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A
Contribute
in
some
ways,
from
my
perspective
in
my
work,
I'm
working
from
moving
all
our
legacy
for
cloud
native
ecosystem
and
moving
our
own
micro
service
architecture
using
sprint
book
to
something
light
that
we
can
deploy
and
we
can
up
optimize
for
for
the
needs
of
the
organization.
So
I
think
this
is
maybe
the
best
option
to
to
adopt
if
we
want
to
keep
in
the
java
ecosystem
and
participate
in
actively
in
a
community
also
the
latin
america
side.
B
B
B
B
B
Emerson,
the
thing
is
that
the
thing
is
that
that
pr
welcomes
individuals
like
you
emerson,
they
have
not
committed
the
status
to
be
highlighted
and
they
caught
in
a
new
card,
jakarta,
e9
release,
nine
will
have
hits
its
own
page
and
the
cards.
We
are
working
on
this
pr
to
say
who
should
be
ended
in
the
pr.
B
The
conversation
is
currently
being
led
and
currently
happening
between
six
seven
decades,
and
what
is
fascinating
is
that
we
need
more
people
like
mark
marcus,
more
people
that
are
independent
to
tell
us
who
should
be
in
these
cards
ed.
You
have
been
very
nice
on
this
ticket
and
you
have
said
the
question
was
jakarta.
Ae
should
be
only
the
ripples
of
jakarta
ee,
especially
the
the
specifications
that
have
made
the
prs
that
are
listed
on
every
friday
on
the
on
the
inventory
should
be
gathered
in
the
information.
B
Others
believe
that
all
ee4j
should
be
included,
but
egypt
e
for
j
includes
like
the
glass
phase,
so
the
conversation
goes
into.
Who
should
we
should
the
and
the
topic?
I
don't
think
it
is
delicate.
I
just
think
it
needs
attention
from
everyone,
and
this
is
why
I
sent
to
the
jakarta
e
working
group
forum
and
it
has
had
a
little
bit
more
traction.
There
are
only
22
people
last
time
I
checked
that
they
check
or
actually
subscribe
to
this
repo.
So
literally,
we
need
more
eyes.
B
B
C
So
on
that
committer
list
right,
I
think
I'm
perfectly
happy
with
my
personal
opinion.
Is
I'm
perfectly
happy
with
us
soliciting
we're
creating
cards
for
anybody
who
wants
who
is
actually
contributing
to
jacardi
or
any
of
the
implementations
that
go
into
producing
the
spec
right.
So
if
people
from
weld,
for
example,
wanted
to
have
their
names
appear
on
those
cards
and
there
weren't-
and
I
would
imagine
that
there
are
some
contributors
there
that
are
not
members
of
jakarta,
jakarta,
ee
or
even
eclipse
foundation.
C
As
long
as
the
you
know,
the
there's
some
way
to
share
their
you
know,
whatever
information
needs
to
be
shared,
I
don't
have
any
objections
to
those
things
right.
I
guess
I
don't
any
jakarta.
Ee
implementation
seems
to
be
going
further
than
that
to
me
because
you
know
after
the
specs
done,
I'm
hoping
we'll
have
a
lot
of
vendors
who
pick
it
up
and
actually
do
implementations
right,
and
you
know
so.
The
question
is
well:
does
everybody?
Whoever
does
a
jaccardi
implementation
belong
on
that
list?
And
I
guess
I'm
not.
C
I
start
to
get
a
little
less
clear
about
my
desire.
It
seems
to
me
that
an
easy
starting
point
for
that
list
is
everybody.
Who's.
A
member
who's
got
some
kind
of
committed
role
in
in
the
eu
in
any
of
the
ee4j
projects.
Right,
that's
a
that's
a
to
me
a
great
starting
point.
The
fact
that
this
list
is
created
is
generated
into,
or
it's
actually
picked
up
as
a
json
object,
but
certainly
means
it's
possible
for
someone
to
to
add.
C
You
know
just
manually,
add
some
people
from
an
outside
group
right
that
that's
conceivable
right.
I
I
just
don't
know
about
the
you
know
the
there's
all
this
concern
about
distributing
privacy
and
stuff
like
that.
So
you
know
as
long
as
we
can
get
past
all
that
I
think
as
long
as
they're
helping
push
jacardi
forward,
hey
I
they
they
should
be
counted
as
a
contributor.
B
Oh,
oh,
there
are
other
numbers
and
ed
you
did
say
it
in
the
in
the
in
the
pr
which
is
great
emerson.
You
are
showing
fantastic.
You
are
showing
the
code
the
way
behind
this.
The
the
capabilities
are
fantastic.
We
just
need
to
choose
either
it
can
be
git,
it
can
be
pages.
It
can
be
one
of
the
things
that
I
think
it
cannot
be.
It's
like
forum
emails.
B
That
is
too
hard
because
we
don't
have
access
to
that,
but
there
are
so
many
ways
to
contribute
to
the
community
started,
but
this
one
in
specific,
is
only
focused
in
jakarta
on
jakarta,
ee9
work.
It's
very
focused
on
that,
and
I
know
it
was
discussed
last
week
on
the
community,
call
that
who
should
be
a
part
of
this.
B
Currently
we
thought
you
know
if
blasphemy
like
work
should
be
not,
but
then,
if,
if
the
work
makes
it
into
jakarta
89
because
it
will
make
it
to
the
39
that
repo
should
be
added-
and
that
is
where
the
conversation
is
at
in
ed-
I
get
it.
We
should
have
something
that
welcomes
anyone
everywhere,
anywhere
to
like
contributors
as
a
whole,
but
this
one
is
only
dedicated
to
jakarta
e9
work,
for
instance.
B
If
emerson
is
there
and
has
contributed,
contributed
via
an
issue,
his
name
will
come
up
because
it's
automatically
added
via
the
tool
that
is
used
for
to
know
contributions
right
so
danielle.
We
know
daniel
is
from
from
south
java
brazil
and
he
is
not
a
committer.
He
is
a
contributor
and
oh
yeah
go
ahead,
tessa,
so
he's
a
contributor.
So
then
the
question
goes
now:
how
do
we
close
the
gap.
C
B
B
Yes-
and
that
is
that
is
where
we
are,
we
can
the
the
arc
in
the
code
can
welcome
different
mediums
onto
to
to
make
sure
that
most
contributors
are
tracked
and
added
automatically.
Everything
is
automatic.
I
think
it
would
be
impossible
for
us
to
expect
someone
to
be
owning
the
individual
updates
of
contributors.
That
is
not
scalable.
Right,
though,
the
idea
is
great
ed
that
is
not
scalable,
so
we
need
to
decide
what
mediums
should
be
added
here.
That's
the
next
step.
B
B
For
instance,
we
have
hassan
that
works
in
ee
egb
and
we
have
charade,
and
we
have
all
many
members
that
join
the
tck.
They
are
mostly
interested
in
working
on
the
tck
right,
so
will
they
make
it
to
this
list
as
well,
because
as
part
of
jakarta
89
in
how
do
we
trace
their
work?
A
B
Emerson,
if
you
click,
you
went
on
the
working
group
thread
and
if
you
click
there,
the
code
shows
you
how
this
was
developed.
If
you
click
click
number
one
there
here
this
says
committer
go
to
to
the
code.
B
B
Because
it
will
include
you
emerson?
You
are
working
you're
reviewing
if
you're
doing
any
of
the
work,
you
will
be
one
of
the
ones
enlisted
as
a
contributor
to
jakarta
e9,
which
is
so
cool.
How
do
you
feel
about
it?.
A
D
B
D
D
But
at
the
moment
I
don't
know
how
how
andrew
implemented
that.
But
I
imagine
that
we
would
do
that
in
an
async
manner,
because
there
are
some
rating
meeting
applied
to
github
and
therefore
I'm
I'm
not
sure
that
we
can
do
that
and
also
it
would
be
very,
very
expensive
to
do
on
the
fly
every
time.
So
I
suspect
we're
going
to
be
feeding
that
into
an
acing
process.
B
C
B
Yes,
it's
like
an
inventory
in
in
the
area
ed
when
you
see
imports,
that
is
the
you
know.
We,
if
it's
not
a
scalable,
it
shouldn't
exist,
so
we're
using
git
and
you're
correct.
There
are
many
other
ways
to
contribute
to
jakarta
ie
online,
because
we
have
the
forum
and
we
have
people
solving
problems
that
are
not
and
it
gets
or
do
not
make
the
prs.
However,
currently
that
is
not
a
scalable
that
would
be
impossible
for
anyone
to
track
that
contribution.
B
C
Upper
limit
to
the
size
of
this
file,
or
the
I
mean,
does
it
that
will
it
slow
down
the
responses
because
I
don't
want
you
know,
wait,
let's
say
we,
you
know
we're
approaching.
You
know
a
thousand,
maybe
two
thousand
entries
in
that
file.
Would
that
slow
down
the
responsiveness
of
the
of
the
card.
D
I
think
we
would,
we
would
still
have
like
some
some
loading
on
the
fly,
like
the
infinite
loading
every
time
you
start
scrolling
and
you
you
get
close
to
the
end
of
the
the
page,
we're
going
to
be
loading.
The
the
next
page.
C
So
I
guess
all
I'm
suggesting
is:
we
have
jenkins
jobs,
those
jobs
can
pretty
much
do
anything.
We
want
to
program
them
to
do
and
they
could
go
out
and
pull.
Surveys
of
you
know
various
source
locations
right
and
then
they
could
construct
that
into
a
consolidated
json
file
and
then
that
json
file
is
somehow
processed
for
rapid
sort
of
use
by
this
dynamic
card
list,
I
mean
perhaps
that's
more
complicated
than
what
we
have
here,
but
it's
all
those
things
are
possible.
C
Just
I
don't
know
what
you
know
what
the
interest
is
from
the
implementers
to
actually
go.
Go
that
far.
B
I
and
I
say,
based
on
the
conversation
we
can
follow
in
the
tickets
and
ask
andrey
who
is
leading
connecting
the
dots
of
the
feedback
received
via
the
tickets,
to
say
how
can
we
improve
it
and
just
make
some
suggestions?
B
Usually,
if
we're
clear
with
this,
you
know
the
edition
the
andre
would
be
able
to
to
figure
out
what
are
the
calls
and
prone
and
pros
that
we
need
to
consider,
because
this
is
this
needs
to
be
sustainable
so
that
it
gets
expanded
not
only
for
jakarta
e9
but
hopefully
across
the
entire
jakarta
ee
ecosystem,
always
thinking
and
acknowledging
contributors
right
contributors
include
committers
on
my
mind
right,
so
so
ed
you
can
you're
welcome
to.
You
are
already
one
of
the
contributors
of
the
the
pr
louis.
B
B
It's
not
going
to
be
perfect,
but
it's
a
great
start,
because
no
one
should
be
allowed
to
choose
who
they
think
is,
is
worth
it
invaluable
for
the
for
helping
jakarta,
e9,
everyone
is
worth
it,
it's
worth
it
if
they
are
here
and
is
investing
their
time,
we
need
to
think
we
need
to
appreciate
that
those
actions
oh
wow
yo.
This
is
showing
code.
A
Just
taking
a
look
at
the
pull
request
and
seeing
the
logic
and
trying
to
understand
the
end-to-end
process,
but
that's
pretty
pretty
nice,
like
I
said
before,
okay
going
back
to
the
agenda,
we
still
have
like
15
minutes
there
is
we
already
covered
one
two
and
three?
I
think
this
is
the
next
point
we
want
to
see
the
about
inviting
participant
members
to
two
days
still
prevail
commits
calls.
B
This
is
already
happening.
I
think
jakarta
already
had
a
jakarta
string
call
twice
half
an
hour
for
at
one
conference
and
another
one
just
for
q
a
and
that
was
really
nice,
and
I
believe
that
the
student
committee,
not
the
specification
committee,
if
I'm
not
if
not,
if
I'm
not
wrong,
has
opened
up
to
invite
strategic
members
working
on
different
apis
already.
Is
that
correct?
B
So
then,
little
by
little,
you
know
communication
matters,
because
if
we
don't
communicate,
everything
is
delayed
right
and
there
is
too
much
information
in
the
forums
for
everyone
to
catch
up
and
know
exactly
what
is
happening
in
jakarta
a9.
So
that
is
the
issue.
We
need
the
people
in
red
room,
so
they
are
able
to
execute
and
do
so
faster
than
just
waiting
and
being
lost.
B
B
E
Yeah,
so
so,
basically
the
repo
is
is
up.
We
have
been.
We
are
we're
currently
working
on
on
a
couple
of
pr's.
There
were
some
import
of
issues
also,
and
and
that's
why
you
see
a
29
at
this
at
this
point
and
that
we
will
eventually
review
and
and
provide
feedback.
E
Personally
speaking,
I
need
to
work
on
the
github
lfs
now
that
many
of
us
are
committers
on
that
repo.
I
have
that
test
pending.
That
is
related
with
one
of
the
pr,
so
we
embrace
the
community
to
check
out
the
readme
file.
The
readme
file
has
at
this
point.
If
you
go
to
the
yeah,
that's
right.
Thank
you.
It
has
a
description
about
this.
What
what
is
repository
is
all
about,
and
it's
basically
to
embrace
collaboration
in
all
these
forms
that
you
see
here.
E
Tutorials
blogs,
ebooks
videos,
workshops,
translation,
podcast,
so
anyone
is
welcome
to
contribute.
We
have.
We
have
been
actually
working
in
the
contributing
document
that
basically
state
the
prerequisites
that
also
allow
you
to
start
right
away.
E
If
this
is
the
first
time
you
are
joining
a
jakarta,
yeah
related
talk,
if
you
want
to
contribute
to
any
of
the
projects
that
we
have
discussed
over
the
or
the
over,
this
call
you
need
to
first,
you
know:
have
your
eclipse
account
signed
the
eca
or
eclipse
contribution
agreement
as
we
call
it,
and
with
that
house
we
also
provide
reference
to
how
to
sign
a
pr,
and
this
is
not
just
for
this
repository.
This
actually
applies
for
all
the
rest
of
the
repositories
within
the
jakarta
ecosystem.
E
So
I
think
that's
that
that's
something
that
you
may
find
useful.
If
this
is
the
first
time
you
are
seeing
this
and
then
we
have
the
guidelines.
This
is
a
working
progress,
also
about
how
you
can
start
contribute
with
video
and
image
content.
Eventually,
we
will.
We
will
increase
the
the
number
of
guidelines,
but
this
is
the
place
for
for
you
to
to
to
open
an
issue.
E
If
you
have
an
idea
and
then
eventually
create
a
pr,
I
don't
promote
the
fact
of
just
creating
a
pr
and
sending
it
over,
because
at
that
point
maybe
you
are
working
on
something
that
is
already
a
work
in
progress,
so
make
sure
to
check
out
the
korean
issues.
E
If
you
want
to
contribute
to
some
thing
that
you
may
found
interesting
and
if
the
conversation
is
not
in
any
of
these
issues,
please
feel
free
to
open
a
new
issue
and
you're
more
than
welcome
to
review
pr's
comment
on
the
issues
and
keep
the
contribution
going
and,
and
both
also
for
for
one
of
these
issues
or
any
other
pr,
and
for
that
that
will
allow
us
as
allow
us
as
a
commuter
also
to
bring
more.
You
know,
focus
on
what
the
community
is
is
requesting
more
or
what
they
think.
As
a
community.
E
We
should
we
focus
our
effort,
so
yeah
that's
pretty
much
the
the
repository
status
at
the
moment.
A
lot
of
work
ahead,
a
lot
of
work
ahead,
so
a
lot
of
help
needed
from
the
community
and
yeah.
That's
basically
the
the
status
I
I
have
for
for
the
repository.
B
And
said
you
said
we
a
lot
so
when
you
say
we
do
you
refer
to
this,
this
marketing
committee
will
be
the
one
that
will
be
responsible
of
owning
this
repo.
I
understand
that
the
committee
every
member
listed
has
been
converted
into
a
committer
so
that
they
can
each
single
member
as
a
team,
can
work
on
processing
the
tickets
and
the
prs.
B
But
my
question
is:
is
this
a
way
for
those
that
are
non-coders
to
in
the
future
become
committers
of
jakarta
ae?
Currently,
jakarta
ie
doesn't
recognize
contributions
that
are
non-code
and
to
me
this
is
such
an
important
step
for
the
ecosystem
itself,
because
non-code
contributors
contributors
are
as
valuable
as
developers.
E
Yeah,
so
there
are,
there
are
many
topics
in
in
in
in
your
questions
being
the
first
one.
Yes,
the
marketing
working
working
group
members
are
committers
in
this
repository,
but
that
doesn't
mean
that
we
are
the
only
ones
that
are
gonna,
be
always
the
committers
right.
We
actually
embrace
the
community
to
join,
to
start
contributing
and
eventually
have
nominations
for
having
more
committers
right.
E
So
so
that's
that's.
I
think.
That's
that's
really
important,
and
and
also
when
you
mention
that
the
prs
and
the
issues
are
marketing
committee
responsibilities,
I
will
say
is
is
is-
is
a
shared
responsibility
also
from
from
from
the
community
point
of
view,
because,
as
I
stated
previously,
we
encourage
and
we
invite
the
community
to
go
in
the
prs
review,
the
pr
provide
their
feedback
and
create
prs
and
issues
and
review
issues.
E
So
it
is
not
just
you
know,
as
with
any
other
open
source
project
is
the
community
who
who
will
embrace
and
will
dictate
and
and
and
you
know,
provide
directions
of
where
this
repository
will
evolve
and
and
we
have
all
the
support
and
and
all
the
infra
from
eclipse
foundation.
E
That
has
been
great
to
to
allow
us
to
have
this
space
for
for
for
creativity
that,
as
you
are
you're
correct,
as
you
mentioned,
it's
not
directly
involved
with
coding
right
many
of
the
examples
that
are
on
the
rhythmic
file
in
terms
of
contribution,
maybe
not
so
code
related
oriented,
for
example,
creating
a
podcast
or
creating
an
article
or
creating.
You
know
a
workshop
content
that
requires
different
skills
and
obviously
infographics,
as
we
already
have
one
of
the
prs.
E
There
are
also
something
that
you
know
designers
and
that
made
or
not
code
as
well
are
eager
to
contribute
to,
and
the
last
part
when,
when
I
think
when
you're
saying
that
you
know
it's
it's
a
space
for
known
colors,
yes,
that
that's
basically
it
right,
we
embrace
the
community
to
to
join,
contribute
and
have
that
place.
E
For
also
start,
this
mentoring
is
the
first
time
you
are
interacting
with
these
tool
sets
like
github,
and
you
know
starting
to
get
into
into
the
context
of
what's
going
on
with
jakarta
ee.
So
I
don't
know
if
that
answered
your
your
questions,
but
that
that's
that's
how
we
like
to
describe
the
the
repository
right
have
a
place
for
for,
for
enabling
collaboration
that
made
or
not
made
involved
directly
code.
B
That's
what
I
think
the
feedback
in
the
insight
you
provided
is
very,
very
detailed.
My
follow-up
question
is:
is
there
a
plan
because
everything
is
being
set
up,
but
is
there
a
plan
to
send
a
note
to
the
working
group
forum
saying
this
is
a
new
repo?
It
has.
The
repo
has
not
been
introduced,
but
it
has
been
into
effect
for
almost
two
months.
B
So
you
know,
as
things
are
getting
completed,
is
there
an
a
a
plan
to
not
do
a
major
splash
but
to
use
the
working
group
forum
to
bring
visibility
to
those
ones
that
have
been
so
are
subscribed
to
that
mailing
list
to
say
this
is
happening
and
just
you
know-
and
this
is
a
question
for
everyone
here-
would
that
be
valuable
if
you
were
not
in
this
call
like
emerson?
B
Do
you
know
about
this
repo
and
if
you
didn't
know
about
the
repo,
like
you're,
a
computer
you're
a
developer,
but
I
know
that
you
are
also
interested
in
the
branding
side.
Communicating
is
important
because
you
do
that
in
microprofile
and
you're
amazing.
You
do
you
contribute
in
code
non-code.
So
what
do
you
think?
Should
we
be
improving
on
this
because
it
has
not
been
introduced
to
the
community
and
we
don't
have
a
marketing
jakarta
public
jakarta
mailing
list.
B
A
A
I
wonder
if
that
can
be
a
good
channel
and
remembering
the
discussion
yesterday
about
the
slack
adoption
from
my
profile.
No,
I
know
jakarta
is,
is
kind
of
active
in
the
slack
channel,
so
maybe
using
those
channels
and
including
this
particular
comment
about
the
existence
of
this
repository,
can
have
a
wider
promotion
or
raise
more
people
to
be
aware.
I
I
didn't
know
about
this
just
10
minutes
ago,
so
I
think
that
is
the
that
those
can
be
the
strategies
to
communicate
and
and
get
to
the
people.
B
So
then,
emerson,
because
you
have
an
idea-
you
want
the
media
to
be
pushing
this
like
we
have
in
microprofile
and
other
projects
to
say
this
is
available
to
you.
If
you
have
that
idea,
please
submit
a
git
issue
and
send
the
person
to
say
you
know
the
repo
should
be
added
to
the
twitter
media
and
pushed
maybe
once
a
month.
You
are.
B
This
is
why
the
the
repo
has
been
created
to
enable
us
to
do
better,
to
improve
and
to
see
and
to
add
things
that
you
know
to
bring
the
ideas
from
anyone
in
the
community
things
you
would
like
to
see,
and
I
think
you
have
a
point
you
should
be
pushed
in.
Maybe
twitter
would
be
great.
I
don't
use
a
slack
minus,
but
others
do
so.
Do
you
see
what
I
mean
cater
to
different
people
that
are
not
yet
in
the
community?
B
I
believe
that
one
of
the
issues
is
that
we
need
to
step
out
and
zoom
out
and
reach
those
that
have
yet
to
know
that
jakarta
is
the
reminding
of
java
ee.
We
need
to
connect
with
the
university
of
students.
They
have
no
idea
about
open
source,
and
that
is
still
uneducated,
not
because
they
are
not
looking,
but
it's
because
other
things
come
into
place.
How
do
we
attract
and
say
you
don't
have
to
spend
one
week
reading
to
just
feel
valuable
since
the
moment
did
you
join?
B
E
Yeah
yeah
so
yeah,
you
know,
I
agree
that
we,
you
know
we
we
need
to
to
promote
more,
not
just
the
repo,
but
actually
all
generally
just
mentioned.
You
know
there
are
we
there?
There
is
a
lot
of
hands
needed
on
the
on
the
spec
side
of
the
fence.
E
Also,
and
I
recall
that,
on
the
call
on
the
last
jakarta
e
update,
call
we
we
we
chatted
about
this
repository
too,
and
and
for
those
who
are
gonna,
be
seeing
this
this
video,
we
invite
you
to
also
join
and
and
help
help
help
us,
because
you
know,
as
you
saw
there,
there
are
more
than
eight
different
ways
to
contribute,
and
we
currently
just
have
two
guidelines
related
with
that
particular
content
and
and
and
and
more
work
is
needed.
E
More
hands
are
needed
to
review
and
propose
so
yeah
we
invited
again
and
and
yeah.
I
also
think
that
you
know
promoting
this
and
other
repositories
and
and
specific
projects
and
like
in
the
case
of
the
specification
project,
it's
it's
something
valuable
that
we
will
take
to
as
an
invitation
in
the
different
channels
that
that
we
already
have
right.
So
good
good
call.
B
Yeah,
amazon
really
good
call
do
submit
the
the
issue
to
the
collateral
and
say
things
like
this
need
to
be
some
make
it
to
the
twitter.
The
main
twitter,
jakarta,
e
twitter
and
be
pushed,
and
just
the
idea
is
great.
I
mean
we
are
doing
it.
I
know
you
get
a
lot
of
information
from
microprofile.
We
make
it
so
simple,
just
tweet,
tweet
tweets
add
the
links
enable
maybe
that
will
help
reach
out
people
yeah.
B
We
need
to
go
so
most
of
you
have
need
to
go
to
the
student
call
that
is
happening
at
nine
in
the
morning
pdt
time
emerson.
Thank
you
so
much
for
being
the
the
facilitator
of
the
agenda
today,
you're
wonderful,
look
at
this.
You
arrive
and
you
have
job
to
do
yeah.
So
so
to
finish
the
job
that
you
agreed
to
do
like
you
volunteer,
not
push
to
be
volunteer.