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A
B
A
Everyone
welcome
to
the
ipfs
we
tackle
for
number
30
September
2019
I
am
18.
Brain
I
will
host
you're
going
to
have
well
a
round
of
to
use
the
announcements
if
anyone
types
fiercely
into
the
agenda
and
if
not
then
era
from
Lucca
centralize
is
going
to
tell
us
all
about
the
work
that
she's
doing
to
bridge
different
to
centralize
communities
and
and
just
generally
make
us
all
talk
to
each
other.
And
so
do
you
stick
your
name
in
the
doc
here
attending,
because
otherwise,
how
do
you
know
can
I
get
a
note-taker
poo.
B
B
So
why
don't
I
start
with
telling
you
guys
a
little
bit
about
the
history
of
the
project?
Perhaps-
and
let
me
share
so
me
and
a
couple
of
friends
so
about
6
years
ago.
I
think
this
was
just
after
the
Snowden
revelations.
We
started
a
list
of
alternative
internet
projects
and
we
got
hundreds
of
different
projects
listed,
and
this
has
kind
of
been,
as
you
can
see,
there's
been
over.
500
commits
lots
of
contributors.
B
So
it's
really
this
amazing
crowdsourcing
effort
to
show
that
there's
lots
of
different
alternatives
that
do
exist
and
we
kind
of
individually
knew
a
lot
of
amazing
projects
that
were
happening,
often
in
kind
of
basements
and
people
when
talking
to
each
other
and
weren't
sort
of
necessarily
thinking
about
business
models
or
user
experience
or
adoption,
and
we
wanted
to
get
people
to
start
collaborating
more,
but
also
thinking
about
some
of
those
things.
So
we
started
doing
I
think
found
interviews
which
I
will
show
you
here.
B
We
also
organized
a
conference
back
in
2015
and
which
was
this
really
incredible,
wonderful
time
where
we
actually
got
lots
of
different
people
together,
but
was
quite
small
as
being
focused
on
collaboration
and
focused
on
things
like
tales
from
the
vegan
movement.
Thinking
about
how
do
you
push
forward
sort
of
unpopular
ideas
and
and
kind
of
get
people
interested
how
to
talk
about
these
things
differently,
but
also
sort
of
thinking
about
what?
B
B
Now
we
are
doing
v
digests
as
well,
so
on
the
on
the
kind
of
on
the
blog
we
kind
of
just
telling
people
about
various
different
events
and
talks
that
we
thought
were
interesting,
as
this
is
something
that
heaven
is
kind
of
really
leading
on
helping
and
reviewing
different
projects.
And
again
this
is
quite
broad.
B
So
so
this
is
kind
of
mean
thing
as
as
all
you
mentioned,
the
September
reader
just
went
out
a
couple
of
days
ago,
which
mentions
the
rebooting,
the
trust
conference
Activity
pub
various
different
discussions
and
debates
about
security.
About
also
that
we
had
a
whole
discussion
about
sort
of
trolling
and
how
do
you?
How
do
you
deal
with
different
stuff?
What
Facebook
is
saying
about
date,
billeting,
privacy,
knitter,
etc,.
B
Keep
going
amazing
so
so
to
talk
about
I
mean
people
come
I.
Think
there's
a
there's,
a
really
interesting
discussion
about
what
does
decentralization
mean,
and
so,
when
we
sort
of
started
six
years
ago,
no
one
really
talked
about
decentralization
very
much
or
they
did,
but
in
very
specific
communities
and
I.
Think
in
the
last
few
years,
decentralization
has
become
more
of
a
buzzwords
and
obviously
the
kind
of
rise
and
cryptocurrencies
has
encouraged.
That
and,
however
I
think
there
is
this
really
important
aspect
about
thinking.
What
does
success?
Look
like?
B
What
do
we
actually
measure?
Well,
you
know.
What
do
we
care
about
like
is
decentralization
good
in
and
of
itself?
Is
it
a
means
to
some
other
end
and
what
others
ends,
and
how
do
we
know
if
we're
making
progress?
So
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
really
interested
in
is
trying
to
kind
of
bring
people
together
to
talk
about
these
things
like
talk
about.
What
is
it
that
we
care
about
like
I,
know
that
I
care
about
fairness
like
I
I?
B
Don't
I,
don't
I,
get
very
upset
and
frustrated
using
Facebook
I,
get
very,
very
irritated
by
Google's
reCAPTCHA
forum.
That
just
feels
like
it's
punishing
me
for
using
browsers
that
can
look
very
striking
and
cookies
and
then
I
have
to
constantly
put
it
in
just
to
do
search
so
I.
Don't
even
use
Google
search
anymore,
because
it
just
irritates
me
too
much
and
I
have
to
I
have
to
use
tax
outgo,
and
you
know
I
care
about
sort
of
giving
people
greater
control
of
the
tools
that
they
use
so
and
what
you
know.
B
What
does
that
mean?
What
does
that
mean
in
terms
of
hacking
of
all
projects?
What
does
that
mean
about
having
smaller
communities
and
having
digital
infrastructure
and
digital
services
that
are
that
are
shaped
by
those
communities
and
and
how
do
we?
How
do
we
measure
that?
How
do
we
sort
of
see
progress
over
time?
So
I
think
this
is
one
thing
around
kind
of
metric
success
like
you
know
why?
Why
are
we
doing
this?
What's
the
what's
the
bigger
vision
that
I
think
are
really
interesting
questions
and
then
there's
also
well.
B
What
are
the
different
components
about?
How
do
we
get
there
and
a
couple
of
different
sort
of
campaigns
and
conversations
that
we
are
having
at
the
moment?
One
is
very
much
around
interoperability
and
open
standards,
so
quite
soon,
I
will
be
putting
something
out
around
while
talking
about
open
protocols
and
talking
about
how
email
works,
but
instant
messaging
doesn't
and
events
in
social
media
don't
work
you
have
to.
You
have
to
have
a
Facebook
account
to
be
invited
or
attend
a
Facebook
events.
You
have
to
have
a
Twitter
account
to
interact
with
people
on
Twitter.
B
You
have
to
have
a
LinkedIn
account.
However,
it
should
be
possible
to
have
an
account
with
somebody
else
where
you
prefer
the
terms
and
conditions
of
that
service
without
losing
access
to
your
friends
without
sort
of
facing
the
consequences
of
social
isolation.
And
what
does
that
look
like
in
practice?
What
does
that
mean,
and
how
can
we
make
that
happen
like?
What's
the?
Is
it
sort
of
build
alternatives
and
get
them
adopted
enough
and
that
other
companies
have
to
use
them?
B
Is
it
legislation
and
what
has
been
tried
before,
because
you
know
I
was
with
w3c
and
we
wrote
some
things
and
some
standards
around
social
web
standards
that
haven't
been
adopted,
obviously
by
the
likes
of
Facebook
and
Twitter,
they
didn't
show
up.
They
didn't
come
to
the
in
during
the
conversations,
but
a
lot
of
the
decentralized
Ecosystem
are
adopting
them.
So
Activity
pub
has
been
adopted
by
a
whole
range
of
applications.
B
B
Company,
what
information
do
we
keep
and
how
does
that
work?
How
can
we
make
a
better
friendlier
more
privacy,
preserving
secure
user
experience
happen
across
different
applications
if
we're
aiming
to
use
an
ecosystem
of
different
applications
as
opposed
to
the
sort
of
one
monoliths
that
is
trusted?
How
do
you
do
trust
if
you're
not
relying
on
a
really
big
brand
like
Facebook
to
hold
that
trust?
How
does
trust
happen
in
in
smaller
things
and
I
think?
Another
third
thing
is
obviously
adoption.
B
How
do
we
move
from
and
I
think
we
all
probably
exist
in
a
bit
of
a
bubble
where
everyone's
really
excited
about
all
these
sort
of
decentralized
projects
and
services
and
they're
really
cool,
but
the
majority
people
don't
know
about
this.
They
understand
it
and
don't
know
why
it
matters
and
don't
know
what
it
means
practically
like.
What
are
the
different
benefits
and
to
what
extent
can
more
decentralized
approaches
bring
benefits
that
people
care
about
and
to
whom?
So
thinking
about
who
are
going
to
be
the
users?
Is
it
going
to
be
companies?
B
Is
it
going
to
be
the
jewels?
Is
it
gonna,
be
governments,
so
really
centralized?
Helps
sort
of
convene
some
of
those
in
conversations
we
have,
we
have
a
newsletter
and
we
keep
meaning
to
have
a
meaningless,
but
mostly
we
keep
meaning
to
promote
other
people's
discussions
and
mailing
lists
and
I
haven't
heard
of
that.
Many
that
you
guys
should
obviously
show
what
you
guys
have.
B
Looking
at
collaborations,
thinking
about
how
do
we
take
things
forward,
putting
together
sort
of
various
plans
and
probably
further
workshops?
I
know,
there's
a
there's,
a
couple
of
organisations
that
are
really
interested
in
running
the
really
centrist
campaign.
Sorry,
the
interoperability
campaign
with
me
there's
a
lot
of
work
around
identity
happening
with
governments,
increasingly
thinking
they
need
to
have
a
more
sort
of
self,
sovereign
or
decentralized
or
other
kind
of
privacy-preserving
approach,
yeah
any
thoughts,
any
questions.
C
B
C
Wondering
do
you
see
any
significant
progress
you
mentioned
that
we
live
in
a
bubble
like
we're
focused
on
decentralization
all
the
time
did.
What
progress
do
you
see
if
any
towards
these
goals,
that
the
fuzzy
goals
of
more
control
for
users,
less
control
for
no
less
ill
defined
control
for
giant
corporations.
B
B
You
know,
using
people's
phone
number
that
you
know,
Facebook
asks
it's
useful,
two-factor
authentication
to
essentially
and
using
and
selling
out
to
advertisers,
so
various
things
are
coming
out
which
have
made
people
realize
okay.
This
is
a
this
is
a
company
that
that
you
know
basically
does
what
it
wants
and
gets
away
with
it,
because
they're
so
huge,
and
if
you
think
about
it
again,
they
have
like
one
point:
six
I
think
billion
active
users
that
log
in
every
single
day
it's
like
a
fifth
of
the
population
of
the
planet.
I
mean
that's
insane.
B
B
Kind
of
adverts
are
really
big
on
Facebook,
so
it's
all
these
kind
of
things
like,
oh,
if
you're,
if
you're
a
black
but
by
texting,
you
know
text
this
number
to
vote,
don't
leave
the
house
it'll,
be
nice
and
easy,
like
these
kind
of
adverts,
kind
of
go
out,
go
on
Facebook
and
Facebook,
obviously
working
to
remove
that.
But
the
the
reach
of
the
that
platform
is
terrifying
and
their
ability
to
sort
of
subvert
things,
and
even
Facebook
is
sitting
there
saying
well.
B
So
much
of
regulate
us
so
I
think
that
the
awareness
is
there
and
a
lot
of
politicians
and
people
are
sitting
there
thinking.
Well,
we
need
something
different,
but
they
don't
know
what,
and
very
few
people
are
at
least
in
the
mainstream,
have
very
clear,
credible
kind
of
interventions
or
solutions.
I
actually
think
that
these
do
exist
and
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
that
I'm
interested
in
is
kind
of
bringing
that
conversation
to
to
a
more
mainstream
discussion
which
is
talking
about
things
like
well.
Open
protocols
could
really
help
shift
things.
B
B
Some
adoption
has
happened
so
a
lot
of
the
projects
sort
of
when
we
looked
at
them
six
years
ago.
We're
really
really
immature
and
I
think
very
difficult
to
use
for
a
non-technical
audience,
and
that
has
shifted.
People
are
very
much
more
aware
that
design
is
important.
Usability
is
important.
There's
a
lot
more
investment,
I
think.
Obviously,
krypton
coins
have
have
really
helped
some
people
win
the
lottery
and
have
money
to
spend
on
working
on
more
usable
services,
which
is
really
really
wonderful,
like
the
French
government
have
adopted
matrix
instead
of
instead
of
protocol.
B
So
some
decisions
and
the
increasing
conversation-
that's
especially
public
money-
should
be
spent
on
open
source
and
open
things.
I
think
is
starting
to
kind
of
roll
things
into
a
direction
that
I
mean
I
would
generally
support,
but
I
think
one
of
the
one
of
the
questions
is
well.
This
is
a
this
is
a
big,
very
diverse
community
people
have
very
different
interests
and,
to
what
extent
could
or
should
we
be
pulling
in
similar
directions?
B
B
If
people
people
want
to
sell
things
online
and
almost
50%
of
all
ecommerce
in
the
United
States
goes
through
Amazon,
so
once
you've
out
competed
everybody
once
or
the
independent
chops
up
shut
down
once
everyone
is
on
Amazon
Marketplace
and
doesn't
have
their
own
supply
chains,
you're,
not
very
incentivized,
to
provide
a
cheap
good
user
experience
as
the
company,
because
very
few
people
have
other
options
like
there.
There
is
no
alternatives
and
we
are
already
getting
to
that
stage
where,
when
we're
talking
about
monopolies
in
big
tech,
there
aren't
alternatives.
B
So
it's
it's.
Not
it's
not
especially
rosy.
I
think
that
the
future
dominated
by
by
big
tech
and
with
kind
of
AI
ISM,
is
a
real
threat.
So
all
the
more
reason
to
get
much
more
radical
and
much
more
involved
and
talk
to
each
other
and
think
about
the
politics.
Think
about
the
implications
think
about
the
world
that
we
want
to
see
and
actually
push
for
it
and
work
with
a
diverse
range
of
organizations
to
make
that
happen.
B
Comes
to
the
really
centralized
2019
conference,
I
Nealon
sign
up
to
the
newsletter
and
and
also
just
get
involved.
I
think
there's
a
huge
amount
to
do.
It's
a
largely
a
volunteer
run
kind
of
community
organization
very
much
as
a
kind
of
space
for
people
to
contribute
and
get
involved.
The
projects
that
they're
interested
in
so
there's
there's
ways
in
which
to
come
and
do
fun.
Amazing,
stuff
and
there's
like
really
brilliant
people
who
care
about
this.
That
I
just
want
a
chat
with.
C
B
We
digest
and
then
sort
of
Frances
and
Ross,
who
were
around
some
six
years
ago
kind
of
are
involved
and
want
to
be
on
the
board
when
I
get
around
to
setting
up
four
boards,
and
then
people
kind
of
drift
in
and
out
I
think
so.
Some
of
the
Inspiral
kind
of
or
dig
of
people
like
my
friend
Phoebe
kind
of
journalists,
other
attack
people.
But
then
it's
it's.
It's
a
kind
of
changing
costs,
one
of
the
things
that
would
really
help
make
all
this
stuff.
More
amazing
is
money.
B
A
A
This
has
been
an
amazing
tool,
super
exciting
stuff,
going
on
we're
out
of
time,
so
I
have
to
draw
a
close
and
we
will
start
dropping
off
the
call
to
go
to
other
meetings.
Yes,
but
thank
you
very
much
for
coming
on
and
telling
us
so
you've
been
doing.
This
there's
been
the
IP
of
us
weekly
cool.
Thank
you
very
much.