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A
Okay
and
welcome
to
Jenkins
documentation
officers.
This
is
the
February
2nd
edition
of
2023.
big
welcome
to
Markham
Mark,
wait
and
Bruno
Brockton
joining
as
I,
thankfully,
have
usually
and
myself
for
the
agenda.
We
have
a
little
bit
longer
agenda
than
usual,
but
mostly
to
facilitate
some
discussion
action
items.
We've
got
a
new
blog
post
from
John
Mark
Miss
and
that
we
want
to
highlight.
We
had
our
weekly
release
this
week
and
next
week
we
have
our
next
LTS
release.
B
A
Cool,
thank
you
for
confronting
Bruno
and
just
I
want
to
highlight
that
for
a
second,
a
note
about
Debian
12
and
the
release
of
it,
which
will
include,
and
only
include
open,
jdk
17,
as
opposed
to
11,
so
the
future
of
Jenkins
documentation
and
that
a
couple
updates
for
a
Google
summer
of
code
and
where
we're
at
with
the
Jenkins
participation
in
that
and
again,
like
I
mentioned
previously.
A
Most
of
this
is
pull
requests
that
I
wanted
to
just
share
and
bring
up
mention,
maybe
discuss
depending
on
how
much
time
we
have
and
what
which
one
we're
looking
at
and
mostly
a
lot
of
new
contributions
from
new
contributors
and
just
a
lot
of
amazing
work.
That's
that
should
not
go
unnoticed.
So
is
there
anything
else
on
the
agenda
or
anything
that
I
missed,
that
we
want
to
add.
C
A
Yeah
that
works.
Thank
you
very
much.
Mark
appreciate
it.
Okay.
So
let's
get
started
the
first
item
on
our
list
is
we
have
a
brand
new
blog
post
from
John
Mark
that
was
published
yesterday
regarding
the
Jenkins
application
for
Google
summer
of
code,
the
application,
the
it's
the
organizer
application
specifically.
A
This
is
something
that
we
need
to
submit
as
the
Jenkins
project,
and
this
is
to
hopefully
get
us
into
Google
summer
of
code
more
than
likely
yes,
but
this
is
still
something
we
need
to
apply
for
and
get
approval
from
Google,
but
John
Mark's
done
a
really
nice
review
and
write-up
of
all
the
things
that
have
been
going
on
since
our
we
started
and
what
things
are
going
to
be
coming
up
and
going
on
and
what
the
application
entails
and
provides
a
lot
of
nice
interactive
links
that
help
with
the
Google
summer
of
code
info
Mentor
info
and
just
the
general
ideas
of
continuing
Community
discourse
throughout
getter
in
the
community
Forum.
A
Next
up
on
the
agenda,
we
had
our
weekly
release
just
on
Tuesday
of
2.389,
which
has
gone
on
successfully
so
hooray
for
that
and
next
week,
we'll
be
at
2.390
and
next
week
we
will
also
be
at
our
next
LTS
release,
which
is
going
to
be
2.375.3.
A
The
change
login
upgrade
guide
have
been
created,
everything's
up
to
date
with
all
back
ports.
There
was
one
that
came
after
my
initial
submission
of
the
change
log
in
a
free
guide,
but
that's
been
since
added,
so
we
should
be
good
to
go
on
that
and
everything
seems
to
be
ready
for
the
release,
so,
barring
any
unforeseen
circumstances,
we
should
be
smooth
sailing
on
that.
Well,.
C
But
the
the
change
log
and
upgrade
guide
pull
request
has
not
been
merged
yet
right.
So
we've
that
is
correct,
Okay,
so
we've
definitely
got
that
auction
item.
Still
it's
it's
got
two
approvals
and-
and
you
did
add
the
backboard
right-
I
see
it
yes,
sir
okay
good,
so
I
think
actually
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
merge
it
because
I
think
we're
ready.
It's
it's
coming
out.
There's
no
reason
for
us
to
delay
its
availability
until
next
delay
the
merge,
let's
get
it
merged
now.
So
it's
ready.
Okay,.
A
A
So
Thursday,
then,
is
typically
when
you
and
Darren
do
the
live
stream.
So
again,
this
release
will
be
happening
and
then
that
will
be
the
next
day
right
next
up
on
this
again,
just
want
to
mention
that
fosdem
is
this
weekend
in
Brussels
we
have
some
wonderful,
wonderful,
wonderful,
folks,
going
and
representing
Jenkins.
Bruno
is
actually
one
of
those
if
I'm
not
mistaken,.
B
Look
like
that,
if
you
ever
yeah,
you
know
a
big
guy
with
no
hair.
Welcome
sorry
Kevin
L,
while
I'm
having
I
have
this
contraption
with
me.
So
if
you
see
something
looking
weird
on
your
table,
it's
maybe
Jenkins
booze
come
in,
say
hi.
A
B
B
A
Sorry
far
in
the
future
preview:
okay,
cool,
thank
you
very
much,
Bruno
yeah
and
just
again,
thank
you
to
all
the
people
that
are
all
the
folks
that
are
going
to
represent
Jenkins
and
interact
and
engage
with
the
community
at
large.
This
is
a
really
great
opportunity
to
just
get
to
connect
with
people
directly,
as
opposed
to
you
know
we're
online.
So
this
is
mostly
remote.
So
it's
a
great
time
just
to
be
able
to
talk
face
to
face.
B
A
Hey
all
right:
we've
got
some
egg
cool
stickers
t-shirt.
What
else
could
you
want
nothing
cool
anything
else
on
Boston
Bruno,
no.
A
Sorry,
no
no
worries
just
making
sure
I
realized.
I
was
starting
to
cut
you
off
a
little
bit
and
I
want
to
do
that
again,
so
cool
all
right,
Debian
12..
So
this
is
something
that'll
be
releasing
in
April
May
of
this
year.
What's
gonna
happen
is
Debian
12
AKA
Bookworm
is
going
to
launch
with
open
jdk
17
as
opposed
to
jdk
11..
A
What
this
means
for
Jenkins
documentation
is
that
we
will
need
to
move
forward
and
start
using
job
17
as
in
our
documentation,
as
opposed
to
Java
11..
This
makes
sure
that
not
only
is
the
Jenkins
information
up
to
date,
but
also
usable
by
anyone
who
is
moving
on
to
Java
17.
A
this,
the
Java
11
support
will
not
be
dropped
until
2024.
That
is
something
that
I
want
to
make
very
clear
right
now.
Mark
put
that
note
in
here,
even
though
the
Debian
12
release
is
not
coming
with
it,
it's
still
supportive
very,
very
important
to
note.
There's
no
cut
off
for
anyone
at
this
point
in
time.
B
And
sorry
for
interracy,
once
more
on
the
latest
platform
seek
Mark.
We
talked
about
timbering
quite
a
lot
when
we
talked
about
book
world
because,
yes
for
our
containers,
we
are
using
Tamarind
open,
GDK
builds
and
maybe
we
should
tell
something
somewhere
in
the
documentation
about
our
choice
of
tamarin.
C
Right
I,
agree,
I
think.
Well,
there
there's
there's
this
other
question
even
before
that,
should
we
also
change
the
windows
instructions
at
the
same
time,
so
Kevin
I'd
Lobby.
Yes,
we
should
because
Java
17
is
fully
supported
already.
There
is
no
shame
in
Us
in
April
or
May
deciding
that
we're
going
to
document
Java
17
as
our
de
facto
documentation
and
and
note
that,
yes,
we
also
support
Java
11.,
it's
it's
not.
A
Yeah
and
I
know
that
that
was
recently
pushed
to
full
availability
for
functionality
with
2.361.1.
A
C
C
That
series
will
go
for
three
months
and
by
if
it's
all
the
way
into
May
before
Debian
releases
will
be
even
one
more
LTS
beyond
that.
So
so
really
the
story
for
Java
17
is
is
cemented.
Clearly
we
could
so
I
and
that's
great
so
I'm
glad
that
you're,
okay
with
the
idea-
let's,
let's
make
that's
Java
17
story
stronger
and
stronger
and
stronger.
A
A
No
yeah
I
know
that
tamron's,
the
one
the
what
we
use
for
Jenkins
and
as
far
as
development
goes,
but
beyond
that
Mark.
What
what
would
you
have
to
share
or
Bruno?
Either
we
have
to
share.
B
C
Yeah
so
SSH
ajsh,
inbound
agents
and
the
controller,
all
three
of
those
absolutely
are
using
Eclipse
timer
and
any
all
Jenkins
container
agents
use
all
Jenkins
containers
use
Eclipse
Tamarin
as
it's
jdk
and
that's
I
think
we
said
one
exception
right:
Arch
Linux,
if
I
remember
right
was
the
one,
but
nonetheless
it's
it's
very
much
a
thing
for
us,
but
it's
nowhere
mentioned
in
our
documentation
on
www.jenkins.io.
B
C
Yeah-
and
it
may
be
that
that
we
owe
a
blog
post,
it
might
be
that
the
best
way
to
put
it
is
in
the
installation
document
for
Docker
containers,
where
we
describe
there,
that
we
are
intentionally
using
Eclipse,
Tamarin
I,
don't
know
which
of
those
or
maybe
both
of
them
because
no
harm
in
saying
yes,
we
have
we
like
our
relationship
with
Eclipse
Tamarin.
They
support
the
platforms
we
want
want
supported
and
they
do
a
good
job
of
delivering
all
the
Java
versions.
We
need
on
all
the
platforms
we
need.
Yes,.
B
B
So
that
may
be
the
right
time
to
say
hey
by
the
way
we
can
install
with
timurian.
Why
not
I'm
I,
just
don't
know
how
it's
done
by
the
way
I
know
you
can
download
directly
on
The
Tamarind
releases,
page
I
know
we
are
doing
it
differently
with
Docker,
because
we
are
downloading
a
Docker
image
and
putting
inside
our
images.
But
I
don't
know
if
there
are
PPA
for
Debian
Ubuntu
or
whatever
for
Jimmy
Rin,
actually
I,
don't
know
them
directly
from
their
GitHub
releases
page.
So
we'll
have
to
find
out.
B
A
And
it
if.
A
Share
a
blog
post
or
any
kind
of
documentation,
it
sounds
like
it
may
might
make
more
sense
to
include
that
as
a
blog
post,
when
the
W12
actually
is
releasing
just
to
provide
an
alternative
for
people
that
want
to
use
an
alternative.
Well,.
C
A
So
more
to
come
on
that
then
oh
cool
I
have
a
farm
move
on
real
quickly
again.
I
just
want
to
make
sure
Bruno
Mark
any
other
questions
or
statements
on
this
step
in
12.
A
Thank
you.
Next
up
is
the
Google
summer
of
code,
just
a
quick
update
here.
Our
organization
application
will
be
submitted
in
a
couple
days.
So,
even
though
that
is
happening,
Mentor
applications
are
still
open
project
idea.
Proposals
are,
for
the
most
part
published,
but
again
still
optional
to
you
know.
If
you
want
to
submit
a
proposal
or
sign
up,
do
any
pre-work
or
anything
like
that,
I
mean
the
information.
Is
there.
A
B
A
Have
signed
up
already,
we've
got
a
great
handful
of
participants
and
people
that
have
signed
up
to
be
mentors.
The
contributor
applications
are
going
to
be
open
soon
and
open
for
quite
a
while,
if
I'm
not
mistaken,
at
least
a
month
or
two.
So
the
idea
is
that
we'll
get
plenty
more
folks
joining
in
and
signing
up
there.
It's
not
just
students,
it's
anyone,
who's
interested.
So
please
by
any
means.
A
If
you
find
that
one
of
the
ideas
seems
interesting,
so
yeah
contribute,
you
can
show
up,
be
there
get
what
you
want
out
of
it
and
learn.
You
don't
have
to
be
constantly
doing
something,
but
you
can
do
anything
in
this
case
and
any
you
know,
any
contributions
would
be
that
much
more
I
mean
that
any
more
contributions
would
be
great
and
we
can.
It
can
foster
discussion.
It
can
encourage
others,
even
if
it's
not
a
huge,
life-changing
change
submission
yeah.
These
are
the
kind
of
things
that
help,
encourage
and
expand
the
community.
A
So
anyone
is
welcome
to
join
out
and
then
the
last
few
items
I
have
on
here
and
be
mindful
of
time.
Some
pull
requests
of
note
that
I
wanted
to
share
the
first
one
here
is
an
pull
request
about
adding
content
to
the
updating,
Jenkins
and
documentation.
Vandy
has
gone
and
added
a
ton
of
content
and
being
a
new
contributor.
A
A
I
think
I
had
there
was
a
question
I
had
on
here
about
the
cloud
bees
Jenkin
platform,
because
we
did
discussed
it's
coming
into
life
in
documentation,
but
that's
been
removed,
so
I
think
the
only
thing
here
is
Mark
I
think
you
requested
changes
so
it
if
there's
anything
that
still
needs
to
be
taken
care
of.
A
C
Today,
today
does
not
look
good
for
me,
but
I
would
hope
tomorrow
that
I
can
get
to
it.
Okay
and
and
yeah
I
think
this
needs
more
work
before
I'm,
ready
to
say
yes,
I've
got
to
do
another
review
of
it
and
I
want
to
be
sure
that
it
looks
and
feels
the
same
as
the
install
guide
and
and
on
the
earlier
reviews.
C
It
felt
like
I
could
make
those
kind
of
changes
much
faster
myself
than
trying
to
do
it
as
pull
request,
comments
and
vandit's
work
and
vandit's
willing
to
accept
pushes
from
me
and
from
others.
So
he
won't
object
or
vandi
won't
object.
So
I
think
that's
fair
to
just.
Let
me
make
proposal
or
let
me
make
things
push
things
to
it
and
if
any
of
them
cause
him
angst
or
frustration,
we
can
revert
those
pull
requests
or
those
commits.
A
Really
cool
and
I
have
to
go
through
now
that
it's
got
I,
keep
forgetting
to
go
through
and
review
the
updated
updates.
So
I
need
to
do
a
review
on
that
as
well.
So
thank
you
for
remembering.
A
Next
up
the
light,
tpd
reverse
proxy
info
again.
This
just
needs
to
be
tested
and
verified
I've
gone
through
and
reviewed
it
from
a
documentation
standpoint.
So
it's
just
a
matter
of
making
sure
that
that
works
properly
in
the
way
that
they're
describing
it
the
we
had
a
pull
request
and
a
this
is
for.
A
This
is
for
the
docker
repo,
and
this
is
specifically
for
uninstalling
a
plug-in
with
from
docker,
and
this
information
is
not
crucial
to
the
Jenkins
documentation
right
now,
but
is
something
that
we
want
to
include
at
a
later
point
in
time.
This
will
require
some
conversation
and
discussion
with
Docker
experts,
so
nothing
has
happened
too
much
here
yet
just
something
to
be
aware
of,
and
that
this
will
be
something
that
we
discussed
again
down.
The
line
foreign.
A
The
next
thing
that
I
had
added
on
to
the
list
is
a
submission
from
a
newer
or
actually
no,
not
a
newer
user.
This
is
a
returning
Google
summer
of
code
participant
who
submitted
a
tutorial
on
the
Jenkins
file,
Runner
GitHub
actions,
and
this
is
one
one
of
the
2022
Google
summer
of
code
projects.
A
This
person
participated
in
the
project
and
has
submitted
a
tutorial
for
it.
I've
gone
through
reviewed
in
terms
of
the
documentation.
I
still
need
to
go
through
and
do
a
functional
test
to
make
sure
and
everything's
okay
and
works
properly,
but
it's
been
great
and
John
Mark's
also
gone
through
and
reviewed,
or
at
least
read
through,
and
so
there's
been
some
action
on
here.
If
anyone
wants
to
check
it
out,
try
it
out,
GitHub
run
the
Jenkins
file.
Runner
GitHub
action
is
a
newer
functionality
for
me
to
experience
and
I.
A
Think
in
the
grand
scheme
of
things
it's
in
GitHub
actions
are
newer
in
general,
so
this
is
awesome
and
again
it's
another
piece
of
Jenkins
that
we
can,
that
expands
to
another
area,
another
functionality
that
we
can
use
to
increase,
dragon's
presence
and
functionality.
B
Kevin
sorry
for
interrupting,
but
I
haven't
read
the
pr
yet.
But
what
is
it
about?
It's
written
I
think
it's
500
GitHub
actually.
Is
it
GitHub
calling
Jenkins
or
Jenkins
calling
GitHub
I?
Guess
it's
the
other
way
around
GitHub
Jenkins
calling
GitHub
actions
no.
C
No,
it's
the
other
direction.
It
is
so
Jenkins
fire
Runner
allows
me
to
define
a
pipeline
and
have
an
ephemeral
Jenkins.
That
starts
just
long
enough
to
run
the
pipeline
and
then
stops
so
the
entire
Jenkins
controller
becomes
ephemeral
and
and
that
entire
Jenkins
controller,
and
so
this
the
project
idea
from
last
year's
Google
summer
of
code
was
allow
a
GitHub
action
to
invoke
a
a
process
that
starts
a
full
Jenkins
controller,
executes
a
Define,
Jenkins
Pipeline
and
then
exits
the
entire
Jenkins
controller.
C
Well,
I
I,
it's
it
is.
It
is
certainly
a
significant
thing
and
you
can
imagine
the
level
of
complexity
that
involves
because
a
Jenkins
controller
has
all
sorts
of
interesting
things
going
on
right
in
terms
of
well
I
actually
on
my
Jenkins
controller
need
50
agents,
because
I
need
five
different
operating
systems
and
three
different
Hardware
platforms
and
blah
blah
blah
blah
and
with
all
that,
putting
me
into
a
Jenkins
file.
Runner
condition,
wouldn't
wouldn't
save
me
much
right.
So
so
it's
it's
a
an
interesting
idea
for
certain
use
cases.
B
A
A
There's
more
to
it
than
that
they
have
their
own
documentation
for
the
Jenkins
file,
Runner
GitHub
action,
so
we
might
be
able
to
add
some
information
from
there,
but
we'll
work
with
now:
I'm,
completely
blanking
I!
Think
no!
No!
No!
It's!
Okay!
I
I!
Just
forgot!
Okay!
Mark!
Do
you
want
to
know
this?
This
person's
name
by
any
chance?
Yes,.
A
Next
up,
there
was
a
pull
request
to
update
the
viewing
logs
page.
This
was
something
that
CJ
had
reviewed
and
submitted
an
update
for.
When
we
looked
into
the
update
submitted,
though
we
found
that
there
could
be
a
lot
of
updates
on
this
page.
Specifically,
there
are
instructions
for
Linux
Mac,
but
Mac
OS
X
specifically,
and
so
this
is
a
little
outdated,
but
we've
been
able
to
acknowledge
that
and
point
that
out
and
sujay
has
been
working
on
this
updating
things.
A
It's
gone
through
and
worked
on.
Updating
the
Mac
OS
information
of
Linux
information,
there's
still
a
question
about
other
systems,
and
this
is
something
that
I
wanted
to
bring
up
here,
because
I
know
that
we've
talked
about
things
like
kubernetes
and
the
other
systems
that
are
available
for
installation
purposes,
which
is
where
I
kind
of
leaned
on.
But
what
other
systems
should
we
be
potentially
calling
out
here
specifically.
C
C
Yeah
I'm
not
sure
we
need
to
mention
that
one
or
even
any
of
these
others,
so
so,
truly
if
other
systems
were
completely
empty.
That's
also,
okay,
but
for
me
the
the
open
Indiana,
the
FreeBSD
when
I
have
installed
and
I
know
it
puts
its
log
files
in
a
place
that
matters
to
FreeBSD
package,
maintainers.
A
And
once
again,
thank
you
to
CJ
for
doing
this.
Creating
this
again.
This
is
a
new.
This
is
a
lot
of
updating
to
do
because
the
some
of
the
systems
are
a
little
behind,
but
thank
you
again
to
starting
working
on
this
and
contributing
this
real
quickly.
Just
to
finish
up
since
I
know
we're
at
time.
The
second
to
last
pull
request
here
is
about
managing
users.
Page
content.
A
Bashwati
has
been
working
on
this
and
has
added
a
lot
of
information,
since
we
didn't
have
any
before
on
this
page
and
I'm,
working
with
them
now
to
go
through
and
get
some
specifics
going
on.
Some
explanations
for
some
of
the
fields
going
on,
we've
got
some
screenshots
and
there's
still
needs
to
be
a
little
bit
more
added
to
that,
and
we
need
to
also
recognize
stuff,
like
security
permissions,
other
aspects
of
managing
users
in
Jenkins.
Besides
just
managing
users
directly.
A
And
then
the
last
progress
here
is:
we've
been
talking
a
lot
about
adding
information
for
detached,
plugins
and
implied
dependencies.
This
is
something
that
has
been
started
now
again,
thanks
to
I'm,
pretty
sure
event.
A
It's
Dundee
yeah
Betty
has
been
going
on
a
tear
lately
and
submitting
a
bunch
of
stuff,
but
he
added
some
information
about
implied
dependencies
and
detached
plugins
to
the
managing
plugins
page
I've
been
able
to
go
through
a
review,
provide
some
suggestions
and
feedback
and
we're
working
on
this
as
we
speak
to
get
a
really
nice,
Visual
and
contextual
representation
of
this
information,
so
that
we
can
address
the
cache
plugins.
We
have
the
list
of
them
here
in
the
documentation
office
hour
notes,
but
we
have.
A
But
at
this
point
in
time
Vandy
has
focused
on
the
Windows
wmi
agents,
so
we
are
using
that
as
an
example,
which
is
great
other
ones
we
can
always
discuss
later
on
and
as
we
go,
but
with
this
being
so
recent.
This
is
a
good
place
to
start
foreign,
and
with
that
we've
reached
the
end
of
the
agenda.
Is
there
anything
anyone
else
wants
to
share
comment
on.