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A
Perfect,
hello,
everyone.
Thank
you
for
your
time.
So
today
is
the
seventh
meeting
of
the
cc
catalyst
team.
Today
we're
gonna.
Have
we
have
dean,
dore
felix
loris,
victor
from
the
admin
staff?
There's
myself
as
the
facilitator,
supported
by
stephen
as
secretary
michael
as
a
co-secretary
shadow
secretary,
supporting
stephen
unfortunately,
today,
david
and
julian
are
not
able
to
make
it
so
first,
maybe
a
quick
check-in
from
the
circle
members.
A
A
B
I'm
just
trying
to
figure
it
out,
okay,
so
yeah.
Of
course
not
much
has
happened.
You
know
we
had
several
discussions
with
these
spos,
some
of
course,
and
discussed
different
topics,
and
one
of
the
again
was
you
know
like
miscellaneous
things,
etc
and
and
still
guys.
Like
kind
of
you
know,
everyone
agrees
that
it
should
be
something
there,
but
nobody,
actually,
you
know,
comes
with
some
kind
of
idea
how
to
proceed.
B
That
and
and
what
would
be
those
you
know,
categories
which
are
not
covered
and
and
and
as
as
we
know
that
we
are
able,
you
know
to
influence
the
categories
in
the
basket.
So
therefore,
it's
like
kind
of
becomes
a
little
bit
useless
and
therefore
it's
like
not
so
not
not
a
big
boost
in
interest
regarding
that
to
push
it
forward
at
this
stage,.
A
B
Suppose
I
suppose
yeah
the
the
two
makers
and
other
categories-
maybe
they
have
different
use
and
and
we
have
to
revisit
that
kind
of
thing
but
yeah
that's
what
I
get
some
kind
of
feedback.
A
No
thanks
for
that
felix
from
iran,
followed
by
door.
A
C
C
It's
just
been
like
a
lot
of
work
and
the
best
thing
I
mean
I
guess
for
me-
I'm
just
excited,
I
think,
there's
gonna
be
again
still
can't
talk
about
it
that
much
because
it's
still
like
internally
discussed,
but
I
think
there's
gonna
be
an
entire
plan
and
kind
of
strategy
that
is
getting
set
up
for
for
the
coming
year
about
you
know
specific
problems.
We
we
raised
right
for
iog
like
being
the
custodian
of
cardano,
and
how
are
we?
C
How
are
we
moving
that
decentralizing
that
so
there's
like
just
tremendous,
I
don't
know-
I
heard
her
charles,
I
think
in
sami
talking
about
it
and
we're
now
busy
translating
the
the
intention
into
a
plan
of
action
that
is
extremely
complicated
because
it
spans.
You
know
it's
not
easy,
that
we've
been
doing
things
in
a
certain
way
for
five
years,
and
now
we
need
to
transition
away
from
that
and
in
a
short
time.
C
So
it's
a
lot
of
hard
work,
but
I'm
I
feel
confident
that,
because
of
what
we're
seeing
from
catrice
because
of
the
legitimacy
the
community
gained
because
of
catalyst,
the
legitimacy
the
community
gained
from
the
circle,
from
seeing
representatives
like
just
leading
to
constructive
outcomes,
there's
more
more
options
and
more
things
are
feasible
now
than
they
were
like.
Let's
say
like
a
year
a
year
ago,
so
more
to
come.
I
think
it's
gonna
be
great
and
it's
gonna
be
a
lot
of
hard
work.
D
Yeah
sure,
for
me,
I
think
it
was
a
couple
of
slow
weeks
because
I
was
on
vacation
visiting
my
family,
so
I
didn't
spend
so
much
time
doing
catalyst
stuff.
Besides
the
vca
work
and
yeah,
we
started
doing
the
retrospective.
Already
yesterday
we
had
the
proposal
retrospective,
which
was
good.
Some
people
raised
some
problems
regarding
not
only
the
proposer
point
of
view,
but
also
some
other
point
of
views,
and
we
are
continuing
with
this
following
following
week:
I'll
try
to
get
something
more
from
the
ca's
perspective,
this
time
and
yeah
this
week.
D
Also,
we
discussed
me
nadine
door
about
the
voting
process
for
circle
v2,
but
I
think
that
we
are
going
to
talk
about
this
during
the
meeting
itself.
A
Awesome
and
victor
officially
resigned
this
week
is
what
that's
another.
Yes,
she
resigned.
D
A
A
E
E
Then
we
just
drop
the
question
yeah,
who
will
from
you
would
like
to
leave
the
date
shop
and
go
full
time
into
catalyst
and
everybody
in
the
room
was
ready
to
go.
So
this
is
something
really
interesting
after
having
a
very
negative
feedback
about
yeah.
This
doesn't
work.
This
doesn't
work.
This
doesn't
work.
Anybody
everybody
in
the
room
said
yeah.
E
I
would
go
fully.
I
will
definitely
play
with
the
idea
to
go
full-time
catalyst,
so
which
brings
me
a
lot
to
the
point
that
yeah
we
are
building
society,
and
this
is
really
beautiful
and
I
think
also
catholic
circle
plays
an
important
role
there
and
will
also
play.
Hopefully,
when
we
do
everything
right.
A
Brilliant
brilliant,
brilliant
awesome
dean
welcome
back.
Please
go.
F
Yeah,
sorry,
my
connection
is
just
a
mess
today,
so
I
met
with
the
the
circle
and
they
invited
this
gentleman
peter
near
up.
I
think
he
has
a
stake,
pool,
I'm
not
100
sure
but
he's
in
analytics,
and
he
has
a
pretty
large
presence
on
twitter
and
he
he
breaks
down
all
these
different.
You
know
how
many
wallets
there
are,
how
much
are
in
the
wallets
this.
F
You
know
all
these
different
types
of
analytics
and
he
asked
me
what
he
could
do
to
help
the
rc
and
when
we
talked
in
our
meeting
I
asked
him
if
there,
if
he
could
basically
come
up
with
the
I
guess,
the
the
the
percentage
of
voting
from
the
individual,
I
guess
wallets
or
like
larger,
wallets,
smaller
wallets,
mid-size,
wallets
and
the
percentage
of
actual
voters.
F
So
that's
something
that
him
and
I
are
are
on
a
basically
like
a
sidebar
working
on,
but
that
was
the
reason
why
they
introduced
him
to
me
in
the
search
committee
was
to
see
if
he
can
come
up
with
his
analytics,
because
that's
his
company,
that's
what
they
do
so
if
they
can
come
up
with
numbers
for
us
to
kind
of
help,
I
guess
focus
moving
forward.
A
Awesome
good
stuff,
brilliant,
so
moving
forward,
let's
go
through
quickly
the
agenda,
there's
not
a
lot
of
items
and
obviously
timing
can
be
interchangeable,
so
we're
spending
a
chunk
of
time
to
go
through
the
trello
board.
That's
our
latest
update
of
all
the
problems
or
items
that
everyone
is
working
on,
so
we'll
pass
through
each
person
to
give
us
an
update
on.
A
You
know
what
what
changes
and
updates
have
been
happening
on
the
channel
board
so
that
we're
all
aligned
then
recently
a
couple
of
days
ago,
victor
dorr
and
I
had
a
call
and
we
have
sort
of
a
proposed
election
process
that
will
take
you
through
this,
because
this
is
something
that
we'll
need
to
start
doing
asap
and
we
have
a
direction,
obviously
we'll
all
have
to
go
through
it
and
align
it
together
and
then
finally,
going
through
the
action
items
and
then
feedback
for
improvement,
so
we're
starting
with
the
cello,
and
this
I
believe
steven.
F
Yeah
I
could
share
the
channel.
D
A
Yes,
perfect
awesome
so
based
on
the
latest
updates,
I'm
not
sure
if
everyone
is
keeping
this
updated,
but
this
is
the
latest
visibility
that
we
have.
It
might
be.
You
know
it
might
need
some
updating,
which
is
the
reason
for
this
the
session
so
we'll
go
through
each
person
discuss
you
know
what
are
the
latest
updates
here?
Are
there
new
problems
that
we're
working
on?
Have
we
closed
any
of
these
items?
Have
we
moved
them
along
within
this
process?
So
maybe
we'll
take
the
the
same
sort
of
flow
lorries?
Please.
B
So
from
my
side,
you
know
we
don't
have
anything
which
is
going
forward
this
this
time,
so
yeah
we're
still
waiting
for
the
finishing
for
funding.
So
we,
after
the
voting,
is
supposed
to
be
one
thing
which
will
move
forward
or
will
be
changed.
Otherwise,
everything
to
still
just
say
the
same.
A
All
right,
okay-
and
I
I
believe
now
we
we're
gonna-
have
to
all
focus
on
on
the
election,
so
maybe
adding
new
items
now
is
not
question.
We'll
need
to
start
to
try
to
finalize
the
action
items
that
we
have
to
do
as
as
a
circle
all
right
so
door.
Is
there
any
updates
from
your
hand
in
terms
of
these
action
items
followed
by
victor.
C
Sure,
first
of
all,
just
a
quick
methodology
like
I
see,
there's
like
some
tickets
here
that
have
no
owners,
and
I
think
it's
actually
important
that
every
ticket
have
a
specific
owner
from
the
circle.
So
maybe
maybe
in
the
end
of
the
meeting.
If
we
have
some
extra
time,
we
can
go
through
the
empty
tickets
and
decide
who's
the
owner
of
them
or
or
maybe
the
administrators
can
sign
according
to
what
they
remember.
A
Yeah
yeah
we
were
proposing
if
everyone
is
fine
with
it
to
move
to
jira.
So
we
know
that
we've
been
working
as
the
admin
team
on
jira
testing
it
out
and
you
can
easily
assign
people
and
you
can
write,
notes
and
updates.
It's
a
lot
easier.
So
if
everyone
is
fine
with
this
by
the
next
session,
we
can
move
to
to
jira
each
each
of
the
items
will
be
assigned.
A
Yeah,
that's!
Why
that's
why
we
didn't
propose
it
yet,
but
yeah,
because
this
is
not
easy.
What
we're
finding!
We
were
all
agreeing
that
jira
might
be
better,
so
yeah
next
session.
B
C
Yeah,
I'm
I'm
a
real.
I
work
in
jira
every
day
and
I
absolutely
hate
it.
I
really
hope
that
we
can
consider
other
alternatives
like
asana,
for
example
or
stuff.
That's
a
bit
more
light
than
jira,
because
they're
really
heavy
and
it's.
I
think
it
will
prevent
a
lot
of
people
for
participating
and
also
maybe
a
clear
understanding
of
like
what
are
the
requirements
of
the
tool
anyway.
C
Just
moving
to
the
actual
subject,
we're
talking
about
so
this
okay,
this
item,
how
does
io
catalyst
com,
so
we
have
one
in
the
problem:
backlog
even
yeah,
so
this
one.
So
this
you
can
add
me
as
a
as
an
owner
of
that.
C
I
actually,
I
think
it
would
be
great,
I
mean
like
just
looking
at
it.
I
think
it
would
be
great
that
maybe
we
can
have
a
a
discussion
from
the
circle.
I'd
love
to
hear
from
the
circle
members
their
perspective
on
this
problem
like
how
do
they
encounter
it
and
we
can
start
to
move
it.
So
maybe
we
can
take
this
off
this
main
meeting
and
maybe
schedule
maybe
someone
that
who
feels
they
can
relate
to
it.
C
Okay,
so
this
this
problem
of,
like
you
know,
I
would
call
it
like
the
need
of
the
different
groups
in
catalyst
like
understanding
like
what
is
what
is
iok
like
current.
Why
is
iohk
currently
working
on
what
is
in
the
pipeline?
C
You
know
collaborate
on
things
more
effectively,
iog
and
the
rest
of
the
community,
and
if
you
think,
it's
relating
related
to
your
group
then
raise
your
hands
and
let's
set
the
I
suggest
we
we
can
set
a
meeting
next
week
to
to
really
review
it
like
I
want.
I
want
to
hear
everybody's
perspective
about
it,
so
we
can
start
to
define
this
problem
a
bit
better.
A
E
A
Perfect
so
we
can
schedule
a
meeting
next
week.
Maybe
we
can
agree
on
a
date
and
time
separately,
yeah
through
telegram.
C
I
think
same
time
I
mean
if
we
can
do
the
same
time
next
week.
It's
easy
for
me.
I
think
my
my
schedule
is
open.
Okay,
so
this
is
one
ticket.
So
let's
try
to
move
it
forward.
The
the
other
one
is
the
this
one,
and
so
this
is
where
we're
moving
like,
as
I
said
in
my
update,
right,
we're
moving
towards
having
it
a
well-defined
problem.
I
mean.
Currently,
the
internal
process
is
one
of
of
mapping.
Okay,
we're
actually
both
in
catalyst
and
outside
of
catalyst.
We're
mapping
any
point
of
that.
C
I
iog
has
has
kind
of
control
over
just
like
mapping
it
and
then
like
seeing
like
okay,
so
we
want
to
move
from
that
being
in
iowa,
not
being
not
being
an
io
under
custody
and
we're
starting
to
you
know,
raise
different
options.
Okay
like
who
is
like
is
the
cf.
You
know
it's
like
some
parts
like
should
be
the
cf.
Some
parts
should
be
community
like
treasury
funded
stuff.
You
know,
maybe
some
some
of
it
should
be.
This
entity
called
the
dcf.
You
know
that
still
needs
to
be
defined
a
bit.
C
C
So
we're
doing
that,
and-
and
I
think
you
know
once
we
map
and
prioritize-
you
know
we
can
share
that
with
the
community
and
we
can
start
to
to
have
a
much
broader
conversation
of
like
okay,
so
who's
who's,
the
best
adapted
right
to
take
on
these
things,
and
how
does
the
transition
looks
like
and
and-
and
I
think
it's
good
to
come-
come
there
kind
of
with
the
framework
ready
and
all
the
iog
stakeholders
kind
of
unified
on
the
the
approach
so
just
to
prevent
messiness.
C
A
Thanks
for
the
update
on
that,
there
are
any
other
action
items
here
that
that
you
have
an
update
on.
D
Yeah
so
from
the
ca
group,
we've
got
a
problem
which
is
the
lack
of
a
reputation
system
for
cs
in
this
case,
and
I
think
this
one
has
just
been
picked
up
by
the
community.
You've
got
to
see.
We
came
up
with
the
with
the
draft
for
a
reputation
system,
and
this
is
now
being
discussed
among
the
cas,
and
I
mentioned
he
is
going
to
share
this
with
the
ig
research
group
zone
when
we
have
a
better
document.
So
I
think
we
can
move
this
one
to
pick
it
up.
D
D
So
we
just
finished
the
vca
round
the
keyway
phase,
and
I'm
not
sure
if
we
should
move
this
already
to
validation,
because
we've
just
received
the
data
from
from
this
from
this
qa
stage
and
I'm
going
to
analyze,
it
do
some
some
charts
again
and
check
how
how
how
it
went
if
it
went
well,
we
were
able
to
remove
the
assessments
and
everything,
so
we
are
moving
forward
with
this,
but
I'm
not
sure
if
it's
already
the
time
to
move
this
to
the
validation
column.
A
Yeah,
I
think
yeah.
It
makes
sense
to
keep
it
there
for
now,
until
until
next
update
or
possibly.
D
A
E
So
I
think
the
faster
funding
for
cutlass
projects,
what
we
made
with
the
rapid
funding
mechanism
challenge
team.
Well,
everything
is
done
no
pending
just
waiting
for
voting,
hopefully
funding
as
well.
So
I
think
that
we
arrive
to
set
up
a
very
first
frame
where
actual
actions
later
can
take
place.
It's
not
sure
how
we,
if
we
can
move
it
forward
already.
A
Yeah
I
mean
from
our
end,
this
is
all
done,
so
I
believe
it's
just
now
awaiting
final
outcome.
Right.
E
Ranking
as
well
just
check
today
again,
I
think
it
was
five
out
of
five
for
every
category.
It's
already
nice
great,
then.
What
next
to
my
comment
and
a
need
for
community
reward
system,
then
nothing
happened,
then
the
improved
catalyst
onboarding.
I
think
we
had
two
experiences
where
well.
We
still
didn't
have
the
time
to
wrap
it
up,
to
documentate
it
and
to
create
a
or
write
a
protocol
out
of
it.
C
Yeah,
I
just
want
to
mention
that
we
have
a
a
lot
of
leverage
with
the
unification
system.
Maybe
some
of
you
started
to
see
that
people
can
indicate
in
the
app
and
get
push
notifications
and
we're
still
waiting
for
those
I'm
still
waiting
for
those
kind
of
like
curated
links
like
on
onboarding
funnels
that
we
can
so
we
can
divert
those
people
and
and
divert
them
to
onboarding
processes.
E
And
one
thing
why?
I'm
not
sure,
because
there
are
two
cards:
there's
one
time:
improve
catalyst
onboarding
and
on
the
outside,
there's
a
lack
of
onboarding
introduction
systems
and
structures
for
project
catalysts.
So
I
don't
see
where's
the
difference
between
the
both
I
don't
even
know
who
set
them
up
and
I'm
owner
of
both,
but
a
little
messy
for
me
to
understand
the
difference
between
both.
If
there's
a
difference.
E
E
Yes,
it
is
duplicate.
Why
am
I
wrong
so.
A
A
Awesome
so
one
thing
that
we
sort
of
also
discussed
is
maybe
using
this
time
for
the
next
meeting
to
have
maybe
two
or
three
different
breakout
rooms.
A
So
if
you
guys
feel
I
mean
first,
what
do
you
guys
think
of
this,
and
maybe
we
can
think
of
themes,
different
themes
of
each
breakout
group
and
what
we
need
to
discuss
in
the
next?
The
next
call,
if
you
guys
feel
it
would
be
a
better
format,
because
last
time
we
spoke,
it
seemed
like
everyone
was
interested
in
this.
C
Yeah
I
was
typing,
I
was
typing
a
text.
I
was
having
a
side
conversation
with
victor
about
fixing
the
issue.
Can
you
repeat
the
question.
A
No
no
worries
so
last
session
we
had
discussed
the
possibility
of
doing
breakout
rooms
using
this
time
to
create
two
or
three
different
breakout
rooms,
and
there
seemed
to
be
an
appetite.
So
we,
if
you
guys,
want
to
agree
on
next
session
if
we're
going
to
have
two
or
three
different
breakout
rooms.
What
would
be
the
themes?
Is
this
an
idea
that
you
guys
would
like
to
pursue
for
next
meeting
in
two
weeks.
C
C
Yeah,
I
I
I
totally
nominate
the
the
two
I
o
ones
to
to
to
have
a
breakout
room
about
them
like
with
with
you
know,
maybe
one
one
or
two
people
can
can
have
a
breakout
room
with
me
and
it
could
be
kind
of
a
follow-up
on
the
conversation
we'll
have
next
week.
A
Sounds
good?
Would
anyone
else
like
to
have
a
specific
breakout
room?
Another
an
alternative
is
that
we
would
we
can
agree,
you
guys
can
take
your
time
and
we
can
all
agree
on
during
the
in
the
telegram
chat
if
we're
going
to
have
two
or
three
different
breakout
rooms
and
what
are
the
themes,
so
you
can
have
your
time
to
think
of.
It
sounds
good.
A
So
for
that,
as
mentioned,
I
had
a
call
with
thor
and
victor
just
a
couple
of
days
ago,
and
this
is
sort
of
a
proposed
direction
that
we
all
would
like
to
sort
of
align
with
you
guys.
So
the
way
we've
broken
it
down
is
in
three
different
stages:
one
is
the
pre-election
process
and
then
during
the
election
and
then
post-election
and
here's,
the
timeline
d
is
the
day
of
the
election.
A
Obviously
there
are
different
constituencies
and
groups
and,
as
we
saw
that
each
group
is
going
to
approach
this
differently-
and
you
know
what
works
for
one
might
not
work
for
the
other.
So
here
we're
sort
of
mimicking
what
happened
previously
and
obviously
each
person
within
within
their
group
can
choose
to
has
a
bit
of
liberty,
so
this
is
not
all
set
in
stone,
so
we'll
go
through
each
of
them
in
detail
and
who's
doing.
A
So,
first
as
in
pre-election
process,
20
days
before
the
election,
we
announced
the
nomination
of
each
of
the
groups,
so
we're
putting
this
as
20
days
before
the
election
date
to
give
enough
time.
So
here
an
opportunity
is
for
all
of
us
to
agree.
How
are
we
going
to
announce
this
to
try
to
get
as
much
as
much
reach
as
possible,
and
an
opportunity
here
is
to
use
the
new
push
notification
for
this
to
let
everyone
know
that
there's
a
nomination
based
on
their
own
constituency.
C
Can
we
make
a
cool
video
together?
Can
we
can
we
do
like?
Because
I
think
if
we
make
like
a
like
a
two
minute
video
where
each
of
us
kind
of
comes
and
like
like
talk
a
bit,
you
know
just
like
easy
to
disseminate.
You
know,
then
we
can
like
put
it
on
reddit
and
twitter
and,
like
I
can
actually
talk
to
like
the
general
telegram
of
the
cardano.
You
know
it
has
like.
I
don't
know
whatever
60
000
people
or
something
like
that.
You
know
we
can.
We
can
put
it
there.
C
C
I
think
I
I
thought
just
one
video
where
we're
like:
hey
like
hey
advisors,
spos
voters
like
da
da
da
like
we
need
you
and,
like
you
know,
and
then,
like
you
know,
there's
a
kind
of
like
changing
heads
like
each
one,
like
maybe
just
like
some
kind
of
a
basic
script.
C
You
know
where,
where
like
each
one
of
us
says
like
something
about,
what's
like
the
best
thing
about
the
circle
and
what's
the
and
what's
the
specific
requirements
of
the
role
and
also
like,
what's
the
compensation,
something
maybe
that's
like
the
like,
the
really
basic
one
and
it
and
and
it's
like
really
short
and
just
like
the
end
of
it
is
just
like.
A
It
seems,
like
everyone
likes
the
idea,
I
love
it
as
well
cool
who
would
like
to
lead
on
this
initiative.
We
need
some
epic.
A
E
D
A
A
Out
amazing
cool:
let's
do
that
as
an
action
item.
I
think
that
would
be
great
and
we
can
also
use
the
push
notification
because
we
can
practically
reach
everyone
from
the
catalyst
community
so
great,
and
then
here
this
is
another
topic
to
discuss.
So
we
were
thinking.
A
A
I
feel
it
might
not
be
enough
time
to
really
do
any
work,
because
even
from
the
first
circuit
it
took
maybe
a
month
or
so
just
to
get
started
really
so
we're
considering
having
the
next
election
term
for
the
term
of
the
next
ccv
to
six
months,
instead
of
three
months
with
the
with
the
addition
that
the
veterans
yourselves
would
stick
around
for
that
six
months,
but
only
as
mentors
it
shouldn't
take
a
lot
of
your
time,
but
you
would
be
sort
of
their
body.
A
You
know
sort
of
guiding
them
giving
them
advice,
but
not
necessarily
doing
all
the
work
to
guide
and
clarify
expectations
to
new
to
the
newcomers.
What
do
you
guys
think
of
that?
Extending
it
from
three
to
six
months,
while
keeping
yourselves
just
just
as
mentors
overshadowed.
A
Which
was
exactly
the
next
point,
you're
100
right
I
mean
we
cannot
expect
people
to
keep
doing
this
for
free
and
so
a
discussion
here.
This
is
why
it
was
an
open
discussion
on.
We
know.
We
believe
the
power
up
proposal
was
only
for
three
months,
so
we
all
need
to
agree.
If
we're
gonna
move
ahead
with
the
six
months,
then
how
do
we
secure
the
funding
for
the
next
three
months
and
that's
the
topic
that
we
had
kept
as
a
caveat
to
discuss
so
I'd
love,
anyone's
thoughts
door?
Please
go
ahead.
C
Saying
that
it's
not
that
it's
like,
we
need
to
add
a
new
circle
funding
proposal.
You
know
to
accommodate
for
extra
three
months
right
of
of
the
term
of
v2
but,
as
felix
says,
also
accommodate
for
the
extra
scope
of
work
of
like.
If,
if
the
former
catalyst
circle
members
are
also
mentoring,
they
should
also
be
compensated
for
that.
A
D
I
think
we
spend
approximately
two
meetings
to
understand
how
to
operate
this
cc,
but
we
are
also
the
first
system.
This
is
one
at
least
cv2.
We
have
an
example
to
follow
and
see
what
worked,
what
didn't
work.
So
maybe
we
can
try
to
have
the
next
one
for
three
months
and
see
how
it
goes.
Maybe
it's
going
to
be
easier
for
them
than
it
was
for
us,
and
if
it
doesn't
work
then
we
can,
they
can
submit
a
proposal
for
six
months
or
cb3,
for
example,
this
could
solve
both
problems.
C
I
think
there's
a
reason
why
usually
like
terms
are
not
so
not
so
short,
usually
because
I
I
do
think,
there's
a
lot
of
domain
knowledge
that
needs
to
happen
and
transfer,
and
I
mean
I
I
I
would
feel
more
confident
about
the
six
term
I
mean
we
can.
Do
I
mean
victor.
I
think
that's
also
a
reasonable
idea.
We
could
do
three
and
wait.
C
I
do
think
that
I
do
believe
that
now
that
catalyst
itself
has
a
much
higher
profile
in
the
community
and
also
defending
amounts
are
much
bigger.
We're
going
to
attract
much
more
way.
More
candidates
will
have
a
higher
like
the
quality
candidate
pool
is
going
to
go
up
and
I
think
it's
fine
to
ask
people
to
commit
for
longer,
and-
and
I
mean
I
think
it's
that's
my
intuition
and
but
also
that's
just
my.
I
just
want
to
emphasize
just
my
opinion.
E
So
after
six
months,
you
have
14
people
who
had
the
experience
instead
of
six,
and
I
think
this
is
valuable
by
moving
later
into
longer.
Iterations
also
it
has
the
admin
team
admin
team
can
have
longer
iterations
steer
and
help
the
process
a
little
bit
yep
but
yeah.
I
think
just
get
as
much
experience
as
in
short
time
as
possible
together
and
then
build
up
on
this
and
make
it
long.
B
Yeah,
that
was
something
similar,
but
I
also
thought
that
you
know
we
are
not
like
yet
established
like
a
company
which
you
know
who
knows
everything
how
it
should
be
done,
etc
and
therefore
there
are
a
lot
of
inputs
which
are
needed.
You
know
from
different
people
and
I
think
more
people
coming
here,
more
information,
more
some
kind
of
you
know
ideas
would
be
better.
B
Six
months
is
large
long
period,
especially
if
you
see
the
budgets
you
know
for
for
next
cc
catalyst,
and
you
know
we.
We
understand
that
you
know
what
kind
of
scope
they
will
have
to
do,
and
it's
not
an
easy
task.
It's
not
easy
job
for
them
to
do
so.
I
would.
I
would
think
that
six
months
will
scare
some
people
off
who
already
like,
are
committed
in
other
projects,
but
but
yeah.
That's
just
my
thoughts.
E
B
B
So
maybe
you
know
two
weeks
before
that
you
know
you
have
to
do
something
and
on
board
either.
You
know
you
join
already.
You
know
the
the
the
current
cc
team
and
this,
of
course
the
second
do
not
manage
to
do
it
with
us,
but
I
didn't
know
that
we
make
the
elections
a
bit
earlier,
so
the
next
catalyst
team
can
join
already
like
and
we
know
who
they
are
and
they
can
join
those
meetings
like
at
least
two
meetings
or
whatever
and
and
yeah,
and
understand
how
they
know
the
dynamics.
B
Of
course
they
have
seen
the
different.
You
know:
videos
how
we
are
doing
that,
but
but
stick
to
the
three
months,
the
let's
say
the
the
some
kind
of
period
where
they
really
are
super
active
six
months,
then
people
will
be
okay,
I
have
six
months.
So
I
don't
have
to
hurry,
you
know,
so
I
think
we
need
the
speed
now
and
and
rotation
and
yeah
that
kind
of
stuff.
A
Actually
I'll
keep
that
for
steven,
I
was
just
going
to
update
it,
but
it's
probably
taking
notes.
Is
that
correct,
stephen
or
yeah?
Okay
cool?
So
then,
so
we
announced
the
nominations
we
give
people
ten
days
and
then
we
secure
the
nominations
that
we
secure
confirmation
from
the
nominees
so
yeah,
so
we're
using
the
same
process
here
that
has
happened
previously
and
again
feel
free
to
feel
like.
Maybe
your
group
wants
to
do
something
a
little
bit
differently.
That's
that's!
That's
totally
fine!
A
So
then
we
identify
the
voters
and
observers
who's
going
to
be
in
the
room.
Who's
going
to
vote
who's
going
to
be
just
watching
an
opportunity
is
to
identify
activities
in
attracting
more
members
in
the
community.
A
E
D
E
B
So
also
you
know
we
have
to
be
doing
in
the
town
halls
we
have
to
understand.
We
have
two
town
halls
which
are
quite
active
and
you
know
then
it
means
also
the
people
who
are
going
for
this.
They
will
have
to
be
on
both.
B
That
would
be
ideal,
but
the
problem
is
again,
you
know
a
lot
of
people
who
don't
speak,
english,
it's
which
it's
not
their.
You
know
mother
language,
so
that's
kind
of
kind
of
issue.
I
don't
know
how
to
solve
this
because
last
time,
basically
we
had
like
a
town
hall
on
on
wednesday
and
there
was
another
one
town
hall,
but
where
basically
no
one
was
there,
so
we
have
to
figure
out
how
to
cover
all
regions
and
yeah.
A
Just
a
quick
one
door
before
moving
to
you.
What
does
everyone
think
about
the
cc
election
fest?
That
felix
mentioned
we're
having
a
specific
day
so
that
everyone
knows
that
they're
coming
and
I'm
just
imagining
it
in
my
head
as
well
that
at
least
the
sessions
for
the
election
can
go
after
each
other,
rather
than
all
having
to
go
simultaneously,
so
that
people
can
watch
all
the
elections
if
they
wanted
to.
I.
B
Would
go
yesterday,
my
comment
will
be
go
to
stick
with
stonehall
because
those
are
like
official
ones
and
I
don't
think
we
should
create
some
one
more
event,
and-
and
usually
you
know,
you
are
voting
for
your
representative,
so
you
are
basically
in
one
breakout
room
listening
to
your
the
people
who
will
be
representing
you,
then
just
jumping
around.
So
therefore
we
can
do
it.
I
think
on
seven.
I
don't
want
to
do
a
big
show.
C
C
Where
would
we
get
more
engagement
in
like
in
the
town
hall,
but
I
see,
and
I
see
pros
and
cons
for
each
approach,
like
you
know,
on
a
wednesday
like
you
know,
we
know
that
there's
like
a
certain
amount
of
people
like
you
know,
whatever
130
people
coming
usually
to
town
halls
and
then
like
another,
I
don't
know
70
or
more
coming
to
the
eastern
town
halls
right.
So
if
we
ride
on
this,
we
know
we
can
depend
on
this
amount
of
people.
C
At
least
that
will
come,
and
at
least
them
they
will
show
up.
Then
the
the
the
counter
argument
is
that
you
know,
like
let's
say,
like
doing
a
special
event
in
the
weekend.
Maybe
it
will
enable
even
more
people
to
show
up.
So
it's
hard
of
me
to
to
determine.
I
think
I
think
it's
more
it's
it's
like
we
can
look
at
the
past,
like
id
fest
was
held
in
the
weekend
right,
the
last
one,
how
many?
E
E
C
Right,
but,
but
and
and
in
the
regular
weak
town
halls,
we
have
a
larger
number
right.
So
at
least
the
question
is
like:
if
we,
if,
if
we
actually
like
start
to
push
it
and
market
it
more,
will
there
be
more
people
in
the
weekend
or
not
versus
the
town
hall?
And
it's
it's
really
hard
to
know.
I
maybe
I
mean
I
mean
you
guys
know
the
community.
What
what
do
you
like?
Okay,
maybe
just
like
use
your
intuition.
What
do
you
think
would
lead
to
more?
C
D
I
think
that
if
we
move
to
a
different
day,
we
should
create
a
whole
event.
I
mean
not
a
big
event
but
have
have
different
things
about
governance
to
be
talked.
Maybe
this
could
attract
more
people
to
to
be
interested
like
having
something
someone
from
iog
is
someone
from
cardinal
foundation?
Maybe
charles
can
can
be
there
to
give
a
speech
for
five
minutes.
Something
like
this
to
bring
more
attention
to
the
circle.
This
could
be.
It
could
be
good.
C
Yeah,
charles
might
be
a
candidate
for
the
circle
by
the
way
he
said,
I
think
he
was
about.
He
said
he
wanted
to,
for
the
this
circle
is
actually
going
to
be
a
big,
attractive,
attractive
point
for
people
to
join,
because,
if
he's
joined,
probably
other
people
want
to
get
a
chance
to
hang
out
with
him
every
two
weeks,
so
they'll
be.
C
C
He
might,
I
think,
I
need
to
ask.
We
need
to
talk
to
him,
but
I
think
there's
a
good
chance.
He
will
be
he
he
wanted
in
the
first
one,
and
so
I
think
for
this
one
I
think
there's
a
if
you
know
I
think
if
we
make
a
point
out
of
like
really
asking
him
in
a
timely
way,
then
then
I
think
there's
a
good
chance.
It
will.
D
C
The
point
is,
I'm
saying:
like
that's
one,
that's
one
dimension
right
the
the
time.
Then
the
other
dimension
is.
C
You
know:
can
we
create
a
decision-making
process,
something
there
that
can
actually
help
us
elect
higher
quality
candidates?
Right
like
like,
can
can
this
like
the
fact
that
it's
like
a
unique
event
and
having
a
you
know
that
it
has
his
own
thing
happening,
you
know:
can
we
do
something
there?
That
would
make
the
the
actual
process
better?
C
That
would
lead
to
better
outcomes,
and
that's,
I
think,
that's
also
interesting
like,
and
I
think
that's
a
lot
about
the
question
of
like,
first
of
all,
if
there's
anybody
who's
like
because,
because
with
town
halls,
we
have
already
the
infrastructure
set
up,
it's
like
minimal
effort
right
there's.
No,
the
people
are
there.
The
event
is
there.
You
know
we
can
just
say
like
a
first
half
hour
of
whatever
first
hour
of
town
horror,
we
can
even
have
no
town
hall
and
just
do
elections.
You
know
and
that's
easy,
but
but
then
like.
B
Is
one
more
comment,
so
basically,
what
I
see,
of
course,
is
you
know
door
said
that
it
already
has
this
structure,
but
maybe
the
plus,
for
you
know
having
a
different
event,
is
attracting
people
who
are
not
coming
to
the
town
hall.
So
it's
like
you
know
there.
Isn't
you
know,
town
hall
is
people,
you
know
who
already
are
maybe
know
a
lot,
but,
for
example,
for
groups
like
you
know,
head
holders
or
staple
operators
and
others
you
know
who
are
you
know
so
far?
B
Maybe
they
heard
about
something
in
town
hall,
so
it
will
maybe
a
good
idea,
for
you
know
to
have
really
some
kind
of
different
event,
new
event,
which
will
be
a
little
bit
more
natural.
You
know
and
it
could
help
attract
more
people.
So
maybe,
but
the
question
is,
you
know:
do
we
have
the
manpower
and
everything
you
know
to
manage
that?
I
suppose
felix
can
comment
on
that,
but
yeah.
So
you
know
no
till
you
know,
as
always,.
E
E
I
think
this
has
a
symbolic,
really
high
value,
also
say
it's
not
iot.
We
set
set
up
it's
a
community
who
comes
together,
who
sets
up
the
hosts
who
make
sure
that
he
rents
everything
will
run
out
well
and
all
the
stuff
also
allows
the
community
again
and
another
part
to
become
part
of
qatar.
The
circle.
A
A
Yeah
dora
is
this
something
maybe
you
can
discuss
with
iot
to
see.
If,
if
there
can
support
on
this
and
felix,
I'm
also,
I
mean
yeah
any
any
support
that
you
might
need,
please
let
us
know
as
well.
We
will
try
to
help,
so
it
seems
like
we're
all
aligned
on
it
and
we'll
agree
on
the
logistics
and
the
resources
in
the
next
few
days.
E
C
C
You
know,
I
think
it's
one
off
because
I
think
there's
something
not
perfect
about,
because
they're
also
going
to
get
voted
right
at
some
point
in
right,
the
the
the
the
administrators.
So
it's
not
good
that
they
also
are
the
election
committee,
but
it's
not
gonna
happen
for
the
next
one.
So
I
think
we
could
we.
We
should
be
fine
like
to
do
that
as
a
one-off
and
and
yeah
I
mean
I
wouldn't
mind
if
it
rides
on
the
back
of
of
a
swarm
session
or
something
like
that.
C
It's
fine
right,
like
it
happens
on
the
weekend
and
and
you
guys
have
already
set
up
like
the
the
thing
you
know
like
you
already
have
a
zoom
and
invitations
and
people
and
facilitators
like
in
place-
and
you
can
do
the
let's
say
like
setting
the
space
in
the
production,
but
then
the
admins
to
the
the
election
and
even
administration.
A
Awesome,
I
guess
we're
aligned
so
so
now.
This
gives
us
the
opportunity
to
rethink
this
now
that
we're
having
our
own
dedicated
sort
of
event.
Initially
in
town
halls
it
used
to
be
to
okay,
the
election
starts
instruct
attendees
to
go
to
the
breakout
rooms.
Here
the
suggestion
was
to
have
a
community
community
satisfaction
survey
after
the
breakout
room
to
ask
the
community
how
we
can
improve
the
election
process.
A
But
if
we
go
with
this
direction
of
its
own
event,
then
that's
not
really
relevant.
Then
we
show
the
agenda,
then
the
election
process,
so
each
person
presents
for
five
minutes
here.
I
think
that
would
help
is
to
have
references
prepared
about
each
nominee
to
help
all
the
voters
be
more
informed
about
who
this
person
is
their
background.
That's
all
available
to
them.
They'll
see
everyone,
and
when
we
announce
the
nominations
we
there
are
two
things
that
we
need.
A
We
need
to
do
so
number
one
is
we're
proposing
to
identify
critical
to
quality
characteristics
that
are
expected
from
each
role
and
also
to
ask
the
people
the
emphasis
of
choosing
a
new
candidate
should
be
based
on
previous
experience
and
or
contribution
done
to
their
group.
So
an
seo
spo
representative
needs
to
have
been
an
spo,
and
you
know
dedicated
something
to
the
community
presented.
Something
been
active.
A
Each
functional
group
will
have
their
own
different
characteristics
based
on
what
they
need
to
do,
how
much
time
they
need
to
spend.
So
what
we've
done
is
created
sort
of
questions
for
each
person,
ideally
from
you
to
to
answer
this
will
clarify
a
lot
to
the
new
person
joining
for
example.
Why
was
this
role
created?
How
is
this
role
delivering
file?
What's
the
main
problem
that
you're
currently
solving?
A
So
this
is
in
terms
of
the
role
and
then
in
terms
of
the
process,
so
how
much
time
is
expected
from
this
candidate
to
fulfill
in
this
role?
What
is
the
most
difficult
task
of
this
role
and
why,
what's
the
most
rewarding,
which
other
stakeholders
do
they
interact
with
like
defining
what
you
have
been
doing
for
the
past
three
months
and
then
finally
insights?
What
insights
can
you
share
in
terms
of
challenges
that
this
road
is
currently
facing?
A
How
can
they
execute
better?
How
can
they
be
monitored
better?
So
if
each
of
you
sort
of
answer
this
based
on
your
own
group,
this
will
eventually
become
an
onboarding
kit,
an
onboarding
document
that
will
give
to
the
new
joiners
that
they
will
see
exactly
what
to
expect.
They
will
know
what
are
the
issues
that
they're
working
towards
or
how
many
meetings,
how
much
time
is
expected
from
them
the
level
of
knowledge
they
should
know
in
terms
of
tools
and
systems,
so
it
so
is
everyone
aligned?
A
B
Yes,
so
I'll
would
careful,
of
course
you
know
pushing
you
know
too
much.
You
know
what
they
have
to
do
and
what
what
the
procedure,
what
they
will
do
and
how
much
time
they
have
to
spend.
I
I
would
prefer
that
you
know
they're
looking
for
themselves
and
finding
some
interesting
ideas
and
you
know
not
are
put
in
some
kind
of
box,
but
some
kind
of
guidance.
B
A
100
doesn't
need
to
be
exact,
just
your
overall
sort
of
recommendations.
Thinking
that
this
person
that's
going
to
come,
replace
you
is
going
to
go
through
this.
What
sort
of
advice
and
insights
you
can
give
them
definitely
doesn't
need
to
be
specific,
like
you
need
to
spend
10
hours
every
week
or
something
like
that.
So
then,
myself
and
the
admin
team
can
work
on
identifying
the
critical
quality
characteristics
and
have
them
as
well
announce
them
when
we're
asking
for
a
nomination,
so
that
the
nominees
are
aware
of
this
as
they're
joining.
A
If
they
want
to
nominate
themselves
and
then
for
later
iterations,
we
discuss
the
possibility
of
once.
We
have
these
critical
to
quality
characteristics.
We
can
then
have
rating
based
systems,
so
the
ratings
will
be
done
based
on
these
characteristics,
and
you
could
have
maybe
someone
that's
strong
in
one
characteristic,
but
not
strong
in
the
other,
and
these
critical
characteristics
will
be
updated.
Each
circle
version
will
update
the
critical
to
quality
characteristics
for
the
new
person,
but
that's
something
for
the
later
stages.
A
So
then,
once
they've
presented,
we
provide
feedback
to
the
nominees
and
then
cast
the
vote
here.
We'll
need
to
agree
on
the
methodology
behind
this,
so
how
do
people
ask
those?
Is
it
through
a
google
form
or
what
other
mechanism
will
need
to
use
felix?
I
guess
we'll
discuss
this
if
we're
going
to
work
together
on
this
new
event.
Maybe
we'll
discuss
this
separately
unless
anyone
has
any
preferences
in
terms
of
how
they
want
the
voters
to
cast
votes
yep.
This.
C
Door
yeah,
I
guess
my
requirement
is
like
it's
like.
I
don't
care
as
much
about
a
specific
tool,
but
I
think
it
I
think
it
needs
something
that
doesn't
require
any
technical
proficiency
to
be
part
of
it
should
be
something
that
any
casual
person
can
intuitively
use.
You
know,
without
needing
to
you
know,
go
through
a
big
process
right
to
to
be
able
to
use
it.
A
Totally
makes
sense
perfect,
so
votes
are
casted
and
then
one
day
after
the
election,
we
present
the
winning
candidates,
along
with
other
voting
results.
We
can
also
share
some
statistics
in
terms
of
how
many
people
showed
up
how
many
people
voted,
etc
and
then
our
so
we
can
and
then
post
election
we
introduce
each
person
to
their
buddy.
So
in
this
case
we
agreed.
If,
if
you
guys
will
stay
as
mentors,
then
you
will
be
their
their
buddy.
A
They
can
go
to
you
for
questions
and
also
based
on
these
critical
to
quality
characteristics.
This
these
answers
that
that
you're,
going
to
going
to
give
us
myself
and
the
admin
team
will
work
on
an
onboarding
kit.
So
we'll
put
this
all
together
for
each
of
the
different
groups
and
we'll
hand
them
a
sort
of
document
for
them
to
come
in,
and
this
addresses
most
of
their
frequently
asked
questions
and
concerns
so
that
they
can
come
in
with
all
the
information
that
they
need.
A
E
Maybe
you
can
add
a
deep
plus
four
so
that
the
elected
people,
when
this
happens
on
a
saturday
that
elected
people
can
present
in
the
town
hall
one
week
later,
and
maybe
also
in
the
after
tunnel
that
that
their
groups,
their
communities
can
meet
them
already,
can
speak
to
them.
Yeah
when
it
makes
sense
to
everyone.
A
So
that
sounds
good,
we'll
add
a
new
row
with
d
plus
four
and
they
announce
themselves
in
the
in
the
tunnel.
That
makes
perfect
sense
yeah.
So
that's
the
election
process
that
we
were
thinking
of
I'll,
stop
there
and
ask
for
any
feedback
or
questions.
B
Devoting
the
questions
about
voting
will
be,
you
know,
we'll
be
voting
on
the
zoom
call,
or
it
will
be
something
you
know.
People
can
do
afterwards
as
well
and
or
how
it
will
be.
You
have
some
already
some
ideas.
C
I
would
recommend
like,
and
it's
all
very
documented
it
was
shared,
so
I
I
would
recommend,
rather
than
us,
like
figuring
it
out
again
and
looking
at
how
we
implemented
it
for
the
first
time,
and
maybe
you
know
and
trying
to
reuse
that
rather
than
like
inventing
some
something
new
that
maybe
has
other
some
sort
of
unidentified
loopholes,
because
because
that
process
with
has
been
actually
like,
we
actually
like,
sat
and
like
really
really
fought
hard
about
like
how
would
like
the
risk,
analysis
and
stuff.
So
that's
my
recommendation.
B
B
A
Perfect
makes
sense,
so
I
guess
other
than
that.
We're
all
aligned
on
the
process
next
step
here
is
to
define
a
date
for
this
session
felix
you
you'll,
probably
discuss
it
with
with
your
community
as
well,
and
maybe
you
and
I
can
work
towards
that.
A
Yeah
perfect
sounds
good,
so
great
steven
has
been
taking
a
lot
of
notes.
E
A
E
See
also
that
sometimes
it's
difficult
to
get
already
okay,
what
will
be
introduced
in
the
town
halls
from
update
from
cartel's
circle?
So
maybe
we
arrive
to
come
already
up
with
a
date
quite
fast.
Let's
say
in
the
following
days
that
we
can
announce
it
in
advance
already
in
the
town
hall
as
well,
because
there's
definitely
a
good
point
to
reach
out
to
the
community,
so
maybe
stephen
nuttin!
You
can
set
this
directly
already
on
the
list
to
cc
the
updates
next
hour.
A
Yeah,
so
are
you
saying
you
want
to
agree
on
a
date
now
felix.
B
A
good
yeah
so
because
you
know
there
are
groups
which
are
not
usually
on
town
hall,
so
therefore
we
need
to
reach
to
other
channels
and
yeah.
So
that's
why
it's
really
nice
to
have
the
data
as
soon
as
possible.
Of
course,
yeah.
A
Perfect,
we'll
we'll
do
so
so
with
that
I
mean
we're
done
with
the
main
points
that
we
wanted
to
discuss
for
today.
Last
point
is
to
go
through
action
items.
We
were
hoping
to
have
michael,
but
it
doesn't
seem
like
he
was
able
to
make
it
stephen.
Were
you
able
to
keep
track
of
the
action
items.
A
C
It's
because
this
is
the
election
part
is,
is
a
pretty
fairly
complex
operation.
It's
gonna.
Take
you
know,
it's
requires
a
lot
of
coordination
and
there's
like
a
bunch
of
deliverables
there.
C
I
think
at
least
we
should
have
come
out
of
here
with
like
a
clear
definition
of
who's.
The
point
person
who's
like
who's,
managing
the
who's,
the
project
manager.
A
Yeah,
please
go
ahead.
Felix
please
go
ahead,
but
you
can
use
me
as
your
sort
of
support.
That
would
be
great.
Please
go
ahead.
C
I
think
you
need.
We
need
to
there's
two
different
things
happening,
okay,
and
I
think
we
have
to
separate
concerns
right,
there's
like
an
event
and
then
there's
like
an
election
process.
Okay,
so
these
are
separate,
so
I'd
rather
have
like
kind
of
like
nadeem
like
supervising
the
overall,
like
production
and,
like
you
know,
and
and
then
felix
like
project
man,
you
know
felix
being
managing
the
event
just
to
keep
it.
You
know
just
to
keep
a
clear
separation.
It's
it's
like
you
know.
C
In
third
world
countries,
what
happens
when
that
happens
like
not,
that
felix
is
going
to
do
something,
but
I
think
it's
a
good
practice
to
to
to
adapt.
A
Perfect,
I
mean
I'll
work
I'll
be
working
very
closely
with
felix
anyway
I'll
get
this
support
throughout,
and
he
has
my
support
so
we'll
work
very
closely.
Yeah,
I'm
happy
to
to
do
so
in
close
collaboration
with
felix
sounds
good,
so
the
action
items
we'll
add
them
separately
and
share
it
with
with
everyone
and
with
that
there's
the
feedback
form
here.
Please
do
share
any
feedback
and
just
last
comments,
closing
notes.
Any
anyone
would
like
to
sort
of
close
off
with
anything.