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From YouTube: November 14, 2016 - Apps on IPFS
Description
This is the Apps on IPFS call from the November 14 Sprint. See https://github.com/ipfs/pm/issues/248 for more.
A
Today,
if
you
have
anything
to
add
to
the
agenda
the
etherpad,
sorry
the
hack
pad,
or
what
do
you
call
it?
Is
there
in
the
links?
Please
add
any
items
that
you
want
to
add,
but
the
agenda
is
to
out
give
an
update
on
orbit.
Then
there
is
something
regarding
private
east,
it's
more
of
a
prototype.
I
did
yesterday
and
then
there's
a
hackathon
coming
in
Berlin
for
distributed
decentralized,
apps
that
I
wanted
to
mention,
and
you
get
the
word
out.
A
So
should
we
start
with
an
orchid
update
yeah,
so
there's
the
link
to
the
water
board
in
the
chat
on,
and
it
is
pretty
much
up
to
date.
The
thing
is:
I
haven't
been
online
as
much
in
the
past
couple
of
weeks
since
I
was
sick
and
taking
holidays,
so
some
of
the
items
that
were
done
are
actually
gone
from
the
done
column
right
now,
but
basically
what's
happening,
is
I'm
still
working
on
improving
the
documentation
for
orbit
or
DB
hold
of
different
modules
that
we
have
it's
almost
done.
A
There
is
few
few
smaller
items
left
that
I
hope
to
finish
this
week,
one
of
them
one
of
the
big
ones
being
basically
separating
orbit
into
its
own
module
so
that
you
can
just
NPM
install
orbit
and
start
using
it,
as
as
you
would
from
your
JavaScript
programs
and
then
there's
yeah
couple
of
other
things.
I
think
the
cleaner
local
state
is
done.
I
just
need
to
vary.
That's
one,
something
you
requested
some
quite
some
time
ago.
C
B
Not
on
things,
which
is
that
this
should
probably
need
an
already
call
specifically-
and
it's
in
that
case
some
late
I
still
only
one
who
believed
that
that
said,
there's
probably
other
stuff
that
fits
on
the
EPS
on
IPS
thought.
If
anybody
else
has
anything,
I
was
coming
here
just
to
talk
a
little
bit.
I.
A
Sorry
about
that,
I
just
dropped,
don't
know
what
happened,
but
hey
we
got
new
people
on
the
call,
so
should
do
that
more
often
like
this
alright.
So
what
was
the
last
thing
that
you
heard
I
was
doing
an
orbit
update
and
then
I
got
dis
kidding.
So
let's
go
back
to
the
waffle
board.
If
you
still
have
the
link
in
the
chat,
if
not
words
again
so
what's
happening
right
now,
is
we
have
some
new
people
contributing
to
orbit
feel
bad
Theo
if
you're
listening?
A
Thank
you
very
much
for
the
work
you've
done
so
far
on
he's
working
on
the
ability
to
configure
the
demon,
I
confess
settings
at
the
start
of
orbit.
This
is
quang
you
you've
been
asking
for
a
long
time.
So
that's
going
to
be
really
sweet.
So,
like
the
the
data
folder
data
directory
for
I,
kept
as
the
addresses
bootstrap
nodes
of
what
not
you
can
you
can
edit
and
configure
those
in
the
UI
directly
and
yeah,
then,
like
I,
said,
I
was
working
on
separating
the
orbit,
toots
and
module.
A
A
The
next
big
thing
is
product
design
for
orbit
and
the
wet
version
of
orbit
I
think
I'm
actually
going
to
push
the
product
design
after
the
wet
version
so
that
we
can
get
on
the
j
sipi
stuff
working
faster,
like
landing
pops
up
in
ok,
so
I
profess,
which
is
required
for
orbit
to
be
able
to
work
again
in
in
the
browser
and
after
that,
I'll
I'll
start
with
the
with
the
product
design.
But
anyone
listening
there.
A
B
That's
about
like
where
we
are
in
our
madman
and
where
things
start
coming
us
on
and
like
that
structure
of
us
I
think
we're
a
bit
behind
another
one.
If
anything
needs
to
be
hot
or
not,
and
what
did
to
mention
a
couple
of
things
said
in
the
last
week
or
so
try
to
them
over
to
people
and
just
repeatedly
again,
the
guy
comes
up
like
people's
desire
to
want
to
be
able
to
like
try
out
or
the
on
the
web
or
trying
a
demo
on
a
computer,
we're
trying
to
demo
it
to
them.
B
If
it's
not
on
the
web,
that's
on
a
and
I
quote,
and
then
I
can't
create
two
instances
of
it.
Luckily,
so
right
now
it
is
extremely
difficult
to
demo
orbit
it
off,
and
even
when
putting
the
app
from
one
computer
into
an
unclear
it's
many
times,
it
just
doesn't
work
or
is
not
their
life
just
and
whether
it's
two
demons
managed
to
connect
or
not
managed
to
connect.
There's
very
little
information
that
organ
itself
can
give
you
to
be
able
to
live
like
this.
So
that's
my
experience
of
it.
B
So
I
mention
that
anybody
else
try
to
use
it.
It's
finding
equally
hard
challenges,
so
I
think
I,
don't
know
whether
this
is
latest
muscle
and
stuff
or
what
but
I
know
I
think
getting
all
of
that
into
place
as
soon
as
we
can
with
the
ideal
and
I
don't
know,
this
is
a
developer
experience
on
some
of
the
next
one,
but
I
love
to
be
able
to
like
have
a
working.
A
Look
totally
agreed
and
me
to
then
the
feedback
has
been
similar
from
from
other
places
as
well.
Especially
people
want
to
try
it
the
the
web
version,
because
they
don't
want
to
download
or
go
and
build
the
dab
on
and
clonite
drum,
get
up
and
so
on
on.
So
that's
kind
of
why
I'm
pulling
the
the
web
version
of
orbit
milestone
closer
and
leave
the
product
design
later
and
the
other
stuff
so
that
we
can
get
into
a
well
working
state
sooner
than
what
we
originally
planned
on
the
on
the
connectivity.
A
So
two
instances
on
on
the
same
machine.
This
should
be
fixed
when
we
get
the
configurable
login
screen
so
that
you
can
do
that.
We
we
were
checking
into
then
I
think
it
was
it's
supposed
to
work,
but
maybe
it's
not
so
I'll
confirm
that
and
see
what
what's
happening
there,
but
totally
agree,
and
that's
one
of
the
goals
for
for
that
particular
thing
is
to
make
sure
that
you
can
boot
up
two
different
instances
of
orbit
regarding
the
connectivity.
So
that's
that's
a
trickier
thing.
A
I've
been
trying
to
debug
that
before
I
went
on
holidays
and
to
hurting
my
holidays,
it's
basically
not
connecting
the
peers
on
the
pub
sub
is
not
getting
the
messages
through,
and
sometimes
it
takes
two
seconds
to
connect.
Sometimes
it
takes
10
seconds.
Sometimes
it
takes
a
minute.
Sometimes
they
don't
hear
and
connect
and
I
not
sure
how
I
can
start
debugging.
That
probably
need
to
talk
to
Jeremy
as
to
what
is
happening
and
try
to
get
some
data
for
him
and
go
from
there.
A
But
if
you
have
any
suggestions
how
to
go
about
it,
that
would
be
great
in
the
meanwhile,
what
I
did
was
I
added
a
public
orbit
note,
so
that
anybody
can
connect
it
and
I
kind
of
force,
all
the
clients
to
download
one
particular
hash.
That
just
says
app
equals
orbit,
basically,
so
that
maybe
that
helps
with
the
discovery
but
I'm
not
sure
how
exactly
it
works.
So
I
I
need
to
debug
more
to
see
what
what's
going
on
and.
A
B
It's
really
tricky
that
it
just
doesn't
show
any
feedback
whatsoever.
You
know
on
whether
or
not
you're
connected
to
anyone
in
the
same
channel
or
anything
I
think
that
would
help
people
who
understand
what's
going
wrong
right
now,
it's
just
like
completely
right
and
so
complicated
because
all
of
the
demon
and
become
pain
in
the
path
that
are
all
in
like
ran
out
quick
and
very
internet
kisses.
So
even
for
people
who
live
like
know,
what's
going
on
Facebook
it,
it's
just
almost
impossible.
B
A
Allah
I'll
see
what
we
can
do
you
about
the
debugging,
but
at
the
same
time
like
debugging
my
side,
I
would
love
it
to
be.
I
would
love
it
to
work
right
and
I
think
right
now
I'll
need
to
find
some
kind
of
workarounds
to
to
make
sure
that
there
is
some
kind,
some
kind
of
data
about
what's
happening.
A
B
B
A
Then
it
is
probably
dropped
at
some
point,
because
I
didn't
know
that
that
existence
exists.
That
would
be.
That
would
be
actually
like
one
of
the
things
that
would
make
it
easier
to
to
give
some
kind
of
feedback
on
in
the
client
to
know.
If
you
know
you're
connected
to
anyone
or
not
I'll
less
Jeremy
about
it
and
see
where
it's
at
yeah
I
think.
B
The
general
think
here
is
that,
for
all
these
kinds
of
things,
just
orbit
itself
should
be
able
to
tell
you
what
appears
to
be
going
wrong.
You
should
have
its
own
internal
model
of
like
what
is
happening
and
how
to
set
up
to
the
user.
This
is
a
you
know,
there's
a
big
difference
between
hey.
It
can't
connect
to
anyone.
Yet
it's
at
work
versus
I
can't
find
a
specific
I
can't
find
anybody
else
in
this
channel,
and
so
all
of
those
things
are
different.
A
A
D
A
The
how
orbit
DB
works
at
the
moment
is
that
there
is
no
notion
of
access
right
so
that
you
know
like
you
can
write
to
this.
But
you
cannot
write
to
this
or
the
other
person
kind
of
right
to
this
log
like
everybody
can
go
on
orbit
channel
and
and
join
it
basically.
So
what
I've
been
thinking
is
how
can
we
make
some
kind
of
access
control
that
you
know
we
can
limit,
who
can
pose
to
what
or
who
can
join
a
channel?
And
this
I'm
talking
about
orbit,
but
under
the
hood?
A
It's
the
same
for
all
the
databases
in
in
orbit
DB.
So
I
made
a
quick
prototype
yesterday,
which
basically
gives
us
a
possibility
to
have
the
so
the
data
structure
merged
in
a
way
that
only
specific
keys
can
can
write
to
a
specific
database.
So
if
I
have,
if
I
create
a
database
in
order
to
DB-
and
I
say
only
this
key
can
write
to
it,
then
only
that
key
can
write
to
it.
A
So
when,
when
I
have
the
the
private
key
I'm,
the
only
one
to
to
be
able
to
write
to
it's
not
very
far
yet
and
I'm
you're
not
sure
if
it's
the
right
solution,
but
it's
kind
of
nice
to
see
that
you
know
will
will
be
able
to
do
that
at
some
point.
So
one
of
the
things
I've
been
asking
for
a
long
time
is
the
key
story.
I'm
not
sure
that
exactly
does
what
we
need
to
and
so
on,
but
possibly
so
just
wanted
to
share
that,
but
it
might
be
possible
one.
B
But
you
should
be
able
to
store
keys
yourself
for
now,
like
don't
really
don't
wait
on
Easter
yeah,
you
know
yeah
usually
looking
some
case
yourself
for
now
you
have
some
regular
or
by
later,
and
that
pinky
told
me
private
face.
I
think
you
mean
red
like
right,
right
access,
controlled
peace,
because
anybody
can
also
be
done
right
or
not
affected
yeah,
exactly
they're
not
encrypted
I've
it
I
bit
specifically
me
means
things
that
are
imperative
as
well.
Yeah
yeah.
A
Yeah
I
think
right.
Access
keys
is
much
better
than
private
keys
because
it's
not
really
private
you're
right,
but
yeah.
So
we'll
see
where
that
goes.
If
there's
anyone
out
there
interested
to
to
work
on
this
kind
of
a
problem,
contact
me
or
or
anyone
on
the
IPF
s
community
and
we'll
get
you
sorted.
This
is
this
a
nice
problem
to
to
work
on?
Oh
so,
then,
the
berlin
hackathon,
so
there
will
be
a
as
far
as
I
understood,
a
global
theorem
hackathon
on
the
weekend
of
25th
to
27th
of
November.
A
So
in
two
weeks,
and
as
part
of
that
there
will
be
a
local
hackathon
in
Berlin,
which
is
about
hacking
on
distributed
decentralized,
apps
using
theorem
or
other
Curt
severe
in
technologies,
and
some
of
the
ideas
developers
will
be
dead.
So
if
anyone
out
there
is
interested
in
that
kind
of
event,
will
post
some
information
on
the
hippest
community
and
get
your
input
and
come
join
us.
A
B
Need
a
call
from
orbit
specifically
that
runs
like
the
other
calls
where
we
go
over
the
road
map.
We
talk
about
that
what's
coming
and
we
make
a
venue
for
everyone,
who's
interested
in
the
development
orbit
to
come
in
and
discuss
it
only
15
minutes,
and
it
makes
sense
to
have
a
short
haul
and
end
it
early
on
with
the
place
right
now
with
yours.
Later,
you're
only
really
soliciting
morbid
things,
so
we
should
just
say
that
other
ways,
other
people
are
not
just
going
to
come
in
and
have
other
app
states,
because.
B
Tonight,
because
hang
out
as
we
used
to
have
it
I'm
performing
organs
like
now
graduate
into
this
phone
large
thing
and
there's
a
lot
things
that
are
going
on
there
after
this
in
when
there's
stuff
that
there's
some
orbits
of
being
a
public
thing
go,
there's
probably
be
related
things
where
users
may
come
in
with
questions.
There's
a
nobody
giving
from
a
defense
to
right,
there's
a
promise
out
there,
and
so
no,
you
don't
watch
today,
but
I.
Think
in
the
coming
weeks.
We'll
have
a
lot
more
I'm.
A
Fine
with
that,
the
idea
someone
proposed
that
some
weeks
ago,
when
we're
talking
about
bringing
the
app
so
I
kept
his
back
and
as
far
as
I
understood,
it
was
a
request
also
from
the
community
to
bring
the
apps
hang
out
back.
I'm
find
both
ways.
I
would
love
to
have
the
the
forum
for
everyone
in
the
community
to
talk
about
abs
in
general
and
not
just
about
orbit.
A
E
I
can
I
can
try
to
gauge
that
I,
it's
not
quite
clear.
What
is
the
best
form
for
seeking
like
for
trying
to
do
that?
Litmus
test
right
now,
there's
in
my
interactions
with
people
building
apps
on
I
PFS,
almost
all
of
them
I
end
up,
encouraging
them
to
look
at
our
big
TV.
So
it
that's
part
of
why
I
like
to
me
that
title
made
sense,
because
it's
if
you
say
that
the
call
is
about
orbit
and
people
who
are
trying
to
use
orbitz
DB
might
assume.
E
Oh,
that's
not
for
me
when,
actually
those
people
should
be
on
this
call
and
should
be
following
the
development
of
Orca,
TV
and
hearing
about
pub
sub
and
like
what's
the
status
of
making
pups
of
work
and
hear
the
things
that
over
to
be
like
is
like
improving
on
right
now,
like
all
of
those
things
are
things
that
a
large
majority
of
people
doing
absent
on
a
PFS
will
want
to
be.
We.
A
It
either
way,
but
let's
try
to
get
a
some
kind
of
feedback
from
the
whole
community
because
we're
on
the
cue
people
and
see
if
there's
interest
in
apps
in
general
and
and
then
do
an
additional
or
like
keep
this
as
apps
and
and
then
do
orbit
separately,
or
we
change
the
name
of
this
session
to
two
orbiting
yeah.
Does
this.
D
E
That
was
that
was
sort
of
my
thinking
if
this
gets
too
crowded
with
other
things
that
are
not
orbit,
that's
a
great
problem
to
have,
and
then
we
can
figure
out
how
to
schedule
for
it.
My
so
I
agree
with
that.
With
pictures
point
there,
the
the
thing
I
was
going
to
ask
us
like:
where
do
we?
Where
would
where
should
I
pose?
This
question
to
the
community?
Should
I
put
it
in
I,
PFS
/
community
and
like
open
a
github
issue
to
ask
that?
E
Is
it
something
that
would
would
go
into
discourse
if
this
course
was
going
full
force
right
now
is
this:
if
we
were
a
community
that
used
a
mailing
list,
it
would
go
on
the
mailing
list.
Irc
is
definitely
not
the
right
place
because
then,
if
someone's
not
logged
into
IRC,
they
won't
see
it
picture
so.