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This talk was given at IPFS Camp 2022 in Lisbon, Portugal.
A
So
there
is
something
that
concerns
me
a
lot,
which
is
that
as
humans,
we
we
are
not
understanding
each
other
and
I
know.
This
is
not
a
new
problem
for
Humanity.
We've
been
having
it
for
for
a
very
long
time,
but
I
think
we're
getting
more
started,
and
we
have
amazing
technology
that
it's
helping
us
to
progress
at
exponential
rates,
but
things
like
better
communication,
better
sense,
making
better
meaning
making
and
better
understanding
at
getting
worse
and
I.
A
So
in
this
talk,
I
want
to
discuss
three
things:
one
will
be
Y
is
what
is
the
cause
of
that
and
how
I
can
believe,
I
believe
with
the
digital
protocol
on
top
of
apfs?
We
can
fix
some
of
these
issues
and
how
this
is
not
only
about
language
for
communication
but
language
to
extend
or
cognitive
capacities.
A
So
why
are
we
not
understanding
each
other
I?
Think
the
best
way
to
summarize
that
is
what
I
call
the
fallacy
of
share,
meaning,
which
is
we
behave
like
we
give
the
same
meaning
to
things
and
I
Define,
meaning
in
a
particular
way.
Meaning
is
all
the
information
that
we
use
to
relate
to
an
object
so
that
Sensations
emotions,
knowledge,
memories.
A
The
sum
of
all
these
experiences
around
an
object
is
what
the
meaning
we
give
to
that
object
so
take,
for
example,
climate
change.
What
does
it
mean
to
your
climate
change?
What's
climate
change
to
you,
You,
probably
even
exposed
to
over
the
years
to
conversations
to
papers?
You
have
knowledge
about
it.
You
experience
it
yourself.
Maybe
you've
seen
changes
in
weather
patterns.
All
these
compounding
information
is
what
the
meaning
that
you
give
to
climate
change,
which
means
it's
fundamentally
subjective
for
each
of
us.
A
Each
of
us
had
the
complete
experience
or
a
different
example
like
how
does
a
kid
learn?
What
are
trees
it's
exposed
over
the
years
in
its
childhood,
it
Associates
the
world
with
this
3D
object
and
the
sound
and
the
smell,
so
the
fallacy
of
share
meaning
is
basically
confusing
the
word
with
its
meaning.
A
So
interplanetary
map
the
protocol,
it's
aiming
to
make
many
or
subjective
meaning,
explicit
and
in
a
way
that
cannot
be
separated
from
the
information
that
we're
trying
to
represent
now,
meaning
it's
like
this
huge
cloud
of
in
our
heads
like
it's
a
universe.
It's
something
fuzzy
and
complex
and
ambiguous,
and
if
you
want
to
make
it
concrete
to
make
a
protocol,
we
have
to
make
it
a
little
more
tangible.
So
this
is
my
topology
of
meaning.
A
So
first,
it's
it's
objective
which
all
give
different,
meaning
it's
also
around
an
object.
It's
the
meaning
of
something
I
call
this
the
meaning
of
something
at
the
moment
in
time
by
a
particular
individual,
a
meaning
unit.
A
So
and
these
meaning
units
are
not
stand
alone,
they
are
very
complex
objects
like
a
tree
and
just
make
up
ideas
like
bark
green
photosynthesis,
my
memories
of
a
tree,
the
smell
of
a
tree.
All
these
things
can
be
themselves
conceived
as
meaning
units,
and
we
can
interconnect
them
and
the
sum
of
all
them
is
what
makes
a
tree
also
tree
evolves.
Like
sorry,
a
mini
unit
evolved
like
just
because
now
I'm
talking
about
the
tree,
I'm
changing
the
meaning
of
it,
maybe
like
very
slightly
not
in
a
meaningful
way,
but
nevertheless,
it's
changing.
A
Also
trees
has
pointers
if
I
say
tree.
Each
of
you
will
recall
an
idea
of
a
tree
a
different
one,
but
there
is
a
pointer
to
this
idea.
So
the
fallacy
of
chair,
meaning,
is
confusing
the
word
the
pointer
to
what
it's
pointing
at
and
not
only
words
can
be
used
as
pointers.
If
I
see
a
tree,
an
image
also
a
recall
a
tree
or
if
I
smell
something
right
and
we
can
conceive
everything
as
a
meaning
unit.
A
So
if
the
best
data
structure
that
I
know
of
to
represent
something
of
this
complexity,
it's
it's
a
graph.
It's
ipld!
It's
where
each
meaning
unit
can
be
represented
as
an
ipld
object,
that's
made
of
other
interconnected,
IPL
the
objects
and,
at
the
same
time
they
can
live
in
multiple
meaning
units.
At
the
same
time,
and
because
everything
is
subjective
and
our
minds
are
behind
the
subjectivity,
we
can
basically
Define
it
as
a
peer-to-peer
Network
where
our
minds
are
represented
as
nodes
and
we
can
just
exchange
meaning
as
messages.
A
So
you
may
be
wondering
okay,
but
that's
a
lot
of
data.
How
do
you
get
all
that
in?
How
do
you
make
it
actually
work
and
like
do
you
expect
just
to
plug
in
like
a
Nero
link
or
just
to
you
know,
input
lab
dictionary
for
the
rest
of
your
life,
and
the
answer
is
quite
more
simple
than
that.
You
just
need
to
make
meaning
when
you
need
it
to
be
explicit
when
you
have
conflict,
when
someone
asks
you,
what
do
you
mean?
A
It's
basically
saying
hey:
there
is
something
in
your
world
that
I'm
not
quite
getting
it.
Can
you
make
it
more
explicit,
that's
a
good
time
to
make
it
explicit
or
when
you're
trying
to
figure
out
something
by
yourself
when
something
is
not
clear
enough
when
something
an
object
of
a
study
or
you're
dealing
with
a
lot
of
complexity.
A
A
A
Now,
I
didn't
start
really
this
for
for
communication,
there
was
a
main
another
motivation
for
me.
We
just
I
want
to
improve
my
sense,
making
and
I
felt
limited
by
the
tools
that
I
was
using
it
I'm
using
all
these
digital
tools,
but
they
don't
work.
How
I
think
they're,
not
they
don't.
Allow
me
to
structure
information
and
to
transform
it
in
a
way
that
fits
my
mind
and
that's
exactly
the
reason
I'm
using
a
computer.
A
So
when
you
organize
information
around
meaning
units
and
you
connect
them
using
language,
what
you
end
up
is
basically
a
digital
representation
of
your
mind,
and
it's
quite
amazing,
because
now
every
single
piece
of
information
has
its
place,
which
is
how
you
structure.
In
your
mind,
you
don't
need
to
think
where
you
put
stuff,
you
don't
need
to
force
a
categorization
like
file
system
or
a
tagging,
because
instead,
what
you
do
is
you
write
down
how
this
is
associated
with
other
things?
So
now
never
never
anything
is
misplaced.
A
There's
everything
has
a
place,
which
means
that
I
can
add
a
lot
more
information,
which
means
I,
can
add
a
lot
more
subtleties
in
more
in
how
expressing
my
reality
and
I'm
dealing
with
either
tasks,
ideas
or
just
expressing
meaning
in
itself,
and
if
I
lose
something
I
just
get
it
back
in
the
same
way,
I
get
something
from
memory.
I
recall
it
using
associations,
I
find
like
similar
stuff
and
then
I
browse
through
this
similar
stuff
until
I
found
it.
A
A
It's
also
fuzzy
like
it's
not
clear
right,
because
we
use
it
all
in
a
slightly
different
way
and
there
is
no
Clarity
on
how
to
use
it
now.
The
blue
thing
is
how
I
use
this
word.
It's
much.
Fine
like
it's,
it's
a
smaller
semantic
feel
I
use
it
in
more
much
more
explicit
ways,
but
and
I
also
use
it
sometimes
in
places
that
the
culture
doesn't
use.
It
I
have
my
particular
way
of
using
it
foreign.
A
Now
this
is
what
happens
when
you
start
using
something
like
interplanetary
mind
map,
because
you're
making
meaning
concrete.
You
start
realizing
about
the
fallacies
of
how
you're
writing,
like
the
the
incoherence,
sometimes
you're,
using
a
word,
but
this
word
is
defined
in
a
particular
way
for
you,
but
now
you're
using
it
a
slightly
different.
A
So
this
is
my
website.
You
can
find
there
the
references
to
the
project
and
also
you
can
actually
browse
part
of
my
mind
over
the
last
year.
I've
been
this
is
still
a
in
design
phase
and
it
will
be
for
some
time,
but
over
the
last
year,
I've
been
using
it
to
write
over
a
thousand
meaning
units,
and
it's
been
a
quite
amazing
experience.
A
Most
of
the
words
that
I've
written
or
like
the
I
Define,
meaning
was
some
for
was
for
things
that
were
not
clear
enough
for
me
that
the
way
we
use
it
in
language
was
not
Concrete
in
order
to
work,
and
the
perfect
example
is
the
idea
of
meaning.
At
the
beginning
of
this
talk,
I
read
a
fine
Munich
in
my
own
way,
and
what
this
allowed
me
is
to
use
meaning
to
create
this
framework,
because
otherwise,
the
the
definitions
of
meaning
that
I
found
were
not
concrete
enough
were
fuzzy
so
by
making
it
explicit.
A
I
now
have
over
a
different,
like
maybe
10
different
words
that
include
the
word,
meaning
meaning
unit
projection
files,
future
meaning
share,
meaning
and
so
on.
So
the
system
is
being
allowing
me
to
make
my
world
more
consistent
to
meaning
making
and
not
only
that,
but
because
of
it,
I
can
deal
with
much
greater
complexity.
I
will
dare
to
say
that
at
least
an
order
of
magnitude
I
can
keep
going
and
going
and
going
and
I
have
this
system.
A
That
is
mapping
how
I
think
and
my
memory,
so
I
keep
forgetting
things
and
then
I
go
back
to
the
system.
I
realize
that
I
already
reasoned,
that
in
the
past
and
so
I
can
bring
it
back.
To
my
my
run,
let's
say,
and
while
I've
been
focusing
a
lot
in
language,
this
is
not
about
language
itself.
It's
about
meaning
and
many
things
can
be
expressed
as
meaning
we're
only
limited
by
the
digital
tools,
but
nevertheless
this
can
be
pushed
off
a
lot
and
one
extreme
example
is
in
in
the
website
itself.
A
The
user
interface
is
conceived
as
a
meaning
unit,
which
means
that
I
can
transform
how
I
visualize
the
data
and
how
I
need,
which
means
I
could
create
a
system
that
not
only
is
expressing
my
own
meaning,
but
it's
actually
visualizing
and
transforming
in
the
ways
I
need
and
because
I
can
do
this
UI
I'm
there
to
say
that
this
can
probably
extend
to
much
more
than
just
simple
user
interface
and
we
probably
can
reach
any
kind
of
computation
and
any
kind
of
application.
On
top
of
that.
A
So
that's
it.
If
any
of
these
sounds
remotely
interesting
to
you,
I
would
love
to
talk
to
you
any
ideas
you
may
have
or
collaborations
I'll
be
super
happy.
This
is
my
website
where
you
find
everything
the
Twitter
handle
and
the
telegram
handle
are
the
same.
So
thank
you.