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A
Perfect
so
hello,
everyone-
and
thank
you
for
your
time-
welcome
to
the
last
ccv
one
meeting
three
months
can
pass
by
very
quickly.
So
maybe
we
can
start
with
a
quick
sort
of
check-in
from
the
circle
team.
We
can
start
with
loris,
please
followed
by
victor.
B
Hi
so
fast,
two
weeks,
of
course,
it
was
quite
fast.
It's
a
lot
of
things
happening,
but
not
on
catalyst,
so
yeah
so
from
catalyst
circle
yeah.
It
was
more
on
on
getting
and
informing
people
about
new
elections
coming
on,
so
that's
actually
was,
which
is
which
take
most
of
them
with
meetings
and
discussions
so
and
yeah.
So
getting
ready.
Maybe
some
paperwork
and
writing
down
some
ideas
for
those
people
who,
I
suppose
will
be
mentoring
for
at
least
first
meeting
and
yeah.
B
A
A
C
I've
been
continuing
to
work
with
the
dcas
to
try
to
come
up
with
the
reputation
system,
so
we've
been
discussing
this,
I'm
also
talking
to
all
the
cas
to
see
who's
who
wants
to
be
a
candidate
for
circle
vito,
and
I
think
that's
basically
it
and
it's
my
first
week
full-time
cardinal
and
catalyst
and
yeah.
That's
it.
A
D
D
Lots
of
new
faces
new
product
managers
that
are
doing
an
awesome
job
and
are
really
owning
the
really
owning
the
transition,
and
we
have
a.
We
have
a
plan
in
place.
We
have
a
plan
to
basically
know
that
we
don't
know
but
we're
gonna
start
some
pilots
and
we're
gonna
get
the
ball
rolling
and
right
now
the
the
the
last
hurdle
is
getting
all
the
stakeholders
in
a
room
to
say.
D
Yes,
let's
start
today,
we
were
supposed
to
have
that,
but
I
think
a
lot
of
them
are
now
in
africa
doing
like
meeting
like
world
leaders
and
stuff.
I
can.
I
can
see
why
you
know
there
weren't
able
to
make
it,
but
hopefully,
in
the
early
next
week
it
would
manage
to
be
in
front
of
their
face.
With
present,
the
full
plan
get
the
green
light,
and
once
we
do
that,
you
know
we
can.
D
We
can
actually
go
ahead
and
and
share
a
roadmap
for
voltaire,
clear,
clear
criteria
of
success,
strategy
plan
and
and
get
get
going
okay.
So
it's
really
exciting,
really
hard
work,
but,
like
I
mean
this
problem
is
gonna
get
get
moved
very
soon.
So
that's,
I
think,
that's
my
main
thing.
I
think.
In
terms
of
the
elections
I
mean
I'm
considering
asking.
D
Having
harris
the
new
product
manager
for
catalyst
like
be
be
in
the
category
circle,
because
he's
gonna
be
way
more
in
the
weeds
than
me
and
going
forward,
so
it
might
be
healthier
to
do
that
and
yeah,
and
also
reached
out
to
charles
asked
him
to
candidate
himself
for
the
voters
delegate.
So,
let's
see
how
that
goes.
E
But
yes,
there
we
go
and
from
the
two
makers
side
it's
an
extremely
amazed
how
to
see,
especially
over
the
last
week.
So
already
the
community
defines
new
standards,
so
communication
becomes
a
standard
collaboration
becomes
the
standard,
developing
common
ground
find,
gets
a
standard
and
just
what
victor
made.
A
So
door
rightfully
mentions
we
don't
know
if
it
might
be
good
or
bad.
Definitely
very
impactful
yeah.
It
could
go
both
ways,
maybe
a
subject
of
discussion
at
a
later
time,
but.
E
A
A
Perfect
and
just
a
quick
note
that
we'll
be
transcribing
this
meeting
in
otter,
ai,
that's
a
tool
that
stephen
has
introduced
to
help
him
a
lot
with
his
with
his
work.
It's
helping
him
be
a
lot
more
productive
and
and
seamless,
and
so
we
started
off
with
the
with
the
check-in.
I'm
gonna
quickly
go
through
the
agenda
so
that
we're
all
aligned
and
kick
it
off.
So
first
we're
gonna
start
with
the
with
the
trello
board,
quick
updates
on.
A
If
there
has
been
any
major
changes
on
the
cards,
we've
heard
that
door
felix
and
victor
have
been
working
specifically
on
how
io
hk
is
going
to
hand
over
more
of
their
power
to
the
community.
So
we'll
discuss
that
and
see.
If
anyone
else
has
anything
to
mention
and
then
sorry
there's
one
thing
that
I
forgot
to
mention
is
introducing
the
admin
team.
A
So
there's
I'm
going
to
be
facilitating
co-facilitated
with
nori
who's
going
to
be
leading
this
second
half
of
the
meeting,
the
retrospective
and
obviously
there's
a
stephen
and
there's
peter
on
the
secretary's
side.
So
this
is
where
nori
will
step
in
and
work
on
retrospective.
I'm
personally
very
personally,
very
looking
forward
to
this
section.
I'm
sure
we're
gonna
get
a
lot
of
insights.
We're
gonna
get
a
lot
of
learnings
on.
How
can
we
improve
yeah?
A
It
should
be
a
fun
one,
we'll
keep
some
time
for
open
conversation
and
generally
going
to
be
a
light
session
today,
just
the
general
feedback
and
goodbyes
towards
the
end.
So
if
anyone,
if
anyone
doesn't
have
any
sort
of
questions
or
concerns
we'll
dive
into
the
treadle
board,
where
peter
is
going
to
be
sharing
this
skin,
I'm
going
to
shop
stock
sharing
tutor
over
to.
A
All
right,
perfect,
so
yeah,
maybe
we'll
start
with
the
with
the
card
that
we
know,
will
be
discussed
I'll
hand
it
over
to
door.
Felix
and
victor
who've
been
working
on.
How
does
ihk
and
capitalist
community
coordinate
building
governance
systems
effectively
and
how
do
they
hand
over
to
the
community
so
I'll
pass
it
over
to
you
guys
and
take
it
from
here.
D
Sure
it's
the
first
of
all
yeah
this,
so
there's
two
different
ones
right:
it's
like
we
have
the
iog.
How
does
io
and
the
one
in
the
problem
backlog?
The
second
item
here
yeah.
So
this
is
more
about
coordination
right
and
we
slightly
kind
of
pivoted
on
it,
which
I
think
is
a
good
pivot,
because
you
know
rather
than
like
dealing
with
the
entirety
of
it.
D
We
we
kind
of
said,
like
hey,
like
the
community,
want
to
take
part
more
at
an
early
stage
when
we
define
like
incentives
when
we
define
mechanisms
for
catalysts
right
and
so
like
so
there's
a
need
for
a
tighter
collaboration
with
iog
and
more
inclusion,
and
that's
basically
how
I
understood
it.
D
In
a
programmatic
way
for
getting
things
done,
it's
actually
really
useful
because
that
that
can
that
that
led
to
a
pilot
we
launched
actually
today,
which
was
so,
I
would
throw
it
all
the
way
to
a
pilot.
The
solution
is
already
in
place
where
or
it's
already
starting
to
be
experimented
with,
where
we
basically
looked
at
this
auditing
problem,
the
need
for
auditing
in
catalyst
and
and
how
to
create
a
decentralized
auditing
layer
where
we
brought
these
iog
product
managers
and
researchers.
D
You
know
in
a
room
together
with
community
when
actually
the
the
person
talking
and
guiding
the
whole
process
was
actually
community
members
with
ron
hill,
okay
was
was
doing
that
and
some
of
us
were
there
in
that
meeting
and
we
had
to
actually
to
leave
to
to
participate
in
this
meeting,
but
we
had
two
takeaways
one.
Is
that
or
at
least
that's
what
I
asked?
I
don't
know-
I
don't
know.
D
I
then
I
that
I
don't
know
where
they
took
it,
but
but
I
think
one
one
of
one
direction
is
creating
a
dedicated
group.
Okay,
let's
call
it
a
circle
of
people
that
are
kind
of
shepherding.
That
process,
okay
of
of
of
defining
this
auditing
layer
and
implementing
it
and
and
and
following
through
all
the
all
the
steps,
it's
a
which
can
easily
be
like
a
multi-year
product
process.
Okay
to
to
to
get
it
fully
implemented
because
it's
like
apparently
it's
very
it's
very
complicated
from
what
we
learned
in
the
meeting.
D
It's
it's
extremely
complicated
the,
but
on
the
short
term,
you
know
we
need
some
kind
of
an
mvp
auditing
solution
for
fund
seven.
It's
like
an
eight
million
dollar
fund.
So
that's
more
of
we
need
to
pat.
We
need
a
patch
there,
that's
in
three
and
a
half
months
from
now.
So
this
is
a
more
like
a
different
pace
and
you
know
so
there
needs
to
be
like
a
kind
of
a
more
dedicated
group
just
for
the
just
for
the
short
term
solution
that
would
actually
be
used
as
a
pilot.
D
For
you
know
it
would
instruct
the
long-term
circle.
You
know
because
there
will
be
already
a
pilot
in
place
and
people
can
observe
it
and
iterate
it
and
expand
it.
So
that's
the!
I
think.
That's
that's
the
that's
the
conclusion
here.
So
in
terms
I
would,
I
would
move
it
to
the
to
actually
being
picked
up
a
column,
because
that's
that's
what's
happening
and
let's
see
how
it
goes.
D
Of
course,
you
know
there's
more
more
ways
to
cut
this
problem
right
like
like
like
like,
because
it's
like
ecosystem
coordination.
It's
not
just
about
this.
It's
about
many
other
things
so,
but
you
know
so
so
it's
like
it's
almost
like
the
the
former
doesn't
completely
do
justice,
but
I
would
move
it
to
picked
up
and,
and
maybe
reframe
reframe
the
problem
to
fit
this
just
so
we
can.
D
Is
the
a
remove
I
o
from
every
decision
made
in
catalyst?
So
today
I
heard
the
new
a
new
term
coined
like
a
new,
a
new
acronym,
so
I
I
already
likes
acronyms.
So
the
new
acronym
is
is.
D
O
I
it's
like
without
I
o
so
basically
like
how
like
like
like
starting
to
look
at
like
looking
at
the
litmus
test.
Is
this
done
with
io
or
without
io?
So
I
think
that's
a
good,
that's
a
good
anchor
and
like
basically
going
through
all
the
processes
and
decisions
and
maintenance
and
core
and
like
one
by
one
and
realizing.
How
do
we
get
to
you
know?
How
do
we
move
it
into
it
into
that?
Okay
into
into
into
into
without
io
and
plan
is
so.
D
We
have
a
strategy
in
place,
a
road
map
and
we're
just
waiting
for
stakeholders,
approval
to
publish
it
commute
start
to
communicate
it
to
the
community.
It's
not
it's,
not
a
waterfall,
I
mean
I
can
say
it.
I
can
tell
you
already:
it's
not
a
waterfall.
D
You
know
useful
expectations
and
metrics
of
success.
You
know
just
to
start
to
get
going
and
from
there
from
there
on
on
on
up,
you
know
it's
it's
mostly
about
basically
like
collective
awareness
mechanisms
like
basically
like
the
ability
to
to
look
at
every
iteration
and
determine
like.
Did
we
succeed?
Did
we
not
succeed?
D
What's
what's
to
improve?
What's
what's
what
needs
to
be?
Let
go
of
you
know
whatever,
and
and
actually
that
function
that's
going
to
what
that's
what's
going
to
determine
the
success
of
voltaire,
it's
not
like
it's
not
the
initial
conditions,
because
it's
going
to
change
with
reality.
D
What's
going
to
what
what
what
is
important
is
is
having
a
really
really
awesome
this
this
a
collective
awareness
function
and
that
would
that
would
drive
us
to
I
think,
into
a
governance
system.
That
is
better
than
anything
that
that
any
researcher
or
or
someone
right
now
can
can
state
all
right,
because
it
will,
it
will
evolve
in
a
much
more
organic
way.
D
So,
basically,
I
think
I
think
we
can
keep
it
where
you
know
this
can
be
remain.
It's
I
mean
I
could
move
it
to
a
defined
problem.
You
know
it's
not
publicly
shared
the
definition,
but
I
would
say
now
it's
a
well-defined
problem
and
the
next
step
is
once
we
don't
say
approval,
then
then
we
can
move
it
to
the
publicly
announced
right
to
like
communicate
it
outside.
D
I
don't
know
it's
a
bit
of
it
again.
It's
another
edge
case
here
like
is
it
well
defined?
If,
if
not
all
of
us
understand
it,
you
know
like
it
is
not
defined
explicitly
to
all
of
us
here
and
maybe
not
I
mean,
but
and
then
then
that's
fine.
We
can
still
keep
it
in
this
column.
I'm
just
not
sure.
What's
the
right
thing
to
do,.
A
So
that's
extremely
interesting:
is
there
any
action
planned
or
do
you
need
any
support
from
anyone
within
the
circle
on
this?
In
terms
of
next
steps.
D
D
You
know,
I
think
basically
they're
supportive
of
it,
but
but
it
needs
to
go
through
that
process
like
I
can
just
like,
come
out
and
say
that
so
so
you
know
soon
coming
soon
much
more
much
more.
You
know
detail
plan.
A
It's
it's
great.
The
the
progress
is
great.
I
believe
we
can.
We
can
move
it.
It's
never
going
to
really
be
completely
defined
this.
This
process
inherently,
can
never
be
defined,
but
there
is
a
clear
at
least
approach
now
that
is
being
developed,
so
we
can
move
that
interested
to
hear
any
of
the
circle.
Members
thoughts
if
there
are
on
the
two
updates
delivered
by
door.
E
To
the
first
point-
and
I
said,
can
I
really
see
the
value
of
catalyst
circle
as
well
by
knowing
what
iot
is
doing
on
their
site?
We
can
organize
in
the
community
as
well,
so
the
tool
my
container
came
together.
We
got
to
say:
okay
when
there's
something
like
auditability,
especially
in
the
cohort
auditability
comes
always
to
standards,
and
the
community
starts
to
say.
Okay,
what
can
we
do
already
to
support
this
way?
So,
just
today
we
finished
them
to
send.
E
The
cohort
we
said
also
that
several
groups
which,
because
to
make
us
maintainers
many
of
them
their
own
proposals,
and
maybe
we
have
something
around
700
proposals,
but
maybe
we
just
have
something
around
200
proposals
from
these
200
proposals.
Many
of
the
crew,
many
of
them
are
addressed
as
groups
like
other
swarm,
catalyst,
school,
eastern
town
or
others.
E
Is
that
also?
Okay?
When
we
move
into
the
cohort,
we
just
start
to
define
already
now
a
common
reporting
rate,
common
reporting
tools
which
can
be
used
by
the
majority
of
the
funded
proposals
in
fund
six,
where
we
can
provide
already
valued
tool,
sets
and
workflows,
which
help
also
iot
to
say:
oh
okay,
they
are
walking
on
their
side,
come
and
community
can
walk
on
on
their
side
already
and
yep.
E
E
E
E
E
D
Well,
I
guess
the
question
is
how
how
is
it?
How
well
defined
is
it
like?
Is
there
if
we
have
some
kind
of
a
document
I
would
suggest
like,
and
I
think
it's
actually
going
to
be
really
nice?
D
Just
because
you
know
you
know,
like
I
mean
if,
if
your
group
can
that
working
on
it
now
can
produce
something
like
that,
it's
useful,
because
then
you
know,
then
we
can
come
to
come
to
the
town
hall
present.
It
inspire
more
people
to
join
the
group
and
also
you
know,
inspire
more
people
even
or
even
to
try
more
things
in
parallel,
because
everybody
has
a
shared
understanding.
D
Up
the
screamer
for
the
stroller
board
and
that
now
I
can
now
we
can
see
how
you
know
when
things
just
like
act
on
stuff.
You
know
it
doesn't
necessarily
neatly
move
in
a
linear
fashion.
You
know
like
so
I
would
invite
the
the
facilitator
team
to
reflect
about
it
and
like
see,
because
I
do
think
it's
actually.
The
structure
really
helps.
I
I
do
think
it
helps
help
helping
us
structure
work.
D
Can
you
like
for
the
next
circle
like
I
guess
this
is
a
left
circle,
but
for
v2
can
can
that
team
come
and
come
to
the
circle
and
present
it
right
and
we
can
start.
You
know
that
that
would
be.
That
would
be
a
good
outcome.
A
So
I
believe
it's
all
clear
on
on
next
steps
there
so
stephen
as
well
is
asking
should
we
move
it
to
researching?
Does
that
seem
to
make
sense,
researching.
A
F
A
And
we've
added
steven
has
added
a
action
item
to
other
teams
to
present
to
the
circle,
v2
perfect.
So
with
that,
thank
you
all
for
that
and
I'll
be
passing
it
to
nori
for
a
very
interesting
retrospective
on
the
past
few
months.
Looking
forward
to
this
over
to
you.
F
All
right,
thanks
cindy,
let
me
share
the
retrospective
link.
F
F
So,
basically,
if
you've
never
used
this
before
the
the
way
to
add
a
card
and
that's
basically
kind
of
an
encapsulated
thought
of
your
own
is
to
hit
the
plus
at
the
top
and
a
card
will
appear
and
then
you
can
type
something
in
and
then
hit
enter
and
it'll
complete
the
card.
Just
as
a
note,
a
helpful
card
would
have
some
context
so
that
you
know
what
the
person
is
thinking
and
whether
someone
else
would
like
to
talk
about
it.
F
Something
that'd
be
less
helpful,
would
be
like
under
the
learned
would
be
something
like
I
learned
a
lot:
that's
not
a
really
helpful
card.
It
would
be
nice
to
have
a
little
more
context
of
what
you
learned
and
what
impact
that
had,
and
things
like
that.
So
I
will
open
it
up
for
people
to
start
adding
cards.
There's
two
options:
here
we
can
work
in
a
brainstorm
mode
where
you
can't
see
other
people's
cards
or
we
can
do
it
open.
So
you
can
see
as
people
do
card.
F
So
I
found
in
the
past
that
an
open
style
helps
trigger
things
that
other
people
want
to
contribute,
because
you
can
see
what
other
people
are
doing
and
it
usually
leads
to
better
outcomes,
but
some
people
like
to
brainstorm
on
their
own
without
that
distraction.
So
we
can
do
that
or
a
hybrid
of
the
two.
What
would
you
guys
prefer.
F
F
The
first
one
is
light,
so
these
are
things
that
you
really
liked
or
found
valuable
learned
as
things
that
you
learned
are
going
to
take
away,
lacked
things
that
you
felt
were
lacking
or
could
be
better
longed
for
was
something
you
wish
for
and
that
we
can
maybe
introduce
with
circle
v2
and
then,
if
something
doesn't
fit
in
any
of
these
categories
feel
free
to
list
them
on
the
fifth
column.
Here
any
questions.
F
F
F
F
F
F
Okay
and
the
timer,
so
we
have.
F
Four
primary
columns
of
the
liked
learned
lacked
and
longed
for
so
I'm
gonna
give
each
person
eight
votes,
please
vote
for
two
items
in
each
column
and
then
we'll
pick
the
ones
that
get
the
most
votes
to
talk
about.
So
these
are
ones
that
you
would
like
to
either
recognize
or
call
out
for
discussion.
F
Let's
give
ourselves
max
of
five
minutes
I'll
start
a
timer
for
them.
Okay,.
F
A
B
F
F
All
right,
so,
let's
enter
the
discussion
phase.
F
D
D
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think
I
mean
I
think
every
I
mean
it's
like.
I
think
we
did
incredibly
well.
I
think
it
was.
It
was
a
really
big.
We
took
on
something
a
really
big
bite
out
of
something
and
we
all
most
of
us
haven't
worked
together
before
and
it's
just
incredible.
I
think
that
it
was
very
hard
at
times,
and
I
think
that
the
only
reason
now
we're
kind
of
here
feeling
good
is
by
managing
to
deal
with
all
the
stuff
that
came
our
way.
D
Okay
and
and-
and
it
was
only
done
because
you
know,
while
mistakes
were
made
and
like
you
know,
miscommunications
were
had
this
as
a
normal
human
activity.
You
know
there
was
never
never
blame,
never
like
anger
like
never
always
constructive,
always
patience
and
giving
people
a
chance
to
to
kind
of
like
figure
things
out
and,
like
you
know,
and
I
can
I
can
tell
I
can-
and
I've
been
on
both
sides
of
that
myself
so
and
I
feel
I
think
probably
most
of
us
did
and
that's
something
that's
not
trivial.
D
I
think
a
lot
of
groups
end
up
being
like
in
in
conflict
or
or
harbor
all
sorts
of
stuff,
and-
and
this
is
something
that
needs
to
be
perceived
persistent
in
in
in
the
culture
of
in
the
values
of
the
circle
going
forward.
F
Thank
you.
Do
people
who
voted
for
this
one
want
to
say
anything
about
it
and
why
you
voted
for
it.
C
Yeah
I
voted
for
this
because
it
I
think
this
experience
showed
us
that,
even
when
we
are
dealing
with
a
specific
problems
that
we
want
to
solve,
even
if
the
some
of
them
seemed
kind
of
simple,
some
dancing
complex,
but
it's
really
actually
impossible
to
not
receive
outputs
from
outside,
because
we
are
dealing
with
it
was.
F
Thanks
victor
does
anybody
else
want
to
contribute
to
the
conversation
on
this
card,
whether
he
voted
for
it
or
not?.
F
D
E
From
you
yeah,
I
would
but
because
I
think
it's
it's
one
of
the
most
important
parts
of
the
yeah,
what
happened?
What
actually
is
happening
in
the
ecosystem?
Not
only
for
catalyst
circle,
so
in
project
catalyst
over
people
coming
together
with
totally
different
backgrounds,
coming
together
in
small
teams
and
educate
themselves?
How
this
collaboration
can
look
like?
We
don't
have
any
playbooks.
We
don't
have
any
scripts,
but
helps
us
a
lot
in
this
regard
and
we
have
to
exploit
by
ourselves
just
come.
It's
a
little
bit
related
also
to
the
topic
we
just
spoke
before.
E
F
Beautiful
thanks
felix
anybody
else
want
to
contribute
to
that.
B
Oh,
maybe
I
did
it,
but
I
did,
but
I
don't
know
but
anyway.
Yes
definitely,
you
know
the
facilitation
on
secretaries
also.
You
know
which
helped
last
us
a
lot,
and
I
think
it
was
a
great
idea
to
have
and
actually
it
has
been
expanded
to
several
people
which
is
yeah.
So
it's
really
helpful
for
us
and
I
think
it's
yeah.
We
have
really
great
people
here,
so
we
feel
blessed
to
have
to
have
you
guys
here.
D
I
think
I
think
you're
the
secret
weapon
to
to
I
hate
if
I
I'm
using
so
many
army
weapons.
Like
I
mean
you're,
the
you
know,
magical
butterflies
of
harmony
of
this
of
the
circle,
and
I
really
hope
that
the
both
the
secular
facilitation
syste
facilitation
teams
continue
with
version
two,
because
we
really
need
you
you're,
adding
lots
and
lots
of
value
and
I
think,
you're
putting
up
a
model
for
all
the
governance.
That
is
key.
D
Without
the
secretary
and
facilitation
teams
like
taking
on
additional
responsibilities,
and-
and
I
really
want
to
encourage
you
to
I-
I
know
it
was
like
one
submission
for
like
secretary
funding,
but
anyway,
I
think
we
need
to
figure
out
like
how
to
scale
up
the
proposals
for
these
teams,
because
because
it,
I
really,
I
think,
I
think
we
all
see
how
important
it
is
and
how
much
value
it
brings
and
and
these
people
need
to
be
compensated
accordingly.
That's
that's
my
point.
B
And
that's,
I
think,
it's
very
important
topic
which
cc2s,
I
suppose,
we'll
have
to
figure
out
how
to
manage
that
and
yeah
get
some
stable
support.
F
Awesome
thanks
for
that
feedback.
I'm
sure
these
would
be
really
great
sound
bites
to
to
market
the
position
as
well
all
right
I'll
skip
over
the
single
vote
ones.
Unless
people
really
want
to
do
that.
If
we
have
time
at
the
end,
we
can
come
back
to
those
if
people
feel
strongly.
F
Let's
move
to
the
learned
column
here,
there's
a
couple
of
threes,
so
we
can
start
with
this
one.
The
cc
is
a
perfect
micro
picture
of
the
overall
catalyst
and
it's
functional
groups.
That's
probably
felix!
Do
you
want
to
talk
to
that
card
and
yeah.
E
This
is
really
amazing.
When
you
look
on
it
because
cohorts
really
lacking
structure
making
communications,
they
have
problems
to
get
involved
somehow
in
project
catalyst,
the
spos.
They
are
not
really
incentives,
so
nothing
against
the
people
who
are
representing,
but
it's
it's
kind
of
from
a
philosophic
point
for
a
few.
It's
extremely
interesting.
The
spos
are
mostly
not
really
present
in
project
cutters.
They
have
problems
to
contribute.
E
E
So
what
we
have
in
project
catalyst,
it's
exactly
what
we
have
in
catalyst
circuit.
So
it's
really
like
a
very
condensed
micro
cosmos,
and
this
I
was
I'm
really
amazed
by
this.
So
to
say,
yeah
this.
The
experiment
is
definitely
successful
because
somehow
it
arrived
naturally
because
there
wasn't
the
coordination
behind
who
forced
the
people,
the
representative,
to
act
in
this
or
in
that
way
also
what
we
saw
with
the
general
ada
holders.
They
are
extremely
struggling
to
to
contribute
into
the
process,
so
it
just
fits
perfectly
and
so
yeah
successful
experiment.
Definitely.
C
Yeah
I
voted
for
it
because
I
was
curious
about
who
wrote
it,
but
I
agree
with
felix,
but
I
also
think
that
currently
there
is
a
there
is
some
overlap,
especially
between
two
makers
cas
and
proposers,
and.
C
F
Okay,
the
next
one
is
how
important
is
it
is
to
have
the
right
facilitation
and
methods
in
place
to
get
work
done.
Who
put
that
card
up,
and
can
you
add
some
more
context
to
that.
D
It's
me,
I'm
gonna,
repeat
myself
what
I
said
before
it's
really
important.
I
mean
it's:
it's
like
the
the
each.
I
think
that
you
know
I'm
now
in
the
kind
of
perspective
of
like
transition
planning
and,
like
you
know,
scaling
up
some
stuff
some
stuff
and-
and
I
really
think
that
the
human
processes
thing-
okay,
it's
I
call
it.
Human
processes,
like
the
human
processes
that
drive
governance,
are
a
critical
fundamental
part
and
it's
crazy
how
much
of
an
afterthought.
D
It
is
right
when,
when
you
even
in
like
you,
when
you
think
about
like
normal
government
right,
you
think
about
like
a
cabinet
of
the
us,
you
know
of
of
the
us
government
like
meeting
right,
it's
like
who's,
facilitating
that.
How
are
they?
You
know?
How
are
they?
How
are
they
making
discussions?
You
know
what
kind
of
tools
and
messages
they
use
to
determine
like
the
future
of
the
planet,
and
you
see
it's
so
lacking.
D
You
know
it's
so
blah
and
like,
and
I
think
it's
a
great
great
great
way
to
really
think
about
it
in
a
in
a
systemic
way
and
and-
and
I
think
we're
gonna
see
the
and
if
we
do
the
job
right,
I
think
we're
gonna
see
better
decisions
like
basically
superior
decisions
come
out
of
such
structures
like
we
build
and
then
other
structures
simply
because
we're
aware
of
this
and
like
put
put
attention
to
it
versus
like
people
are
focusing
on
other
things
and
that
I
guess
I'm
very
inspired
by
it
all
this.
F
Thanks
is
anybody
else,
maybe
the
people
who
voted
for
it
or
anybody
else
have
any
other
context
or
thoughts
to
add
to
them.
Why
you
voted
for
it.
F
All
right
we
can
get
into
some
of
the
more
juicier
ones.
In
the
lacked
column,
there
seems
to
be
a
big
spread
of
what
people
voted
for
here.
So
I'll
start
here
with
the
one
that
got
two
votes
more
time
for
unofficial
discussions,
meetings
with
members
to
work
on
problem
solving
and
defining
the
problems
etc.
B
Add
more
kind
of
indeed
yeah
I
did
so
this
is
you
know
what
I
also
felt
all
over
time,
but
you
know
we
are
lacking
some
kind
of
additional
meetings.
Unofficial
meetings,
when
we
can,
you
know
basically
work
on
some
kind
of
things
and
actually
that
that
was
actually
one
of
the
issues
when
we
when
I
and
that
messed
up
with
that
with
budgetings
and
other
things,
but
yeah.
That's
actually
you
know
when
you
try
to
work
together.
It's
really.
You
know.
We
felt
that
it's
really.
B
You
know
we
are
moving
forward,
but,
as
you
know,
all
of
the
members
are
super
busy
in
different
projects.
So
it
really
was
hard
to
get.
You
know,
people
you
know
together
more
than
two
people,
and
that
was
yeah.
That
was,
I
think
I
was
lacking.
I
don't
know
but
about
others.
B
So
that's
just
what
I
felt
and
also
that
there's
not
official
yeah,
so
that's
kind
of
another
thing
which
is
platform
but
yeah,
but
for
this
one
it's
basically
an
additional
time,
which
I
think
the
next
cc2
members
will
have
to
calculate
in
that
it's
not
only
the
official
time,
but
you
have
to
really
have
time
for
meetings
additional
meetings
with
other
members
and
even
you
know
with
some
additional
groups.
It's
not
only
about
the
capitalist
members.
B
F
Thanks
laurence,
I
think,
as
part
of
our
nomination
criteria,
we
actually
added
like
10
plus
hours
a
week
to
devote
as
one
of
the
criteria
it'd
be
I'd,
be
curious
to
hear
from
people
how
much
time
you
think
we
should
be
asking
people
to
expect
to
be
effective
in
this
role.
C
E
E
That
would
even
go
further
and
say,
as
we
encourage
people
to
go
full
time
into
catalyst
and
cut
a
circle,
is
an
extremely
crucial
part
or
even
say
that
I
would
envision
so
my
desire
would
be
to
have
people
who
have
just
almost
like
a
full-time
or
half-time
job
so
20
hours
per
week.
Something
like
this
to
really
get
things
done.
F
Okay,
there
were
a
lot
of
ones
through
here.
Does
anybody
feel
strongly
about
any
of
these
that
you
would
like
to
bring
up
for
discussion.
D
D
D
Yeah,
it's
not
budgeted
for
v2,
but
I'd
love.
If,
like
even
for
v3,
we
would
you
know
we
would
include
like
travel
budget
for
for
people
when
a
new
circle
is
formed
like
actually
get
all
the
new
and
old
members
together
in
the
same
place
just
for
some
kind
of
a
shared
retreat,
because
this
this
fundamental
to
build
relationships,
I
think
it
can
really
help.
It
can
really
accelerate
this
kind
of
stuff
trust
and
and
better
communication.
B
Yeah,
if
you
like
on
next
cardana
summit,
basically
there
would
be
some
kind
of
additional.
You
know
room
for
people
to
meet
yeah
for
catholic
circle.
Unfortunately,
this
year
it
was
not
possible
due
to
the
restrictions
traveling
to
us,
but
yeah,
so
hopefully
in
the
future
there
will
be
an
opportunity
because
when
they
see
you
know
in
the
london
summit,
when
I
meet
with
also
with
my
people,
you
know
it's
of
course.
E
Step
one
just
very
brief,
just
a
missing
participation
from
kalana
foundation.
I
think
this
was
this
is
yeah
should
definitely.
This
is
not
really
a
desire
to
cut
on
the
foundation,
it's
normally
a
key
role
in
the
ecosystem
and
should
actively
participate
in
this
select,
I
would
say
almost
two
hundred
percent,
so.
F
Yeah,
I
think,
just
from
what
I
saw
from
the
outside,
there
definitely
seemed
to
be
a
lack
of
participation
from
cf.
So
I
don't
know
if
anybody
has
communication
channels
to
them,
but
perhaps
david
didn't
have
enough
time
to
participate
meaningfully.
Maybe
somebody
else
within
the
org
does
or
maybe
an
ambassador
could
sit
in
and
represent,
or
something
like
that,
but
yeah.
D
Yeah,
it's
a
complex
one.
I
mean
it's,
it's
like
there's
a
there's,
a
lot
of
things
in
play
here
right,
and
it's
also
like
how
we're
going
to
react
to
it
is
going
to
I
like
defined
also
that
the
how
things
evolve.
D
So
I
think
we
need
to
be
strategic.
Like
I
mean.
D
It's
complicated,
I
mean,
I
think,
for
I
mean
my
perspective
is
that
I
think
the
next
circle
needs
to
have
a
clear
protocol
of
if
someone
is
not
attending
what
what
is
not
going
to
attend
a
coming
meeting,
you
know
what
what
does
it
mean
like,
I
think
like
something
like
he
needs
to
alert
people
in
advance.
He
needs
to
listen
to
the
recording.
He
needs
to.
D
You
know,
write
down
his
comments
and
also-
and
if
and
if
they
fail
to
do
that,
you
know
they're
like
out
of
the
circle
and
like
that
someone
else
comes
to
replace
them
like
something
like
that,
because
I
think
you
know
we've
actually
had
three
three
individuals
right
missing
from
meetings
and
not
communicating
about
it,
and
so
it's
not
just
the
cf.
It's
a
general
kind
of
a
governance
thing.
I
think
first
first
circle
great,
you
know
it's
like
experiments.
D
We
we
volunteers,
you
know
like
nobody,
you
know
it's
like
I'm!
Actually
not
you
know,
I
don't.
I
don't
feel
very
attached
right
to
to
people
coming
or
not
coming,
but
I
think
second
v2.
It
needs
to
be
a
bit
more
tight
and
understanding
that
if
it's
a,
you
know
that
that
you
know
this
organization
is
like
just
to
further
establish
our
legitimacy.
D
Like
you
know,
legitimacy
established
by
showing
up,
and
if
you
don't
show
up
you
delegitimize
the
the
structure
and
and
then
it
needs
to
be
repercussions.
That's
it.
You
know
like
not,
you
know
and,
and
I'm
talking
about
any
any
anyone
who's
took
on
a
role
of
representing
you
know
and
there's
a
there's,
a
some
duty
attached
to
that.
So
because
it's
not
just
team,
it's
like
them.
It's
like
the
it's.
D
The
group
they're
representing
that
need
to
have
their
voice,
and
even
if
it's
not,
if
they're
not,
you
know,
there
needs
to
be
accountability,
and
so
I
think
it's
actually
a
great.
Like
I'm
happy,
we
had.
It
now
happen
early,
because
I
think
you
know
this
whole
thing
about
accountability
is
one
of
those
things
that
I
I
think
is
lacking
for
again,
it's
just
like
a
thing
that
happens
in
in
governance.
D
You
know
it's
like
you
know
the
the
and
and
those
who
don't
develop,
how
to
call
it
like
a
immune
system
for
lack
of
accountability.
You
know
they're
gonna
end
up
being
stagnant,
sex,
stagnant
and
and
two
teethless
like
kind
of
beings,
so
I
feel
pretty
strongly
about
it.
As
you
can
hear.
F
And
it
aligns
with
the
card
on
the
the
next
column
protocol
dealing
with
elective
members
not
showing
up.
So
maybe
we
can
move
on
to
that
one.
Does
anybody
else
have
anything
else
to
contribute
there.
E
Maybe
the
admin
team
can
really
build
something
like
a
draft
like
a
code
of
conduct
for
the
catalyst
circle
members,
she
also
can
evolve
over
iteration
spots
at
minimum
to
come
up
already
with
a
draft
and
to
say
hey,
you
present
yourself
to
represent
the
group.
You
are
countable
for
them
as
well,
and
you
are
accountable
for
the
all
catalyst
circle.
It's
not
only
you
you
function
in
organism,
you
function
in
a
group
and
how
you
represent
yourself
and
the
actions
you
are
doing
falling
back
to
the
whole
group
as
well.
Be
aware
of
this.
D
Yeah
one
one
thing:
one
thing
that
we
do
with
proposers
funded
proposers
is
that
you
know
we
have
this
like
public
kind
of
like
public
table
that
shows
who's
submitting
reports
and
who's,
not
submitting
reports,
and
this
is
very
effective
because
it
it
creates
this
visibility,
transparency,
visibility
about
you,
know,
who's,
who's,
being
accountable
right
and
very
in,
and
I
would
even
say
like
even
having
that,
like
you
know,
just
having
like
okay,
like
here's,
the
representatives,
here's
their
attendance
sheets,
kind
of
you
know
and
just
making
it
visible
is
already-
is
already
a
strong
kind
of
a
social
tool
right
to
to
to
drive
better
behavior.
F
F
If
not
another
card
that
got
two
votes
was
an
official
platform
for
cc
members
for
communication
with
the
communities
or
voters
who
wrote
that
card
yeah.
Do
you
want
to
add
some
more
context.
B
Yeah
this
was
me
again
so
yeah,
that's,
I
think.
Also
we
are.
We
were
discussing
and
and
tried
to
figure
out,
but
we
haven't
managed
that
so
basically
build
a
platform.
So
whenever
you
know
the
next
catwalk
circle
is
coming
and
next
other
circle
members
are
coming.
They
have
some
kind
of
platform
contacts
and
and
already
something
which
basically,
they
can
continue
and
can
continue
to
communicate
with.
You
know
their
members
with
the
community.
B
So
currently
it's
still
like
okay,
so
we
are
moving
on
and-
and
there
is
no
some
kind
of
channel
which
you
can
give
them
and
say.
Okay,
here
are
the
emails
here.
They
are
some
kind
of
you
know
group
where
you
can
communicate
and
which
is
like
a
property
of
of
catalyst
circle.
B
So
that's
I
think,
but
cc
version
two
will
have
to
really
think
and
establish.
So
there
is
some
official
way
to
communicate
and
not
only
from
our
end
to
to
member
to
community,
but
also
you
know
how
they
can
officially
contact
us.
So
currently,
just
you
know,
try
to
try
to
catch
me
on
twitter
or
or
or
telegram
or
come
to
spockra
or
whatever,
but
there
should
be
some
kind
of
official
like
we
can
put
some
emails.
We
can
put
some
other
channels
which
are
official
channels
with
each
of
the
voters.
F
D
Yeah,
I
would,
I
would
propose,
like
for
v2,
to
have
a
an
admin
start.
You
know
again.
If
we
get,
if
we
get
the
funding,
you
know
to
use
the
funding
to
get
a
google
kind
of
corporate
account.
Like
google
apps
account,
I
don't
forget.
What's
called
you
know
that
we
can
have
our
own
email
domain
and
then,
like
each
representative,
gets
its
own
email
domain
to
be
for
for
being
in
contact,
and
that
will
also
make
the
you
know.
Maybe
some
other
tools
there
could
be
useful,
but
then
more
in
the
long
term.
D
This
is
a
kind
of
a
patch
right
just
to
just
have
even
an
official
entity
email
but
then
going
forward,
maybe
maybe
even
start
to
go
down
the
path
of
like.
Should
we
start
like
a
like
a
dao
in
wyoming,
you
know
like
a
dow
entity,
that's
like
so
like,
because
what
it's
like
is
this
admin
now
is
owns
that
email
and
and
his
account.
You
know
some
people
can
come
to
him
and
like
like.
Oh,
the
circle
did
something
illegal
you're
you're
accountable.
D
For
that
you
know
it's
like
it's
a
weird
I
mean
I
just
think
it's
like
literally
not
gonna
happen
in
v2
like
like
the
stuff,
we're
gonna
do,
but
I
think
longer
term.
So
it's
not.
I
don't
think
it's
a
real
risk,
but
I
think
longer
term
we
need
to.
It
makes
sense
that
there
is
some
kind
of
some
kind
of
a
dao
lego
dao
entity,
driving
that
as
it
matures.
F
Okay,
I've
taken
that
as
a
note
anything
else
from
anybody
else
on
the
topic.
F
I
think
a
dow
would
be
amazing
for
a
number
of
our
groups
longer
term,
and
I
really
look
forward
to
seeing
people
building
out
those
smart
contracts
and
systems
on
top
of
our
cardano
so
that
we
can
start
to
assemble
these
dowels,
because
I
think
there's
a
lot
of
groups
that
naturally
would
benefit
from
tending
that
way.
Longer.
A
F
Especially
just
on
the
liability
issue
and
the
legal
standing
and
being
an
entity
but
yeah
any
other
thoughts
or
ideas
on
that
card,
around
official
platforms
for
cc
members.
F
Loris
you
mentioned
that
you
felt
this
was
a
lack
and
I'm
sure
the
cas
and
the
tool
makers
and
maintainers
kind
of
had
a
natural
platform.
Is
that
a
shortcoming
of
the
spl
space
that
it's
a
fractured
community
or
that
you
don't
have
a
single
place
where
all
spos
kind
of
gather.
B
I'm
not
I'm
not
sure
that
if
two
makers
had
you
know
their
group
has
really
you
know
reached
all
the
you
know,
people
in
there
in
their
in
their
community,
so
maybe
they
are
maybe
not
so
for
sps.
Of
course
you
we
have
like
platforms,
but
still
it's
like
not
owned
by
catholic
circle,
so
it's
like.
If
I
leave
it's
up
to
me,
to
leave
or
not
to
give.
You
know
somebody
this
access,
so
that's
kind
of
you
know.
B
I
think
we
need
an
official
platform
there
and
because
I'm
not
sure
if
we
can
reach
all
people.
You
know
if
somebody
comes
next
who
is
coming,
he
has
his
own
some
kind
of
group
or
subgroup
which
he
communicates
and
and
reaches,
and
and
therefore
you
know,
maybe
they
will.
They
will
not
be
reaching
mike
some
kind
of
groups
because
they're
not
familiar
so.
Therefore,
it's
we
have
to
start
to
build
some
kind
of
official
channel
which
really
you
know.
B
Definitely,
each
of
their
own
channels
and
yeah.
Of
course,
one
like
common
one.
It's
great,
so
I
think
town
halls
are
are
already
a
good.
You
know
choice
for
common
ones,
but
for
yeah,
for
you
know
for
spos
for
data
holders,
or
you
know,
anybody
else
definitely
should
be
some
kind
of
channel,
which
is
best
owned
by
catholic
circle.
D
I
that
sounds
really
cool.
I
think
it's
a
cool
experiment.
I
mean
I
would
say
that
the
nice
thing
about
the
circle
is
that
it
brings
all
the
like,
as
someone
mentioned
here
right,
the
the
I
take
a
bird
perspective
and
understand
problems
within
groups,
I'm
naturally
not
involved
in
that's
like
that's,
like
kind
of
like
the
essence
of
the
circle,
like
the
innovation,
it
brings
right.
D
It's
all
these
groups
that
could
have
been
a
siloed
or
not
siloed,
and
I
would
super
advocate
for
having
just
like
kind
of
like
a
slack
channel
for
all
all
the
groups.
You
know
that
they
can.
You
know
they
have
channels
for
each
group,
but
but
they
have
also
a
big
chance
to
intermingle,
because
I
think
that's
like
a
lot
of
the
value
comes
from
there
and,
of
course
people
can
like
follow
and-
and
I
like,
the
idea
of
like
using
a
really
good
full-featured
collaboration
platform
versus
like
discord.
D
That's
like
more
adapted
for
like
video
gamers,
like
I
would
say,
but
like
something
a
bit
more
something
a
bit
more
worky
allows
a
bit
more
like
you
know,
so
something
like
slack
or
or
I
know,
there's
like
other
open
source
stuff,
that's
similar,
but
something
like
that
for
everybody
and
like
having
also
some
sort
of
like
a
mailing
list
that
people
can
subscribe
and
get
get
updates
directly
from
that.
D
B
Yeah,
so
one
solution
would
be
like
some
kind
of
mighty
network,
so
basically
it's
a
platform
where
people
can
join
and
there's
different
groups
and
there's
chat
whatever
you
need.
You
don't
have
to
need
special,
some
kind
of
software.
You
know
to
connect.
Let's
see
it's
easy
to
go
but
yeah.
So
I
think
this
will
be
something
that
ccv2
will
have
to
figure
out
and-
and
I
think
find
a
solution,
because
this
is
crucial.
F
I
think
those
are
all
really
great
ideas.
Does
anybody
else
have
anything
else
to
contribute.
B
I
would
say,
actually,
if
I,
if
I
can
ask,
maybe
felix
you
know
does
this-
is
the
question
that
you
know
and
also
victor.
Do
you
feel
that
you
are
covering
like
wall?
You
know
two
makers
or
all
you
know,
groups
or
there's
something
that
is
still
missing,
and
you
also
prefer
to
have
some
kind
of
platform.
E
Because
I
it's
even
harder
to
really
define
what
are
two
makers
and
maintainers,
especially
when
it
comes
to
maintainers.
What
exactly
is
it
entertainer?
What
is
the
definition
of
the
maintainer,
so
I
was
really
focusing
on
especially
on
the
problems
of
the
people
within
this
group,
so
not
looking
so
much
on
the
specific
group,
but
to
make
and
maintain
as
okay
as
you
have
cohort
and
dictate
all
the
stuff
to
say.
Okay,
all
those
people
constantly
add
value
in
the
community
who
constantly
work
without
even
being
in
the
cohort
and
being
rewarded
for
this.
E
So
this
was
my
main
definition
for
the
tour
maker
and
maintain
to
capture
a
little
bit,
okay,
which
aren't
those
people
and
but
to
your
point
no,
I
don't
think
that
it
was
possible
to
include
all
of
them,
because
you
never
know
when
new
people
come
in.
What
for
initiatives
all
are
all
out
in
the
ecosystem,
especially
as
it's
growing
really
fast,
really
rapid.
C
D
Yeah
I
I'd
love
to
I
mean
I
think
it
is
like
something
felix
said
is
like
interesting,
like
I
think
he
pointed
to
an
interesting
problem
about
the
defining
tool,
makers
and
maintainers
and
there's
some
a
bit
of
overlap
with
them
and
like
funded
proposers
right,
because
I
like
a
lot
of
like,
but
but
also
there's
a
unique
perspective
like
you
know,
if
I'm
building
some
random
decks
or
like,
like
you
know,
and
I'm
like
filling
the
decks
versus
like
I'm
building
like
a
component
in
the
governance
like
like,
if
I'm
doing
a
environment
like
a
facilitator
and
and
for
me
this
is
a
tool,
it's
a
technology
like
any
other
like
it's
like
different
different
perspective,
different
needs.
D
It's
like,
I
think,
the
important
like
the
reason.
Initially,
it
was
even
a
group.
You
know
it
was
because
it
needs
to
be
acknowledged
as
such,
like
like
it's
important
to
actually
like,
like
the
identity
of
that
needs
to
be
formed
and
the
acknowledgement
for
the
people
are
doing.
It
is
really
critical
and
because
of
such
a
fundamental
part
of
the
system,
it's
like.
D
I
don't
know
it's
like
how,
like
I
think,
first
of
all,
like
peop,
like
maybe
a
lot
of
people,
don't
realize
that
you
know
being
a
facilitator
or
running
workshop
means
you
are
a
toolmaker
and
maintainer
right.
Like
many
other
people
associate
this
with
technology
and
you
know
maybe
new
name
new
label,
maybe
even
very
more
formal
definition.
Even
listing
here
are
the
tools
here
are
the
methods
here
are
all
the
things
that
are.
You
know
here's
a
list
of
all
the
50.
I
I'm
guessing
right.
D
D
I
actually
think
that,
like
making
that
explicit
and
almost
like
having
a
registry
kind
of
like
a
toolmaker
registry
or
something
like
that,
that
people
can
come
and
say
like.
Oh
I'm
like
starting
this
thing,
you
know
and
I'm
like-
could
really
help,
but
but
I
want
to
open
this
for
like
a
short
discussion,
I
want
to
hear
what
you
guys
think
of
like
how
how
do
we?
C
So
somehow
you
are
helping
on
the
creation
of
these
tools
and
it's
really
yeah,
it's
really
difficult
to
define,
but
to
improve
the
the
identification
of
people.
With
this
role,
I
would
say
just
to
try
to
list
but
not
limit
the
different
roles
that
people
take
within
catalyst
that
make
make
them
a
tool
maker
or
maintain
it
somehow.
E
So
the
very
first
action
I
did
was
reaching
out
to
victor
and
say:
hey
victor,
as
you
are
in
the
catalyst
form.
If
you
are
in
the
catalyst
alliance
and
as
you
are
in
aim,
you
are
the
perfect
tool
maker
and
maintainer
so
but
wait
you're
representing
the
cas,
but
this
is
strange.
Okay,
so
I
started
my
problems.
Transferring
with
victor.
D
But
it's
like
again,
it's
like
it's
like
the
the
the
you
know.
We
I
mean
I
mean
the
I
remember
when
we
just
started
the
circle
and
we
needed
to
think
about
what
categories
we
are.
It's
like.
D
But
if,
if
all
the
functions
are
in
harmony,
then
the
whole
organism
is
in
harmony,
and
so
it's
just
like
a
really
useful
perspective
to
have
you
know,
even
if
you
are
in
you
know
it's
much
better
than
I
I
I
would
argue
it's
much
better
than
like
an
identity
based
like
like,
like
kind
of
like
all
the
white
people
or
the
black
people,
all
the
people
from
east
asia,
all
the
people
from
india
and
people
who
are
like
rich
and
poor,
like
at
least
for
this
specific
case,
okay,
I
I
would
limit
it
for
the
specific
cases.
D
This
is
the
case.
It
makes
a
lot
of
sense,
because
this
is
what
they
go.
You
know
because
we're
here
to
make
a
something,
really
functional
and-
and
they
have
in
this
tool
makers,
they
have
their
very,
very
specific
functions.
Right,
like
their
function,
is
to
expose.
You
know
all
the
tools
and
methodologies
and
human
processes
that
are
the
best.
You
know
for
us
to
have
a
better
governance
and
it's
like
it's
a
huge
task.
I
mean
it
it
and
it's
important.
They
have.
You
know
it's
important
to
to
that.
D
D
And
one
thing
we
can
do
is
like
put
out
the
survey
and
actually
ask
start
to
ask
every
everyone
kind
of
do
a
little.
You
know
kind
of
a
little
mapping
of
like
what
tools
are
you
currently
maintaining.
You
know
what
what
tools
and
methodologies
and
human
processes
are
you
currently
maintaining
or
building
right
or
making,
and
from
that
we
can
derive
kind
of
a
cool
cool
map
you
know
like
like,
but
but
yeah
it
needs
to
be
recognized.
D
People
need
to
be
able
to
find
each
other
and
to
be
able
to
gather
and
think
and
go
develop
and
give
us
feedback,
and
I
don't
know
it's
already
happening
it
just
like
could
could
happen
even
more
and
especially
like
the
whole
human
process.
Stuff
just
needs
to,
I
think,
need
to
be
more
explicitly
part
of
it
and
more
like
the
people
inside
know,
but
like
it's
like
the
out
the
new
people,
I'm
not
sure
they
know.
F
Those
are
really
good
points,
so
circling
back
to
felix.
What
are
your
thoughts
on
the
topic
now
that
we've
heard
from
the
others.
E
My
thoughts
are
constantly
evolving
and,
just
from
my
experience
what
I
made
a
lot
was,
I
had
a
high
focus
on
timberlaps
for
the
special
specific
case
of
tool,
makers
and
maintainers,
because
jimmy
labs
is
a
group,
a
collective
for
community
job
building
tools
which
also
educate
people
which,
on
board
people
it's
maintaining
relations
in
the
communications.
They
have
very
specific
problems
and
everything
quite
mapped
into
a
into
one
project.
E
D
I
don't
know,
I
guess
the
question
is
like
do
you?
Where
does
it
break
down?
Where
does
the
maybe
a
bit
more
analysis
right
like
like?
What's
the
what
kind
of
concrete
problems
issues
missed
opportunities
like
created
with
the
current
categorization,
and
then
then,
maybe
once
we
expose
that
we
can
talk
about
the
changes
that
can
be
done
so
almost
like
a
retro
internal
retrospective
for
the
tool
makers
to
maintainers
to
to
think
about
it,
I
mean.
F
I
think
there's
definitely
opportunity
here
to
better
define
that
category.
It
seems
like
there's
overlap
and
I
think
a
lot
of
people
in
the
community
wear
a
lot
of
hats.
Like
am
I
myself,
I'm
an
spo,
I'm
a
ca.
I
did
proposals,
I
identify
as
a
tool
maker
indicator
and
I'm
a
general
aida
voter.
F
So
I
fit
all
five
categories
of
the
electable
positions
and
maybe
that's
why
I'm
on
the
admin
team,
because
I
can
like
contribute
across
the
board
but
yeah
and
I
think
many
people
are
in
the
same
way,
because
everything
we're
doing
involves
a
community
and
it's
not
like.
We
we're
hired
into
a
job
and
that's
the
only
thing
you
do.
F
A
lot
of
us
do
lots
of
little
things
and
contribute
where
we
can
but
yeah.
I've
always
wondered
why
how
to
define
the
tool
maker
and
maintainer,
because
it
seems
very
rigid
and
when
I
hear
it
I
think
about
coding
and
tools
and
stuff.
So
I
appreciate
doors,
clarification
of
also
thinking
about
systems
and
mechanisms
and
facilitation,
and
things
like
that
also
are
included
and
yeah
being
able
to
communicate.
E
Think
also,
it
makes
sense
to
because
we
have
iot,
we
have
cf,
we
have
ada
holders
web
cas.
Then
we
have
one
group
tool
makers
and
maintains
a
group
which
includes
two
groups
which
is
kind
of
well.
From
my
perspective,
it
was
also
always
difficult
to
find
a
little
bit
yes,
so
maybe
in
the
further
states,
it
also
makes
makes
would
make
sense
to
split
them
off
also
to
have
to
have
better
text
better
criterias
to
both
of
them
just
easier
to
map
than
to
say.
B
Yeah,
I
think
also
that's
a
good
idea.
Maybe
we
have
to
think
about.
You
know
how
to
define
better,
define
the
tool
makers
in
that
group
so
and
to
split,
maybe
in
smaller
chunks
whatever.
So,
because
it's
it's
it's
it's
the
same
with
sps.
You
know
if
you're
doing
something
else,
then
you're
definitely
in
other
group
and
most
most
probably
in
most
cases
you
are
into
maker
group
because
there's
no,
nothing
else
there.
B
So
the
question
is
like
nfts,
so
you
know
those
people
who
are
doing
that
and-
and-
and
I
don't
know-
maybe
let's
see
a
lot
of
other
things-
it
should
be
popping
up
and
different
groups.
So
should
we
put
it
under
one
or
should
we,
you
know,
have
more
people
from
more
specific
groups
joining
the
catwalk
circle.
D
I
think
there's
like
definitely
needs
to
be
a
formalization
of
like
stuff
like
privacy,
user
rights,
like
you
know,
even
even
though
like
right
now,
it's
a
early
group
of
people
who
are
like
early
adopters
who,
like
kind
of
you,
know
what
happens
when
someone
creates
a
voting
tool,
but
you
know
one
that
records
the
the
votes,
saves
it
and
then
they
use
it
to
extort
people
or
like
dogs,
people
you
know
like
so
that
kind
of
stuff
like
and
it's
you
know
like
these
things
are.
D
These
things
are
gonna
happen
right,
we're
gonna,
we're
gonna,
we're,
building
an
open
api,
we're
we're,
driving
and
open
we're
going
to
drive
an
open
ecosystem
and
there's
going
to
be
some
things.
I
can't
tell
you
right
now,
but,
like
other
excitement,
other
exciting
integrations
and
possibilities
for
developing
that
the
open
tool
ecosystem
of
catalyst.
D
So
it's
just
going
to
go,
grow,
and,
but
now
is
the
time
to
you
know,
put
some
put
some
principles
in
that
can
really
help.
It
evolve
in
the
right
way.
The
right
direction.
F
Right,
I
think
we're
getting
to
the
end
of
our
time
here.
Is
there
any
further
things
that
people
want
to
talk
about
and
nadeem
if
you're
still
around?
How
are
we
doing
for
time?
I'm
just
kind
of
glancing
at
the
clock
in
the.
A
F
F
So,
thank
you.
Let's
wrap
this
up
thanks
for
all
of
your
input
and
conversation,
I
think
a
lot
of
this
will
be
super
useful
for
circle
d2
and
I'm
sure
the
admin
team
will
have
a
lot
of
takeaways
as
well
and
any
final
comments
or
reflections
from
the
circle
members
that
you
want
to
just
leave.
Then
you
circle
with
or
leave
as
a
sound
byte
for
the
the
new
circle
since
we'll
be
using
this
as
a
advertising.
F
How
about
we
just
go
around
for
closing
comments
for
the
retrospective
starting
with
loris
and
then
victor.
B
Oh
okay,
sure,
so
definitely
you
know
there's
a
lot
of
interesting
things
which
happened
during
this.
You
know
three
months
and
I
think
we'll
learn
a
lot
and
actually
a
community
learned
a
lot
about
this.
You
know
it's
it's
nice
to
see
that
we
started
something
great.
I
think
I
need
to
involve
and
become
more
important
and
also
maybe
you
know
in
decision
power
etc.
So
that's
kind
of
you
know
things
which
we
are
looking
forward
and
I
hope
this
will
be
successful.
B
Some
kind
of
you
know
first
some
kind
of
try
of
of
a
group
people
who
basically
later
basically
can
copy
this
type
of
group
or
some
kind
of
community
or
circle
to
other
other
areas.
I
copy
paste
and
and
and
yeah.
So
that's
that's
very
interesting
to
see
how
it
involves
and
yeah
I'm
happy
to
be
part
of
it.
F
Sorry,
victor
and
then
door.
C
Yep,
so
for
me
as
well,
I'm
very
happy
to
be
part
of
the
first
goddess
circle
and
I
think
it
was
a
a
quite
long
journey.
It
was
only
three
to
four
months,
but
it
was
very
satisfying,
at
least
for
me,
to
help
building
the
foundations
for
the
future
of
governance,
and
I
think
that
it's
good
that
it's
like
a
short
mandate,
because
we
can
have
different
people
working
here
in
different
perspectives
and
at
the
same
time
we
can
evaluate
different
approach
to
similar
problems,
and
I
think
this
is
very
valuable
and
and
yeah.
D
Yeah,
I
think
I
think
we
were
we
were
the
lemmings,
like
you
know,
crashing
into
all
the
all
the
you
know:
crazy
traps
and
challenges,
and
at
the
start-
and
we
have
the
you
know,
we
have
the
scars
to
show
it
and
but
and
we
did
a
phenomenal
job
and
I
think
I
think
we're
leaving
to
v2
exactly
what
we
said.
We
were
going
to
do.
Okay,
we're
leaving
a
a
good
foundation
for
them
to
to
to
tackle
a
new,
weird
traps.
E
But
there
is
a
group
of
people
taking
initiative
taking
responsibility
in
a
direction
where
nobody
knows
where
leads
to
and
taking
the
responsibility,
doing
the
steps
exploring
new
ground
with
the
awareness
that
each
step
in
this
direction
is
made
to
build
a
road
for
those
who
will
come
after
us.
So,
and
I
think
we
made
some
amazing
good
steps
in
this
direction
on
the
right
matter
as
well.
We
didn't
abuse
our
leadership
roles
we
stepped
to
the
ground.
D
E
And
the
last
mark,
though,
it's
heavy
to
catch
up
with
you,
yep
really.
You
have
really
really
high
level
of
acting,
and
I
know
that
I
speak
also
for
other
people
in
the
catalyst
circle,
and
you
said
it
was
so
high
that
you
have
a
you,
have
an
atmosphere
of
of
expectation
around
you.
I
think
you
are
aware
of
this,
which
push
people
which
push
them
extremely
sometimes
to
their
limit.
In
some
regards.
D
And
yeah,
I
don't
know
and
I'll
process
this
I'll
I'll.
I
think
I
I
hope
I
can
push
people
towards
being
less
pushing
themselves
beyond
their
capacities
and
help
help
everybody
find
a
good
place
for
them,
because
because
we
actually
need
everybody
to
be
well
and
be
in
harmony,
so
they
can
contribute-
and
you
know
be.
The
best
selves
show
off
is
the
best
selves
for
all
these
all
these
hard
things.
So
I'm
taking
it
as
both
a
compliment
and
something
to
work
on.
F
All
right
thanks
everybody,
I
guess
that'll
wrap
up
the
retrospective
part
of
this.
The
admin
team
will
go
back,
take
notes
and
and
share
the
results.
Thank
you
very
much
for
taking
part.
I
think
it's
a
very
important
activity
to
reflect
so
that
we
can
continue
to
grow
and
evolve,
and
I
know
it's
sometimes
not
easy
and
it
takes
some
time.
So
I
appreciate
all
the
effort
and
and
the
thoughts
and
the
conversation
that
happened
today.
So
thank
you.
A
Thank
you.
You
guys,
I
told
you
guys
this
was
going
to
be
interesting.
It
was
it
was
awesome.
It
was
beautiful,
I
loved
every
minute
of
it
yeah.
Thank
you
guys
really.
Actually
we
wanted.
I
want.
I
was
thinking
of
ending
with
around
of
everyone
speaking
their
final
words,
but
I
guess
that
was
already
just
done,
but
from
our
end
from
the
admin
team,
I
myself
and
on
behalf
of
the
admin
team
want
to
thank
all
of
you.
A
It's
been
an
incredible
honor
working
with
you,
guys,
we've
learned
from
each
and
every
one
of
you
we're
going
to
try
to
continue.
You
know
to
carry
the
torch
forward
and
please
don't
forget
the
responsibilities
you
guys
have
in
mentoring,
ccv2,
for
because
they're
gonna
need
your
your
guidance
and
support
and
we
look
forward
to
staying
in
touch
seeing
around
the
community
and
continue
to
build
together.
Thank
you
so
much
and
yeah,
let's
stay
in
touch
guys.