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From YouTube: Jakarta EE Community Call | 2019-08-27

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Jakarta EE Update call is intended for the wide Jakarta EE community providing progress on the releases and activities related to Jakarta EE

A

So just getting into a slow start, because we're hoping that we will have a few more people Dharma in and we have Alessio and Edwin here and then we have ad brought home white, pullback, shad, nam-il and myself.

A

We are all very busy or the community rather is extremely busy with us on preparing for the Jakarta 8 release. So today we wanted just to give a quick update on where we're at and talk about major events that we're planning and that are related to very much related to and focused on, Jakarta 8 and and wrap up the call with that. So we will start with AD Brad, who is on the west coast and yeah, and if you want to take it over, that would be great I'll. Stop sharing on my hand, yeah.

B

Great, thank you all right, I apologize for not turning on the video. It seems to suck the bandwidth outta, my own poor, little laptop, so I don't know. Maybe if I was some, if I got rid of more stuff moaning, let's see if I can get this going here, all right.

B

Whatever, okay, okay, so I get to give you the project management stuff which is sort of like oh, my god, more product management. I was thinking about this, as I was trying to put this together last couple days, so we're on track for delivering all jakarta aid specifications just in case anybody has any question about it. um We should I'm I, believe we are on track for delivering this quarter. The full.

B

This will include the full text of the platform, full profile and web profile specifications, and then we have a reviewed text javadocs and revived api jars for all the rest of the components that go on which car de8 that just in itself was isn't required, a lot of coordination, a lot of community effort and a lot of work by a lot of people. So I'm salted into this presentation a few names. I don't want anybody to feel like I'm sliding them.

B

These are just a few people that that I chose to pick out of the crowds here and- and if I you know, if you feel like you did a lot of work- and I didn't mention you- I apologize in advance for that.

B

So each specification will consist of a it's document, an api release which will be a binary jar, Java Docs and the source code will consist of a TCK and a verification of a compatible implementation, and this is all delivered under the gnu jacquard ee8 specification process, sorry to Carly's pacification process in terms of building out all these technologies, a few names came to mind for people that you know I, think really I, wouldn't that we wouldn't have been able to UM to accomplish this.

B

I, not sure I spelled this evening right, but anyway, Demetri Steve Ivar on Yantra pol, really you know they helped pull a lot of things together from you know, various panics annex that we that occurred along the way in terms of the specification process I think it was touch-and-go, but we are on track to have those all released this quarter. The ballots for all specifications are currently running at least that's what I was told.

B

I didn't actually go check it, but I'm trusting that I was represented correctly to me and if anybody is interested in watching you know or sort of observing the balloting, I'm sure it's dull, but you can join this. Some public list, Jakarta, not EEE spec at eclipse.org and then I also include the the URL for it, and you can subscribe to that list.

B

Anybody posts, you know their ballots with questions or with comments or whatever the specification themselves will become available at the Jakarta specifications website that this I wanted to show this, but unfortunately there isn't much there right now, except some. You know some templating work, so I think just bookmark that we can't actually publish them until the ballots are approved. So you know stay tuned like the last ballots started yesterday, and the battle period is two weeks. So look for a lot of activity as soon as these ballots start completing their ballot duration.

B

Let's see I will release eclipse, Lasseter's 5.1. Well, actually we're not gonna release it. We will certify that Eclipse classes. 5.1 in a full and web profile is qualified as a compatible implementation and what that platform so look at this I can fix this right here. Maybe I could fix those ready, compatible implementation platforms and I. Think they're I'm told that there are other implementations in the works. I don't want to steal anybody's thunder, but do watch for announcements. I suspect that there will be.

B

You know some other products that will jump in as soon as the either just wild ballots or are closing, or shortly thereafter, with their announcements about their projects and products.

B

This couldn't have been done without a lot. You know the entire community was really sort of focusing on this right. This is all the specification work three days a week, working on the specification committee. Extra meetings for project planning- all just my inbox- is just destroyed with all in all this in email about you know this or that or these questions or these things that need to be fixed.

B

Thank you to David Blevins, to Scott, stark Bill Shannon are John and Kevin Sutter I. Think for me the thing that I'm most proud about you know these guys did a lot of work and they're. You know it's not or Oracle Oracle on this list hum you know. So that was really you know. Our goal was to get the community engaged with this and right now, that's all looking pretty good I'm.

B

You know I'm very thankful for all the work that these people have done and and everybody else you know and I just again, I'm just pulling out some people that I think we're particularly vocal or or struck me as doing work.

B

This is pretty much the same slide as last month. You know, what's in the TCK bundle right, it contains a TCK, it contains a bunch of documentation and it also contains an exclude list. We, you know we we will publish all of these under the specifications section of the Jakarta website and these will be become the normative tcks for everybody to use moving forward for the duration of for as long as Gerda lives, new specifications will be coming out and eventually they will find their way to this to this specification site.

B

So if you look at the pull requests, I think there's 73 outstanding, pull requests, there's two for every specification so and I said: there's a point: workout right, but I think there's a few extra PRS in here. But you know that's a lot to keep track of. You know in a hat talk to the community for managing to get all these things done, for managing to keep track of all of them and and- and you know, even finding the ones- oh crap- we forgot about this- we forgot about that. You know it's.

B

We managed to I, think we've managed to pull it off. I hope, I'm, not you know, jumping to a conclusion. Yet um a couple things about the TCK setup right, lass, TC gays themselves. Last month, I had a couple of links about how to use how you can actually set up the tcks I did want to kind of show you you know in case you're, actually using TC gays or looking at any of the work that we've done when you're looking at the tcks I just brought this up as an example.

B

This is the test, runner that runs the standalone tcks for all of the Eclipse GlassFish 55.1, and what you can see is we basically run a build. That's what this little build check marks here and then we paralyze all of these TC standalone tcks and run them. Essentially, we allow the the Jenkins job manager to to run these all in parallel. So one of the things that you might say is well okay, great.

B

We figured out what got run well, you select, you can select any of these TCK names, and you know we elected early on in this project, not to change any of the names from what they were before, but that'll be something we can do in the next prize in the next cycle, and you can actually look at the test output- it's not very exciting, but if you're trying to debug something, if you look at the complete log I'm not going to bore you with that right now.

B

But if you look at the complete log, you can see that the they you can see where all the tests are they're run. You can't really just sort of say: okay, oh, look an exception. That must be an error. That's not the way to interpret the test because a lot of times the tests are testing did an exception occur right. You can look at the logs and you can use those to diagnose problems.

B

If you're, you know, if you're, if you want to see what, how that test worked and and what was the you know, what were problems that someone's complaining about. In addition, you know you can use the same tool and run subsets so right, here's the same test runner running, but we only selected a few tests to run in this. This particular example we're these were some tests that we noticed some oops is in that we had to rerun late in the game all right, so so anyway, these are valuable tools.

B

I put the links in the presentation. The presentation is here in the Jakara de august 2019 community update, so you should be able to find you know get back to these references if you need them.

B

We couldn't have done this without some assistance from our the team here at Oracle I'll mention, but he you know he was what the original sort of leader of the team that was some moving, these all from internal Oracle systems to external systems running at Jenkins and then most recently, I went Joseph, anon, keychain and a couple other people out of our IDC office have been very instrumental in in getting these things done, and thank you to everybody in the community who looked at the tests who tried to run them who's.

B

You know struggled with why can't I get this test to work and what is that thing? I have to download to all those people who gave us feedback and helped strengthen the way these work. We're not done with that right. We we can make. We can always do better on all of this, but thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Alright. So, what's next right after the ballots, close you'll see a bunch of a small handful of specifications that will come through I. Think it's these four here.

B

These are specifications that are not required for jacquard ee8, but they will be needed when we start moving off of java SE 8, because they've been deprecated out of java SE, so you'll see some additional material coming from the coming to the specification community to basically bring these into the jacquard ee specification process, so it's card activation soap with attachments XML and web services and XML bindings.

B

Let's see so, I was intending to show this with the in presentation mode, and anyone see this stupid blue thing around, but so I apologize for the way it looks. But oh well, there you go so remember we didn't rerelease GlassFish right and that's because we're trying to prove the goal that you can take an existing Java EE a certified product and recertified it with some jacquard ee8 changes and and I apply for certification under jacquard EEE.

B

We have accomplished this goal with the clips GlassFish. We hope to see replication of that result with additional products, but that was a key goal. That's why there's? No new glass 55 plasters 5, something right.

B

We can now start working on new features right, so there will be. There are already some new specifications. I thought I had that up here somewhere, you know I'm clicking around on things.

B

So if you go and look at the, if you, if you and look at the jacquard ee specifications, I'm sorry that you, the EE Forge a list of all the projects, all the sub projects you'll see several projects in there that are not part of Jakarta ee8 and those will start to come to fruition and we'll start bringing those into new versions of of jacquard EEE so start thinking about what it is. You want right what what is it that people in this community are interested in in moving? You know in adding to Jakarta?

B

Maybe there's not maybe it's not new specifications. Maybe you want to help use like I, can't believe how complicated it is to do. You know pick your thing right like to simplify that it's time to start thinking about what those suggestions would be, so we could start bringing those some bringing those projects online, so just to sort of wrap up things that you can watch right. Of course you can still subscribe. You can watch all the github any of the github projects that have technologies you're interested in keep track of.

B

If you want to see what's going on in the you know, the jacquard EEE website development, you can keep. You can watch any of the projects under jacquard EEE at github coms, Leicester card EEE.

B

There's plenty of mailing lists at that I suggested you subscribe to last month. You know I hope people are using that resource. I mentioned the PRS. I already showed you that that list. If you want to watch ballots, I, don't know, maybe that's like watching grass grow, but um you can subscribe to this list. It is public and all the all the ballot. All the voting is being done in a public open forum, and you know what can you help us with right? Ok, you don't have to be a developer.

B

uh You know Java coder right. We still need help with jacquard ee websites, I guess I would say probably less than half of the GR de projects. You know the the github projects actually have a an informative website. There's a lot of work to do there to help bring other community members up to speed about. What does this project was? Is it here and how does it you know? How do you, how would I use it?

B

Have you you know if you have an opportunity to try out any of the tutorials or any of the sample code yeah, please we need people to help us diagnose those. You know that work and you know maybe figure out how to make it simpler. So more people can connect cess, Jakarta EE know so file bugs maybe try fixing something you know submit a PR and you know see you fast, try see if you can work with the community in that technology and and actually I'm. You know, I help improve the component itself.

B

The good news is now we're done with them. We're we're on the cusp of finishing with Jakarta e8, it's time to start thinking about. What's after that, I think that's all I got Tania.

B

If anybody has questions comments, somebody.

A

Else they want. Oh hi, Chad yeah go ahead, questions comments. It.

C

Is that I have a few questions? It's good to hear that everything is on track for the release of Jakarta a this quarter, but does it still mean that it is going to be completely for Jakarta? One.

B

That is the goal.

C

Yeah, but is that the same as this quarter that you mean.

B

I believe we are on track to complete before Jakarta and on the online stream. Maybe that's what you're talking about yeah.

C

Accidently, but they also scurriers, if you meant that so thanks Enid.

B

We do mean a we. People really worked hard to try to make that deadline. I know.

C

B

Can't guarantee it because there's nothing like you know some some, you know p1 problem jumps up, but that is our goal and we are. We still are on track all.

C

Right second question in the passer has been talked about: the cost fish 5.2 released with the new AP ice, but you know you're now saying that's not going to be necessary. I.

B

Didn't say it's not necessary for Jakarta ee8, but we we do. You know we. That is something that we can deliver right. We don't need it for EE, a that's the main point I'm trying to make here right, but that you know once we're past the Jakarta ee8. You know hurdle. We can do a 5.2 with you know, as long as it passes all the compatibility requirements that we can make new releases. Okay,.

C

Thanks Dutton.

B

Okay, anybody else.

A

Okay, thank you very much ed, um so I think on our agenda. The next item is update from Shabnam, so I will for some marketing activities. So I will ask.

D

You can see my screen right, yeah.

A

Yeah, we can see a creeper, so there.

D

Are a number of activities that we are going to do on communities? We have to celebrate the release and also recognize the communities effort around this release. So we are going to issue a press release on September 10th that will recognize dedicated committee members, vendors and everyone who has come together to make this happen. So we plan to promote certified Jakarta ee8 compatible implementations, which we expect to be GlassFish, 5.1 and other may be other compatible implementations so watch out for announcements, and we are also working on a page in Jakarta Jakarta.

D

That EE is going to be a hub for the community to get all information and updates about everything ruling party II.

D

So this is a preview, but it's a work in progress, so it will link to specifications compatible products and over time you will add video interviews with the community members and also we worked with the leading members of the community to author and ebook fulfilling the vision for open source cloud native Java that surprise community's vision for cloud native Java. The significance of this event in releasing Jakarta EA and also provides committees perspective of the future of cloud native Java collaboration and also, at this point of time, between eclipse foundation, ourselves and the community.

D

We are expecting between 10 to 20 blogs that you go out on September, 10th and thereafter, and echos foundation is also going to have a strong presence representing Jakarta, EE micro profile and other part projects at code, one we are going to be at booth, 3, 2, to 8.

D

We encourage of the community to committee members to come and visit us there, and we are also planning to have a cloud native Java, coming in reception at code Vaughn on September 17, to mark the celebration of Jakarta eh release and also recognize the communities there first around micro profile. So we will update you once we have more information about this to share.

C

D

Right so I think that is it.

A

Okay, so let me just on my end: I want to provide update on the Jakarta one live stream as well as a little bit on Eclipse, con Europe and particularly with regards to community related events. So moving into just a short update on this Jakarta one live stream, as I hope. Everyone knows is planned for the September 10. We're still looking for people to register and registration is open, I'm showing the the site. Here. It's really easy to register.

A

So please have a look right now. I just want to point out that we're close to 500 registered attendees, so that is really exciting and interesting and want to invite everyone. If you see any particular question here any particular session here that you would be interested in- and you have questions with regards to that session, it would be I would welcome you to observe to actually post your questions and ask questions in this section.

A

So you know that way we can the the the presenters can answer online or during their presentation or after the presentation and so on. So hopefully, everyone registered for Jakarta one live stream and yeah. Well, we'll see you there, another extremely important event for for us and Eclipse Foundation is Eclipse conure ap'. We already shared the information where it is and we hope that you all registered booked your accommodations and and mark your calendars.

A

We're actively working on the community related events and I just want to quickly show you, and here is the link to the Eclipse. Sorry for the cloud native community events and the wiki page there you can see what we're kind of working on and what we would like to happen on that day. So please have a look, provide us suggestions.

A

There is a suggestion section here you can see who is involved in organizing this event and if you are interested to attend, please let us know and sign up here at the attendees section of the wiki page I would love to know how many people would be present there and we would love to make sure that we're ready for for the the people to you know, prepare the room and do all the logistics up front.

A

So that is pretty much everything that I have for the events that were planning in the near future from the Eclipse Foundation perspective.

C

A

Go ahead, please.

C

Let go what was so much beneath you I, don't.

A

Think I'm not sure if this is intended for us to hear but I do hear someone's talking. Is there any question.

C

A

Don't think so: okay.

C

A

Any other comments or questions, or as we as I, was saying in my email, considering that we're really focusing on work related to the Jakarta he 8 release, we wanted just to provide a quick update and and give you a heads-up on the progress.

A

If there are no questions, we will close the call at this point and we will talk to you in the near future.

A

Ok, so thanks so much everyone and we'll be in touch. I. Think, ok, see ya.