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Hi everyone. I hope everyone can hear us, um here's the little eclipse foundation team uh for jakarta ee, and this is a um summer version of the update call. So we we are actually hoping that uh most of you had found some time to um hit some beaches or relax or or enjoy um uh the the nice weather in at least in the upper hemisphere.

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um uh But for all of you that are in the lower hemisphere, uh you know you're, um hopefully avoiding covet and you're, enjoying a little bit of a cool weather as well. So um uh knowing that this could be a little bit um less attendant call, as always we're recording and we're hoping that you will have a a chance to um review um the recording and and check out, uh what's what's new for this month, as always, um we're here to help you out with any questions or concerns.

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So do let us know uh do let us know if this informative version of the uh and video update updates on jakarta e is helpful and how we can further uh tailor it and change it. So um it could be more informative and more inviting for people to join. So, as always here with me, uh is uh shabnam and evar, and I'm pretty sure you know uh them quite well so um today we'll try to um take you through uh the um some of the updates. So before we go any further I'll just share.

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uh What's we planned for today's call, it is always the same file in our community folder, and this is kind of a little bit of a welcome to everyone and and giving people additional chance to dial in so eva, along with kevin sutter will help out to uh uh uh will. Let us know what is going on with jakarta eve, release, ducati 9 release and uh what are the changes?

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um Neil patterson will talk about some of the um marketing marketing updates. Neil is also a chair of the marketing committee call um and then uh ivar shabnam, and I will provide some updates from the eclipse foundation and uh hopefully, we'll have plenty of time to answer any of your questions or concerns.

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um As always, please do leave your um questions into the uh or comments uh into the chat, or there is a ask a question section and yeah. uh Let us know so, eva nam. Anything from your end, I I kind of took a little time too.

B

No, that was good hi. Everyone welcome to the jakarta community hall.

C

Yeah, I'm not nothing bad either. You did a good job.

A

Yeah, okay, I like when I do a good job so um eva. uh Let me I'll drop shalnom off temporarily I'll pull kevin in, so uh he can participate into in in our updates. uh uh With regards to jakarta e uh nine release, and uh at the same time, if I see kevin, I see kevin.

A

And you can start walking us through.

C

Yeah so well welcome kevin. So um I hope I'm not hijacking your uh kind of your city in here but doing the update. Usually it's you doing it, but uh I'll help out and just chime in whenever you have something to comment. Okay, we.

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C

Start with the I can start with the kind of not that funny news that we are going to be delayed.

C

uh We won't reach the september 16 timeline or release date, so, but we haven't set any release date yet or updated it. So we will get there.

C

We are making some progress and and I'll show some of the progress here uh today and um the the kind of the thing we are uh a little bit uh behind our schedule is to get these specifications through the ballot to get them approved and finalized by the spec committee, and uh we have um actually today there were some updates.

C

So if we go in and look at the pull requests that are here, ready and and just search for the ballot label, you can see we have actually five that are ready to start the ballot and we're having a call later to date, and hopefully we can. We can kick this started today.

C

So yesterday it was three today it's five and maybe seven tomorrow. So what's up it's going that way uh and as you see, this is kind of managed by pull requests and uh the specifications that we are. We don't have pull requests for yet uh are these 12 here and and it's uh or it's actually 11..

C

So uh we have the the concurrency. The connectors jsp server faces: messaging security, enterprise, beams, jstl, json, b, checks, rs and transactions.

D

Yeah one one correction: uh we just got json b this morning so that one will be moving over.

C

Oh excellent yeah, so so it's moving and our kind of um encouragement is, if you have anything to contribute with getting these specs across the finish line. You should just jump into the mail list and start helping in creating these uh these pull requests and also a special environment to the mentors that we have appointed from the specification committee.

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If you're mentoring, one of these specifications, please reach out to them and figure out, what's stopping them from from creating a full request.

C

And a little for those who are not familiar with what these plural requests actually are. uh It is updates to the information that will end up on this specification listing page on the jacari website.

C

So, for example, authentication here you will get the when it's updated. You'll get the final version here with all the information for this release.

C

So that's kind of where we are uh we have. We are working on the specifications we have 10 of them. We are waiting for for a full request for and uh the others are underway and working on and uh hopefully for, hopefully we will get out a new release date as soon as possible, but it will be later than september. 16. That's for sure, but we can't say anything about when but hopefully or for sure we will make it before the year is over.

D

Oh boy, are we going to quote you on that? One eva.

C

You can do it.

D

um I I just wanted to point out the you know: the specifications that are still outstanding- I mean you know the specifications themselves and the apis. They are. Probably you know, 99.9 complete where, where the lag is is with trying to get the tcks completed and having an appropriate compatible implementation, but even that you know at the platform level we're doing extremely well with the tck and the glass fish compatible implementation, we're well over 99 percent.

D

Passing and there's always you know the last set of tests that are hard to to decipher and to debug so um that that's what we're working through I mean we. Currently, um we are only aware of seven issues left with glass fish that we are working now, as we continue to debug these remaining problems. There may be more that have to be opened, but it just shows that we are very close to having more and more of these tcks and compatible implementations ready to go yeah.

C

I kind of I have a feeling we have. This ketchup bottle effect coming up, so so, whenever we start getting specs through and the these seven issues are solved and it's just going to roll on and and it isn't actually one of the the problems we have is that the tck currently is this major big uh thing that everybody can sort of depend on so so, uh if we, if we can, in the future, be able to split the tck, so every specification project kind of controls, their part of it.

C

We will get rid of some of these dependencies and be able to move faster in the future.

D

Especially with you know, the the independent um specifications and being able to be on an independent release schedule, I think yes, I think that will help considerably.

C

Yeah, so that is something we absolutely will need the community to help us with. When we get past jakarta, e9.

C

So is there anything else we should bring up here or should we leave the bird back to tanya.

D

Yeah, I think I think we can give it back. um I just wanted. You know, I think that we are making very good progress with the specification prs um based on what happened with the platform calls and stuff.

D

In the last couple of days we have been reaching out to the ones that are still lagging in this milestone, one uh ready column and, like I said, json b already moved on it overnight, and so I think, we'll see more movement here over the next few days and um then it's then it really falls back on us from a spec committee perspective to do more, reviewing and balloting and getting them ready um for the final release. So we're making progress.

D

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So it is really a call for action, make a spec committee work so um have those prs logged, so we can make this pac committee work and and and and go through the final stages of the process. So we can approve the um specifications or the platform rather specification.

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C

Let's, let's spam their inboxes with certifications, ready for review and and work to be reading it. There.

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C

They don't have anything to do other than just waiting for these things right away. So.

A

Okay, well, um uh I guess thank you, eva and kevin any questions, additional questions from the audience. If or if there are follow-up questions you know how to reach us and if it's during the call there is ask a question button as well, so please let us know okay, so moving on then um okay, bye, kevin for now.

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C

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um I will bring in neil patterson, uh so let me invite neil and he will give us a little bit of update on how are we adjusting uh from the um marketing perspective uh uh in to this new era um covet situation so um I'll also invite shobnam and say temporarily by to evar just in case there are additional marketing related questions um so and for some reason.

E

Can't find traveling.

A

Okay, where are you oh there? She is okay and in the meanwhile I'll share my screen bye again and go to neil's slide.

A

Okay, there you go neil.

E

Great. Thank you thanks.

A

E

For joining today, um I appreciate the opportunity to provide an update on what's happening with the marketing committee. uh As tanya noted, um we did a review of the budget for 2020 based on uh what was happening. um You know around the world with cobot 19..

E

uh We primarily focused on the um the impact that the uh pandemic was having on face-to-face events, and we looked at what we could do to um to to best use the funds available that were being freed up because we weren't attending uh in sponsoring um face-to-face events.

E

So using that, um as a background, we decided to focus stronger attention on the digital aspects of the um our overall strategy. uh You know really take a look at how we could improve um our website and and other aspects of um the search engine optimization.

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uh Some of the um you know, keyword, rankings and and so on, and also work with members to improve our strategy around member acquisition.

E

So this resulted in in moving forward with a number of initiatives uh that uh hopefully we'll see the the the fruit from over the next few few months in terms of uh rework of the the site to drive better rankings and improve our developer.

E

The developer ability to find content faster and easier, and also working with members to improve you, know the the back tracing and the the linkage between uh jakarta ee, and um you know the the implementation sites, the um the uh the content that is uh presented on uh you know our member uh member sites.

E

So all of that uh we'll uh we'll be progressing and, uh as I said, we look forward to seeing some good results from that focus on digital. uh We also um um thanks to a number of members, david and and others um and ryan, uh who came together to pull a uh specific data sheet for vendors. That really highlights the opportunity for uh migration to jakarta, e9 and you know getting there getting the tooling in place um to support this. um This change uh to the specifications that that kevin and evar reviewed earlier.

E

This is a perfect opportunity. We have a data sheet now that you, as members and developers and and and others can share with your favorite tool, vendors to really start to promote uh them, getting involved now and being ready, as we launch to cardi e9 uh to take full advantage of the uh the release and move forward. um You know having made the the uh the name namespace changes that um are the key part of this uh this release.

E

So with that, um I think I'm I'm done uh tanya if uh you want to move on to your next part,.

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Yeah uh so let's see do we have any questions or comments.

A

Shaddom, did you want to add anything.

B

uh No, that was a perfect update meal thanks. uh I don't see any questions tanya. No, I don't yeah.

A

Yeah, okay, so um thank you. Neil uh we'll provide these occasional updates from marketing as well, just uh in the case community. Well, one is interested and two. uh If there are any uh there is any input or ideas um we're here to to to uh listen as well.

A

Okay, so um neil bye for now uh we'll be in touch, I'm sure.

E

A

I'm sure tomorrow.

E

Yeah take care.

A

Bye so uh going back to our agenda, so it is actually update from um three of us yeah. So uh let me uh bring in uh evar again and uh go through our deck.

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So today we have uh just the uh update on the uh future events, uh just a little bit on the um what's going on in jakarta, community china and where we're at there um and then, as always, we want to invite you to connect with us um evar. Did we uh talk about uh gelastic at all? Did we mention how happy we are that uh with the new data sheet, um we already have some impacts. There.

C

Yeah so yeah so uh jelastic, uh which is a a cloud pro provider. They announced that they are already supporting, jakarta, e9 uh with and they support it with. uh uh Currently, I I think it's it's tomcat tommy uh glassfish uh wildfly, and they will uh start supporting the other uh runtimes as well, and they actually have a pretty cool screenshot here, I'll just paste it in chat. So people can look at it.

C

Okay, so you can. You can see there how how they already have support for jakarta e9. That's pretty amazing.

A

And I hope uh I'm sharing. Yes, I'm sharing the screen, so yeah we're super excited and it's it's a call to action for everyone um on this call. If you have um cloud providers or different tools that um can uh or are have any interest in japan in supporting um java enterprise platform, jakarta ie, please reach out to them and help us get on their radar as well.

C

Yeah and and if you are providing any tooling or any stuff around jakarta, e9 just send me an email or a tweet, or something and I'll recapture it in my weekly blogs on jakarta. So if you want some free promotion, just reach out to me.

A

Yeah, okay, great so, let's just go quickly through some of the um uh uh updates uh for regarding the future events, um so want to mention the jakarta tech talks. So we have uh the upcoming talks on august, 18th and 25th.

A

Those are I'm just providing the links um for the jakarta tech, talk, meetup, uh youtube, playlist and then, of course, as always, jakarta community calendar, where those uh tech talks are listed.

A

If you are interested to provide a tech talk or have a even suggestion for a tech talk um here is the link so uh and- and in here everything that is in green. We already have done it and we're now um scheduling um or starting to schedule. The the uh tech talks for fall.

A

um Well, lions will uh he's just uh coming up with with the title for his talk, but that is happening uh end of august, so um yeah, uh please, uh um you know participate. uh This is the opportunity for you to show us um how you use jakarta or how you would like to use it or how we would like uh to uh the the technology to be used so either way get in touch.

A

Let us know if you have a suggestion for a talk, or you would like to present yourself.

A

We are also- I already talked about this uh last time, but I just want to give a heads up that uh live stream. uh Portuguese in portuguese will happen on august 29th. uh The cfp was cl is closed. Now, um so we're looking forward to to that event. uh If you are um you know, uh portuguese or for in portugal or in brazil, uh please make sure you you you dial in and you uh mark your calendar.

A

um The spanish uh version of the live stream is in works um again. This is uh uh not uh regional um conference, it is for anyone speaking spanish, um please register. It is scheduled right now for october 12th and we pushed out um the live stream. uh Jakarta one live stream uh 2020 in english. uh We are um trying to make sure that uh um this particular uh event is accompanied with the the release date. So uh we will get back to you in terms of exactly what the date uh that is going to.

A

Be eclipse con is coming up uh and uh I have to say that uh uh we're looking forward to uh that one and seeing the registrations for for uh that event as well. The community day that is going to be uh dedicated to jakarta and micro profile is going to happen on october 19th.

A

uh The community has taken uh really um a leadership uh this time around for organizing this event, so I think um actually, I know the submissions are already uh uh put forward, so I'm looking forward to seeing what community has prepared for the community as well.

A

I have just another quick update with regards to jakarta community china. Again, if you are chinese speaking java enterprise developer, uh please sign up to uh this form here. But uh what is uh what is new? Is that uh we're working on the website, so uh we're figuring uh some things out yet, but the uh intention is to actually have a mirroring website of the jakarta uh in chinese and uh slightly tailored to the um chinese community. So look out um for the information about that. We're expecting that uh to be ready shortly.

A

um Do you want to take this one over yeah sure.

B

Okay, so there are many ways that you can connect with us. You can join our mailing list, you can create pool requests and issues in github. You can join our slack channels, submit blog posts and, as tonya mentioned, you can join our monthly, jakarta tech talks and also, if you know any jakarta, related events, you can submit them and we'll publish them on our homepage and recently our web dev has created a newsroom to make it easier for the community to submit their uh jakarta eu-related news in our homepage.

B

So if you have anything that you want to share with the community check that link out and submit your news there, we'll review and publish it on our home page next, please.

B

Yeah and this list, if you check this link out um and if you're interested in any of our uh jakarta projects, you can subscribe to uh any of these mailing lists and start contributing or getting updates and be in touch and get involved.

B

uh So you can subscribe to this and then the next one yeah, and we recently launched the uh jakarta e youtube channel if you're interested to watch any the replay of any of our tech talks. Community calls uh replay of the virtual events be sure to subscribe to this uh jakarta youtube channel. This is a new channel, so we really need your support uh subscribe and then um you know get updates from this channel everything related to your personal ee yeah. That's basically it from me.

A

Okay, so that is um everything that we have for today, unless um there are questions, comments, inputs or someone, something else from the community.

A

Okay, so uh it seems to me that this is a really appropriate call for the summer version um short and sweet, so you can go ahead and enjoy the rest of your days and we'll talk again next month.

A

Thank you so much we'll be in touch.

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