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From YouTube: Jakarta EE TCK Community Outreach Call Nov 13, 2020
Description
This call welcomes everyone interested in join and contributes to Jakarta EE TCK.
The call provided a hands-on demo on setting up locally and running the Jakarta EE Platform TCK, along with the current project status and documentation.
► Project website with links to the repository and the jakartaee-tck-dev mailing list: https://projects.eclipse.org/projects/ee4j.jakartaee-tck/developer
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A
It's
compute,
okay,
scott,
do
you
wanna,
show
the
minutes
and
then
state?
What
are
you
joining
us
today?
This
call
is
being
recorded.
Do
the
introduction
of
you
know.
B
A
Yeah
you
want
to
share
the
minutes
in
the
chat
so
that
everyone
can
add
their
names
and
things
like
that.
B
Okay,
see
how
do
I,
how
do
I
get
to
the
chat.
A
A
B
I
pasted
the
link
that
I'm
going
to
follow
in
a
gift
link
and
that's
kind
of
the
basis
for
you
know
what
I'll
do
and
I
are
just
a
nun
disclosure.
I
already
downloaded
the
tck,
so
you
know
we
don't
have
to
wait
and
downloading
the
tck.
Can
you
know
it's
like
500
meg
plus
can
take
a
long
time
or
can
be
like
a
few
minutes
depends
on
the
performance
of
the
download
site.
B
Maybe
how
heavily
it's
loaded
so,
but
it's
best
to
not
have
to
do
everything,
but
I'm
just
going
to
open
up
the
gist,
which
I
think
I
have
in
another
window,
yep
right
here
and
let
me
just
crank
up
the.
B
Size,
a
bit
and
I'll
I'll
just
talk
through
some
steps
and
yeah
it
it
it's
basically
just
downloading
the
tck
and
then
unzipping
it
and,
like
I
said,
I'm
going
to
skip
that
step,
because
it's
going
to
see
that
I
already
have
jakarta
ee
tck
because
I
don't
know
if
it
takes
a
half
hour
or
two
minutes
to
run
that.
So
I'm
off,
you
know
skipping
that
and
I
am
using
my
local
machine.
B
So
I
already
have
all
these
tools
set
up,
but
I
still
left
it
in
the
commands
to
download,
like
you
know
and
and
set
it
up,
so
that
if
you're
following
and
using
the
example,
you
could
use
it
to
download
those
tools.
And
one
thing
we
didn't
optimize
out.
It's
kind
of
in
the
tck
script
already
and
already
done
is
the
downloading
of
glass
fish.
And
so
we,
you
know
we're
specifying
the
you
know
to
use
rc2
for
this
demo
and
it's
kind
of
simulating
jenkins
environment
using
workspace.
B
All
this-
and
I
will
let's
see
I'll-
do
it
up
to
yeah
I'll
go
ahead
and
do
it
up
to
there,
which
is
actually
running
the
tck
and
we'll
just
jump
right
into
it,
and
let's
see
clear
that-
and
let
me
make
this
larger
as
well:
enlarge
fault
control,
plus,
let's
see
there,
we
go
all
right
and
I'm
just
going
to
paste
all
that
in
and
okay,
so
we're
downloading
maven.
I
already
have
maven,
but
that's
okay
and
yeah.
B
The
unzip
eats
the
keyboard
input,
so
I
have
to
kind
of
I
have
to
copy
and
paste
to
after
the
unzip
it's
interesting.
Now
some
command
commands
will
drain
the
keyboard,
input
and
others
won't.
B
Let's
see,
okay,
so
for
this
test,
we're
gonna
run
just
a
few
jeep
jakarta
tck
platform,
tck
jpa
test
we're
using
glass
fish,
okay,
okay,
now,
okay,
so
it
all
scrolled
by
so
quick.
B
Basically,
while
while
it's
downloading
glass
fish
oops,
let's
I'll
explain
what
I
you
know
just
some
of
the
things
that
just
happened
like
I
said
we
skipped
the
download
of
the
jakarta
tck
platform,
tck
and,
and
we
did
download
you
know
maven
and
we
had
unzipped
the
jakarta
tck
and
the
one
of
the
first
things
we
did
was
change
mod
on
the
run,
jakarta
tck
script,
which
isn't
like
it
sounds.
It's
not
a
generic
run,
the
tck
with
any
implementation.
B
With
the
you
know,
with
the
argument
of
jpa
and
up
up
to
the
folder
inside
of
the
jpa
test
group
of
what
test
to
run
and
let's
just
take
a
quick
look
again
to
see
where
it
is
okay,
so
it
is
moving
along
with
running
the
tck.
It's
setting
up
glass
fish
to
run
the
tck
and,
let's
see.
B
Tell
me
when
it's
too
small
and
I'll
go
back
up.
That's.
D
A
B
Okay,
great
and
so
it
downloads
glassfish
twice,
and
maybe
you
know
for
yeah.
We
can
optimize
that
next
next
release
to
check
if
it
already
has
glass,
fish,
zip
or
something
so
that
the
demo
would
go
a
little
quicker.
If
I
didn't
have
to
download
it
twice,
but
that's
okay,
and
then
we
set
up
the
yeah.
We
have
two
copies.
We
have
the
implement
yeah,
the
the
implementation
and
the
reference.
What
we
call
what
we
from
a
legacy
point
of
view.
We
traditionally
call
the
reference
implementation.
B
It
is
just
a
compatible
implementation
and
we're
doing
one
and
the
same.
So
in
theory,
those
could
be
any
two
compatible
implementations
being
tested,
and
we
can
just
see
lots
of
things
happening.
It's
doing
it
starting
up
the
app
server
for
the
test.
B
A
B
So
we
use
the
same
terms
now,
but
there's
really
no
reason
why
one
of
those
implementations
couldn't
be
say:
wildfly
or
open
liberty
or
websphere
weblogic.
Whatever
I
don't
know
if
that
works,
but
in
theory
it
could
work.
B
You
know
this,
you
know
just
you
know,
for
e
for
jakarta
ee9,
we
have
compatible
implementations
and
these
are
kind
of
the
fact
that
we're
using
glass
fish
as
what
we
call
the
reference
implementation
is
a.
I
guess
yeah.
I
don't
know
if
anywhere
there's
a
requirement
that
that
has
to
be
that
yeah
consider
the
reference
implementation.
Everything
I
understand
is
it's
not
but
yeah,
so
you
could
really
use
two
compatible
implementations
to
to
do
the
testing
and
there's
very
little
testing
that
actually
uses
that.
B
I
think
it's
there's
some
reverse
and
forward
testing,
which
refers
to
the
order
of
which
server
is
calling
the
other
server.
You
know
either
in
you
know,
x,
calls
y
or
y
calls
x
order
and
there's
some
tests
that
still
do
that.
I
think
for
web
services,
but
yeah
yeah,
so
the
idea
is
there
yeah.
We
just
have
compatible
implementations
just
in
yeah.
You
know
it's
just
not
fully
implemented,
oh
done.
Okay,
so.
A
B
D
B
B
Here
we
go
so
it
yeah
everything
everything
passed
here
there.
It
is
there.
So
all
18
tests
passed
yay
and
I'm
just
going
to
switch
to
switch
to
the
switch
to
the
other
page.
Here
we
go,
I'm
just
gonna
yeah,
going
back
to
the
script
a
little
bit,
and
so
people
ask
how
they
make
tests,
how
they
contribute
chain.
You
know
tests
to
the
platform
tck
and
you
know
they
want
to.
B
You-
know,
clone
the
tck
and
get
it
all
set
up
and
build
it,
and
all
that
and
one
you
know
one
one
other
shortcut:
if
you
will,
if
you
want
to
make
a
quick
change
to
try
something
you
can
you
can
also,
you
can't
use
it
for
running
compatibility
tests
to
prove
that
you're
compatible,
but
you
can
just
you
know
if
you
want
to
try
a
quick
change
to
you
know,
maybe
add
a
print
or
log
some
information
or
try
a
test
change.
You
can
follow.
B
You
can
follow
this
and
what
I'm
going
to
do
is
I'm
you
know.
I.
I
think
that
I
believe
that
the
named
entity
graph
test
is
wrong
and
I
think
I'm
going
to
fix
it
with
a
change.
I
have
in
mind,
so
I'm
going
to
open
up
the
client,
dot
java
source
file
and
I'm
gonna
try
and
make
a
change
to
groups
right.
I'm
in
vi
still,
I'm
gonna.
B
The
right
place
already
remembers
yeah,
so
I
I
think
that
I'm
going
to
improve
the
get
name
test,
because
I
I
look
at
it
and
I
say
yeah.
I
don't
really
believe
that
this
test
is,
you
know
you
know,
should
you
know
should
be
testing
for
null.
B
I
think
it
should
be
testing
for
not
null,
so
it's
a
totally
silly
change,
because
obviously
we
just
saw
that
it
passed
when
it
tested
for
null
and
it's
not
going
to
pass
now,
but
just
you
know
just
let's
just
say
I
I
think
it's
not
testing
the
spec
correctly
and
I
want
yeah.
I
want
to
make
a
change.
B
B
I
just
show
that
that's
what
we
said
yes
and
compile
build,
and
it's
going
to
recompile
the
code
in
the
current
directory
and
it's
going
to
take
the
class
files
and
it's
going
to
update
the
archives
in
the
tcks
dist
folder
off
of
the
tck
route,
and
it
will
be
ready
to
run
the
test
once
again
with
that
test
change
that
I
thought
was
a
great
idea.
You
know,
although
we
know
yeah,
we
know
how
that's
going
to
go.
A
B
Space
and
basically
gonna
run
once
more
and
I'll,
just
save
it
to
a
different
file,
name
with
change.
B
Okay,
so
and
it's
going
to
download
glass
fish
again
and
then
just
go
back
to
the
to
the
browser
screen
again
and
just
talk
about
it
about
this
for
another
a
minute.
So
you
know,
as
I
said,
I
replaced
you
know
the
test
for
null
with
nautinol
and
you
you
know
like
if,
if
you're
getting
the
failure-
and
maybe
you
you're-
you
have
no
idea-
why?
Because
there's
not
enough
information
being
printed,
you
might
use
this
to.
You
know,
adjust
the
test
slightly
to
show
more
information.
B
That's
just
you
know
one
example,
but
yeah.
Let's
say
I
want
to
add
a
new
jpa
test
that
I
have
in
mind.
That's
for
something
that
didn't
get
tested.
That's
that's
required
by
the
jpa,
spec
or
jakarta,
persistent
spec
and
I
wanted
to
add
a
new
test
method.
B
And
then
you
know
it's
a
new
test
class
whatever
I
can
just
go
in
here
and
hack
it
this
way,
and
then
I
can
create
a
separate
pull
request
where
I
actually
move
my
test
changes
over
into
my
actual
fork
of
the
tck
repo,
and
I
can
kind
of
see
a
reasonably
easy
path
that
you
can
go
in
now.
You
need
to
have
your
you
know.
B
The
tck
needs
to
pass
first,
when
you
you
do
this
and
but
yeah
that's
kind
of
the
idea
that
the
demo-
and
you
know
things
do
go
wrong
and
you
know
settings
do
get
set
incorrectly,
and
that
just
happens.
It's
just
you
know
asks
for
help
when
that,
when
that
does
and
what
we'll
see
is
it's
going
to
feel
now
and
okay,
it's
that
you're
downloading
the
other
copy
of
glassfish.
B
So
it's
going
to
take
it
yeah,
that's
going
to
take
another
second,
so
that
so,
let's
so
we'll
see
it
run,
we'll
see
a
failure
and
we'll
prove
that
the
failure
will
prove
that
it
took
the
change
and
we
just
demonstrated
how
to
run.
B
You
know
some
tck
tests
and
also
how
to
make
a
change
that
you
could
use
to
try
and
add
a
test,
an
additional
test
as
a
start
as
a
beginning-
and
you
know,
as
I
said,
move
it
over
to
your
test
repo
after
and
then
create
a
pull
request,
and
while
that
runs,
I
think
we
can
I'll
I'll
visit
I'll,
visibly
go
I'll,
go
in
and
show
the
verification.
But
if
anyone
wants
wants
to
ask
any
questions
now,
that
would
be
great.
B
Right,
yeah
yeah,
that's
kind
of
so
one
of
the
benefits
of
how
the
tc
the
platform
tck
is
set
up
now
with
ant,
as
opposed
to
it
used
to
use
make
years
ago.
One
of
the
benefits
is
in
every
in
every
folder
you
have
like
you
can
go
into
the
bottom
and
and
build
from
the
bottom
or
the
other
top
sorry,
the
top
level
and
then
it'll
rebuild
much
more
like
the
top
level
of
say,
jpa
it'll
build
all
the
jpa
tests,
so
there's
ant
scripts
at
every
level.
B
C
B
Run
and
then
you
know,
if
you're
only
running
that
subset
of
tests,
the
tests
will
run
quicker.
If
you
go,
if
you,
you
know,
only
run
those
specific
tests
like
I
did,
and
if
you
only
build
those
specific
tests
which
I
did
as
well,
so
it
knows
how
to
build
only
the
archives
for
the
folder
and
anything
underneath
it
and
put
it
in
the
right
place.
So
you
can
continue
testing,
so
you
kind
of
see
and
we
were
actually
yeah.
B
We
were
talking
a
few
weeks
ago
about
the
best
way
to
kind
of
like
make
some
test
changes,
and
in
that
conversation
I
think
we
were
yeah.
We
were.
We
were
talking
on
chat
and
I
just
couldn't
really
explain
this
in
a
way
that
I
had
confidence
that
someone
else.
You
know
that
you
know
that
to
explain
itself
to
someone
else
that
you
could
do
it
this
way,
because
if
you
do
it
in
isolation,
I'm
afraid
you
hit
a
configuration
issue.
B
You
know
the
tck
is
not
running
and
you
got
you
got
to
kind
of
nail
that
down.
So
it's
kind
of
complicated.
I
think-
and
you
got
to
get
past
that
point
so
but
yeah
once
you
kind
of
have
this
successful,
you
can
run
the
test.
You
can
kind
of
bootstrap
some
changes
that
you
want
to
make
this
way.
B
But
just
you
know
I
I
wouldn't
send
someone
down
this
path
like
if
they're
going
to
be
in
isolation
and
just
going
to
like
spend
an
all-nighter
like
you
know,
yeah
doing
like
cranking
on
test
changes
without
you
know
you
know,
you
know
possible
help
for
the
build.
You
know
for
the
problems
that
might
happen
which
would
be
really
frustrating
so
but
yeah
but
yeah.
Just
yeah,
that's
yeah.
B
What
what
I'm
saying
is,
try
it
if
you,
if
you
can't
make
if,
if
you're
stuck
in,
if
you,
if
you,
if
your
configuration,
is
not
exactly
right
and
you
can't
run
the
tcka
test,
then
it's
not
going
to
really
work
out
you,
you
know
yeah,
you
kind
of
you
have
to
be
able
to
run
the
test.
The
environment
that
lets
you
run
the
test.
B
A
B
Yeah
there's
more
so
this
is
a
full,
a
full
working
script.
Let's
see
there
are.
B
On
the
it's
on
the
the
github,
you
know
pages,
which
yeah
maybe
I
should
show
those
I
don't
know.
I
don't
know.
B
On
the
wiki
there,
so
there's
pages
on
the
wiki
and
they're
on
yeah
they're
cloned
to
the
github
pages
as
well,
there's
examples
for
building
the
tck
and
for
running
the
the
platform
tck
and
the
standalone
gck.
Let
me
just
let's
go
back
okay,
so
we're
finished.
Let's,
let's
verify
that.
B
And
looks
like
I
paged
up
right
to
the
failure.
Let
me
just
go
to
the
top
of
it.
B
B
So,
let's
see
so
going
back
up.
We
just
find
one
building
and
running.
We
just
really
want
the
running
running.
Okay,
look!
Here's
one
we're
using
podman.
B
So
this
so
this
is,
this
is
a
similar
one.
This
is
one
that
I
I
put
together
that
I
had
used
as
a
I
was
using
podman
virtualization
for
as
a
workaround
to
run
centos
locally,
and
I
would
so
I
did
everything
like
you
know
installing
you
know
java
and
other
tools
to
to
to
do
the
the
the
tck
running
and,
let's
see
yeah,
it
looks
reasonable
down
here.
So
I
think
I
updated
to
this.
B
Okay,
we're
still
downloading
the
glass
fish
nightly,
build
that
not
a
big
deal
could
probably
update
that
to
rc2
and
just
sets
up
ant
and
yeah
run
sample
test
so
there
so
there's
this
example
yeah,
and
this
one
sets
the
workspace
the.
What
I
always
found
is
when
it
doesn't
work
for
me
it's
because
I
forgot
to
set
workspace
variable
or
something
like
that
or
I
I
had
an
on
my
clock
on
my
class.
I'm
sorry
my
on
my
path.
B
I
forgot
to
set
up
aunt
home
all
you
know
little
things
like
that
and
it'd
be
nice.
If
we
had
generic
run
any
tck.
What
I'm?
What
I've
been
doing?
Is
I've
been
working
on
passing
the
platform
tck
with
wildfly,
and
I
set
up
a
script
to
run
the
tck
that
it's
based
on
yeah?
You
know,
I
can't
show
it
yet.
We
kind
of
need
to
we
need
to
expose
those
yeah,
our
tck
stuff,
still
yeah.
B
We
haven't
really
done
that
yet,
but
but
it'd
be
nice
if
we
had
some
shared
scripts
that
had
error
checking
in
them
to
check
for
these
things
like
the
workspace
and
other
other,
whatever
other
variables
are
required,
although
I
should
say
I
think
the
workspace
keyword
is
actually
required
by
that.
B
You
know
by
the
the
docker
run
tck
script
that
we
were
just
running
that
is
specific
to
glass
fish.
B
So
I
guess
if
like,
if
you're
cloning,
the
you
know
that
script
to
run
it
with
other
tck
and
other
server
implementations,
then
you
might
look
at
what
I
was
going
to
suggest
to
which
is
we
probably
could
check
to
see
if
workspace
is
set,
we
could
probably
check
to
see
if
ant
home
is
set.
B
You
know
early
on,
I
think,
there's
some
of
these
things
that
the
script,
the
the
tck
run
will
just
go
and
feel
if
it's
not
right,
so
just
a
little
reminder
that
we,
you
know
anyone
could
help
in
that
regard.
You
know
we
just
you
probably
need
some
pull
requests
either
to
the
shared
utilities.
Tck.
You
know
tck
shared
utilities,
repo
or
platform
tck,
and
we
could
probably
have
some.
You
know
improvement
there.
I
I
know
personally,
I
thought
about
that,
but
you
know
just
to
touch
on
it.
A
bit
yeah.
B
We
were
really.
You
know
heads
down
on
just
getting
e9
done
most
of
this
year.
Really
it
was
so
I
thought
about
to
be
nice
to
do
those
things
every
time
I
messed
it
up
and
I
you
know,
had
failures,
but
I
don't
know
it's
a
long
answer
to
that
question.
A
So,
scott,
I
have
a
follow-up
on
this
when,
when
someone
is
running,
the
tck
needs
to
go
to
the
ripple
of
the
tck
to
get
the
pages
support
right.
What
is
it
stopping
us
for
from
moving
this
repo
in
every
jakarta
ee
expect
repo
into
the
jakarta
home.
A
A
That's
a
different
topic,
but
it's
confusing
because
when
we
want
to
help,
no
one
knows
where
to
go
to
get
the
the
right
repo.
It's
too
messy
and
I'm
saying
maybe
after
we're
done
with
jakarta
a9,
because
the
technical
work
got
done
on
friday.
Last
friday
we
could
start
thinking
about
the
cleaning
so
that,
if
I
was
a
technical
developer
and
I
wanted
to
work
on
the
tck
which
is
finally
open
and
free,
you
know
I
know
exactly
where,
where
to
go
right.
So
that's
my
like.
C
C
B
And
yeah
just
to
give
my
opinion
since
we're
talking
about
anything
and
and
yeah,
so
it's
kind
of
like
you
know
the
jakarta.
I
love
the
jakarta
ee.
You
know
page
and
I
refer
to
it
a
lot
to
look
at
the
specs
and
often
you
have
to
look.
You
know
things
up
and
it's
a
great
source
of
information.
B
I
kind
of
think
of
like
the
like
the
like
the
github
platform
tcks,
you
know
wiki
or
github
pages.
It's
like
a
silo,
you
kind
of
have
the
jpa.
Sorry
are
the
persistence.
You
have
the
ejb,
the
you
have
all
the
different
specs
and
we're
all
like.
There's
always
like
a
little
silos
which
allows
us
to
focus
on
yeah
yeah,
not
really
talking
tck
now,
but
you
know,
each
spec
focus
can
focus
on
their
spec
and
their
world
and
can
without
friction
can
just
get
things
done
and.
B
A
You
know-
and
I
would
be
completely
honest
here
here-
what,
because
we're
working
on
the
jakarta
e9
release
page
with
one
repo
that
one
pr
that
is
working
on,
that
it
bothers
me
that
the
ripple
countdown
facts
send
more
than
80
repos
for
jakarta,
e9
release.
It
bothers
me
so
much
that
what
we
have
delayed
with.
Not,
finally,
you
know,
organizing
the
the
house
of
the
implementations
and
everything
else
is
now
coming
to
affect
us
by
us
providing
lies
that
are
incorrect.
A
A
C
Don't
know
that
that's
true
either.
I
think
the
number
is
like
it
was
like
36
for
e8
and
for
ee9
we're
down
four.
So
it's
like
32.
somewhere
in
that
range.
C
I
think
he
wraps
the
demo,
and
so
when
people
are
watching
you
know
they
they
they
can
stop
the
video
about
five
minutes
ago,
but
the
the
docu
you
know,
can
you
can
you
put
this
script
somewhere
that
people
can
can
access
or
remember
like?
Can
you
put
this
at
least
a
link
to
it
in
the
minutes
or
something
like
that?
B
A
gist,
let
me
yup,
let
me
just
highlight
it
better.
Let's
see.
A
It's
in
a
minute,
but
also
it's
got
I'm
going
to
submit
the
video
of
this
call
always
to
the
collateral
repo
for
contributions
to
the
jakarta
tck,
a
playlist
on
youtube,
and
we
need
a
name
for
this
video
like
because
it's
very
specific
to
tck
run.
You
know
some
add
a
title
in
there
and
all
of
it
is
going
to
be
part
of
that
contribution
to
documentation.
C
And
the
other
question
was
so
looks
like
we.
You
know
we
had
a
discussion
a
while
back
about
using
github
pages
and
and
then
ed
did
some
work
to
move
all
of
the
wiki
into
github
pages.
I
was
expecting.
We
would
then
just
wipe
out
and
clean
out
the
wiki,
so
there
wasn't
repetition.
You
know
people
didn't
have
an
ambiguous.
I
don't
know
which
one
to
update
situation,
but
it
looks
like
we
didn't
do
that
and
then
we
continued
to
work
on
the
wiki
so
now,
which
one
is
the
source
of
truth.
B
Yes,
good
question:
I'm
not
against
the
github
pages.
I
haven't
yet
gone
through
the
you
know
the
the
publishing
or
is.
Is
it
markdown
or
ascii
doc,
I'm
not
even
sure.
D
Right
now
it's
just
straight
data
pages,
so
all
you
do
is
write
to
the
gh
pages.
So
you
know
just
push
something
to
that
branch,
but
we
so
I
don't
think
the
the
committer
group.
D
C
C
C
A
It
so
in
september,
so,
let's
refresh,
I
recommend
that
we
send
a
new
thread
on
that
and
said
this
was
this.
Is
this
has
been
deprecated
the
week?
The
git
pages
are
the
source
of
truth
for
documentation
on
the
tck,
and
actually
it
should
be
for
everything
we
do
under
jakarta
ee.
I
mean.
B
Can
we
do
so
so
here's
some
follow-up
one,
one
of
the
one
of
the
things
I
did
after
we
had
talked,
and
I
guess
we
you
know,
we've
we've
had
voted
in
in
the
mailing
list.
I
don't
remember
now
it
just
it's
just
been
crazy.
The
yeah
yeah
one
of
the
things
yeah
after
that
I
I
had
talked
one-on-one
with
you
know
something
you
know
some.
You
know
some
commit.
You
know
committers
just
one-on-one
in
chat
about.
B
You
know
the
idea
of
let's
say
like
like,
like
the
tck
status
page,
which
we
wanted
updated
frequently
like
every
week
and
at
the
time
we
were
pretty
busy
with
the
you
know.
Ee9
and
you
know
we,
the
concern
is,
if
you
know
if
we
have
to
go
through
github
pages,
to
do
that
which
we
haven't
done
yet
it
just.
B
C
D
You
could
probably
without
a
lot
of
trouble.
Automating,
you
know
an
a
an
update,
just
push
it
to
that
branch.
C
A
So,
the
last
time
in
september,
when
david
demo,
that
he
they
did
use
five
minutes
to
demo
how
to
contribute
to
their
pages.
But
the
call
wasn't
recorded,
I
mean:
are
you
okay
to
to
to
do
the
demo
right
now,
because
I
tried
to
com?
You
know.
Scott
has
been
amazing
at
working
on
the
pages
and
I
wasn't
able
to
contribute
because
for
some
reason
I
forgot
how
to
in
in
the
microprofile
side,
while
using
them
too.
But
I
will
start
the
work
on
that
and
I
really
have
not
started
using
pages
yet.
C
We
can
have
scott
scott's
right
there,
so
basically
just
go
to
the
where
the
the
branch-
oh
no
go
back.
B
B
A
So
now
we
is
going
to
help
us.
C
C
Okay,
now
there's
the
where's,
the
click
click
the
wiki
link.
I
mean
we
didn't
really
need
to
put
it
under
a
directory
called
wiki.
We
could
have
put
it
at
the
root,
but
that's
all
right,
click,
the
wiki
link
and
then
yeah
like
edit
index
html
or
index
md.
C
B
So
this
is
something
that
committers
can
do
just
to
yeah
nine
committers.
Do
it
as
well
and
have
a
have
a
fork
and
yeah.
A
C
Yes,
it
will
fork
the
repo
and
then
you
can
do
a
pull
request
at
yourself.
Afterwards,.
B
D
Could
demo
that
right
now
just
make
your
change.
B
Okay,
let's
see
I'm
drawing
a
blank,
this.
C
D
B
C
C
C
D
B
Yeah
and
oh,
oh,
okay,
silly
just
so.
B
D
A
lot
of
times
a
lot
of
times
the
cache
gets
con.
I
don't
know
your
local
browser
will
get
confused.
A
A
A
So
my
feedback
here
is:
can
we
use
a
new?
I
I
think,
since
you
were
the
one
to
show
us
and
push
this,
are
you
okay
to
send
that
message
to
say
this
is
active
we
and
the
teacher
side.
We
are
populating
this.
There
is
a
demo
on
this
or
just
updating
to
close
that
conversation,
because
david
is
correct.
I
don't
think
we
we,
the
voters,
are
still
happening,
but
we
can
just
update
it
and
make
sure
that
the
other
one
is
deprecated.
D
Do
you
want
to
work
with
the
committee
team
and
yeah
we're
going
to
have
to
go
back
and
refresh
this
with
new
the
newer?
The
newer
updates
right,
because
I
don't
think
this
has
been
touched
in
a
while.
C
B
There
it
yeah
yeah,
I
don't
yeah.
I
don't
know
that
it's,
let's
see,
there's
a
show
yeah.
It
shows
up
in
the
so
it
kind
of
references
you
see,
wiki
in
the
that's
the
wrong
one.
That's
I.
D
I
I,
since
it
wasn't,
it
was
just
a
demo.
I
just
put
it
in
a
subfolder
right,
okay,
you
we,
the
commander
team,
can
decide
whatever
they
want
for
their
for
this
gh
pages.
Sure
right,
I,
I
guess
I'd
hope
that,
eventually
you
know
more
of
the
pc
came
with
you
know.
Oh
okay
material
gets
here,
but
it's
it's
up.
You
know
truly.
B
Yeah
we
we
really
have
the
opportunity
to
you
know
to
have
like
yeah,
there's,
probably
multiple
ways
to
break
it
up.
You
know,
you
know
there
could
be
different
folders
for
different
ee
releases.
D
I
mean
you
can
move
this
to
the
top
and
then
you
can
just
adjust
it
as
you
go.
That's
fine!
Maybe
that's!
Maybe
that's
the
right
thing
to
do
is
okay,
so
just
obliterate
all
of
this
and
pull
it
again
out
of
the
basically
just
do
the
github
archive
transfer
one
from
one
to
the
other.
I
mean
that's
what
I
did.
I
just
checked
it
out
of
the
the
wiki
github,
I'm
sorry
the
wiki
get
repository,
and
then
I
checked
it
into
the
gh
pages
branch.
D
On
the
main
repository
you
have
to
make
some
changes,
because
not
all
the
markup
scene,
I
don't
think
the
markup
home
works
exactly,
but
I
thought
I
wrote
it
all
up
in
the
summary
and
I'd
have
to
go
back
and
look
at
it.
D
C
A
And
then,
let's
add
that
that
owner
of
the
task
in
the
minutes-
and
I
think
it's
cut
this
time-
you
are
the
one
to
send
in
a
different
thread-
not
the
one
that
I
sent
the
access
to
this
call,
but
I
didn't
want
the
minutes
copy
paste
and
also
the
link
to
the
update
of
you
know
like
two
so
that
everyone
gets
to
know
what
we
did
on
this
call.
We
have
eight
more
minutes
to
do,
but
who
wants
to
do
different
items
to
to
do
and
emerson
introduced?
You
are
here.
A
What
do
you
think
on
the
of
the
call
questions
for
about
the
demo.
A
B
Okay,
I
have
a
couple
questions,
just
technical
questions:
I'm
checking
the
script,
I'm
trying
to
map
the
the
repo
with
the
18
tests
that
has
got
run
and
it's
not
yet
clear
to
me.
I
still
still
cloning,
the
repo
and
going
around
and
seeing
I
I
would
like
to
do
a
map
one
to
one
with
the
18
tests
and
the
folders
and
the
repo
currently
to
be
able
to
to
figure
out
what
the
specific
tests
you
were,
making
fail
and
reproduce
the
same
thing
and
I'm
going
through
the
docker
file.
B
But
I
don't
I
don't
see
that
far
clear.
So
so
you
I
so
you're
still
doing
you
know
doing
the
w.
You
know
the
w
getter
the
download
of
the
tck.
B
Did
you
clone
the
reap
the
the
platform
tck
repo
yeah?
Are
you
downloading
yeah,
but
it's
taking
so
long,
so
I
was
trying
to
figure
out
what
is
the
specific
one
to
change
in
order
to
go
there
to
the
suite
and
see
how
the
different
folders
map
with
the
18
test,
you
are
executing.
B
D
B
Downloaded
the
already
you
know,
built
tck
yeah,
I
didn't
download
the
platform
tck
source
repo
just
to
be.
You
know
clear
about
that.
So
if
you,
if
you're
cloning,
the
source
repo,
that's
different
than
I
just
downloaded
the
already
built,
I'm
not
sure
and
I'm
not
sure
which
you're
doing
if
you're
doing
what
I
did
in
the
demo
on
that
I
have
highlighted
on
the
screen
or,
if
you're
doing
a
cl
gate
clone.
B
B
Yep
so
let's
see.
B
So
see
so
I
I
started
out.
I
just
went
into
under
my
you
know:
temp
temp
folder,
I
created
a
demo
folder
and
then
inside
of
the
demo
folder
I
just
yeah.
Maybe.
C
There
we
go
and
then
you
went
to
into
the
car
to
tck
directory,
and
then
you
modified
something
there.
Is
that
what
you
did.
B
Yeah,
so
after
so
after
you
know
running
that,
you
know
you
know
the
commands
in
that
script,
which
you
know
you
know
downloaded.
You
know.
A
B
And
ant,
although
I
think
I
you
I,
I
skipped
the
ant
download,
I
already
have
ants
set
up,
so
I
I
commented
that
out,
but
I
left
it
in
there
in
this
script.
Unc
has
commented
out
things.
If
you
don't
have
an
aunt
you
could
you
know
you
could
do
that?
You
could
do
it.
You
know
you
could
uncomment
everything
and
just
do
it.
You
know
do
that
as
well,
but
anyways
yeah
in
the
you
know
after
unzipping
the
downloaded
tck
it
unzips
into
jakarta
or
ee
tck,
folder
and.
B
In
the
steps
in
the
change
directory,
that's
where
so,
I
had
changed
into
the
jakarta.
Ee
tck
there's
different
elements
under
there
and
let
me
go
into
those
just
for
a
second,
so
we're
going
to
open
up
java,
tck
and
there's
the
source
folder,
which
has
all
the
test
sources
and
that's
what
I
went
into
there's.
Also
sql
folder,
which
has
the
gdl
in
dml
scripts
for
setting
up
the
database
using
derby
is
typical
because
it's
just
you
know
it
just
uses.
B
You
know
a
you
know
java.
You
know
job,
you
don't
have
to
set
up
a
real
server,
but
you
you
can
use
oracle
or
I
think
sybase,
microsoft,
sql
server,
and
you
know
they
were
the
same
one
time.
B
Oh
so
yeah
everything
everything
is
in
here
and
then
the
source
is
under
under
there.
So
when
I
changed
into
there,
I
went
all.
C
B
Okay,
so,
let's
see
so
going
into
source,
calm,
sun
ibm,
the
ibm
folder
was
the
you
know
for
the
the
jbatch
test.
B
Here
we
are,
it's
all
the
different
technologies
and
I
went
by
jpa
and
under
jpa,
there's
a
build
and
you
know
and
script.
You
know
build.xml.
B
B
This
is
not
version
control
this
demo,
this
these
sources
aren't
version
controlled,
so
you
kind
of
you
could
play
with
making
changes
and
adding
and
contributing
your
change
for
an
enhancement.
You
want
to
make
and
contribute
to
show
how
you
know
just
to
test
some
other
part
of,
say
the
gpa
or
chicago
persistence,
spec
that
the
current
tests
aren't
covering
and
you
find
a
similar
place-
and
you
know
in
here
to
make
your
change.
You
can
see.
There's
a
bunch
of
you
know
different
categories
of
tests
for
different
things
and.
B
C
C
If
you
made
a
change
here
and
you
wanted
to
put
it
in
your
repo,
you
could
maybe
like
r
sync
it
back
or
something
like
that,
because
there
is
a
director.
I
don't
know
if
you
want
to
show
scott
where
that
same
stuff
lives
in
in
the
actual
github
repo.
So
people
can
have
an
idea
sure.
A
B
All
the
same
and
here's
the
ibm
jbatch
test,
everything
else
is
under
sun.
On
the
li
on
the
lib,
you
have
like
the
what's
called
the
portent
layer,
which
is
interesting
and,
like
my
favorite,
the
keyword.
C
B
I
don't
I
don't
have
it
sorted,
I
guess
keyword
properties,
which
is
where
all
the
ex
all
the
technologies
that
are
used
for
different
tests
are
specified,
which
is
interesting
so
like
if
you're
adding
a
test,
that's
optional,
it
may
be
a
optional
ejb
30
test
and
the
folder
you
added
to
isn't
marked
optional.
Then
maybe
you
want
to
add
it
to
a
different
folder
that
is
mocked
optional
already,
or
maybe
in
your
in
your
test
that
you're
adding
you
want
to
you.
A
A
All
right,
this
is
amazing,
to
read
you.
B
C
C
B
Yeah
and
yeah
all
the
tcks
include
the
source
and
for
whatever
reason
I
yeah
I
I
I
never
asked,
and
I
I'm
not
quite
sure
why
what
the
reasoning
was
exactly,
but
it's
always
been
a
good
thing
to
have
it,
because
it
helps
you
understand
the
test.
Without
that
source,
you
wouldn't
have
be
able
to
create
a
challenge.
So
that's
probably
the
reason
there
you
wouldn't
be
able.
D
C
B
C
And-
and
you
got
to
just
sit
there
and
look
at
the
test
over
and
over
and
over
again,
oh
well,
I
need
to
change.
You
know.
I
need
to
input
my
code
differently.
So
then
you
got
to
go
back.
A
All
right
so
it's
got,
I
think
you
will
own
the
two
emails
the
minutes
and
then
they
follow
up
correct
because
there
are
some
items
for
you
and
the
minutes.
B
Yeah
yeah.
Well,
what
yeah?
I
guess
I
I
I
had
the
follow-up
and
the
follow-up
is
yeah
github
pages.
Oh,
you
assign
it
to
me.
C
A
I
will
add
it
immediately
to
the
collateral
issue:
collateral
repo.
It
should
be
an
issue
because
I
have
been
dropping.
We
have
been
dropping
the
recordings
into
the
jakarta
community
folder
and
then
from
there
we'll
link
that
to
the
issue,
and
then
they
will
be
imported
into
the
jakarta
pck
mail
list.
So
scott,
if
you
want
that
message,
I
can
just
add
it
here
and
add
you.
A
I
said
this
is
the
issue
that
has
the
the
demo
and
then,
after
that
you
can
send
the
let's
send
the
the
minute
copy
paste
and
what
it
wasn't
discussed.
You
know,
just
you
don't
have
to
just
say:
items
were
not
discussed,
but
whatever
we
discussed
it
just
send
that
copy
paste
of
the
content
plus
the
link.
I
think
that
would
be
fantastic.
Do
you
want
the
issue
before
sending
that
that
that
that
message
to
the
forum
with
the
update.
B
A
B
Think
I
think
the
sending
of
the
message
about
the
github
pages
is
a
separate
thing,
because
I
don't
think
we
can,
because,
although
otherwise
I
won't
be
sending
yeah,
we
have
to
wait
until
I
have
time
to
do
that,
and
I
don't
have
time
to
do
that
right
now.
Exactly.
C
A
A
Yeah,
so
what
I'm
going
to
do?
We
have
another
call
coming
up
as
well,
so
I'm
going
to
end
here
at
that
issue
and
at
later
time
today,
when
you
have
the
time
just
go
in
there,
and
you
know
you
can
just
add
it
to
whatever
we're
working
on
and
that
will
clear
it
up.
There
is
no
rush,
and,
and
with
the
pages
just
you
know
that
that
would
be
a
part
of
the
demo
as
well.
So
I
think
the
the
time
you
will
give
to
this
demo
is
going
to
be
amazing.
C
Yeah
but
put
the
word,
you
know
something
about
editing
tests,
because
you
know
that
was
a
really
important
part
of
the
demo.
Is
that
we're
able
to
you
know
this
is
the
demo
that
shows
how
to
edit
tests.
A
Yep,
that's
good,
that's
great!
That
enables
me
to
create
that
issue
very
soon
as
soon
as
I'm
done.
Okay,
let's
start
recording.
I
wouldn't.