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Discussion of the Board & Officer election proposal in the mailing list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/jenkinsci-dev/vKi9JpxTQxY. Meeting notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1K5dTSqe56chFhDSGNfg_MCy-LmseUs_S3ys_tg60sTs/edit#heading=h.ae5z3dazo3o5
A
Okay,
so
now
we're
recording
the
meeting.
So
basically
we
skip
the
introduction
part
which
is
about
links
to
the
proposal,
and
we
will
be
just
discussing
going
forward.
So
we
stopped
at
the
question
about
bottle
directions.
So
our
going
to
Tracy,
we
don't
have
officer
working
in
parallel
with
both
elections
and
yeah.
There
was
a
question
about
what
officers
mean
officers.
We
have
this
wiki
page,
basically
a
three
officers,
the
events
release.
A
We
have
the
responsibilities
for
security
officer,
social
security
office
that
is
demanded
and
managing
security
pages
for
release
officer
again
is
documented
for
Jenkins
LPS
pages
and
for
vents
officer
it's
a
bit
more
abstract
but
I
believe
the
events
of
such
a
compact
point
for
any
kind
of
events.
Jenkins
is
right:
Alyssa,
yeah,.
A
D
A
Yeah,
here's
another
page,
miss
Tim
Leeds
so
and
here
we
still
have
infrastructure,
so
it's
empty
because
the
fact
that
toilet
was
handed
into
the
infrastructure
officer
position,
but
he
has
never
ran
for
this
position,
so
he
was
just
handing
peak
until
somebody
steps
up
and
unfortunately
that
never
happens.
Maybe
we
could
change
it
with
these
elections.
D
There's
me
what
I
have
in
mine
is
more
someone
are
working
in
the
documentation,
the
website
and
all
the
contents
that
we
have.
So
it's
a
bit
like
what
you're
doing
with
Jenkins
I'll
tell
you
our
Ricky's
doing
with
the
Chinese
websites
it's
more
to
be
aligned
with
one
website,
basically,
whether
one
which
kind
of
contents
we
have
on
those
two
different
websites.
E
D
D
The
first
thing
is,
it
depends
on
what
we
consider
to
be
enough,
what
the
responsibilities
of
an
abuser
we
got
an
investor's
asleep,
either,
obviously,
but
to
meet
more
to
have
someone
that
can
have
a
big
level
understanding
of
all
the
websites
and
to
be
sure
that
you
are
kind
of
aligned
with
all
the
content
that
we
bring
and,
for
example,
if
we
think
that
we
should
encourage
the
community
to
contribute.
On
our
specific,
let's
say,
part
of
the
checking
that
I
owe
to
me
to
be
the
document
officer.
E
Okay,
so
heightening
heightening
awareness,
an
example
I'm
open
to
consider
it
I'd
like
to
double
check
with,
for
instance,
projects
that
are
well
respected,
at
least
from
me,
with
their
documentation
like
the
FreeBSD
project,
to
see
if
they
use
a
documentation
officer
or
how
they
do
it.
Organizationally
I
I,
don't
I,
don't
object.
I,
just
I'm,
not
sure
that
it's
anything
different
than
what
the
special
interest
group
already
is
doing
so.
D
If
you
want
to
have
a
newer
look,
you
can
also
look
at
how
the
communities
project
is
under
documentation.
So
the
communities
project
has
a
document
officer
and
that
person
is
responsible
for
the
website.
But,
for
example,
if
some
technical
change
leads
up
and
under
the
website
like
okay,
you
want
to
move
from
one
specific
and
trying
to
another
one.
But
speed
is
the
responsibility
of
the
document
officer
to
drive
that
that
change.
So
it's
not
only
the
content.
D
C
Just
had
a
look
at
the
references
from
the
original
page,
and
there
is
already
in
that
proposal
it
looked
like
it
was
discussed
to
have
someone
specifically
for
community
and
for
the
website
and
those
who
identified
is
people
who
they
want.
You
know
officers
or
sub
teams,
so
it
seems
like
we
could
have
those
we
probably
need
to
reconcile
them
with
the
cigs
which
have
evolved
since,
since
this.
A
You
could
definitely
do
that
so
the
question:
when
do
we
do
that?
Because
we
can
do
that
the
first
election
round
or,
for
example,
we
could
let
the
border
to
be
formed,
so
the
current
officer
positions
to
be
filled
and
then,
once
the
board
is
running,
we
can
have
another
election
to
add
more
positions
to
add
more
rows
in
order
to
make
the
imputation
efficient,
I'm,
not
sure
whether
we
want
to
treat
then
take
and
kick
in
one
piece.
D
F
Agree
with
that,
I'll
also
state
that
one
of
the
good
reasons
for
having
an
officer
of
the
documents
portion
as
well
as
just
an
addition
to
another
officer,
is
that
acts
as
the
liaison
to
the
board
and
well.
You
can't
really
have
a
lead,
always
been
the
liaison
to
the
board.
An
officer
is
sort
of
that
that
streamline
that's
just
my
opinion.
C
E
A
A
C
A
A
C
Typically
for
the
boards
I've
been
on,
it's
a
function
delegated
to
a
board
member
or
a
subset
of
board
members,
so,
for
instance,
with
CDF,
we
have
the
governing
board
and
about
three
or
four
of
those
will
form
the
budget
committee,
so
I
think,
rather
than
it
necessarily
being
an
independent
role,
it
gets
delegated
what
you
they
can
pick.
Somebody
is.
D
It
a
road,
that's
required,
a
lot
of
work
or
I
mean
how
many
work
do
you
need
to
do
as
a
trader,
because
to
me
there
are
officer,
I
mean
if
you
can,
if
you
look
at,
let
say
infrastructure
events,
and
so
those
position
needs
quite
enough
that
time
to
work
on
those
but
I'm
not
sure
to
understand
what
the
treasurer
really
need
to
do.
I
mean
I
have
an
idea
of
what
it's
supposed
to
do,
but
I
don't
know
if
it
means.
C
A
lot
of
the
main
expenses
will
be
pooled,
so
then
you
get
into
very
Jenkins
specific
things
which
will
try
to
my
guess
would
be
outreach,
efforts,
internships
but
then
yeah.
It
still
would
need
somebody
to
just
sort
of
say
you
know:
how
are
we
managing
this
I
expect
that
still
be
donations
coming
in
for
the
project
and
just
somebody
to
oversee
to
make
sure
we're
being
you
know
financially
responsible,
but
ultimately
it
comes
down
to
the
boards.
That's
part
of
the
board's
responsibility.
D
Yeah
is
it
the
responsibility
of
the
Jenkins
project
to
manage
that
or
is
it
some
asked
because
to
me
the
money
is
owned
by
this
year
and
let's
say
that
I
mean
a
basic
example:
okay,
I
want
to
buy
a
bunch
of
servers,
I
guess
I'm
supposed
to
ask
that
question
to
this
yeah
and
that's
it
yeah,
we'd,
say:
okay,
you
can
buy
that
that's
resore
whatever.
So,
unless
you
understand
what
would
be
the
goal
here
to
have
a
Jenkins
treasure.
C
C
So
maybe
all
the
requests
just
get
allocated
if
they're
approved
or
the
other
thing
might
be-
that
there's
a
budget
given
to
each
project
and
they
have
to
manage
that,
but
it
might
be
more
of
the
former,
in
which
case
the
the
treasurer
overall
becomes
almost
the
liaison
with
the
rest
of
CDF
to
ask
for
money
and
accountability
for
any
requested
money.
Okay,.
C
F
Can
say
for
me
the
CNC
F
in
the
kubernetes.
The
kubernetes
community
refers
to
the
CNCs
budgeting,
so
it
comes
down
from
them.
So
there's
no
separate
treasurer
in
the
kubernetes
community
at
all
falls
to
the
CNC
F
to
do
the
governing,
and
then
somebody
on
the
CNC
F
will
handle
sort
of
the
distribution
of
the
budget,
but
everything
flows
from
the
CNC
effort.
So
that
would
be
much
like
the
CDF
yeah.
A
A
D
C
D
C
I
think
they
need
like
eligible
voters.
So
if
the
existing
board
members
Thailand
poster
cake
and
verify
that
list
and
get
that
to
CDF-
and
it
might
be
the
case
that
the
scale
of
can
run
the
election
to
run
through
the
tooling
and
show
the
various
options
for
how
you
can
configure
it
what's
key
is
already
spoken
to
them.
So
they're,
going
to
run
run
through
a
session
for
that
yeah.
A
D
Yeah
have
access
to
down
to
the
dub,
so
I
can
typically
write
a
script
and
extract
all
the
emails
there
yeah,
and
there
is
another
thing
that
we
can
also
know
is:
how
do
we
consider
someone
who
can
vote
slides?
Is
it
supposed
to
be
easy?
Is
it
supposed
to
be
on
the
account
ejector
for
at
least
one
year.
C
A
A
C
A
It's
not
because
you
need
explicit
consent
for
gdpr
there's.
You
know
all
the
sides
you're
harassing
caused
by
user
agreements,
so
all
Frank
opt-out
doesn't
solve
the
legal
concern.
If
you
care
about
it,
if
we
do
it
in
inverse
way,
we
send
emails
and
ask
them
to
fill
in
a
form
like
I
would
like
to
participate
in
election
I
agree
sharing.
E
C
D
The
only
thing,
the
only
thing
that
you
have
is
just
we
have
been
open.
We
have
just
met
database,
so
I
have
to
explore,
extract
all
the
emails
and
then
write
a
script
on.
So
what
about
us
and
that
we
have
a
SendGrid
accounts,
but
you
then
use
to
send
email
and
in
the
same
grid
icon.
We
can
just
put
a
CSV
or
something
like
that,
but
we
never
I
mean
I,
never
tried
that
in
the
past
and
considering
the
amount
of
user
that
you
have.
C
B
A
D
D
A
C
C
E
F
E
The
rules,
okay,
so
so
the
fundamental
question
is
what
what
are
we
allowed
to
do
with
the
information
that
we
have
collected?
The
information
is
has
been
collected
legitimately
well
before
the
enactment
of
gdpr,
but
can
we
actually
use
it
now
that
gdpr
is
in
force
to
contact
these
people
and,
if
so,
how.
C
The
main
thing
I'd
say
you
know
just
don't
expect
a
straightforward
answer:
I
think
new
regulations,
everybody's
trying
to
figure
out
what
it
means
and
there's
an
extent
like
I
know.
The
foundations
have
in
the
past,
used
to
be
care
of
consultants
they
overall
kind
of
set
up,
but
so
what,
whenever,
as
far
as
having
to
engage
in
gdpr
consultant?
So
it's
going
to
be
a
best
recommendation
for
people
with
experience.
E
A
F
F
C
F
C
A
A
F
Okay,
okay,
so
there
may
be
I,
don't
know
if
it's
it's
possible
for
this
particular
body
of
work,
but
we
really
should
make
that
clear
in
documentation
online
somewhere
like
what
the
true
processes
and
the
reason
that
I
think
that
is
important
is
just
for
clarity,
but
secondly,
and
probably
more
importantly,
is
to
show
that
the
process
is
not
skewed.
If
you
lay
it
out,
you
see
exactly
what
it
is.
Nobody
can
say:
Oh
see
this
wasn't
pear
or
something
like
that.
A
A
Basically
not
transparent
on
the
level,
because
both
mailing
list
is
private
and
our
current
board
election
protests
exclusively
says
that
both
reserve
the
right
to
filter
out
applications.
So
if
you
ask
about
the
transparency
on
the
board
level,
there
is
no
transparency
right
now.
Would
it
be
a
concern
for
your
market
I.
F
Think
if
we
want
to
operate
as
a
true
open
source
project,
we
want
to
make
sure
everything
is
transparent
to
everybody
and
nothing
is
sort
of
done
behind
everybody
has
a
seat
at
the
table.
I'll
give
you
a
good
example.
There's
a
large
discussion
currently
happening
literally
yesterday
in
regards
to
the
NGO
community
and
how
that
process
is
taking
place
and
it's
becoming
a
very
hot
button
topic
and
it's
I
would
hate
to
see
the
Jenkins
community
go
down
that
same
route.
Where
infighting
and
starts
so
the
clearer.
F
C
Very
clear
on
the
process:
I
think
it's
fine
to
say
you
know
the
Board
meets
and
they
come
up
with
some
decisions.
I
think
it's
always
hard
to
discuss
people
in
an
open
way
like
those
elements
of
boards
are
always
any
personnel
issues
can't
be
held
in
a
public
way
and
and
are
very
sensitive
but
I
think
having
it
as
clear
as
possible,
and
I
just
noticed
that
in
that
sub
team
proposal,
they
there
is
more
of
an
appointment
process
which
includes
soliciting
comments
from
the
community
after
people
have
been
appointed.
C
A
So
one
of
the
ways
to
make
it
more
public
would
be
to
firstly
make
lists
of
applications
public
and
the
list
of
rejections
public
so
that
everybody
can
see
who
applied
and
who
was
excluded
from
the
final
ballot,
but
yeah
I'm,
not
yeah.
So
what's
your
opinion
about
the
Tracy?
Would
it
be
still
problematic
discussions.
C
Whatever
reason
the
board
decides
that
one
should
be
given
feedback,
but
I
don't
think
it
should.
They
should
be
named.
Like
I
think
you
can
say,
we
had
X
number
of
people
run
for
this
position
of
those
people.
Here
were
the
nominees
who
were
put
forward
and
in
some
ways
you
know
it's
no
different
from
sharing
Y
people's
conference
talks
get
rejected.
It's
very
hard
to
talk
about
that
publicly.
But,
yes,
only
sharing
the
numbers
is
good.
C
B
F
The
voting
process
now
the
way
I
understand
it,
and
this
is
another
part-
that's
not
so
clear
until
I
saw
the
second
document
that
you
just
got
you
posted
this
morning
or
like
so
thank
you
for
that.
I
believe
that
the
election
process
is
basically
done
by
approval
plus
one
from
emails.
Is
that
a
correct
statement.
C
A
C
D
C
A
C
A
A
A
E
C
C
C
E
D
C
A
Year,
so
it
will
we
need
some
buy-in
from
Tyler,
because
why
single
transferable
vote
happened
is
because
Tyler
had
strong
opinions,
but
it's
the
system
which
we
should
use
and
that's
why
we
ended
up
trying
to
implement
something
now
so
yeah.
This
motion
may
have
issues
tomorrow.
Yeah
having
pretty
explicit
here
would
help
us.
C
Imagine
the
principle
of
single
transferable
vote
in
the
principle
behind
it
was
to
get
people
elected
from
one
election
thing,
but
and
I
think
that
principle
is
met
by
the
new
system.
So
I
think
is
making
sure
that
here
and
we
separate
the
system
from
the
implementations
which
I
was
kind
of
mixing
together
for
practical
reasons,
but
clarity,
discussion.
A
A
A
A
Yeah,
so
if
you
follow
the
club
proposal
from
2015,
he's
here
have
election
every
year
election
for
two
people
in
each
year.
So
it
means
that
if
you
follow
the
current
process,
they
elect
only
two
members.
So
if
you
want
to
elect
three
members
because
yeah,
we
know
that
the
new
isn't
connected,
so
we
need
to
amend
the
process.
So
that's
why
I
have
brought
up
at
the
topic
about
Alec
and
three
people
in
the
developers.
My
Olympics.