Jenkins Configuration as Code Project, 19 Jun 2019

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Meeting notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Hm07Q1egWL6VVAqNgu27bcMnqNZhYJmXKRvknVw4Y84/edit

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Okay, now it's being recorded and yeah they just a message: I see that hangoutsonair is going away later this year. So probably later, we will need to think what we use as a Jenkins project regarding.

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Yep, probably to audible, yes,.

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It's working yeah.

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Just got an extra card, so my audio check. It doesn't work reliably and yet now I use embedded.

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A full professional set up I know: okay, let's take a look at our agenda, so we have several people on the call to my screen.

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If my setup here I made myself for presenter, the recording should be fine, so we.

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So yeah regarding the agenda. Also, we as usual bit have some news. She will discuss and yeah I just put some topics. I had in mind, so syncing up all ongoing food requests and activities. Then we have Jake asked plug in a computability project. So this way we have you pay on the call, and we also have some J cos test framework enhancements, which underway.

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So, in addition to that, would we want you to discuss any topics today.

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So, let's just press, it is beastly stand here. If something pops up, we can switch to the topic. Okay. So what about news? I guess, since the last meeting two weeks ago, you've got a couple of new releases.

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So yeah definitely be fun, so maybe you Joseph like to summarize it or maybe you teen.

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I'm, just having a look, so there was some references to support. Plugin have been removed in the code and we're no longer publishing it.

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Joseph is currently working on deprecating, of making it clear to users that they should remove it. That should become hopefully.

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There was an issue with exporting node properties, which has been fixed approximate configurated, didn't resolve secrets.

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And there's a new way of testing that was merged last week, I believe or two weeks ago. We haven't publicized it too much because there's a few issues were that we're trying to work on we're the export you we can't do an export roundtrip, which will hopefully have resolved soon. We discussed how to do it at the last meeting and we've also recently had jmh jmh benchmark support merged into cask to use configuration as code to seal up your benchmarks, I believe mm-hmm I think that's about it. For now, yeah.

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Vincent, so this bug is still in common, so it hasn't been released yet but yeah there is a proper convergent because I also wanted to discuss it. Maybe immune agents, the collate and not sure.

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Other change which happened end the project is about security contact so before that Evelyn was security contact, but there was some private conversations of all past weeks, be able to proceed with Joseph Patterson being executed contact. So we will have a discussion about what it implies later, but we have.

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Steps for that, but here now, if anyone needs any issues to generation.

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Education, and if you follow this guideline, you submit a provocation, she will be processed and then the security contact, it's no Joseph will be able to process the decision and we, the security team scheduled immunities together, give them and hangers so yeah. This is a venue process and you probably cannot discuss it more the next weekend, but right now there are some action items. Follow-Up on this topic.

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Okay, so other topics is about JSOC, so you might have seen that there is a notification about the change of the project in the changes developers manage things. So we have you stay on the call. If he's a student was working on that external works project, but he had some changes agreed, he will press, it is configuration code. Yes, oh yeah, this is the current project. You will still need to talk to the website.

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Yeah I know: what do you mean by updating the website blogs, so you mean Z jinkies thought.

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So yeah, so if you feel us the first evaluation, which is cutoff for the next week, there will be a work schedule for jake has plug-in computability. And yes, since you thing is on the skull, maybe you would like to introduce yourself.

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So everyone yeah I'm here you say I- will introduce the reason why we give up the extra workspace manager and that's kind of tough story. That's a little bit tough to say and now I am working on. The Jake asked and I have been going through. The cutter based on Jake asked these days and honestly, it's a little bit difficult for me to find the internal logic of this plugin, as it looks much different than the other plugins. So they're all few points, as I still don't understand by reading.

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Look though I might need some help with them, but then we can discuss it later when we go through this juice off topic.

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Yourself, not the project me.

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Well, like as there is nothing much about myself and 30 year, students in Simon, Fraser University, a Canada and I, was in Georgia University back in China know.

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Working with some configuration as code tools.

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Terraform to provision our infrastructure, so the concept of cask and Jenkins is like um it's like is there there are not a stranger to me so thanks everyone hope we can have a good journey if I can pass the first colony purely evaluation, which is kind of and I'm, not very confident right now, as there is nothing there's, not many results there for me to show to the others. So that's all things you can discuss later only.

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Being usual to discuss it together with mentors okay, so.

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Project think up so yeah. We've had several topics but.

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I'm, just captioning, which was already referenced on the duplication engine yeah that is ballistic reports. I also had a question about.

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This deep annotation indexer because I'm not sure, what's the current revision for the project.

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It looks good, it looks forgotten about look.

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So so yeah we could probably sync up on these stories and yeah. If there is anything else outstanding, just add them to the bottom of the list, but it looks a bit contributed from us good, plug-in itself. Codebase is doing well so yeah. There are some changes like this one by team, but here basically it's you know almost all changes which have been submitted already integrated mmm yeah experts already here poking some reconstruct from plug-in duplication engine.

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So so, in talks with Daniel inside the PR, we can agree that it would be better to do a full implementation.

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Instead of the short-sighted one and the short side, it is to start labeling plugins as deprecated in a certain file under update Center, but we think it would be a better idea to to do the same thing as we did for security warnings to implement a data structure that allows to talk to give reasons why something is deprecated or what what's what this replacing the because usually some people to plugins or they could be that it's deprecated, there's no exit containers or it's deprecated, I.

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Agree, we should try and drive it as an ehh, so right, the meeting this time right now, yep.

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So yeah it's also.

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If you interested.

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Unfortunately, plugins images do not tend to lose installation number, even plugins, which have been duplicated for years, still go into plugins Oh Jake asked I hope it will be better, but yeah. There is a glorious adoption charge for unplugging the essence that really likes to summon 19.

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Yeah, this is what we have I hope. The Tajikistan.

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Okay, milligram blacklisting yet anything else for the to Joseph, nope mm-hm so for blacklist camp.

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That this just needs to use right, yeah.

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Just need to decide how far we want to take it currently I'm, looking at the supplying a file that contributes to it, mmm I've pulled in some of the code from chip, 200, Ivan, Pashto and having tested a year, but so so that change their works. For the specific instance we're trying to fix, they just see how it looks for other instances.

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mmm So it's one of the choice: he is about the oil format because yeah. So this is this long discussion.

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Yeah so here main problem project 100 the year that job 200 was designed for.

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By feels, it hasn't been really designed for methods, but yeah I'm, not sure what would be the approach. We can just assume that you to present the field name, because the educast exports strength crucified anyway, but yeah I. Guess it's the biggest problem. But if you have this engine it would be difficult for you.

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Yeah oh sweet, interesting to see how much you so would actually get so not I'm, not sure that that's something that common.

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It's also a point I'm.

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Not sure where they, even just this would be enough or something slightly more diverse and.

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At least I would say: maybe we could improve it to have a greatest that you're compared against the blacklist, and then we can just improve it. If we need more than we can I think the 200.

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Just extracted to a file, no.

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Not even the file I think just encode list of strings that you look for. There would be one string. We are looking for yeah.

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Yeah I might just do that just to get this over the line, because it will unblock the the testing round-trips.

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Well, I, guess it's only one of the obstacles so there, but it would definitely help.

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So he found written communication. You may see that it's mostly closest but yeah, who knows yeah whatever works for you there and you. If you need any reviews, let's just try to do them in the pull request. So if he ain't knowledge transfer, for example, for housing, 200 works, I can do it later. Even at this code, I mean I.

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Tracked it down eventually mm-hm I, think I. Think I figured it out. No.

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So let's place out- and you already have some estimation I think- should be fine. Yes,.

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Yes, coverlet is there.

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At least for fixing a case mm-hmm.

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Thank you, yeah.

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I had test the JDK one low because it seems that by default, JDK will sit like my local machine quest path, so without ironing edit without configuring it I couldn't test. The other stuff was heaven.

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You can link issues yeah by notations so far. This engine basically does nothing after that, but yeah, presumably for the test under dated at some point, we will be able to collect this date and to use it for some kind of metrics in it always and not a top priority for jinkies developer tools. What yeah, who knows?

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Okay, anything else on that which I think so mmm-hmm yeah I'm, the last one was for volley penetration index. Sorry I just erased it in the chat because yeah I just touched this library of while ago.

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This would request itself looks good to me, but yeah I was trying to track it down to whatever existing story and yet be honest. I was unable to understand what is something still useful for Jake asked I. Think.

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What jake has it's no longer useful? It was while we were having pizza, placket who's, trying to my coders I.

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The main reason for it was, you could blacklist everything and then just have one package API, just a public API yeah.

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Yes, well, maybe else you with a maple pool and mati I think that it's it mostly depends on Danny if you back from Nicola, okay, any other pending changes which needs attention.

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Okay, so here accosting incompatibility project, oh.

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Oh well, let's break it into two parts. The first one is the personal is what I'm doing right now, what I'm doing now right now, just like Joseph, said just a review down my the most recent for requests on external Express manager and looks like waste. You got a lot to fix, but anyway we had some improvements on marking spaces, so the first one is extreme expense manager and the second one is easy to.

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Yes, but the Martin smartest branch is not working. Actually, they made something wrong. So I, just like revert to its some previous commits and started from there. Okay.

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So this is the new one fight yeah.

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This is a new one, and now it can. You can somehow work. Alright I uploaded this HPI to my own Jenkins incidence, and now it can export the desired mo file. I wanted it to export.

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This is it's ongoing, but I might have I need to figure out what Joseph's saying about those. Yes, that's part of my job potential next few days and the easy to plug it. Yes, I've done refactoring.

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So to me, the refactoring is breaking constructors to setters, but I've done factoring on several classes, but that when I move on to the other.

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Other classes, the tests just broke, the paretic cannot Butte. So there are some questions. I need to ask. Maybe team, maybe Oleg, maybe Joseph like how the beta constructor works like there are some beta constructors. That is not. That is not.

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There is some problem with my with my fonts.

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It's too small to the Putin angles: I.

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Don't follow the discussion because yeah there is no pull request in the blinging and yeah I'm, not sure I.

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Actually, last week, I asked in the check a scooter and ask if there is any opening issues about issue 3 and there is someone I, don't know who he is, but he just said he is done all closed out all the related pr's about each party, and he said there is no remaining issues for usage plugin. So that's why I asked all like the what's uh what's the job.

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This is everything this time, so it was kind of confusing I realized, I, buddy refactoring on this, this I didn't clean anywhere trust me I went through all of the PRC, so so there are some problems like, for example, the most one is like.

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So there are some potato bonda constructor C are not simply using this xf s equals ax is alright. They have some like judgments. I, don't know how to break it into your authority.

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Underlying mechanisms- or so there is a follow here. You see to a step when I, when I break this easy to step into databar setters. The hope you just crushed I, don't know why it's kind of it's a simple constructor but I, don't know- or the setter doesn't work here so but I can deliver some questions later and public shoot him in the public email. So that's what I'm Pete I've been to you right now, so.

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So what you could do to make it reviewable for submit pull requests and yeah I'm trying to find the discussion in the church, but he, if I recall correctly, there was a question what to do in Jake asked I said this: one ticket open, yeah, oh yeah, what ticket for what oh yeah right, so I noticed already mesh what else we can improve.

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Yeah I just said that we already discussed it on Wednesday because he last Wednesday we had a meeting on the yes.

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Okay, so so the some days, then this goes to the plants. It's like you know a little plan, I've communicated it with Joseph yeah, so I wouldn't over, like almost all the issues and opening pr's about what my and my two so they're, a sort of there are a sort of issues like supporting multiple sources to, like importantly, configure llamo file. So one is using like this custom header, though Joseph told me to give it a lot, not focus on you anymore.

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Hey tell me to like focusing on some downloading from from from from github and branch I think there is a open issue about it. It's somewhere near.

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Wrench stuff, so what yes get it kidnapped? French I think.

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It's it should be two hundred and something I think I included in here. I just have gotta, have a link here. Well, yeah I think it's fish. Oh.

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You're saying good the screen, because yeah I know that you said this because you said to you and talking yes,.

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One key down branches configuration source, so Joseph told me to work on this, so I'll take a look at and take a look at the source code here. Why I hit this turn up? So small I have no idea.

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I've got to go now: okay,.

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Yeah, thank you. So this is one that singer working on and there's also an a tapestry I'm, not sure if there is any opening shares but I, don't think so and looks like everyone agree, and this is a good point and Austin's FFA experience working with AWS, Java, SDK I think this one together with the github one, might be a good point to start yeah. So I took a look at the the source code.

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The key point in here at the way we like the Jake, asked configuration the web UI is different from other plugins. This has like it's sweet from the new source and then do something here. I think this is the entry point where people like either put it straight on the web.

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So this is an entry point where the user could put it as visual and then the function goes to here and do something like using the llamo sources. Yeah I take a look at the sources where it's easy on sources.

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I read all of the source code here, so I found that maybe I need to add some new Yambol readers- and this is this part of code- is there- is it was a contributor who supports an authentication in the HTTP header? This is Merc.

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For me, if I want to make it work, maybe the web show you I should be like this, so there is a hit Europe Haiti roll property like okay. There is a drop down. Anyone I can choose what kind of forced to use, maybe a DFS tree, costume, heavy HTTP or glass of orange, or something like that.

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Complete configuration serves, as extension point in Jenkins usability to define it in begins, because we unlikely want to have AWS client directly. Petitioners could plug in yes, of course, yeah I think what it would be, a pity, a big story when and unfold what for work to be done.

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So the central plant itself is easier when defined. Qi in service is also easy, because it's just described describable drop-down whatever, so the regs implementations which you can use the real problem comes from the fact that you need to use with this extension point in the code. So it's not on the air, what you're using it to have on all underground project.

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You probably need to somehow be able to configure the source so that the change is visible to both the computation and startup from a double years, because I don't think it makes sense to load it on different web UI. Maybe Joseph could comment on that theory. It might be a pretty big story.

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Is the the request, the request, the require logging on startup from AWS.

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Definitely require, let's plug in something that authenticates against it. You.

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Know it means it would be an extensional point, so Jake asked plugin. First, you would need to resolve URL and Casca jenkins configure to understand which extension point to trigger. Then they will build this config load in collage ik. You may also need refactoring, because currently the whole logic is an entity around definitely makes.

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For easy, our three secrets.

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Or I cannot secrets, but it's definitely something with Zika.

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So potentially it could be the same plug in the heart, rename it origin, but you may be, you can accept it against all sake,.

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So this you can live that discuss in today's world and at the NSA I like I, said I, guess it is, as you know, I just transferred from the previous project to this one and so I never experienced any treaties. Actually I didn't have any Cadiz in the previous previous project, though I required one I think, but there's no time for to be ok, gzip, which is kind of if, honestly, without Cadiz I it's hard for me to the prominent progress SS and.

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To find out I don't really need to read the documentation. I need to find out. Where should I find this documentation so I.

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From the beginning for the previous project, hired quested knowledge transfers, because what they have.

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They send us a list of information. We need to know would be successful on the project. Yes,.

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You know I wouldn't add the community bunting. We had the bidding until fertile until the last week, which is kind of.

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That means with students anyway, what we live in diem students anyway, independent.

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Keys in the previous project, I would say it's not only a problem of mentors regarding key key for this project. Yeah it gives you that kiki is something we need, but in order to have kiki is we need to understand what information you want to get.

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Again there might be, but oh I think there should be something.

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Like yeah and then yeah, so let's do the I think. That's all for my plan. I've been figuring out all this.

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Days, okay, yeah.

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Thank you, so I'll probably just make some notes and yeah.

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I'm just trying to.

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Yeah, so maybe it's something you need to think about. So if you approach it in such way,.

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You in a fortnight, okay.

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So yeah I'll probably pick you later because we need to discuss base security, stuff, yeah I got it okay, so.

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So yeah one topic issues left two agendas and Jocasta just performance, enhancement, yeah. You have this body quest which has been already integrated, so the story behind that you basically have a blog post. We should fish and it's just almost ready to go about this one, but you basically, these most exciting and put so the part of the pick us on this call.

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Yeah, we DS the students working on the project.

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mmm Oh one question here is what would be key for the next. Ladies.

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So you post the main problem and that current release doesn't really include any functional changes. I mean the only changes in the test framework. Okay, now we have easy to plug in parameters duplicated. Oh, it's documentation.

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Maybe we could add something because our main problem, that, if we cut it, is now it's not a release for users, which is probably okay, but it's better to edit.

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This one, okay, so yeah. If it helps to deliver this change, yeah I'm ready to take it.

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It Stanley there would be a at least a also a user-facing change, I guess. Well, if.

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Yeah, medium, okay, so yeah.

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So yeah I can take it.

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It's possible: it's not a part of your project goals, so.

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Just default, you see I'm, not sure what has to be done here. Okay, then it's better.

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Than if I just take it, because it's a long story so maybe but if I just do it.

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Okay, so we take it maybe by tomorrow no commitment but yells right.

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Good yeah story of this meeting took so long. It may be using Internet how to optimize that, for example, no to request or whatever so yeah. Maybe it's a question for you Joseph and the team, if you feel sorry not useful for the meeting quick and just cut them.

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Okay, so here then thanks, everybody I will stop the call the if you Joseph good thing for a second yeah. You can discuss some other bits thanks. Everybody.