Jenkins Configuration as Code Project, 11 Jul 2018

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Description

Let's talk Jenkins Configuration as Code

- current issues
- hot topics
- plans for the future

On Jul 11 we will also have a discussion about the Simple Pull Request Job project, which uses the JCasC engine to define Pipeline as YAML.

Meeting is open to anyone who wants to join.

A

Jenkins configuration as code status call. We have regular calls every two weeks in order to sync up regarding project status and I'm going activities. If you're interested to get more information about the current projects, you can just go to our resources, just a second to a screen share: okay, so yeah what you can see that we have a Jenkins configuration as co-channel, where we have discussions and the way we can discuss all topics and we post participants links to the status updates there.

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So, if you want to join, you can just join the channel and participate in the discussions and regarding status notes. We have a Google Doc for all kinds of discussions and meeting notes, so I will put that into the chat again to the today's meeting notes and we will be updating them during the session.

A

Okay, so yeah. This is what we have for the meeting and regarding participants. We have funicular the loop on the call. Then we have months.

A

Yeah, my name is Alec, you know Java and we also have abrasion Gautam who joined us in order to talk about integration between simple pull request, job plugin and Jenny's configurations code, but yeah I think we should start from common I. Think up so yeah.

A

Let's just talk what we've achieved over last two weeks, so Nicola. Would you mind if you, if we start from you.

B

B

So so, in the past days, I'm, mostly working on stabilizing beginning value suspects, so getting feedback from users get a be shoes and and trying to to fix everything and get things polish, so we can have a risk engage.

B

We also have some pending discussion on backward compatibility that will need to be addressed at some point and most recent additions were to introduce rest and rest api and CLI. So one can push configuration and check for configuration, so validate confusion, fight before get applied, which probably is something that could help in in this backward compatibility issue.

B

So sometimes you can just get your config being broken because you updated a plug-in or something like that, so that exactly so some driver and mod that will report at least people that the country ation is broken and I'm investigating ways to offer some diagnostic, some automated diagnostic, so that gks could be able to say that this attribute is unsupported and should be at least level in the geometry, because it can't detect that this attribute execs. It is somewhere else. That's that's something that I I really would like to see not trivial. But let's write.

B

Multi my current status, okay, thank.

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C

Yeah I have been on vacation, so I haven't done much since last office. Hours, meeting, um I'm, just I've done a bit of documentation, work and they're, trying out the getting that the documentation for the plug installation in so I've just been doing a bit of documentation. I haven't done much work since last.

C

We are looking forward to getting our customers to use this thing.

C

It has a lot of promise, and hopefully, with with one want you ironed out the box there we it would be, it would be something we can put into production mm-hmm.

C

So that's what I've been doing yeah, not much else to add. I looked over the some of the issues and- and we probably knew some of them are kind of hard to understand- to be honest, at least if they need to be done from an outsider.

C

Yeah but that's.

A

What I've been up to okay cool? Thank you so, regarding to my cell from yeah yeah, it didn't go too much. This iteration as well. Yeah I was mostly focusing, but compatibility and other requirements topics. So I was really creating issues. So then close included. Sorry about that.

A

Yeah I also did a bunch of reviews.

A

Regarding next steps needs to have the attachment.

A

Integrator API to a separate, plugin and I think it would be the next thing. I will be working on I'm, also working on record compatibility page. So as we discussed before we, you rather need something in order to demonstrate at the current status of support, I've started from wiki page immediately. She didn't work well because um yeah actually I can just show it gently. Cia configuration is good plug-in so yeah here I have.

A

Compatibility be okay, so I've started from classic a wiki page. We had for compatibility issues. So probably you have already seen wagons affected by the 200, so just a long long list of all wishes with fixes. So it's a kind of landing page for users who want to understand what they need to update. It, cetera I, wanted to create something for Jake asked, but before doing that, I wanted to automate the process a bit.

A

So instead of that having some jitter queries or whatever in order to simplify the thing- and this is the first result and by the teacher equities, I- don't work reliably in our controls page. So I worked a bit with Danielle back in order to create new released s field um and yeah, currently I'm trying to introducing new dashboard for that.

A

Second, okay, so something like that so far, it doesn't look pretty but yeah. The main advantage sure that you don't need to do it anything excepting setting one Jake, ask compatibility label and here obviously I'll try to refactor it to make it better so yeah, it's what I want to finalize by the end of this week. So we have it for the release candidate, maybe wiki or maybe some automated think by JIRA TBD.

A

Yes, so, unfortunately, we don't have really known the call but yeah from the list of pull requests. She is working on.

A

She is working on documentation updates, so there is a big pull request and also we have a counterpart to the request against Jane in seong.

A

So I think my focus is to get documentation and landing pages over the friends. So by the time we have release candidate, everything is published on the jinkies website. Actually, it's one of the main goals in no wonder zero. Everything.

A

So here we captured everything for every Deena. Oh my missing something thank.

C

You you got it he's also having it had vacation. So Zoey and I remember her talking about things. Okay,.

A

Thank you Abhishek. Would you like to share something in context of Le Coq.

A

Just in case, you are muted.

A

Okay, so you could do quick status update for Bishop, so Abhishek is working on a simple political cuesta job like in a part of google Summer of Code, and one of the tasks for this iteration was to introduce configurable steps in llamo.

A

So the main idea of the plugin is to have pipeline multi branch, in definition a CMO, and yet, in order to do that, we decided to use some bits of Jake asked and the word from what I see a bishop tried to dis his keys, and he has a little bit reported few related issues about the plugin. So, for example, logic has compatibility in JIRA, test, publisher, etc. The use case is pretty specific. It's not exactly system configurations code right now.

A

It's steps configuration but yeah I think it's still a kind of useful experiment computability, because he at some point even a jackass, but in itself may need such configuration for steps and yeah I guess we will have a demo after there wonders zero, releasing up.

A

Yeah thanks Nicola for solving cubics, achieves enum types support this. It was one issue, a missing color in the Jake asked engine.

B

Yeah, probably some small corner case, at least one, that the API is stable enough, so that we can easily introduce such support now. Mm-Hmm I'm just trying.

A

To find a ticket for it, okay should be somewhere.

A

Okay, I'll find it later.

A

So we are, let's talk a bit about 1.0 release candidate, so the when we had that just status meeting we have created milestones for final release and for the release candidate. So let's take a look at the milestone.

A

So one of the things I see that we have had a plan to release one the 0hc by July 15th. So it's something like in four days yeah. So what I want to ask you guys is whether it's still a plan or do we need to do some adjustments.

C

um If you look at the milestone right- yes, there is only there is form, must must have issues and we need. We ever need to move them out of there, I've stolen or close them before you into release your way and you're. Waiting on that compatibility, dashboard and you plan to have that done right within the lease. So that's one pound mm-hmm, then there's the issue 277 with the Magna tension points API as beta and.

A

Yeah I think it's something I could do or maybe Nicola has already done a bit of it. Oh yeah.

C

Yeah it's, it sounds, look simple, but I I don't have enough hair knowledge to know what classes I need to add. Actually, so so I think it's probably.

A

C

Probably doing like it all right or something yeah.

A

You probably even less yeah so yeah self-centered is he should to myself so yeah. Try to do today.

C

Then there's they move several configurators on outside of the Jenkins element. It's not it's. To be honest. Disney she's not really described well enough to be workable.

A

Yes, so one of the issues we hit with that recently compatibility for global configuration things. So the issue is after free plugin, there was global configuration section, but it was moved from one category to another and the default it breaks. Compatibility with Jake asked you to configuration outside Jenkins element. Oh, it's not a bloated for the release, but yet guess this is a topic which is somewhat related.

A

Nicola has proposed a patch for that, but you had the program and that this patch is probably yeah. So we means some discussion at least before it gets integrated, get this one.

A

So the main problem of this patch that it just skips category check. So it means that you can apply a global configuration to each could be boring, independent of a way it's located. It's perfectly fine from the compatibility point of view, but on the other hand it doesn't allow similar symbols in different categories. So it might be a mission.

B

Yeah a major risk. We have to address these collisions between symbols. Oh yeah,.

A

We've also known as.

B

Symbols are supposed to be unique from an epee I point of view, but if we consider all descriptors on drinking's there is a huge risk. That's why we get some collisions of point right.

A

So collisions and symbol names edit, is designed so symbols I expected to have collisions, but yet the problem and that nobody has ever documented when they make a light and the way and they shouldn't collide so yeah. It's a tricky part to.

C

Be honest once 110 I, don't think it needs to go into the release.

C

That's issue number 110 right.

A

Just second I'll open the mouth stone again.

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A

Yes, the main problem of that yeah. If we do not remove configuration now and move it later, it will break compatibility for the next candidate users. Okay,.

C

So we are not allowed to break on ability, really engage.

A

You're allowed to do that, but it may be not a pleasant experience for users. Okay, so for these candidates we don't have explicit process in Jenkins project, but yeah I would say that the release candidate employee, so that something may go wrong. Clear. Okay,.

A

So I guess so that's why this ticket has been added to the release candidate milestone. It gets the result before we release.

A

Oh yeah Nicola are working on it now. Oh, is it evil Nina.

B

I'm, so I must lead on this specific aspect. Don't don't have some bending change for it.

A

So maybe it would good to have some status update there, or maybe we could break down these tasks and call those particular needs mm-hmm, so that it becomes clear what is the status yeah.

B

A

We have a look today.

C

And then the last must-have issue right: hmm that's the users should be warned about invalid condition, but I guess that ties into the the rest thingy. You guys have been working on where you can submit a partial configuration as a funny guy.

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C

And like validate.

A

Right or another way, you would be to just run dry dry run mode before running the full mode. So each time somebody submits configuration, we first run dry run in order to verify the configuration and if it passes we're only in a full mode.

A

Yeah yeah I think that even if it's the driver- and we can formally close for this ticket but yeah if the dry run happens automatically, it could improve the verification flow a lot. But you know in this case it doubles the execution time or maybe not doubles, but you really impact of execution time, but.

C

Instantaneous, isn't it anyways now I.

C

And maybe that's because I'm working on small ya know filed, but when I'm using this thing, it's like you to try so long I, wouldn't notice, I think well.

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C

A

I also help on the small configuration files so far, so the biggest think I've ever tried to do with something like 50 generated projects.

A

It worked pretty fast, so I kind of grumble, but I'm not sure what would be the case for production installations.

C

That's also that's what is the use cases, however, this isn't something people expect so like. This is something to do every second or every day, something they click every hours. Every weekday.

C

A can you can you document that dry run mode is that is that is that mentioned anywhere and in the API I didn't know that we had it as.

B

Ati, you know how to check metal so okay, explicit, and you also have check REST API and check configuration July.

C

B

Are actual implementation is based at the lower level, as Europe limitation is based on running the configuration with a drive, try one flag so that we don't actually applies the resulting configuration, as this is only used to avoid contribution, but at the higher level you have to explicit metals. Okay,.

C

Okay, it's documented, so people can use it if they desire all right.

B

Depends what you mean by document is defining.

C

Through the top level of ta yeah, okay, good, it's mentioned somewhere in the readme that you can do dry, run.

C

A

Yeah just raise the question to boot on this and what he expects to be there. Yeah I just said it's my proposal, mm-hmm. If somebody wants to implement it, it could improve the behavior a bit because yeah you wouldn't need special folks, yeah.

C

I can I can take a chat with you.

C

That would be nice.

A

Okay, it would be great so yeah, it's just for player, one releases in addition to that. In this experiment we have yeah. What do we have? Okay, this may be an HP era. I didn't resolve it so far and I think it's something. I need to do, but yeah the main problem that it causes.

A

You know it may require patches in sis post library and they are not 100% sure how to do them. So maybe I will just refactor the extension point I've created in order to avoid this issue is class loading.

C

A

Just specific to the general, the launcher class, because the general, the launcher cross loads, janki's clause and then Jenkins class, lo lots lots of the things, including all kinds of admin, color, balls, etc. So it becomes really really big entity to be loaded.

A

Yeah, probably I will just reflect that at the logic. Somehow, so everything comes from yeah everything actually comes from here, I mean using please meet in order to ensure that the extension is optional. Yeah.

C

A

Here technically, I can just remove for optional flock right this clause, and then it will be loaded correctly. So it's something to beanie, okay, okay, what tells.

A

In getting started, documentation working progress by valina, yeah.

C

I can ask and state is nothing my issue after.

A

The call I get create a Jake ask sub-project, it's definitely working progress as well.

A

So actually it seems we don't cook.

C

Yeah, because I see that at least three of the four can be closed within the week right, yeah, the the only one I see that might be blogging is the 110.

C

This corporators outside of kink is the element.

A

Yeah but yeah I think that Nikhil already did a lot of work here so yeah. Maybe we just need her to understand what still needs to be done.

A

So um I really think any other stories in the release: candidate, I.

C

Think it's good and one thing I notice is that we actually we actually, we actually did it more like the camp and approached a couple of issues got ejected with the in own thing and and the Maven installer things also got added. So we've we put in more more work in the release Kennedy than we actually planned. Yeah.

A

Right so that's.

C

A

Yeah, that's right so yeah guys if you want to have something to be added to the scope just edit to the milestone. So it was quite a penny. At least we created the first median Chris Evelina in June, so yeah. The plan may have changed since that. So if you see any other issues to be resolved for the release candidate and probably more important for the final release, just them two milestones.

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C

Is there is, there, is the schedule very important? We will get Julie to be released on the 15th. You guys think that you have time to to solve all the must-haves before the date. I.

A

Guess it's rather so for my tickets, this one I believe I can do this. One I believe I can do at least one if I do not do that. It's not a problem, because the API is a restricted anyway, yeah and also not prior to 1. So it strictly doesn't need to go into.

C

The Reeves mm-hmm.

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C

But I don't know about the rest of them, but is this? Do we believe we can redo a release any date before the 50.

A

So yeah I would rather prefer to be on the safe side and say in July Eaton's, so we have a week, but he I'm not sure what is the schedule and what is the demand on your side? I.

C

Have the only thing we talked about was the thinking's world and the events coming up, and we just wanted to have something in the official updates in that before that date.

C

So I'm, okay, with moving in three days by.

A

Then yes, it's sort of a question Evelina. So personally, I don't have a strong preference regarding the release date. I'm perfectly final result for releases.

C

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C

Yeah we can ask you know what she prefers. Yeah, you have any anything if you say less about this, no.

B

Professor okay,.

A

Yeah yeah so I guess we just try to close these things us up and then which one we ship, because yeah I think the main you think for release. Kennedy is rather promotion, I'm, not sure whether we really need to eat or not, but yeah generally having Jenny say your announcement like a blog post is something we could benefit from when all these compatibility pages are ready so that we can start processing the feedback from the field and undressing bit yeah.

A

Because one of the major issues we have a headcase plugin compatibility because yep even now is just so. We have created a Lib label. We already have something like 12 tickets there, but they are mostly related to Jake asked itself. Yeah I think that we will hit her no plugins, which need to be updated. So we have luckily plug-in, has been already updated. A bit ownership plug-in artifact manager, s3 reported by batiste for the a Jenkins essentials project.

A

Then we have remote in Kafka in JSOC, which also needs patches and easy to plug-in, also reported by batiste, so Jenkins essentials team is already adopting configuration is called plug-in and that base will have more feedback from them.

C

Is this some of this some of the things that I might be able to like submit pull requests for? Can you can you can you can you wanna know? Can you put the link in the message box or they feel that you created, so that would mean they they that you reissue Pinda. Can you put that in a day out check? Oh, yes, oh yeah, I.

A

Just need to find the Hunger Church, okay, cool.

C

A

Yeah I think that yeah, if you see or if you know about other compatibility issues, I think it already makes sense to start reporting to these tickets yeah so that we start feeling another content. And here my my action item. Mr. Chia get the speech somehow published.

C

Yeah and that's I guess I, just put it on the wiki. A little bit read meet RMD file for now that work, yeah yeah.

A

It would be much easier it Aquarius worked on in weekend, but they don't oh wow yeah, so I will threaten by the dashboard. Here. That's why I've started created at Creighton cabbage, but in Jenkins, JIRA, okay, okay, so Jake as compatibility so likely I will start from just putting it there, which yeah. Probably it's not a 100% approach because hey we still have plugins which do not use Judah as a main but trigger so, for example, docker plug-in mainly uses github issues and there are search plugins so likely.

A

We need to still add some flexibility, but I wanted to avoid the case. We had project 200 when all these things we have manual, it's okay, if consumes lots time for my own Keener's.

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A

Okay, so yeah it guess. That's it.

A

Okay, so something quickly: yeah, okay, so simple, request, job pinyin, I think we could spend some time and let Abhishek present his project and then going contaminations because it may be interesting for participants. So Abhishek. Are you ready.

A

Yes, okay, so yeah, then the floor is yours and thanks for your time when and thanks for joining clearly meeting.

D

So I will share my screen yeah if you prefer.

D

Yeah, can you see my screen? Yes,.

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D

Industry workers power, individual gigas, plugging into life into my plugin and I'm, using the COS plug-in to.

D

To create step objects so that I can use snippet Iser dot object to do we function to create a snippet for for a step.

A

Maybe it would make sense to start from examples of ml definitions and yeah. You couldn't really explain what the goal, what is the goal of the project? Because not everybody actively participates in google Summer of Code.

D

Okay, so yeah we have as a format for jump inside of my. Why am L in which we have stages property and then that we have, we will have an array, ah speed, U and then, in that we have steps. Steps are there, which will really find like this. This will be the name of the step and then the parameters.

D

So what I wanted here was that to take take the informations of steps and then somehow.

D

Pipeline snippet, so that we can use these steps in the pipeline yeah, so fool for that. I have a step on character, function and I, am fantastic environment file and to Java object.

D

So in here what I am doing is if a step, if user provide only one parameter, then it will be a default parameter and I am using configurator dot get data bound. Constructor and I am passing the class of that step so that I will get a constructor and then I am just using concertedly instance to create object for that step, and then I will call snippet tiger dot the object to be function to create a snippet for that.

D

But if users will give more objects in more parameters for the for a single step, then I I am I, have three functions which are do mapping for map do mapping for scalar, and so what I found was.

D

If we need turn creator object, we need to pass a mapping object. Asti node object in configurator dot, config function, so I am building a mapping object to the parameters from the parameters that way I will get from the vinyl file. So these three functions do mapping for scared of marine who sit and do nothing or map are doing that. One way.

D

And then I am just using I will get a configurator from controller to look up and pass. I will pass the class of the object. Then I will get controller and I will call the consulate or console and pass the mannequin object so that I will get a step object and then again I will use an appetizer dot of the two GUI to get the snippet of that step and I guess it in the pipeline network code appropriately yeah. So this is how I am using Jake as plugin for this to generate snippets for steps.

A

So effectively it's a universal engine which allows to create to convert Yama definitions to pipeline code.

A

A

Looks relieved and there what is your experience so far about this engine.

D

Yes, as already mentioned, I got some problem with nm classes and they do the computer dot. Lookups method was returning null for for a Java, util dot, concurrent time units class, that is a new class and yeah I, have created a facial fallback also here and I. Think it's been fixed by Nicolas in PR and one more issue. I got.

D

Yeah, it was to configure JIRA test data publisher class in that.

D

There is some i1, it gives nullpointerexception or a rest client.

D

D

Nikolas said that.

D

Many others and jairam test publishers de spectra using manual written data back and Nicole, so yeah. This is the problem I am facing, and it may be the case with other chemicals and steps also.

D

A

A problem for many old plugins, so I mean hot some course. Maybe before 1.2 hundred or so I didn't have read the data binding PP guys so like in developers we're implementing processing of JSON objects on their own yep. It has changed years ago, but we still have this code in some plugins yeah I. Guess it's not a problem for your project, but here for Jake asked project. It's like a problem when the same happens in.

A

System configurations so, for example, we had matrix authorization, plug-in oral strategy plug-in which had similar issues, and yet that gets our response is to create custom configurators for that or to just update the plugins to new EP. So the tragic ask starts supporting them automatically.

A

Ok, so what do you think guys I.

C

Am I prefer to fix it in the plug-in many of these plugins they could use an update with the new items about data binding I.

C

Don't know if that general is that a generic use case or some method that can be used on every single of these cases to fix compatibility issues well,.

A

Let us know about it as always: yes, in some cases of cool, of course, we could convert llamo to JSON, and then you fit this JSON to the plug-in descriptor a new instance and to see what happens yeah.

D

A

It guess Niccolo was against such approach and I would rather second down that, because this approach is extremely risky.

A

You never know what's going to happen because the descriptors are quite obsolete, they may be checking technicians, they may be accessing runtime and we, if you wrote, Yama's to JSON of forums and then to configuration. It's not clear. What's going to happen after that,.

A

Okay, back to simple pull request to job plug-in. So what do you think about such kinds of integrations? Is it something you considered when you start working on the plug-in and yeah? Is it something useful from your point of view and.

C

I'm, from my point of view, it's a I need and II just no more. What well? How does this? What what happened for the simple plug-in? What are you? Are you using this Yambol? Is it something you are you putting into the configuration of the plug-in or are you can you? Can you show us an example of what how this ties into Jake ask how it's working, because I'm like mmm I'm, not sure what it, what a problem you're solving at the moment.

A

So maybe it makes us just show example repository.

A

Yeah, actually, you can show what you prefer. It's also, this question.

D

Yeah, so the meaning of these plugins to define the job or adequately a pipeline as easy I am biml, so what I am doing for that is I have all these things and defined here classes for all of these things here and when I parse. This Vimal I will get all the all the contribution in this class Vimal pipeline.

D

So in that I have one thing that is step in that will be at the stages class and now I need to convert this step object. This can be anything echo, shell or something I need to convert this step, object to to table pipeline code that will that will be able to run that's that.

B

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A

From user perspective, the idea that you have a repository currently you can define jenkins file, which is a definition for pipeline which can be used in multiple range to create automatic CI CD, for you ranges, and the idea was to have something like that for young definitions. So it's a kind of holy war. Some people like.

A

Gamma law or the modeling languages, some people just picture programming languages, and yet the idea of this plugin was told for a llamo engine which allows configuring jobs easily. So yeah, that's what has been created and yeah before that there were several reference implementations. For example, Nicola has created a code ship plug in and there you go other yellow-based plugins, oh yeah. This is an implementation which also introduces such multi branch definition, but as llamo and the Yamal gets converted to declarative pipeline now, ok.

C

But where one question, where is this: where is this yellow stored? Is it something to configure in the symbol, pool request a plug-in, or so we are most often there is cm. Ok, so ok, ok, ok and then you just point to the the ok but ok.

D

Yeah, the yml file will be stored in the repository and the plug-in will pull and fetch the vinyl tile and then create a decorator pipeline pool. Ok,.

C

D

Yes, so, like you can see here, we have stage 1 and we have these steps, a shell step, slip, step and jiaying step. So when I build it and this pipeline for having a little okay and stage 1- and these are the 5 steps. Ok,.

A

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C

That make more sense. Oh it's beta! Just you just just taking the you, just take the GUI pipeline and made into Emily, and then you get out movie pipeline and you can use the that jks configurator to configure all the stuff in Converse. Oh.

A

Right, so they do that the plug-in will have its own extensibility engine, but using Jake asked looks like a good option to support the white number of steps out of the box, and we yeah what I especially like about this approach and that it gives combination of Jake asked and pipeline snippet generator so that we integrate two tools together in order to convert e-journals to pipeline, looks pretty promising as an approach so far so object. How many plugins have you tried so far? I.

D

Have not tried so many plugins I mean I yeah I have this used to very general plug-in and in that I we have this directors publisher,.

D

Parameter so for that I use to I, don't know Girard test reporter plug-in I. Think for this.

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D

A

And also slip slip from what I see in commands.

A

But we hiding in the area so in the top. You also have sleep step and according to comment, it's also implemented for Jake. Ask.

D

Yes, yes, mmm-hmm.

D

This is a basic step back in the pipeline. Yeah.

A

D

In that way, I was having difficulty with unit parameter and for this Nicholas has created a pull request and it's being merged. So in extra lately to the beatings.

A

Yeah by the way, maybe an interesting question to discuss, maybe it makes sense to ship another alpha release it. So the current changes in the master, because he a CLI, is there STP areas there, then at this and I'm contributor, so looks reasonable to ship another release, I'm.

C

Fine with that here, Nicola.

C

But it's just a just for you guys he just made up pushing the bottom right and do it nice, okay,.

A

If it's a just push income button, yeah, maybe that make sense yeah, it would be cool.

C

A

See what else you can learn there I will try to create all the quest views, accessibility patches in a few minutes. Okay,.

A

X months, so, unfortunately we don't have Evelina on the call but yeah she said she's going to watch the recording. So maybe we'll get more feedback. Yeah.

A

Equal I online I.

A

See Nicole Nicole but yeah he's.

C

A

Yeah and we we can follow up later, but you personally I think that this approach is helpful yeah if it flies well. One of the things we could consider for simple request. Job plugin is to offer configurator for steps. So currently Jake asked plugin uses it uses job Bissell to generate jobs, but one of the possible options would be to have another configurator powered by Jacob by a simple pull request: job plugin. So it would build possible to define simple jobs as yummo directly in jenkins, Tiamo or maybe included claims.

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A

A nice integration use case.

C

Yeah yeah, yes,.

D

That will be great.

A

So yeah, I'm not sure we will get to that, because yeah Jae Seok is a limited-time project and yeah. You have something like four weeks of coding class see ya, mm-hmm cool I.

C

Think that's fun enough for me. This meeting I have I learned a bit. It's an interesting concept and I can definitely see. This could be useful for replacing the DNS these jobs with drop. You said we have.

D

A

It's probably not replacing because the job they silly is much more flexible because it's new job do you say: yeah yeah for simple declarative for syntax, it's something which could be viable because yeah, defining multi branch pipelines in Jake ask is problematic. For example, recently we had an issue with retriggered and Co for all bills because they was no job ID. So something like that retained right in the guidelines. So there was a patch to the documentation about maybe having a specialized engine would be useful. Just a second I will find this patch.

A

It has been submitted a few days ago.

A

So it's fully request number 3 for 4 from.

A

From Stephan Miller.

A

I've pasted the link to the get of child yeah. Yes, all it's probably one of the examples when yet only we need to be careful this because logic.

A

Oh yes, or maybe a bishop, it's something for you to consider I'm, not sure how the plugin handles it right now, but if it may be a case for a simple pull request a job.

A

So if you open up file changes, you may see that it's just actually adding key ID.

D

So I did not generated by default. Mm-Hmm.

A

A

Okay, so for simple to the request job plug-in, it may make sense to create a follow-up task and if it's not added by default, maybe it makes sense to it in the plugins.

A

Okay, yeah so yeah thanks for your presentation and if somebody is interested tomorrow, we will have a Jenkins online meetup about google Summer of Code and Abhishek will be doing a full demo of the project. So if somebody has any feedback or questions, please feel free to join this meeting and we will talk more about the current status and then probably jakers configurations as well.

C

Yeah, cool, hey: is there anything? Can you put the link for that presentation and John Gaeta yeah.

A

C

I might be able to Waterloo tune in and look.

A

Because the second I will also put it to the church, yeah.

A

A

So yeah it guess that's it for today. So do we have any other topics to discuss.

C

Not a mine, I I thought I got what I wanted show.

D

Not from my time.

A

Okay mm-hmm, so it gets a bit c2fo today them mmm so thanks to everybody for participating or for watching the status update, and you join us in two weeks. Hopefully, we'll have four in this candidate by this time, so it will be much more open in terms of plug-in integration, feedbacks and even now, if you try alpha version, if you see something please report issues, we will try to take a look: okay, thanks again and yes seal so I'm stopping the broadcast.