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A
Welcome
to
documentation
office
hours,
it's
the
13th
of
january
2022.
great
to
have
everybody
here
remind
you
that
we
abide
by
the
jenkins
code
of
conduct,
so
topics
that
I
had
for
today,
news
outstanding
pr
reviews.
There
are
other
topics
we
could
consider
like
chico
africa
idea
review,
and
so
that's
for
the
contributon.
A
A
B
So
the
first
question
is
good:
fest
is
about
good
face
issues
on
jenkins,
dot
io.
So
I
checked-
and
I
noticed
that
the
last
the
the
most
recent
issue
there
is,
I
think,
from
june
last
year,
so
I
wanted
to
ask:
how
are
those
updated?
B
So
if
you
have
new
contributors
right
now
that
I
want
to
contribute
to
jenkins
documentation,
they
might
see
that
and
probably
think.
Oh
maybe
this
is
outdated
or
you
know
this
represents
anybody.
You
know
updating
this
or
things
like
that.
So
that's
the
first
question.
Then
the
second
question
is:
do
we
have
any
documentation
or
any
video
on
how
to
set
up
jenkins
dot
io
on
windows.
A
B
Now
this
is
not
a
question
actually.
This
is
just
me,
so
I
was
thinking
of
starting
a
blog,
a
series
of
blog
posts
on
jenkins,
so
I
just
wanted
to
yeah
run
that
by
you
then
also
possible
topics
because
I'll
like
or
I
don't
know
if
it
would
be
possible
for
you
to
review
them
once
I
start
working
on
them.
B
A
B
That's
why
I
asked
the
second
question,
because
actually
I've
got
a
new
pc,
so
I
have
to
redo
the
installation
of
jenkins
or
at
this
re
setup
and
all
that.
So
that's
why
I
was
asking
if
we
have
any
documentation
or
video
so
that,
if
not
probably,
I
could
document
the
process
while
I'm
doing
it
again
and
if
possible,
do
a
video.
While
I'm
doing
it
again,
so
we
can
have
that.
A
Great,
very
good
all
right,
so,
let's
let's
I
think
I
think
that's,
let's
put
it
as
new
contributors
to
jenkins
docs
and
let's
try
to
answer
those
questions
very
good,
any
others
who
have
topics
they
want
to
add.
A
A
So
now
on
to
zenob's
question,
so
as
a
new
contributor,
let's
first
look
at
the
good
first
issues
and
you're
absolutely
correct
zenob,
it's
not
as
current
as
it
should
be
so
on
what
her
question
was:
hey
one
way
to
decide
how
to
help
the
jenkins
project
is
look
at
the
list
of
issues
on
documentation
and
look
for
things
with
the
label.
Good
first
issue
like
this
see
and
my
screen
shared
right.
Yes,
okay,
so
you
can
see
it.
B
So
what
I
want,
okay,
what
I
did
was
I
I
searched
for
how
to
contribute
to
jenkins
on
google,
and
it
took
me
to
that
documentation,
page
there's
a
documentation
page
and
on
that
page
there
is
a
link
that
says:
okay,
you
can
get
started
here,
so
I
clicked
on
that
link
and
when
I
clicked
on
the
link
it
took
me,
it
brought
me
to
github,
but
the
most
recent
issue
on
that
page
it
brought
me
to
was
21st-
was
around
june
last
year
june
2021.
C
A
A
A
That's
probably
about
it
for
now,
so
I'm
going
to
label
those
as
good
first
issue,
so
we
address
one
of
the
challenges
so
that
if
I'm
lucky
that
will
apply
the
label,
it
did
very
good
okay.
So
so
now
we
have
a
few
more.
But
but
the
challenge
is
real.
We
probably
ought
to
put
a
sort
of
a
once
a
month
to
place
a
monthly
reminder
to
update
the
good
first
issues.
Labels.
A
A
B
A
And
based
on
our
past
experience,
I'd
almost
go
the
other
direction
and
say
we
may
be
better
served
by
teaching
people
how
to
use
a
pre-configured
development
environment
over
a
web
browser
so
that
they
could
from
their
windows
machine
or
their
android
tablet
or
their
mac
os
or
their
linux
or
freebsd.
They
could
still
do
development
and
there's
this
tool
called
git
pod
that
allows
that.
A
So,
let's
see
if
I've
got
this
yeah
here,
it
is
so.
This
thing
was
added
by
jean-marc
mison
that
provides
a
configuration
automation
for
people
who
want
to
use
git
pod
and
what
git
pod
is
is
a
git
pod
is
a
hosted
development
environment
in
the
cloud
and
they're
willing
to
donate
these
hosted
environments
up
to
a
certain
number
of
hours
per
month
to
people
who
subscribe
right.
Okay
and.
B
A
A
B
A
A
A
A
B
B
A
Yeah
well-
and
I
I
agree,
I
think
it
is
easier
and
the
the
benefit
for
me
is
as
as
the
configuration
changes,
the
gitpod
configuration
on
the
on
the
repo
is
updated
and
you
get
the
configuration
changes.
So
if
something
something
gets
adjusted
or
using
some
newer
version
of
this
or
that
or
the
other
thing,
then
that's
automatically
happens
for
you
and
you
don't
have
to
remember
to
update
your
own
computer.
A
A
A
Fork
the
jenkins,
the
jenkins
dot
io
repository
to
their
private
repository
to
their
their
personal,
it
just
forked
their
repository.
You
understand
the
verb
and
start
a
gitpod
project.
A
From
that
jenkins.io
repository
and
then
submit
pull
requests
and
they
might
even
be
able
to-
and
that
I
think
is
what
it
takes,
but
we
may
want
to
invite
jean-marc
to
attend
one
of
our
sessions
here
or
schedule
for
an
earlier
time
of
the
day,
we're
after
jean-marc's
end
of
day
right
now.
So
it
might
be
good
if
we,
we
invited
him
next
week
and
schedule
ourselves
a
few
hours
early,
and
we
could
do
this
same
conversation
with
him
doing.
A
demonstration
for
us.
A
C
Mark
should
we
have
an
issue.
We've
not
been
filing
issues
like
we
should
I'm
very
guilty.
Should
we
have
an
issue
to
update
contributing.adoc
to
reference
getpod
once
we
know.
A
A
That
shows-
and
this
is
how
you
do
it
right
like
that,
so
we
wouldn't
have
to
add
a
lot
to
contributing
right
exactly
well
and,
and
the
other
is
by
doing
it
as
a
video
we
can
now.
We
can
now
re
reference
that
video
and
note
okay.
It
was
recorded
at
this
point.
This
is
how
git
pod
behaved
now,
two
months
later,
when
they
change
we,
we
altered,
we
recorded
a
new
video
and
put
it
there.
Instead.
A
B
Welcome
to
do
it
and
it
should
work
it's
much
better,
because
I
was
already
thinking
of
having
to
go
through
all
that
process.
I
went
through
because
I
remember
I
had
a
lot
of
issues
trying
to
set
it
up
the
first
time
so,
which
was
why
I
was
even
looking
if
I
could
get
something
that
would
make
it
more
straightforward
and
easier
for
me
because
truth
be
told,
I'd
forgotten
a
lot
of
these
steps
because
I
didn't
document
it
then.
So
that's
why
I
was
suggesting,
if
there's
nothing
so
I
can
document
in
90s.
A
B
Yeah
so
once
you're
able
to
have
this
session
with
john
mark
I'll,
try
it
after
then.
So
if
I
have
any
issues
I'll,
let
you
know,
but
also
you
mentioned
something
about
a
certain
number
of
hours
or
something
I
don't
know.
I
didn't
quite
catch
that.
A
Oh
yeah,
so
what
that
is
is
because
getpod.io
doesn't
want
to
give
you
everything
all
for
free
they
will.
They
will
offer
you
as
an
open
source
contributor,
some
some
number
of
hours
total
per
month
of
cpu
time
that
you
get
to
use
and
and
what
we
found.
So,
if
you
were
to,
if
you
want
to
see
examples
of
get
pod
in
use,
go
to
the
let's
look
at
darren
pope.
A
Of
five
that
darren
and
I
created
do
and
what
happens
is
darren
uses
git
pod
in
this
case
to
do
plug-in
development,
not
just
not
just
jenkins.io
development
but
plug-in
development,
and
and
it
works
quite
well.
A
Maybe
no,
maybe
part
three,
because
he
and
I
had
that
discussion
about
hey
this.
This
tool
makes
it
easy.
I
don't
see
it
now
I'll
have
to
I'll
have
to
look
for
it
separately.
I'm
confident
that
we
had
a
segment
where
we
talked
about.
This
is
how
you
do
git
pod.
Oh
yes,
here
it
is
git
pod
discussion
for
the
test,
ng
plugin,
so
this
is
this-
is
actually
a
video
demonstration
of
using
git
pod
to
do
plugin
development,
not
just
jenkins.io
development,.
A
B
So
I
think
I
have
a
follow-up
question
right.
The
follow-up
question
is
so:
does
that
mean
that
if
the
as
the
free
as
they
give
you
for
the
most
elapsed,
you
have
to
pay
to
be
able
to
continue
using
it
for
that
month?.
A
I
I
believe
so,
yes
and
now
the
way
I
got,
they
also
have
an
open
source
contributor
program.
So
your
question
was,
if
hours
expire
or
if
ours
are
exhausted
right,
if
you've
used
all
the
hours
that
are
available
what's
next
and
the
answer
is
apply
to
be
an
open
source
contributor
and
then
they
gave
they.
I
think
they've
given
me
much
many
more
hours
as
a
result
of
that.
B
A
C
All
right
great
could
getpod
be
used
if
one
just
needs
a
little
reference
installation
of
jenkins
to
look
at
quickly.
A
A
reference
installation
of
jenkins,
probably
not
because
it's
focused
on
compilation
and
development
right,
and
so
it's
really
not
it's
not
set
up
to
do.
It's
not
set
up
to
do
just
start,
an
application
there.
There
are
plenty
of
places
that
will
do
that
if
you
want
to
just
do
a
light
jenkins
installation
there
are,
let's
go
to
the
jenkins
docks
and
we
can
point
to
some
of
the
people
that
offer
those.
For
instance,
let's
see
you
know,
is
this
nope
here
we
go
it's
down
here.
A
C
A
Oh,
I
know
why
that
I
it's
because
it's
on
the
install
page
here
we
go
so
slow
brain
these
things
deploying
jenkins
in
public
cloud.
If
you
need
to
do
a
a
lightweight,
quick
experiment
deploying
to
a
public
cloud
is
a
great
choice,
and
each
of
these
has
their
guide,
for
instance,
so
aws
has
a
whole
series
of
things
on
hey.
This
is
how
you
do
it
with
aws
and
here's
the
same
for
google
cloud
and
likewise
for
ibm
cloud.
Here's
theirs
on
look.
A
C
A
A
A
C
A
A
C
A
A
C
C
A
A
And
now
you
had
another
question
on
this
one
and
I
haven't
looked
to
see
if
it's
got
conflicts.
Oh
this
one,
this
one
is
a
long-standing
one
that
that
really
needs
complete
revisit
right.
I
mean
there's,
there's
and,
and
this
one
may
ultimately
end
up
being
closed,
because
daniel
has
recreated
most
of
this
content
already.
A
A
This
one
is,
is
one
of
the
embarrassing
ones
to
address
a
question
that
that
zenob
had
asked
earlier.
The
embarrassment
is:
we've
had
some
submissions
that
are
sitting
for
a
very
long
time
and
haven't
been
reviewed
or
have
had
reviews
that
have
comments.
That
say
this
needs
changes,
but
we
need
to
take
action
and
either
make
the
changes
or
close
the
pull
request.
A
C
Exactly
yep,
or
at
least
should
have
a
they
got
marked
on
hold,
but
they
don't
have
a
comment
to
explain
why
you
know
that
these
are
two
beloved
contributors
and
one
of
them
is
going
to
quit.
If
they
don't
win
this
argument
or
right
now,
some
you
know
I
mean
there's,
there's
no
indication
or
this
is
on
hold
because
there's
a
new
feature
under
development.
That's
a
different
situation,
so.
A
Exactly
yep,
you
described
it
well
things
that
are
there.
There
is
a
lot
of
cleanup
that
we
need
to
do
on
the
jenkins
dot.
Io
pull
request
list
right,
having
35
open
documentation,
pull
requests
is
unreasonable,
but
that's
just
means:
we've
got
a
lot
of
work
to
do
to
decide
which
of
these
we
should
keep
and
which
should
just
be
closed.
C
C
A
So
so
that's
that's
pretty
much
the
extent
of
what
you
can
do
if,
if
we
want
to
hoist
it
to
them
again,
it's
we
just
put
it
in
here
daniel
beck
and
would
be
extra
text
that
meg
has
proposed
proposed
by
mag.
A
C
A
C
C
A
Yeah,
I
think
there
actually
is
and
there's
an
issue
already
yeah.
So
there's
this
one
and
this
one
so
we've
got
this
migrate.
Thing
is
what
she
was
working
on
and
this
one
see
if
it
does
migrate.
If
it
already
redirects
help,
it
doesn't
okay
yeah.
So
so
both
those
are
reminders
that
we've
got
work
to
be
done
on
this
launching
thing.
A
Good
idea,
yeah,
and
I
think
it
may
actually
already
be
there-
see
here's
here's
oleg's
observation
that
look:
we've
got
this
kind
of
documentation
already
and
we
could
redirect
to
those
pages
instead
of
having
them
on
jenkins.io
and
this
has
been
merged
and
the
redirect
would
go
to
a
page
that
looks
like
this.
Let's
see
if
I
can
find
it,
so
this
is
inbound
agent,
so
it
would
point
to
docs
in
ba.
It
would
be
like
this
and
for
me
this
is
a
workable
page
right.
A
A
C
A
A
A
A
A
B
Yeah
cause,
you
know
most
of
people
starting
out
in
tech,
usually
start
out
with
web
development
javascript
and
things
like
that.
So
most
of
the
time
we
usually
have
more
people
with
javascript
skills,
but
that's
not
to
say
that
we
want
to
get
people
that
have
java
skills
and
things
like
that.
So.
A
So,
for
we
don't
have
well
all
of
the
javascript
test
that
we
have
would
actually
be
written
in
java
and
use
a
a
web
browser
to
exercise
it,
so
that
would
make
them
a
particularly
poor
fit
for
for
students
just
starting
in
javascript,
because
it's
it's
even
worse
to
write
an
automated
test
than
it
is
to
write
in
of
javascript
than
it
is
to
write.
Junit-Based
tests
right.
A
B
Okay,
so
remember,
there's
a
form
for
project
ideas,
so
that's
from
actually
requests
for
all
this
information
so
that
when
we
are
assigning
someone
to
the
project
who
use
those
requirements,
so
it
requests
for
the
skills
that
are
required
to
work
on
the
project
and
also
the
skill
level
if
it's
beginner
intermediate
whatever
so
once
we
have
all
those
information,
that's
what
we
used
to
assign
suitable
contributors
to
the
project.
A
B
A
Now
another
topic
was
fix.
Multiple
tutorials
in
particular
the
getting
started
tutorial,
has
some
significant
gaps.
One
of
my
worries
about
this
one
is
most
of
the
time.
Creating
an
effective
tutorial
needs
more
skills
than
a
first
time.
A
first-time
person
has
right.
They
can
tell
us
what's
wrong,
but
they
can't
tell
us
how
to
make
it
right.
A
B
We
want
all
all
areas,
all
kind
of
projects
we
are
not
limiting
it
to
development.
If
we
could
even
get
projects
that
have
to
do
with
design
or
even
community
management,
we
are
open
to
different
because
we
have
contributors
from
different
areas.
Last
year
we
had
to
drop
a
lot
of
them
because
we
didn't
have
projects
that
suits
their
skills,
so
yeah
so
design
community
management
outrage
program.
A
Okay,
so
so
that
that
could
be
a
fun
one
because,
for
instance,
well,
I've
got
to
show
you
this
on
jenkins.io
as
part
of
hacktoberfest
in
the
artwork
collection.
We
received
new
submissions,
and
this
is
very
much
very
much
something
that
someone
who
has
visual
skills
is
a
great
help,
for
I
got
to
show
you
this
one,
because
it
is
so
cool
duchess
where
there
it
is
here
is
duchess
france
and
their
contribution.
A
And
and
it
it
just
oh,
that's
cool
what
a
great
what
a
great
picture
and
and
that
kind
of
thing
is
quite
valuable
to
the
jenkins
project,
because
people
love
the
logos
and
if
we
had
a
if
we
had
a
jenkins
africa
or
something
like
that
from
somebody
with
design
skills
with
art
skills,
that
would
be
a
lot
of
fun.
But
again
I
I
don't
know
that
that's
a
month-long
project
but
doing
doing
art
like
that.
B
Yeah,
we
get
applicants
designers.
Yes,
we
do,
however,.
B
We
need
to
get,
or
rather
have
a
project
that
will
last
them
a
month,
as
you
mentioned,
something
that'll
keep
them
busy
for
at
least
a
month.
C
C
Would
there
be
leftover
work?
Do
you
know.
A
A
A
Right
and
even
even
then,
I
would
hesitate
to
put
attempt
to
put
them
on
this,
because
some
of
our
most
experienced
people
on
the
jenkins
project
have
already
realized
hey
these
two
people
that
are
advancing
the
ui
are
are
way
ahead
of
us,
and
so
so
I
don't
think
that's
now.
However,
we
might
consider
web
design
improvements
for
the
jenkins.io
site.
C
A
There
are
certainly
things
for
page
navigation.
This
is.
A
Right,
hey,
that's
that's
pretty
reasonable
navigation.
I
I
get
to
see
this.
It
tells
me
where
I
am.
If
I
click
one
of
these
pages,
it
highlights
that
page.
Okay,
that's
good!
Now,
I'm
going
to
show
you
the
bad,
so
here's
the
bad
in
the
developer
section.
When
I
go
here
all
right.
I
pick
something
like
this.
I
get
no
hint
anywhere
over
here,
oh
there,
it
is,
but
if
I
pick
this,
no
expanding,
no
contracting,
it's
the
same
page
or
it's
the
same
site.
B
B
This
sounds
like
a
good
project
idea.
So
then
again
it
will
just
be
a
question
of
just
highlighting
the
project's
requirements
properly
so
that
we
could
get
so
at
the
end
of
the
day.
Why
I
advise
having
more
project
ideas.
Is
that
it's
not
compulsory
or
it
doesn't
guarantee
that
we're
going
to
get
people,
but
then
again,
if
we
have
the
project
ideas
out
there
and
get
people
that
qualify,
we
can
assign
them.
Then
if
we
don't,
then
that
means
we
just
don't
work
on
those
ideas.
A
D
Zainab,
you
are
saying
something
about
designers,
then
yeah,
do
you
mean
just
web
designers,
or
you
also
mean
product
designers
as
well
like
ui,
ux
or
just
web
designers,
because
I
think
this
is
something
that
okay,
you
are
ux
and
also
web
designers
or
okay
yeah
all
right
how
about
product
management?
Don't
you
think
it's?
It
would
also
like
fall
in
place.
B
Yeah
so,
as
I
mentioned
earlier,
what
we're
trying
to
do
with
this
program
is
to
capture
all
the
fields
possible.
So,
but
then
again
we
are
deleted.
We
are
limited
by
the
project,
ideas
that
we
are
able
to
get.
So
if
we
don't
get
project
ideas
around
product
management
or
project
management,
it
means
that
we
cannot
invest,
that's
what
it
means,
but
what
we
want
is
to
be
able
to
cover
all
these
areas
as
much
as
possible
as
much
as
possible,
exactly
both
yeah.
So
that's
it.
A
D
Okay,
no,
the
reason.
The
reason
why
I
brought
up
was
because,
because
was
when
zayn
upset
that
we
could
actually
try
out
other
things,
and
she
mentioned
community
management
and
design.
So
that
was
why
I
just
thought
about
it
and
I'm
like
okay:
it
wouldn't
be
bad
if
product
management,
so
it's
part
of
it
and
it's
a
part
of
it.
D
C
D
I
totally
get
what
you
just
said
now
I
am
about
it
and
I
think
it
makes
a
lot
of
sense
yeah.
Thank
you.
A
A
B
For
next
week,
next
week,
thursday.