IPFS IPFS Camp 2019 - SciFi Fair, 7 Oct 2019

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From YouTube: Textile interview Andrew W. Hill & Carson Famer.

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See the full interview with the Textile team about their decentralized photo booth. Learn more: https://blog.ipfs.io/2019-10-03-ipfs-camp-sci-fi-fair-videos/

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A

So we here at IBF has gone 2019 where the sci-fi, fair and we've got an amazing project. Called textile. We've got Andrea and we've got Karen over here. So can you introduce yourselves and tell us a little bit more about what you're working on.

B

So today we brought two demonstrations.

B

About two demos to play with one is called textile photos, so it's a decentralized photo sharing application. It's your photo sharing and storage, so you can do long-term storage of photos. We have this shared group that people are coming up with their motor mobile app taking photos. They're.

A

Getting most of them, this is basically like, very you know, called least after him in the web, which is a field of multimedia.

B

You haven't it's very loose identities that people can have, and they can just be playful in there. The.

C

Other one is the care game so.

B

We built it literally a game of tag, so one person is it. Everybody else is just trying to stay away from the person. That's it is cryptographically they're capable of handy not over to other people. Everybody knows that they can trust it. So it's using my PFS and the p2p and and peer identity, verification. It have rose in a game and it plays over a decentralized network which is really cool, says it mister people downloading that app and then there's one person.

A

B

It's in the house, let's here so in the app will show you really big. It's like a really low fire. This is how I did my key to the game, but what hers is going to look like is it'll, be all red and if somebody.

C

And she shows that to somebody.

C

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B

Right, it's really love! Fine! That's because.

A

What you're doing is like really disseminating information to a bunch of peers that have joined a group that have broke that have joined a game that I'm part of a private group in one way- and you know this in a decentralized fashion right and that's like some algorithm that is rotating across those across those peers as well. That's selective yeah do.

B

You know that so we use this actually to teach a workshop earlier, which is showing how you could have shared databases. You could have these.

C

Identities, systems.

B

Verification and validation that people are played by those rules and all that they can do a simple game of check its. If.

A

You doing this, it's just simple use case, it's fun, but it's like a bunch.

B

C

Components building.

A

Blocks working together to build the logic behind there's a set of rules, so tell us a little bit more about how the pictures here and the photos are being stored in ipfs and how the speed is updating in real-time.

B

We have a centralized database, both threads. It's in the decentralized world, a database always a bit different than a database, but you can think.

C

Of it that way, and so.

B

Everybody, that's part of this group is joining that shared database and people post to it. That's disseminated over-fit appear to be PW plus we have sort of these gateway servers that do routing for these messages, and so you'll see it's an eventually consistent database right, so P buddy, post and then.

A

Uploaded via palace, how did that arrive here? Are using pops up by using ie disseminating that information in real time, how's that update arriving at a different, though yeah.

D

So, in this case I, actually it's my account and I've got my account logged in on the phone here and I've used that same account to login on my desktop right here, and so these two accounts are synced and they're, actually directly dialing each other over lid p2p. And this my phone is telling my desktop hey, there's a bunch of updates I think you should grab them or their content addresses. The desktop is going. Thank you very much. I'll go grab those.

D

A

Directed directly to this other node running here over and over and the p2p connection exactly.

D

Yes, in this case over yeah, although I am plugged in but that's just mature yeah.

A

So we just spoke a few minutes ago with the BNE guys so I'm loving, to see like these kind of like cross collaboration opportunities emerging, because this could be. You just said, and this happened over Wi-Fi, which means that you know you're depending on some kind of connectivity, but we really just three meters away from each other. So how can we make together? This happened over an offline first transport, which is you know, one of the features that let me to be.

A

And we need to work on because it's still not there, especially the seamless switching. So what are you plans do.

B

Part of that way that their minds actually treating the data structures right and so the first things with a decentralized data store database a lot of times as all ears are trying to maintain that database. So we're coming up with different protocols in our database so that here's to the lightweight capabilities to listen to that opens up opens up the opportunity to blue to hand off spot pasture. So you could do things like here: I'm gonna, send you one block and then you're gonna. Have it don't worry about always having to try to maintain them?

B

A

Holes are you doing like some kind of signal.

A

The user actually wants to vote a sentence right away. There is interest in exactly.

B

The next version of our friends is coming out where we repoed a lot of that stuff. What.

C

D

Planning and community feedback stage right now for threads of person to so we're actually talking to a lot of how can people participate in.

A

That, in that feedback versus.

D

Probably easiest way is to reach out on our github github.com slash textile I/o. We've got a bunch of open tickets, use cases.

D

A

Exact team is pretty accessible as.

B

I think we have three tickets open related to version two that are scoping out different pieces, that people are giving feedback about the types of threats that they want to see. He also have a slack channel a public slack channel that people are always on talking. So that's just a slack textile Dahiya, and then we have an upcoming community following up a date yet, but we'll be announcing on Twitter on slack. I want to get this kind of feedback exactly before. We finally.

A

So while we were chatting there's a new picture that just appear over there in the feed that.

C

Was bad over there nice so.

B

That's cool so that came from Ben's phone through the same system where his phone, his desktop, was able to pick it up. Balls just easy.

B

A

Awesome, yeah yeah. So is there something else that you want to say to people about textile? How can they get on board it health care? How can they start using the the textile SDK yeah, so you start building applications on top of it. What's the easiest.

B

Way, yeah, that's the big thing to point out is that we've really tried to make it one one set of solution, so we have opinions about how absolutely those so for that abstraction layer that makes it really easy to put I've given set at this IP FS in tickets to rafts yeah, and we do that cross-platform. So.

A

We just means that users of textile don't actually need to worry too much about ipfs itself and the lower like the lower api's of ipfs, because your abstract that away giving an opinionated way to build collaborative applications. Yeah.

B

Well, we feel is that you know most applications, the ability to databases that have feeds synced data. They need the ways to do encryption and have different levels of security, permission and all those things. So we just make that easy is out of the box, and then we have this cross-platform solution. So it's so it's like native and Android native iOS and we have react native and we have a JavaScript client and we're working on native web. So yeah.

C

B

So we're working that part of that and then there's a bunch of really cool things coming up, that we just would love more feedback. Well, one of the pain points that we're seeing for a lot of developers is that they want to speak to a community.

B

That's not quite there with us from Miss, Mars private keys, go and having you know, full wallets, and what our mission is is to get more people to own their data, and it doesn't mean that they necessarily have to buy the full wallet solution and so we're working on how to do curatorial wallets so having solutions out there that can actually hang onto a wallet for your users and just give them a normal sign into the system.

B

A

Exactly yeah anybody came to meet you, that's it to make it easier and reduce friction.

B

Yeah yeah and what's really cool is since our focus is getting that data onto a decentralized network using.

C

Ipfs, making.

B

It so that you can use api since the barriers to your use it as ever owning their data. Again, your users can actually just have that data. They can export it. It's not really with.

A

Us it's just the key, so they always have like that. Selfie detail that the attack rate, which is for you deeply, we in the state of affairs of the world and.

B

Then my next big piece of we're really working on is how to handle interoperability, because the biggest thing here is what you want to have your data for, so that you can get value from it like you can create new things with it, and so, if I'm going to harvest all of my photos and store them to be able to put them into new applications, and so we're really trying to map out what say.

B

Yes, your new developers can come on and use textile and already have access to photos if I give them as.

A

Long as the user.

D

Into the space of expertise would have led to technologies who want to start exploring. This should reach out on our slack channel. Twitter should get in touch because we're really interested just more use cases of facilitating.