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A
Welcome
this
is
Jenkins
documentation,
office
hours,
it
is
the
17th
of
March
Asia
time
and
today.
Top
of
the
agenda
is
a
getter
tutorial
for
Me
by
Chris,
and
then
we've
got
several
other
topics
that
we
made
may
spend
time
with
and
may
not,
but
that's
the
first
one
Chris
are
there
any
other
topics
you
wanted
to
put
on
the
agenda
today.
A
B
A
B
A
Okay
and
what
I
was
seeing
is
that,
over
here
on
the
left
in
the
in
this
panel
that
shows
the
rooms
the
various
places
I
could
go.
The
the
conversations
I
could
be
in
I
would
see
indications
that
there
was
a
message
or
there
would
be
a
number
on
the
right
hand
side
here
near
the
the
notification
options
Bell,
and
that
number
would
never
go
away,
no
matter
what
I
did
trying
to
navigate
around
in
that.
B
C
B
Still
shows
up,
but
once
you
have
a
new
message
on
the
seventh
ride,
it
will
go
away.
A
B
Well,
the
thing
is:
if
you
have
25,
it's
probably
not
a
bug,
because,
oh,
if
you
go
through
Twitter
to
a
lot
of
it,
that's
like
a
back
of
a
button.
The
threat.
A
A
B
A
A
A
A
B
A
B
Oh
go
ahead:
okay!
Go
ahead
guys
because
I
was
like
I
was
like.
Let's
see
if
you
click
on
the
home
button
on
the
left,
because
you
see
to
if
you
go
to
the
left
hand,
side,
yeah,
click
on
that.
A
A
B
B
B
A
Okay,
there,
you
are.
A
I'll
going
out
going
back
to
the
Jenkins
project:
okay,
oh
and
here's-
a
people
in
the
Jenkins
project.
A
A
A
Actually
I
think
they
do
I.
Think
if
we
look
here
or
there
was
the
timestamp
view
was
in
the
thread
yeah.
B
A
A
A
Yeah,
okay
and
there's
the
so
clicking
the
channel-
and
this
was
the
active
thread.
So
that's
why
I
got
lucky
and
it
showed
up
there.
B
A
A
C
Appears
you
have
to
hover
over
it,
although.
A
I'm
not
sure
that
that
really
tells
me
what
I
need,
because
this
was
was
sent
Chris.
What
probably
today,
oh
this
was
today
so
so
this
was
less
than
24
hours
ago.
A
A
A
B
I
think
like
they
have
a
new
feature
called
like.
Let
me
check
because.
A
B
Yeah
and
if
you
go
to
the
Jenkins
space
because
like
for
for
like
you'll,
see
if
you
let's
see
so
if
we
get
if
we
click
on
the
Jenkins
icon,.
A
See,
okay,
all
right
so
because
you're
in
you're
I'm
not
trying
to
understand
the!
Why
of
that?
But
that's
great
so
so
conversations
with
you
will
be
visible
to
me
in
either
place
because
here
under
people
there's
Chris
Stern
and
in
the
Jenkins
rooms
or
in
Jenkins
you're
here
top
of
the
list
for
people.
A
A
A
B
A
There
were
risks
from
the
contributors
asking
for
reviews,
at
least
that's
what
I
or
there
were
requests
from
contributors
asking
for
reviews
of
their
proposals
and
there's
a
sheet
that
John
Mark
has
a
has
a
sheet
that
tracks
reviews
right.
A
Good,
so
Mark
has
several
to
review.
A
Others
likewise
and
for
me,
I
doubt
that
I
will
not
likely
to
review
them
tomorrow,
because
I
have
a
number
of
things.
I
have
to
do
for
work
review
until
the
weekend,
okay,
Saturday
or
Sunday.
A
Rate:
okay!
Well,
thank
you
for
what
you're
doing
there?
That's
wonderful,
so
I've
seen
several
pull
requests.
A
From
from
candidates
and
good
results,
some
of
them
were
exceptionally
Brave.
We've
talked
about
one
here
in
yeah
or
some
in
in
doc's
office
hours,
that
randeep
Singh
submitted
some
significant
documentation,
work.
A
And-
and
it's
still
in
review,
because
the
the
place
that
it
was
changing
is
dramatic
enough,
it's
the
upgrade
guide
and
that
thing
is
there's
there's
enough
complexity
in
it
that
it's
got
to
have
a
long
and
detailed
review
by
people.
Who've
done
lots
of
upgrades,
so
Mark's
review
is
the
big
is
pending.
A
And
others
have
submitted
likewise
good
Docs
tests
for
plug-ins
Etc.
It's
really
positive.
B
A
Okay,
so
applications
are
may
may
be
submitted
to
Google
yeah
beginning
and
let's
get
it.
A
March
2023
application
period
closes
for
April
is
that
right.
A
C
A
C
A
That
that
I'm
not
sure,
because
if
we're
gonna,
give
all
that
cares
about
which
things
will
staff
right.
If,
if,
if,
if
there's
a
useful
project,
but
it
doesn't
have
a
mentor
or
it
doesn't
have
a
good
proposal,
it
doesn't
matter
right.
They
they
absolutely
want
something
that
that
as
mentors
assigned
and
that
that
the
open
source
project
is
ready
to
to
support.
A
A
A
Okay,
so
next
piece
is
we're
planning
to
transition
the
install
documentation
and
the
general
use
documentation
from
java
to
Java
11
to
oops
from
java
11
to
Java
17..
The
idea
is
that
we
are
really
approaching
the
time
when
we
would
prefer
users
install
with
Java
17.
11
is
still
supported,
but
there's
no
reason
not
to
use
Java
17
now,
and
so
the
idea
is
that
since
Debian
12
will
drop
Java
11
completely
and
is
expected
to
release
sometime
in
the
April
May
time
frame.
C
A
No
even
past
that,
because
a
Debian
project
ending
support
for
it
just
means
that
Debian
doesn't
want
to
Debian.
Debian
releases
have
a
very
long
life
cycle
right
three
to
five
years
and
Java
11
won't
be
supported
by
Oracle
Beyond
like
2020,
late,
2024
and
Debian
says:
hey,
that's,
that's
not
I!
Think
their
logic
is
that's.
That's
not
a
long
enough
life
cycle
for
us
to
have
11
in
Debian
12..
C
A
A
So
there
was
a
surprise
that
we
had
Basel
Crow
has
recently
fixed
a
bug
in
the
job
DSL
plugin
that
was
Java,
17,
specific
and,
and
so
there
are
still
a
few
of,
or
that
was
the
most
recent.
That's
the
only
one
I'm
aware
of,
and
it's
now
fixed.
A
So,
but
just
just
be
aware
that
this
change
is
coming
this
we
will
need
eventually
and
a
plan
for
when
we
transition
off
Java
11
completely,
but
Java
11
continues
supported
by
the
Upstream
by
the
Java
providers
until
at
least
late
2024..
A
Okay,
so
the
rest
of
these
I'm
not
sure
that
there's
anything
for
me
to
say
that
that
the
two
of
you
would
be
interested
in,
because
we've
got
an
idea
of
how
to
tell
people
that
we're
ending
support
for
something
and
we're
going
to
propose
that
idea
as
a
Jenkins
enhancement
proposal,
and
then
you
let
the
community
help
figure
out.
What's
the
best
way
to
do
this
thing,
the
examples
are
Ubuntu.
18
is
end
of
life
in
April,
Centos
7
is
end
of
life
in
June
of
2024.
C
A
Right,
okay
and
that
that
covered
all
the
topics
that
I
had
the
same
thing
is
for
Centos
7
with
one
additional
twist.
The
additional
twist
with
cento7
is
I.
Intend
I
will
propose
that
we
end
the
support
of
cento7
even
before
the
operating
system
provider
ends
it.
So
they
will
stop
supporting
it
in
June
of
2024,
but
I'm,
tired
of
it
and
I'm
I'm,
going
to
propose
that
we
end
maintenance
of
it
earlier
than
that
think.
September
October,
maybe
maybe
as
late
as
December
of
this
year,.
B
A
Okay,
orange,
oh
I,
see
I,
see,
okay,
got
it
so
so
Meg.
Let
me
show
you
what's
what
Chris
is
asking
about
so
on
jenkins.io
Paige
we're
familiar
with,
and
the
about
lets
us
navigate
to
various
topics
and
things
one
of
the
things
it
doesn't
have,
though,
so
we've
got
the
road
map.
We've
got
the
download
page,
the
awards
page
Etc.
A
What
we
don't
have,
though,
is
a
link
to
this
page,
the
books
page,
oh
and
thanks
to
Chris,
actually
that
this
books
page
exists,
but
it's
it's
not
linked
into
the
navigation
structure
at
all.
Yet,
oh
and
so
the
question
then
was
where
should
I
think
Chris.
Your
question
was:
where
should
it
be
linked
into
the
structure
into
the
navigation,
yeah
and
and
I'm
not
sure,
but
I
did
see
an
example
from
Kevin
Kevin
Martin
showed
an
example
today
from
the
openstack
website,
where
they
had
a
link
to
books.
A
A
A
Okay,
I
do
not
know,
I
know
during
office
hours.
He
showed
us
this,
and
it
was
on
a
page
like
this,
where
what
they
had
was
they
had
maybe
infra,
Solutions
and
nope.
They
had
in
this
kind
of
a
layout,
so
it
was
inside
the
openstack
marketplace.
A
C
A
Openstack
technical
Publications:
yes
there,
it
is.
A
A
A
A
A
Like
this
so
and
and
I'm
not
sure
if
the
the
sellers
of
the
books
would
prefer,
we
went
there
if
they're
to
the
publisher
site
or
if
we
we
go
to
a
seller's
site
like
Amazon
or
Barnes
and
Noble
or
whoever.
A
A
A
A
These
are
the
web
components-
okay,
so
Gavin.
This
should
take
us
there
because
he
will
have
done
recent
contributions
to
it.
So.
A
A
Okay,
this
is
the
navigation
bar
and
the
footer
I
didn't
remember
the
footer
having
much
in.
Oh,
yes,
okay
right!
So
here
we
oh
right,
okay,
and
it
probably
does
need
to
be
in
both.
Doesn't
it
because
under
resources,
books
seems
like
a
good
choice
to
be
under
resources?
Wouldn't
it
downloads
blog
documentation
book
seems
like
a
good
thing.
There
yeah.
A
C
A
B
A
A
A
C
A
So
I
I
hesitate
to
put
it
under
documentation,
but
but
I
guess
it's
it's
not
unreasonable
to
consider
it,
and
we
could,
for
instance,
decide
that
we're
going
to
shrink
this
thing
where
it
has
two
entries
for
tutorials.
Now
that
really
they're
easily
easily
navigated,
by
just
making
it
one
one
line
instead
of
three
and.
C
A
A
A
C
C
A
Agreed
that
it
is
not
significant
enough
to
justify
insertion
into
the
footer,
although
I
think
header
space
is
even
more
valuable
than
footer,
but
I
understand
that
a
if
they
don't
want
the
footer.
No
problem,
no
argument:
how
about
this
way?
No
argument
that
it
not
be
in
the
footer.
A
C
A
C
A
A
A
B
C
A
I
want
to
be
sure
that
we've
got
a
reasonable
time
for
those
who
are
in
India
if,
when
dear
Raj
wants
to
join
us
or
somebody
else
wants
to
join,
and
so
so
this
time
works
well
for
them,
because
it's
8
30
a.m
all
year
round.
So
it's
not
terribly
early
their
morning,
but
it's
it's
still
early
enough
to
be.
You
could
squeeze
it
in.