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A
Welcome
to
doc's
office
hours,
asia,
it's
the
17th
of
june
in
asia,
and
great
to
have
you
here.
Today's
agenda
includes
action
items:
google
summer
of
code,
jenkins,
2.346.1,
lts
changelog,
the
required
java
11
project,
the
support
java,
17
project
migration
of
user
stories,
and
this
one
is
really
another
way
of
expressing
an
earlier
topic.
A
Oh,
oh,
let's
see
well
what
was
it?
Oh,
it
was
it
maybe
upcoming.
Maybe
let
me
put
it
this
way:
upcoming
blog
posts
that.
A
Yes,
so
yeah,
so
that's,
and
so
that's.
The
theme
here
is
upcoming.
Blo
block
blog
posts
that
I
owe
to
the
to
the
organization,
and
so
let's
put
that
there
and
we'll
put
that
in
the
guilt
department,
so
we'll
put
it
at
the
end
for
right
now:
good,
good,
good,
okay,
anything
else
that
needs
to
be
on
the
agenda
do.
C
We
need
to
do
a
review
of
that
one
long-standing,
the
jean
mark's
pull
request.
A
A
A
Okay,
well,
let's
and
let's
that
would
be
good
for
me
as
well,
because
I
got
a
bunch
of
writing
I
needed
or
a
bunch
of
editing.
I
need
to
do
for
the
change
log.
So
any
time
we
can
give
me
back
is
good.
Is
a
win
all
right,
so
first
topic
kristin
for
your
benefit
and
for
megs
the
pipeline
step
stock.
Generator.
A
Really
nice
work
from
vihan
on
this
pull
request
to
add
independent
scrolling
in
the
documentation
sidebar.
So
what's
what
this
does
is
on
the
jenkins
documentation
site
when
I
have
when
I'm
looking
at
a
long
page
like
managing
jenkins,
the
navigations
on
the
left
disappears,
as
I
go
further
into
the
page
right
and
vihan
noticed:
hey!
That's
that's
a
that's
a
challenge!
That's
a
problem
and
it's
especially
a
problem
because
in
the
pipeline
steps
reference
vihan
would
like
to
use
this
left-hand
side
for
better
navigation.
A
A
And
kristen,
I
think,
you've
already
seen
it
but
just
to
show
it
from
eggs
benefit.
So
here
we
go.
Let's
take
that
same
one
that
I
showed
notice
here.
In
this
case
it's
got
a
horizontal
scroll
bar
or
a
vertical
scroll
bar,
but
that
index
stays
visible
on
screen
all
the
time
and
in
most
cases
on
my
screen,
chug
chug,
chug.
A
Sorry,
the
the
preview
site's
running
a
little
slow.
At
the
moment
there
we
go
on
my
screen:
there
isn't
even
a
vertical
scroll
bar
in
most
cases,
so
so
the
the
scroll
bar
only
appears
in
those
cases
where
the
content,
where
the
the
chapter
number
of
chapters
is
so
long
that
it
forces
the
scroll
bar
and
and
one
solution
there
might
be
okay,
get
a
get
a
longer
screen
get
a
deeper
screen.
The
other
is.
A
We
could
reduce
the
number
of
sections
here
in
system
administration,
for
instance,
instead
of
individual
reverse
proxy
pages,
we
could
bunch
them
together.
Something
like
that
right
now
there
are
other
techniques,
but
this
one
vihan
has
has
working
and
I
think
is,
is
quite
workable.
So
if
we
look
how
it
feels
in
the
pipeline
steps
reference,
here's
the
example
in
pipeline
steps
reference
and
now,
let's
look
at
the
poster
child
of
problem
pages.
A
Okay,
so
now
loading
a
mammoth
page-
and
I
do
mean
mammoth-
okay
page-
is
loaded
and
now
we're
going
to
expand
it
with
something
huge:
okay,
oh
and
there's
more
more
huge
stuff
that
needs
to
be
expanded
and
it
just
keeps
getting
more
huger
and
hugest
until
it's
huge
monstrous
and
yet
still
on
the
left.
I
have
navigation.
A
And
and
again,
even
there
there
are.
There
are
other
ways
we
could
handle
it
on
the
left-hand
side.
Potentially
things
like
hey
make
this
expand
and
contract
in
a
different
way
or
or
reduce
the
the
size
of
the
you
know,
all
sorts
of
techniques.
For.
For
me,
this
is
enough
of
an
improvement
that
I
think
it's
worth
merging.
Now
I've
asked
vihan
and
confirmed
with
vihan
that
he's
okay,
if
it
waits
until
next
thursday
before
we
merge
it,
because
I
don't
want
to
risk
disrupting
the
security
release
that
goes
out
next
wednesday.
A
A
A
So
I
like
that
and
kristen
I
see
you've
commented
on
it
and
japanese,
who
is
the
other
person
who's
done
doc
site
maintenance
has
been
looking
at
it,
so
so
we've
got
and
in
fact
jubinec
asked
for
something
that
now
v
han
has
implemented.
Keep
the
the
scroll
bar
on
or
keep
the
sorry
keep
the
index
visible.
A
B
A
A
No,
no
and
and
in
fact,
part
of
the
one
of
one
of
tim's
comments,
so
what
vihan
did
was
looked
at
it
on
on
various
small
device
layouts
and
said:
oh
my
sakes,
it's
awful.
It
looks
bad
on
on
small
devices
already
right,
so
tim
showed
here.
Here's
how
it
looks
on
mobile
on
one
mobile
device
size
and
here's
the
see
where's,
the
other
example
or
let
me
get
tim's
here
we
go.
A
A
Yes,
yes,
it's
it's
just
that
the
it!
If
we
look
at
the
current
site
at
mobile
resolution,
so
I'm
going
to
go
ahead
and
bring
up
the
current
documentation
at
mobile
resolutions
with
a
mobile
layout.
So
what
vhan
taught
me
today
how
to
do
this?
I'm
now
going
to
see
if
I
can
actually
do
it.
The
way
vihan
taught
me
so
I
just
hit
f12
to
bring
up
google
chrome's
menu
and
then
this
little
icon
here
that
says
toggle
device
toolbar,
I
toggle
it
and
up
here
at
the
top,
I
can
pick
a
device.
A
So
I'm
going
to
see
how
it
looks
on
my
galaxy
s8
plus
phone
okay.
So
that's
how
it
looks,
and
now
I'm
going
to
click,
do
some
navigation
here.
Let's
do
documentation
jenkin,
which
one
should
let's
choose
a
big
one
like
system
administration,
okay,
there
it
is
with
the
first.
It
starts
with
the
table
of
contents,
not
the
content.
A
Okay,
that's
distracting,
and
then
it
starts
with
a
noble
another
table
of
contents,
the
navigation
table
of
contents
and
now,
okay,
now
I'm
here
and
I
could
pick
one
and
say
I
want
to
read
about
nginx,
aj,
proxy
or
nginx
proxying,
so
I
click
that
and
oh
oops,
and
I'm
also
running-
let's
put
it
to
no
throttling,
so
it
doesn't
show
spend
time
so
here
notice
notice,
the
hor,
the
massive
horizontal
scroll
bar
here.
A
A
So
this
is
this
is
before
the
prototype.
Now,
if
we
take
the
same
thing,
let's
go
find
that
exact
same
thing
here.
Is
it
managing
jenkins?
No,
it's
system,
administration,
nginx,
reverse
proxy,
and
now
we're
going
to
bring
up
and
by
the
way,
kristen
be
sure
you
tell
vian
how
grateful
I
am
for
his
willingness
to
teach
me
how
to
use
this.
This
device
toolbar
thing
in
chrome,.
C
It's
pretty
cool
like
to
be
able
to
see
the
different
phones
and
stuff,
but
yeah.
We
did
kind
of
talk
on
monday
when
we
were
tuesday
saying
that
it's
like
we
should
try
re-emphasizing
what
you
want
to
focus
on
the
like,
while
it's
good
to
have
phones,
we
want
to
make
sure
that
the
experience
on
the
desktop
is
probably
the
most
common
experience
for
people
using
our
documentation.
C
A
A
Yeah
and-
and
I
don't
know
what
that
means
right-
I
mean
I
don't
expect
anybody
to
look
at
look
at
our
documentation
on
a
nest.
Nest
is
a
is
a
google
networking
device
and
so
no
way
are
they
going
to
read
jenkins
documentation
on
a
nas
device,
but
it
hints
that
okay,
there,
there
are
plenty
of
things
we
can
improve
and
as
we
keep
working
on
it,
we'll
find
better
and
better
ways
to
do
things.
A
B
B
A
A
B
C
C
I
would
I
would
yeah
you
know
if
you're
like,
I
don't
know
if
you
have
a
if
it's
just
up,
I
don't
know
if
you're
using
it
as
a
second
screen.
Maybe-
and
that's
just
you
know-
you
have
it
over
there
you're
just
reading,
maybe,
but
I
was
like,
I
feel,
like
the.
I
think,
we're
okay
on
the
phone
thing.
Does
that
make.
C
A
B
A
All
right
so
anything
else
on
on
that
topic,
I
think
we've
seen
it.
I
did
put
down
that.
I
would
like
daniel
beck
involved
before
we
merge
and
if
he's
not
available,
I'm
okay
with
that,
we
intentionally
delay
the
merge
until
after
the
security
release
just
to
avoid
any
disruption
to
daniel
and
the
security
team.
C
All
right,
I
was
just
looking
back
at
the
docsig
channel
and
the
the
getter,
and
I
saw
that
jean-marc,
had
made
a
comment
about
the
pipeline.
Improve
a
plug-in
pull
request.
Is
that.
A
A
You
know
an
offer,
a
lot
of
things
that
are
repeated
every
time
coming
soon,
patients,
patients,
what
we
will
see
is
there's
a
thing
that
says:
how
do
you
create
a
branch?
There's
another
thing:
that's
how?
How
do
you
make
the
change
and
then
how
do
you
submit
a
pull
request
and,
and
those
things
are
the
same
largely
the
same
for
each
of
the
pages
and
and
his
point
is
well
taken.
A
But
then
the
create
a
pull
request
is
again
parameterized
and
only
happens
once
so
he's
going
to
see
if
he
can
find
a
way
to
do
this
better
so
that
we
don't
bore
readers
by
saying
this
is
how
you
create
a
pull
request.
The
other
observation
was
that
tim
jacom
and
zbinek,
and
a
few
other,
oh
and
alexander
brandis,
said
hey.
Why
are
we
using
command
line
git
and
telling
them
to
go
open
a
web
page?
A
Why
not
just
use
the
gh
command
and
have
them
create
a
pr
and
teach
them
the
easy
way
to
create
a
pull
request?
And
it's
a
valid
point.
I
love
gh.
I
love
the
command
line
interface
to
github,
it's
brilliant,
because
you
can
do
this
whole
mess
it.
Does
this
nice
console
based
prompt
you
through
it
process
that
lets
you
create
a
valid
pull
request
from
your
command
line.
A
And-
and
it's
a
valid
point-
it
just
means,
then
we
need
someplace
a
way
of
telling
people
you
must
have
gh,
and
I
I
truly
I
have
either
of
you
seen
gh
before
it's
really
an
amazing
amazing,
amazing
tool.
So
when
I
do
things
like
this
ghpr
list,
here's
the
list
of
pull
requests
ghpr
status,
here's
the
current
status
of
those
pull
requests.
A
Also
oops,
it
would
change
repo
sync,
it's
just
amazing
the
kinds
of
things
and
if
I,
if
I
do
a
pull
request
quest,
it
will
literally
prompt
me
through
the
whole
process.
So
bogus
is
going
to
be
the
name
of
my
branch
based
on
master.
A
A
A
A
A
B
A
B
A
B
B
B
A
B
A
A
A
We
want
to
take
a
look
at
and
try
to
close,
say
one
tonight
and
say:
hey
we're,
not
gonna
carry
this
one,
so
nothing
on
that
page
triggered
for
me
how
about.
A
B
A
A
B
A
A
Agree,
excellent
great!
Thank
you
all
right!
So,
okay,
if
we
go
on
to
other
topics,
yes
all
right,
so
the
the
lts
change
log
is
in
progress.
It
needs
daniel,
did
a
great
job
of
reviewing
it.
Kevin's
applied
the
the
majority
of
the
changes
requested
by
daniel.
They
were
really
good
observations
of
hey.
This
is
just
too
much
detail,
and
so
the
the
pull
request
is
looking
better,
but
I've
got
to
do
another
review
of
it
because
it's
well.
A
A
Fyi
we've
got
java
11
coming
up
june
28th.
So
one
week
after
the
lts
release,
we
will
switch
jenkins
core
to
only
build
with
java
11,
not
with
java
8..
A
A
Here
we
go.
Here's
a
plugin
notice
that
it
has
a
frame
another
frame
and
this
one.
So
the
java
11
look
and
feel
is
much
easier
to
navigate,
because
here
I
can
just
type
in
a
search
thing
like
file
path
or
scm,
and
it
shows
me
the
things
that
match
and
then
a
click
will
actually
take
me
there
now,
in
this
case
it's
currently
broken.
A
A
A
A
A
Yeah,
it's
gavin's
been
absolutely
wonderful.
He
he
found
a
way
to
preserve
the
map,
and
so
this
map
lets
me
zoom
in
and
see
where
people
have
submitted
these
stories
from
and
who
they
are.
Oh
wow,
yeah.
It's
it's
really
quite
a
it's
a
fun
thing.
Okay,
let's
see
if
I
can
find
the
place
where
I
visited
there,
it
is
okay.
I
visited
this
location
in
pittsburgh.
Pennsylvania!
A
A
So
so
the
site
is
growing
growing
nicely.
There
are
still
some
things
that
need
to
be
done
case.
Studies
existed
on
the
old
site,
but
aren't
on
the
new
one
yet,
and
there
are
some
some
pages
that
don't
redirect
as
expected,
but
they're
they're
flagged
on
jenkins
dot
io,
so
we
know
which
ones
they
are.
A
A
A
Named
jenkins
jenkins,
what
was
it
most?
Oh,
I
forget
the
title
it
was
contributor
award
top
contributor
or
some
such
thing
I'll
have
to
look
up
the
exact
phrasing
da
vada
fallonier.
A
A
And
then
there
was
one
other,
let's
see
who
was
the
other
one?
Oh
oleg
nanashev
cdf
top
documenter.
Yes,
that's
right,
yep
and
there
may
have
been
one
more.
Who
was
the
fourth,
the
other
cloud-based
person.
A
B
Other
quick
thing
to
add:
for
you:
just
for
the
back
cross,
have
you
heard
of
something
called
killer
coda.
B
Happened
bought
catacota
a
year
or
two
ago,
and
you
know
what
that
was,
and
it
was
very
cool,
too,
very
cool.
It's
working
out
so
well
for
o'reilly.
That
o'reilly
has
decided
that
it's
just
their
tool.
Oh
and
it's
not
available
for
general
use
anymore
at
all,
they're,
not
selling
any
service
for
it.
Popular
coda
is
an
open
source
version
that
if
you
have
catacota
code,
you
can
just
stuff
it
in
apparently,
and
it
just
works.
B
A
B
Say
that
they're
really
alpha
they're,
not
even
beta
state,
but
we
just
put
a
tutorial
in
it.
We
had
some
kid
in
india
who
wanted
to
try
and
do
it
and
it
is
magnificent.
It
worked
well.
The
people
were
great
to
deal
with,
but
it's
one
of
these
things
setting
up
captain
is
a
nightmare
and
we
have
this
tutorial
where
they
got
like
10
minutes.
It
was
really
a
lousy
tutorial
because
it
said
click
here
and
look.
This
is
what
you
get
now
click
here
and
you
get.
B
You
know,
there's
no
explanation
or
anything,
but
it
took
you
a
half
an
hour
of
setup
to
get
up
to
the
point
where
it
would
work,
and
I
mean
nobody
could
make
the
setup
work
and
with
this
now
it's
like
click
here
to
do
this
and
you
sit
there.
Some
of
it
takes
three
minutes
some
of
it's
instantaneous,
but
it's
one
of
those.
You
click
in
the
left
menu
and
it
happens
over
in
the
canvas
on
the
right.
You
just
see
the
screen.
B
It's
an
impressive
tool:
nice
people-
they
they
sell
some
subscription
things,
but
pretty
much
you
can
use
it
for
free
and
really
nice
for
a
little
tutorial
or
demo.
The
the
caveat
is
that
from
the
time
you
start
a
session.
You've
only
got
an
hour,
the
session
buyer
in
an
hour.
So
you
wouldn't
want
to
do
a
big
topic,
but
it
could
be
nice
for
a
little
topic.
A
Interesting
well
so,
on
that
on
that
theme,
we've
got
we've.
We
had
a
bug
report
that
came
in
on
the
jenkins,
tutorials
and,
and
it
motivated
descript,
discussing
an
idea
that
damien
de
portal
had
of
consider
replacing
tutorials
are
overly
complicated,
tutorials
right
now,
with
docker,
compose
and
and
katakota
is
an
even
better
solution
than
docker
compose
right.
Docker
compose
has
the
benefit
that
it's
fully
open
source
and
but
you
you
have
to
host
it
yourself,
but
it
gives
us
something,
and
this
could
be
kind
of
got
a
you
say.
B
B
B
Level-
and
I
think
with
that
you
get
metrics
right
now.
We
have
no
idea
how
many
people
are
going
out
and
using
this,
but
right
yeah,
but
I'm
seeing
a
general
industry
we've
got
the
a
tutorial
should
be
you
know.
Maybe
I
have
to
do
six
tutorials
to
get
the
whole
thing,
but
don't
give
me
an
eight-hour
tutorial
right,
it's
not
your
instructions
for
how
you
get
started.
This
is
how
to
introduce
you
to
stuff
and
then
there's
someplace
else.
That
says
you
have
to
do
this
and
this
and
noticing
boy,
it's
just.