious
conversations
going
on
about
changing
the
ways
that
we
map
access
and
map
adoption,
especially
because
there
are
issues
where,
if
one
household
is
reported
as
connected
in
a
pretty
broad
land
area,
then
every
other
house
in
that
area
is
considered
connected
and
it
closes
off
funding
opportunities
and
other
project
opportunities
for
those
areas.
So
this
is
particularly
problematic
in
rural
and
remote
areas,
and
especially
in
the
indigenous
communities
within
those
rural
and
remote
areas.
G
So
we're
working
closely
on
that
and
we're
also
looking
at
the
affordability
access
issues
along
with
access,
because
just
because
an
area
in
a
remote
or
rural
area
has
access,
the
internet
does
not
mean
that
they
can
necessarily
afford
it.
Especially
because
the
cost
gets
exponentially
higher
the
further
away
you
get
from
four
major
cities,
we
can
go
to
the
next
slide,
so
it's
no
secret
that
in
the
United
States
we
are
in
a
very
politically
divided
time,
both
in
Congress
and
among
many
in
our
population.
G
G
It
caused
some
very
big
problems
for
us
and
really
put
everything
on
hold
for
months
at
a
time
so
with
the
August
recess,
followed
immediately
by
a
September
budget
that
will
likely
get
pushed
even
further
back.
It's
going
to
be
very
challenging
to
get
anything
done
at
a
congressional
level
beyond
the
end
of
July,
and
that
has
a
lot
of
those
positives
and
negatives.
G
There's
a
lot
of
issues,
some
of
which
we
heard
during
the
2016
election
and
some
of
which
are
are
more
emerging
issues
that
we'll
probably
get
a
lot
of
attention
in
2020.
That's
everything
from
fake
news
to
censorship
and
antitrust,
and
actually
we
already
have
several
candidates
on
both
sides
of
the
political
aisle
who
have
called
for
either
a
breakup
of
tech
for
at
least
an
investigation
into
big
tech
and
the
the
implications
of
consolidated
marketplace
and
congressional
leaders
and
really
politicians
in
general.
G
At
this
point,
our
highly
distracted
there
are
a
lot
of
very,
very
high
tension
issues
on
auditions
plate
and
policymakers
plates
right
now.
Everything
from
the
Mueller
report
to
immigration
and
trade
and
the
impacts
that
each
of
those
has
on
untuk
actually
has
rolled
into
a
lot
of
our
our
work
as
well,
but
that
things
that
we
are
lucky
in
that
we
have
a
very
committed
public
service.
G
Civil
society
is
really
strong
in
in
our
region,
particularly
in
North
America
or
in
the
United
States
and
they're,
focusing
on
a
lot
of
different
issues
right
now,
some
of
which
we
plan
to
and
have
been
partnering
on,
the
with
them,
some
of
which
we
are
kind
of
watching
from
the
sidelines
and
being
supportive,
where
we
can.
That
includes
privacy,
5g
censorship,
net
neutrality,
antitrust
and
consolidation
and
there's
a
renewed
look
now
at
the
impact
of
the
internet
on
children.
G
He's
also
worth
mentioning
that
the
Federal
Trade
Commission,
the
FTC,
has
imposed
fines
on
Facebook
and
is
investigating
other
big
tech
organizations
and
yet
Congress
and
the
public.
Don't
think
that
they're
by
and
large,
don't
think
that
they're
doing
enough
to
really
curb
some
of
the
negative
impacts
of
a
big
check
and
actually
just
this
past
week,
it
was
announced
that
both
the
FTC
and
the
Justice
Department
are
opening
antitrust
investigations
into
both
Facebook
and
other
big
tech.
So
it's
saying
that
we're
keeping
a
very
close
eye
on
it's
uncertain.
G
H
I
My
name's
Andy
Higgins
I'm
an
intern
with
the
North
American
Bureau,
so
katie
and
I
have
met
with
a
few
congressional
offices
about
access
issues,
and
this
is
something
that
people
are
increasingly
paying
more
attention
to
their
waiver
hearings.
They're.
Looking
for
more
information
about
how
we
can
better
access
the
US,
so
we're
seeing
a
lot
of
legislation
that
aim
to
expand
funding.
I
They
want
to
implement
big
ones
and
onetouch
make
ready
our
climb
once
as
a
lot
of
offices
are
calling
it
policies,
they're,
trying
to
establish
offices
and
the
NTIA
and
FCC
that
are
specifically
dedicated
to
access.
Another
big
issue
that
Katie
talked
about
earlier
was
that
the
maps
are
super
inaccurate.
To
give
you
an
idea
of
how
inaccurate
they
are.
I
They
want
more
clear
information
about
what
is
spectrum,
and
what
does
that
mean?
The
FCC
has
held
that
are
going
to
take
on
user
little
use,
bands
of
spectrum
that
have
been
reserved
for
public
use
or
buying
back
bands
of
spectrum
than
selling
them
back
to
companies
and
networks
a
lot
of
times.
They
talk
about
doing
these
auctions
to
make
way
for
5g
policies,
but
we're
also
hoping
that,
with
these
kinds
of
policies
with
spectrum,
they'll
create
carve
outs
that
will
help
particularly
community
networks
and
tribal
areas.
G
And
the
current
government,
just
by
Trudeau,
may
be
in
some
trouble,
it's
unclear
yet
how
this
would
impact
our
work,
but
we
are
hopeful
that
many
of
our
existing
partners
would
continue
to
work
in
their
their
departments.
Regardless
of
what
happens,
however,
because
of
the
election
coming
up
and
because
of
specific
lobbying
rules
in
Canada,
most
of
the
work
that
has
been
done
on
the
policy
side,
I
did
so
far.
G
The
sphere
is
kind
of
on
hold
and
until
the
election
is
over
and
federally
funded
and
led
projects
are
especially
on
hold,
because
the
government
just
can't
do
a
lot
leading
up
to
to
this
transition
period.
So
that
actually
gives
us
a
good
opportunity
to
start
building
further
coalition's
and
partnerships
and
getting
ready
for
the
issues
that
we
see
will
be
coming
up
in
two
20,
we're
very
lucky
that
the
current
government
is
very
committed
to
the
multi-stakeholder
model
and
to
global
collaboration,
and,
as
Becky
was
talking
about
earlier.
G
One
of
our
partners,
I
said
actually
has
participated
really
closely
on
both
multi-stakeholder
processes
that
we've
run
and
then
expanded
on
that
work
and
gone
out
and
begun,
including
additional
partners
and
groups
in
the
work
that
it's
doing.
So.
We're
really
excited
about
that
and
we're
very
hopeful
again
that
even
if
the
the
government
does
have
a
significant
shift
to
many
of
our
partners
will
remain
in
their
specific
positions.
We're
also
lucky
in
Canada
that
access
has
become
a
key
priority
for
the
federal
government
and
they've
committed
both
funds
and
support
to
access
work.
G
And
this
access
work
tends
to
target
rural
and
remote
areas.
But
we've
been
working
very
closely
with
them
to
ensure
that
indigenous
populations
are
particularly
prioritized
and
consulted
in
those
rural
and
remote
areas,
and
because
it's
our
belief
and
I
think
many
in
the
rooms
believe
that
if
you
begin
with
the
hardest
to
reach
areas-
and
you
work
out
from
there
you're
much
more
likely
to
be
successful
in
actually
getting
access
to
everyone
everywhere.
G
Similarly,
to
the
US,
tech
has
dominated
a
lot
of
the
kind
of
conversations
around
the
election,
especially
in
Canada
around
election
interference.
But
also
you
know
you
can
hear
conversations
about
access.
Digital
literacy,
security
I
excuse
their
big
one,
because
there's
a
renewed
push
within
Canada
to
route
more
traffic
through
Canada,
as
opposed
to
routing
it
through
the
US
and
back
into
Canada.
Privacy
is
a
big
one
and
then
they're
also
reviewing
telecommunication
and
broadcasting
acts.
So
we're
playing
paying
close
attention
to
that
and
hoping
to
be
as
helpful
as
we
can
with
those.
B
Thanks
next
slide:
Kevin
mm-hmm.
Sorry,
this
is
a
just
a
slide
to
what
I
did
is.
I
went
into
our
activity,
tracking
our
success
tracking
spreadsheet
and
just
counted
how
many
media
hits
we
had
how
many
blog
posts
we've
done
and
really
it's
almost
kind
of
meaningless,
because
it's
just
a
laundry
list
of
of
what
we've
done
for
the
year.
But
what
I
find
really
interesting
when
I
did?
That
was
we
do
the
count
and
he
split
it
up.
B
You
really
see
where
our
efforts
in
Canada
are
are
having
the
most
impact,
and
it's
really
on
the
access
side.
You
see,
on
the
right
hand,
side
the
pie,
chart
access
has
been
above
26
percent
of
our
work
for
the
year
and
building
trust
has
been
about
33
percent,
but
it
makes
sense
because
in
May
at
digital
access,
Day
and
Ottawa
Andrew
was
in
town
and
and
helped
us
launch
the
report
from
our
IOT
security
initiative
that
we
relied
in
Canada
connecting
the
world
for
the
first
six
months.
B
Katie
had
mentioned
the
the
broadcasting
and
telecommunications
act
review.
We
worked
with
the
review
panel
to
help
facilitate
meetings
in
the
north
and
in
indigenous
communities
coming
out
of
our
work
with
indigenous
communities.
The
panel
actually
freed
up
money
to
hire
a
an
indigenous
liaison,
which
they
have
told
us,
was
a
direct
result
of
the
work
of
the
Internet
Society
I
think
this
will
flip
a
bit.
The
second
half
of
the
year
were
building
towards
the
third
digit
is
connectivity
summit,
which
will
be
held
November
12
to
15
in
Hilo.
B
Hawaii
put
it
in
your
calendars.
Now,
that's
gonna
be
a
huge
lift
for
us
for
the
rest
of
the
year,
but
but
it's
it's
well
worth
it.
It's
it's
a
great
event
and
we'll
talk
a
little
bit
more
about
that
in
a
little
bit
next
slide
Kevin
so
connecting
the
world
Katy
talked
a
lot
of
access,
as
they
did,
and
generally
people
look
at
access
issues
as
as
sort
of
a
global
self
versus
the
the
North
issue.
B
But
in
North
America
there
are
a
significant
number
of
people
who
aren't
online
or
have
who
have
some
quality
access,
and
it's
indigenous
you
and
Arctic
communities
that
are
that
are
for
the
most
part
affected.
You
could
say
it
is
a
north-south
issue:
southern
Canada
southern
us,
its
first
since
the
Arctic.
So
a
lot
of
our
work
this
year
has
been
focused
on
connecting
Arctic
communities.
B
We
held
the
last
indigenous
connectivity
summit
in
Inuvik
in
the
Northwest
Territories,
which
is
200
kilometers
north
of
the
Arctic
Circle
coming
out
of
that
were
some
very
strong
partnerships
with
an
Inuit
land
claim
organization
called
the
new
VLO
at
regional
corporation,
who
asked
us
to
work
with
them
on
on
helping
connect
their
remote
communities.
Katie
will
talk
about
that.
B
They
would
have
25
people
holding
a
blanket
made
out
of
skin
and
they
would
pull
on
it
to
throw
someone
up
in
the
air,
so
they
could
see
over
the
next
hill
to
see
if
caribou
were
there
or
see
who
was
over
there.
So
they
saw
this
connection
between
you
know,
satellites
in
the
sky
and
and
throwing
people
up
in
the
air.
It's
the
traditional
satellite
I
guess
next
light
Kevin,
so
Katie
I'll
get
you
to
talk
about
the
connecting
the
NWT.
G
So,
as
I
talked
about
earlier,
rural
and
remote
areas
are
a
key
priority
both
for
us
and
luckily
for
the
Canadian
government
in
terms
of
projects
and
funding.
These
areas
are
notoriously
underserved,
not
only
in
terms
of
Internet
but
really
in
terms
of
everything
else,
and
the
long
term
goal
here
is
to
ensure
that
everyone
has
the
opportunity
to
have
access
to
the
Internet
on
their
own
terms,
and
rural
and
remote
communities
in
particular
are
incredibly
resilient
and
they
are
incredibly
used
to
solving
their
own
problems.
G
They
there
is
a
sense
of
community
and
a
sense
of
those
kind
of
do-it-yourself
that
is,
in
my
experience,
not
present
in
that
way
and
in
other
areas,
and
so
we
really
believe
that
if
these
communities
had
the
opportunity
to
receive
training,
it
would
not
be
hard
for
them
to
run
their
own
networks.
So
community
networks
are
something
we
hope
will
be
highly
successful
in
these
areas
and
we're
also
really
lucky
that
we
have
some
very
strong
partnerships
in
this
area.
G
Sorry,
those
are
the
Inupiat
regional
corporation
in
which
in
tribal
associations
and
others
and
they're,
really
working
with
us
closely
to
provide
training
and
support
to
these
communities
and
they've
also
agreed
to
work
closely
on
the
management
of
new
networks.
So
I'll
talk
about
this
more
on
the
next
slide,
but
I
think
this
is
one
of
our
most
interesting
projects
and
also
one
of
our
biggest
priorities,
because
it
really
does
pull
together
all
of
the
teams
within
the
Internet
Society.
This
is
not
a
project
that
we
can
do
in
a
vacuum.
G
It's
not
something
we
can
do
by
ourselves
and
so
we're
working
really
closely
with
Jane
and
the
rest
of
the
community
networks
team
with
the
communications
department
with
the
public
policy
Department,
because
we're
going
to
need
everyone's
support
for
this
to
become
the
strong
and
successful
project
that
we
think
it
can
be.
If
you
go
to
the
next
slide,
this
is
talking
about
aluja
talk
and,
as
Mark
mentioned,
I
went
to
Luke
tuck
in
June
of
this
year
to
do
some
community
consultations
and
it's
important
to
say
to
at
the
last
indigenous
connectivity
summit.
B
G
One
thing
across
the
board
that
people
said
was
consult
with
the
communities.
They
know
more
about
themselves
than
we
can
ever
know,
and
so
the
first
step
to
making
sure
that
this
project
would
be
successful
and
wanted
was
to
go
there
and
meet
with
community
members
and
ask
first
you
want
different
access
to
the
Internet
and
lucky
for
us.
The
answer
was
a
resounding
yes,
and
the
second
question
was:
do
you
want
to
be
in
charge
of
that
access?
G
Do
you
want
to
put
in
the
time
and
the
hours
to
completing
trainings,
to
run
your
own
network
and
to
operate
it
and
manage
it
moving
forward?
And
again
the
answer
was
a
resounding
yes,
so
we're
very
excited
about
that
and
it's
led
to
the
creation
of
a
lot
of
new
partnerships
that
we're
hoping
will
be
highly
successful
in
the
coming
year.
So
and
as
Mark
mentioned,
the
population
is
really
low.
You
know
this
estimates.
It's
about
400.
G
Everyone
was
kind
of
off
the
land
doing
and
for
hunting
season.
When
I
was
there
so
I,
don't
know
the
exact
number
and
the
people
that
I
asked
also
don't
know
the
exact
number
and
I
need
this
to
say
it's
very,
very
small
and,
as
you
can
see
from
this
picture,
the
community
is
shaped
into
you.
So
almost
everyone
in
the
community
lives
in
a
really
ideal
position
or
an
access
network
that
they
own
and
operate,
because
it's
not
going
to
take
a
lot
of
equipment.
G
There
is
not
a
huge
amount
of
land
that
we
have
to
cover
with
the
network,
so
it's
really
ideally
positioned
for
a
cien
right
now
there
are
satellite
dependent
and
they
get
incredibly
low
speeds
for
incredibly
high
costs
and
they're
also
being
charged
for
services
that
they
can't
get.
If
they
want
to
have
internet
access,
they
have
to
buy
a
bundled
package
that
includes
phone
service,
but
phone
service
isn't
available
in
the
community
and
I
talked
to
many
community
members,
and
they
said
they
frequently
get
charged
for
long-distance
calls.
G
But
it's
literally
not
possible
to
get
phone
service
in
the
community,
so
they
were
all
too
ready
to
launch
their
own
Network
and
they
have
a
lot
of
ideas
for
what
that
network
would
look
like
and
he
would
run
it
and
we're
really
excited
about
that.
So
to
date,
over
the
last
I
guess
month
and
a
half
now
almost
two
months.
The
first
thing
that
we
wanted
to
do
was
create
really
strong
community
partnerships.
G
So
now
we're
building
this
training
course
that
will
be
really
specific
to
tribal
rural
and
remote
areas,
and
the
hope
is
that
we
will
begin
offering
the
training
course
a
new
hot
chuck
in
mid-september
the
idea
being
that
hunting
season
will
end
around
the
end
of
August
and
will
be
many
more
people
in
the
community
with
much
more
time
on
their
hands.
To
take
this
training
course,
yeah.
B
G
It
was
primarily
and
the
Mayor
was
there,
the
community
before
were
there.
Heads
of
the
hamlet
office
met
with
the
principal
of
the
school
and
each
of
those
individuals
said.
Not
only
are
they
supportive
of
this
training,
but
they
themselves
want
to
take
it,
because,
even
if
they
aren't
the
ones
to
run
the
network,
they
want
to
know
how
to
do
these
things
too,
and
if
anything
goes
wrong.
G
So
I
was
really
excited
to
see
that
this
was
a
project
that
the
community
saw
as
something
worth
investing
a
considerable
amount
of
time
in
from
the
lens
of
so
many
different
high
level
organizations
and
local
and
run
initiative
initiative.
So
that
was
fantastic
and
I've
also
been
really
excited
because
across
the
board,
the
community
wants
this
to
happen
as
soon
as
possible.
G
We
found
out
just
this
week
actually
that
the
hamlet
office
is
going
to
run
a
survey
at
the
community,
starting
this
upcoming
week
and
they're
going
to
ask
who
has
access
to
the
Internet
right
now
and
who
would
be
willing
to
switch
to
a
community
run
network
so
I'm
very
pleased.
We're
gonna
have
access
to
high
quality
data
right
away
so
that
by
the
time
this
network
is
deployed,
they
already
have
a
list
of
people
who
are
willing
to
sign
up
for
it,
and
the
hope
is
that
we
could
build
this
network
go
and
finish.
G
The
training
in
the
community
do
the
hands-on
technical
piece
and
flip
the
switch
to
turn
it
on
by
the
end
of
this
year,
but
with
winter
weather,
it's
kind
of
a
TBD
right
now,
and
it
will
also
be
a
little
bit
dependent
on
what
the
community
thinks
is
feasible.
So,
even
though,
right
now,
I'm
hearing
people
won
it
by
the
end
of
2019.
If
we
do
you
this
training
and
they
say
wait
a
minute,
we
need
to
train
ten
more
people
before
we
can
launch
it,
then
we'll
launch
an
early
2020
and.
B
Just
so
you
know
in
these
communities
these
are
very
remote
and
they're.
Flying
only
there's,
there's
no
roads,
the
interest
communities
are
really
far
away
and
the
shippin
season
is
is
really
short.
There's
this
picture
here
is
in
June
and
it's
still
frozen
right.
There's
no
bar
just
going
in
with
supplies.
There's
about
a
six
week
window
every
year,
where
you
can
get
some
supplies
in
and
the
plane
that
flies
in
as
anything
attest
is,
is
really
small.
It's
really
really
really
small,
like
nine
people.
G
And
I
should
mention
also
I,
don't
know
if
you
can
see
it
very
clearly
in
this
in
this
photo.
It
shows
up
for
me,
but
only
because
I've
got
a
big
screen
here,
but
at
the
very
bottom
of
that
you
shape
there's
a
building
up
on
the
hill,
it's
a
little
bit
longer
than
the
others,
and
that's
the
Education
Center
and
that's
actually
in
the
building,
where
we
hope
to
put
the
equipment,
because
it's
right
next
to
their
diesel,
generated
electric
grid,
and
it
also
is
really
high
up.
G
G
The
targeted
who
have
talked
originally
because
the
community
approach
the
IRC
and
was
really
excited
to
start
implementing
this
work
and
really
was
calling
for
help
in
launching
their
own
community
network.
And
it's
our
hope
that
these
other
communities
would
get
to
that
point
as
well.
So
at
this
point
we're
offering
as
much
information
as
we
can
and
after
we've
piloted
the
training
program
and
in
Oaxaca
we'll
also
offer
it
to
these
communities
in
the
hopes
of
they'll.
G
Take
the
training
course
and
we
can
help
them
launch
their
own
community
networks
as
well,
because
again,
the
Northwest
Territories
is
really
well
positioned
for
this
work.
They
are
very
used
to
solving
their
problems.
They
just
need
some
help
with
the
training
and
that's
something
that
we
think
the
Internet
Society
does
very
well.
B
Next
slide,
so,
as
I
said,
the
next
indigenous
connectivity
summit
will
be
in
in
Hilo
Hawaii
in
in
November,
with
partnered,
with
a
number
of
organizations,
the
University
University
of
Alberta
when
Bethany
has
already
spoken
about,
but
we
have
another
a
number
of
on-the-ground
partners,
including
the
chapter
and
indigenous
organizations.
The
summit's
really
become
a
premier
event
in
North
America
for
connecting
indigenous
communities
next
slide.
B
So
one
of
the
unique
things
about
the
summit
is
that
we
hold
a
two-day
comforts
like
event,
and
then
we
have
two
days
of
training
for
four
participants
at
the
summit
for
people
who
want
to
deploy
and
operate
a
community
network.
We
were
approached
by
a
community
called
buho
Noah
Oh,
wha
Manalo
in
in
Hawaii.
It
has
a
population
of
about
80.
The
population
is
about
80
people,
it's
all
indigenous.
They
currently
have
no
internet
access
whatsoever.
B
So
for
the
training
program
for
this
year's
indigenous
activity
summit
will
actually
be
in
the
community.
Deploying
a
network
will
do
the
hands-on
on
the
ground
and
hopefully
be
able
to
actually
flip
a
switch
and
and
have
have
the
community
connected
to.
Basically,
what
will
amount
to
a
community
Y
flight
project,
fascinating,
fascinating
community
next
line
in
terms
of
other
access
work,
we're
working
on
a
short
paper
on
what
are
the
economic
impacts
of
community
networks
on
indigenous
communities?
B
So
in
terms
of
successes
to
date,
through
a
lot
of
work
and
a
lot
of
meetings
that
we've
done,
the
Government
of
Canada
recently
committed
to
publicly
funding
community
networks.
The
CRTC
are
our
regulator.
They
have
something
called
the
broadband
fund,
750
million
dollars
available
for
communities
to
connect.
We
worked
closely
with
them
to
ensure
that
the
criteria
was
merit.
They
stand
and
not
reverse
auction.
We
were
successful
with
that
and
their
broadband
fund
application
guide
explicitly
references
five
of
the
recommendations
from
the
last
indigenous
connectivity
summit.
B
B
J
K
You
Mike
I,
submit
pleasure
to
be
to
be
here.
It's
privileged
to
be
presenting
to
you,
especially
among
from
familiar
faces
and
recent
addition
to
the
ISO
North
American
Bureau,
just
joined
1
months
ago,
and
that
have
been
engaged
with
the
Canadian
Matthias
under
process
for
the
year.
Since
it's
what
accepted
in
April
that,
with
2018.
K
The
the
Canadian
multi-stakeholder
process
had
a
long
term
outcome
to
to
provide
end-users
was
a
section
for
intense
security
when
they
use
Internet
connected
devices.
It
became,
became,
and
recently
quite
clear
to
the
Canadian
government
that
I
said
and
to
shock
and
other
the
future
in
general
that
the
adoption
of
the
smart
devices
it's
on
the
rise.
Nobody
in
Canada
is
no
exception,
and
it
was
clear
also
that
consumers
are
lacking
awareness
when
making
decisions
to
provide
to
purchase
devices
that
it
has
security
measures
and
have
also
don't
have
the
sufficient
knowledge
deploy.
K
We
as
preparation
for
this
project
we
identified
or
soar
surveyed
what
kind
of
initiatives
have
been
taking
place
globally
and
initiatives,
particularly
in
the
UK
with
the
digital
culture
and
media
and
sport
Department
of
the
government
of
the
UK
in
Europe
in
Australia.
They
all
of
them
are
starting
to
come
up
with
frameworks
for
IOT
device,
security
and
and
a
common
ground
for
for
coming
up
with
set
of
solid
recommendations,
and
next
slide.
Please.
K
So
in
this,
and
in
this
project,
which
took
a
year,
we
had
many
six
face-to-face
meetings
among
the
multi-stakeholder
community
and
and
several
conference
calls
on
a
regular
basis
to
come
up
with
the
draft
recommendations
in
three
three
specific
dimensions.
One
of
that,
once
the
first
one
is
committee
awareness
and
education
treaty
to
see
what
kind
of
the
demand
side
from
from
the
consumer
and
consumer
side
how
to
raise
the
voice
of
the
consumer
and
on
the
supply
side,
one
from
the
vendor
or
the
manufacturer
of
the
smart
device.
K
What
kind
of
certification
framework
and
adherence
security
principles
should
the
manufacturer
Meany
adopt
and
leverage
needs
as
a
competitive
advantage
when
he's
selling
selling
his
product
and
having
a
certification
of
compliance,
particularly
security
framework
and
from
a
second
dimension,
was
on
the
natural
presidency.
Part
particularly
form
the
home
gateway
component.
We
identified
that
the
home
gateway
is
the
most
critical
to
the
home
network.
K
A
protection
of
the
devices
behind
the
home,
great
gateway,
as
well
as
protection
from
the
network
from
any
abnormal
behavior
in
the
sensor
device
inside
the
home
was
a
critical,
critical
challenge
that
the
quad
really
attention
and
the
the
group
in
consultation
with
with
other
members
in
the
community,
with
Sarah
identified
the
muds.
The
manufacturer
usage
description
protocol
of
the
IETF
to
be
a
very
good
starting
point
and
provide
an
extension
to
that
that
protocol.
K
For
the
home
gateway
might
in
its
own,
in
this
current
form
focus
on
enterprise
network
deployment
and
one
hour
the
focus
was
on
consumer
networks.
Having
an
extension
to
that
that
could
be
brought
for
ATF
for
further
strand
transition
is
part
of
the
of
the
project
that
Syria
is
needing
the
development
of
the
the
software
which
will
be
open-sourced
for
for
for
consumption
in
May,
2000,
nineteen,
the
third
dimension
of
of
the
projects
we
mentioned
consumer
education,
Network,
kinetic
resiliency
and
IOT
device
label.
K
So
it
came
clear
that
coming
up
with
recommendations
and
how
to
certify
the
manufactures
compliance
particular
security
features
particular
secure
particular
security
standards
and
having
a
certification
entity
that
could
be
government
accredited
and,
as
a
result
of
this,
aggradation
label
would
be
put
on
the
IOT
device
that
certifies
compliance
with
with
the
particular
standard.
The
device
label
could
include
two
main
components:
a
trust
mark
which
user
really
already
knows.
K
For
example,
CCSA
in
North,
America
or
C
II
in
Europe
is
already
known
and
trusted
that
trust
marks,
as
well
as
a
different,
nearly
aesthetic
component,
which
were
and
the
different
label
of
different
label,
which
is
that
live
label.
It's
a
machine-readable
component
that
can
be
at,
for
example,
a
QR
QR
code
when
scanned
refers
to
a
URL
to
a
website
built
by
manufacturer,
who
has
listening
of
the
latest,
firmware
the
vulnerability,
the
scooter
and
and
also
configuration
recommendations
how
to
secure
device
once
deployed
in
the
in
the
home
network.
K
Second,
that
the
direction
in
the
global
and
global
engagement
of
this
initiative,
as
I
mentioned
there,
were
similar
initiatives
happening
in
Europe
and
the
UK
NIST
in
the
in
the
u.s.
in
Australia
and
I
use.
A
IOT
security
platform
also
would
establish,
which
is
really
a
collaboration
among
interested
party.
K
K
K
Digital
government
society
conference
that
took
place
in
Dubai
a
part
of
the
ACM
publication
on
IOT
security
and
consumer
trust.
The
framework,
the
Canadian
framework
that
we
have
worked
on,
as
well
as
the
other
frameworks
that
were
coming
from
the
UK
and
from
the
US
and
from
Europe,
and
it
has
received
quite
quite
good
reviews.
It
is
also
worth
mentioning
that,
before
public
publishing
our
report,
we
received
written
reviews
from
DCMS
from
from
NIST
as
well
as
from
and
the
I
said.
K
I
said
an
OTA
about
the
content
content
of
the
report
and
try
to
normalize
what
what
we
are
actually
recommending.
An
important
component
of
the
continuation
of
this
work
is
to
stand,
try
to
standardize
our
recommendations
and
there
are
days
at
work
to
sunrise,
the
the
enabling
labeling
framework
or
a
version,
a
version
of
it
in
the
CSA
200
centralization
process
between
us
and
then
within
the
ISO
framework
within
the
2,700
2,700
family
of
ISO
standard,
and
this
is
a
continual,
ongoing
ongoing
process.
K
L
B
G
I
think
pretty
quickly
on
these
I'm
happy
to
talk
more
about
any
of
them
of
interest
during
the
Q&A
part
on
privacy.
This
was
a
big
focus
for
us
early
in
q1,
when
it
seems
like
it
was
likely
that
we
could
pass
something
in
the
United
States.
That
being
said,
it's
now
q3
and
we
are
still
waiting
for
this
out
coming
a
collaborative
bill,
but
we
are
really
lucky
in
that
we
created
during
that
time
when
we
thought
the
bill
was
pretty
imminent.
G
We
created
this,
which
you
can
see
on
the
side
here:
10
goals
for
good
privacy
protection
law
that
was
actually
picked
up
by
a
congressional
office
and
when
they
produced
a
bill,
I
would
use
it's
draft
stage.
They
actually
use
seven
of
our
ten
recommendations
and
asked
us
to
provide
expert
feedback
on
the
bill
itself,
so
we're
really
thrilled
that
seven
of
those
goals
has
already
been
included
and
we're
hopeful
that
the
additional
three
will
be
included
before
the
bill
is
actually
introduced
on
encryption.
G
This
is,
unfortunately,
something
that
we
think
we'll
have
to
spend
a
lot
of
time
on
at
the
end
of
this
year
and
throughout
next
year
and
the
foreseeable
future.
But
we
thought
that
this
might
be
something
we'd
be
spending
a
lot
of
time
on.
G
So
since
early
this
year,
we
focused
really
closely
in
both
the
US
and
Canada
on
building
strong
partnerships
and
I've
actually
joined
a
really
strong
coalition
in
the
United
States,
and
that
includes
academics
and
civil
society
and
many
other
stakeholder
groups
that
is
focused
on
ensuring
that
across
the
world,
when,
especially
in
North
America,
our
focus,
we
are
guaranteed
strong
encryption
for
for
all
devices
and
platforms.
So
we'll
keep
you
posted
on
how
that
goes,
and
on
manners.
G
We've
done
a
lot
of
work,
especially
with
our
partners
in
the
technical
community,
to
both
bring
more
members
into
the
Manics
program,
but
also
to
promote
manners
as
a
political
solution,
so
that
governments
don't
over
regulate
the
marketplace.
So
now
that
the
observatory
has
been
launched,
we're
hopeful
that
that
will
help
us
a
lot
in
our
goal
of
convincing
politicians
not
to
do
anything
that
will
over
regulate
and
then
on.
The
IOT
campaign-
and
this
has
line
just
talked
about-
we've-
had
a
lot
of
successes
there.
G
Sure
so
one
of
our
biggest
goals
is
to
foster
collaborative
approach
and
one
of
the
ways
that
we
did,
that
was
by
launching
a
multi
stakeholder
group
of
net
neutrality
experts
to
see
if
they
could
come
up
with
consensus,
driven
principles
for
net
neutrality
in
the
United
States.
Ultimately,
these
experts
were
able
to
do
that
and
we're
we're
very
pleased
with
them.
G
It
is
certainly
not
the
last
that
we
will
hear
of
net
neutrality,
but
we
were
really
pleased
that
experts
could
come
together
and
find
common
ground
on
high-level
principles
and,
as
a
result,
actually
we've
continued
building.
Some
very
strong
partnerships
from
participants
of
that
group
and
we're
also
I
mean
most
of
the
work
that
we're
doing
at
this
point
is
collaborative
everything
from
access
to
the
Northwest
Territories
to
the
ICS,
to
manners
to
everything
else
and
we're
also
working
really
closely
with
our.
G
Our
chapters
have
been
a
critical
partner
in
all
of
our
work
and
we're
thrilled
with
the
two
new
chapters
that
are
going
to
be
launched
this
year
and
then
on
policy
engagement,
and
we
work
really
closely
and
really
well
with
government
and
agencies
in
both
the
US
and
Canada,
which
is
fantastic
and
we've
been
very
lucky
that,
as
a
result
of
our
work,
we've
had
some
pretty
significant
impacts
on
on
policy
and
on
different
proposals
and
bills
in
the
US
and
Canada
in
2019.
Thanks.
B
Kitty
next
slide,
so
one
of
the
things
I
wanted
to
have
Natalie
talk
about
a
little
bit.
Is
we've
had
tremendous
success
this
year
in
getting
considerable
media
attention
and
and
really
high-quality,
maybe
attention
so
I
want
it
not
only
to
talk
a
bit
about
what
we've
done
this
year,
that's
been
different
than
what
we've
done
in
the
past,
not
only
thanks.
L
Mark
and
thanks
everybody
for
having
me
here
today,
so
essentially
in
early
2019,
the
strategic
communications
of
pharmacologic
in
North
America,
to
help
strengthen
the
internet
societies
regional
voice
while
developing
a
cohesive
global
presence.
So
essentially,
they
assigned
a
dedicated
resource
to
work
with
the
North
American
regional
Bureau
team
to
help
reach
local
audiences
with
more
relevant
and
targeted
communications,
but
also
to
help
to
help
them
achieve
their
regional
goals.
L
So
we
focused
on
doing
this
by
delivering
clear
communications
that
help
people
understand
what
we
do
and
also
creating
regional
strategies
that
make
our
audiences
care
about
a
work
and
want
to
support
it.
So
whether
the
goal
was
static,
educate,
policymakers,
on
how
to
make
it
easier
for
communities
to
build
their
own
internet
solutions
or
going
into
an
Arctic
community
of
300
and
explain
to
them
that
it
is
possible
to
build
a
solution
that
that
they
can
do
it.
L
L
To
me
personally,
I'm
a
northwest
territories
resident
myself,
and
you
know
the
bureau's
ability
to
have
been
able
to
influence
CRTC
to
prioritize
access
funds
to
the
hardest
to
connect
place.
This
first
is
just
as
much
of
a
common
for
me,
as
you
know,
being
able
to
go
into
the
Arctic
community
of
little
hectic
and
and
have
elders,
and
even
the
mayor
signed
up
for
Community
Network
training
so
that
they
may
build
their
own
connectivity
solutions.
L
So
one
of
our
big
learnings
this
year
is
that
we
are
definitely
stronger
together
than
we
are
apart.
We've
learned
that
working
the
internet
way
collaboration
is
absolutely
critical
to
our
success
and
that's
as
much
true
within
our
bureau,
so
working
together
with
the
comms
policy
and
community
engagement
and
other
departments,
and
it's
just
this
true-
is
working
with
our
communities
on
the
front
lines
of
the
internet,
that,
as
our
members
chapters
and
partners,
and
also
influencers
who
care
about
and
want
to
help
us
support,
support
our
work.
L
So
I
would
say
that
a
lot
of
our
successes
that
my
colleagues
have
talked
about
today
on
access
privacy,
IOT
security.
They
were
bolstered
by
multi-channel
campaigns,
in
which
our
community
played
a
huge
role
in
helping
us
speak
with
a
louder
voice
to
the
right
people
to
help
us
achieve
and
even
surpass
our
goals.
That's
absolutely
critical
to
our
success,
I
think
and
definitely
going
forward,
something
that
we're
working
into
our
strategies
to
to
carry
out
our
our
efforts
throughout
the
rest
of
the
year,
especially
in
terms
of
access.
Thank
you.
B
A
A
problem
I
mean
we
studied
a
bit
later,
so
that's
completely.
Okay
and
and
yesterday
we
were
actually
taking
care
of
a
few
of
the
agenda
points
we
have
in
the
afternoon.
So
so
we
are
okay
and,
and
we
have
flexibility
mid
lines.
So
thanks
a
lot
I
mean
this
was
a
very
comprehensive
presentation
on
all
your
activities.
I
mean
we
are
very
happy
to
see
that
you
guys
are
collaborating
not
only
externally,
but
also
internally
with
other
parts
of
ISO,
which
is
you
know,
one
of
the
things
we
always
encourage.
A
You
know
different
teams
to
do
so.
That's
really
great
and,
as
usual,
I
mean
I'm
really
happy
to
have
seen
now
all
the
basically
regionals
viewers,
you
know
present
to
the
board,
and
so
we
have
a
really
much
better
understanding
of
what's
going
on
in
the
English
renze.
So
to
speak
as
opposed
to
you
know,
I
mean
we
are
quite
familiar
with
this
direction
and
everything,
but
you
know
how
to
you
know
that
kind
of
direction.
Crystallizes.
A
You
know
it's
really
nice
to
see.
You
know
basically
where,
where
the
rubber
hits
the
road
you
know,
which
is
you
know
what
what
you
guys
are
doing,
and
we
highly
appreciate
that
so
I'm
sure
we
have
a
few
questions
because
I
see
some
trustees
already
signaling.
Something
to
me
so
I
think,
while
it
is
first
first.
M
Of
all,
really
congratulations,
remarkable
effort
and
and
embed
that
you're
welcoming
the
same,
an
expert
that
I've
come
to
know
for
a
long
time.
So
that's
a
very
good
asset
that
you
have
there.
One
thing
I'd
like
to
refer
to
I
mean
this
is
more
or
less
like
a
deja
vu
moment
for
us,
since
we've
been
through
this
in
Asia
and
Africa,
and
so
it
looks
like
AIESEC
is
beginning
to
build
the
profile
of
seeking
out
really
implementing
on-the-ground
projects
of
this
sort,
but
practically
speaking,
I
do
I'm
interested,
maybe
I'm,
not
sure.
M
If
you
can
answer
Andrew
I
mean
how
is
the
process
itself,
I
mean.
How
do
you
select
regions,
for
example
you
target,
and
you
have
some
database-
is
it
by
demand
and
first
in
terms
of
selection,
of
where
to
approach?
And,
secondly,
how
do
you
develop
the
project
from
the
ground
up
front
and,
for
example,
do
you
already
have
a
template?
You
already
have
a
system
of
training
that
is
very
fixed,
flexible,
agile,
you
customize,
it
I
mean
what
tools
do
you
use?
B
That's
actually
an
excellent
question
and
in
a
way
this
is,
this
is
new
to
us
in
North,
America
lulu,
hogg
duck
is
the
first
community
that
we've
worked
with
and
Waimanalo
will
be
the
second
and
we
chose
both
of
those
communities.
Well,
Huk
Huk
is
in
what's
called
the
Inuvialuit
settlement
region
and
they
have
a
self
governing
body
called
the
the
new
Bialik
regional
corporation.
They
were
a
partner
for
the
last
indigenous
connectivity.
Some
had
been
in
2018.
B
We
will
have
cut
the
newly
L
at
regional
corporation.
The
self
governing
body
approached
us
to
say
how
can
we
work
with
you
to
as
connectivity
in
our
smaller
communities
we
agreed
and
it
went
to
their
Board
of
Directors
and
their
Board
of
Directors
selected
lulu
hogg
chuck
as
the
community
that
that
we
should
work
with.
So
in
a
way
that
was
self
selecting
similar
with
the
community
in
Hawaii
Wyman
alone,
they
self
selected
a
they.
They
approached
us.
Both
communities
approached
us
and
we
don't
have
plans
on
doing
a
lot
of
this
work.
B
The
the
one
in
Aloha
tuck
is,
is
really
a
pilot
and
to
show
that
it
can
be
done
and
can
be
done
cheaply
in
the
hopes
that
communities
will
will
take
it
on
on
their
own
and
and
do
it.
The
key.
The
key
goal
of
the
indigenous
connectivity
summit
isn't
to
hold
an
event
it's
to
bring
together
people
from
indigenous
communities
across
North
America
to
form
a
continent-wide
network,
so
that
communities
can
work
together
to
build
connectivity
that
so
it
can
be
this
self-sustaining
support
network.
B
If
a
community
has
poor
access
and
wants
to
play
a
community
network,
they
shouldn't
have
to
come,
go
to
the
government
or
go
to
the
Internet
Society
in
the
indigenous
world
in
North
America.
They
should
be
able
to
go
to
the
indigenous
community
in
North
America,
for
support
and
and
help
building
that
work.
B
So
really
what
we're
trying
to
do
is
is
is
back
away
from
it.
We're
trying
to
build
a
network
across
North
America
to
be
able
to
step
away,
Waimanalo
and-
and
we
were
really
just
sort
of
pilot
projects
to
show
that
it
can
be
done,
not
that
we
won't
support
communities
and
I
come
to
speak
with
us.
But
what
was
it?
And
your
second
question
was
so
that's,
that's
a
really
interesting
one.
B
There
are
very
many
training
programs
out
there
and
the
Internet
Society
has
a
training
program
what
there,
because,
when
we
talk
about
doing
training
for
community
networks,
it's
not
just
the
technical
side.
The
technical
side
is
actually
the
easiest
thing
right,
I'm
sure
those
people
in
the
room
realize
that
the
hard
part
are
stop
more
social
skills
in
in
creating
a
sustainable
network,
so
we're
working
with
a
number
of
groups
to
develop
training
materials
on
everything,
from
finances
to
project
management,
to
digital
literacy,
cyber
security
training,
all
of
it
governance
for
the
network.
B
B
A
training
program
and
that's
our
job
through
August,
is,
is
actually
pulling
together
those
resources
and
making
them
culturally
relevant
for
the
communities
that
work
for
working
in
blue
hooked
up.
So
a
really
interesting
community,
because
English
isn't
the
dominant
language
there
enough
that
it
is
so
we're
having
to
translate
a
number
of
items
into
enough
to
it,
and
you
can
imagine
you
know
a
very
strong
indigenous
language
doesn't
necessarily
have
existing
terms
for
things
like
spectrum,
so
we're
having
to
work
with
with
different.
C
So
all
of
the
things
that
mark
is
talking
about
I
think
part
of
the
way
you're
making
is
that
you've
heard
this
in
other
in
other
bureaus
and
I.
Think
that
a
critical
thing
to
understand
about
the
way
that
a
lot
of
these
projects
come
together
is
that
it?
It
really
depends
on
the
sort
of
human
network
that
the
people
in
the
various
regions
so
there's
a
lot
of
a
lot
of
good
connections
among
the
staff
on
the
ground
and
the
people
that
they're
dealing
with
and
that's
true
and
all
across
all
of
the
regions.
C
You
find
that
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
that
our
staff
are
able
to
do.
They've
got
a
lot
of
good
good
links
and
so
on,
and
this
is
one
of
the
things
that
we
were
talking
a
lot
about
measurement
yesterday.
This
is
one
of
the
things
that
is
really
hard
to
measure
in
our
activities,
because
some
of
that
stuff
is
just
like.
You
have
to
maintain
those
relationships
and
sort
of
build.
The
muffin-
and
you
know,
know
all
of
these
people
and
then
realize.
C
Oh
they're
doing
this
thing
or
they're
interested
in
this
thing.
We
know
how
to
you
know
how
to
kind
of
move
them
along
in
that
direction.
So
some
of
it
is
you
know
we
we
identify
sort
of
priorities
at
the
beginning
of
the
year
or
you
know
during
the
or
whatever.
But
then
we
have
to
be
a
little
bit
opportunistic
about
when
things
come
along
and
it's
like.
Oh,
this
is
definitely
an
opportunity
to
do
it.
C
An
example
of
this
actually
was
was
the
thing
that
Katie
was
mentioning
sort
of
in
passing
about
the
the
the
effort
around
network
neutrality
of
the
United
States.
This
was
not
an
area
of
a
sort
of
front
burner,
for
us
was
not
something,
and,
and
anyway,
it
doesn't
actually
carry
over
into
any
what
else,
because
the
problem,
the
United
States,
has
something
very
much
to
do
with
the
way
the
laws
are
written,
and
so
it's
not
it's
not
actually
interesting
for
the
rest
of
the
world
because
they
have
a
stupid
problem.
C
That
is
really
actually
a
consequence
of
the
way
the
law
has
evolved
over
time
and
and
and
nevertheless,
I
mean
there
was
this
opportunity.
There
were
various
people
who
are
involved
in
everything
like
that,
and
it
really
is
an
opportunity
to
kind
of
move
that
along
so
we
yeah
okay.
C
A
And
thanks
I
mean
we
I
know
that
we
have
been
very
kind
of
measuring
thing,
but
we
always
wanted
sometimes
the
challenges.
So
I
have
I
mean
I'm
building
up
at
you.
When
I
said
we
don't
have
any
time
constraints
I
meant
we
can.
We
can
a
few
questions.
Okay,
because
I
had
your
paper
Olga
now
I
have
on
speed,
I
have
Glen.
A
So
let's
take
those
four
questions:
if
that's
okay
and
then
any
follow-up
questions,
we
will
take
them
during
the
lines,
because
you
know
we
will
have
lines
together
because
I
mean
I
kind
of
knew
that
you
know
there
were
a
lot
of
comments
and
questions
to
that.
So
you
know
the
queue
again
and
pepper
all
got
hands
beater
and
length,
so
pepper.
Please
thank.
N
You
so
I
was
going
to
actually
suggest
taking
some
of
these
offline.
A
couple
of
comments
do
that
over
lunch,
but
picking
up
on
Andrews
point
about
being
opportunistic
again
details
over
lunch,
the
FCC
just
put
out
is
putting
out
a
you
actually
vote
this
week
on
a
notice
to
create
something
called
the
rural
digital
opportunities
fund.
N
It's
going
to
be
several
billions
in
the
US
for
those
who
are
not
connected
and
I
think
that
this
there's
so
two
things
one
again
I
sock
does
not
lobby,
but
the
extent
to
which,
where
the
FCC
lands
permits
not
just
fixed
wired,
broadband
is
extremely
important,
because
I
think
there
are
real
opportunities
for
that.
Our
community
networks
initiatives
with
real
money,
that's
be.
We
do
need
to
talk
about
the
net
neutrality
opportunity
that
was
hijacked
by
the
telcos
and
that
it
started
out
as
broad-based.
N
A
E
You
and
congratulations
for
your
fantastic
work
coming
from
a
region
with
very
distant
locations
and
rural
areas,
I
would
like
to
tell
you
that
the
the
Catena
chapter
managed
to
install
the
most
southern
IXP
in
the
world
in
South
South
Africa
Argentina,
so
maybe
thanks
to
a
be
on
the
net
so
fun
by
the
way.
So
maybe
we
can
put
you
in
contact
with
them,
so
you
can
maybe
profit
from
their
experience.
It's
not
the
same
kind
of
population,
but
the
challenges
of
such
a
long
distance
in
the
South
may
be
helping
your
experience.
A
One
follow-up
question
because
we
always
when
I
mean
you
guys
went
very
quickly
over
it
or
or
maybe
I
missed
it,
but
usually
when,
when
we
talk
about
the
the
original
viewers,
we
talk
about
how
we
have
basically
decided
what
regions
they
are
inside
or
outside
so
so
I'm,
assuming
that
Mexico
is
actually
more
kind
of
the
Latin
America
part
of
it
right,
yeah
yeah,
just
because
I
guess,
cultural
drilling.
Everything!
Ok,
good,
ok
has
Peter!
Please.
H
Just
a
quick
one,
I
was
wondering
in
these
two
examples
of
going
into
a
town
or
Township
connecting
them.
Did
you
meet
with
other
organizations?
Goings
they're
doing
similar
things
like
bringing
clean
water.
Creating
water
makes
no
sense
the
Northwest
Territory,
but
bringing
power
at
a
affordable
level
to
those
sounds
or
did
you
do
it
on
your
boat.
B
So
we
worked
with
the
the
regional
self-governing
organization
in
Northwest.
Territories
powers
are
really
interesting
one
and
is
a
significant
challenge
in
the
north,
because
these
communities
are
so
so
far
from
away
from
each
other,
they're
actually
dependent
on
diesel
generators
yeah
and
they
ship
the
fuel
up.
But
that's
changing
Inuvik
just
got
to
proof
for
a
win
firm.
You
think
it
will.
Whether
or
not
solar
would
work.
B
O
You
thank
you
all
of
you
for
your
presentation.
I
just
want
to
comment
on
what
Lacan
said
a
second
ago.
There
were
Carla's
areas,
did
a
research
on
on
community
networking
in
Africa
in
20
over
the
22
locations,
we're
not
functioning
because
they
didn't
have
power.
So
it's
critical
to
definitely,
if
you're
doing,
community
networking
just
look
at
our
situation,
so
as
a
founder
of
I
saw
Canada
I'm
glad
to
see
that
they're
actually
doing
some
very
tangible
work.
O
Think
the
story
that
you're
telling,
whether
it's
the
mesh
network
in
my
sea
or
the
far
north
community
networking
things
both
of
those
would
be
great
stories
to
tell
and
myself
and
Alfredo
has
already
paved
the
way
to
encourage
I
sought
to
participate
for
next
year.
So
that's
one!
The
other
thing
is
the
I
Triple
E
global
humanitarian
technology
conference,
which
I'll
be
attending
and
in
October
again
great
story.
You
know
what
I'm
seeing
what
you
guys
are
doing.
It's
such
a
fantastic
job.
O
This
is
light
years
over
what
was
in
the
past
and
I'm,
not
gonna,
knock
the
staff,
but
I
think
you've
done
a
really
good
balance
between
doing
initiatives
like
not
working
and
what
Kaylee's
doing
in
policy.
It's
very
hard
to
balance.
The
two
tends
to
you
tend
to
skew
one
way
versus
another,
but
I,
don't
know
how
you've
done
it,
but
you've
done
a
great
job.
Thank.
B
A
Ok,
good,
thank
you,
so
so,
let's
take
all
the
remaining
remaining
and
questions
overland,
so
we're
gonna
break
as
planned
for
45
minutes.
But
since
we
are
15
minutes
late,
so
we
will
be
back
in
open
to
observer
session
at
1:30.
So
now
the
next
presentation
is
gonna,
be
from
our
Quebec
chapter
as
we
usually
travel
around
the
world.
As
we
said
before,
we
not
only
meet
with
our
regional
doers,
but
also
we
try
to
meet
with
the
local
chapters
and
that's
also
a
presentation.
A
P
P
First,
let
me
apologize
for
my
colleague
who
will
was
supposed
to
join
us
for
the
presentation
and
and
unfortunately
will
not
be
able
due
to
an
expecting
service
or
circumstances,
but
I'll
try
to
do
my
best
if
you
have
questions,
feel
free
to
interrupt
so
next
one,
please,
basically
about
our
chapter
as
a
Quebec.
We
were
founded
20
20
years
ago,
almost
so
next
year,
we'll
have
over
20
years
anniversary,
to
which
you
are
more
than
welcome
to
join
with
us.
We'll
probably
have
few
events
during
the
April
April
month.
P
P
People
members
residing
outside
Quebec
there
are
part
of
the
english-speaking
membership
are
going
through
eyes
of
Canada,
and
basically
we,
the
curent
team,
took
back
the
chapter
two
and
a
half
years
ago.
Obviously-
and
we
developed
that
with
the
new
expertise
we
added
people
from
ICANN
and
from
digital
media,
from
news
and
and
and
we
try
and
put
this
expertise
to
develop
few
projects,
given
the
cultural
teaming
dimension
next
slide,
please
so,
basically,
our
to
last
year's.
We
focused
on
two
main
topics:
governance
and
discoverability.
P
Next,
one
please,
basically,
governance.
We
we
organized
the
first
IGF
in
Quebec
in
2017,
was
gonna,
be
a
an
event
that
we're
conducting
every
two
years,
so
the
next
one
will
probably
be
held.
This
poll
first
we'll
need
to
set
a
date.
Given
that
will
be,
it
will
have
I
can
66
in
Montreal,
so
many
stuff
will
be
happening
in
Montreal,
this
fall
and
them,
and
we
don't
want
to
have
all
events
at
the
same
time.
So
it's
it's
useful
basic
basic
basic
results.
P
We'll
do
have
300
people
reach
that
we
were
pretty
happy
for
the
for
the
first
time
and
and
we'll
do
the
next
one
with
the
same
target
of
300
people.
Another
point
of
governance.
This
one
was
founded
by
one
of
a
local
partner,
lead
Quebec
leader
on
tonight.
The
demand
this
one
was
funded
by
the
Ministry
of
philosophy,
automation
and
folk
of
any
here
in
from
government
of
Quebec.
The
purpose
of
the
project
is
not
based
here
in
Montreal,
nor
in
Quebec,
in
space,
an
ivory
coast,
so
with
partners
there,
an
Isaac
in
in
Abidjan.
P
So
this
this
project
actually
touched
IOT
touch
big
data
to
touch
few
few
fields,
but
on
the
basic
way,
and
this
project
leads
to
another
one
that
we'll
be
presenting
a
bit
further,
that
also
funded
by
the
ministry
that
founded
this
one
next
one
place
on
the
discoverability
discoverability
part.
The
first
one
is
a
project
two
year
project
funded
by
beyond
the
net
program.
So
thanks
to
either
Isaac,
we
managed
to
render
that
project.
Basically,
Creek
Quebec
in
English
would
be
a
Quebec
local
content
and
cultural
industries.
P
Most
of
the
time
or
project
names
play
with
the
letters
of
of
the
different
part
of
the
of
the
project,
so
it
doesn't
render
give
it
in
English,
but
it's
nice
and
French
this
one.
We
started
from
a
point
of
view.
We
noticed
the
gap
between
french-speaking
content,
francophone
content
in
cultural
dimension
online,
even
in
Quebec.
So
basically,
if
you're
in
Quebec,
you
will
have
mostly
foreign
content
available
on
platforms
and-
and
we
find
it's
disappointing
not
having
local
content
and
cultural
content
available
after
the
first
promotion
based
advertising.
P
So
we
we
started
from
this
and
after
two
years
we
connected
about
fifteen
or
sixteen
different
workshops,
collecting
data
having
few
reports
that
that
were
submitted.
So
this
helped
us
to
develop
few
workshops
and
training
this
time
to
to
help
experts
in
developing
tools
or
setting
up
referencing
indexing
promotion
campaign
on
how
to
make
it
discoverable,
and
this
led
to
to
horizon,
which
is
another
play
with
with
the
letters
up.
P
So
still
it's
something
that
is
gonna
last
after
after
the
end
of
the
project
in
September
that
groups
that
gathered
researchers
to
help
again
cultural
content
to
be
discovered
online,
and
the
aim
is
also
to
have
some
experts
and
professionals
to
benefits
from
these
trainings
within
the
industry.
Basically,
they
will
be
able
to
index
the
content,
use
data
true
to
make
it
to
help
people
have
more
French
French
content
available.
P
Other
other
project
difficut,
which
is
still
based
on
their
francophone
part.
This
one
is
made
with
another
province
of
New
Brunswick
close
to
Quebec
province.
The
idea
is
to
share
frankly,
as
we
you
may
have
noticed.
We
have
a
lot
of
stuff
doing
on
the
french-speaking
part
here
in
Quebec.
That
is
really
important
for
us,
we're
eight
million
people
surrounded
by
three
hundred
more
than
300
million.
P
That
will
not
necessarily
speaking
French,
and
so
we
are
trained
to
advocate
for
the
French
language,
and
this
part,
this
project
is
also
part
of
sharing
expertise
with
people
there
are
in
New,
Brunswick
province.
This
one
is
not
necessarily
related
to
cultural
content,
might
be
related
to
communications
and
business
more
in
that
business,
like.
P
So
upcoming
projects
and
upcoming
trains-
basically
we're
still.
We
still
want
to
go
on
discoverability
and
now
that
Quebec
was
a
success,
it's
gonna
be
the
end
of
the
project
is
coming
by
September
this
year,
so
we
will
have
all
the
project.
We
already
have
all
the
project
coming
through
through
this
one.
The
the
first
project
think
Africa,
which
is
another
nice
name
in
French,
will
will
be
part
of
that
will
be
actually
the
follow-up
of
the
lead.
P
So
this
thought-
and
this
project
is
not
based
here
in
Montreal
at
the
end
of
those
projects,
where
is
in
Ivory
Coast,
the
aim
is
to
be
able
to
replicate
those
project
in
other
country
in
Africa
or
in
Europe,
mainly,
and
have
the
other
way
around
meaning
at
some
point.
We
want
damage.
You
come
here
and
share
their
experience
and
their
expertise
because
they
they
have
some
expertise.
We
don't
have
here.
P
Part
part
of
other
project
that
will
leech
the
discoverability
is
the
international
study
days.
This
one
will
be
peaceful,
so
today's
event
with
the
organizational
international
that
a
folk
often
will
be
partnering
with
uCam
University
in
Quebec.
The
aim
there
is
really
to
make
the
content
accessible
and
available
again
and
help
to
its.
There
is
part
of
advocacy
in
that,
so
we're
not
lobbying,
as
was
mentioned
earlier,
but
we'll
still
try
to
advocate
for
accessibility
and
affordability
of
search
and
some
type
of
services.
P
Next
one
please
a
few
few
big
projects
that
are
coming
up
after
that
I
will
go
over
the
discoverability,
discoverability
and
and
the
governance
topics
to
focus
more
on
the
data
part
how
data
is
used,
how
that
is
managed.
Montreal
has
been
named
last
June
the
best
place
in
the
world
to
set
up
data
center
or
already
have
like
40
or
45
here
in
the
Quebec
province.
So
we
expect
many
more
in
in
the
coming
years,
mainly
because
of
or
low-cost
electricity
rates.
P
That
is
quite
every
for
many
companies
there
and
we
also
have
a
small
ecosystem
in
many
place
and
many
fields
in
artificial
intelligence
or
IOT
few
companies.
So
this
will
be
part
of
the
coming
topics
that
that
are
considered
hot
in
Quebec.
The
smart
is
smart
cities,
part
is
a
model
we
will
try
to
develop.
That
can
be
replicated
again,
we're
already
partnering
with
some
network
in
Europe
this
time
in
France
and
with
the
company
that
is
based
in
whatever
and
with
with
few
people
based
in
the
u.s.
true.
P
So
the
idea
is
to
group,
what's
being
done,
some
others
play
in
some
other
places.
True
come
in
the
end,
will
some
sort
of
a
label
but
the
attributed
to
municipalities
and
cities,
but
not
in
the
way
it's
usually
done,
meaning
level
dealing
with
this.
The
city
has
good
transportation
whatsoever.
The
focus
here
would
be
on
the
use
for
citizens
and
the
efficiency
for
the
citizens.
P
So
the
plan
is
to
help
people
have
exist
there,
reliable
one
and
affordable
one,
because
one
of
the
problem
is
the
cost
and
it's
these
communities
cannot
really
afford
that.
We
already
talked
with
there's
somebody
in
in
Columbia
that
had
some
similar
project
was
kind
of
linked
with
the
eyes
of
capture
there,
where
the
model
could
be
replicated
in
some
part
of
some
communities
here
in
Quebec.
So
that's
gonna
be
part
of
the
future
topics
and
and
finally,
what
we,
what
we
so
again
is
like
member
engagement
for
chapters
is
kind
of
crucial.
P
P
Although
there
are
going
to
be
more
social,
so
we
focused
so
people
can
just
be
there
on
site
and
share
something
so
they're
still
gonna
be
some
some
content
for
it,
but
it's
gonna
be
more
friendly,
some
beers
and
some
snacks,
so
it's
always
motivating
for
people
to
join
that
part
of
events
and
and
basically
we
already
have
a
few
few
plan.
So
that's
gonna
be
the
first
one.
P
It's
gonna
be
not
so
far
from
I
can
66
for
those
people
being
there
at
that
time
will
pierce
our
ass,
so
just
join
us
and
I.
Think
it's
it's
done
for
our
part
for
my
presentation
quickly
about
activities
and
the
chapters.
What
we
see
about
future
topics
here
is
kind
of
really
was
related
with
the
projects
we
want
to
go
with
mostly
that
data
focused
projects.
Another
thing
that
was
mentioned
before
and
it's
quite
important
is
trust
and
data
protection.
P
It
has
some
troubles
with
the
former
employees
that
stole
three
million
people's
data
and
and
that
that
raised
the
the
the
problem
in
the
news,
but
how
the
data
is
collected,
how
it
is
used,
how
it
is
protected
over
the
Internet
and
where
it
goes
or
who
has
the
final
ownership
of
that?
So
that's
that's,
probably
something
that
we'll
we'll
be
working
on
for
the
coming
year
here
in
Quebec.
A
P
It's
gonna
be
a
November,
we'll
go
we're.
Gonna
have
a
few
events
before
and
after
there's,
gonna
be
the
North
American
school
of
governance.
They're
gonna
be
one
in
English.
There's
gonna
be
one
in
French
that
would
be
on
the
Friday
concurrently
and
we're
gonna
have
to
racially
receptions
and
allege
together.
Both
schools.
A
P
A
Q
Don't
know
if
you
were
here
before
lunch,
but
there
was
a
lot
of
stuff
about
yeah.
You
work
well!
Well,
you
saw
the
stuff
that
that
we're
doing
with
First
Nations
sort
of
up
along
the
Arctic
and
I
realized.
Northern
Quebec
is
just
as
rural
as
much
of
Nunavut
in
the
Northwest
Territories.
So
what
sort
of
what
sort
of
stuff
were
you
doing?
I
notice,
because
you
mentioned
underserved
communities,
I'm
wondering
if
you're
doing
anything
in
that
regard,.
P
Not
not
yet
that's.
Why
that's?
Why
that's
something
we
want
to
focus
on
on
the
coming
part,
because,
as
we
talked
about
the
north,
western
territories
and
northern
Quebec
they're
not
the
same
place,
but
they
have
some
common
problems.
Basically,
access
reliability
of
the
network,
affordability,
they
are
highly
dependent
on
satellite
technologies,
they
can
be
just
I
mean
if
you
want
to
go
there,
you
can
only
go
there
at
some
point
of
the
yours,
so
some
are
just
accessible
by
plane.
P
When
you
can't
fly
problem
is
power,
as
was
mentioned
earlier
before,
lunch
is
about
a
problem.
So
before
going
there
and
saying
hey,
you
got
high-speed
Internet.
We
got
to
deal
with
some
other
troubles.
First,
first
name
that
we
are
trying
to
to
figure
out
to
date.
We
don't
have
physical
project
there.
The
plan
is
to
have
a
physical
project
there
for
the
2020,
so
we'll
still
have
like
8
months
to
finalize
physical.
P
A
J
This
is
very,
very
high-level
question
here:
I
think
kind
of
marking
company
close
your
ears
like
what
what
does
kind
of
worked
well
and
poorly
for
you
guys
in
terms
of
interacting
with
I
socks
or
the
kind
of
centralized
organization.
How
can
we
like
work
better
with
you
guys.
P
I'm
kind
of
forced
and
say
the
the
North
American
rule,
they
were
a
good
team,
so
I
have
nice.
P
Some
chapters
actually
lost
many
members,
and
that
was
a
problem
for
them.
So
it's
just
the
hard
part
is
now
to
mobilize
people
again
or
or
just
going
there
and
say:
okay,
we
did
something
wrong
because
you
didn't
stay.
So
what
would
you
like
us
to
do
and
that's
part
of
why
we
were
launching
their
social
events,
because
people
just
mentioned?
Okay,
we're
online
we're
all
over
the
Internet.
A
A
A
Okay,
good,
so
so,
let's
we
distributed
already
the
proposal,
but
but
anyway,
I
mean
just
double-check
that
when
we
passed
the
resolutions,
you
know
your
names
are
on
the
right
committees
and
everything.
So
you
know
double
checking.
One
more
time
is
always
good,
but
I
sent
several
emails
about
that.
So,
let's
start
with
the
first
resolution.
The
first
resolution
is
yeah.
Kevin
is
gonna,
show
you
there.
R
R
A
I
mean
I'm
just
taking
that
my
paper
agenda
is
the
same
as
that
when
you
are
in
there
yeah
there,
okay,
so
so.
The
first
thing
we're
gonna
do
is
to
appoint
the
Executive
Committee
and,
as
you
know,
the
executive
committee
nowadays
is
just
there
just
in
case
something
happens.
So
it's
it's
kind
of
a
formality,
but
it's
always
formed
by
you
know
the
president,
who
is
Andrew
the
treasurer,
who
is
Richard
this
great
array
with
John
and
the
chairman
of
the
board.
A
A
A
A
A
A
A
No
votes
of
tension,
okay,
so
the
resolution
pass
is
also
an
anonymously
and
and
just
for
olga.
Actually
so
so
you
know
this
committee.
Has
you
know
external
members
as
well
and
usually
board
members?
So
you
know
just
when
you
are
forming
the
committee
shown
and
meekly
also
volunteer
to
be
in
the
committee,
so
they
have
expressed
interest
if,
if
needed,
so
that's
I
will
send
you
a
separate
email
anyway,
so
that
was
the
the
NomCom.
And
now
we
go
to
the
elections
committee.
So
the
elections
committee
is
the
same
thing.
A
A
A
Comments:
okay,
who
moves
0?
She
moves
John
seconds;
yes,
votes,
no
boats,
abstentions.
The
resolution
passes
unanimously,
that
was
the
Governance
Committee,
and
now
we
go
for
two
for
the
PIR
nominations.
Committee
var
nominations
committee
we
created
few
cycles
ago
and
the
proposal
is
to
have
John
as
the
chair
and
the
members
and
speaker
mike
and
Olga.
A
R
A
A
So
to
be
clear
again
John
as
the
chair
and
the
members
are
Hans
Peter
Mike,
a
note.
Okay,
sorry
for
the
confusion
who
moves
as
Peter
moves
here.
Oh
she
seconds
and
then
yes,
votes,
no
vote
abstentions.
The
resolution
passes
unanimous
and
those
were
the
resolutions
in
the
in
the
original
agenda
and,
and
yesterday
we
notice
that
we
had
to
also
appoint
Delhi
Asian
to
the
PIR
board.
So
so
Kevin
is
gonna
project.
The
resolution
I'm
happy
there.
The
proposal.
C
C
A
Exactly
yeah
yeah,
that's
I,
think
that's
clear,
yeah,
okay,
good
any
any
further
questions,
because
we
notice
that
we,
we
had
an
included
D
resolution
yesterday
and
and
I
think
it
has
to
be
done
by
Versalles.
Okay,
seen
on
I,
don't
see
any
any
question
so
yeah,
so
John
moves
that
per
second.
Yes,
votes!
No
votes!
Abstentions!
A
A
M
As
you
know,
we
have
the
report
by
the
election
turns
out
to
be
more
work
than
it
used
to
be
in
the
past,
so
I'm
just
bringing
this
up.
Since
we
are
changing
many
things,
including
the
the
time
it
would
take
and
the
overlap
between
the
forum
and
the
elections
and
having
the
elections
take
place
in
voting,
take
place
in
two
weeks,
so
I
thought
I'll
bring
this
up
and
I'm
interested
in
helping
the
next.
The
new
chair
of
the
Elections
Committee.
That's
something
yes,.
A
Under
saying
the
same
way,
I
told
all
gasp
as
the
new
chair
of
the
or
the
chair
of
the
new
noncom
that
you
know
there
were
people
interested
I
felt
here.
Oh
she
actually
that
both
Walid
and
Peter
expressed
interest
in
being
in
the
elections
committee.
So
so
that's
great
and
and
well.
It's
point
is
good
because
I
mean
yeah.
This
changes
is
good
for
continuity.
To
have
him
join
the
committee
as
well,
so
I
highly
suggest
that
we
actually
do
that.
Thank
you
very
okay,
Olga.
E
Members
not
just
found
the
emails
that
I
exchanged
in
2017,
with
every
being
the
chair
of
the
chapter,
Advisory
Committee,
where
she
I
can
share
that
with
you,
where
she
says
that
that's
not
on
their
mandate
and
that
other
member
of
the
check
at
the
time
says
that
we
should
proceed
as
it's
established
in
the
website
that
we
pick
other
members.
Do
you
have
any
suggestion
how
to
do
that
more
transparently
or
so?
E
What
we
have
been
doing
is
that
we
suggest
members
all
from
the
community,
not
necessarily
from
chapters
or
organizations
that
are
related
with
Internet
Society
community,
and
just
we
form
it,
and
we
have
worked
the
two
or
three
times.
I
was
part
of
the
NomCom,
even
cheering
it
was
okay.
It
went
very
well,
but
I
would
welcome,
suggesting
yeah.
A
So
I
think
what
what
we
were
discussing
with
Eduardo
yesterday
is
that
that
I
mean
we
don't
want
members
of
the
community
to
feel
that
they
cannot
volunteer.
So
in
that
sense,
something
similar
to
an
open
calls
for
volunteers,
which
is
like
a
who
wants
to
do
that
and
and
then
you
know
just
we
we
would
become
so
that
would
be
a
proposal.
I'm
happy,
they're,
angling.
H
A
Also,
a
pointer
like
to
some
piece
of
text
that
explains
very
clearly
the
rules,
because
I
I
mean
the
rules
are
available.
But
you
know
Eduardo
said
that
it
was
not
super
clear
to
him
where
to
find
him.
So
I
think
it's
just
a
matter
of
improving
the
improving
communicating
things
in
a
different
way,
so
that
everybody
is
on
the
same
page
and
and
I
have
well
I
have
Glenn
and
then
all
that
okay,
if
direct
follow-up.
E
I
agree
with
you.
This
is
why
we
reach
out
to
the
chapter
advisor
committee
under
time,
so
they
said
no.
Should
we
do
that
again,
that's
my
question
or
we
could
use
the
lists
that
I'm
not
sure
if
they're
really
working
so
well,
I
myself,
don't
miss
a
payment
from
the
connects
with
the
new
system.
We
could
use
those
lists
so.
A
So
what
if
we
make
the
open
calls
sending
heads
up
to
people
is
completely
okay,
so
once
we
have
the
the
open
call,
you
can
send
a
heads
up
to
Eduardo,
whoever
saying
hey
guys.
This
is
the
process,
do
that
and
then
it
sits
up
really
up
to
each
member
of
the
community
to
say
they
nominate
someone
and
and
I
assume
that
was
trans
Peters
point
that
you
can
self
nominate
you
or
do
third
party
nominations
so
I
think
that
covers
pretty
much.
It.
A
O
These
statements
were
basically
NomCom
this
year
we
got
to
it
in
some
of
these
cases,
the
individuals
who
were
not
happy
that
didn't
think
they
had
a
lot
of
opportunity
to
participate.
Some
of
these
individuals
did
apply,
but
they
were
late
or
they
were
on
the
Advisory
Council.
So
by
the
time
they
got
direct
together.
You
know
it
was
an
issue.
I,
don't
know
how
many
times
he
didn't
mind,
people
or
maybe
prompt
them
to
read
the
website
work.
The
fact
that
the
chair
is
there
make
an
effort.
O
O
The
recommendations
of
the
people
that
came
especially
Richards
are
recommendations
are
and
working
people
Challenger
well
I'm.
You
know,
and
we
had
one
example.
Some
game
never
showed
up
period
right.
So
it's
it's
sometimes
you're
going
to
be
criticized:
there's
not
enough.
Gender
balance,
geographical
representation,
whatever
you
do,
you're
screwed
so
frankly,
thank
it,
doesn't
hurt
and
then
work
modified
work
plan.
I
were
paraded
these
ideas
months
ago
that
you
know
okay.
So
let's
make
an
extra
extra
effort
and
all
of
us
in
the
committee
make
extra
effort
to
get
those
people
there.
O
So
you
know,
but
you
know
I
think
it
really
strikes
me
as
a
bit
of
how
can
I
put
this.
You
know
the
situation,
no.
A
Iii
agree
that
sometimes
we
get
this
type
of
questions
of
like
not
finding
something,
and
then
you
you,
google
or
you
search
for
like
30
milliseconds,
and
you
find
it.
So
you
wonder
you
know
if,
if
people
don't
and
shown
us
his
favorite
web
page
but
anyway,
I
agree,
I
mean
I,
don't
take
this
as
a
blame
game
or
a
security
system
or
anything
it's
just
something
to
consider
and
to
be
as
explicit
as
possible.
So
that
there's
an
easy
way
when
people
ask
to
say
yes,
sir,
these
are
the
rules.
A
M
We
need
to
realize
that
we
can
reform
our
communication,
improve
our
communications
and
maybe
you
can
sit
down
together.
Obviously,
there's
no,
you
know
media
committee,
but
in
order
for
us
to
be
clear
and
transparent
and
precise
in
our
messaging,
we
need
to
sit
down
and
see
see
to
it
that
we
get
something
out
there
and
in
particular,
for
example,
in
cases
where
we
make
changes
without
drastic
steps
that
require
the
committee
to
be
a
will.
M
A
Know,
I'm
sure
that
you
know
we
all
want
to
be
very
clear
and
and
and
I
think
we
are
very
transparent,
so
I
I
mean
I'm
just
applying
if
I
am
to
glens
points.
It's
just
like
I
fully
agree
that
that
we
should
be
transpiring
to
are
clear
and
everything.
What
I
don't
agree
is
that
we
were
not
before
so
just
to
be
completely
clear.
I
agree
with
Glenn
I
think
we
did
a
really
good
job
to
to
be
open,
transparent,
as
Olga
said,
sometimes
she's,
even
that
the
same
community.
A
That
tells
us
no
we're
not
gonna
do
this.
When
we
ask,
then
they
get
back
to
us.
Saying,
oh,
you
didn't
ask
me,
which
is
complete
nonsense.
So
in
that
sense
you
know
is
just
like
I'm
taking
a
positive
approach
and
saying
like
yes
sure
we
will
be
very
clear,
open,
transparent
and
all
we
are
all
the
time
so
and
we
are
having
this
discussion
in
the
open
session,
so
that
is
recorded
and
everybody
can
conceive
it
so
I
think
that's
good,
perfect,
any
anything
else.
A
R
So
I
just
put
this
up.
I
may
have
been
the
source
of
some
misunderstanding
here,
but
just
to
make
sure
it
gets
captured
in
the
list
of
committees,
but
the
bylaws
say
that
the
President
shall
serve
as
non-voting
ex
officio
member
of
all
committees
except
audit
compensation
and
I
sock
in
PIR
nominations,
committees,
yeah,.