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A
Hello,
everybody
ho
hi,
everybody,
sorry
for
being
a
bit
late.
We
have
our
green
room
is,
is
full
of
guests
today
and
I'm
just
just
just
I
don't
know
just
again:
it's
like
I'm
so
happy
to
to
do
these
town
halls,
and
I
really
I
really
appreciate
everybody
coming.
We
have
see
almost
500
people
going
up.
This
is
this
is
like
incredible.
I'm
just
very
I'm
amazed.
A
So,
let's,
let's
get
started
so
welcome
to
the
town
hall,
and
we
had
thousands
of
people
joining
us
this
week.
Maybe
for
most
of
you
this
is
the
first
time
learning
about
catalyst
or
or
joining
a
town
hall.
So
really
a
warm
welcome,
and
this
is
actually
our
second
like
so
every
fund.
We
have
this
like
series
of
town
halls.
This
is
like
our
our
second
week
and
in
the
first
week
I
really
went
you
know
I.
A
I
really
went
a
lot
about
to
explain
about
the
context
of
catalyst
and
what
we're
doing
and
why
it's
so
special
and
why
you
should
be
part
of
it,
but
especially,
I
talked
a
lot
about
the
challenges
that
that
we
have
for
for
fund
for
so,
if
you're,
this
is
new
to
you
like
check,
check
this
link
for
for
the
first
town
hall
and
and
listen
to
it.
I
think,
especially
the
parts
about
where
I
go
into
details
about
each
and
every
challenge.
A
I
think
that's
really
really
important,
and
I
want
to
welcome
you
to
the
experiment.
Things
can
break
things,
can
lack
documentation
and
they
can
differ
greatly
between
iterations
definitely
they're
going
to
get
you're
going
to
get
disoriented.
So
just
be
be
aware,
maybe
people
are
like
this
is
like
their
third
funding
ground.
You
know,
maybe
they're
less
disoriented,
maybe
they've
been
a
bit
bored,
I
don't
know
but
you're
going
to
get
disoriented
overloaded,
but
mostly
inspired
it's
going
to
be
worth
it.
A
A
This
week,
I
like
every
week
I
I
choose
some
some
wacky
photo
just
to
kind
of
like
kind
of
signifies
this.
This
theme
of
this
chicken-
and
actually
I
was
thinking
about
the
the
e
coli
okay,
the
e
coli
is
is
one
of
our
the
most
researched
bacteria.
A
It
usually
lives
in
in
a
poop
in
physical
matter.
You
can
get
a
nice
infection
if
you
consume
it
by
mistake,
it's
a
one
cellular
creature
and
what
it
does
is.
It
has
an
algorithm
where
it
explores
food,
it
forages
for
for
nutrients
and
and
it,
and
it
has
a
very,
very
precise
algorithm
that
guides
its
patterns
and
when
it's
in
a
place
where
there's
no
food,
it
grows
on
top
of
itself.
If
you
can
see
in
this
diagram,
it
grows
a
propeller,
so
it
it
builds
this
like
intricate
thing.
A
This
fl
flagella
thing
that
that
that
turns
really
fast
and
then
like
it.
It
like
takes
him
to
a
new
place
to
explore
more
food
and
then
once
he
finds
food,
he
he
tears
down.
A
He
like
breaks
down
again
that
that
propeller
into
it's
like
basic
components
that
you
know
and
and
and
you
know
and
then
builds
it
again
and
propels
itself
again.
So
why
am
I
talking
to
you
about
this?
This
wonderful
bacteria.
You
know
you
know
this.
Despite
you
know.
First
of
all,
life
isn't
incredible.
A
Second
of
all,
when
we
think
about
organizations,
we
think
about
them
in
terms
of
machines
and
we
think
about
them
as
hierarchical
contracts,
they're
very
predetermined
in
the
way
they
work,
but
if
not
how
life
works.
This
is
not
like
how
evolution
works.
This
is
not
how
biology
works
in
biology.
A
Things
evolve
and
change
in
surprising,
wonderful,
wonderful
ways
in
innovative
ways
that
that
just
cannot
be
done
in
a
mix
through
a
mechanical
perspective
and
we've
seen
in
the
last
two
weeks
how
the
our
group
of
community
advisors,
the
people
who
review
proposals
have
are
starting
to
build
their
own
propeller,
okay,
they're,
starting
to
figure
out.
How
are
we
going
to
evolve
our
decision-making
process
and
and
make
better
assessments,
and
so
we're
we're
witnessing
life?
A
Okay
from
our
organization,
our
our
the
catalyst
organization
is
displaying
properties
of
a
living
organism
versus
like
a
stagnant
mechanical
thing,
and
I
just
want
to.
I
want
to
celebrate
it
because
it's
a
monumental
shift
and
just
dying
to
know
where
it's
going
to
take
us,
and
I
think
the
big
question
is
like
what
are
we?
A
A
One
more
thing
is
one
of
the
most
important
things
for
us
is
encouraging
proposals,
new
proposals
or
proposers
to
join
the
system.
This
is
why
we
have
this
referral
incentive
that
that
we've
now
increased
the
four
times
so
fun
too.
It
was
like
for
fun.
So
if
you
find
this
week,
we
had
the
five
thousand
dollars
in
incentives.
Now
we
have
20
thousand
dollars
in
incentives.
A
It
is
all
for
referral
referrals.
So
it's
about
people
that
come
and
talk
to
you.
Okay,
talk
to
your
to
your
family,
to
your
colleagues,
to
your
friends
and
help
them
along
the
way
to
to
create
their
their
first
proposal
in
catalyst
and
and
acknowledging
the
value
you're
bringing
and
revoking
rewarding
you
to
doing
it,
because
it
has
this
like
really
top
strategic
importance.
A
So,
if
you've,
if
you've
had
that
opportunity-
and
you
came
to
a
proposer
and
like
like
in
some
someone
new
and
you
you
showed
him
catalyst
and
because
of
you
is-
is
making
a
proposal
make
sure
that
he's
in
the
submission
form
that
he
puts
your
email
and
a
description
of
how
he
was
referred
and
you
will
be
eligible
and
if
and
if
his
proposal
gets
gets
funded,
you
will
be
eligible
for
a
nice
nice,
nice
reward
because
of
because
of
the
value
you
brought
so
just
like
just
like
be
you
know,
just
be
honest
about
it.
A
You
know
not
don't
just
like
put
the
name
there
just
because
you
can
like
have
have
integrity.
But
besides
that
like
go
for
it,
we
we
really
value
this
contribution
all
right.
So
today
we
have.
A
Then
we're
gonna
go
into
details
about
proposing.
How
do
you
propose?
What's
the
how
you
know
like
everything
you
need
to
know,
if
you're
a
proposer
and
want
to
submit
a
proposal
in
catalyst,
then
that
would
be
like
you
know,
like
the
official
end
of
the
town
hall,
and
then
we
would
there's
a
bonus
and
we're
going
to
have
a
workshop.
A
That's
about
setting
challenges.
So
this
is
one
of
the.
So
it's
not
about
making
regular
proposals.
It's
about
proposing
new
challenges
for
catalyst
specifically
for
fund
six,
so
I'm
gonna
walk.
You
know
we're
gonna
work,
I'm
going
to
work
together
with
you
and
look
at
drafts
together,
it's
going
to
be
fun
and
there's
also
going
to
be
in
parallel.
A
There's
a
conversation
with
robbie
just
because
of
his
being
the
ceo
over
this
skate,
it's
a
wonderful
opportunity
for
us
to
to
talk
with
him
and
and
more
about
getting
into
the
woods
about
identical
and
specific
features
and
ways
to
improve
and
ways
to
collaborate
etc.
So,
saying
all
this
you
know
I
want
to
invite.
A
I
want
to
invite
rob
rob
on
stage,
maybe
one
one
thing
before
he
begins
is
I
just
want
to.
I
just
want
to
say
that
that
rob's,
a
pioneer
is
a
true
pioneer
in
the
term
in
in
collective
intelligence,
in
the
field
of
crowdsourcing,
I'm
not
sure
specifically
about
the
dates
but
years
ago.
A
Something
like
that
detail
10
years
ago,
talking
about
this
stuff
was
like
talking
like,
like
like
explaining
like
talking
to
people
in
an
alien
language
like
it,
was
incredibly
difficult
to
to
get
people
to
to
buy,
to
buy
into
this.
A
It
is
because,
because
a
lot
of
the
features
in
the
back
end
about
because
of
its
customer,
because
it's
so
customizable,
because
it
gives
us
real
ground
for
experimentation
and
rapid
iteration
to
define
our
process
and
that's
what
makes
it
unique
for
me
like
for
my
specific
use
case
and
and
that's
it
for
I'm
just
telling
you
lots
of
lots
of
love.
B
Can
you
hear
me,
okay,
awesome,
I
hope
so.
Okay,
let
me
see
if
I
can
share
screen
here
door.
I
I
am
humbled.
I
I
I
would
say
the
same
things
about
you
guys.
I
mean
this
learning.
Everything
about
catalyst
so
far
has
completely
blown
my
mind
and
the
community
has
been
just
incredible.
B
B
I
am
hoping
you
guys
can
see
my
screen.
Okay,
I
I
don't
get
it,
I'm
not
getting
any
feedback.
Maybe
anastasia
could
let
me
know
or
or
door
we're
hearing.
A
B
Oh
yeah,
okay,
great
perfect.
I
can
handle
that
great
awesome,
guys
so
great
to
meet
everyone.
I
am
so
excited
to
be
here.
Tell
you
a
little
bit
about
idea,
scale
I'll,
try
to
be
quick.
I
know
these
town
halls
can
be,
can
be
long
but
again,
very
humbled
by
the
introduction.
Thank
you
so
much
dorr
again,
just
this
whole
journey
has
totally
blown
my
mind.
It's
been
it's
been
fantastic,
but
let
me
let
me
get
right
into
it
quickly
about
myself.
B
So
out
of
college,
I
had
a
computer
science
degree
and
I
thought
well
maybe
I'm
kind
of
interested
in
finance.
I'm
gonna
go
work
at
a
bank,
washington,
mutual
bank
and
try
that
out
and
see
how
it
goes,
and
I
worked
there
for
a
while,
and
I
learned
honestly
a
lot
of
really
cool
stuff.
B
That's
where
I
kind
of
learned
java
and
got
got
pretty
good
at
java,
I'm
not
like
the
best
developer
to
be
honest,
but
I
was
a
java
developer
in
college
and
this
seemed
like
a
good
fit
for
me
learned
a
lot
about
building
enterprise
web
applications
for
for
large-scale
applications
internally,
but
I
I
started,
get
this
kind
of
nagging
feeling,
and
I'm
sure
everyone
has
probably
felt
this
at
their
job
in
the
past,
where
an
idea
that
was
kind
of
brought
to
the
table
was
kind
of
shut
down
or
or
filtered
by
management
and
management,
generally
being
at
least
where
I
worked
at
this
big
bank
senior
management.
B
B
That
was
mostly
decided
on
by
you
know
the
hippo
concept,
highest
paid
person's
opinion
or
how
long
they've
been
with
the
company
instead
of
just
on
the
idea
on
its
own,
and
it
really
just
started
to
nag
at
me-
and
you
know
it's
almost
like
a
it's
almost
like
a
mind
virus.
It's
like
really
bothering
me
more
and
more
all
the
time
and
I
got
really
lucky.
B
I
have
to
say
I
had
a
friend
who
introduced
me
to
this
world
of
startups,
and
specifically,
he
had
a
survey
software
company
that
he
was
actually
running
out
of
his
garage
and
we
had
basically
gone
and
bought
kind
of,
like
junky
computer,
desktop
computers
from
like
fry's,
electronics
and
walmart,
and
set
up
a
data
center
in
his
garage
with
like
our
own
t1
line
and
a
generator
and
the
whole
thing,
and
we
actually
did
that,
while
we
were,
we
were
working
at
the
bank,
so
the
bank
was
in
a
way
kind
of
like
an
incubator.
B
For
us,
we
eventually
quit
our
jobs
and
we
started
doing
this
online
survey.
Software
company
called
question
pro
and
you
might
have
heard
of
it
kind
of
like
a
competitor
to
survey,
monkey
and
and
qualtrics
and
and
those
guys,
the
other
inspiration
that
was
really
interesting
is
when
we,
when
we,
we
had
a
lot
of
customers
that
would
have
open-ended
text
questions
in
their
surveys
and
they
came
to
us
and
asked
like
well.
How
do
we?
How
do
we
quantify
this
open-ended
text
now?
B
Obviously,
we
could
do
some
data
analysis
around
that,
but
we
pitched
them
this
idea
of
saying
well
what
if
we
made
the
responses
from
a
survey,
the
the
comment
responses
public-
and
this
was
actually
pretty
big
deal
at
times.
You
can
imagine
and
let
people
vote
on
how
they
feel
about
other
people's
responses
and,
at
the
same
time
dig
and
reddit
was,
was
becoming
really
popular.
B
Then
this
was
about
15
years
ago
or
so,
and
we
came
up
with
this
idea
of
saying
all
right:
let's
do
a
startup
where
people
can
create
these
idea,
communities
inside
their
organization
and
try
to
like
skip
over
these,
these
deep
kind
of
management
hierarchies,
so
ideas
can
get
more
attention,
and
that
was
the
the
genesis
of
idea
scale
today
we're
sas
software
company
we're
bootstrapped,
so
we're
a
little
bit
unique
in
in
in
the
bay
area.
B
By
the
way
I
forgot
to
do
my
opening
line
greetings
from
berkeley
by
the
way,
berkeley,
california,
so
we're
based
in
berkeley
and
we
are
bootstrapped
and
profitable-
and
you
know
bootstrapped
is
it's
kind
of
rare.
You
know,
obviously,
for
a
software
company,
but
we
just
found
that
you
know
working
directly
with
our
customers
and
asking
for
money
directly
from
them.
B
B
We
made
the
decision
2019,
we
went
fully
carbon
neutral
and
that
was
just
basically
a
completely
employee-led
decision
which
I'm
really
proud
of,
and
we
also
actually
wrote
a
playbook
for
other
software
companies
and
startups
to
do
this
themselves
and
we
haven't
made
this
public
yet,
but
almost
just
over
half
of
our
competitors
have
actually
been
using
that
playbook
and
will
be
carbon
neutral
in
2021,
so
very
excited
about
that.
Our
early
start,
I
would
say,
like
our
first
big
customer,
that
frankly,
like
kind
of
scared,
us
was
the
obama
administration.
B
Companies
were
way
ahead
of
of
the
federal
government
and
the
gsa,
which
is
essentially
like
the
government's
I.t
department,
realized
that
a
lot
of
the
terms
of
service-
in
other
words,
the
legal
terms
of
service,
that
no
one
reads
they
just
scroll
through,
wouldn't
really
work
for
federal
agencies,
and
so
they
actually
went
around
every
single
startup
at
the
time
that
they
could
find
and
wrote
a
streamlined
terms
of
service.
And
again,
I
know
it's
like
kind
of
silly
and
maybe
like
innocuous,
but
that
totally
opened
up
this
flood.
B
Gate
of
you
know:
participation,
collaboration
between
constituents,
employees
and
federal
agencies,
and
it
was
just
it
was
so
exciting.
It
was
awesome.
So
our
early
win
was
that
we
basically
built
these
idea
communities
for
all
the
major
federal
agencies
in
the
u.s
federal
government,
and
we
worked
with
obama's
tech
team.
To
do
that,
and-
and
to
be
perfectly
honest,
it
was
really
hard.
B
It
was
a
ton
of
work
and
it
was
pretty
scary
at
the
time,
but
it
it
was
probably
like
one
of
the
best
experiences
of
my
life
and
I'm
I'm
really
grateful
to
have
that
experience.
It
was
super
fun
working
with
them.
So
now,
actually
we
work
with
state
and
local
governments
also
worldwide
we're
not
actually
just
a
u.s
company.
B
B
Our
idea
is
to
create
like
fully
democratic
idea
communities.
So
you
know
the
experience
that
you
have
I
like
to
it
started
as
a
joke,
and
now
I
use
it
actually
in
my
talking
points
is
you
know
that
experience
you
have
when
you're
with
friends
and
you
don't
have
any
paper
and
you
write
down
an
idea
on
a
cocktail
napkin
and
and
and
you
save
it
and
you're
like
this,
this
and
you're
holding
it
in
your
hand,
and
it
just
there's
an
emotion
to
that
that
I
think
is
lost.
B
Sometimes
when
we,
when
we
go
to
work,
you
know
at
work,
you're,
just
heads
down
you're,
just
like
pushing
mouse
doing
tasks,
but
when
you're
with
friends
and
you're
talking
about
ideas,
it's
magical
and
we're
just
trying
to
see.
If
we
can
bring
that
kind
of
magic
into
an
idea
community,
I
I'm
a
user
of
reddit.
I
I
used
to
love,
dig
back
in
the
day,
but
reddit
those
sub
communities.
B
To
me,
those
subreddits
are
really
special
and
I
think
there's
a
lot
to
learn
from
that
that
we
could
we
could
we
could
bring
into
ideascale.
So
obviously
like
I,
I
love
catalyst.
I'm
like
such
a
huge
fan
of
catalyst-
I
it's
it's.
I
was
actually
just
telling
dora
like
when
I
first
met
door
and
and
and
heard
about
the
project.
It
was
like
there's
just
so
much
to
learn
and
I
think
one
of
the
things
that's
really
interesting
about
my
journey
as
I
learn
about
cardano.
B
Is
that
we're
all
kind
of
at
different
kind
of
stages
in
our
understanding
and
it
does.
It
does
take
a
little
bit
of
time
to
to
get
calibrated
and
understand
what
is
this
all
about,
and
what
does
it
mean,
and
so
you
know
myself
and
and
everybody
at
day
scale.
We've
been
kind
of
drinking
from
the
fire
hose
here
learning
as
much
as
we
possibly
can
about
catalyst
and
about
cardano
and
it's
it's,
it's
been
really
fun.
B
So
again,
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
to
the
whole
community
for
being
so
welcoming,
and
you
guys
have
have
laid
just
an
incredible
trail
of
of
learning
and
education,
so
he
here's
the
other
thing
that
that
we
kind
of
noticed
about
working
with
catalyst.
You
know
dory,
you
mentioned
it
like
it.
It's
it's.
It's
challenging
to
convince
some
of
these
large
large
organizations
that
you
know
working
together
is
better
like,
like
you
know,
it
might
be
hard,
but
it's
you
know,
working
together
is
a
feature.
B
It's
not
a
bug
and
so
we're
out
on
the
front
lines
trying
to
convince
these
large
organizations
that
have
these
deep,
structured
hierarchies
that
are
using
hippos
to
make
decisions
that
like
no
there's
a
better
way
and
when
we
come
to
catalyst,
it's
like
we
don't
need
to
do
any
convincing.
B
You
guys
are
way
ahead
and,
as
a
matter
of
fact,
we
are
here
to
learn
from
you
guys
actually-
and
I
think
that's
probably
the
biggest
takeaway
I
can
say
is
that
this
is
a
partnership
and
we
are,
we
are
all
in.
We
are
loving
it.
A
few
other
things
is
door,
challenged
me
to
this,
and
I
think
it's
a
good
one.
We
want
to
experience
the
the
fun
for
process
and
submit
our
own
proposal.
B
I
know
that's,
that's
so
meta
right,
like
we're
submitting
a
proposal
for
idea
scale
on
our
platform,
but
we
really
want
to
go
through
that
process
ourselves
and
see
our
you
know.
Kind
of
dog
food
it
and
see
what
we
can
learn.
So
we're
really
excited
about
that.
Also
I.
I
should
share
this
story
because
it's
it's
it's
pretty
funny.
When
I
first
heard
about
this
opportunity,
one
of
my
sales
reps
came
to
me
and
said:
hey,
there's,
there's
this
project
catalyst.
B
They
want
to
work
with
idea
scale
but
there's
a
problem.
I
was
like
well,
what's
the
problem
and
he
said
well,
our
cfo,
our
accountant
and
our
general
counsel
says
that
we
can't
accept
ada.
We
can
only
accept
u.s
currency
and
I
I
said
to
him.
I
said
I'm
so
glad
you
came
to
me
because
we
should
totally
do
this.
This
is
an
awesome
opportunity.
B
We
we
should
definitely
do
it
so
yeah.
I
mean
basically
idea
scale
accepted
payment
in
ada,
which
was
really
fun
and
exciting
to
learn
and
we're,
of
course,
holding
on
to
it
and
staking
it
and
all
that
fun
stuff.
So
we
we
went
through
that
whole
process
and
it
was
very
cool,
we're
also
starting
our
own
stake,
pool
which
we're
really
excited
about.
So
I'm
in
the
middle
of
learning
about
that,
and
we
we're
in
california.
B
So
of
course
we
want
it
to
be
solar-powered,
so
we
we
added
that
extra
challenge,
so
that
should
be
pretty
fun
and
again
the
community
is
incredible.
B
I
joined
a
telegram
group,
that's
been
helping
me
get
that
set
up
and
it's
just
been
just
been
really
awesome
really
interesting,
so
I
I
hope
to
come
back
and
and
continue
to
share
upcoming
features
if
I
may,
but
I
just
wanted
to
share
a
couple,
quick
ones
that
that
we
thought
would
probably
be
relevant
to
the
catalyst
project,
but
again
we're
also
here
to
get
feedback.
B
Oh
and
I
forgot
to
mention
I
I
did
manage
to
sync
up
and
get
some
of
the
feedback
from
the
the
cas
already
and
we
brought
that
to
our
product
team
to
to
to
review
as
well.
So
I
just
want
to
say
thank
you
so
much
for
that
as
well.
So,
what's
out
now,
I'm
not
sure
how
much
you
guys
are
using
this
yet,
but
we
worked
pretty
hard
on
having
custom
labels
again
some
of
these
things.
B
It
might
not
seem
like
that.
Big
of
a
deal
but
to
to
a
lot
of
our
audience,
these
things
are
really
valuable,
so
we
came
up
with
a
simple
and
flexible
way
to
create
essentially
labels
on
ideas
or
proposals.
In
your
case,
you
know,
obviously
we
have
standard
labels.
Like
you
know,
this
is
private,
or
this
is
already
implemented
or
something
like
that.
But
you
can
also
create
custom
labels
and
add
various
statuses
and
things
to
those
proposals,
so
you
can
communicate
to
the
to
the
community.
B
What's
going
on
with
the
proposal
and
it's
very
flexible,
you
can
set
it
up
any
way
you
want.
If
you
need
help
with
that,
we
can
do
that.
Another
big
one,
which
I
know
you
guys,
are
really
big
on
assessments
we're
adding
some
configuration.
So
you
can
kind
of
explain
in
better
detail
what
the
the
ratings
actually
mean
on
on
your
assessments
and
also
we
got
some
great
feedback
on
anonymity
and
adding
some
additional
options
there.
B
So
you
can,
you
can
hide
identity
in
the
various
assessment
steps,
real,
quick,
also
on
kudos.
We
got
some
inspiration
from
a
couple
different
platforms.
Actually
internally.
We
we
actually
give
tacos
to
each
other
like
virtual
tacos,
and
it's
very
popular-
and
you
know,
if
you
think
about
on
reddit,
there's
there's
a
similar
thing
called
reddit
gold.
We
came
up
with
this
idea
of
kudos,
which
you
guys
have
been
using
quite
a
bit.
B
Actually
we're
really
excited
to
see
people
leverage
that
platform,
but
the
inspiration
for
that.
The
background
was
that
we
said
like
okay
people,
a
lot
of
our
communities.
People
are
voting
on
ideas
in
the
platform.
I
know
you
guys
are
doing
a
little
bit
different,
but
you
know
after
people
vote
they
want
to
give
an
additional
kind
of.
B
Thank
you
to
the
person,
and
this
is
kind
of
obviously
a
fun
way
to
do
it,
and
what
we're
looking
to
do
in
our
next
version
is
to
do
specific
types
of
of
essentially
a
kudo.
So
what
we're
looking
to
do
is
allow
catalysts
to
maybe
like
up
up
update
their
sorry
to
use
their
own
custom
emoji
and
have
specific
rules
and
parameters
around
giving
those
kudos.
So,
for
example,
you
know,
maybe
someone
is
a
a
ca
and
they
can
give.
B
You
know
five
pizzas,
whereas
a
regular
community
member
can
give
like
one
pizza-
something
like
that.
So
we're
really
excited
about
that
and
we
plan
to
reach
out
to
you
guys
to
get
some
feedback
on
that
feature
as
well.
B
B
We
can
meet
and
talk
further
and
get
some
additional
ideas
from
you
guys
and
get
some
feedback
or
or
just
chat
about
startups
and
idea,
scale
and
catalyst,
I'm
totally
open
to
that
and
and
continue
to
learn,
I'm
not
sure
how
the
link
will
be
shared,
but
I
think
I
think
I
think
the
moderator
will
figure
that
out,
but
thank
you
guys
it's
it's
so
great
to
meet
you
all
and
I'm
looking
forward
to
doing
this
again
see.
Does
that
work
there.
We.
A
Go
yay,
hooray,
hi!
Thank
you.
So
much
of
course,
that
was
great.
I'm
really
I'm
I'm.
I
think.
I
think
that
with
this
community
is
creativity
and
ingenuity.
We're
gonna
find
some
really
cool
patterns
of
kudos,
like
really
cool
settings
for
kudos.
That
could
really
fit
specific
things.
We
that
we
value
and-
and
we
want
to,
we
want
to
celebrate,
and
I
think
I
think
there
was
like
a
lot
like
for
us.
A
We,
we
initially
started
to
adopt
the
kudos,
and
then
we
had
this
like
problem
that
it
could
be
gamed
in
certain
ways
and
I
think,
with
kudos
version
two,
we
can
actually
defend
a
lot
a
lot,
a
lot
versus
a
lot
of
ways
of
gaming,
like,
for
example,
that
only
veteran
participants
can
give
a
certain
type
of
kudos
and
like
they
have
a
bit
more
trust
in
that
type
anyway,.
A
Thank
you
so
much,
and
I
think
everybody
here
that
has
you
know,
want
to
talk
to
wanna
talk
to
rob
on.
Have
some
feedback
go
to
the
zoom
link
at
the
end
of
the
town
hall?
Rob
will
be
there
to
talk
with
you
all
so
enjoy.
A
Daniel
and
duane
will
make
their
presentation
we'll
invite
them
soon,
but
I
just
wanna,
I
just
wanna,
look
at
the
reporting
by
by
fantu
participants,
so
they've
been
they've,
been
sending
out
some
actually
kudos
virtual
kudos
for
people
who
are
or
helping
them,
and
so
I
want
to
thank
gildor,
jeremy,
firster,
tevo,
mablock,
steve,
juan
faru
kyle,
all
kyles,
ocg
ja,
azez,
josh,
okay,
scallion
would
be
juan
and
friends,
ocg,
again
kyle
sandro
javier
and
roberto
for
coming
and
and
and
working
and
collaborating
and
unblocking
the
funded
proposals
in
fan
too.
A
A
Secondly,
we
can
see
really
nice
advancements
in
terms
of
of
metrics
from
fun
to
like
so
the
fun
to
proposers
work
together
to
solve
the
challenge.
Did
our
efforts
manage
to
like,
like
we're
asking
as
determining
our
roi
if
we
actually
managed
to
attract
developers
and
entrepreneurs
thanks
to
their
to
their
collective
efforts,
and
we
can
see
that
we're
making
nice
there's
like
one
one
dap
on
a
test
net?
A
A
So
that's
really
exciting
and
you
know
behind
the
numbers
there
there's
people
there's
there
there's
process
and,
and
there
there's
innovation
that
usually
we
you
know
so
far.
Maybe
some
of
you
haven't
get
to
see
firsthand,
so
I
do
want
to
invite
maybe
starting
with
danielle,
to
talk
about
about
what
is
what
his
team
is.
Building.
A
A
C
Yeah,
so
thanks
for
having
me
on
so
my
name
is
dwayne
cameron.
I'm
the
founder
of
liquid.
Our
team
is
building
an
open
source
liquidity
protocol
on
cardano.
C
We
want
to
enable
peer
to
pool
lending,
essentially
on
top
of
cardano's
blockchain
right
now,
we're
in
the
process
of
building
out
a
set
of
contracts
that
will
go,
live
on
the
kebm
sidechain,
we're
about
halfway,
complete
with
that
right
now,
aiming
for
the
end
of
march
to
complete
that
and
enter
some
audits
and
really
open
up
that
code
base
for
for
testers
to
use,
but
essentially
what
that
will
do
once
it
goes
live
on.
C
The
kevm
sidechain
is
enable
anyone
to
supply
cardano
ada
to
the
supply
contracts
in
our
system,
mint
the
derivative
interest
bearing
q
token
in
our
system
for
the
cardano
market,
it'll
be
q,
eta
and
then
use
that
to
enter
our
yield.
Farming
staking
contract
to
basically
yield
our
governance
token,
which
is
liquid
lq.
C
There's
some
dependencies
in
terms
of
when
the
side
chain
is
ready
when
we
complete
our
audits
and
things
like
that,
but
we
really
are
aiming
to
have
beta
testers
in
as
soon
as
possible,
so
like
at
a
high
level.
This
is
our
product
roadmap
and
this
is
kind
of
what
we're
building
the
green
at
the
kind
of
top
layers
is
what
we've
pretty
much
completed
already,
as
well
as
like
a
lot
of
the
front,
end
and
kind
of
back
end
setup
for
our
system.
C
But
in
terms
of
like
where
our
core,
you
know,
development
bandwidth
is
being
spent
right.
Now,
it's
really
in
the
smart
contract,
the
api
layer
and
all
the
sdks
and
things
that
come
along
with
that
we've,
like
I
said,
pretty
much
halfway
complete
with.
C
Like
our
solidity,
you
know
kevm
ready
to
go
code
base
whenever
that's
you
know
complete
at
the
end
of
march,
and
the
side
chain
is
ready,
we'll
launch
that
and
deploy
the
yield
farming
and
the
the
minting
ability,
but
the
actual
pluto
smart
contracts
is
really
the
next
level
and
that's
where
our
official
launch
will
take
place.
C
The
entire
system
so
enabling
borrowing
in
our
system
won't
take
place
until
we
get
to
plutus
and
we're
working
on
that
we've.
As
of
you
know,
today,
hired
a
team
of
haskell
developers
that
are
going
to
work
with
our
team
to
basically
build
out
the
entire
set
of
solidity
contracts
that
we
have
into
plutus.
You
know
in
in
using
complete
haskell
template,
haskell
on
chain
haskell
off
chain
code
and
we're
working
with
these
development
companies
like
tweek
fire,
labs
and
mlabs,
to
basically
bring
this
entire
protocol
to
life
our
team.
C
You
know
we
release
articles
and
we
kind
of
explain
how
the
protocol
will
work
and
things
like
our
intro
articles.
You
can
check
these
out
medium
to
see
what
liquidity
provider
incentives
actually
mean
in
our
system.
How
we're
going
to
you
know,
roll
that
out
on
cardano,
here's
our
website
and
a
link
to
our
upcoming
proposal
and
idea
scale,
which
is
really
just
a
continuation
of
the
efforts
for
developing
liquid
and
just
rolling
out
the
v1
of
the
protocol.
A
Awesome
well
done.
I'm
really
excited
to
see
how
how
this
project
evolves.
Okay,
how
are
we
doing
with
getting
danielle
beam,
daniel.
A
D
D
Yeah,
thank
you
dory.
Thank
you
so
much
for
giving
me
a
little
bit
of
time
to
talk
only
on
this
town
hall.
It's
really
feels
really
great
and
well.
It
feels
great
to
be
in
the
catalyst
project
in
general.
So
let
me
try
to
share
my
screen
and
I
want
to.
D
Okay
sounds
cool,
so
I'm
from
the
proposal
that
was
named
cardano
for
mobile
dev
developers
and
this
proposal
actually
comes
from
a
company
named
tesseract
and
I'm
ceo
in
the
in
tesseract,
and
what
we
are
doing
in
general
in
tesseract
is
a
protocol
that
allows
to
connect
depths
to
wallets
and
to
interact,
but
before
digging
into
the
details,
let
me
just
show
you
a
video
that
I
hope
can
explain
a
little
bit
more.
D
D
I
think
I
should
explain
that
a
critical
part
here
for
the
security
reasons
that
probably
no
one
wants
to
give
a
private
key
to
every
decentralized
application
he's
using
and
just
to
keep
the
private
keys
safe
inside
the
wallet,
but
the
the
apps
work
that
way
that
they
really
need
the
private
keys
to
sign
the
transactions
if
that
that
post
the
transaction.
D
So
we
are
working
on
a
protocol
that
can
connect
the
dabs
to
the
wallets
and
allow
these
things
to
happen,
and
actually
what
I
just
showed
you
as
a
video
is
an
actually
recorded
demo
of
the
application
that
already
works
and
works
in
tesseract
protocol.
D
First
of
all,
some
goals
that
we
have
set
for
us
and
that
we
don't
want
to
compromise
on.
As
I
mentioned,
it's
security,
so
the
protocol
and
the
apps
have
to
be
safe
and
thus
don't
have
a
direct
access
to
the
private
key.
Also,
we
don't
use
any
servers
or
no
centralized
software.
Nothing
like
that,
and
if
the
dev
connects
to
the
wallet
it's
either
on
the
same
device
or
between
devices
in
a
decentralized
manner.
D
That
gives
the
direct
connection
from
one
to
another,
and
there
is
no
man
in
the
middle
and
of
course,
it
has
to
be
friendly
as
a
as
I
showed
in
the
video
what
we
were
aiming
to
achieve.
First
of
all,
we
took
the
mobile,
as
you
know,
as
a
starting
point
and
mobile
first
approach.
D
So
when
you
use
adapt,
you
don't
wanna
any
hassle
with
the
confirmation
of
the
transaction
and
it
should
feel
like
you're
still
inside
the
depth.
Even
though
the
screen
preser
presented
from
the
wallet
with
the
transaction
confirmation
technically
inside
a
different
application,
it
should
still
feel
like
on
the
same
page,
and
this
is
well,
do
it
switch
next.
Just
a
second.
D
I'll
do
a
little
cheat
okay,
so
these
are
the
goals
we
have
set
to
bring
it
all
to
cardano.
D
D
We
have
started
to
work
on
cardano
and
the
cardano
sdk
for
ios
in
sweet
is
what
we
are
actually
working
right
now,
and
this
is
the
very
basic
plan
for
the
nearest
year
or
a
bit
more
that
we
are
going
to
do
so
with
desurect
is
the
care
we're
done
right
now
we're
working
on
cardano
sdk,
and
this
was
the
purpose
of
the
original
proposal
cardano
for
mobile
developers
to
create
this
cordano
is
decaying
sweep.
D
Well
before
I
jump
to
that,
I
want
to
tell
that
even
before
the
integration
starts,
the
cardano
is
decay
is
already
usable
by
developers
who
want
to
create
the
dapps
in
using
cardano,
but
there
will
be
no
integration
with
the
wallets
and
the
dapps
will
have
to
invent
how
to
handle
the
private
keys,
basically
how
it's
usually
done
these
days
with
the
native
mobile
dabs.
D
So
till
the
end
of
this
year.
We
plan
to
do
the
integration.
The
integration
means
on
the
sdk
level
and
the
integration
means
on
the
wallet
support
level.
Either
it
will
be
our
reference
wallet
implementation
or
we
will
be
integrating
with
any
other
cardano
capable
mobile
wallet.
We
don't
know
yet,
but
we'll
figure
it
out.
D
What's
going
to
be
best
for
the
community
and
after
that,
of
course,
if
everything
is
well
accepted
by
the
community
and
we
will
get
start
getting
the
depths
using
that,
we
will
be
approaching
more
platforms,
more
languages
right
now,
we're
focusing
on
swift
and
ios.
And
after
that
we
are
thinking
android.
Of
course,
first
of
all
and
javascript
applications
like
the
native
stuff
used,
while
developed
with
javascript,
which
is
pretty
popular
these
days
so
and,
of
course,
mobile
web.
D
So
a
bit
of,
let
me
bring
you
a
little
bit
of
the
details
about
the
cardano
sdk,
specifically.
A
Just
just
just
knowing
the
time
like
try
to
try
to
take
like,
like,
let's
say,
a
minute,
to
wrap
up.
A
Yeah,
thank
you.
Take
taking
us
a
minute.
You
know
you
can
also
tell
us
how
to
talk
with
you
more
like
for
people
who
want
to
learn.
D
Even
more
so
will
just
two
minutes.
Actually
there
is
not
much
left.
D
So
yeah
so
a
little
bit
of
report
on
the
progress
done
so
far
and
what's
the
plan
is
specifically
with
the
cardano
sdk.
D
We
already
have
finished
the
first
step
with
the
which
is
the
core
architecture,
and
we
started.
We
already
created
the
rebel
with
the
importing
all
the
rust
related
stuff
developed
by
murgle
and
started
to
wrap
this
core,
and
you
can
see
the
dates.
I
don't
want
to
waste
time
on
that
and
actually
there
is
more
detail
that
there
are
more
details
in
the
original
proposals
proposal
in
the
idea
scale.
D
If
anyone
wants
to
check
the
code
can
get
to
our
github
and
just
before
I
finish,
I
want
to
share
the
well
the
bigger
picture
that
eventually
we
want
to
be
to
get
this
not
like
for
just
mobile
developers
but
for
any
kind
of
cardano
developers
who
create
the
decentralized
applications
and
the
fact
that
we
just
start
from
the
phone
doesn't
mean
it's
not
scalable
further
and
we
have
technologies
that
are
capable
to
communicate
between
the
devices
like
you
can
run
your
dap
on
the
laptop
and
confirm
transactions
on
the
phone
or
any
other
screen,
and
it
doesn't
matter
which
screen
as
long
as
it
doesn't
have
the
access
to
private
key
and
you
confirm
transactions
on
the
phone.
D
It
still
is
safe,
think
atm
even
or
something-
and
this
is
our
bigger
goal.
This
is
where
we
aim,
by
still
keeping
it
safe,
decentralized
and
friendly
and
just
to
keep
it
short
well,
thank
you
and
I
think
door
was
it
a
minute
or
more.
A
But
in
the
end
you
can
see
what
comes
out
of
that
process
and
thank
you,
for
you
know
kind
of
like
giving
us
a
window
into
that,
and-
and
I
just
want
to
say
that
so
those
who
are
those
who
win
font
like
like,
like
fans,
three
and
found
four
proposers,
are
actually
going
to
join
the
cohort
alongside
the
daniel
and
duane,
and
you
know-
and
we
have
a
little
group
going
where
we
give
each
other
feedback
and
we
support
each
other
and,
and
you
know,
unlock
future
collaborations
and
just
generate
this
beautiful
network
effect.
A
It's
like
we
have.
We
have
so
much
more
content
to
share
it's
like
this
hour,
just
like
passed
by
so
fast.
So
I
kind
of
try
to
speed
through
the
rest
of
the
slides
and
we're
definitely
going
to
be
a
bit
over
time,
but
celebi.
A
All
right,
how
are
we
with
adoption?
So
just
like
looking
at
the
week
that
was
okay,
we're
almost
getting
to
ten
thousand
members
on
id
scale.
A
They
we
have
currently
registered.
We
have
one
and
a
half
billion
ada
a
registered
to
vote.
This
is
a
incredible
achievement.
A
A
A
If,
if
you
come
to
all
the
different
channels
that
is
being
broadcasted
to
live,
so
things
are
going
well
on
the
right
hand,
side
you
see
like
the
kind
of
target
numbers
where
we
want
to
be
to
reach
for
2021,
so
we're
we're
well
well
we're
underway,
and
the
big
celebration
is
that
this
week
it's
been
it's
it's
it's
the
numbers
don't
lie.
A
A
A
A
This
is
the
snapshot
date
third
of
march
7
pm
utc.
We're
probably
gonna
try
to
do
some
kind
of
a
cool
live
show
during
the
snapshot,
so
so
people
who,
with
hardware
wallets
who
want
to
you,
know
just
like
transfer
the
funds
for
that
particular
time
frame.
You
know
we
can
do
it
together
and
below
it's
like
links
of
how
to
register
to
vote
in
dedulus
uroi
and,
if
you're,
an
sbo
all
right.
A
I
I'd
love
to
celebrate
it
more,
but
we
have
so
much
more
to
go
through
okay,
so
we
had
a
beautiful
sharing
ground.
We
started
the
first
week
of
font,
four
just
asking
people
to
share
insights
about
the
challenges.
You
know,
quick,
quick
ideas
about
gaps
that
they've
identified
questions,
insights
they
had
and
and
the
main
experiment
we
did
is.
Is
we
had
this
developer
ecosystem
challenge,
where
we
asked
people
to
identify
gaps
and
actually
the
gaps
they
identified
are
going
to
be
part
of
the
challenge
goal.
A
So
we're
going
to
look
at
the
we're
going
to
take
a
list
of
all
the
gaps
mentioned
there
and
we're
going
to
check
at
the
end
of
the
challenge.
If
actually,
the
proposals
address
those
those
gaps,
and
so
I
mean
I
can't
even
have
time
to
get
into
it
all.
I
have
to
say
it's
like
beautiful,
beautiful
work.
It
was
for
the
both
for
this.
This
challenge
and
all
other
challenges
they're.
Just
like
full
of
amazing
insights.
A
I
really
encourage
you
all.
Just
like
go
go
to
adisk.
Look
at
all
the
perspectives.
People
are
sharing
if
you're
a
proposer.
It's
almost
like
you
must
read,
because
it's
going
to
inspire
you
in
your
proposal
to
to
see
what
people
are
like
just
to
see
everybody's
perspective
about
it
on
the
side
panel
of
every
challenge.
You
know,
there's
like
this.
This,
like
little
gray
box,
called
inside
sharing,
that's
gonna,
so
all
these
insights
will
be
put
in
reserve,
so
you
can
so
starting
tomorrow.
A
I
believe
so
you
can
click
there
and
look
at
it
and
I
think
right
now
it's
on
like
the
main
page
so
of
each
challenge
so
enjoy
and
read
and
learn
and
see
how
it's
you
know
kind
of
like
activates,
your
creativity.
A
And
ask
them
to
share
what
what
what
how
do
they
feel
about
the
experience,
the
innovation
phase
of
so
the
yeah,
the
innovation
phase
of
funds3
one
fund
backwards.
A
So
people
really
liked
just
like
how
much
active
the
community
is,
the
the
decentralization,
the
discovering
of
new
innovations,
empowerment
ability
to
influence
the
outcome
receiving
and
giving
feedback.
So
overwhelmingly.
That
was
like
the
kind
of
feedback
we
got
about
things
that
can
be
improved.
A
A
And
you
know
so,
people
offering
radical
ideas
are
getting
rid
of
challenges
together
or
having
more
reddit
style
ways
to
incentivize
community
engagement,
which
is
funny
because
we
just
talked
about
it
with
rob
earlier,
but
also
we're
talking
about
native
language
support
and
the
fact
that
it's
a
bit
confusing.
We
saw
with
different
funds
running
in
parallel
and
api
access,
and
I
have
to
say
that
all
the
things
in
green
are
are
currently
actively
taken
care
of,
and
I
think,
with
the
ux
and
and
filtering
inserting
options.
A
A
After
that,
you
know
we
have
another
week
after
the
submission
for
people
to
offer
feedback
on
the
proposals
and
then
a
way
for
quiet
and
then
after
this
is
like
a
quiet
week
for
proposals
to
take
all
the
feedback
and
evolve
their
proposal.
Accordingly,
then
they're
going
to
get
assessed
and
then
we're
going
to
start
like
voting
on
them
and
decide
which
ones
are
going
to
get
funded.
So
this
is
a
kind
of
an
overview
for
you.
You
new
people
so
this
week,
so
you
know
we
will,
with
the
perspectives
that
were
shared.
A
The
insights
that
were
shared
will
be
archived
and
there's
going
to
be
a
new
submission
form
to
submit
proposals
so
and
now
I'm
just
going
to
talk
a
bit
about
proposing
and
I'm
going
to
kind
of
run
through
it.
So
you
have
the
proposer,
referrer
and
implementer
okay,
so
the
proposer
is
like
the
ceo
of
the
proposal
is
really
in
charge,
basically
to
make
sure
that
you
know
things
get
done.
You
know
he's
like
the
ultimate
accountable
person.
A
He
also
has
control
over
the
funds.
You
can
have
co-proposers
that
can
that
can
work
together,
like
think
about
it
like
co-founders
in
a
company,
and
then
you
have
implementers.
So
these
are
people
that
that
work
with
the
proposers
to
implement
it,
and
so
it
could
be
any
one
of
you.
You
can
join
forces
if
there's
like
an
idea
that
you,
you
know
if
both
sides,
if
you
like
the
proposal
and
the
proposer
likes
you,
you
know
you
can
work
together.
A
The
goal
of
a
proposal
is
to
address
a
challenge
this
time
around.
We
have
a
lot
of
challenges.
We
have
the
developer
ecosystem,
it's
about
basically
creating
a
positive
developer
experience
and
helping
developers
focus
on
building
successful,
successful
apps,
rather
than
like
building
the
entire
infrastructure.
A
We
have
the
dax
in
integration
that
is
more
targeted
towards
end
user
adoption,
so
this
is
actually
the
actual
app
apps
to
be
developed
to
solve
real
user
problems
and
an
increased
adoption
of
er
of
cardano,
and
so
these
are
like
really.
The
majority
of
the
funding
goes
to
this
two
types
of
two
types
of
challenges.
Then
we
have
a.
I
would
call
seed
challenges,
it's
like
a
experiment,
experimental
challenges
that
are
actually
about
improving
catalyst.
The
process
so
like
this
little
bacteria
that
builds
a
propeller.
So
this
is
what
we're
doing.
A
This
is
the
this.
Is
the
energy
for
us
to
build,
propellers
and
move
ourselves,
and
and
and
do
it
in
the
in
an
autonomous
fashion?
So
it's
about
a
distributed
decision-making,
making
better
decisions,
local
community
centers.
So
how?
How
do
we
work
locally
to
connect
from
across
the
globe
to
connect
people
to
the
cardano
mission
and
effort?
A
It's
about,
and
it's
a
collaboration
with
this,
the
cf?
How
do
we
better
on
board
people
to
catalyst
to
to
to
to
to
get
more
people
to
meaningfully
participate?
And
how
are
we
getting?
A
The
last
challenge
is
actually
a
challenge
for
setting
new
challenges,
and
this
is
a
a
kind
of
a
bit
meta,
a
bit
difficult,
so
we're
actually
gonna
right
after
this
town
hall
we're
going
to
have
a
workshop
around
that.
So,
if
you,
you
know
so
basically
like,
if
you
want
to
create
you
think
the
community
should
have
a
different
challenge
to
solve.
It
can
even
be
the
challenges
could
be
like.
There
is
no
challenge
just
like
an
open
fund.
A
This
is
the
opportunity
to
to
come
and
propose
it,
and
then
the
community
can
can
vote
on
it
and
decide
how
much
funds
they
want
to
allocate
for
this
particular
challenge.
So
we'll
have
the
workshop,
and
I
really
gonna
talk
to
you
about
it,
a
lot
more
and
help
you
actually
write
a
draft
for
for
a
new
challenge
for
catalyst.
A
So
the
next
part
I'm
just
talking
about
regular
challenges,
not
the
done
the
challenge,
setting
challenge
and
it's
all
about
return
on
intention.
That's
that's
what
we
want
to
address.
This
is
all
about
solving
the
solving
the
the
challenge,
like
the
intent
that
we
set
and
and
making
sure
that
we
have
the
best
solutions
and
at
least
we're
trying
many
parallel
solutions
to
solve
a
problem,
and
we
see
what
what
what
works.
A
So
so
here
it's
like
the
question
was
like.
So
you
know
in
the
developer
challenge
like
it's
like.
How
can
we
create
a
positive
developer
experience
that
helps
the
developer
focus
on
building
successful
apps?
A
So,
at
the
end
of
the
challenge,
we're
going
to
ask
or
we're
going
to
track
over
time?
Did
we
actually
generate
a
good
developer
experience
and
had
successful
dapps
created
because
of
the
efforts?
Because
of
because
of
our
proposals,
the
funded
proposals,
and
we
have
specific
metrics
that
we're
gonna
track
like
there's
gonna,
be
a
list
of
gaps
that
we're
gonna
look
from
the
from
the
inside
sharing
stage
that
were
identified
and
we're
gonna.
A
We're
going
to
look
at
how
many
ripples
on
github
are
using
the
tooling
that
people
have
developed
and
the
rate
of
increasing
them
we're
going
to
look
at
how
much
wait
time
does
it
take
for
a
developer
that
is
stuck
like
building
his
application
on
top
of
cardano
until
he
gets
a
an
answer?
Okay,
so
so
shortening
that
that
way,
time
and
making
it
more
effective,
all
and
and
in
the
end,
a
sense
of
community
and
conversation.
The
our
dev
community,
like
having
people
around
to
talk
with
people
that
share
the
share.
A
Your
interest
share
your
passion
support
each
other,
so
this
is
obviously
hard
to
quantify,
but
we
can
definitely
make
a
survey
to
measure
that
so
yeah
go
go
and
look
like
each
and
every
challenge
you
eat.
There's
some
metrics
and
some
some
some
definition
of
success
so
check
out
the
first
town
hall
to
learn
more
then.
The
next
step
is
at
some
point.
A
The
proposals
you
put
here
are
gonna
be
a
reviewed
by
community
advisors
and
they
have
a
very
specific
guideline
of
like
how
they
review
things
and
what
criteria
they
choose.
So
it's
useful
to
know.
What's
the
criteria
just
so
you
can
kind
of
make
sure
you
you
address
it
first
and
foremost
is
impact,
so
you
know
do
how
much
they
you
know.
A
They
agree
that
the
proposal
addressed
the
challenge,
so
they
can
have
a
kind
of
a
one
to
five
metric
where,
like
five
say
like,
I
really
strongly
agree
that
it
really
addresses
the
challenge
and
you
can
have
you
know.
The
second
criteria
is
feasibility,
so
not
just
what
effectively
addresses,
but
how
likely
it
is
that
it's
actually
going
to
implement
successfully
like.
Is
it
too
risky?
Is
the
team
experienced
enough
etc
to
to
deliver
on
what
they
promise?
A
Then
you
have
auditability,
which
is
basically
how
how
much
effort
and
and
like
jumps
in
understanding,
does
a
reviewer
needs
to
do
to
kind
of
get
what
you're
trying
to
say
like
to
understand
your
proposals
and
to
to
able
to
to
assess
it?
You
know
it's
is:
it
are
a
lot
of
things
not
mentioned
at
all
or
they're,
like
mentioned,
in
the
vague
ambiguous
way
that
make
it
make
it
very
hard
for
the
community
advisors
to
do
its
job,
their
job
or
or
not?
A
Okay,
so
that's
that's
the
criteria,
so
clarity
of
expression
is
is
in
detail
is
important,
so
those
community
advisors
we're
going
to
talk
about
it
in
I'm
not
going
to
spend
too
much
time
about
about
it.
We're
going
to
open
registration
for
community
advisors
in
the
coming
weeks
and
we're
going
to
talk
a
lot
about
it
in
a
future
town
hall
and
just
when
you
write
a
proposal,
just
notice
that
you
know
what
you
see
in
a
decade
is
not
the
end
format
like
at
the
end.
A
It's
all
going
to
be
displayed
in
the
catalyst
voting
in
catalyst,
voting
app
and
you
know,
being
short
and
to
the
point
is
really
really
important
because
you
know
when
you
think
about
the
the
different
fields,
you
need
to
feel
like
the
problem
to
address
the
solution.
A
Your
relevant
experience,
there's
not
a
lot
of
space
here
to
read
everything,
and
this
is
this-
is
where,
when
you
you're
a
voter,
you
kind
of
like
browse
through
these
things,
and
then
you
decide
if
it's
like
interesting
enough
to
to
actually
read
the
complete
proposal
or
not
so
so.
Polishing
that
part
is,
is
really
important,
because
it's
really
going
to
affect
your
success
of
getting
voted
in
the.
A
So
let's
talk
about
the
different
fields.
Okay,
so
you
have
a
title.
This
is
an
example
of
a
nice
title
and
it
should
be
simple,
should
be
informative.
Talk
about
what
does
it
do
your
proposal
and
who
is
it
for
okay?
Does
it
to
import
okay?
So
it's
for
stakeful
operators
and
it
gives
them
a
you
know:
a
vlog
video,
a
video
blogging
network,
okay,
so
it's
it's
concise
and
and
to
the
point
and
no
hype,
it's
like!
Don't
don't
do
marketing
speak.
A
A
You're
solving
so
this
is
why
the
problem
definition
is
the
first
thing
we're
showing
to
voters,
and
this
is
like
the
first
thing
they're
going
to
look
at
and
they
can
see
if
you
can,
when
you,
when
you
that
you're,
not
a
person
who,
just
like
jumps
to
a
solution,
but
you
actually
had
spent
some
time
deeply
thinking
about
the
problem.
You're
solving
so-
and
this
is
a
little
format
for
you
to
to
write
down
your
problem
to
nail
it
because
you
don't
have
a
lot
of
space
there
in
that
field.
A
So
you
know
describe
what's
the
ideal
state
of
affairs
how
things
should
be
ex
so
explain
the
problem?
Why
why?
Why
are
we
not
there
yet
okay,
but
in
a
very
short
way,
explain
what's
the
impact
of
this?
What's
the
what's,
the
financial
cost
opportunity
cost
that
try
to
quantify
how
big
of
a
problem
it
is
and
then,
in
the
end
like
give
us
some
evidence
like
like,
so
you
don't
need
to
put
it
in
the
in
that
small
space.
A
A
A
A
A
What
exactly
it
addresses
and
that's
a
sure
sign
way
that
that
that
you
need
to
like
kind
of
go
back
to
basics
and
and
think
more
a
bit
more
because
usually
a
good
proposal
comes
with
a
solid
problem
definition
and
don't
worry
about
the
details.
The
details
are
in
the
plan
in
detail
section
of
the
of
the
proposal.
A
Third,
one
is
relevant
experience,
so
so
you're
to
talk
specifically
about
what
makes
you
know
what
why
why
is
it
very
likely
that
you're
going
to
be
successful?
Implementing
this,
like,
what's
my
background?
What
similar
experience
I
have-
who
am
I
teaming
up
with
words
like?
Is
there
committed
people
that
are
working
with?
Am
I
having
additional
sources
of
funding?
A
A
Lastly,
not
less
like,
then
then,
there's
like
the
dollars
like
how
much
funding
you're
requesting
try
to
use
some
kind
of
a
budgeting
methodology
around
that
you
know
just
don't
just
make
up
a
number
try
to
detail.
Why
you're
asking
for
this
amount
of
funds
in
the
additional
details,
we're
dealing
with
u.s
dollars,
not
with
ada
and
like
the
treasury,
will
send
you
ada,
but
we're
gonna.
A
You
know
you're
gonna
get
the
amount
of
ada.
That's
like
the
sim
is
that
that
is
the
equivalent
amount
of
ada
to
the
dollar
value
you
requested
on
the
day
of
funding,
so
basically
just
to
make
it
to
make
it
more
clear.
Let's
say
you
asked
for
a
hundred
dollars
and
your
proposal
got
funded
and
between
that
let's
say,
but
then
in
the
next
the
two
months
it
went
between
your
initial
proposal
and
the
funding
event.
A
Ada
went
up
10
times
larger
you're
not
going
to
get
10
times
the
money
you
requested,
you're,
going
to
get
the
same
amount
of
dollar
value
that
you
originally
requested,
you're
going
to
get
100
worth
of
ada
okay.
So
this
is
important.
This
gives
you
stability,
you
know
and
you
promise
you're
gonna
deliver
something,
and
then
you
need
to
pay
people
in
in
fiat.
You
know
to
pay
the
rent.
A
You
know
we're
not
gonna
you're,
not
gonna,
get
like
10
times
what
you
asked
or
10
times
less
than
what
you
asked
and
have
to
deal
with
the
consequences.
It's
going
to
get
what
you
asked
for
and
do
write
it
as
an
integer.
Don't
don't
write
numbers,
don't
write
conditionals
just
be
just
put
put
in
put
one
number
there.
A
A
We
encourage
people
now
to
like
post
like
drafts
of
their
idea.
You
don't
need
to
know
all
the
details.
You
don't
need
to
know
the
exact
funding
amount
you're
going
to
ask
for
right
at
the
start.
You
know
you
have
several
weeks
to
work
on
that
at
details.
So
right
now
you
don't
need
to
put
the
dollars
requested
for
the
first
few
weeks
and
we're
only
going
to
ask
you
to
do
it
at
the
finalization
stage.
So
that's
like
in
three
weeks
from
now.
So
so
don't
worry
about
it.
Yet
worry
about
your
problem.
A
Worry
about
your
solution
and,
lastly,
there's
like
an
additional
details
area
for
all
the
information
that
you
want
to
add.
That
is
not
part
of
this.
This
it
was
defined
before
we,
we
recommend
putting
there
a
plan
for
like
if
you
do
get
funding
how
the
first
month,
three
months
six
months,
gonna
look
like
in
terms
of
a
budget
in
terms
of
road
map.
A
In
terms
of
milestones,
how
the
success
look
like
after
one
month,
three
months
six
months
and
also
that
you
talk
about-
inform
the
community
about
the
intellectual
property
rights
just
so
people
know
if
you're,
creating
something,
that's
completely
open
source
and
reusable
or
you're,
creating
something
that
you
have
a
patent
on.
You
know
these
are
these
will
influence
how
the
community
decides
to
fund
you?
A
A
You
actually
really
talk
directly
to
the
or
to
the
challenge
brief
to
what's
defined
there
and
like
talk
about
how
you,
how
you're
addressing
it
and
then
you
can,
you
know
you,
can
you
can
really
go,
go
for
it
and
like
write
it
in
detail,
add
slides
and
images
click
to
a
video.
You
know
whatever,
whatever
you,
whatever
you
need
to
to
get
the
point
across
and
there's
a
field
where
you
can
put
out,
but
in
the
email
of
the
person
who
referred
you
and
how
are
you
referred
to
exactly
so?
A
Now,
once
you
submitted
your
proposal
or
or
like
if
you're
still
in
the
process,
like
maybe
a
lot
of
you
have
a
great
idea,
but
not
necessarily
have
the
implementers
or
the
collaborators
to
do
it
to
do
it.
So
we're
giving
you
a
bit
of
tool
some
tools
to
do
that.
To
find
your,
you
know,
your
co-founder
found
find
a
developer.
That's
that
can
realize
your
dream,
and
so
one
way
is
to
use
tags
in
id
scale.
A
So
when
you,
when
you
post
a
proposal,
you
can
also
add
tags
and-
and
the
tags
are
specifically
about
what
do
I
seek
like?
Who
I'm?
Who
am
I
looking
forward
to
and
then
you
know
people
can
look
and
filter
in
proposals
according
to
that
tag
and,
and
they
might
reach
out
to
you
if,
if
they're
interested
in
in
joining
forces,
another
option
is
we
have
a
discord
channel,
that's
very,
very
lively,
very
active.
A
I
think
we
get
like
hundreds
of
people
joining
it
every
every
single
week,
so
it's
like
growing
fast
and
there's
a
channel
specifically
to
pitch
devs
about
your
project
or
also
there's,
like
you
can
add,
mention
there
for
hire
to
pick
developers,
and
I
think
this
is
like
the
same
for
you
guys.
A
So
so
anybody
here
who
just
wants
to
build
and
looking
for
the
next
big
thing
to
to
propose
you
know
to
collaborate
on
and
hold
their
skills
etc
like
go
to
those
places
and
find
your
your
your
your
proposer,
mate,
you
know
great
opportunity
on
the
bottom
here,
there's
like
a
bunch
of
links
to
all
sorts
of
guidelines.
We
created
to
get
even
more
in-depth
understanding,
there's
like
the
official
guidelines
and
you
did
a
really
nice
job
of
writing.
A
proposal
guide
check
it
out.
A
It's
really
nice
and
we
opened
up
a
new
proposal,
telegram
channels.
It's
like
a
support
group.
If
you
have
a
question
or
you're
looking
for
collaborators
or
you
just
want
to
vent,
I
think
it's
a
great
place
to
to
find
fellow
fellow
proposers
that
are
on
the
same
boat
as
you
and,
of
course,
the
general
discord
channel
and
there's
a
dashboard
made
by
danny.
That's
like
just
like
has
a
lot
of
information
about
the
past.
Like
you
know
what
how
much
proposals
were
asking
for?
A
You
know
how
much
what
was
the
voting
statistics
around
them?
It
could
be
really
useful
for
you
to
orient
yourself
to
learn.
Like
you
know
like,
like
help,
you
kind
of
estimate,
you
know,
what's
a
reasonable
amount
to
ask
like
how
does
funded
proposals,
look
like
use
that
use
those
resources.
A
A
We
recommend,
at
this
stage
of
the
process
and
the
second
week
as
a
proposal,
to
really
just
focus
on
the
problem
statement
and
focus
on
the
relevant
experience
nail
that
you
know
make
a
problem.
That's
really
engaging
for
people
make
make
make
them
see
that
you're
a
serious
person
with
the
the
right
skill
set.
A
Then
you
will
find
traction.
You'll
find
people
who
wants
to
join
you.
You
will
find
people
who
are
interested
to
give
you
feedback
and
work
with
you
focus
on
these
things.
First,
after
you
nail
this
down,
you
can
go.
You
know
like
go
for
the
solution,
like
start
to
articulate.
What's
what's
your
angle?
What's
the
solution
you're
proposing
and
you
know
the
detailed
plan
and
the
other
requested-
it's
like
it's
nice
to
have,
but
it's
you
can
actually
do
it
in
later
rounds.
It's
not
the
focus
right
now!
A
Okay,
so
if
you
could
do
it,
you
don't
have
to
you,
can
you
can
you
know
you
can
learn
a
bit
from
this
initial
feedback
and
then
go
into
the
details
and
remember
like
every
six
weeks
we
start
a
new
funding
ground
and
right
now,
you're
just
in
this
process-
and
you
know-
maybe
it's
like
the
first
time
go
for.
You
know
time
for
to
go
for
it.
A
Let's
give
it
a
shot,
see
what
happens
see
what
unfolds,
even
if,
even
if
your
proposal
is
not
going
to
get
funded
and
the
majority
of
proposals,
to
be
honest,
you
know
they're
not
going
to
get
funded
because
it's
like
the
because
this
is
a
scarce
resource
and
but
you
learn
you
learn
and
you
build
your
network
and
you
build
your.
You
build
trust
and
you
build
your
reputation.
A
So
it's
really
worthwhile
to
to
pursue
so
maybe
not
this
round.
But
you
can
wait
six
weeks
and
then
six
weeks
and
if
you
work
hard
and
be
persistent
and
listen,
you
will
find
your
place
in
catalyst.
Don't
worry,
there's
a
place
for
everybody
to
to
contribute
and
bring
value,
and,
lastly,
don't
waste
people's
time.
If
you're
not
serious,
okay,
we're
all
busy
people
and
we
want
serious
people.
Okay,
so
no
joke!
You
know
what's
serious,
it's
too
thick
serious
is
something
that
demands
careful
consideration
or
application,
or
also
just
being
sincere
and
earnest.
A
A
That's
people
are
gonna,
see
that
and
look
at
that
as
they
go
through
this
this
phase
and
the
and
for
the
voters
too,
and
when
you
post
a
challenge
when
you
post
a
submit
you're
going
to
have
a
sub
menu
where
you
can
decide
which
fund
you're
going
to
submit
it
to
which
fund
and
which
challenge
just
make
sure
that
you,
you
you're
on
front
four
and
that
you
submit
to
the
right
challenge
and
just
pay
attention
to
that
little
interface.
A
And
lastly,
you
know
just
for
people
who
are
not
proposers
or
a
proposer
just
want
to
give
feedback
to
proposers
that
posted
their
draft
and
it's
important
to
give
constructive
and
structured
feedback.
We're
going
to
talk
about
it
next
week,
a
lot
more,
but
you
know
like
when
you
read
the
proposal,
just
look
at
this
auditability
impact
and
feasibility
and
really
tell
them.
How
do
you
think
it
can
be
better?
A
You
know,
don't
be
negative,
don't
be
don't
be
a
troll,
don't
be
toxic.
You
know,
like
help,
help
them
a
lot
of
people.
This
is
like
their
first
attempt.
Okay
doing
this
thing,
and,
and
sometimes
there's
like
a
lot
to
learn-
and
so
some
kindness
and
then
some
empathy
is
is,
is
actually
that's
what
gets
outcomes?
A
Let
us
get
results
in
the
end
like
building
this
strong
community
that
we
have
so
so.
Just
remember
that
negativity,
you
know
it's
not
like.
Don't
be
real,
be
real,
but
don't
be
you
know,
don't
make
a
person
feel
bad
about
themselves.
You
know
you
can
you
can
whatever
say
whatever
criticism.
You
say
you
can
say
it
in
a
in
a
way.
A
That's
nice
and
in
in
a
way
that
helps
a
person
understand
what's
going
on
and
help
him
improve,
not
not
just
sex
out
the
energy
from
him
and
for
you,
the
proposer,
you
might
get
some
negative
comments,
you
know
just,
but
you
know
try
to
listen
to
them,
but
also
try
to
like
try
to
listen
to
the
essence
of
what
they're
saying,
but
really,
if
someone
is
just
like
being
an
just
ignore
them,
it's
the
best
thing.
That's
the
best
way
to
handle
with
people
are
like
being
very
negative.
A
A
A
A
But
if
you
want,
like
kind
of
like
more
like
a
general
support,
a
chat
and
there's
the
proposer's
telegram
channel,
there's
also
a
wide
variety
of
other
channels
in
catalyst
like
there's
a
channel
for
community
advisors
and
there's,
there's
a
telegram
channel
for
general
catalyst
chat.
So
you
know
you
can
join
one
or
several
of
them.
A
So
what
I
would
what
I
would
propose
given,
given
all
the
time
that
it
took
us
to
get
to
get
here,
is
I'm
gonna,
take
a
five-minute
break
just
to
drink
some
water
and
and
then
like,
if
you're,
if
you're
person,
who
is
interested
in
in
writing,
a
proposal
for
the
community
setting
challenge
for
the
ch.
The
challenge
setting
challenge
stick
around
in
the
next
five
minutes
stick
around
and
we
will
do
a
little
workshop
together
of
how
to
write
a
draft
through
this
proposal.
A
I
think
there's
also
the
smaller
group
for
that
to
come
to
talk
with
rob.
I
don't
know
if
they
already
started
or
it
starts
now,
but
you
can
also
join
that.
A
A
A
Okay,
let's,
let's
start
I'm
curious,
I'm
curious
how
many
people
stay
there.
Many
people
are
interested
in
actually
writing
a
a
challenge
for
the
for
the
community.
Well,
I
mean
you
know
worst
case
it's
recorded,
so
people
are
late.
Can
can
can
just
you
know,
look
at
the
recording
later.
A
Okay,
so
this
is
the
challenge
setting
workshop.
It's
like
a
very
first
time,
we're
doing
it
with
with
the
community,
and
what
we're
trying
to
do
today
is
we're
gonna,
create
together,
live
we're
gonna,
write
a
draft
for
a
proposal
for
fund
for
fund
six
challenge
setting,
and
for
this
you
will
need
two
resources.
Now
that
I
think
about
it.
A
A
So
there's
two
links
here.
The
first
link
is
this
one,
so
this
is
the
here's
an
example
chunk
proposal.
So
this
is
the
template,
so
this
is
just
like
basically
an
empty
form,
and
I
need
you
all
to
open
that
google
doc
and
then
make
a
copy
of
it,
and
that
would
be
your
copy
or
draft
okay,
because
because
that
what
I'm
sharing
is
just
it's
not
editable,
it's
just
a
template,
so
so
click
on
it
gonna
show
people.
If
some
of
you,
it's
like
the
first
time
dealing
with
google
docs.
A
A
A
Okay,
I
tell
you
what
I'll
do
so.
You
take
this
example:
the
ecosystem
fund.
For
brief,
you
go
here
file
you
go
to
make
a
copy,
and
then
you
say,
like
you,
know
my
draft
okay,
that
would
open
for
you,
your
document
that
you
can
edit
and
I'll
ask
each
one
of
you
to
just
delete,
delete
the
content.
That's
in
the
example,
so
you
can
write
your
own
title,
etc
and
sorry
about
that.
A
A
A
Let's
actually
figure
out
what
we're
gonna
put
in
our
draft,
so
how
it's
gonna
work,
we're
gonna,
I'm
gonna
give
you
a
bit
of
a
presentation
just
about
the
different
parts
of
this
of
the
community
challenge
proposal
and
then
we'll
take
like
I'll
give
you
like
20
minutes
to
actually
sit
and
and
write
your
draft
like
something,
quick
and
dirty.
A
Then
we're
going
to
ask
some
of
you
to
kind
of
raise
your
hands
in
the
chat
and-
and
we
will
bring
you
here
and
you
will
you
will
present
your
draft
just
like
you
know,
just
just
show
what
you
did.
You
know.
We
know
it's
like
a
20
minute
work,
it's
fine,
but
but
it's
like
a
chance
for
us
to
give
you
feedback
about
it.
So
I
can
give
you
feedback
about
it,
and
people
in
the
comments
can
give
you
feedback
and
and
together
we
all
learn
okay
to
to
write
these
things.
A
So
it's
it's!
It's
just
a
draft.
That's
an
exercise
then
don't
take
it
too.
You
know
don't
take
it
too
too
heavily
and
after
we
do
this
with
like
short
review,
then
we
can
look
at
the
then
we'll
have
another
15
minutes
to
kind
of
write.
Your
draft,
you
know
like
rewrite
your
draft
following
the
review
and
enhance
it
a
bit
more
okay.
So
what
are
challenges?
A
Okay,
so
challenges?
So
basically
a
call
for
proposal.
You
could
say
it's
a
call
like
it's.
It's
like
defining
a
certain
intention,
a
certain
problem
that
we
want
to
invite
proposers
to
to
address,
and
it
has
a
limited
budget.
So
basically
you
can
say
like
okay.
My
challenge
I
want
to
dedicate.
I
want,
I
believe,
like
my
proposal,
is
that
the
community
would
indicate
like
a
hundred
thousand
dollars
for
this
particular
challenge
or
half
a
million
dollars
for
this
particular
challenge
or
like
ten
thousand
dollars
for
this
particular
challenge.
A
The
the
important
thing
is
that
all
the
challenges
together
for
in
this
category
should
be
four
hundred
thousand
dollars,
so
you
can't
ask
for
more
than
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
and
if
you're
asking
for
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
just
know
that
it
means
that
no
other
challenge
community
challenge
can
can
happen
in
parallel.
So
it's
like
so
it's
kind
of
like
this.
In
a
way
it's
like
the
smaller
it
is.
It
makes
it
maybe
a
bit
easier
for
voters
to
to
want
to
include
it
because
then
they
can,
you
know,
then
they
can.
A
We
can
launch
like
many
different
challenges.
Right,
like
in
catalyst,
you
see,
there's
like
a
there's,
a
400
000
challenge
like
the
dev
ecosystem.
You
have
also
smaller
fifty
thousand
dollar
challenges.
They
could
be
even
smaller.
You
can
have
a
five
dollar
challenge
and
see
what
happens,
and
you
know.
Maybe
it's
a
really
good
idea
and
people
people
like
it,
but
the
point
is:
there's
a
limited
budget
for
all
the
community
choice
challenges
that
challenge
would
be
launched
on.
A
A
Those
are
selected
will
become
challenges
in
catalyst,
like
all
the
other
challenges
that
you
now
see.
So
that's
like
super
cool
and
one
more
thing
is
like
a
challenge
evolves
over
time
according
to
its
roi
or
the
return
on
intentions.
So
what
do
I
mean
like?
So?
Let's
say
you
you,
we
launched
an
experiment
like
the
community
chose
some.
A
I
don't
know
solving
the
banking,
the
unbanked
challenge
in
africa,
and
then
we
see
like
a
wave
of
amazing
proposals
and
engagement
and
it's
like
a
huge
success
and
there's
like
you
know,
and-
and
we
got
to
really
high
return
on
intention-
really
solve
this
problem.
You
know
like
like
it
was
addressed
in
a
very
impactful
way.
Then
it
means
that
we're
probably
gonna
keep
it
for
the
next
funding
ground
and
it's
actually
going
to
grow
in
size.
You
know,
and
and
on
the
other
hand
you
do
you
know
the
community.
A
A
So,
okay,
so
we
talked
about
the
creating
a
draft.
Probably
this
link
is
not
good,
because
it's
for
a
different
workshop.
A
A
How
do
we
measure
it
and
a
little
challenge
brief
that
has
some
guiding
questions
and
potential
directions,
so
the
challenge
title
limited
to
35
characters
and
it's
hard
but
worthwhile
again
should
be
short,
attractive
and
direct
and,
like
developer
ecosystem,
pretty
clear
what
that
is
now
the
challenge.
Question.
A
We
recommend
we
recommend
to
choose
wicked
problems.
Okay,
so
there's
this
there's
two
types
of
innovation
and
this
cuffed
innovation
and
uncuffed
innovation.
Cost
innovation
is
like
when
you
ask
someone
to
iterate
on
developing
like
a
better
shoe,
okay
or
like
or
like
like,
like
a
little
incremental.
You
know
you
crowdsource,
oh
we're,
so
amazing
we
crowdsourced,
we
have
a
shoe,
and
then
we
asked
people
to
offer
different
models
of
the
shoe
in
different
colors.
How
amazing
it
is.
Okay,
that's
cost
innovation.
A
A
A
good
way
to
identify
wicked
problem
is
that
people
try
to
solve
it
before
and
failed
and
that
that
that
there's
and
that
there's
a
lot
multiple
perspectives
as
parallel
solutions
and
in
many
way,
different
ways
to
innovate
in
it
that
are
that
exist
that
there's
many
ways
to
skin
the
cats
as
they
say,
and
that-
and
that
is
some
some
open-ended
in
it.
This
is
like
engaging
and
inspiring,
and
it's
like
we've
been
proven
in
research
time
after
time
that
it's
a
more
effective
way
of
introducing
crowdsourced
innovation.
A
It's
better
to
be
constrained
in
time.
I
would
recommend
going
for
something
that
can
be
solved
in
three
to
six
months.
Just
so
you
know
just
so
it's
easier
to
to
measure
and
quantify
and
know
where
we
are
like.
If
we
set
the
goal
it's
like
in
five
years,
it
would
take
us
five
years
to
know
if
we
managed
to
accomplish
it
and
learn
so
relatively
shorter
term
or
better,
I
would
say,
like
maybe
go
as
far
as
maybe
one
year,
if
you
really
need
as
a
time
frame.
A
A
Okay,
I
think
I'm
back
live
for
the
one
and
a
half
person
that
was
patient
enough
to
stay.
I'm
so
sorry,
I
don't
know
what
I
I'm
actually
haven't
investigated.
What
was
because
I
think
it's
either
either
my
my
wife
or
the
cleaners
or
like
just
like
you
know,
disconnected
the
router
and
that's
about
it.
So
now
now
we're
back.
Okay!
Well,
I
see
see
people
are
taking
it
in
a
positive
way.
That's
good!
Okay!
So,
let's
just
carry
on.
A
So
did
you
guys
get
that
slide
yet
the
the
the
one
I'm
currently
showing.
A
Okay,
so
this
is
the
secret
formula
of
success,
okay,
so
for
for
the
challenge
question,
so
you
really
need
to
identify
like
it
starts
with.
How
can
we
help
and
then
it
has
like
you
identify
who
are
you
actually
helping?
What's
the
target
population?
A
A
A
You
know,
including
bridges
and
whatever
and
but
but
specifically
dapps
and
apps
that
are
on
top
of
cardano.
Okay,
and
if
you
really
want
to
add
another
constraint,
you
can
you
can
chain
constraints
and
qualifiers
there
you
can,
you
can
say,
how
can
we
encourage
developers
to
build
the
apps
on
top
of
cardano
in
six
months?
A
Okay,
like
how
can
we
like
in
six
months
and
that
you
know
these
daps
are
amazing:
okay,
like
or
like
they're
under
they're,
all
address
more
than
a
thousand
users,
so
you
can
chain
together
constraints
and
qualifiers
okay,
but
that
would
make
your
challenge
question
be
much
more
easier
to
to
to
to
frame
and
effective.
A
A
A
The
next
one
is
the
how
the
success
looks.
Look
like
so
here
you
need
to
really
put
on
your
visionary
goggles
and
imagine
that
the
challenge
was
addressed
successfully.
The
problem
was
got,
got
resolved.
How
does
it
actually
look
like
concretely,
like
you
know
like
when
we're
looking
back
after
our
success?
What
are
we,
why
do
we?
A
What
are
we
seeing,
okay
and
and
and
how
you
know
so
it
could
be
like?
Oh,
we
have,
you
know
for
the
dev
for
the
dev
ecosystem
like
success
would
be
like.
Oh,
we
have
thousands
of
developers
in
a
great
community
and
they're
all
building
stuff
really
easily
and
every
time
they
post
a
question
in
stack
overflow.
It
gets
answered
in
one
minute
you
know
like
so
that
could
be
like
success,
so
you
can
write
it
down
and
also
like,
like
how
do
you
know
we're
successful?
A
A
So,
let's
get
rid
of
an
objective
here,
like
you
know,
besides
the
hype
and
the
nice
energies
like,
is
there
some
evidence
that
we
are
getting
closer
to
this
to
the
success,
and
so
this
needs
to
be
something
that
can
be
objectively
measured,
the
more
simple
it
is
to
measure
it's
also
better
like
if
something
is,
would
take
like
immense
infrastructure
to
to
measure
it's
like.
A
You
know,
it's
like
less
good
something
predictive
like
something
that
predicting
success
like
like
the
velocity
of
growth
like
how
fast
are
you
growing
is
better
than
just
saying.
Okay,
we
get
a
hundred
people
a
hundred
there.
A
It's
like
where
they're
like
we're
growing
week
by
week
by
twenty
percent,
is
more
predictive
of
future
success
than
getting
to
a
hundred,
because
you
know
you
can
just
like
bribe
a
hundred
people
to
say
that
they
are
in
and
you're
done,
but
but
it's
it's
it's
not
predictive
of
the
future
and
also
you
need
to
fit
it
into
a
reporting
format.
So,
what's
the
reporting
format,
so
people
who
are
like
address
the
challenge
you
know
in
the
end
they
feel
every
two
weeks
they
feel
reports.
A
So
so
like
this
is
an
example
of
our
first
report,
so
it's
so
ugly,
so
we'll
make
it
nicer
looking,
but
you
can
see
the
name
of
the
proposal
and
then
you
can
see
like
things
we
measured
like
how
many
devs
did
you
attract?
How
many
depths
were
developed?
How
many
producers
did
you
attract
so
when
you
think
about
the
metrics
think
about
one
step
forward,
how
are
people
actually
going
to
report
on
them?
A
And
then
the
last
part
is
the
challenge
brief.
Okay,
so
you
can
talk
about
constraints
like
concerns
in
tech,
for
example,
like
what?
What
can
you
know
for
the
difficult
system
like
you
know,
there
might
be
specific
things
that
will
only
be
feasible
in
a
few
years,
so
you
can
write
it
as
a
constraint.
A
So
so
you
can,
you
can
give
some
example
propose,
like
example,
example
of
the
types
of
proposals
you're
looking
for
just
really
be
careful,
because
if
you're
going
to
use
as
an
example
something
a
proposal
you
have
and
people
see
that
you
actually
like.
You
know,
like
bending
the
challenge
criteria,
to
fit
the
specific
proposals
that
you're
asking
they're,
not
gonna,
they're,
not
gonna,
vote
on
this
challenge,
and
it's
also
like
it's.
It's
not
serious.
You
know
just
think
about
the
challenge
in
itself
and
don't
think
you're
going
to
be
the
solver
for
it.
A
You
know
you
might
have
a
solution,
maybe
one
part
of
the
problem,
but
if,
if,
if
you
already
know
exactly
how
to
solve
it,
it's
gonna
really
bias
you
in
terms
of
thinking
about
a
good
question,.
A
So
so
try
to
to
give
abstract
examples
of
like
potential
directions
just
to
just
to
clarify
what
was
your
intention
with
the
challenge
set
expectations?
A
To
10
minutes,
okay,
so
I'm
gonna
take
a
timer
and
I
think
all
of
you
managed
to
create
a
draft
just
go
through
the
go
through
the
like
right
right,
just
fill
up
the
page.
Even
if
it's
not
perfect,
it's
okay!
That's
not
the
point.
The
point
is
just
like
put
some
things
out
there,
so
we
can
review
them
quickly
just
to
just
to
learn.
So
I'm
gonna
put
up
the
timer.
A
A
A
A
Ran
out
of
time,
10
minutes,
do
we
have
someone
who
wrote
a
draft
and
want
to
get
get
some
quick
feedback
about
it
and
if
you're
out
there
use
the
chat
button
to
to
do
a
wave
and
will
bring.
A
A
A
Okay-
and
we
can
also
invite
robert
in
so
we
can
get
a
few
people.
You
will
share
that.
You
just
say:
share
your
screen
and
you
know,
then
we
can
all
see
it.
You
can
also
just
like
make
it
public
and
paste
it
on
the
chat
too.
If
you
want
us
to
see
it
like
that,.
E
I'll
just
share
this:
what
I've
done
up
on
just
give
us
a
sec
I'll
just
throw
the
google
doc
up
right.
I'll,
put
the
google
doc
into
the
chat.
A
Okay,
so
I
can
open
it
I'll,
tell
you
what
I'll
open
it
and
I'll
share?
Okay,
I
need
access
okay,
so
I
requested
that
oh.
E
Do
you
need
access
hold
on
a
sec.
E
Yeah
change
it
to
anyone
done
is
that
right,
you
should
have
access
now.
I
believe
so,
let's.
A
E
Oh,
I
was
just
sitting
there
trying
to
think
of
something
and
since
I'm
been
doing
quite
a
bit
of
work
in
this
area
as
an
oil
plant
as
well
so
digital
identity
ecosystem,
a
lot
of
people
would
have
heard
about
italia,
prism,
and
there
were
a
couple
of
proposals.
I
think
that
were
withdrawn
in
that
we're
looking
at
digital
identity,
largely
to
roll
out
digital
18.
E
E
So
it
would
be
good
to
see
you
know,
taking
the
basis
of
what's
happening
with
atala
prism
and
its
intention
to
be
open
source
to
expand
that
out
and
help
people
understand
more
broadly
how
to
use
the
technology
both
in
terms
of
getting
people
to
use
it.
E
You
know
and
incorporating
getting
developers
to
incorporate
digital
lighting
identity
into
their
d,
apps
or
other
sort
of
services.
So
that's
really
kind
of
the
framing.
I
could
go
on
a
lot
more.
So
really.
The
thing
here
is:
how
can
we
help
communities
that
establish
a
robust
digital
identity
for
their
members
that
gives
them
control
over
their
identity
and
personal
information?
E
So
that's
the
sort
of
challenge
this
is
looking
at
it
from
a
grassroots
point
of
view,
more
than
anything
else,
so
not
necessarily
going
into
governments
and
doing
things,
but
just
enabling
communities
to
to
get
their
members
to
use
digital
identity.
The
challenge
brief
there
making
it
easy
for
communities
to
onboard
members
to
create
a
digital
identity
under
their
control
will
lead
to
increased
adoption
of
cadano
based
the
apps
and
the
basis
for
developing
economic
identity.
E
So
here,
community
members
have
the
tools
needed
to
educate
help
and
involve
others
in
their
communities,
set
up
these
identities
easily.
So
this
is
sort
of
handholding
getting
them
going.
What
happens
if
you
lose
it
when
you
stuff
up
those
sort
of
things,
individuals
are
able
to
get
a
cadano
teleprism
based
digital
identity,
setup
and
initial
credentials
verified.
E
So
initial
credentials
here
would
be
say
like
belonging
to
a
charmer,
a
savings
group
or
something
or
in
the
case
here
in
new
zealand
belonging
to
a
ewe,
a
tribal
maori
tribal
group,
and
then
from
that
you
can
go
further
in
terms
of
letting
charities,
specify
things
or
government
agencies
starting
to
create
credentials
such
as
educational
claims,
which
is
happening
in
georgia
and
so
getting
people
used
to
using
it
and
from
that
also,
obviously
letting
cadano
the
developers
how
to
start
using
it.
All
those
sort
of
things.
A
Wonderful
well,
I
like
I
like
the
challenge.
First
of
all,
but
I
would
say
let
me
let
me
go
and
put
on
the
critical
lens
and
I'll
just
go
through
it
and
then,
and
if
what
I'm
curious
is
that
the
people
here
in
the
audience
that
are
seeing?
I
would
love
to.
A
I
love
if
you
write
in
the
chat,
your
thoughts
about
about
this
form
and
like
about
this,
this
challenge
and
and
if
you
have
some,
you
know
if,
if
from
reading
it,
okay
without
the,
if
you,
if
you
separate
out
what
was
said
orally
versus,
what's
like
written
on
the
page
and
do
you
have
any
questions
or
things
that
were
not
clear
about
the
intention
of
the
challenge,
you
feel,
do
you
feel
inspired,
you
know
to
propose
solutions
to
it
or
or
there's
some
things
that
are
unclear.
A
I
think
I
think
it
would
be
really
useful
for
robert
to
hear
from
you
so
as
I
as
in
parallel,
I'm
just
going
through
it.
Okay,
so
start
with
the
title.
A
I
think
I
I
mean
it
it's
good,
because
it's
it's
it's
it's,
I
think
it's
short
and
pretty
communicative.
The
I
think
the
main
issue
here
is
that
it
doesn't
mention
who
who
is
it
for
kind
of
like
like
it's
like
it's
like
a
bit
of
abstract.
It's
like
it's
like
a
digital
identity
ecosystem,
but
for
who
you
know
like
because-
and
I
think
that's
like
the
main
for
me-
that's,
like
the
main
I
would
say,
like
probably
my
main
critique
like
something
that
can
be
improved,
is
that
you
could
go.
A
I
think
you
could
go
a
bit
more
specific
about
who
you're
solving
this.
This
problem
is
so
huge,
and
it's
so
vast
that
that
I
think
I
think
what
the
cardano
community
can
do
is
like
solve
a
chunk
like
a
chunk
of
it.
You
know
and
maybe
not
just
go
for
everything
and
I
think
identifying
who,
whose
target
audience
is,
is
important.
A
E
Was
that
for
the
challenge
itself,
or
just
a
total
of.
E
A
Right
this
is
this:
is
the
total
budget
for
all
proposals,
so
so
people
who
can
offer
many
proposals
and
only
those
who
are
like
you
know,
selected,
and
you
know
in
order
that
that
you
know
they,
you
know
that
that
they'll
be
funded
up
to
four
hundred
thousand
dollars
worth
of
ada
will
be
selected,
and
all
that
goes
beyond
that
amount
will
not
be
funded
because
that's
like
the
budget
limits
that
we
set,
I
think
a
good.
I
mean
you
know
for
us.
A
A
I
think
it's
a
good
day.
You
don't
have
to
answer
it
right
now
and
definitely
not
for
this
round,
but
maybe
for
future
rounds.
I
think
it's
a
good
good
thing
to
think
about.
Okay,
then
we
have
the
challenge
question
and
generally
I
really
like
it.
How
can
we
help
communities
establish
a
robust
digital
identity
for
members
that
gives
them
control
over
their
identity
perspective?
Okay,
so
I
think
the
only
thing
I
see
here
is
the
communities
part
like.
A
A
I
think
here,
a
much
more
specific
like,
like
you
know,
talking
about
a
specific
target
audience
that
could
really
benefit
from
identity
in
a
great
way
you
know
or
trying
to
think
about
a
specific
community
that
cardano
can
can
really
efficiently
solve.
Their
particular
problem
is,
is,
is,
I
think,
would
be
a
bit
better.
So.
E
I
was
to
change
it
like
that,
for
so
for
a
local
context.
Many
people
maori,
are
the
indigenous
people
of
new
zealand.
So,
and
this
is.
A
A
I
would
I
would
you
know
I
mean
like
I
guess.
Ideally
you
would
be
like
take
a
list
of
even
just
interact
with
the
people
in
cardano
community
and
see.
Where
do
we
have
community
strong
community
hubs?
You
know
where,
where
do
we
have
large
cohorts
of
proposers
that
are
motivated
by
by
what
and
like
you
know
you
can
you
can
end
up
being
like
having
a
prioritized
list
of
like
all
sorts
of
target
audiences.
A
You
know,
and
you
can
choose
like
the
one
that
is
like
the
most
appropriate.
You
know
maybe
do
a
little
a
little
analysis
and
inquiry
around
which
target
population
is
ideal.
I
mean
I
don't
know
much
about
the
the
maori
culture,
so
you
know
sorry,
but.
E
I
said
yeah
indigenous
cultures,
so
it
applies
to
quite
a
lot
of
different
things
like
aboriginals
in
australia,
right
native,
indian
and
america
in
canada,
pacific
islanders
all
those
sort
of
things.
They
have
a
very
similar
sort
of
structure
which
are
essentially
cooperative,
collaborative
sort
of
organizations.
A
Good,
okay,
so
so
it
could
be
good,
maybe
so
so
I
would
just
like
explore
more
options
and
also
test
test
out
with
the
community
or
or
even
bring
maori
people.
A
If
you
know
if,
if
if
they
want
this
challenge
solved
right
like
like
like,
if
there
will
be,
you
know,
there
can
always
be
this
scenario
that
we're
all
like
you
know
it's
like
funded
and
we
bring
with
all
the
tools
and
blockchain
and
amazingness,
and
then
they
don't
even
want
it
in
the
first
place.
So
so
some
validation
may
be
worthwhile
if
there's
of
the
need
and
the
need
of
desire,
especially
when
you
deal
with
something
so
specific
as
local
communities
that
might
have
their
own
idea
of
what
they
they
need
and
want.
E
Okay,
so
just
a
question
here
then,
in
terms
of
working
on
it,
I'm
looking
this
from
a
challenge,
point
of
view
not
from
a
specific
proposal,
point
of
view.
So
how
would
you
build
a
digital
identity,
ecosystem
for
all
sorts
of
different
communities
around
the
world
and
yeah?
Then
a
big
proposal
inside
of
it
might
be
so
too
to
try
and
do
something
for
a
maori
which
is
a
tribe
and
that
sort
of
thing
maybe.
A
So
yeah
I
mean
there's
so
many
ways
to
you
know
you
can
look
at
it
from
anything
negative.
I
mean
and
I'm
just
brainstorming
with
you,
but
you
could
phrase
it
as
instead
of
saying
communities.
It
can
say
your
community
okay,
that
can
make
it
much
more
like
global,
because
some
people,
their
community,
is
a
community
in
argentina
and
from
other
some
other
people.
Your
community
is,
you
know
somewhere
else
on
the
globe
or,
but
I
do
think
that.
A
You
can
also
look
at
it
in
terms
of
the
type
of
community
okay.
So
so
you
know
if
you're
talking
about,
are
you
in
a
municipal
level,
on
the
state
level
on
the
family
level
on
a
virtual
level
or
you
want
them
all
together,
like
I
think
it's
it's
it's
it's
worth
thinking,
and
and
and
mostly
it's
worth
testing.
So
it's
it's
mostly
it's
worse
to
go
to
to
the
cardano
community,
go
on
the
chat
on
the
discord
and
like
talk
to
them
about
different
options
and
asking
people
what
engages
you?
A
Okay,
because
one
of
the
things
that
are
important
to
make
a
challenge.
Is
it
it's
both
ways?
It's
like
the
problem
needs
to
be
big
and
impactful,
but
also
the
community
needs
to
be
excited
and
has
the
capabilities
to
solve
it.
So
so
so
something
something
that
the
one
thing
that
kind
of
addresses
both
of
these
would
be
ideal.
And
you
can
you
can
do
some
early
research
about
it,
get
get
you
know,
get
out
the
poll
out
there
get
out.
A
E
Yeah
those
things
a
little
bit,
you
know
how
so
changing
the
challenge.
Question,
for
example,
to
how
can
you
help
your
community
establish,
etc
and
then
sort
of
like
saying
making
it
easier
for
tribal
groups
to
onboard
members
to
create
digital
identity,
so
tribal
care
is
more
broader
to
do
with
indigenous
groups,
for
example.
How
would
is
that
an
improvement
based
on
what
you
were
sort
of
suggesting.
A
A
I
guess
my
main
thing
is
just
like
go
out.
You
know
before
you.
You
know
you
can
submit
this
as
an
early
draft
and
like
I
would,
I
would
try
to
to
see
what
resonates
with
with
the
cardano
community
and
what
resonates
with
your
target
populations
also,
as
I
said
before,
I
think
I
think,
defining
the
type
of
community.
So
it's
okay,
you
could
say
your
digital
community
or
your
municipal
community.
You
know
your
neighborhood
community
so
like
adding
this
to
our
source
of
qualifiers
really
takes.
A
A
A
Yeah
I
mean,
I
think
it's
not.
I
mean
looking
at
your
argument
like
it
could
do
some
work
like
because
you're
saying
that
like.
If,
if
it's
easier
for
tribal
groups,
then
there
will
be
more
adoption
like
basically
they
will.
They
will
adopt
cardano
based
depths
and
the
basis
for
developing
economic
identity.
I
probably
I
guess
for
me.
I
would
say
that
that
would
be
a
powerful
prototype.
A
You
know
that
would
enable
us
to
then
scale
globally
and
bring
millions
of
people
to
cardano
like
so
I
would
even
I
would
even
make
it
like
a
bigger
in
in
scale
and
importance
and
because
just
getting
you
know,
spending
like
half
a
million
dollars
and
getting
like
a
few
hundreds
or
thousands
of
people
you
know
might
not
be.
A
I
would
also
try
to
quantify
it
like
you
know.
You
know
you
can
try
to
figure
out
like
how
many
people
can
be
addressed
by
it
like
what
kind
of
what's
the
size
of
the
economical
impact,
it
would
influence
them.
A
I
think
that
would
impress
and
delight
cardano
participants
who
are
who
like
like
numbers
and
and
like
like
quantities,
and
so
so,
if
you
can
quantity
quantify
some
of
this
stuff,
it
will
be
great
success.
How
success
looks
like
comment?
You
know
this
is
educate,
help
and
onboard
others.
A
A
Great,
so
I
guess
my
final
comment
to
you
is
seems
like
you:
should
you
should
reach
out
to
some
someone
on
the
italo
prison
team
and
talk
with
them
and
and
so
sorry,
and
and
maybe
they
can
give
you
some
insight
about
how
the
commun
the
community
side
of
the
challenge
is
complementary
to
the
more
the
iohk
effort
around
it,
and
maybe
that
would
and
also
if
you
get
them
on
board
and
the
challenge
is
actually
like
sponsored
by
at
the
atala
team.
A
Or
you
know
you
have
like
a
teammate
as
a
co-co-proposer
that
would
you
know
that
would
increase
the
likelihood
of
it
getting
voted
in
by
a
lot.
I'm
sure
so
might
be
what
might
be
worth
the
effort.
A
I
mean
I
I
yeah,
I'm
kind
of
you
know
I
mean
I
could
do
it
for
hours
honestly
we
could
actually,
maybe
we
should
you
know
like.
Maybe
we
should
have
a
little
forum
of
it's
not
dependent
on
me
and
my
my
time
and
my
schedule
to
for
people
to
give
each
other
feedback.
A
A
And
thank
you
everybody
here
for
for
your
drafts
and
what
I
you
know.
I
think
what
I
encourage.
You
also
submission
start,
so
you
can
already
submit
a
an
early
draft
like
let's
start
in
a
few
hours,
but
you
can
already
submit
your
early
draft
in
id
scale,
get
some
feedback
from
the
community
and
and
also
try
to
band
together.
You
know
we
can
all
work
together
to
raise
the
general
quality
of
these
these
challenges.