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A
A
Okay,
so
yeah
that's
very
good:
let's,
let's
go
through
each
of
those
and-
and
I
think
there
are
things
we
need
to
that-
we
can
help
each
other
on
with
each
of
those
great
okay,
so
first
chico
africa
delighted
to
say
that
we've
been
accepted
there.
We
are.
A
A
A
I
don't
know
let's
see,
but
if
I
look
at
mine
I
was
I
did
a
little
bit.
I
I
as
a
personal
tweet.
I
can
be
a
little
more
a
little
more
bold.
So
what
I
said
was
you
want
to
help
create
a
more
diverse,
open
source
community
contribute
and.
A
Has
actually
got
has
received
surprising,
surprisingly
positive
feedback
in
terms
of
the
the
response
in
the
in
the
by
people
who
read
these
things
so
very
interesting.
Interesting
and
I
don't
know
if
anybody
will
act
on
it,
but
delighted
that
that
chico
africa's
work
is
being
highlighted
and
that
we
can
we
can
help
them
in
a
little
bit
so
looking
forward
to
it
and
and
their
their
stuff.
That's
going
on
as
well
all
right.
A
A
And
when
I
last
talked
to
xenops,
she
was
great
with
our
idea
that
we
would
take
up
to
three
and
was
very
grateful
for
the
details,
thanks
for
your
help,
meg
in
going
through
this
reviewing
the
steps
assuring
that
we
know
how
to
do
them,
etc.
So
very,
very
positive.
B
A
B
A
A
So
now,
meg
in
terms
of
that
one-
I
guess
one
thing
for
to
safety
check
here
is-
is
that
what
we?
What
we
intended
was
that
we'll
do
twice
a
week
meetings
with
the
with
those
that
were
mentoring,
one
during
sort
of
your
working
hours
and
one
during
kristin
and
my
working
hours?
A
Okay,
if
that
doesn't
work
for
you,
so
one
during
one,
basically,
at
the
start,
start
of
day
in
africa
and
one
at
after
end
of
day
in
africa,.
A
If
we
need
to
adjust
it,
we
will
we,
I
don't
know
which
day
it
will
be.
I
don't
know
any
of
those
things
we'll
we'll
talk
about
when
the
the
candidates
are
selected
and
then
work
through
it
to
be
sure
that
hey
it
works
for
all
of
us.
B
A
I
hadn't
planned
on
it,
but
we
can
consider
that
my
thought
was
we
let
you
coach
on
on
things
like
writing,
style
and
and
content
things
where
they
submit
a
pull
request.
You
say
hey
here
here
is
coaching
on
your
specific
pull
requests
and
then
kristen
and
I
will
handle
things
on.
Oh
hey.
I
did
this
step
in
the
detailed
instructions
and
it
didn't
work
the
way
I
expected.
B
A
B
A
In
particular,
because
these
changes
will
be
going
into
plug-ins,
it's
even
harder
to
apply
a
style
guide
because
it's
it
will
eventually
arrive
on
the
after
the
plug-in
releases
with
the
changes
it
will
arrive
on
jenkins.io
the
website,
but
it'll
also
be
visible
in
their
jenkins
instance
when
they
run
it.
So,
okay.
B
B
A
Something
that
I
kristen
and
I
are
weaker
at,
whereas
we
can
help
with
the
more
detailed.
Oh,
this
is
how
you
compile
a
plug-in
stuff.
A
Yeah,
so
I'm
not
shy
about
commenting
on
content
and
phrasing,
but
I'm
also
not
the
expert
that
you
are
so
my
thought
is
we
get
they
get.
The
best
of
both
worlds
is
you're
you're
free
to
tell
them
gee.
I
don't
know
about
how
that
that
specific
compilation,
question
you're
asking
ask
mark
and
kristen.
A
And
precise
times
and
days
to
be
negotiated
right
because
we
we
have
to
see
now
now.
I
guess
one
thing
that
I've
wondered
is
if
this,
if
they
get
a
lot
of
subscribers,
do
we
want
to
consider
taking
more
than
three
and
and
if
they
were
all
on
the
same
project,
it
might
be
worth
it,
but
I'd
I'd
probably
limit
us
upper
bound
to
not
more
than
five,
maybe
six,
just
because
I
fear
we'd
be
overwhelmed.
If
trying
to
mentor
that
many.
B
B
B
A
B
A
A
B
Looks
good:
what
are
the
dates?
Do
we
know
when
the
dates
are.
B
A
And
I
believe
selection
happens,
so
selection,
I
believe,
happens
in
in
late
march
and
then
the
projects
run
from
april
1
to
april
30th.
A
B
A
That
includes
form
modernization
and
several
other
really
cool
changes,
so
configuration
form,
modernization
is
the
one
that
has
been
has
been
causing
the
most
struggles
in
the
community
as
far
as
we
can
tell,
but
there
are
others
as
well
in
it
that
that
are
worth
people
considering
and
how
they
deal
with
it.
So.
B
A
Got
it
yeah
so
now
now
there
was
a.
We
also
did
a
jenkins
online
meetup
video
that
spends
an
hour
and
darren
pope,
and
I
did
a
let's
see.
Where
is
the
jenkins
online
meetup.
A
A
B
A
Video
so
jenkins
online
meetup
reviewed
the
changes
and
and
what
they
mean
and
what
we're
seeing
is
that
we're
getting
proof
repeated
proof
that
there
are
plenty
of
people
who,
even
with
our
best
attempts
to
guide
them,
don't
read
the
upgrade
guy,
don't
read
the
install
notes
and
and
just
post
questions
and
the
crucial
steps
are
upgrade.
Your
plugins
update
your
plugins
upgrade
jenkins.
A
Most
is
way
too
is
too
strong.
Many
many,
and
certainly
the
most
popular
ones
are
okay.
There
is
a
there
is
a
jira
dashboard
that
shows
with
the
plugins
that
are
known
to
not
be
ready
for
it.
B
A
And
and
right
now,
there's
a
little
bit
of
angst
in
one
of
those
I'm
going
to
drag
a
page
in
here,
so
we
can
see
it
and
grab
a
copy
of
that.
So
one
of
those
this
one
here
at
the
very
top
the
tfs
plug-in,
highlights
a
class
of
problem
in
in
plug-ins,
where
the
tfs
plug-in
is
no
longer
being
distributed.
A
A
It's
got
a
a
security
problem,
and
so
users
who
were
using
microsoft's
team
foundation
server
have
this
plug-in
that
has
an
own
security
problem
and
has
not
been
updated
for
tables.
That
is
so.
If
they
upgrade
the
2.277.1,
they
they
have
a
bump.
They
have
a
oops,
it
doesn't
work
and-
and
the
answer
is
you
either
remove
tfs
or
you
stay
with
the
older
jenkins
version
yep,
because
we've
stopped
distributing
this
plug-in
and
so
they've
got.
But
here
you
see
a
number
of
people
commenting
on
hey
yeah.
A
Yeah
well
and
and
some
plug-ins
yeah,
that's
just
the
reality.
Some
plug-ins
are
we've
had
other
cases
like
that,
where
they're
they're
using
running
a
deprecated
plug-in,
and
we
aren't
updating,
deprecated
plugins
to
to
support
the
new
user
interface,
they
need
to
switch
to
use
the
modern,
plugins
yep,
the
the
most
the
visible
examples.
There
are
things
like
warnings
and,
let's
see
fine,
bugs
warnings,
other
old
static
analysis.
A
A
A
Yeah,
all
right
so
277.2
is
coming
that
the
release
candidate
will
be
out
in
a
few
days
and
then,
after
two
weeks,
we'll
deliver
the
the
actual
release
and
that
delivery.
Let's
see,
I
should
bring
up
release
checklist,
because
this
is
one
of
those
things
that
I'm
going
to
use
more
and
more
of
these
things.
A
A
And
I
can
go
through
and
I
happen
to
be
the
release
lead
for
this
one,
but
so
I
can
go
through
and
use
each
each
item
in
the
checklist
to
verify.
Have
we
done
this
step?
Have
we
done
this
step
or
strike
it
out
to
say?
Okay,
we're
not
doing
this
step,
and
it's
intentional.
We
know
it
right
so
so
the
exercise
here
is
is
really
quite
impressive
and
what
it's
done
is
it's
captured.
The
knowledge
that
tim
has
that
oliver
ganja
has
that
daniel
beck
has
that
all
of
olivia
vernin
have
about
the
process.
A
A
A
Release
dot
ci
there.
It
is
good,
okay,
highlight
the
the
kinds
of
things
that
may
have
issues
etc.
A
A
B
A
A
And
here
is
the
oh
and
the
application
draft?
Oh
yes,
okay,
good,
so
that
was
one
we
need
to
discuss
and
here
are
the
project
ideas.
Okay,
so
first
challenge
is:
let's
talk
to
the
project
ideas.
These
are
I've
put
the
one
that
I
think
should
be
top
of
our
list
and
the
one
we
actually
submit
here.
First,
so,
let's
all
right.
So
let's
grab
that
and
say.
A
Okay,
so
so
the
organization
proposes
just
who
we
are,
what
we
do
and
the
proposal
here
is.
We
want
to
expand
the
documentation
that
describes
how
to
run
jenkins
on
kubernetes
last
year's
google
season
of
docs
started
this
effort.
Z
knob
did
a
fine
job
with
it,
but
there
is
much
much
more
that
needs
to
be
done
and
and
lots
more
that
we
can
do,
and
we
think
that
google
season
of
docs
is
a
great
way
to
fund
a
professional
writer
to
do
that.
B
A
So
the
the
idea,
then,
is
here's
the
the
concept
it
says:
hey.
We've
got
lots
of
presentations
and
lots
of
articles,
but
we
need
to
expand
the
documentation
describing
jenkins
on
kubernetes
and
concepts,
techniques,
choices
etc
with
work
areas
and
topics.
Here
are
the
things
that
we
had
identified
before
as
hey.
These
are
the
things
we'd
like
to
do
and
we
need
I've
got
to
do
some
more
detailing
on
this.
A
Usually,
what
we
do
is
we
go
beg
the
beg,
the
providers
to
let
us
use
let
to
have
the
provider
donate
capacity
or
we
beg
the
jenkins
project
infrastructure
to
to
donate.
B
A
A
No,
it
does
it
needs
to.
In
fact,
that's
part
of
the
part
of
the
part
of
this
exercise
is
people
need
to
understand
how
to
use
kubernetes
agents,
how
to
use
them
effectively
how
to
deal
with
the
challenges
that
go
with
their
being
completely
ephemeral,
so
they
disappear
immediately
after
use
those
kind
of
things
absolutely
well.
A
Kubernetes
agents
well,
okay,
strictly
speaking,
they
don't
have
to
be,
but
it's
it's
certainly
most
common
that
they
are.
I
should
you're
right.
It's
not
mandatory.
You
can
connect
a
static
agent
to
a
kubernetes
cluster.
It's
just
not
typical.
Unless
you're
running
windows
or
you're
running
specialized
hardware.
A
B
A
Subsections
of
the
jenkins
handbook
is
how
we'd
envisioned
it,
and
so
what
we
see
now,
if
we
look
at
the
content
we
have
now
that
zenob
created,
we
have
an
installing
jack
jenkins
chapter.
If
you
will,
in
the
user
handbook
and
inside
that
chapter,
there's
a
section
on
kubernetes
right
and
then
in
the
in
other
sections,
there
will
be
similarly
kubernetes
kubernetes
specific
items
that
we'll
add
there.
So,
for
instance,
system
administration
will
have
a
kubernetes
section.
Managing
jenkins
will
probably
have
sections
that
are
detailed
specifically
for
kubernetes.
A
Yeah
pipeline
certainly
is
a
good
one
to
have
something
about
kubernetes,
because
actually
that's
here:
let's
do
this
because
you-
and
I
talking
through
this-
is
really
a
good
thing
to
do.
Okay,
so
kubernetes
documentation,
sections
and
sections
and
topics,
and
let's
just
capture
them,
so
we've
got
installing
with
and
xenobs
already
done,
installing
with
multiple
methods
where
it
includes
helm
and
helm
and
operator,
and
I
think
one
other
technique.
A
With
job
dsl.
A
I
don't
know
if
we
want
to.
I
know
I.
I
am
deeply
in
love
with
maintaining
job
definitions
in
my
in
a
docker
image.
It
just
works
great
for
me.
Let's
see
that's
when
we
should.
Maybe
we
put
that
here
as
maintaining.
B
B
A
B
A
B
Such
a
hot
top,
I
mean
basically
you
get
it
for
free
sort
of
right,
except
for
you
know,
actually
you
you
get
it,
but
you
need
to
know
how
to
reco.
How
does
how
to
set
up?
For
instance,
your
pod
may
be
safe,
but
maybe
you
want
to
be
sure
that
you're
saving
your
data
off
on
something
too
right
and
yeah.
A
No,
what's
a
better
way
to
say
it
improving,
availability,
let's
just
call
it
availability
improvement.
Okay,
all
right!
So
here
it's
things
like
handling.
A
Handling
pod
failures-
another
is
web
hook
web
hook
relays,
for
while
jenkins
is
restarting
those
kind
of
things
this.
B
B
A
A
Interesting,
okay,
so
that
one
is
a
relatively
specialized.
Let
me
note
note
it,
though,
so
I.
B
B
A
Good
good
suggestion,
okay,
so
that's
where
agents,
let's
call
it:
kubernetes
agents,
kubernetes
agents
to
a.
A
Controller
controller,
yes,
and
that's
actually
something
using
kubernetes
for
capacity,
even
if.
B
B
A
And
and
that's
a
good
story
because
we're
moving
that
direction.
A
Direction
with
ci
jenkins,
dot,
io.
B
A
Our
our
big
instance
damian,
the
portal
is
working
on
it.
Where
we've
got
a
we've,
got
a
virtual
machine
that
hosts
jenkins
and
he's
looking
at.
Eventually
it
will
be
on
kubernetes,
but
even
before
the
before
the
controller
is
on
kubernetes.
We
need
the
agents
on
kubernetes
so
that
we
can
transition
the
jobs
before
we
ever
transition
the
controller.
So
by
adding
kubernetes
resources,
we
can
detect
kubernetes
specific
issues
resolve
them.
A
B
No,
this
I'm
learning
more
than
you
are.
If
there
are
there
any
special
security
settings
issues.
B
A
Like
cyber
arc,
like
hashicorps,
a
vault,
the
azure
credential
store,
aws
and
google
all
have
credential
stores
that
they
they
they
use,
that
they
provide
so
good.
Okay,.
B
A
A
You
know,
and
the
common
techniques
ldap
google
off
oauth,
let's
see
aws,
I
think
we've
got
something
for
aws
that
does
oauth
active
directory
is
certainly
in
there,
etc.
A
Yeah,
okay,
so
authorization,
those
techniques,
so
are
back
project
authorization.
Those
kind
of
things
well.
B
A
Right
role,
strategy,
project,
project
role:
is
it
project
rules
no.
B
A
Okay
and
others
yep.
A
So
for
me,
those
I'm
less
concerned
about,
because
the
documentation
is
already
there
and
and
accurate
and
should
work.
A
pipeline
is
one
though
that
should
be
in
here,
because
it's
really
part
of
it
is
how
do
we
use
ephemeral
agents
and
part
of
it
is
pipelines
on
kubernetes
agents,
and
there
are
some
capabilities
that
kubernetes
provides
that
give
greater
flexibility
for
pipelines
that
aren't
available
without
kubernetes.
A
Okay
about
backups-
that's
a
good
one
right,
so
that
one
is
because.
A
Backup
yeah
well
so
backup
is,
is
using
using
yeah
yeah,
there's
a
whole
story
there.
So
using
it's,
not
a
pretty
one
well
using
cloud
vendor
storage,
backup
techniques
right,
so
things
like
what
I'm
used
to
is
the
freebsd
concept
of
I
want
a
snapshot
and
that
same
thing
exists
on
all
the
cloud
providers.
You
say
on
the
snapshot.
What
you
get
is
this
point
in
time,
backup
that
happens
in
in
a
matter
of
seconds.
B
A
B
A
A
B
A
B
B
Yeah,
if
I'm
not
a
kubernetes
expert,
if
I'm
just
an
old
it
hack,
I
want
to
know
what
my
aha
is,
how
much
I
can
have
and
how
I
set
it
up
and
how
it
works.
B
Now,
some
of
some
of
that
is
going
to
be
somewhat
familiar,
and
some
of
it
with
kubernetes
is
radically
different,
as
you
said,
because
I
just
stand
up
a
new
pod
and
it's
there,
but
but
will
you
get
into
things
like
saving?
If
you
want
to
be
able
to
restart
a
pipeline,
you
automatically
can
restart
any
declarative
pipeline
from
the
last
stash
right.
B
A
See,
and
did
I
capture
okay,
so
we
probably
I'm
not
okay,
thinking
about
this
one
so
back
to
backing
up
a
little
bit
pipelines
on
kubernetes
and
how
to
use
them
well,
yeah,
maybe
yeah!
Well,
okay,
one
more
so
so.
We've
got
tutorials
on
maven
on
python
and
on
node.js
should
we
consider
as
a
possible
candidate
a
no
see
a
kubernetes
tutorial
is
probably
just
too
involved
to
be
a
tutorial.
B
A
B
A
Well,
and,
and
so
there's
a
concept-
we've
got
for
that
thing:
how
about
what,
if
we
were
to
take,
so
I'm
going
to
open
it
up
here.
Let's
look
at
here's,
the
the
concept
of
the
solution
pages
and
what
we
do
here
is,
for
instance,
we
include
links
to
videos
that
are
potentially
interesting
on
that
topic
and,
and
the
idea
then,
is
okay.
A
B
A
Right
and
and
that's
that's
where
well
and
that's
where
introductions
recommend
you
know:
good
good
practices,
user
story,
user
user
experience,
says
and
videos
etc.