IPFS Weekly Call, 29 Apr 2019

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A

Streaming us and then we'll record.

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Okay, hello and welcome to the ipfs what you call where hmm try that again.

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Hello and welcome to the ipfs weekly call where we get an opportunity find on all the interesting things that are being built by our community members and let's do some housework first and here, can you hear me? Oh yes,.

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Party two : sign in please I, just put in the doc just sign in and I'll be great and.

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Today, we're going to hear from Andre and he's going to talk about this hi, but but before we talk about discuss off', I ollie our note-taker yay. Thank you. Ollie has an announcement for us a really exciting announcement.

B

It's like a segue right hello, so one thing that we have noticed is a recurring comment. Is that it's there's a lot of surface area of ipfs and sometimes it's difficult to know where to start so you're excited about ipfs and you want to contribute huh well we're gonna, try and make that easier. I mean we're always improving the documentation, but as an extension to this call, we're gonna have an office hours so it'll be the there's. No agenda, there's just an hour before this call.

B

Every week we're gonna try and get to two people from core team to be available.

B

It'll, be me for the first few weeks until everyone gets really excited about it, because it will be the most fun call to be on and we're just gonna be available, and so, if you have started working on a PR, but you got stuck or you are just excited about IDs and want to contribute improvements to documentation or just learn a bit more about how it works so that you can contribute- and that is the call for you and I've deliberately placed it right before this call.

B

So they can segue nicely and be a stable, weekly event that that we okay beginners welcome. There is an issue: I will share it in the chat. It's on ipfs community repo, and the idea is that I will add an issue each week.

B

For, for this call and to remind people that the contrary to ours is available, the office hours event is a little any just paste a link into the chat and if there are any existing contributors here present, you want to idle on that call and help answer questions, and that would be great um if, if everyone is happy and it's contributing successfully- and there are questions, I will use the time to you to do a kind of AMA on IRC and go through the latest questions on discuss.

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Stop if I start, that's the plan, it's an experiment. Help me out I.

A

Could get an awesome experience? Thank you so much for spearheading this alley, and this is not just for programmers like. If you are into documentation, if you're into design, then you can also be part of a call and we'll figure out and we'll show you how you can start contributing so yay I actually want to give that a class yay all right. Now it is time for our main presentation.

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um Andre is going to walk us through to specify the specify is a distributed app built on top of lib p2p, where you can actually chat we're trapped in a browser, I used it. It was pretty cool. um It's pretty amazing and I can't wait to learn more about it. So without further ado Andre, please take it away.

C

Hello, everyone I'm sharing my screen condition. Can you see my screen.

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C

Okay, so before I start, I want to ask something, if possible, of course, so I put a link in in the discuss, if I sorry in in the zoom shed with the link for for the extension to be installed on your Chrome browser. So if you'll have some time, please install it so that we can play around together like in real time while I present. This classified will be awesome, really awesome. If one or two or maybe five people called join.

C

You know the real-time conversation for has test discuss if I. So the first thing that you have to do is install the Chrome extension, of course, but you also need to setup your you ports, identity on your phone and they takes that might takes a few minutes. So if you, if you already have it also, it won't take any time basically, but if you haven't please PLEASE start start it already. It might take like one to two minutes to set up an account on new port or your identity, on your port.

C

So anyway, exports here purchase yet viscous file is a real-time decentralize sheds or discussion platform for the web, and it's built on built on top of IP FS and we p2p. So we actually started these back. I would say half of 2018 and we actually launched the first version on December or maybe earlier I think November of the same year. Basically, and these application starts on start basically inside the working group of the dynamic data and capabilities, because we wanted to not only use peer path as a testing bed, but also another good.

C

If we different use cases to to further complement the the things that we are building, we are, we were building in the dynamic data and capabilities working group. So, besides having peer power, we also start to discuss if I, to have different to discuss as I said and this in this case, we opted for something like a chat, application and real-time shared application, because it has different different problems and require different solutions for some problems so yeah we started this design.

C

It took us like three to four months to actually develop it and I'm gonna actually show you and I'm just talking a bit a little bit introducing the projects to give you some time to to actually install application, but I will demo it right now using maybe ipfs for our your website. I will actually ask Pedro, which, which is here actually to join the conversation and specify, but essentially I will start. Let me just minimize this stuff here so.

C

I'm gonna actually log out so that you can see the whole the whole flow process. So once you once, you enable the extension a little balloon here appears and when you click it, it has Q's asks you to log in with your ports at the moment, I'm using I'm, using your part to provide authentication and identity. But this is something that will change in the future.

C

Actually, Moxie is working on a decentralized identity solution called Romeo's and which is basically based on the on IBM, which stands for Identity, Manager and and essentially it's it's it's a product and the specification for you to create the centralized identities based on the IDs and verifiable conditions and some other official specifications that are being built by the community and you port is actually one of the div methods that that IDM will actually use inside.

C

So for now, I'm just going to use you part to login and give me a second to open new ports and scandisk your coat.

C

Right, so it should in a few seconds.

D

C

Okay, it works not so I'm not dealing right now and I can already see two peers. Hopefully I think it's it's better. So what you thing here is basically a sidebar which which has the the comments section on the middle, and you have the ability to add new comments. So, as I said, we usually p2p and ipfs to provide the networking layer at the persistency layer as well, because the peers themselves basically discovered discover each other using the p2p and observe, but the messages that that I sent are persistent on ipfs.

C

So all of these is thing it's made possible thanks to peer base. So peer base is a beauty peer library that everyone can use.

C

I, think Pedro, Teixeira, already presented presented heat a few times and also gave some some workshops and I already gave some workshops as well, but essentially I'm using the p2p, which uses ipfs only b2b, underneath to provide a peer to peer frankly, real-time, basically to build applications on on real-time peer-to-peer, networking, not networks and, as I said, I also built this library in the peer base, which was also created in the working group.

C

The same working of dynamic data, it's very powerful and basically it allows you to to you, see our duties to provide conflict-free, replicated data structures which I'm using here. So if I type hello here, what will happen is that this data structure will be replicated to the other peer, which I think is Pedro, and if Pedro is possibly, could you apply something? So if, if better, if this works out better will reply to this comment or post. Something, and what happens is that you can see it.

C

But both comments are well replicated among among the two peers in a in a known conflict way, basically similar to the get primitives or principles because they are. There are no no conflicts unless there is, and you have to solve it, but in terms of the peel bar is there's no conflicts at all. That's why they are conflict free and thanks to the peer guys and I confess, and would be to be.

C

We are seeing, oh all, those technologies playing well together, because the comments are being persisted on, like FS ipfs, towards the actual textual comments, and then we have the the lis p2p and the peer base layer, which you know, makes the or makes the synchronization possible and the whole shape that you that we are seeing is, is a instance I said, as he R DT, we should stores the little seeds of the comments.

C

Basically they, although the low comment is sure I'm replying comment and how shiny comment from Jessica is seeds, each one is as a Content ID and they are being fetched in parallel when a new comment arrives. So in terms of the features, I can add new comments. I can reply from two comments. For instance, I can reply to comments made by Pedro I can edit. My comments like this and also I, can delete a comment so I do post their comments and I will delete it.

C

This seems to work and and I think that's pretty much it's. Basically, each discussion is unique per link or per per link. Basically, so if I go to another side song, for instance, if I go to github.com you'll, see that the comments or the discussion is empty by screen.

C

So a few references, if you are curious about how discussed if I is actually implemented and and so on, you can check the p.m. you specify wrapper on gira. It contains. Basically, a lot of information basically contains the concept. The concept the commutation about the project contains the features and so on, and also the extension themselves and the code wise lives in two different repositories.

C

So you have the the browser extension, which is you know, is the code responsible for for the actual extension, and then you have the style guide, which is a set of react components. That power is classify the discursive fiber as an extension. We did. We did it that way, because we we wanted to make also a web a web based, discuss, affine application and also we wanted to make in the future an iframe similar to the Facebook iframe, where you can copy the Facebook snippet to have comments in your website.

C

We wanted to have that as well. So we created a style guide in order to share a lot of components that we use so yeah I. Think that's basically it. If you have any questions, it will be awesome if you could ask them and I'm sorry for the lack of of you know, preparation about these, but yeah.

A

That was a very nice demo. Thank you very much.

D

A

Okay um at this point, if you have any questions or comments, if you put it in the chat, that would be wonderful.

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Any questions or comments.

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C

The same thing.

A

Gibberish Oh we'll get to Jim's question. First, the.

C

Questions are being written somewhere. Yes,.

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They are in the chat, all right, so will you be switching to Nami O's? This question is from Jim.

C

Okay, we'll be who you'll be switching to Nami. That's a question: yes yeah, so yeah we have plans to switch to nominees once once we have proof of concept. Working essentially no means what what will give us out of the box or the most. The most important things are two things. The first one is that it will allows us to sign to sign comments, because at the moment you port doesn't allow you to sign data directly. You need you need them.

C

You need some sort of back-end to do that for you or you need to use their credentials, which is not really for that purpose. But no means will allow you to sign the comments so that I can be sure that a comment is made or the authorship or the ownership of a comment is really from the person that made it.

C

That's one of the things that the other main point that noemi's will give us is that we it will allow us to use other decentralized identity solutions or, more specifically, specifically other GID methods, because there are a lot of the ID methods you port is just one. There is a lot more. There is, for instance, I actually will open if you still see mask when I opened, the ID has three, so you port, as you can see, is listed here in the table. It's here. It's just one of two, the ID methods.

C

There are a lot of a lot of the ADI methods, for instance, the various one is also very, very known in the echo system. You also have some others from Bitcoin the phone from the Bitcoin blockchain. There are also well known. We have the sovereign which also well known, and no music will allow us to integrate seamlessly with any data method.

C

You don't need to add specific code for the various types of the end methods you just do it one way and the numbers will figure out and have an adapter layer that will take take care of that, for you basically and as.

A

A question: could you tell us yeah.

C

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Upon this, what is numb? Yes, all.

C

Right all right, so I will let me point in the red book. So if you want to know more about mummies I, we have here a rapper also on Shipyard. So this is something that we are working for. Two thugs and a half I think so no muted, as IBM and IBM still exists, is still a thing. I will explain, but it all started. We not with an RFC around identity. Again this was work being done in the end of anemic data and community.

C

Some people here are familiar with it, I'm seeing and see some people some some long faces here anyway.

C

Basically, it's all started as an RFC with a proposal to make the decentralized identity more easy to do in a peer-to-peer manner more specifically to integrate with Pierre part and specify, because we really need to need identity in Essex, crucified and also in prepared Pierre part.

C

But we were having difficulties with the current solutions because they are not really beautiful, friendly and and and even if they are, they are not very user friendly because they require you to install things such as extensions, for instance, meta, mask and whatnot, and those are things that the average Internet user don't expect to do in order to interact with a rebel or a standard application.

C

So we started working on all the IBM concept and IBM stands for Identity Manager and what it really is- and I will quote here- is a unified or an attempt to create a notify digital wallet based on open standards. That's that aims to support multiple decentralized identities and no mios is a.

C

Let's say a concretization of that, because IDM is a spec and anyone can implement their own identity wallets based on this back and norm. Use is just just one of those wallets, because no meals has an design and has a front front hands with, with the specific you know, specific face in terms of looking how it looks and how it feels, but I can ayah or n any other can implement their own identity based on the same specs.

C

So if you're interested in knowing more, we have here that the PM IDM hypo, where we also have the concept. We have the specification. We have some some diagram for you to to explore, which you know entails all the all the user flows of the the lay of the wallet, and you have here the work one as well.

C

So we are currently working on this and if you are also interested in knowing or previewing how the application is looking like or the wallet is looking like, we host be weekly meeting every Monday, but but I think the next one will be on Thursday because of the the holidays implications around around a specific time in Portugal right now, but I think that essentially that this does it answer your question Jim or diet, which.

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C

To Nitin my old identity and now there's another fish. Instead, it only works for okay, I got.

E

It I got it I, just the new identity, but how to use the u.s. address.

C

What do you mean the you port application deleted your old identity stored there? Yes,.

D

You, like you, upgraded the application, maybe yeah this one's really good. All.

C

Right yeah, but the thing the thing is that you as a deity method as a recovery mechanism that allows you to recover your your identity. That's why it's asking you for the the zip code. We should you wish. You don't have.

A

Has a recovery method, sorry.

C

A

You mention that IDM has an a recovery method, so.

C

So IBM is just an aggregator of all the div methods. Your part is just one. So if you port, supports recovery methods, method and you are using an identity or you imported an identity to IDM from your part, you also be able to recall to recover your your identity through IDM but, for instance, IDM also supports other JD methods. One of them is IP ID and I PID, because it uses I, penis and I my PFS on music, and because it relies on your on the fact that your IP and s key is your identity.

C

Basically, you can't really recover it at least rightly because once you lose it, you lose it. You lose your identity, because it's compromised. Anyone can point to another. Some other documents saying who you are or something like that. So so you can't really recovered. So it's dependent on the diag method that you use when importing or when creating your identity. True, identity.

A

Awesome, thank you. Are there any other questions.

A

And my original question was related to bins, which was why are you switching away from you port and you've already answered that question, which is great so any questions before we actually break.

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C

I'm just showing some screens so, let's you can and better understand. What's what no news is sorry to.

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C

Not sure him ice cream, Oh.

A

What did you say, I.

C

Said I said that I'm just sharing as the current mock-up of of no meals for the people that Haskell about nominees. So this is how it looks like in terms of the actual quality.

C

So if you see on the left, you have your identities that you in court it all created through these wallets and you can add- and you can see your profile and and so on.

A

Thank you, okay, so we don't have any more questions. um Andre. Thank you very much for taking a time out to show us to specify and to also show us, the IDM and this lovely wallet. This is like the best wallet I've ever seen, so the one for being here I will see you next Monday and have a great week take care. Thank you very much.